I own this machine for something over two years now, still works like a charm. I read somewhere that if you take the pressurizer out of the porta filter, it gives you more control over your brew, however makes for a more challenging cup of coffee. I did so a while ago, coffee is better than ever although it took some time to get the grind and tempering just right. I encourage everyone to try it, if you manage to not break anything (I didnt, lol), you can always put the pressurizer back again.
I just wanted to credit you guys with the amazing improvement in video quality/sound/editing from the older reviews. Its nice to see youtubers that invest in their recording to produce better videos for us. Definitely makes the reviews a much more enjoyable experience.
I own this machine (bought from SCG, natch), and wanted to throw in my two cents. First, even though this doesn't come up in the video, a lot of times they'll talk about the grounds coming out of the portafilter as a complete sloppy mess. This hasn't been my experience - dosing at 18g and a medium-firm tamp, the grounds are completely dry every time. I even manage to hit the 20-30 second pull time window, just something to keep in mind. Second, you completely can control the amount of foam you get out of the machine. Just like with a "big-boy" steam wand, I'll keep the tip of the panarello just under the surface of the milk until it gets to about 80 degrees or so on the thermometer, or when the milk stops screeching. Then, and she even mentioned this in the video, I'll make sure to move the steaming pitcher up to cover that little hole on the top of the steam wand. Then you don't get more foam than you want! For bonus points, get a good circulation going in your milk; instead of a horizontal spin, go for a vertical one, where the steam moves all of the milk around in the pitcher and incorporates nicely. It takes a bit of technique (and a lot of practice) but you can eventually get something approximating latte art quality foam out of this thing. I've been very happy with mine. I have a Baratza Encore to go with it, though if you want to upgrade to a non-pressurized portafilter in the future you might want to go up to the Precisio, which gives you much finer control over the level of grind and thus final pull time.
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Really helpful video. I have one myself and have been playing around with it recently. Why would you say that the steamed milk isn't latte art quality? As long as you heat the milk appropriately and have microfoam, doesn't the rest depend on the person pouring? What's missing from this machine that doesn't allow it to make latte art milk? Thanks
My machine is almost 8 years old, it's still perfect. Naturally, it was properly maintained, descaled, etc. There are times when more than 5*2 servings of coffee are made with it...
I own a Peomia but am here after watching your temperature surfing video. I ran a few temperature tests on my machine and noticed that when the brew light is on the water coming out of the group head is only about 166 F. After steaming, I checked the water temp once again and it's only 177-179 F. Do you know of any reasoning for this or is it just a cheap machine? Steam also seams to be weak and lasts for only a short amount of time. I'm not even sure how I've been making drinks with this thing... haha
I've got a question. The double and the single filter does not fit perfectly inside the portafilter, so that it stands few millimeters above the edge: is there a way to clean the filter from coffee without having to wait for it to cool down so that it can be extracted from the portafilter and then cleaned? If I try to empty the filter while it sits in the portafilter, it will eventually come off. Thank you!
For folks with this machine, does your steam wand dribble tiny bits of water even with the steam knob turned as tight as you can? Mine seems to do that more often now.
+Matt Trix yes, mine does, there is a trick to it though, let it run till it gets the air bubbles out of it, (it might take up to 30 seconds or so, but it will clear up. after that, if you keep the wand about 1/4" under the top of the milk, and keep the mug at about a 15 degree tilt, you will the thickest micro bubble of foam of all time. (there is a trick to the foam though, i have barista friends that cant make it happen near as well as i can) so give it alittle practice. I make my own caramel and i will put my caramel latte up against any machine, any day. Its a great little coffee machine, it just takes a little time to get it right!
I can't for the life of me figure out why I can't rotate my steamer knob on the side of the machine. It just doesn't bulge in either direction, does anyone have experience with this issue?
I really like what the poemia has to offer, but I did have one question, i'm looking at the Gaggia classic, which i can get (refurb) for around the same price as aroma -- why do you not have any Gaggia products? the classic has everything i'd like except the panarello -- but it seems that it can be upgraded quite easily with the silvia steam arm. and its a lot less pricey than the silvia. for the same price of the silvia i can get the Gaggia Classic AND a Preciso, and still have $ left over to upgrade the wand?
+Munky332 The Poemia is a great machine for the price. We also have refurbished Poemia's available from time to time: www.seattlecoffeegear.com/saeco-poemia-espresso-machine-certified-refurbished To answer your question, we carried both Saeco and Gaggia a while back. But ran into some warranty support issues with Gaggia, and so we decided to focus on Saeco. As you can tell the machines are very similar. Let us know if you have any other questions!
I have this machine and I really like it! Someone threw the top cover in the garbage 😭anyone know where I can get a replacement? There is a guy selling one on Ebay for $300, seemed excessive...please help
+belichan17 Something like this Baratza Encore would work well with this machine (www.seattlecoffeegear.com/baratza-encore-grinder). But if you think you might want to upgrade your espresso machine in the future, to a machine without a pressurized basket, it may be worth the extra investment in a grinder like the Breville Smart Grinder Pro so that you have the ability to upgrade in the future. Take a look here: www.seattlecoffeegear.com/breville-smart-grinder-pro
You need to ensure the reservoir is clicked all the way down. There's a line painted on the inside of the machine indicating the level the reservoir needs to be below.
@@Harvind89 , hi, thank you for replying. I do it all the time and it was ok. But now, there doesn’t seem to be a click and I thought the reservoir rested in holder. I will give it a try again. Thank you very much.
@@Harvind89 I have another question. I noticed the coffee does flow out, the machine is running, but coffee does flow out like it was new. I tried cleaning it with tablet and flushing out water, it was ok, but not with coffee. My hubby bought a new head. Please advise.
@@catherinechia4843 I'm actually having that exact same problem at the moment! Tried different methods and even disassembled everything to give it a good clean, still no luck. I'm on the verge of giving up and getting a new machine. If you find a solution - let me know!
Guys, what say you? I think this one, even without a very fancy grinder, beats out Nespresso every time... Or, am I wrong and this is in the same league as a Moka pot?
Ok, after a year of daily use, a metal perforated disc, about the size of my basket bottom, has just randomly fallen out of the group head area, onto the counter. Does anybody know what this is?
It sounds like the dispersion screen. Does it look like the disc in our tune up kit for this machine? www.seattlecoffeegear.com/seattle-coffee-gear-saeco-poemia-tune-up-kit
I love your reviews Gail, thanks! And I love my Poemia. I'm about to make the jump to non-pressurized (with a Hario Skerton hand grinder). If I'm just making shots for myself, any reason why I shouldn't go bottomless?
Very nice review, I loved the tip about artificially cooling down the machine to brew your coffee, I always wait for it to cool down and it takes ages and the milk cools down aswell! Thanks a lot, I'll probably be buying this machine to substitute my old Viva Gaggia! :) Take care
+Felipe Bazignan Well she does say that they did at the beginning of the video, though the quality of their videos have improved A LOT since the first time ;)
The extraction seems so slow and forced, drop by drop, pretty sure the coffee tastes a bit like burn. Using pressurized filters since a while and this is their problem
Gaggia Viva Chic is simpler than Poemia...to spell and New...why Not a Review? To improve the taste use the mechanism and Feature of the portafilter. Hold IT tonthe right Limit for 6...8 Second or untill First Drops come Out of the portafilter. Than Release it. This Gaggia-Saeco portafilters do not have a Pinhole and a Ventile instead. Same with the Grangaggia and the Carezza, while the Carezza has a Thermoblock.
I own this machine for something over two years now, still works like a charm. I read somewhere that if you take the pressurizer out of the porta filter, it gives you more control over your brew, however makes for a more challenging cup of coffee. I did so a while ago, coffee is better than ever although it took some time to get the grind and tempering just right. I encourage everyone to try it, if you manage to not break anything (I didnt, lol), you can always put the pressurizer back again.
Jiří Vyhnálek is this a better choice than the Gaggia Classic for me that’s new and don’t have a grinder yet ?
@@AzizIzgin same machines
I just wanted to credit you guys with the amazing improvement in video quality/sound/editing from the older reviews. Its nice to see youtubers that invest in their recording to produce better videos for us. Definitely makes the reviews a much more enjoyable experience.
+MrBurtonPE Thanks so much! :D Keep being awesome :D
Xche nn parla italiano +
I own this machine (bought from SCG, natch), and wanted to throw in my two cents.
First, even though this doesn't come up in the video, a lot of times they'll talk about the grounds coming out of the portafilter as a complete sloppy mess. This hasn't been my experience - dosing at 18g and a medium-firm tamp, the grounds are completely dry every time. I even manage to hit the 20-30 second pull time window, just something to keep in mind.
Second, you completely can control the amount of foam you get out of the machine. Just like with a "big-boy" steam wand, I'll keep the tip of the panarello just under the surface of the milk until it gets to about 80 degrees or so on the thermometer, or when the milk stops screeching. Then, and she even mentioned this in the video, I'll make sure to move the steaming pitcher up to cover that little hole on the top of the steam wand. Then you don't get more foam than you want! For bonus points, get a good circulation going in your milk; instead of a horizontal spin, go for a vertical one, where the steam moves all of the milk around in the pitcher and incorporates nicely. It takes a bit of technique (and a lot of practice) but you can eventually get something approximating latte art quality foam out of this thing.
I've been very happy with mine. I have a Baratza Encore to go with it, though if you want to upgrade to a non-pressurized portafilter in the future you might want to go up to the Precisio, which gives you much finer control over the level of grind and thus final pull time.
+prosthetic conscience Natch ;D Thanks for sharing your experience! Cheers!
Picked one for myself. What is the usual dosage one would use on this kind of portafilter? I'm going with 16g at the moment.
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Really helpful video. I have one myself and have been playing around with it recently. Why would you say that the steamed milk isn't latte art quality? As long as you heat the milk appropriately and have microfoam, doesn't the rest depend on the person pouring? What's missing from this machine that doesn't allow it to make latte art milk?
Thanks
Thank you for sharing this video!!! It's great and well explained!!!
i noticed in 4:31 that while you are waiting for the steam to prepare, the machine is dripping water from the shower. is this normal?
My machine is almost 8 years old, it's still perfect. Naturally, it was properly maintained, descaled, etc.
There are times when more than 5*2 servings of coffee are made with it...
Do i need to insert the rubber under the single basket when i do single shot or its just for pods?
+Lyubomir „LubenZ“ Evdokimov just for pods
I own a Peomia but am here after watching your temperature surfing video. I ran a few temperature tests on my machine and noticed that when the brew light is on the water coming out of the group head is only about 166 F. After steaming, I checked the water temp once again and it's only 177-179 F. Do you know of any reasoning for this or is it just a cheap machine? Steam also seams to be weak and lasts for only a short amount of time. I'm not even sure how I've been making drinks with this thing... haha
whats the temperature needed?
I've got a question. The double and the single filter does not fit perfectly inside the portafilter, so that it stands few millimeters above the edge: is there a way to clean the filter from coffee without having to wait for it to cool down so that it can be extracted from the portafilter and then cleaned? If I try to empty the filter while it sits in the portafilter, it will eventually come off. Thank you!
For folks with this machine, does your steam wand dribble tiny bits of water even with the steam knob turned as tight as you can? Mine seems to do that more often now.
+Matt Trix yes, mine does, there is a trick to it though, let it run till it gets the air bubbles out of it, (it might take up to 30 seconds or so, but it will clear up. after that, if you keep the wand about 1/4" under the top of the milk, and keep the mug at about a 15 degree tilt, you will the thickest micro bubble of foam of all time. (there is a trick to the foam though, i have barista friends that cant make it happen near as well as i can) so give it alittle practice. I make my own caramel and i will put my caramel latte up against any machine, any day. Its a great little coffee machine, it just takes a little time to get it right!
+Dan Carpenter do you also see a bit of water dripping from the steam wand while pulling espresso?
may i know, does the current version of Saeco Poemia is Gaggia viva deluxe ? i found Poemia but not available
Yes gaggia viva is sae o poemia nowdays
I can't for the life of me figure out why I can't rotate my steamer knob on the side of the machine. It just doesn't bulge in either direction, does anyone have experience with this issue?
I really like what the poemia has to offer, but I did have one question, i'm looking at the Gaggia classic, which i can get (refurb) for around the same price as aroma -- why do you not have any Gaggia products? the classic has everything i'd like except the panarello -- but it seems that it can be upgraded quite easily with the silvia steam arm. and its a lot less pricey than the silvia. for the same price of the silvia i can get the Gaggia Classic AND a Preciso, and still have $ left over to upgrade the wand?
+Munky332 The Poemia is a great machine for the price. We also have refurbished Poemia's available from time to time: www.seattlecoffeegear.com/saeco-poemia-espresso-machine-certified-refurbished To answer your question, we carried both Saeco and Gaggia a while back. But ran into some warranty support issues with Gaggia, and so we decided to focus on Saeco. As you can tell the machines are very similar. Let us know if you have any other questions!
Munky332 hi, what did you decide in the end? I am trying to decide same thing actually ...
I have this machine and I really like it! Someone threw the top cover in the garbage 😭anyone know where I can get a replacement? There is a guy selling one on Ebay for $300, seemed excessive...please help
Do you recomend a grinder for this machine?
+belichan17 Something like this Baratza Encore would work well with this machine (www.seattlecoffeegear.com/baratza-encore-grinder). But if you think you might want to upgrade your espresso machine in the future, to a machine without a pressurized basket, it may be worth the extra investment in a grinder like the Breville Smart Grinder Pro so that you have the ability to upgrade in the future. Take a look here: www.seattlecoffeegear.com/breville-smart-grinder-pro
How to clean that machine.?
Hi, can someone advise, why does the water seep out from the reservoir when I insert the reservoir into the holder?
You need to ensure the reservoir is clicked all the way down. There's a line painted on the inside of the machine indicating the level the reservoir needs to be below.
@@Harvind89 , hi, thank you for replying. I do it all the time and it was ok. But now, there doesn’t seem to be a click and I thought the reservoir rested in holder.
I will give it a try again. Thank you very much.
@@Harvind89 I have another question.
I noticed the coffee does flow out, the machine is running, but coffee does flow out like it was new. I tried cleaning it with tablet and flushing out water, it was ok, but not with coffee. My hubby bought a new head.
Please advise.
@@catherinechia4843 I'm actually having that exact same problem at the moment! Tried different methods and even disassembled everything to give it a good clean, still no luck. I'm on the verge of giving up and getting a new machine.
If you find a solution - let me know!
Thank you I really appreciated your reviews and they helped me a lot !
Great to hear! Thanks for watching!
Guys, what say you? I think this one, even without a very fancy grinder, beats out Nespresso every time... Or, am I wrong and this is in the same league as a Moka pot?
Thx! Would have been nice to SHOW the Crema . What else counts ?
Ok, after a year of daily use, a metal perforated disc, about the size of my basket bottom, has just randomly fallen out of the group head area, onto the counter. Does anybody know what this is?
It sounds like the dispersion screen. Does it look like the disc in our tune up kit for this machine? www.seattlecoffeegear.com/seattle-coffee-gear-saeco-poemia-tune-up-kit
Yes, that's definitely it! Thanks!
Anytime!
@@stephenmotter6612 By the way you lost probably also the screw in the middle in one of your coffee lol
I love your reviews Gail, thanks! And I love my Poemia. I'm about to make the jump to non-pressurized (with a Hario Skerton hand grinder). If I'm just making shots for myself, any reason why I shouldn't go bottomless?
It might be a bit messy at first, but no reason other than that! Cheers!
Very nice review, I loved the tip about artificially cooling down the machine to brew your coffee, I always wait for it to cool down and it takes ages and the milk cools down aswell!
Thanks a lot, I'll probably be buying this machine to substitute my old Viva Gaggia! :)
Take care
Great video. Thanks!
When doing machine review, it would add to helpful info if dimensions were stated.
+Provue Productions All the dimensions can be found on our website. Take a look here: www.seattlecoffeegear.com/saeco-poemia-espresso-machine
I might have sworn you reviewed the lovely Saeco Poemia a while ago.
+Felipe Bazignan Well she does say that they did at the beginning of the video, though the quality of their videos have improved A LOT since the first time ;)
Very well done video, thanks for the information, i just made a coffee with the poemia and it's very good ☺️
Saeco poemia or Breville???
The extraction seems so slow and forced, drop by drop, pretty sure the coffee tastes a bit like burn. Using pressurized filters since a while and this is their problem
thank you for instruction
Thanks for watching!
this is almost identical to my DeLonghi EC155
Not to mention exact same internals as the Aroma and Via Venezia.
Good device, after 3 years the valve inside of portafilter opens only with a slap 😅
Gaggia Viva Chic is simpler than Poemia...to spell and New...why Not a Review?
To improve the taste use the mechanism and Feature of the portafilter. Hold IT tonthe right Limit for 6...8 Second or untill First Drops come Out of the portafilter. Than Release it.
This Gaggia-Saeco portafilters do not have a Pinhole and a Ventile instead.
Same with the Grangaggia and the Carezza, while the Carezza has a Thermoblock.
No model no.? Just Poemia!?
Wtf looks gaggia viva???
$86 USD for shipping to APO ? YIKES !
Waiting you use sae,co, what for