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8:52 Emperor Tigerstar, how did you not notice that the anonymous user who posted this map was actually your oldest video and the channel shown was actually yours? You even gave your own video a 1/10 rating, you had one job!
Honestly it's so refreshing to hear a RUclipsr say "yeah this series performed well, but it's draining for me/going stale so I'm just going to end it." Excited to see what cartography nerds consider an amazing map, and glad you sent this series off with a bang before the series itself earned a Nope/10!
6:24 Not only are the borders absolutely abysmal, but the range map for the ANIMAL IT'S TALKING ABOUT is completely wrong! You can notice that the _indian_ gaur is noticeably vacant from INDIA
Looking at the habitat map on Wikipedia, it looks like they layered the map wrong, and the distribution range is supposed to be smaller. I think the v shaped part over Arabia is supposed to be in India, and the part over China/Second Russia is supposed to be in southeast Asia. Seems like the whole thing is just a photoshop disaster.
I love how Paradox Games set the colors for countries on the map like Russia being Green (or bright red if U.S.S.R.), France being dark Blue, Spain yellow, Italy bright green, and so on.
I guess with blue France or blue any country really you run into the issue of "can't be confusingly blue if the water is also blue" but I've definitely seen it before that, eg on textbook maps of Berlin congress Africa - red Britain, blue France, yellow Spain for sure, then grey Germany or Belgium, green Portugal or Italy (I feel like I've seen both but not within the same map). Or textbook maps of Napoleonic wars-era Europe even. And I mean, I'm not that old but also I definitely went to school before 2014.
the red splotches in the sea in the map at 7:00 are because they did not overlay the range of the gaur correctly. i did not know the range of it, but i looked it up since he mentioned the spots in the sea, and then i thought it was suspicious that a cow apparently lived in the arabian desert, and i realized that splotch was kind of shaped like india, and the other one in the middle kind of looked like burma.
@@nivbarshem2674 😭 in all honesty vic2 isn't bad with it. there's like, 2 DLCs with gameplay and it's about $10 in total. you can definitely say that for hoi4 and eu4 tho
I'm glad you ended the series on a high note instead of stringing it along until nobody wanted to watch it anymore. I can't wait for awesome maps; it sounds interesting. Would you consider criticizing fantasy or Althistory maps too?
I will miss this series; however, I understand why this isn't continuing. That segment at 8:51 from "EmpErrorTijerstare" was the cherry on top. Great video, and I hope to see that "Awesome Maps" series exist soon!
6:54 that’s what happened with time ghosts map of axis held territory in January 1945. The map is mostly perfect but they accidentally moved the lakes and rivers layer really far to the west. The Volga river flows from Leningrad to the Black Sea. The Great Lakes are in Montana. Lake Ladoga is in the center of Finland. Lake bikal is in the wrong spot but I don’t know enough about that region to say where it is. I didn’t even know it was in the wrong spot until they pointed it out. Also, unrelated to that, for some reason part of East Prussia (specifically the modern borders of what is now the exclave of Kaliningrad) is part of the Baltic Sea
For a handful of years, I enjoyed watching (and laughing) at all of what you called "cringey cartography". Now, I am glad that you not only had the chance to give this series a send-off, but I am also looking forward to seeing all the _good_ maps you will show us in the future! Thanks for making this video, and this series!
7:15 the red is supposed to be the range of the animal but it's at a different scale than either of the 2 russias. The eastern half is supposed to be over south east asia and the western over India.
Great to hear there will be a new Great Maps series, perhaps some will even get a "yep!" out of 10. Definitely understand how draining it is, it will be nice to have another positive series on the internet. Hopefully I'll soon make a video of one of the games from my childhood with 6 of the 8 worlds having maps for everyone to enjoy.
I appreciate the sentiment here. There's no shame in putting an end to something. It's nice to be able to look back at something you've done and say "Yep, it was cool, and now it's over." Something to tuck into your portfolio.
I'm honestly glad about this. The first few Horrible Maps videos were great, but over time I felt the same way you did - it seemed like a lot of the maps being featured were either intentionally bad or just really nitpicky, which deviated from what I thought was the original goal of highlighting bad educational material. I also love the shift towards looking at better maps and bringing more attention to positive work, versus the more typical youtube thing of focusing on negative things.
When I was a kid in school, I always got bored and spent the entire class drawing maps at the side of pages of books/notebooks. I drew all sorts of maps: real ones, fantasy, political, climate/vegetation, etc. I did it so many times, that I can draw Europe by hand, with precise shapes and proportions, just out of instinct alone. Needless to say, I enjoyed this series, because it legitimately bothers me that paid, professional map sketchers can come up with such monstrosities.
ah i liked the series well this new series with good maps seems to be intresting too but is still sad that horrible maps is over so for anyone who wanted this series to continue remember 10:11
It takes a lot of bravery to start something, and perhaps even more so to end it. Looking forward to the future of cartography based content on this channel.
Great video and I loved that you even have a sense of self criticism in a funny way at 8:56. Map from 10:53: Seems like Q Junior was bored again in 2406 after his father Q Sr. started to play with Jake Picard/Crusher after the finale of ST:PIC so he rearranged some tectonic plates again as previously seen on ST:VOY when Q Sr. placed his son on the USS Voyager to learn some of the Federation ideals three decades earlier in linear understanding of time.
11:45 My personal favorite. The "Why Germany and France fought?" below makes it even funnier, considering that it seems Germany, after expanding into the Baltic sea, went neutral in this timeline, so the author must be genuinely asking "Why did they fight? It doesn`t make any sense!"
Well, it was fun while it lasted, but I'm glad your moving onto other things. I look forward to watching your year by year videos and other map videos you make :3
It might be ironic, but at the start of the school year, I saw an horrible map on the colonial powers lf the 20th century in my History textbook, and I truly mean horrible (there was British US lol), and I ever since I saw it for the first time, I thought about submitting the map for this series, but I always forgot to. Now I guess I'll keep the book just in case :)
We live in a world filled with people expressing their displeasure of things or embracing ( and revelling in) schadenfreude. Talking about positives of things and why, feeling the passion and energy attached will be a wonderfully refreshing change to what is a very negative internet discourse. I look forward to seeing why you like certain maps :)
Oh man, I wish I'd heard of this series before. I once owned an embroidered throw pillow I got from Goodwill that had a map of North and South America, Africa, the island continent of Europe, Australia and New Zealand, and Greenland floating off the coast of Argentina
Hey Tigerstar, here's a quick suggestion for some more map related content that I'd desperately love to see: Climate stuff! (no, I don't just mean climate change, there's so much more to climate beyond just what's changing and it sadly tends to get overshadowed). Yes, I know Geodiode does a lot of that stuff, but its such a broad topic you could go on for ages about it. Everything from how climate has influenced culture, to various ways of categorizing climate (hardiness zones, Holdridge life zones, Trewartha climate classification, Koppen climate classification) and their benefits and drawbacks, some of the places that you wouldn't expect to be climatic analogues, climate anomalies like very high latitude tropics or the South Atlantic's lack of hurricanes, coral reef distribution, cloud forests, etc. I've spent years scrounging various maps of climate stuff that I could find from time to time and it always just absolutely sucks me in. Its so incredibly beautiful, complicated, fascinating, and at times a little esoteric. Absolutely deserves a series!
Dang. I had a map in my school that was definitely an art thing made of metal plates, but so many geographic features were exaggerated or missing (they didn't even have new zealand). Probably would get a 5/10
7:10 The double russia and splotches thing could be a printing error. Sometimes something that looks like its fine on the computer is scaled differently than the sheet youre printing to, and if all the elements arent merged to the same layer it can cause it to print funky, moving elements to different areas to fit on the page. I could see the double russia just being a redundant layer with russia on it that the artist never bothered deleting because it was perfectly lined up with the real russia, for instance
Why is Alsace independant? Honestly though, I agree (and applaude you) that this series really has reached it's end. It's become little more than a passtime compared to your other content (which is phenominal as always). Never stop what you love doing, and do what you love instead. Looking forward to the new series, see you on the other side!
It's was fun while it lasted. It's poetic to also roast your very fist video. Also, can't wait for the series of maps and cartographic charts that you love.
As a fellow map nerd I enjoyed the series. I am glad to hear it is ending though. Only so many times can you see the terrible maps before they all start blending together. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the border gore of EU4 and other strategies like as much as the next guy. However I am stoked to see a good maps series!
4:45 Some of those borders aren't just sloppy, they're wrong for the time period. For example Romania and Finland's borders with Russia are missing bits they lost in 1940 (In Romania's case it's shown with the modern Republic of Moldova borders, not the actual 1918 border). This would be somewhat awkward for a map in a history book that then goes on to talk to the leadup to WWII.
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@@clintoncosby2233 that was satire
8:52 Emperor Tigerstar, how did you not notice that the anonymous user who posted this map was actually your oldest video and the channel shown was actually yours? You even gave your own video a 1/10 rating, you had one job!
"Nearly 7 years ago"
"Back in July 2017"
Excuse me *WHAT*
It gets worse. 2028 is as far from where we are now as 2020.
oooOOOOooooOOOO time is paaasssiiiiiing!!!
@@BetaDude40 took the words straight out of my mouth brother
2017 is 2 years ago you can’t lie
@@natheniel 3*
I've got another horrible map: 3:35
Oh my god that's such a hilarious oversight on His end
Ooof
Ngl I was hoping he was gonna roast that map lol
I've made the same joke on an earlier video, great minds think alike
damn brexit went really hard huh
Honestly it's so refreshing to hear a RUclipsr say "yeah this series performed well, but it's draining for me/going stale so I'm just going to end it."
Excited to see what cartography nerds consider an amazing map, and glad you sent this series off with a bang before the series itself earned a Nope/10!
Fun fact: Checkmate Lincolnites' final episode is coming out within the next couple months
I've heard...it will be a bittersweet ending when it comes. I love that series @warlordofbritannia
6:24 Not only are the borders absolutely abysmal, but the range map for the ANIMAL IT'S TALKING ABOUT is completely wrong! You can notice that the _indian_ gaur is noticeably vacant from INDIA
Looking at the habitat map on Wikipedia, it looks like they layered the map wrong, and the distribution range is supposed to be smaller. I think the v shaped part over Arabia is supposed to be in India, and the part over China/Second Russia is supposed to be in southeast Asia. Seems like the whole thing is just a photoshop disaster.
They just got the wrong subspecies. It shows accurately the range of the aquatic mountaingaur
@@bwv668I'm sorry, but how do anyone do that?
I assume that they factcheck it before they post it onto the world.
@@edwinhuang9244
Why would you ever assume such a thing under any context?
@@kjj26k Ok the edit should clarify what I meant.
I love how Paradox Games set the colors for countries on the map like Russia being Green (or bright red if U.S.S.R.), France being dark Blue, Spain yellow, Italy bright green, and so on.
i think red Britain / blue France at least is quite a bit older than Paradox Games but I couldn't say exactly how old
I guess with blue France or blue any country really you run into the issue of "can't be confusingly blue if the water is also blue"
but I've definitely seen it before that, eg on textbook maps of Berlin congress Africa - red Britain, blue France, yellow Spain for sure, then grey Germany or Belgium, green Portugal or Italy (I feel like I've seen both but not within the same map). Or textbook maps of Napoleonic wars-era Europe even.
And I mean, I'm not that old but also I definitely went to school before 2014.
From what I can tell Britain/England being Red (or pink on most printed maps) and France being blue goes back many centuries
All of these are older than paradox
The colors are generally due to the colors soldiers wore e.g. the British were known as redcoats.
the red splotches in the sea in the map at 7:00 are because they did not overlay the range of the gaur correctly.
i did not know the range of it, but i looked it up since he mentioned the spots in the sea, and then i thought it was suspicious that a cow apparently lived in the arabian desert, and i realized that splotch was kind of shaped like india, and the other one in the middle kind of looked like burma.
I noticed the same thing. It makes sense given the other problems with the map.
A❤❤
9:21 isn't yellow prussia a victoria thing lol
yeah vanilla vic2 has yellow prussia
It was never confirmed, but given that vanilla Vic2 also has grey Belgium, one can assume what happened.
@@MaxwellTornado i have the game and can sadly say that if you don't buy the DLC, you're stuck with yellow prussia
@@1Woofer1This is an a example of everything that is wrong in the gaming industry. Using terror tactics to force us to buy DLCes
@@nivbarshem2674 😭 in all honesty vic2 isn't bad with it. there's like, 2 DLCs with gameplay and it's about $10 in total. you can definitely say that for hoi4 and eu4 tho
Goodbye, Horrible Maps. Gonna miss it… but god, textbooks, please stop giving this a reason to exist.
"Yellow Prussia"
Base game Victoria 2 wants to know your location
What a journey this has been. We wish you luck
I'm glad you ended the series on a high note instead of stringing it along until nobody wanted to watch it anymore.
I can't wait for awesome maps; it sounds interesting.
Would you consider criticizing fantasy or Althistory maps too?
Oh, that would be fantastic!
I might send in my own to be graded.
Not all alt history maps are created equal
The last one is what would happen if Europe was colonized by Europeans.
I find the prospect of them sinking Ireland and Norway hilarious.
It’s also nice to see the Adriatic renamed “Sea”, nice nod to things like East East. (Timor-Leste)
😂
They seem to have been incredibly poweful, sinking Norway and Ireland, while changing the physical shape of Scotland.
@@1brianm7 Tbf Austria is literally just named “Eastern Country”.
5:14 Nice!
🥲
Looking forward to the beautifull maps.
An excellent ending to an excellent series. RIP horrible maps
I agree. We should rip horrible maps apart.
8:58 That Emp Error Ty Jere Stair map is horrible!!!!
I will miss this series; however, I understand why this isn't continuing. That segment at 8:51 from "EmpErrorTijerstare" was the cherry on top. Great video, and I hope to see that "Awesome Maps" series exist soon!
6:54 that’s what happened with time ghosts map of axis held territory in January 1945. The map is mostly perfect but they accidentally moved the lakes and rivers layer really far to the west. The Volga river flows from Leningrad to the Black Sea. The Great Lakes are in Montana. Lake Ladoga is in the center of Finland. Lake bikal is in the wrong spot but I don’t know enough about that region to say where it is. I didn’t even know it was in the wrong spot until they pointed it out. Also, unrelated to that, for some reason part of East Prussia (specifically the modern borders of what is now the exclave of Kaliningrad) is part of the Baltic Sea
3:35 How ironic this is in a video about bad maps
Let's go I didn't get featured! Great success!
*Insert borat here*
For a handful of years, I enjoyed watching (and laughing) at all of what you called "cringey cartography". Now, I am glad that you not only had the chance to give this series a send-off, but I am also looking forward to seeing all the _good_ maps you will show us in the future!
Thanks for making this video, and this series!
7:15 the red is supposed to be the range of the animal but it's at a different scale than either of the 2 russias.
The eastern half is supposed to be over south east asia and the western over India.
This series has brought me much joy over the years, and I'll be looking forward to the Good Map series. Goodbye fro now!
Finale? 😢
You mean thank goodness! This should’ve been a one time thing!
@@jeffreygao3956 nah
@@jeffreygao3956 womp womp
@@jeffreygao3956i think you meant this was a fun series
@@oaksaddle No, not fun.
This series was what got me into this channel, thanks for this wonderful series
Great to hear there will be a new Great Maps series, perhaps some will even get a "yep!" out of 10.
Definitely understand how draining it is, it will be nice to have another positive series on the internet.
Hopefully I'll soon make a video of one of the games from my childhood with 6 of the 8 worlds having maps for everyone to enjoy.
Rip Horrible Maps [2017-2024]
I appreciate the sentiment here. There's no shame in putting an end to something. It's nice to be able to look back at something you've done and say "Yep, it was cool, and now it's over." Something to tuck into your portfolio.
i rly appreciate the shift towards positivity and passion! looking forward to the great maps
I'm honestly glad about this. The first few Horrible Maps videos were great, but over time I felt the same way you did - it seemed like a lot of the maps being featured were either intentionally bad or just really nitpicky, which deviated from what I thought was the original goal of highlighting bad educational material.
I also love the shift towards looking at better maps and bringing more attention to positive work, versus the more typical youtube thing of focusing on negative things.
When I was a kid in school, I always got bored and spent the entire class drawing maps at the side of pages of books/notebooks. I drew all sorts of maps: real ones, fantasy, political, climate/vegetation, etc. I did it so many times, that I can draw Europe by hand, with precise shapes and proportions, just out of instinct alone. Needless to say, I enjoyed this series, because it legitimately bothers me that paid, professional map sketchers can come up with such monstrosities.
4:25 My map got in =) Thanks Emperor Tigerstar
Nooooo it's ending? :(
ah i liked the series well this new series with good maps seems to be intresting too but is still sad that horrible maps is over so for anyone who wanted this series to continue remember 10:11
9:15 Right here absolutely nobody is judging it's own map, nope!... Not at all ^^
It takes a lot of bravery to start something, and perhaps even more so to end it. Looking forward to the future of cartography based content on this channel.
Great video and I loved that you even have a sense of self criticism in a funny way at 8:56.
Map from 10:53:
Seems like Q Junior was bored again in 2406 after his father Q Sr. started to play with Jake Picard/Crusher after the finale of ST:PIC so he rearranged some tectonic plates again as previously seen on ST:VOY when Q Sr. placed his son on the USS Voyager to learn some of the Federation ideals three decades earlier in linear understanding of time.
Awesome map series! Will watch
6:15 Ah yes, the Indian gaur, apparently located everywhere except India
9:39 this what all maps in schools look like once "no child left behind" passed
Thank you so much for making this series.
Glad to see you moving onto something you enjoy more.
Loved the series and I can’t wait to see what the future has in store.
This was a wonderful series to watch that gave so many memories, it's kinda sad to see it go, but I understand where you're coming from.
o7
I’m really sad to see it go. I hope it comes back soon. Best map series on RUclips
6:40 that border in india mustve meant the princely states have returned XD
Sad to see this series end but it’s been a great journey through some truly horrendous maps. Looking forward to watching the great maps series!
I'm very excited for an awesome maps series. I love finding new cool maps
11:45 My personal favorite. The "Why Germany and France fought?" below makes it even funnier, considering that it seems Germany, after expanding into the Baltic sea, went neutral in this timeline, so the author must be genuinely asking "Why did they fight? It doesn`t make any sense!"
10:00 Ah yes, my favourite sea, Sea. I love spending my vacation in the independent country of Tyrol bathing in Sea
It's just the mapmakers splitting the words to try and avoid cramming it into one portion. They did a horrible job of doing that.
A video or series on maps you love is a genuinely good idea. There are so many good maps that just hit right if that makes sense
Tigerstar: Nearly 7 years ago...
Me: Oh, so like in 2012?
Tigerstar: ...in 2017.
Me: Why are we still here? Just to suffer?
what a journey, was here at the start and am still here now, can't wait for the good maps series
The perfect end to the perfect series
I’m gonna miss it for sure but I understand why you are discontinuing it
sad to see this series end, I've always liked it. Excited for your maps I love series tho, sounds like that will be fun
Well, it was fun while it lasted, but I'm glad your moving onto other things. I look forward to watching your year by year videos and other map videos you make :3
Hello, I submitted that last map!
I saw this map, it was all the continents glued together and labeled pagnea or something. Yeah like if that would ever happen. Pretty terrible.
It might be ironic, but at the start of the school year, I saw an horrible map on the colonial powers lf the 20th century in my History textbook, and I truly mean horrible (there was British US lol), and I ever since I saw it for the first time, I thought about submitting the map for this series, but I always forgot to. Now I guess I'll keep the book just in case :)
We live in a world filled with people expressing their displeasure of things or embracing ( and revelling in) schadenfreude. Talking about positives of things and why, feeling the passion and energy attached will be a wonderfully refreshing change to what is a very negative internet discourse.
I look forward to seeing why you like certain maps :)
Sad to see it go, but it had a good run
I can't believe you featured hit map enthusiast EmpError Tai Gerstare. Huge fan despite the wonky map, I hope they go places in the future.
I love the bad maps series, but I’m glad you’re moving on since you’re bored with it
Perfect ending. Good job. I was a little kid when this series started now I'm 18. Good job Emperor Tigerstar!
8:50 you can't run away Emperor. I know I remember when you uploaded this
Lovely send off, thanks for all the laughs over the years. Excited to see what's next!
Oh man, I wish I'd heard of this series before. I once owned an embroidered throw pillow I got from Goodwill that had a map of North and South America, Africa, the island continent of Europe, Australia and New Zealand, and Greenland floating off the coast of Argentina
Hey Tigerstar, here's a quick suggestion for some more map related content that I'd desperately love to see:
Climate stuff! (no, I don't just mean climate change, there's so much more to climate beyond just what's changing and it sadly tends to get overshadowed). Yes, I know Geodiode does a lot of that stuff, but its such a broad topic you could go on for ages about it. Everything from how climate has influenced culture, to various ways of categorizing climate (hardiness zones, Holdridge life zones, Trewartha climate classification, Koppen climate classification) and their benefits and drawbacks, some of the places that you wouldn't expect to be climatic analogues, climate anomalies like very high latitude tropics or the South Atlantic's lack of hurricanes, coral reef distribution, cloud forests, etc. I've spent years scrounging various maps of climate stuff that I could find from time to time and it always just absolutely sucks me in. Its so incredibly beautiful, complicated, fascinating, and at times a little esoteric. Absolutely deserves a series!
Bon voyage Horrible Maps. This was a good decision. I look forward to the new series you have planned!
Wow, this has been a wild journey. Thanks.
Thanks for the series tigerstar
Glad you are leating this series go to focus more on postive content you enjoy.
8:22 this felt scary for some reason
NOOOOOO 😭😭😭 loved this series
I wish the compilation would have your original recording
I cannot wait for the great maps series.
Love this series. Great send off.
Dang. I had a map in my school that was definitely an art thing made of metal plates, but so many geographic features were exaggerated or missing (they didn't even have new zealand). Probably would get a 5/10
I already know awesome maps will be even better than terrible maps!!!
Loved the series, but good for you for calling it before it got driven I to the ground
Don't be sad it ended, smile because it happened.
Don't smile because it ended. Be sad because it happened 😂😂😂
Im kidding obv
You can start your own horrible maps channel
Your Music is honestly my fav, content.
he didnt make the music
Sounded a bit like a certain classic rock song.
funny that the ad has a horrible map in itself
It's been a good run folks, but no good thing lasts forever. Thanks Tigerstar, this series has been so enjoyable!!
The end of a legacy.
a beautiful sendoff to the series.
7:10 The double russia and splotches thing could be a printing error. Sometimes something that looks like its fine on the computer is scaled differently than the sheet youre printing to, and if all the elements arent merged to the same layer it can cause it to print funky, moving elements to different areas to fit on the page. I could see the double russia just being a redundant layer with russia on it that the artist never bothered deleting because it was perfectly lined up with the real russia, for instance
Truly the end of an era
Sad to see the series end, but it still was nice looking at beautiful border gore not even hoi4 could create
"Now cracks a noble heart. Good night, sweet prince,/And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest."
Why is Alsace independant?
Honestly though, I agree (and applaude you) that this series really has reached it's end. It's become little more than a passtime compared to your other content (which is phenominal as always). Never stop what you love doing, and do what you love instead.
Looking forward to the new series, see you on the other side!
Can't wait for great maps series
It's was fun while it lasted.
It's poetic to also roast your very fist video.
Also, can't wait for the series of maps and cartographic charts that you love.
As a fellow map nerd I enjoyed the series. I am glad to hear it is ending though. Only so many times can you see the terrible maps before they all start blending together. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the border gore of EU4 and other strategies like as much as the next guy. However I am stoked to see a good maps series!
I'm really excited for the "awesome maps" series!
4:45 Some of those borders aren't just sloppy, they're wrong for the time period. For example Romania and Finland's borders with Russia are missing bits they lost in 1940 (In Romania's case it's shown with the modern Republic of Moldova borders, not the actual 1918 border). This would be somewhat awkward for a map in a history book that then goes on to talk to the leadup to WWII.
It has never been so over
5:45 Netherlands is a mess lol, lower and wadden islands missing, Afsluitdijk existing
Two Russias sounds like the most horrible thing imaginable.
Polish hell
That emperortigerstar must have been playing victoria 2 without dlc and mods :)
nooooooo this was my favorite series