We Have Driven Almost Every Car Built in the Last 15 Years, and THESE Are Our Favorites!
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( www.alltfl.com/ ) Check out our new spot to find ALL our content, from news to videos and our podcasts! Welcome back to TFL Car Chat! In this episode, Roman and Nathan talk about their favorite car for each of the last 15 years! They also rant about car repair prices and reminisce on some of the crazy things that have happened in the history of TFL!
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I 100% disagree with Roman about it being less expensive to buy a brand new car over a used car.
3 years ago, I spent 3 months researching and ultimately buying a replacement for my Subaru Legacy.
I wanted a mid-sized 7 passenger SUV that could tow at least 3500lb. We live on a 43 acre lot and do a lot of deep snowy driving in the winter so 4 wheel drive would be very nice to have.
I looked at many vehicles including Highlanders, MDXs, Durangos, Tahoes, Explorers, etc.
New most of these were in the $70,000 to $85,000 Cdn.
Including depreciation these would cost us roughly $30,000 in total over the next 3 years.
In the end, I bought a 2006 Highlander Hybrid Limited for $4800 Cdn and another $2300 fixing a few things (tires, thermostat & rear brakes). I also just replaced the front brakes for $700.
I could sell it tomorrow for $5000, so my cost had been roughly $3000 over 3 years.
Sure I'm not driving a new vehicle, but it is still very luxurious and well optioned and there is no way I could drive a new vehicle for anywhere near $1000 per year.
It would cost me 10x more to be driving a new vehicle and the savings are so enormous there is no way I believe anyone could save by buying new.
😂 my 2017 Camry XLE I drove off the new car showroom floor now has 200k on it. I drive from Richmond Va burbs to DC every day 150 miles daily .
Only bought 1 set of front pads last summer , 1 coolant flush and 3 sets of tires. Looks great inside and out. No complaints 👌
yep bought my 2016 camry se used and has been a tank and is just right as far as driving IMO. with the way pricecs are I could sell it now for more than what I paid for it.
Roman doesn’t mention that a 600.00 month payment will more than cover the cost of keeping their hoopty running fine. Probably quarter of the cost of new car payment.
Right, that's $7200 in one year. While it might not make sense for all older cars, on a reliable, well-kept, older car. As a diy, half of that amount or even the equivalent could be true for 5 years or more of owning that older car. If things aren't looking great on that buy, you can also sell it closer to the original price than you would a new car after depreciation
@@andrewl8251 my 98 5 speed sentra needs like maybe 600 a year in work
Roman, I'd like to see a breakdown of repair cost vs full years leases in todays market vs previously. What year did an old beater become a bad choice to keep? Was it the same year the average new car price crested 50 grand? You are increasingly out of touch....Dude!
Alot depends on people's financial situation and alot of people can't afford to upgrade because they get bored with a vehicle.
Yes, but many many do and always have.
TFL talk is probably my favorite tfl channel. I enjoy the business side of the car business, and Roman and Nathan make a great team!
Except their business knowledge really isn't that good.
Man, what a watch down memory lane. Time flies when everyone is having fun! I have been watching since about 2014-2015, so with that being said, if it ain't broke don't send it to Toby!!! Hahahahah
Hey guys, congrats on 15 years. I've consistently watched your videos for the last 5 or 6 years. You actually featured my H1 during COVID years. I don't always agree with your point of view - especially regarding EVs - but I still love your family style presentation and journalistic integrity.
I love the conversation you two have regarding the state of EVs and Hybrid vehicles. Would you consider a conversation like this with other channels such as Car Care Nut, Automotive Press, Pickup Truck Plus SUV Talk? I think it would be very informative and interesting. Perhaps even entertaining 😂
I haven't even watched it yet, but I know Roman loved the TRX and wouldn't be surprised if it's one of his personal top 5..
The hell cat version was truck perfection. Really sad to hear it’s going turbo V-6. A step back for sure.
@@shiftymcgee9359 agreed, they'll never be able to replicate that V8 sound
@@shiftymcgee9359straight 6. Not V. Massive difference.
Congratulations TFL on 15 great years!
MANUAL seats & MANUAL transmission is fine with me
Enjoyed the conversation. I have two places that I can take my vehicles to that will not rip me off here in Virginia Beach. One of the shops is across the street from where I work. Fortunately, I drive a 2015 Nissan Frontier that has not had anything major go wrong with it. Only brakes, tires, annual inspection, and oil changes are needed. I get the oil and tires from Costco with free rotations, and oil filters from Napa. My 17-year-old granddaughter, supervised by her father did my brakes in our detached garage with vehicle lift . I hope that Nissan brings back the manual shift when they come out with the new Hard Body truck.
Is VA Beach still bad? I remember, when I was stationed there in the 80’s, so many shops in the Tidewater area were predatory against young servicemen. I learned to take it to Emporia or South Hill (went deer hunting at a friend’s place, so it wasn’t always out of the way). I only got 1 smog inspection in the Tidewater area, and they gouged me,on a pretty new car. Out on 58, in the country, there was never a hassle.
Thank you for a very informative episode 👍🏻
Glad you enjoyed it!
I have an 09 Kia Sportage with manual seats and 3 position manual lumbar support so it definitely can be done.
just an idea, how about a TFL retro channel. This could be a compilation of your greatest reviews from the last 15 years. I would love to see how your channel has grown, get a perspective on these vehicles thar are now used cars, and see first hand how the car industry has changed.
Folks, I enjoyed this show a lot, thank you. I must say I do agree with Nathan in two comments. First, new cars are so expensive it is important keeping the car you have longer and paying for repairs is cheaper. People do not have the luxury of knowing they will have an income for the next five years. It is harder to commit a large monty car payment. Second, I do have both an electric Nissan and hybrid Lexus. Both of them are very reliable. People are not really against electric cars. The charging problems (Taking too long) and, limited range is an huge issue. Also they are more expensive compare to ICE cars. If they have less moving part they should be cheaper then ICE cars, which is not the case today. When the solid state, fast charging batteries hit the market, then we will start to see the real switch imho.
I agree with most of this except “People are not really against electric cars”. Many people are flat against them due to politics and mandates by certain gov’t entities that are making people feel forced to drive something they don’t want to.
@@jamesbeaman6337 Absolutely you are right, what I meant people are not against the concept of electric cars. They are not cheap, they have range limitations, battery replacements are extremely expensive, there is no fast charging or enough charging infrastructure. They do not financially, and functinoality wise make sense yet (except California and some other states where gas is extremely expensive). They are not ready to replace ICE cars yet. Government should not force people or the manufacturers. If we live in a free society, we should have free markets too. I am with you 100%.
There are more people out there that keep cars for a long time than what a lot of people think. I'm on my 5th car in 35 years. I still have number 3 and 4 too since there is nothing wrong with them. The oldest is a 2004 expedition I bought new, it's got 90k miles on it, it's never ever had to go into the shop for anything besides regular maintenance. My other two are just as reliable. I'll buy a new Ramcharger, and keep that as long as possible too.
I agree Roman about things you touch. A key, steering wheel, door handles and window switches are things I touch and when theyre a cheap plastic, it makes me feel like they skip on the rest of the car’s quality. Right? If you can’t spend the time to put a decent steering wheel in, how do I know you didn’t cheap out on things I cant see. Agreed as well on the electric chairs on both sides.
Secondly, I know it probably drives poorly but I love a sleeper… the Chrysler 300 you mentioned at the beginning would be a fun car I’d want for fun. Same with the Pontiac G8 GT or Chevy SS.
Lastly I don’t agree about the ownership. I’ve owned a 2006 Acura TL until 165K miles, 2008 Acura TL Type S for 222K miles, 2011 Acura RDX for 170K miles. 😊
Team Nathan, the best car is a paid off car. Opens up budget for savings/ other important things.
I liked the modern collectibles series when you guys drove the 2001 dark green mustang bullet. I also remember when this channel was Roman Mica car guy
Regarding the Roman rant about why car manufacturers don't use better quality materials and don't include lumbar support. In the past, car manufacturers used to build a full sized version of the interior. I think I heard stories about employees at car companies stopping by the car model and sitting in it, then giving their opinions on what they like and dislike. But at some point it became cheaper and easier to design everything on a computer, and car manufacturers don't build a physical test model of the interior. When everything is designed on a computer, the priority is looks, not function. When I bought a 2016 Base Canyon, I thought it would be a better version of the Sonoma. My previous truck (2002 Sonoma) was extremely comfortable, like it was designed around the driver with lumbar support. But the 2016 Base Canyon has seats that look good but are very hard, and they don't have lumbar support. I have to sit at an angle with my right ear by the headrest because the headrest sticks out too far, and I can't rest my head on it. My only option to get comfortable seats with lumbar support is to buy aftermarket seats for $2000. The driver seat has power adjustment, and the passenger seat is manual. So, to get manual seat brackets, I am looking at old Bronco manual brackets. I don't understand how an older truck like the 2002 Sonoma interior was 10 times more comfortable and user-friendly compared to the Canyon. Everything in the Canyon interior seems off by 2-3 inches. The armrest is too high which pushes my shoulder up and creates tension in my left shoulder. The controls on the dash aren't in arms reach so I must lean forward and to the right to reach everything. With the push back against electric vehicles for me part of the problem is that where I live in winter the temperature drops down to minus 45 degrees Celsius and even diesel vehicles have trouble starting. But the biggest problem I have with new vehicles, both gas and electric, is that car manufacturers are not building the type of vehicle that I want. There are a couple of new vehicles that I am partially interested in but most of the options and packages that car manufacturers force on consumers are features that I don't want and refuse to buy a vehicle that has certain features. My 2016 Canyon has a manual transmission that was only available with a 4-cylinder engine. I like having a manual transmission, but I hate 4-cylinder engines in a truck. The 4-cylinder is underpowered and struggles to move the weight of the truck. You can add a turbo, but then to pull a trailer, you need a second or bigger turbo, and the motor is always being pushed hard. I hate cylinder deactivation (Displacement On Demand), and I hate direct injection because both cause engine problems. Before buying the Canyon I planned to replace the the stock engine with a Vortec port injected 4.3L engine and a Tremic transmission. The 4.3L V6 is a reliable engine known for its longevity and performance. With proper maintenance, the engine should last for an easy ten years and well over 150k miles.
Roman's rant is good. We sold our 2012 Accord LX-P at 12 months because neither the power nor manual seats were comfortable for more than 10 minutes. I test drove the 2019 Civic and 2024 Civic. Honda seats are still garbage even in the EX-L trim. 3 strikes.
Consumer reports car reliability has always been weird. I trust they are honest with their data but there is a self selecting property to it. So those with issue or dissatisfaction report. And those proud or happy may report. I had a 2nd gen Prius that I put 250,000 miles on and had no issues. But I have had very little issues with Chevy, Toyota, Ford, and Dodge over 30 years. 😉
take consumer reports with a big grain of salt, when the 08 altima came out they gave it consumers choice . that's what made my grand mother bought it i guess , or just off the wim .. any how 89k miles roof rails leak in the car, clunks bad and only gets 19 mpg.
another issue 98 subarus have engine good heating /cooling good ...hmm really good . both of my moms subarus blew head gasket. how ever the 2.2 had oil in coolant so that was odd, the 04 had previous work done but always had a vibration.
any how wouldn't trust them fully .
I finally let my membership expire. They were deducting points if products they tested weren’t “green” enough. Seems to ignore any other context, too, like, it’s a dang little lawnmower or blender, and I don’t care, just recommend it by performance.
My $2500 98 5 speed Sentra has been good to me, got it last year, it just needed a wheel hub and since then has been great
$2000 sure dollars with a cheap reliable or good buy (Good engine and transmission) any fix especially if you are able to do it yourself is a good fix likely to last as long as ever. I fixed up a cheap Mazda2 did brakes rotors, pads struts, drained filled tranny and coolant plus other little bits and runs like a dream. It now gets up to 39 MPG (more than EPA estimates). I suspect I could easily get another 100k miles on it
hey TFL guys! been watching a lot of your videos and I am in the market for an older used car, something 150K+ miles, and reliable. Needs to be something that tows, nothing crazy heavy, so most likely an suv or truck. Just wondering what would be your top choice or one of the top choices in this criteria. Thanks, love your content, seems like the Pilot would be a contender based on some of the videos i've watched recently on your channels, keep up the great work!
Geritol was a multivitamin formulated for/marketed to older folks. Centrum Silver was another one that came along a bit later.
Roman is like a grumpy OLD man throughout most of this video. He appears very complacent & reluctant to change! He would be happy with the gimmicky yearly updated models with slight front end & tail end lights, grills etc, minor changes to interior & outdated technology inside that you would still pay big bucks for! I am surprised that you have an iPhone but I would guess your son & friends have something to do with it? Flip phones are still available & trying to make a comeback! I still remember my Motorolas. Embrace the future & enjoy real advancements to the automotive sector that hasn’t happened in years! The OEM’s are finally being pushed to improve! The younger generation is what it’s about. They can help us adapt in my opinion. I know that many journalists are quick to criticize but have no manufacturing experience & no knowledge in what it entails. We are all entitled to our opinion.
I love the new Prius Prime! Fantastic vehicle.
Rav 4 Prime awesome too
I actually like my mechanics. Watching your show makes me more informed when I get work done. Also, I’d rather pay the local folks who own a small business than pay interest on payments to the bank.
Roman goes to the dealership to get his tire pressure check
😂
I had a 16 Golf R. That was an amazing car. Upgraded to an RS3.
You could meet in the middle... flannelgraph 😂
Man times have changed. I had a 92 ranger back in 2005 and went to the junkyard for a starter motor. I think i paid 5 dollars. Pain in the ass to get off due the rust I dealt with in NJ, but cheap as heck.
Maybe backwards California should first consider building a Grid that can handle charging all these cars. Fix the brown outs, then maybe electric cars.
the idea of a centralized grid is archiac..
Amen. I live in central California and a PG&E contractor told me if 1/3 the population all purchased electric cars and plugged them in, it would crash the entire county and then some.
Brown outs? I live in California & we haven’t had brown outs in years! At least in Southern Ca! Many home have Solar& some substations are now battery banks. We need home battery back up
I’ve lived in LA for the past 4 years and we’ve lost power only once for about an hour total. it was a hot summer evening if I remember correctly but the power has gone out much more frequently and for longer in other areas I’ve lived in during / after storms ect.
I actual enjoy these talks. I have them running in the background while doing work
I commute 100kms a day, I want a reliable vehicle, had Hondas and been satisfied but not “excited” after recently getting my Ridgeline written off when someone hit me, I went found an 11 grand Cherokee hemi, had 184,000kms, not the most reliable vehicle you can own, I LOVE this car, and accept it’ll cost more to own with fixes.
What I don't understand is why more car manufacturers don't allow you add features À la carte. I hate the whole concept of trim level. I think it would be so much nicer if you could just buy a base model and just add whatever you want. I don't see why leather seats have to be tied to a bigger screen and a bunch of extra cameras. Also it makes no sense that car manufacturers tend to differentiate trim levels with tech. Tech is probably the cheapest part of any car but for some reason just adding a bunch of low resolution cameras or a slightly larger screen adds $8,000 - $10,000 to the price of the car.
Back in the day(pre 1980’s) you could just about order every option you wanted individually
Lead times and complexities on the assembly line is why they don’t. But I’m with you, I wish they would figure that out!
That's why German luxury features are so overpriced is because they do a lot of a la carte. It's very expensive in the assembly line process to individualize vehicles.
Turn signal stalk and a bunch of other items need to be standardized in placement and function. I hate having to learn a new system every time I rent a car.
I couldn't disagree more with Roman on the value of fixing older cars. I currently own a 2002 Chevy Tahoe with just over 200,000 miles on it. It has been super reliable and still has a ton of life left in it. Even if I had to make major repairs, keeping it on the road has much more value to me than buying a newer one. I also own a 98 TJ Wrangler and a 98 Dodge Durango. Both of those cars have been very reliable for me too. All three are easy to work on. Parts are cheap. I guarantee that I spend a lot less on my cars in a given year than most new car owners spend on payments and I generally have a relatively trouble free experience with my vehicles. I probably have less invested in all three vehicles than the average down payment on these new $60,000 trucks. I love my older vehicles. They do everything I need them to do.
Roman drives a Merc and a Range Rover no wonder the guy has mechanic phobia
That ID Polo should come to the states....so I can swap an engine and manual into it/
thinking regen-ing 30%of your battery will damage the battery, lets see if they can stop them from blowing up
Consumer Reports position on reliability was a bit more nuanced than Roman describes. CR mentioned the complexity of the electrical and mechanical systems but also mentioned that for most manufacturers with the exception of Toyota, the implementation hybrid systems is relatively new tech. Therefore the reliability issues. As with Tesla in the all electric field, Toyota has been a pioneer in the development of reliable hybrid systems. They sold their first Prius in 1997.
My car is going on its 11th year and has been reliable for me. When I had my father's car, it was 10 years old, and the transmission was failing. I traded it in for my present car and it was only worth $600. To repair the transmission on my father's car would have cost me $3,000 at the time. It was not worth repairing it.
😂 great converstion
I love my 2023 Jeep Compass, but I have to ask y'all, what do you think should be done to make the MP a better Jeep in the future?
Audi R8’s are amazing.
18:45 lucid actually just lowered their prices $10k across the board.
all new everything is expensive. they are clearly looking to pay off those developement costs, and that's easier on a high end model.
27:52 I would also say if it's a pandemic related build, it gets a pass.
when it's too hard to even get a car built, much less get all the features you want, I'm okay with some missing stuff. the world was upside down then and the vehicle is a product of it.
I will also say yes, there are some feature (for a given price) that should not be missing. for example, if you are paying $55k for a car it should have a speedo and it should have a turn signal stock. the only reason it would be acceptable for that car not have it would be if it's clear the cost went somewhere else like a carbon fiber body.
29:25 I have taken several cars to 200k miles, (and killed several of them once they got there), but a lot of them also had a head start, and I did drive a LOT (120 miles a day at one point)
30:25 not so sure this applies anymore. also, what you are seeing is "anti-right to repair" manifesting itself.
basically manufactures don't want you taking their car to any place else other than their repair shops to get it fixed. why? because they make more money that way.
it's also part of the reason every car has ditched the double din unit for a screen. because they know you will have to fix it at some point and because so much of the car is in that screen, you will have to come to them to replace it.
32:13 agreed. because a paid off car is the cheapest per mile. also, if you've kept it this long, it's probably decently reliable.
Bentayga sounds like something on the Starbucks breakfast menu.
I might be wrong but did they drop the price of a Colorado zr2 by 1k and the 2023 is more expensive than the 2024
funny how I thought the pic in the background had Tommy in it and not Roman. Like father like son
I'm confused why manufacturers design many AWD modes but exclude them by trim levels. If the mechanical parts can handle the drive mode then include it to increase the driver's safety.
Are AWD modes really a safety feature?
@@jackhammerpka Turn the question around. Is 2 safer than 1? Can 2 powered wheels be safer than 4? I turn mine off, the tires roast if I have to hurry. AWD on, almost never break traction. Ymmv.
I think you are confusing 4x4 and AWD, in any modern AWD the mode doesn't make enough a difference to matter nearly 100% of the time, you'd have to do almost as much cognitive gymnastics as you did in your response to come up with a scenario where 1/100th of a second is what's going to make the difference, nvm predictably in every scenario where the mode is the thing that saved you@@garysarratt1
I feel like those that want their cars to last 200,000 miles plus are those who put double or triple the average mileage on their cars every year. In that case very understandable to want that.
idk what Roman is talking about word of mouth is huge for finding good mechanics plubmers ect
"this 300c is great it's just been vaped in too much"
Solar is far from any breakthrough where the roof will charge. 400 watt roof panel vs 150kw chargers.
I prefer manual seats, I I would swap the manual passenger seat on the driver side and the power seat to the passanger side.
Roman is super disconnected 😂
As a mobile mechanic, most 20 year old vehile brake kits are around 150-250. Add 25 a wheel for me.
And the rant about power passenger seats 😂😂 thats why you have the Option to uograde. Most people are buying a vehicle for THEMSELF
agree fully . is he drunk how can some one actully belive a brake job is gonna total your car?
got a free subaru 3 or 4 years ago only put a timing belt on it and a cv joint, has 305k miles.
my dads work truck 94 5.3 v8 dakota 340k miles , wont quit
@@superfluous2004 2k for axles seals?!?!?! You better find a new mechanic
@@Dankcatvacs Y’all shut up, you’re ruining Toby’s cash cow!🤣🤣
USE TIMESTAMPS
Roman's totally off base about maintaining an old car. It absolutely depends on the car. Simpler is better. I have 2 E36 BMWs. One has been the most reliable car I've ever owned and has over 150k. The other has been a complete disaster, yet has barely over 100k. Neither one of them has cost anywhere near the price of a new 3 series. You'd have to put more down on a lease than it cost for a new head on my 325. After 7 months of payments, you've already spent more than I did to buy it cash. Used means cheaper insurance, cheaper registration, not tied to expensive dealerships for service, etc. The only cost benefits of new is better efficiency and whatever routine maintenance might be covered. For my cars, those things aren't that frequent or expensive, even to have a German specialist do it.
I am my own mechanic, in fact I will be replacing the coils, plugs and valve cover on my 2006 Nissan Frontier xe four cylinder, then replacing the plugs and wires on my moms 2004 Ford Explorer Sport Trac that will involve lifting the right side of the engine with my forklift as Ford left no room to change the passenger side sparkplugs.
Can you not just remove the passenger front wheel and fender liner?
@@RYTHMICRIOT i checked hat the right rear plug is buried behind the heater box.
@@RYTHMICRIOT i just worked on my 2006 Nissan Frontier and it took me about an hour to get down to valve cover, now I will wait for parts till Wednesday.
@secondcreekworkshop3908 ouch, that's generally why I hold a fairly negative view of engineers
How about "Spudge Bob"?
Who is the largest shareholder of Lucid?
Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund
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Nathan is invaluable to TFL bc Roman is getting out of touch with finances. He makes some great points but Nathan speaks “everyday people” better lol.
Roman is so out of touch with the common buyer. Roman is a spoiled rich guy. I'll gladly pay $1.000 dollars for a leather steering wheel come on. That's what's wrong with the cars now a day's. Nathan is spot on.
Hall and Oats "Out of Touch" comes on.
But factor that 1k for upgraded items over 72 months loan. It's not as cringe as the way he was implying it I hope.
$1000 for a nicer steering wheel or $30 for a leather cover. Hmmmm
@@davidlusk435072 months is what is cringe worthy!!
Then why are you here? I mean I see his son & I pass unless it's a vehicle I really want to see. Otherwise nope. Pretty easy
some people need a car to last a long time. Im bored with my current car but cant afford a new one every couple years. we arent all rich like Roman who drives a porsche 911
If you are bored and can’t afford another car, my suggestion is to get another job and you won’t be bored. Then you will have money for another car.
Roman isn’t rich. He’s financially comfortable in life because he works hard.
@@ryanb8736 Rich Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster
Rich is an adjective that means having abundant possessions and especially material wealth, or having high value or quality.
You people who think Roman is out of touch are partially right: he may be out of touch for you, but I bet he’s speaking to lots of guys who are glad to have him as a resource. People who are rich and too busy, not handy with tools, don’t care to memorize all the stats & whatnot, ladies, people who don’t care about any of it & just want something that goes when you want (with a warranty).
Oh, and the way to disagree is to say, “I disagree because etc.”. “You’re stupid”, “you’re out of touch”, “you’re a crybaby”, “you can’t drive”, “you’re old”, these are *abuse*. You offer this abuse because you think just because you have internet access, your opinion counts. You know these guys are not likely coming to your place and getting kinetic when you abuse them. I’d love to see some of y’all talk to the Elmer men in person the same way you comment; you would not say an untoward word, and you know it.
Maybe you should know cartube channels aren’t there for your satisfaction or approval; it’s a business and they’re out to make a living. I would love nothing more than to see video of the TFL guys going to your job and busting your balls, not every time you do something wrong, but every time you do something that YOU know, but they don’t understand.
If you don’t like a video, just turn it to something else or go outside and head butt a tree; nobody set out to ruin your day.
Folks, don’t blame TFL for pushing the expensive new cars and trucks. It’s their job and you come here to see them. Everyone knows new cars and trucks do not make sense financially. There are lots of good used vehicle deals.
I don’t understand the benefit of electric seats…
Nothing wrong with manual simple seats..
my Honda CRX si had fantastic Recaro manual seats….
A car with a reputation for reliability has more value throughout its life as compared to a car with poor reliability!!
You know why.😀
I've been with TFL since the beginning and it was Roman & a woman maybe his wife? Way before Emme and her driving the cars up the Ike.
Waiting on hydrogen
you'll be waiting for the rest or your life
Hydrogen works. There are people here on RUclips that have converted an old pickup truck to Hydrogen. The problem with Hydrogen is volume. You basically need a tank the size of the car to get the equivalent range of your average gasoline car.
Most new auto makers fail because all of the sunk costs of engineering plus getting s manufacturing line going. If they start with their least profitable, most affordable model, they will fail. As we've seen, even starting with their most expensive one still usually leads to failure.
Cash for clunkers has ruined everything
It’s a joke to call any Mopar product , wide body it’s just a set of fender flares . Same car plus bushwhacker fender flares 😂😂😂😂😂
Roman now living on the highest peak of the 1st world for sure! There hasn't hardly been a worst time to buy a new over engineered and non-repairable costly new car in the last 35 years excluding the couple of Covid years.
Do you know what I get out of this video? Nathan is educated, and Roman is opinionated. Who said anything about buying a $500 car and dropping money into it? What about if you’ve owned the car for a long time and you would rather do maintenance or a repair or a fix then buy a new car then Lisa new car it’s a no-brainer I agree with Nathan on this the best vehicle is the one that’s paid off.
I guess when you’re on deaths door you worry life experiences and having to get a new car every year. I’ll keep buying new and keeping them for 10 years. Recouping my $ spent instead of constantly buying a depreciating asset and not save🤦🏼♂️
Most people on your channel complain about not being able to afford the vehicles yet you push your audience to constantly change up do to being bored?
1 Roman acts like nobody buys used? Really? Where do used cars go? To the junkyard? You can tell he drives European vehicles. 2. Toyota hybrids are some of the MOST reliable and cheap to own. The batteries last easily over 150k. They get enough extra miles per gallon to buy replacements in 80-120k miles compared to their gas counterparts. There is a reason camry hybrid and prius are the most used taxi and delivery vehicles.
Roman's opinions on car repair and used versus new cars really come off as smug and privileged. Definite "how much could a banana cost? $10?" energy.
Maybe not a $500 Camry, but a $5000 Camry. Example 2007 Camry with 180K. Can last 300k. You need to have the vehicle checked out. Even if you had to spend $1000 a year in maintenance. Newer cars with a 100 computers are not reliable. I buy and sell used cars and stay away from late model cars. So many electrical problems. Most people are not car enthusiasts and don't watch programs or shows like TFL. Leave the fun and unreliable cars to us small percentage car enthusiasts.
Jesus Christ. The Chrysler 300 was built in Brampton, Ontario, Canada not Detroit.
I think you misunderstand the concept of a podcast. I’ve been listening for about 2 years now or more I can’t remember lol and it’s a great podcast but the point of podcasts and the reason why people complain about the episodes when you guys walk around these auto shows is that many people including myself do not sit down and watch the show but listen to it on our commutes or while we are doing something and that is what makes a podcast a podcast and not a RUclips video.
You can tell when someone lost their car for smoking percs, (blues, fentanyl to you newbs) it's sticks to all the surfaces in the interior stinks. I detail at an auction, yeah those SRTs, get beat up like a prostitute.
roman has no clue, not everyone's got money for new cars every season...
Roman is so incredibly wrong there is NOTHING wrong with a car that is paid off and heaven for bid having to pay to fix it and not have a perpetual car payment. So you have a repair or two in the course of a year and spend a thousand or two still WAY less then big car payments
Please stop with the dude nonsence your almost 60 dudenot a teen
Sir i agree .
It's not the podcast thing that makes me grumpy. It's when it seems like almost every podcast has a large chunk of time shilling for the electric car industry. For awhile it got so bad that I had to take a break from tfl. Thankfully Y'ALL recently got the Tacoma and reviewed a few interesting vehicles without shilling for the EV industry to the point I wonder if your that desperate to act new age modern, or if you own stock in some electric company. I also HIGHLY resent them being mandated and pushed so hard by the government. Let it be my choice what I want to drive. Now if they develop a reliable solar powered car I might decide to get interested. As long as I'm doing so of my own free will.
Depreciation on near new Toyota. Lexus and Subaru EVs are shockingly bad
The Electric Viking
KBB disagrees
If this channel was political I honestly feel it leans more towards the left, The way they support more towards EV's, hybrid, turbos, efficiency. If you ask real mechanics all what these guys claim to be good are problematic in the long run. The Prius should not be used as a refence point to made on the trucks as that is new tech that's uncharted territory for durability and reliability for the long run and serve completely 2 different purposes. Also in general people just don't want to drive these period and I hate how reviewers use there status to sway people to make a dumb purchase because they "FEEL" it should be fine. Remember these guys don't hold cars long enough to care if you have problems with it later on.
Any good journalism should challenge your beliefs. Just because you do not believe turbos and hybrids and EVs are good doesn’t make it factual. Many car companies have used turbos for decades. I personally agree that we’re not fully ready for EVs, but I think TFL does a good job of balancing both sides and staying out of politics. The only time they tiptoed into it was when Fox tried using a video against electric car supporters and of course Fox took it out of context.
Your way off the mark they are very neutral on vehicles politics aside been watching for years.
@@jameypurvis2630 I have been watching them on and off for years as well and my opinion still stands.
Agreed they do lean left
You can believe what you like. So far it’s legal. But what they are showing you is what the EPA will allow in the future. Hopefully the technology will improve, but regardless, it’s here to stay.
I fully expect every car i own to last 200k miles. Anything less is substandard. Brakes all the way around is more than the car is worth? Roman, come on now.....you are so far out of touch.
TFL has way too many channels. Too much going on and a lot of it the majority of viewers don't care about! Simplicity, Roman, Simplicity!!!
Just stop. You're alone in this. If you don't like some of it, don't watch it or subscribe. I like the variety of channels because I like all forms of vehicles.
www.allTFL.com. How much simpler can we get?
Thanks!
If "a lot of the majority viewers don't care about it" then it shouldn't bother them/you since there are so many channels, meaning there's less uninteresting stuff in your opinion to sift through
I enjoy 90% of their content..I have noticed lately that Roman looks as though he just rolled out of bed 😂😂
Wow watching/listening to you two talk about is rough. Stick to trucks and SUVs please OMG 😳