WORLD’S FASTEST NATURALLY ASPIRATED V8 RS5 w/RACE HEADERS

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  • @PantherBlackAudiRS
    @PantherBlackAudiRS  3 года назад +18

    WORLD’S FIRST FULL JHM 2.75” RS5 HEADER & EXHAUST SYSTEM.
    JHM Race Headers for B8 RS5 Information:
    Price = $899 USD + GST
    OEM Manifold w/Custom Fabrication & Tig Welds (High Quality & Bespoke)
    14.5lb 'catted' OEM header vs 9.5lb 'Decatted' JHM Header (10lbs weight savings)
    Stainless Cone
    Mandrel Bent Pipe
    2.75" Flange pairing to 2.75" downpipe
    Contact sales@jhmotorsports.com to order
    Car MODS:
    JHM Stage 2 ECU Software: 93 Octane Map: 500+ horsepower
    JHM DSG TCU Tune + Software (8800rpm redline, 6000rpm launch)
    JHM 2.75" Catback Exhaust
    JHM 2.75” Non-Resonated Downpipes
    JMH S-Series Lowering Springs
    JHM RS5 Race Headers
    JHM Lightweight Flywheel
    JHM Lightweight Crank Pulley
    ECS Tuning Transmission Billet
    RMR High Flow Crash Bar
    Setrab Transmission & DSG Cooler
    Fast FC04 Lightweight 20" Wheels (-20lbs unsprung weight)
    Rear seat rests removed (-100lbs)
    Carbon Clean + new injectors + new seals + new plugs
    Ceramic Pro 9H Coating

    • @rob1621
      @rob1621 3 года назад +3

      Pretty much the ideal set-up right here. Things gotta be a beast. I dont even want to tally up the cost tho 😅

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  3 года назад +3

      @@rob1621 It definitely wasn't cheap ... but it's very unique :)

    • @rob1621
      @rob1621 3 года назад

      @@PantherBlackAudiRS would you mind sharing how much you paid to have headers installed?

    • @Goczku
      @Goczku 3 года назад

      @@PantherBlackAudiRS how much you paid for it?

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  3 года назад +1

      @@Goczku Around $3000CAD for headers and flywheel

  • @rorod3123
    @rorod3123 3 года назад +27

    Now that’s a real shop with the proper equipment 👍🏽

  • @PantherBlackAudiRS
    @PantherBlackAudiRS  3 года назад +13

    Edit - just reflashed to the more powerful tune. WOW. Just drove it. The car is INCREDIBLY fast ... hard to describe but feels identical to a V10 R8 NOW (feels like another 30hp ontop of the 45, plus another 30lb of torque). There is ZERO-drone, sounds like a V10. The extra flow you can feel when pushing the throttle and the downshifts are downright scary with the LWFW. More videos coming!! I am MORE than impressed. Even the AUDI mechanics mentioned that they're not usually impressed unless it's TT 4.0, but this was something else ... and the sound.... my word.

    • @davidcastillo5623
      @davidcastillo5623 3 года назад

      I can't wait till you dyno it I need to see the numbers on this thing! Sounds amazing!

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  3 года назад

      @@davidcastillo5623 just reflashed ECU to catless and no SAI. Mother of pearl. Insane.

    • @davidcastillo5623
      @davidcastillo5623 3 года назад +1

      @@PantherBlackAudiRS what is your instagram I need to see more of this beauty lol

    • @sakimano
      @sakimano 3 года назад

      @@davidcastillo5623 I'd rather see him do some acceleration testing wouldn't you?

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  3 года назад

      @@sakimano What were you thinking?

  • @DaytonaGrey-RS5
    @DaytonaGrey-RS5 2 года назад +1

    I have had a 2015 RS5 for over a month now and have been happy with the sport exhaust; but this is making me drool for something of this nature. Impressive!

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  2 года назад

      Congrats, what Color?

    • @DaytonaGrey-RS5
      @DaytonaGrey-RS5 2 года назад

      @@PantherBlackAudiRS Thank you. Daytona Grey Pearl with the Titanium trim and the 20 inch 5 arm wheels. I definitely will be making upgrade(s) to this car through JHM. Happy New Year!

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  2 года назад

      @@DaytonaGrey-RS5 Awesome you can't go wrong! Happy New Year!

  • @joeblack007
    @joeblack007 Месяц назад

    And we used to complain about working on the 12v VR6 in the old Corrado and MK3s. I wish those days were back! 😅

  • @eastoakland-S65feen
    @eastoakland-S65feen 3 года назад +4

    Hell yea congrats man. Ready for the fly bys at high rpm with valves open

  • @iWorstLuck502
    @iWorstLuck502 3 года назад +5

    Nice! JHM should’ve done this a longggg time ago

    • @eastoakland-S65feen
      @eastoakland-S65feen 3 года назад +1

      Well now theyr about to get way more wrk because of these bad boys

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  3 года назад

      @@eastoakland-S65feen last I heard they are crazy busy. They’ve opened up now into Europe and sold 30+ RS5 tunes!

  • @dan2fast4you21
    @dan2fast4you21 3 года назад +4

    Great job, really you have been the first at making such content on this. This is the first serious documentation on this kind of job, keep us posted, I’m sure that me and many other keen owners will be following you’re steps soon. As we are all eager to get this engine decatted.

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  3 года назад +1

      Thank you for the support! I couldn’t find much information so I want to share as much as possible!

    • @dan2fast4you21
      @dan2fast4you21 3 года назад

      @@PantherBlackAudiRS I was in you’re same shoes. Nevertheless the only viable option I saw as Emailing Kline exhausts I was told they don’t make the complete headers anymore, was to do exactly what you did, ie removing the actual cat and splicing it with a free flowing tube, possibly all the way down to the try bolt connector like you did. anyway, as you have installed it for some time, do you mind telling me how is the:
      a) noise when cruising around with the valves closed? Is it ok, and compatible to the car before with the valves open?
      b) Dose the car smell, many people on forums advised me not to do this as they said the car would be smelly and rough, losing its German refinement.
      Hope to hear back from you, as I’m planning on doing the same. 😀

  • @maxick
    @maxick 3 года назад +1

    subscribed, liked, such a beauty, and that sound is out of this world, and i drove rs5 couple months, just wow!!!!

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  3 года назад +1

      35-45 wheel horsepower going to stage 2 with exhaust. LWFW and LWCP free up about 20hp, and the headers with the new tune add another 20-30. I’d say she’s sitting right around 530 now. It’s faster than a stock V10 R8, sound is incredible, truly unique.

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  3 года назад

      Thanks!

  • @shanekever6384
    @shanekever6384 3 года назад +1

    I neeeed to hear it with the valves open and out on the road..

  • @nathancoulter6786
    @nathancoulter6786 Год назад +1

    I've pretty much watched all your videos of the rs5. Fallen in love with it, and the sounds it makes quickly lol. On a performance note, with all the upgrades you've done to it, how much faster is it? Do you have any dragy data, or compare it to other vehicles you've raced in it?

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  Год назад +3

      Hey Nathan! Thanks for watching! There was hardly any performance mods documented on RUclips, thus why I decided to upload. It’s a very special car, and the sound with the high revving V8 and DUAL clutch combo is a mouth watering experience to drive. Always leaves you wanting more.
      Re: Performance. I ran 13.5 at our local track, stock. I ran 13.1/12.9 with the exhaust. With Stage 2 tune + TCU tune I ran 12.3.
      Since going to the flywheel and headers, this has been the largest difference, not just in performance, but sound, and consistent power delivery. The removal of headers and new tune dropped my oil temps from 120-135 to 95-105, resulting in more performance, all the time.
      I’m at high elevation, however, with the mods I’ve done 3.5x 0-60 and 1/4 miles under 11. I’ve been busy, had a son, so not as much time to drive it, and I’m confident the project is finished now.
      A sub 3.5 0-60 + sub 11sec quarter mile + the sound + the driver feedback and connected feeling with the dual lurch and flywheel, it’s 100% a drivers car, that happens to still be pretty dang fast.
      Overall, I’ve dropped almost 1.5seconds on the quarter mile (much of this due to proper cooling and transmission improvements) and almost a second on the 0-60. Bro science, but butt dyno says probably a 50-60wheel hp gain. Car is still sensitive to hot temps and altitude, but on a crisp fall evening, she roars!

  • @stephenp.harris5050
    @stephenp.harris5050 3 года назад +1

    A lot of disassembling just to put headers on. What's the cost of installation?

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  3 года назад

      Audi did it for 30 hours including the LWFW, LWCP and headers. Actually a really good price, as JHM estimated about 22 hrs for the flywheel alone.

    • @Demoaccount-i2k
      @Demoaccount-i2k 3 года назад

      @@PantherBlackAudiRS ok im sticking with dp, x-pipes +stage2 map
      Other than that its too much cost, unless keeping car forever

  • @miked2560
    @miked2560 3 года назад +1

    Nice video and looking forward to more! Is it required to drop the engine to install these or you were just having some other work done as well?

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  3 года назад

      Required to do engine drop for the JHM Headers. Pulley and crank seal can be done from the service position, flywheel can be done from partially dropping the transmission.

  • @imnotgogoing332
    @imnotgogoing332 Год назад

    Hi love the car
    Quick question
    Do you have to drop the engine in order to install the Jhm headers or you just doing something else

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  Год назад

      Thanks for watching! Yes, unfortunately, the JHM headers required the engine to be dropped.

    • @imnotgogoing332
      @imnotgogoing332 Год назад

      @@PantherBlackAudiRS do you still remember how much it cost?

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  Год назад

      @@imnotgogoing332 30hrs labour

  • @hoost3056
    @hoost3056 3 года назад

    Oh the pain$$$$$$$$$!!!
    This is definitely a " while we're in there " type of job.

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  3 года назад +1

      It sure was! While engine was out (since I'll be keeping it for a long time) I had them check the motor mounts, front/rear seal (front was sweating, so replaced it) among other items. Turns out both cats were falling apart and likely ready to fail at any-time. Also did the flywheel, crank pulley, and all fluids at the same time (DSG ATF/MTF, coolant, diff, oil).

    • @draggy6544
      @draggy6544 8 месяцев назад

      @@PantherBlackAudiRSwhat milage was the car at when this vid was filmed?

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  8 месяцев назад

      @@draggy6544 50,000kms roughly

    • @draggy6544
      @draggy6544 8 месяцев назад

      @@PantherBlackAudiRS ill be honest my guy thats not what i wanted to hear. Was there any residue on the exhaust tips? Or any other symptoms?

  • @BradMarchandtheSlewFooter
    @BradMarchandtheSlewFooter 3 года назад

    Sounds nice! What are the power improvements?

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  3 года назад +3

      Stage 1: 25hp
      Stage 2: another 20hp
      Headers: another 20hp + new tune
      Flywheel and Pulley: likely freeing up 10-15hp
      All told it seems to be about an additional 50+ wheel horsepower (or 75-80hp at the crank) and 60lb ft torque.

  • @khalifaskho4223
    @khalifaskho4223 7 месяцев назад

    Are the 4.2 RS5 shares the same engine as D4 A8 4.2?

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  7 месяцев назад

      No, very different based on the CFSA platform, basically a V10 R8 engine, but missing 2 cylinders. Sound is quite unique in these.

    • @khalifaskho4223
      @khalifaskho4223 7 месяцев назад

      @@PantherBlackAudiRS So is there any chance to tune up the A8 4.2 FSI D4 perfomace ?

  • @ZoneTwelveOnline
    @ZoneTwelveOnline Год назад

    So what sort of acceleration times do you get from the "WORLD’S FASTEST NATURALLY ASPIRATED V8 RS5" ?

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  Год назад

      0-60 in 3.4x seconds and 11.7x in 1/4 trapping 114-117mph, thanks for watching!

    • @ZoneTwelveOnline
      @ZoneTwelveOnline Год назад

      @@PantherBlackAudiRS Thanks for the reply

  • @RS5Fanatic
    @RS5Fanatic 3 года назад +1

    Subscribed. I'm buying earmuffs for the little one. Just saying. But great job, look forward to your continued reports on this setup and more videos!

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  3 года назад

      Thanks! Surprisingly only 30% louder IMO. No rasp whatsoever.

  • @zero-by6ib
    @zero-by6ib 10 месяцев назад

    What model year is this car

  • @scuzzyfpv
    @scuzzyfpv 3 года назад +1

    such a tease!

  • @hostrider28
    @hostrider28 Год назад

    У нас в России на А5 купэ, ставят 4.0 TFSI. Пушка, гонка. Еще 3.0 компрессор, меняют шкивы и прошивают.

  • @MK6CHRIS
    @MK6CHRIS 3 года назад

    Can't wait for more POV drives . I found a MANUAL TWIN TURBO RS5 on instagram.... That sounds like a dream car for me. However, I heard the manual swap for the RS5 is a pain in the ass. I can't wait to hear this thing RIP. Dont worry I am subbed

  • @thiagof9775
    @thiagof9775 Год назад

    how much power?

  • @sajjadhaider1111
    @sajjadhaider1111 5 месяцев назад

    Dude it sounds like lambo

  • @stanmihaylov693
    @stanmihaylov693 3 года назад

    Sounds good is it really loud or is it manageable

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  3 года назад

      Very little drone, same drone in 1800-2000 as before. ZERO RASP. Very unique sound, sounds like a V10 to me.

    • @stanmihaylov693
      @stanmihaylov693 3 года назад

      @@PantherBlackAudiRS nice bro glad you are enjoying it!

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  3 года назад

      @@stanmihaylov693 car is incredibly fast. Wow. Tough to know if it’s the flywheel or headers! Those downshifts are insane.

    • @stanmihaylov693
      @stanmihaylov693 3 года назад

      @@PantherBlackAudiRS it’s both flywheel makes it more intense and the louder sounds also make it more intense. The car is insanely fast I love driving it. I can’t imagine with headers

  • @christopherclaure6689
    @christopherclaure6689 3 года назад

    Can you make some for the b8 S5 4.2L already?

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  3 года назад

      I believe JHM makes catless TEST pipes for the S5: jhmotorsports.com/exhaust-race-pipes-version-2-stainless-steel-2-5-jhm-for-b8-s5-4-2l-fsi-32v.html

  • @oakkblackbird
    @oakkblackbird Год назад +1

    What made this car the "Fastest" N/A RS5?🤔

  • @LGS_Inc
    @LGS_Inc 3 года назад

    I have been looking for a header to pair with the Armytrix exhaust for my RS5, but that would sounds nice. Any different from that upgraded pulley ?

  • @olik9388
    @olik9388 3 года назад

    Very nice!!!! Are there any plans for JHM to produce these as an off the shelf item? I'm in Australia and the time to return the headers would mean my car is off the road for way too long.

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  3 года назад

      I don’t believe so. The OEM manifolds are hard to find.

    • @olik9388
      @olik9388 3 года назад

      @@PantherBlackAudiRS I was leaning more towards a full fabrication. They don’t have to be made of Inconel, and even though it would be a bit more expensive, they could do a changeover with stock headers once a customer has put the custom ones up in and have both types with higher and lower price points on the market. The biggest cost for me would be time. I’m not a patient person 😂😂. If there was simply replace option available I wouldn’t hesitate.

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  3 года назад

      @@olik9388 I would contact JHM. Initially; there wasn’t much interest, and the price of 899 was to offset the cost of install. They have the fabrication schematics now from my set, if the price was right they might do it, or, if more people were interested in off the shelf headers they may start doing it.
      Sales@jhmotorsports.com - tell them PantherRS5 sent you!

    • @olik9388
      @olik9388 3 года назад

      @@PantherBlackAudiRS Cheers! I'll get in touch with them direct.

  • @autolife4180
    @autolife4180 Год назад

    There's a nice view of a 20k exhaust job

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  Год назад

      lol right?

    • @autolife4180
      @autolife4180 Год назад

      @@PantherBlackAudiRS I Fucking love those B8.5 RS5's but when I found out that 80% of the services under the hood require an engine out service to the tune of about 20k I sold my 40k mile example and used a small portion of that money to buy a 2013 E63 AMG and a 2012 C63. Sorry but Audi's are mind boggling good but insanely expensive to keep that way.

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  Год назад

      @@autolife4180 yes I’ve since sold it and now have a 2017 RS7. Not quite the soul of the 9000rpm, but much cheaper for maintenance…. Having said that…. It’s still
      An Audi.

    • @Sam-vk3tz
      @Sam-vk3tz Год назад

      @@PantherBlackAudiRSNo way can’t believe you sold up I currently have an RS5 and want to go down the Flywheel and Pulley route…This something that you would strongly recommend? Hearts only been set after seeing how well it responds to these mods from your clips as their is very limited information on the web otherwise!

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  Год назад

      @@Sam-vk3tz yes the LWFW from JHM is amazing on this car. It also now has been anodized and a reinforced Center section.
      The RS7 is amazing, but I still preferred my RS5, even though it was quite a bit slower. More of a drivers car, having said that, an RS7 with JHM’s tune and exhaust would probably transform this car as well. Redline is 6800 and I miss that 8800

  • @AndreaRossi-wm3no
    @AndreaRossi-wm3no Год назад

    100-200 time ?

  • @kinggston5098
    @kinggston5098 3 года назад

    where is the turbo ???

  • @therealmixfamily
    @therealmixfamily 3 года назад

    Trust me as a Audi RS5 owner, the car ain’t nothing to play with

  • @Karmen-uc4ru
    @Karmen-uc4ru Год назад

    What year is this car? I can't see didley without my specks. Squinting ain't working anymore. Lol

  • @Destani-b4k
    @Destani-b4k Год назад

    🎉

  • @RICHIE_RICH89
    @RICHIE_RICH89 2 года назад

    Dam that sounds sick as shit

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  2 года назад

      It sure does!! ruclips.net/video/oVVe7leDGqM/видео.html

  • @jaimevazquez6577
    @jaimevazquez6577 3 года назад

    All that just for headers?! GA damn 😳

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  3 года назад

      I know right… but also installed a lightweight flywheel, lightweight crank pulley, new tune, and new fluids for everything. It’s one of a kind now and sounds incredible.

    • @jaimevazquez6577
      @jaimevazquez6577 3 года назад

      What kind of power did you end up pushing once everything was said and done?
      I'm debating between this year RS5 and the 2010 Shelby.

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  3 года назад

      @@jaimevazquez6577 about 520, but more when it’s cold. RS5 tune dials up in cold weather, but that 8800rpm redline can’t be beat! Car is a sleeper.

    • @jaimevazquez6577
      @jaimevazquez6577 3 года назад

      Awesome 😎👍
      Thanks for replying bro

  • @sakimano
    @sakimano 2 года назад

    usually 'world's fastest' titles come with timeslips. Got any?

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  2 года назад

      Had a baby ❤️ , set a record 60 foot time already, it will come when I have time, thanks for watching Saki!

    • @strammerdetlef
      @strammerdetlef Год назад

      ofc not since this engine is a lame duck lol

  • @deterrencedispensed7939
    @deterrencedispensed7939 2 года назад

    I need the song in the beginning so bad please

  • @at5mics
    @at5mics 2 года назад

    Wait, someone let me know if I'm missing something. Judging from the location of the starter, if it goes out, how do you get to it?!?🤔🤔🤔
    I'm without a doubt stepping up from my A5 to one of these within the next 12 months. I need answers...🤣🤣🤣

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  2 года назад

      Good catch. And you’re right… it’s an engine out job for a new starter 🤞
      You won’t regret it, amazing car!

  • @SpyderPanda1
    @SpyderPanda1 Год назад +1

    not the world fastest without providing times lmao

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  Год назад

      I suppose I could fake Dragy slips like some people and post sped up footage 😎
      Haven’t had time to run any 1/4’s but I did set a record 60 foot.

    • @SpyderPanda1
      @SpyderPanda1 Год назад

      @@PantherBlackAudiRS how about 1/8? i done 7.6 on dragy

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  Год назад

      @@SpyderPanda1 JHM already beat that time 2 years ago. Check their latest video.
      Though. I’m curious to see what you run with the Jackal stage 2 and TCU. Sounds promising.

    • @SpyderPanda1
      @SpyderPanda1 Год назад

      @@PantherBlackAudiRS I’m currently running beta testing for the Stage 2 TCU for Jackal Motorsport, the 7.6 was the stock TCU. The launch was with the interior stuff and everything. Nothing was removed.

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  Год назад +1

      ​@@SpyderPanda1 Keep me posted, the JACKAL tune sounds promising and you might beat it. What supporting hardware (if any) and exhaust are you running?
      JHM still has the record, they ran 7.53 in the 1/8 (ecu and tcu) and it's uploaded on Dragy: ruclips.net/video/4iRsj5LZZzI/видео.html

  • @El_Jefe_S3
    @El_Jefe_S3 2 года назад

    Honestly if you had just broke the cats out it would’ve been the exact same outcome with less effort

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  2 года назад

      Hmmm, not really. The collector was improved, the bends were smoothed out. I’m also not sure how you’d punch the catalytic converters out with the manifolds still installed.

  • @craftymonkeyjunk
    @craftymonkeyjunk 10 месяцев назад

    World's fastest? But no 1/4 mile slip, no 60--130 time, and no dyno sheet. So I am to assume that because this CROSS PLANE v8 has equal length headers, bolt ons, and a tune, it now makes 70 more HP? At least you're optimistic.

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  10 месяцев назад

      Set a world record 60ft time in the snow, then had a baby, and needed a 4 door and it was sold and then bought an RS7. The record is on Dragy, this was also the first RS5 in the world with all these mods, there are quite a few now with these mods, that may have surpassed these times, including JHM.
      Also, not sure how a lightweight flywheel is a bolt on… thank you for watching however!

  • @christopherclaure6689
    @christopherclaure6689 3 года назад

    I’ll subscribe if you make S5 headers I’ll be the test dummy 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @monstrosityguy5375
    @monstrosityguy5375 2 года назад

    How you gonna rev it with the valves closed you bum

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  2 года назад

      💀

    • @monstrosityguy5375
      @monstrosityguy5375 2 года назад

      @@PantherBlackAudiRS loved the process and then you we’re like wanna hear it? Just kidding

    • @PantherBlackAudiRS
      @PantherBlackAudiRS  2 года назад

      @@monstrosityguy5375 lol ya I thought about that after I edited it. Anti climactic :p
      Goal was to post more videos right after with valves open, as a teaser.