I love the look of these wedges they look great and the sole design really can let you play any shot desired. I purchased raw wedges MG3 last year and what I have kind of seen with raw compared to a finished plated wedge I played previously the rtx4 is initially on a new wedges the raw really spun a ton out of the gate (as expected). However, I have noticed the raw face has worn quicker for me than I thought. I used the GC3 on the course and I was getting 5500-6000 rpm on a 30 yard pitch initially, since then spin has dropped to about 4800-5000. You can just see the ball doesn't have that same grab on the first bounce. I have played maybe 40 rounds with them and I don't practice out of bunkers. I feel like the raw face has become a bit of a tool where manufactures can have people replacing the wedges more frequently.
Went for a driver fitting and they had me warm up with the wedges they had. I’m pretty sure they were the hi toe wedges and highly enjoyed them. Might have to pick them when I replace my SM9 wedges
I do like how you will bring these on course. I recently bought wedges based on indoor use and loved them. Got them into the rough and bunkers during a round and they were absolute stinkers.
Still love my original 58 hi toe with the "eye 2" sole and an original 54 Hi toe...one thing I should mention however, is I needed to adjust these a couple degrees more upright than most other wedges I've used. Perhaps because of the extra toe weight causing excess droop with my swing? Not sure, but I have them fit now and love them!
I just received my 50° Hi-Toe gap wedge a few days ago and went out and played nine holes with it in my bag. Without ever having hit this wedge before I had an opportunity to hit it twice. Once from about 15 yds. to the flag - I lobbed it just to the edge of the green and rolled it to within two feet, hmmm. Next opportunity I had the ball just off the fringe with about thirty feet to the hole - kind of a gnarly lie in thick grass - chipped it low and let it run. Hit the flagstick and almost went in, left me a tap in. Unbelievable! Call it luck, call it enthusiasm. I'll just say I can't wait to go out again with this wedge.
@5:51 - I think you getting fractionally more spin from the high toe due to the spin loft being closer to 45* (48.7*-3.0* =45.7*). Whereas the the MG3 (51.6*-2.6*=49.3*). From what I heard you get the most spin from a spin loft of around 45*.
so the new hi-toe doesn't come in an ATV grind, what a bummer. Also, they got rid of the high loft options. Gen 1 had 64 avaliable, and gen 2 had 62, which you could bend to 64. this one only comes in 60, come on Taylormade give us a 64 degree in ATV grind!!!
I don't like that high toe look, remember when Ping came out with the Eye 2 wedge - UGH. BUT I'm intrigued by the 4-way camber/ATV sole grind. I loved the way ATVs reacted with turf, sand, rough, etc. If the high toe helps with flighting down for a more penetrating trajectory with longer swings I could take a gander. One question - why hasn't anyone put full face grooves on a normal wedge?
I hate the trend of the raw face and finished everywhere else. I understand maybe having it as an option, but why can't I get it with the whole thing finished, or whole thing raw. This in-between option is just ugly.
I recall seeing my first Ping Eye while I was in college. Never really considered the Karsten’s but a college buddy got the Eye Summer of 79. I had always played MacGregor blades or Wilson’s, the Eye was so strange in sound and aesthetics. Larger, thick top line, and the flared fat toe. Swung them a couple times on range, handed ‘em back to my buddy and kinda chuckled. To this day, the visual aspects alone of the heavy, thick toe iron or wedge is non-starter. These could be the greatest wedges ever, I just wouldn’t have the confidence once I see them at address. It should be said I also only consider forged wedges, as I play Miura 501’s, have always played forged irons. I like the same consistent sound and feel in my irons and wedges. Even Vokey’s are a bit too clicky at impact. My wedges are a combo of Miura, Bettinardi and Mizuno. I do wish their were more forged wedge options but I’ve found enough loft & bounce options among the few forged options available
It’s more about the full face grooves versus having a higher toe. When you open up the face to hit a flop shot it tends to come off the toe. I’ve never played these wedges before but I’m thinking of replacing my 60 for one of these specifically for that reason.
Absolutely hate clubs that rust, even if by design and so does everyone I play with or ever asked. I met one player who likes the rusting faces, yes, ONE!
Two men trying hard to create some kind of story as to how these clubs might be different while staring at small amount of data produced by one imperfect human. Science.
I love having full toe wedges, they help so much around the green and have saved me big time.
I love the look of these wedges they look great and the sole design really can let you play any shot desired. I purchased raw wedges MG3 last year and what I have kind of seen with raw compared to a finished plated wedge I played previously the rtx4 is initially on a new wedges the raw really spun a ton out of the gate (as expected). However, I have noticed the raw face has worn quicker for me than I thought. I used the GC3 on the course and I was getting 5500-6000 rpm on a 30 yard pitch initially, since then spin has dropped to about 4800-5000. You can just see the ball doesn't have that same grab on the first bounce. I have played maybe 40 rounds with them and I don't practice out of bunkers. I feel like the raw face has become a bit of a tool where manufactures can have people replacing the wedges more frequently.
Volume on the intro was spot on this video. Thanks for tweaking it!
YES.. MIKEY!
Would love a video of comparing the 58.07 hi toe to the 58.08 M vokey! Currently can’t decide between the two!
Love having Ian and Mike back together - best combo of insight and interest on the channel. More of this dynamic duo please.
#moremikey
Best high-toe design to my eyes. I’m ordering one.
I love the look of those wedges
Went for a driver fitting and they had me warm up with the wedges they had. I’m pretty sure they were the hi toe wedges and highly enjoyed them. Might have to pick them when I replace my SM9 wedges
I do like how you will bring these on course. I recently bought wedges based on indoor use and loved them. Got them into the rough and bunkers during a round and they were absolute stinkers.
Mike has gotten a lot more consistent over the last year. Distance was spot on. Of course it's edited but still good swings there.
Still love my original 58 hi toe with the "eye 2" sole and an original 54 Hi toe...one thing I should mention however, is I needed to adjust these a couple degrees more upright than most other wedges I've used. Perhaps because of the extra toe weight causing excess droop with my swing? Not sure, but I have them fit now and love them!
been a vokey wedge guy for 15 years. tried the high toes recently and ended up putting them in my bag. huge upside for my game.
I just received my 50° Hi-Toe gap wedge a few days ago and went out and played nine holes with it in my bag. Without ever having hit this wedge before I had an opportunity to hit it twice. Once from about 15 yds. to the flag - I lobbed it just to the edge of the green and rolled it to within two feet, hmmm. Next opportunity I had the ball just off the fringe with about thirty feet to the hole - kind of a gnarly lie in thick grass - chipped it low and let it run. Hit the flagstick and almost went in, left me a tap in. Unbelievable! Call it luck, call it enthusiasm. I'll just say I can't wait to go out again with this wedge.
Even Mikey has got the new copper finish🤣
That’s some funny stuff right there.
Sun screen, Mikey! Sun screen!
I Thought it was spray tan.
@5:51 - I think you getting fractionally more spin from the high toe due to the spin loft being closer to 45* (48.7*-3.0* =45.7*). Whereas the the MG3 (51.6*-2.6*=49.3*). From what I heard you get the most spin from a spin loft of around 45*.
Mikey is back 😍
Have you guys measured the actual loft of each wedge？ Is it possible the high toe just arrive as lower lofted？
Great video guys. Evolution, not a revolution (though they do seem to produce a whole buncha revolutions...but I digress...). Loved this video.
Is there any reason for different stock shafts for wedge lines, like Kbs for high toe?
If they bring out this finish on an iron set I am there!
Taylormade had a limited edition of p790s made in this finish.
the hitoe 60 degree Bigfoot was a game changer for me.
Off topic question, but is a 1990's model driver still legal today for professional tournament play?
Most of them are.
@@clubchampionmedia Thanks
Great to see Mike throwing darts with the wedges. What’s his current set up?
How do you know when it’s the lie angle vs just blocking it when you (me) push it right?
what happened with the ATV sole?
Tour staff overwhelmingly preferred the 4-way camber sole
so the new hi-toe doesn't come in an ATV grind, what a bummer. Also, they got rid of the high loft options. Gen 1 had 64 avaliable, and gen 2 had 62, which you could bend to 64. this one only comes in 60, come on Taylormade give us a 64 degree in ATV grind!!!
Can you do new hi toe vs TW MG3?
Nice review, surprised they don’t offer 50 degrees especially given the stronger lofts of most of their iron sets
They offer a 50.09
I don't like that high toe look, remember when Ping came out with the Eye 2 wedge - UGH. BUT I'm intrigued by the 4-way camber/ATV sole grind. I loved the way ATVs reacted with turf, sand, rough, etc. If the high toe helps with flighting down for a more penetrating trajectory with longer swings I could take a gander.
One question - why hasn't anyone put full face grooves on a normal wedge?
Thats a great question! How come no manufacturer made a standard head that has grooves to the top
Personally I don’t like raw wedges. I prefer them to look nice for as long as possible
Had to find an old one to get the 64 degree 😢
Bring me a higher toe - steve winwood (paraphrased).
😂😂😂🙌🏾
How long do y’all think the ball stays on the face?
I hate the trend of the raw face and finished everywhere else. I understand maybe having it as an option, but why can't I get it with the whole thing finished, or whole thing raw. This in-between option is just ugly.
I recall seeing my first Ping Eye while I was in college. Never really considered the Karsten’s but a college buddy got the Eye Summer of 79. I had always played MacGregor blades or Wilson’s, the Eye was so strange in sound and aesthetics. Larger, thick top line, and the flared fat toe. Swung them a couple times on range, handed ‘em back to my buddy and kinda chuckled. To this day, the visual aspects alone of the heavy, thick toe iron or wedge is non-starter. These could be the greatest wedges ever, I just wouldn’t have the confidence once I see them at address.
It should be said I also only consider forged wedges, as I play Miura 501’s, have always played forged irons. I like the same consistent sound and feel in my irons and wedges. Even Vokey’s are a bit too clicky at impact. My wedges are a combo of Miura, Bettinardi and Mizuno. I do wish their were more forged wedge options but I’ve found enough loft & bounce options among the few forged options available
Never in my life have I thought "if only this wedge had a higher toe".
😂😂😂😂🙌🏾
Apparently you don't hit the ball in the horrible spots I do!
It’s more about the full face grooves versus having a higher toe. When you open up the face to hit a flop shot it tends to come off the toe. I’ve never played these wedges before but I’m thinking of replacing my 60 for one of these specifically for that reason.
@@Husker_ exactly!
No more 64?
Absolutely hate clubs that rust, even if by design and so does everyone I play with or ever asked. I met one player who likes the rusting faces, yes, ONE!
All copies of the best club ever, Ping Eye 2 SW.
Two men trying hard to create some kind of story as to how these clubs might be different while staring at small amount of data produced by one imperfect human. Science.
Mikey is such a dud lol. His script consists of "k" and "yeah"
Gosh, they're so ugly. Hopefully they play well on course!