Halo 2 - Mystery Of The Glitched AI and Secret Elites (REVISITED & SOLVED)
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- Опубликовано: 2 мар 2017
- On the mission Quarantine Zone, there was always a weird glitch that would sometimes occur where your elite allies would simply do nothing. Well the mystery behind that has finally been solved and it's linked to a bunch of secret elites that spawn later in the mission. Enjoy!
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In the developer commentary of Halo 2, they mentioned that it was extremely hard to get the AI to work on a moving platform.
didyouhear111 yeah wasn't that one of the reasons they had to read build the engine
didyouhear111 yes because the nav mesh was static.
@Person.so does that mean all those Flood have their character models linked with other ones to? Like these Friendly Elites?
@Person. (Old comment, I know...) - Unless you also count The Oracle's giant moving platform.
The weaponless elite minor was most likely the phantom pilot.
You might be right, since you only see the special operations Elites with the Arbiter.
Mario well actually if the spec ops elites pretty much all die in the beginning. it's possible to get elite minors majors or an ultra... unless thunderstorm is on then all those elites then are ultras..
Elite minor with elite major helmet
@@S113Productions I swear I remember seeing an elite minor in one of the pre-uprising arbiter levels.
Speedrunners have found that games like halo use a wierd mission script where everything happens in order, and if you break out of that order, things won't happen and you'll softlock the game, or in most cases enemies won't bother attacking you, making it easier to just idle (hence why they don't attack when you glitch yourself into the elevator, they can't see you thus they have nothing to do in their 'order' of things to do)
In this mission, the elites are meant to spawn before you enter the next part of the mission so their AI has time to load during the cutscene, but if you're too fast, the AI doesn't have time to prepare and essentially softlocks because the order was broken.
This resets with every level because the game treats each level as a different instance.
Guess thats why they're not moving in my game. Three times I just speed through the first half and then I can't do the platform part because they dont move!
Big brain
I figured this out in 2004, so here are the answers to your Questions:
The secret Elites are just all the surviving friendly AI you meet in this level. Usually in Halo 2 when loading parts of a level friendly AI are despawned if not in range of the player like on Cairo Station for example. Quarantine Zone doesn't despawn the AI, but moves them. Sometimes your Elites will disappear if you go ahead of them too fast, but instead if despawningg them they are placed somewhere outside the level but marked alive. Most of the time you can find them however right back where they lost track if you.
There are 3 points you get new Elites, the beginning, right outside the "warehouse" where you find your first set of flood controlled wraiths and when Half jaw is deployed. Each time the phantom spawns to drop off troops in game (excluding the cutscene phantom) there is technically an AI driving it. Those are the two unarmed Elites. Sometimes certain vehicles in Halo 2 have unseen "pilots".
The game simply brings all friendly AI to your point at the end.
Strangely enough, when playing quarantine zone, (on any difficulty I think) and when on the gondola thing heading into the library, there is glass that allows you to see down to the lower levels of the gondola. If you start crouching and doing movements in the centre of the glass, the arbiter's player model changes colour, along with the weapons you're holding. If you don't believe me, try it out for yourself. (It has to be on the classic graphics of the game though, not remastered.) Found this glitch on the MCC, not sure if it works on the original Halo 2. Fun glitch though.
Imma try tht now
I remember that when I was younger, and I played a lot more Halo 2 than I do now, I found a glitch that I thought was interesting and I'm not certain whether it was a consistent one or not, but I would play Halo 2's original Xbox copy on my Xbox 360, offline (as can be expected) and I'm not sure whether that had anything to do with it, but at one part of this mission, one of the forerunner Sentinels, instead of the sentinel beam, was armed with a Needler, that was sort of morphed into its body like it were the beam.
I remember encountering that Sentinel too. Apparently it was just supposed to be a Sentinel tested for using weapons other than the Sentinel Beam that was accidentally left in the game.
Not Applicable ah needler sentinel? ive met that before too. Just look at the halowiki. They have all info you need.
Not Applicable Yep I see it all the time too. I thought about making a video about it, but idk if that's necessary or interesting enough either.
Generalkidd Well find a way to remember it and compile smaller things into a video eventually
I want to be able to reply to everyone, lol, but dang, I never realized it wasn't actually a glitch but a consistent thing. That's honestly pretty cool, and I think that's a really good idea Fahrenheit, to compile a few small items like that into a video. Also Generalkidd, I love your content, this is all so nostalgic and refreshing to see
These types of videos are like my guilty pleasure. Except not so guilty. Glitching got me SUPER into Halo games.
I love exploring glitches on original games, they're fun! It could show that there might be more glitches to discover in Halo 2 or 3!
Lol
Love it that you watch these too. Big fan
I played this campaign a million times on PC and never knew this glitch existed.
Same here on the Xbox and PC as well
I have never run into that glitch in all my years of playing halo 2. However I also have never went through that part too fast, I would always clear the flood before proceeding.
Everytime that happened to me when i was younger i would restart the mission. Something about Halo 2 made me love the elites and i hated seeing even one die when allied with me. all that talk of honor and brotherhood hit me back then. But all that died when 343 turned the elite into mashed potato looking freaks. now i kill every one
***** I see where you're coming from and yes there are those Halo 5 allied missions which were pretty cool but I'm referring to the preservation of certain characters/species whatever you want to call it. I don't remember the source but quite a few of the original Halo enthusiasts and players have pointed out 343's approach of gradually making changes to characters appearance and and likeness to make the Halo franchise a "343 exclusive" which it already is, but I'm talking about removing the same magic that Bungie brought to the Halo games. One example would be Halo 5s campaign where slowly we see less of the covenant (exempting the Sangheli missions) and more of a major focus towards the prometheans which of course is the focus of the story yet they seem to be pushing us to favour the prometheans over the covenant species. So bringing my personal opinions into this i cant stand the prometheans in game as they honestly have no appeal unless you follow the lore of the books but even then the generic soldiers have zero appeal. Secondly the fact that the game tried to kind of force us to like Team Osiris by making us play through half the damn game with them was a half assed approach and had zero affect in giving me an excuse to even consider wanting to continue the Halo series say if something were to happen to Chief. And lastly the fact that Bungie gave us Chief with the mindset of, "Hey, this guy is a total mystery. We want to player to feel as if it is them who are behind the suit". Chief was the embodiment of the most generic yet most loved character whom we developed a connection with due to not knowing what goes on within the silent warrior. We had no idea what he looks like which added to the appeal of the character because it gave us the opportunity to envision our own protagonist. 343 on the other hand gave us that petty excuse of a short film (don't remember the name) where we see Chief through his early years and man, that pissed me the hell off because, frankly put, he ugly af.
This is just my insight and opinions and the reason which i felt to explain myself was to express my thoughts and PRAY that the next Halo focuses on bringing the same magic that Bungie brought to us. And not to focus on flashy explosions and the introduction of characters who make the Spartans like chief or even ODST's like the Rookie seem like normals like the rest of them (which can clearly be seen by Palmers abrasive attitude and the introduction of that piece of shit Tanaka and that other chick who has her Sangheli speaking spaz attacks). Much love yo.
Thankfully halo wars 2 had WAY better elites.
I just started watching your videos, and when I saw this, I recognized this glitch where you melee the elite and then they completely freeze. On the mission Delta Halo at the very end where you have to snipe the jackals off of the structure before you go in, I was playing on Heroic and I sniped a Jackal on the chest. He dropped his weapon (pretty sure he was about to flee) but then he just froze completely. As a kid, this borderline confused me and made me drop dead laughing. I have no idea why it happens, but good to know I'm not the only one that encountered this lol
Another thing, I found that part of the game virtually unplayable in Anniversary mode because everything is so damn dark.
Great work General. Keep up the halo vids. Brings back so many memories.
im really loving the revisited videos, keep it up
I Love Halo 2
You have an awesome channel! Keep up the good work
There's another glitch that happens to me with the Elites right before you enter the room to get to the gondola. For some reason, when I have a bunch of Elites (including Half-Jaw) and I get near the door where all the turrets are, the Elites will stop firing their weapons and try to run to the room where all the Elites spawn in this video. In fact, it's probably connected to this glitch. It's like there is a certain trigger that 'overrides' their normal AI functions and causes them to beeline for that room. This happens a lot for me on MCC, not sure if it occurred on the original Halo 2.
Thank you for these vids my man!
I think it is to do with a loading issue and it doesn't get enough time to load the AI so you just get the models placed on the map, I saw this sort of thing happen a lot on the mission delta halo when you speed run and don't trigger a certain loading zone
@Generalkid would you do a video about the secret 2 spec-ops elites on the level "uprising"?
Those ones whos spawn when your other IA dies at beggining of the level.
+Luis Supri Hmm I don't know that one. What exactly do I have to do?
If all your AI Allies die (1 Ally can live for this to happen), 2 Spec Ops Elite will join you. Not really a secret or glitch. Same thing happens in The Arbit level, where if your whole team dies then 2 allies will join you, whether it's a grunt and an elite or 2 elites.
+Generalkidd Just like big sav said, but sometimes those elites spawn no matter if your AI dies or not.
Please make a video of that :(!
I love the sanic arbiter when you boost
On legendary I speed past many of the areas to avoid the tanks, which I can now assume is why the friendly AI stops working at the door with the flood on human turrets; they usually attempt to walk to the door but will not engage any of the flood there.
If I were to guess? Moving too quickly through the level causes you to miss crucial latches (think about trip wires, but these you actually HAVE to trip if you want the desired outcome) and thus the game spawns in pre-area AI that are meant to fight in the area before this one. Since they talked about how hard it was to get AI to work properly on a moving platform, I would wager to guess that the Elites on the platform are a very specific AI spawn.
So perhaps rushing through causes the game to spawn normal AI and not the ones meant to be on the platform?
I love your videos ❤️
I always wondered about the similar glitch on Sacred Icon. if you get jackals and grunts to survive to the gondola past the first enforcer encounter, their weapons despawn.
im not a coding expert but it probably has something to do with AI combat behavior transferring and keeping a cap on the amount of AI used. in other words, it saves on RAM and other computing resources if you just have the same group of elites respawn, or transfer their core combat behavior code to another set of elites, than have a new set of elites and more combat behavior code compiled on it. which makes sense, it is a long mission for an old game, I could see why Bungie may have needed to save computing resources by shuffling code between multiple sets of AI rather than every AI have their own source of combat coding clogging up the available resources. That's just a possible explanation though
It makes sense what your saying, you use a banshee to reach the end. I have never used a banshee past the big door where the spartans spawned, so I never had that glitch.
I had the same problem. Thanks man.
THANK YOU
I have NEVER had this issue of glitched elites and I have played that level many time, however I never rushed through it with a vehicle, so maybe on foot, you move slow enough to let the elites spawn in.
The one thing that was never fixed was that there were elites that always had dual wielding weapons and in the MCC they do not have them. Has anyone ever noticed this?
slicer940 yes me bro
I don’t think I’ve ever had this problem with the Elites not moving on the platform.
My theory as to why this happens could be that their spawned in before you get on the gondola to allow them to use the gondola's BSP/nav mesh since it moves. By moving to fast it spawns them on the gondola causing them not able to use the BSP/nav mesh, braking their AI. Could be completely wrong since I've never touched H2's modding tools or know how moving BSPs work but its what makes the most since to me
You need more energy
You should revisit the secret elite, or the hidden song easteregg.
Elites look so cool on Anniversary
the frozen elites are similar to the Fearless Marine. it's just a placeholder AI.
I managed to get down to the bottom of the first room you are in when you are on the transport to get the Index WITHOUT DYING. And it is pretty far down and would probably will die, but I found a way.
it had to do with the limitations of the old xbox so bungie had to preload things before cutscenes etc including AI your also not suppose to see them load it would take you out of the story and when they do appear on the gondola you have interupted that loading order but on the other they are suppose to be there too so they are forced to load by code
Notice where the elites spawn, on legendary those elite models are suppose to be flood elite models. On legendary when that door opens, a shit ton of flood elites will rush out of that door meaning that those elite models are messed up flood models that didnt turn into the flood models because you were too fast. Thats why those elite models appear after awhile.
Ooooh! So that's what happened!
In halo ce, all ai spawns are grouped up into squads, if its the same as halo 2, then im assuming they are glitched because half of the squad is in one loading zone and then the other is in the loading zone you are in so the game thinks they dont exist.
is that the level halo 4's "requiem" is based off of?
That happened to me on the MCC.
When I was playing this on split screen coop me and my friend once entered the doorway and he wants to get his ghost but as we were heading back and the door is closed we turned around we see the elites thats how we discovered it too and it randomly happen to us
It seems like of you're too fast they think they're at the first load part, not the second
revisit the invincible marine thing in Halo 1, the first mission
sonic always goes fast
I wish I could play halo 2 it looks awesome
this has happens to me hundreds of times
They are tooo traumatized by war
This is one of the most annoying bugs I ever encountered and reloading the checkpoint never worked.
iT HAPPENED TO ME IN A NOTHER MISSION AND IT MADE ME FREAK OUT !
Epic!!!!!!
nice glitch.
The extra elites were the pilots from the phantoms
When I played on legendary I found them more useful when they didn't move. The flood would attack them and since they have more health then you, you could use them as bait to kill the flood. Had two survive through to the end.
When they freeze they returned to they original model pose
am i the only one who noticed the arbiter pop out of the wall from 1:13 - 1:14
Try duel weld Needlers on jackals
2:52 Did that flood just jump off with the elite?!?
Adam Ewan Keachie
Yep. XD
Suicide. jajaja
On master chief I became invincible somehow, we had Sarah guns and my dad was dying but not me, me hit a load or cutscenes and it wore off. Do a video on that! Invincibility that is
i care about my elite allies more than my marines
I have never gotten this glitch. Am I the odd one out?
Nope, neither have I. Then again I'm pretty sure we're both the kind of player that prefers to kill everything, and probably took a tank every playthrough therefore having to walk through the corridor instead of flying through with a ghost.
Never got it either. Though its probably for the same reason, as when fighting The Flood or the Halo 2 Brutes/Jackals I typically never leave any alive and try very hard to work with and protect my allies. Sometimes when playing as Chief I’ll let a few Grunts and Elites live though.
hey i know this sounds weird but what if the elites were the prophets thingi on high charity and the brutes were good and came on your side you know the marines and the elites were still bad from halo 3 to
the battle rifle with 208 rounds
Well I love killing everything that are enemies and love having teammates! LOL
This same glitch happened to me when I was playing the campaign on Legendary
Mark Nutt! Nobody cares
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Josue Negron K bye now
Are you actually 11?
Josue Negron Ask your mother
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So the Sentinel Beam is NOT a new weapon ??
no it was in halo 2 and 3
Ian Blanchet are you new to halo.....I'm interested to hear someone's opinion on halo that hasn't played the bungie ones first.
My first halo game was ODST, I hated it then, but I love it now.
The sentinel beam appears on Halo CE.
Its use by the sentinels.
Ya well you the player cant use it so that's why I excluded it from what I said
I've done this years when I was a kid bro
mistery
pprobaly missed a trigger by going to fast
this has never happened to me
Lmao.. I said He dude when the vid started.
It does not happens to me
Mine elites fight
You don't say WHY it happens, only what happens
Piggy_one basically the AI have objectives they have to follow, the game spawns them in then tells them to follow their objectives. If you progress through the level too fast (before the game can spawn the AI in) then the game skips telling the AI what to do and just spawns them.
No le disparas añadiendo
1:40
"Pc version"
what pc version
Bronut halo 2 for windows vista
The best one #RIPH2V
Well yeah I guess, but it doesn't have as big of an install base like H2V when it was active. I wish I could play 8v8 CTF on Coagulation or big team slayer on District.
I was under the impression that Project Cartographer was even more lacking in player activity than H2V.
4:57 Shit Master??
oh my name aint silo peape by the way my name is shane
Do you fart while you poop?
I care about my elite allies