Here's Why New Car Engines are Burning Oil
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- New car engine burning oil. Here's why new car engines are burning oil, FYI with Scotty Kilmer. Losing car oil. Newer manufactured cars are now burning more engine oil than ever and I'll explain to you why this is happening. Why is my engine burning oil? How to stop engine burning oil. The truth about engines that burn oil. DIY car repair with Scotty Kilmer, an auto mechanic for the last 50 years.
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My 2003 cavalier with 146000 miles has been burning oil. A quart every 150 to 200 miles or so.
The first one is the most important
I’m sure Scotty Kilmers brain burns a lot of oil over time
Scotty’s videos are fake
Where can i buy common sense for my neighbors?
Mr. Kilmer, I am not the most mechanically inclined. I did marry a mechanic's daughter (He worked for BMW for 30 years) and I loved him like a real father. He was teaching me how to take care of my cars when he was taken from us due to his alcoholism. I miss him every day of the year. You remind me of him and I feel like through you I can continue the education he was trying to bestow on me. Thank you and I will now binge ALL your old work. God Bless.
Everyone wants to be Mr.kilmer's sons... I wonder why he never mentioned his son's, but i heard he said daughter in law one time.
Ahmad Faris he has mentioned both his sons in several videos. One of them was in the 82nd airborne. I also know he bought a new toyota tacoma.
I worked for rolls Royce for many years and in my 43 year of working with cars this guy knows what he's talking about in depth well done Scotty!!!!!!!!
rick ross big boss Ricky Ross 😂
RR perfect example.....
Jim Clarke You worked for yourself??? Just kidding.
yep
He's a little old school and not very accepting of new technology. Some of it works very well.
I may or may not be a whistlebIower here and who knows how this will end up... But I can say this as a technician at a GM dealership, I 100% agree Scotty and this video seriously should be spotlighted everywhere. Cars should NOT be burning oil every 1-2k miles like I've seen way too often at my dealership. Every time I hear a service writer (or even myself sometimes) say that "Burning a quart of oil every 2k miles is normal for these cars" makes me cringe like when someone is grinding their teeth (again probably me as I hear or say that BS). I can understand maybe a half quart, MAYBE a full quart burned over a whole oil change interval, but NOT in just 1-2k miles. My own personal Cobalt I drive (with a 2.2L engine that is a brother to the 2.4L the Equinox you mention here) gets an oil change every 3k (I'm stubborn and don't believe in extended oil change intervals) and my car rarely burns more than a quarter of a quart during that time.
Worst part is that if a vehicle DOES happen to burn excessive oil (which GM's policy is 2 or more quarts in 2k miles then it's excessive), if the vehicle is under warranty GM doesn't even do an engine replacement. They tell us to replace just the pistons. That's it. If the vehicle is out of warranty and it's customer pay, THEN yeah you sell them the whole new engine. Talk about a backwards philosophy. I personally think it's all BS they come up with to side step the fact that cheaper materials are used, or the so-called "low tension rings" cars have now. But either way engines should never burn oil like that unless they are well over 200k miles.
Rant over. Great video Scotty. Let's see if I still have a job tomorrow :]
It's not a new issue, but you are probably right as to the current causes. I've been out of the repair game for almost 20 years but I remember when Caddy Northstar engines were having oil control problems GM said unless it gets worse than 1 quart per 800 miles it was not considered excessive for warranty purposes. And of course there was all of those wonderful engines in the 90's and 00's with the cold start piston skirt rattle...which actually never hurt anything, but is alarming to most people. IIRC the "fix" was pulling it apart and installing new pistons with Teflon pads on them, fixing the noise, not the issue causing it. I had a '97 3.1 Lumina with the issue and decided that having my new engine dismantled and thrown back together was going to shorten its life more than some benign rattling in the morning. I got over 250,000 miles from that motor, still only using half a quart every 5000-6000 miles when I sold it. I doubt it would have made it that long if it had ever been opened up...
Do the Chevy Silverado engines have this problem ? I was just shopping for one tonight. Then saw this.
Which engine u think is best ? For the Silverado. 1500.
Gcal1956 My 2014 doesn't burn a drop even with 0W-20. The 2014 and newer Gen V 5.3 doesn't burn oil like the previous 5.3 did.
Dale Reynolds Toyota, Subaru, and Honda all say it's normal for their engines to burn up to 1 quart every 1,200 miles. Even Toyota only covers new pistons & rings if the engine burns oil, which many of them do (2GR-FE and 2AZ-FE).
hochhaul 2GRFE isn't known to burn oil. Mums car went 30,000km without an oil change, nothing burnt.
Gotta love this guy, how much soul he puts in explaining everything.
Every time I watch Scotty my car thanks me for extending its life and i thank you
My car doesn't burn oil, it prefers to drip it on my driveway :D
repawnd hahaha
I have one of those too.
Hahaha happens to me
that's better but not ideal.
Oil drain plug crush washer, oil pan gasket, leaking valve cover gaskets. One of those is failing lol
It's like going to the doctor saying you're losing a pint of blood every week and being told it's normal
Best comment on here
jblyon2 EXACTLY!!!! I always say oil is like blood to a car, it runs through everything and it needs it to survive, your car is basically bleeding to death if you're losing a court between changes
Keye T loosing a quart each change is bad? What? All 350z and G35 engines burn at least 1 quart ever 3000
Hm, aren't you losing some blood when you cut/hurt yourself? So how do you think we would survive if we never received blood, and we are constantly loosing it even though you say we don't. Women lose it every month... How many times did you cut yourself? We do have red blood cells, meaning we "refill" ourselves ever now and then, just like we refill our engines with some fresh 5w-30
😂😂😂 i love that one 😂😂😂👌🏽
Engines were perfected by the early 1960's. All the problems with today's engines are due to cutting corners with cheap materials or bad design.
Alot of cars today just have low tolerance. What I call loose engines, combined with ultra thin oil. This is what causes a quart per 1000 miles topoffs with oil. More oil evaporates in less mileage. It doesn't hurt the engine as long as its topped off. It can go 200k miles easy if maintained. It's just folks dont like to check oil, windshield fluid, break fluid or lift the hood at all. I've seen some use a quart 600 miles in. Better gas mileage more oil evap. With every give there is a take...........
Not really, it’s due to stricter environmental policies
@@BeyondLumination yes and no. It has a lot to do with emissions regulations. But poor engineering and planned obscelecense is another huge reason. More bells and whistles, more electronics, more computers, and less manual features. Just look at electronic parking brakes. I've seen many go out. If you want to switch out the pads, you have to disengage the electronic servos through the dash. It's ridiculous. I drive a 96 ZJ, so I don't have to worry about that stuff going out. But I work on cars for a living and even built construction machinery on an assembly line. The government regulations cause issues, but planned obscelecense and retarded engineers are the real problem.
Perfected? Seriously?
I would take a SOHC with port injection any day.
I love this guy, He is just so easy to understand.
Usually if you can't break something complicated down to an audience that is ill-informed, then chances are you probably don't know what you're talking about.
@@Stevenhiggles so very true !
But he hurts my ears! All that yelling and screaming.
@@Stevenhiggles Actually only so many would actually listen to Scotty completely.
@@PsychoFisho try turning the volume down... just a thought
Am I the only one that wants that mini engine model
Geoff grayson right 😁😁
so damn simple and brilliant
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We all do
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This guy is terrific. I like his videos. I am nearly 70 years old. While I was in my early 20's, I was running a number of high performance muscle cars. I rebuilt and modified the engines myself in a service shop where the owner (close family friend) allowed me to use his facilities. These were cars from the 60's and early 70's.
My mother had a Vega 1972 if I remember the correct year. It was burning a lot of oil after about 20K miles. I took the engine apart and fixed it. I had the block and cylinders machined and honed a bit oversized. I had them put in the proper steel sleeves. Got the matched pistons. I put in what they called molly metal performance rings. I also planed the heads a bit, and put in slightly oversized valves with new seats. I also changed out the cam. I put in a roller bearing timing chain. I put on a Holly carburetor 600 cfm 4 barrel. Not only was that little Vega very fast if speed was needed, but the engine lasted a long time because it was driven very easy. I realize if I had to pay for this type of work it would have been expensive because of the hours of labor.
My mother had a 1971 Vega the engine lasted 50,000 miles and had to have work done to it... The dealer did the work... She sold the car right after they fixed it... It was a piece of crap car...
Z71Ranger but you’re missing the point....
My sister had a Vega in the mid-70's. Ran it out of oil and seized the engine. My dad gave her a lot of grief for it, but no one at the time realized how quickly it would go through oil.
Cool
He turned it into a completely different engine.
Nothing is built to last nowadays. Nothing
This statement is true... to 9 decimal places.
Everything today is engineered to break at some point.
Diamonds! 💍 They last longer than any marriage.
I have a tiller from 1975. All steel. No aluminium. It still runs.
I have a truck from 2002. Still runs.
I have customers come in with lawnmowers from 2017 because the blades worn, engines running rough, valves sticking.
Of course you'll have the people who skip maintainence, but when its happening to people who you know take care of your stuff, theres something wrong.
Shabba Ukelele I think most things from 2006 and below seem too last, my little Honda bike still has the original plug, and everything. Not a single problem, probably been ridden almost everyday by me, and it is still running strong!😎
'What's the difference between a lawyer and a liar? A couple of letters!' Priceless Scotty lol!!! 😂
The difference is a piece of paper that says law degree.
It even sounds the same.
@@gregrowe1168 ..yes , it's those letters added to their name up on the office door .
I worked at a Chevrolet dealer, couldn’t tell you how many engines we replaced in the Equinox for the oil consumption problems. The Chrysler Multi-Air engine is even worse.
DanielJaegerFilms did replacing the engine even fix the issue? I have a 5.3 sierra with 40k miles and it burning 1 quart every 3k miles should I fix it or just sell it
Was the 2.4 Tiger shark one of the engines you experienced with this problem?
Alex Parkes buy a Ford
DanielJaegerFilms I will never buy another Chevy, had a 2001 new Impala LS. It started burning oil at 65,000 miles and tranny slipped at 75,000 miles!
Check the PCV system and make sure it's working correctly. That's a common problem on LS type engines.
Damn Scotty. You are truly a gift from God. The world needs more people like yourself. Love your channel. Keep creating great videos. We all benefit.
I have a 2011 Chevy Equinox with 150,000+ miles, burns a quart of oil every 120 to 150 miles or so. It started burning oil more and more after about 100,000 miles. I am honestly lucky I made it this far without any other major issues. My next car is a Toyota.
Same here,I hate my 2011 Equinox and cannot wait to purchase a Toyota, GM is trash nowadays
1971 HemiCuda I have to agree !
I had that problem with my 2013 2LT Camaro I just got rid of it and I’m going back to German sport cars. I’m picking up a 2007 BMW 3.0Si Z4 roadster
Scottie has a video on BMW...check it out before you buy.
good luck this a problem with Honda and Toyota I know ihave a 2014 honda my neighbor has 2010 Toyota same problem .
Looking at you, Audi. Hehe
Ed Morales lol that A4 2.0 t lmaoo It's a common thing with turbo engines too apparently Because from what I understand the oil actually helps cooled off the turbo soooo
Yep. Just posted a story about someone with that engine so pissed off over oil loss he tried to accuse us (my job) for not doing his oil change right.
My daughter has a 2012 A4 2.0L Turbo. It burns a full quart per week. I tried my best to talk her into a Toyota, but no she wanted this ^#*@& AUDI.
chandlersgarage clearly something is wrong with that car than
SK Joseph J. Solomon with AWD LMAOOO
One cause that was not explained is how many modern cars have very lightly sealing piston rings in an effort to reduce rotational friction for better fuel economy. Those lightly sealing rings are allowing oil into the combustion chambers.
This is something that I also read about, so-called "low friction engines", where the tolerances are a bit looser to reduce friction. Strange Scotty didn't mention anything about this. By the way, I have a low friction engine in my car that's 16 years old now, and it doesn't burn any noticeable amount of oil, although it's stated in the manual it is normal. Maybe because I don't do many miles between oil changes. I did switch to full synthetic recently for other reasons, and the mechanic told me that I might notice it burns more oil as synthetic is lighter.
Which is also great for the dealerships since they can earn fat stacks on replacing all of the fouled up catalytic converters.
Ivan Vuk I run full synthetic in my Silverado. I probably run 5-7k miles in between oil changes and it might be one mark on the dipstick low. It seems like once it gets to that point, it stops burning oil. I finally found some pennzoil platinum ultra, that I use to run, and am going to try that out and see what it does. I’ve been running just pennzoil platinum, due to the ultra being scarce. We shall see, but I’m not really concerned with it. It’s a 2010.
aren't they running a thinner ring pack aswell as the lower tension rings?
REEF X mr On some of my previous cars, the oil burning stopped when I replaced the Positive Crankcase Ventilation valve, the engine was sucking to much oil fumes from the crankcase.
I remember when I had a Mini Cooper engine by BMW... it would burn oil and they said the same thing you said, Scotty, it's normal for the Mini to burn oil. Well, I can tell you after it was serviced I put that car up for sale and got a vehicle that doesn't burn oil. Thanks for the explaination on that Scotty always great info.
Ron Consumer Nice of you to kick it off and make it someone else’s problem...
heyitschino lol thats how you do it buyer beware
Yep. My 2003 Mini Cooper S has burned a quart of oil every 2,000 miles since almost brand new and BMW said the same thing. It was only a problem if it burned a quart every 1,500 miles or less. And yet, that little car is our favorite and so we put up with it and hope we get to keep it for a long time.
Just wait until your thermostat goes it's not just the thermostat you need to replace but the whole manifold since it is molded as one piece. The dealer said it was much more efficient that way... efficient for who... oh that's right the dealership... lol. And I won't even get into the stretching of the timing chain or the silly little plastic guides... Don't have any of those issues any longer since I switched to Tesla.
Unless it’s a rotary or a Honda or a 2 stroke it shouldn’t burn oil
Really enjoy your videos! Especially this one. I work for a large scale used car dealership as a salesman (not all of us are crooks lol) and I try to pass on the knowledge I've obtained over the years to my customers about vehicles to stay away from. Last thing I want to do is sell a junker to someone cause they will never come back to me or recommend me to family and friends. Your videos have helped me a LOT too, your knowledge is impressive and I've actually used some of your videos to show customers I'm not lying to them about certain vehicles to stay away from. Anyway I'm rambling, just wanted to say thank you!!! And keep up the good work my friend
As someone that works in the industry, I'll tell you two of the biggest variables played with that we have little choice on.
1) Use of thinner and lower tension piston rings.
2) Racing to the bottom for the thinnest oil (less viscous) possible.
What do they have in common? They increase fuel economy by reducing parasitic drag while trading for susceptibility to burn oil. It's not poor engineering but rather manufacturers engineering themselves out of the problem of otherwise not meeting mandated CAFE standards.
Science dictates cause and affect. Nothing is gained for free without making sacrifice to something else for that gain.
Well this is Scotty, he is here to rant about something, no think it through. And maybe someone noticed: He didnt really say why new cars do it.
Matt - Toyota doesn’t have a problem of excessive oil consumption. It sounds like some manufacturers are trying blame CAFE for their crappy engineering.
@@ClockworksOfGL
No? So there's a complete lack of TSBs or class action lawsuits to support that opinion?
...I personally don't agree with blaming a thinner oils, why? Simple, thinner oil in properly designed engine flows better and transfers heat away more efficiently. Modern car computers calculate the cold starts and the way you are driving, based on that factors they recommend oil change intervals. In my case of 2006 Civic ex oil changes are done somewhere between 7-9 K miles, there is absolutely no need to add any oil in between, and when is time for a change maybe about a half a quart is consumed. Car has 170K miles currently, always only Mobil 1 full synthetic 5W20 used.... Similar experience with V6 Rav4, no need to add oil, and I'm stretching changes to double maintenance required light (which is about 2x4,500 miles) - yes, it looks like Toyota doesn't care about your driving style, it's always same mileage between oil changes. Mobil 1 full synthetic of course...And NO, I don't work for any of them mentioned above ;-)
My Mercedes from 1972 burns also a quarter of oil every 1000 miles, but it has 1.35 million kilometers on it with the original engine, so that's okay :)
After 46 years and 1.35 million kilometers it doesn't owe you anything! But then again that was back when Mercedes were built to be indestructible. Now they're built to be unreliable!
They're built to look cool and dazzle with fancy gadgets, much like many new cars. I'd never buy a car with a sunroof or moonroof either. I can almost guarantee that 100% of them will leak when older. Who wants a car that you get wet in when it rains?
Rico1994 have you tried the "Engine Restore" additive? I've had excellent experiences with it, 30yrs professional Mechanic.
Rico1994, I have hear that about 1970s Mercedes before. Rebuild the engine with new piston rings and bearings, and it would probably go another 1.35 million kilometers. ;-D
Is it a W115?
I have 27 old Honda Accord with 240.000 on the clock and it's doesn't burn drop of oil from one to another oil change. My friend Audi A6 2010 2.0Tfsi is burning oil like 1961 Diesel truck. He always have at least one oil bottle in the trunk.
Nexi Tech tell your friend to just get "Lucas synthetic oil stabilizer" it should help reduce the problem
C.M Thanks man! I will tell him :)
C.M no he should quit being cheap and fix the problem
+Anthony Perez Yeah, he should ditch the audi prattmobile.
i'm driving a good old mazda 323f from 93 , man ... these cars were made to last
What's the sense of all this emissions testing if Brand New cars burn that much Oil🤔
It's all bullshit pandering to keep the crybabies and tree huggers at bay while also handing more power and control to the federal government through bullshit legislation and regulation. Basically like killing a spider in someone's living room but then you turn around and put a pregnant spider in their basement.
Conspiracy lol
The point of emissions testing is to have clean air. If you were around in the 70's you would understand the importance. As far as the oil, it doesn't hurt the emissions results since the cat takes care of it. My old car burned a qt every 60 miles (right before I got rid of it, and the buyer was going to swap the engine) however it easily passed the emissions test.
Because they want your money.
@@michael931 That oil is ruining your cat!
You know, Scotty, as a gear head I really enjoy your vids. Thanks for all the info.
So what you’re saying is just buy a Toyota Celica
THATMOFODIRT thats pretty much all his videos lol
Toyota scion Tc burns oil 🙄🙄🙄
topher which years?
THATMOFODIRT that is all his videos. It’s also like the IMPREZA WRX STI But it’s rarer...
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Scottie, Thank You for your continued help to us DIYers through your decades of experience....
Your kindred spirit to share your knowledge has helped me, and I am sure others...
I really appreciate it, as I have done countless repairs with many you tube video assistance, and yours is always in it as well....Saved me enormous money.
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You have earned your stay , my friend.
I agree Scotty 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 oil should not be leaking past the rings !!! Somebody has their Head where the sun don’t shine , if they believe it’s ok . I DO NOT.
Jimmy Sapien .....lightweight oils....pistons with hardly any piston skirt...low tension oil rings...it all adds up using oil
Arthur Rodesiler
Sounds like a classic case of not making them like they used to.
And honestly, I have to agree in this situation. But after only 1000 miles, a vehicle should never be burning oil. That's just a death sentence for that engine.
Michael Owen, Really an engine shouldn't be burning a noticeable amount of oil until it's well past 100,000 miles. The irony if they are is that's completely negating the entire reason they over engineer these engines to death. If it's burning oil, then it's polluting the atmosphere even more. Between this and problems like the Ford Ecoboost engine design flaws, the government probably should dial back emissions standards somewhat. We've obviously reached the limit of what is possible unless you're going to start casting engine parts out of expensive Titanium.
SgtPiggie corrected thanks 👍🏻
Not making them like they used to: You mean like how they made them so that whenever you bought gas an attendant checked your oil and half the time it was low? And back when you wouldn't think twice about a car belching blinding clouds of blue smoke out the exhaust?
I love when car manufacturers say that as long as their new vehicle burns less than a quart of oil every 1,000 miles then there is no problem.
As long as the car is under warranty, all those pesky powertrain issues like excessive oil or coolant consumption are "normal". After warranty expires, expensive major repairs are needed and buying another new car becomes a more attractive option.
onemoremisfit lolololololololol right oh you hit it right on the money with that one
My 09 Tacoma burns more oil than my fore contour did. I know it doesn't leak because I park it in the same spot every day and never see puddles or drips
Big Dog50001: Agree...my boss has an Acura and lives less that 10 miles from work. They told him a quart every month is normal. Fortunately he had a contact there so they wound up replacing the entire top end, camshaft, pistons, rings, both converters and o2 sensors. He told him it's relatively common in the Accords with the V-6 (same motor). All that labor you'd think they'd just throw a motor in...I have 2 Buick 3800's (and had 2 others previously) and never had to add a drop to any of them. You should never have to add oil to a car. If you do, there's something wrong with it.
silverbird58 radial engines are a different design all together. They even leak oil when not running.
The reason is manufacturers are trying to improve fuel economy at any cost and they are using lower tension piston rings, that aren't quite as tight and allow the engine to turn over with less friction, so the fuel economy improves but at the cost of oil consumption.
Correct - this isn't necessarily a q.c problem it's done to lower internal friction in the engine which improves fuel efficiency
Blame he Comifornians and Europeans, they are 100% responsible for this with their ridiculous environmental laws.
Bullshit, the car manufacturers are to blame.
If it's American engineered, it's designed to make it through the warranty. Considering the manufactures assume the original purchaser will only own it for 3-4 years@12-15,000 miles per year, they only need to guaranty the quality for 60k. Asian imports, specifically Hyundai, was required to cover 100k, for which they responded with 150k, to stick it to American car manufactures that forced the government to impose such warranties. German companies typically over-engineer their engines, which typically last well past 200k miles, with proper use and maintenance. I've had VW 1.8's with 300k plus on them and still going strong. The only weak points were head gaskets and valve guides, which a rebuild is not expensive and labor is easy. I've done them for my cars and for customers, averaging under $1,000 turnkey. And to drive a car 100k plus, without dropping a big bill into your car, is a rare sight these days, especially with everyone switching to turbocharging. Turbo seals don't do well under high oil pressure being fed from the engine. VW/Audi had to put restrictors in the oil line, to the turbo, to prevent the 75+ psi oil pressure from blowing the seals. Some American engines weren't capable of breaking 50psi cold! Chrysler's slant 6 was good at 15psi! My lawn tractor produces more than that, and it's only 12.5hp! Anyway, control rings have been a problem with many American designs, especially the 1.9L Saturn engines. GM released a TSB on ways to free them up, without actually tearing the engine down, for which none of them really worked. It ended up being a carbon issue that caused the rings to seize, most likely cause was the quality of oil, oiling system, and high engine temps. I did one, that scarred the cylinder walls. I replaced the rings, honed the walls, and replaced the head (due to valve guide wear). It came out burning clean and the customer drive it for a couple more years, before trading up to a SUV. Which, unfortunately, was an equinox 3.5L. I'm not a fan of the 60° V6, which is based off the 2.8L, dating back to 1986ish. They've always been problematic, especially since using the silicone in plastic intake gasket with the extended life coolant! They're are many good v6 engines, most notably GM's 3800 series II and 4.3L vortec (based off the 5.7L V8). Ford made the 3.8L, for the Taurus. Toyota make a damn tough 3.0L and 3.3L. Chrysler makes a very peppy 3.8 & 4.0L. The latter of which was originally 3.5L, but was increased due to complaints of underpower. It was, for a time, built at the former Kenosha Engine Plant, which was the oldest automotive manufacturing site in the country, starting production by Thomas B. Jeffrey in 1902. It was the second use of the assembly line, ahead of Ford, and after Buick. His company introduced the world to the steering wheel and seat belts first. They built the first successfully mass produces four wheel drive, four wheel steering, truck. It was bought and licensed to be built in Europe, for the Allies in WWI. It was the most important piece of equipment, that lead to Victory! It carried supplies, troops, and weaponry across the most inhospitable areas of Europe, reliable, and faster than horses. That's American pride! Let's find our way back to that!
Burning oil will also expedite the aging of your catalyst converter. ,😜
Catalytic converter
I have Toyota Camry 2009 with 4 cylinder engine. It's burning a lot of oil. A good manufacturer does not always produce a good car
Japanese auto maker just become real nice car maker in recent 10 years
Camry le me too
It’s funny I watch all his videos just to see him “ring that bell” lol
No one can ring "that bell" that good.
I can make a 1 hour loop of that bell if you want.
Same
he the only youtuber i know that doesnt just tell you to ring the bell, but rings the bell himself first lol
I have a 20 year-old Citroën, 1.6i 8v petrol. It is a modest car but it has never burnt a single drop of oil.
Impossible, Scotty says French cars are bad
My Citroen C5 2.0 16V my 2001 never consumes oil. Alwas at the top notch in the dipstick.
ooooh that chevy vega lmaooo, Scotty can you do video a listing of the 10-15 worst crap cars ever starting from the 70s-current... make the list mechanically based please obviously lol
Keye T Yep. I had a Vega. Worst thing about those was not the aluminum block. It was a crappy head design. The valve stems were too short, causing high heat, which wrecked the valve seals. The valve seals were cheap rubber, not neoprene, so they couldn't handle the heat. Comedy of errors. GM made a V8 block with the identical composition for Buick. That design was so good they sold it to Land Rover who used it for over 30 years!!
Keye T My dad had '73 Vega when I was a teenager. It was the year they were introduced - big mistake. That aluminum engine always clattered like a diesel but dealer and Chevy said that was normal. Body also seemed to made of compressed rust. I swear, on quiet summer nights you could hear it rusting. After one year he traded it in - for a '74 Vega. It still rusted easily but the engine didn't sound like a Cummins.
pretty fly for a wifi I know that's a stereotype, but as a black guy myself who's, replaced a radiator, coolant pipe, vavle cover gasket, center exhaust pipe, and a few bolt on mods. I know how to fix a car. But as a guy who lives in a hood, you're kind of right 😂😂😂😂.
Walt's Channel i did actually hear about the rubber failure ... i just talked to an old guy who said he had 3vegas,, 2 were fine but the 3rd one died almost as quick as they got it !! lmao
pretty fly for a wifi yea i am on a rap channel,, didnt you see your mom in the video!!???
Despite the fact I can't afford a new car from dealership, it makes me sad that these "New tech cars" are just more problems instead of a reliable and long lasting car.
Gabriel Cornejo Right! Some auto companies don’t care about reliability anymore...
When I hear stories about old cars I dont see the difference. The only old cars we still see are those that have been rebuilt or very very well taken care of. With the exception of 90s toyotas those unbreakable bastards, and some other models.
Consider all the old car models, and think about which ones you still see on the road or that work... Its a small amount
Many old cars are collected so they don't see a lot of road use. The ones that aren't collected are driven into the dirt and discarded in favor of the next generation of cars and the cycle repeats. Old cars have issues as well but they are vastly simpler to repair. There is a big question as to whether or not any of the modern techno trash will have any shelf life in the collector world. Replacing/repairing a $4,000 custom computer in the future will certainly be 'fun'.
tgxperience circuit board repair is a thing. But without the diagram its difficult
Assuming you also have access to the correct software. Failed ROM's could cause quite the problem and I'm not sure how open manufacturers are with their circuit diagrams. One assumes there will be sufficient stock of replacement parts but for some limited production vehicles that is always an issue, even from new. I suppose those systems could simply be replaced with whatever new fangled tech is available much like we do with points/carbs to MSD and Megasquirt. If prices get right we may start seeing petrol to electric conversions in greater numbers.
Manufacturers decided to use motor oil to power camshaft phasers, so they appropriately mandated lower viscosity synthetic oil to get through very tight passages. Of course lower viscosity oil can get through tight passages everywhere, including seals and rings. So, an old engine using 10W30 should burn less than a new engine that requires 0W20. As engines age, the difference is even more dramatic since a small change in gap leads to a big leak when using lower viscosity oil.
If burning its oil is there any additives you can use to slow down the process or stop it
So using higher viscosity oil may slow the oil consumption?
Shut up old man...if your car is burning enough oil to be noticable then it's bad...old or new
newer engines arent that simple
After having some cam phasers apart, I really don't see why such a thin oil for them is mandatory if oil changes are done on somewhat reasonable intervals. Getting through the solenoids seems to be the tight spots.
I have attributed the use of thinner oils to meeting emissions regulations. Less oil ring spring tension for less friction, a thinner oil for less power gobbled up by the oil pump, shut off the alternator when its not necessary, take an extra millimeter off of the top piston ring land, and by the time all sorts of stuff like this is added up, you save a few parts per million of pollutants, and every little bit counts.
You Mentioned the Chevy Vega:
I bought a brand new Chevy Vega in 1974. The engine fell apart as you described.
The local Chevy Dealer treated me like I was a stupid kid (which I was) and just stonewalled me.
I never have and never will buy another Chevy (or GM). The Chevy Dealer later lost his franchise.
Oh did I forget to mention that the upholstery and plastic dash fell apart from the sun in less than a year?
Up North, it was a race to see if the engine would blow or the body would rust into nothing first. Chevy sold a lot of Vegas... but try to find one!
My friend 2014 Porsche Macan burned oil. He came to me & asked me "Is it normal to have smoke coming out of the engine?" I used my OBD2 scanner and saw low oil code. We refilled the oil & it went low again. I told him to get rid it of his Porsche because it really did burn the engine oil. The dealer of course like you said, they said "It is normal for Porsche Macan to burn oil."
HA HA HA HA!!! DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A LAWYER AND A LIAR .... JUST A COUPLE OF LETTERS!!! HA H AHA HA HAH THAT REALLY MADE MY DAY!!! THANKS SCOTTY!!!!!!
Did mine too! So funny but true!
So true! If you're not a savvy buyer then get ready to get screwed. Just went to check out a car and I asked whats my out the door price and they tried to pull a fast one. On their website it says the doc fee is 375.00 but they wrote 485 on the paperwork claiming they have the lowest doc fee especially since I live in the city and it's much higher. They can screw off!
Scotty, I was told the Vega engine was actually modelled after Porsche. No teflon, that can't tolerate cylinder temperatures. But Porsche surface hardened their cylinder walls and ran about 40 degrees highet than conventional gas engines, 210f not 170f thermostats. Yes, hotter to generate more power. Except, as you know, the primary cylinder coolant in the engine is oil, and cheaspest new car Chevy buyers didn't maintain their oil the way Porsche fans did. So the difference in the owners killed the engines. My Vega had no oil problems, I kept it fed.
Mercedes also used to burn 1 quart every thousand miles in their diesels, by INTENT. They said oil was cheaper than cylinder wall wear, and their rings allowed for a heavy oil film so the rings and cylinder walls would not wear. I was told that by MB in the 80's.
Some of the most sage advice you've ever given. Do not buy a new engine design! Or transmission! I was recently shopping for a new SUV, and almost every manufacturer had 1 or 2 years after a signicant engine or transmission redesign where they had major problems!
Besides that, won’t the leaking oil cause problems to the catalyst converter ? Etc. Etc..
Jimmy Sapien I would like to think so but I'm not sure on that,, but you weren't talking to me anyways lol🤭😂😂
Yep. If it is a turbo you are building up carbon on the blades, clogging the catalytic converter and O2 sensors with carbon. Anything in the exhaust stream will have a shortened life.
I bought a saab 95 with a blown turbo for $400, was able to replace the turbo but even after the turbo being replaced it had oil and coolant where it shouldn't be and I had to clean out a lot of things like the radiator and the intercooler. If I hadnt bought it and fixed it the car would have been destroyed. It smoked like crazy and I'm lucky none of the other engine pieces took major damage. Oil where it shouldn't be can be a big problem
It did on my '06 town and country, but it was a POS even new, but the wife wanted it (we got i used at80k miles). I have to replace the valve seals.
Jimmy Sapien Catalytic*
Actually it is also a result of decreased pressure of piston rings in order to decrease friction loss and fuel consumption. But it backfires badly as discussed.
Scotty is right on. I bought my first new car a 72' Chevy Vega. What a horrible mistake. Changed my oil every 1000 - 2000 miles and engine still blew. Chevy refused to do anything. Went right to Toyota and bought a Toyota Celica, great car. Never bought another GM product just Toyotas and Hondas👨🎓
What is amazing is that GM apparently didn't test the Vega's aluminum block engine. You figure that if they had simply driven a prototype a few thousand miles, the problem would have revealed itself. Instead, they just sprayed some teflon on the cylinders and hoped for the best. Even though I'm not an engineer, I wouldn't have assumed that a coating of teflon would survive very long inside an engine cylinder. Sounds like a big, stupid assumption to me.
Robert Fowler LOL you gotta be fucking kodding me. Judging a company by something that happened 45+ years ago. Funny, Toyota is the one saying it's "normal" their engines to burn up to a quart every 1,200 miles. Their 3.5 V6 and 2.4 Inline-4 are both famous for burning oil. I guess people should write off Toyota for it.
2.4 was have a recall, after it it burns no oil(piston rings replacement)
+Robert Fowler - I too had a '73 Vega. It had a short life but I have a long memory!
GM hasn't changed one bit.
Here's what I remember about the Chevy Vega oil-burning engine problem. The aluminum block would get hot, the cylinders would warp and the rings couldn't seal. The end result was that oil was burned. Chevy's answer was to install cast iron sleeves in these engines and call it the "Durabuilt Engine". I suspect that did solve the problem, but by then the Vega's reputation was so bad, no one would buy one and that was the end of the Vega.
Love how you help people with problems
I've got a 2001 GMC Sierra with a 5.3 litter v-8 and it has 293,000 miles and has never burned or leaked a drop of oil. The only thing I've ever had to replace other than tires, brakes and shocks was the fuel pump. Still runs like new.
I had a 2009 with 106k miles and it burned a quart every 1k miles. The AFM (active fuel management) deactivated cylinders threw oil back through the PVC and crankcase pressure relief valve into the intake. It was a terrible engineering design flaw and despite a lawsuit, nothing came from it. I now have a 2014 that I just purchased with 18k miles and a full extended CPO warranty. Both have the 5.3. So be weary if you want to get a newer model.
Nick H. Should be as simple as changing valve covers, odd fix but it worked for us. Used to lose 2.5 quarts between changes
My old 2001 is basically retired to light weekend duty now as I'm I.
+Nick H. >Never use any of that dumb fuel-saving tech crap like AFM. Just keep it at default full 8 cylinders and treat it right.
Another thing that annoys the crap out of me is that stop-self starter every time a car makes a complete stop. Freaking wearing out your starter and placing more strain on components for like less than 2% fuel savings.......😐😐😐
Thx1138sober what was you oil change interval?
My 2012 Chrysler 200 with the 2.4 liter engine with only 50k miles burns oil. The dealership told me it was normal. Moral of the story, don’t trust your dealership.....
Brandon Wiley I have actually heard a Chrysler mechanic say that the new engines are designed to burn oil. I was like " you are kidding right?!?!"
Brandon Wiley "Lucas synthetic oil stabilizer" helps that burn
i knew that one a long time ago
Brandon Wiley the moral of the story is don't buy a Chrysler and don't buy a lemon. The 200 was doomed from it's inception
It’s only about a quart every 3-5k miles, but it still shouldn’t be burning that much, I didnt buy the car and I wouldn’t have bought it new, but it’s paid off and gets me from point a to b with some technology(even though it’s been the most problematic car ever).
My 2007 LEXUS GS 350, it burns oil, no spills.. I hope it’s the PCV VALVE! Thank you for the video!!
Good morning happy tuseday everyone . Stay blessed
morning!
Scotty the type of guy thatll spit on you while hes talking. We love you Scotty.
Elite Exposure we should be so lucky
Maybe Scotty spit will help with these junk cars burning oil...........he's probably got high grade crude flowing though his veins by now!
Elite Exposure I always thought he had a drinking problem
I bought a 08 Accord, 80k miles, burned 1/2 L every 500km. I read that the Pistons get cruded with carbon and they stick. So I soaked the cylinders in seafoam for a good 12 hours, extracted it, then did the same 2 times. After I drove the car hard to loosen more up Now it doesn't burn oil at 90k miles, hopefully it stays that way.
The previous owner said he drove it very rarely and that he never accelerated it hard. I think occasion hard acceleration loosens up some carbon on the rings.
TheBaz568 my 2010 Honda Accord 4-door LX-P burns 1qt every 800-1000 Miles and rattles when the car turns on . Some say it the VTC but no recall or class action
UrUnforgettable The cylinder soak method is all over the forums, you should definitely look into it for oil consumption. As far as Vtc tho, how often does it occur?
TheBaz568 it only rattles on cold starts.
I’m looking at the engine rattle on cold start recall and it says all accords 2008-2012. All trim levels. depending on mileage it might be covered
If you haven’t gone to a dealer and have them do a vin status I would advise that for your first step.
A friend of mine bought a brand new Skoda which is a rebadged Volkswagen / Audi car. The TSI engine used 1 litre of oil every 1000km until 20 thousand - this is from brand new. Then they told him it needed a new engine. I vowed never to buy a VAG car after hearing that story.
The Vega didn't have Teflon in the cylinder liners. It was an aluminum/silicon matrix, which was hard on rings. It was designed to be bored and then honed with special stones that removed the aluminum, exposing the silicon as the sealing/wear surface. Few machine shops understood this, and used hones designed for cast iron, which ruined the cylinder wall surface, leading to oil consumption, and in many cases, complete seizure. More than one shop offered pressed-in iron sleeves, which solved the problem, just the bad reputation spelled the end of the Vega. Too bad, it was a cute car, designed to be easily repaired by the average owner. The aluminum/silicon surface has been perfected, and sees use mainly in motorcycles these days. Nikosil (sp?) is one such alloy. Otherwise, great video. Thank you.
schwartzenheimer1 Nikasil. Ford uses it on some of their 5.0 Coyote and 5.2 Voodoo engines. There are some issues with gasoline contaminate damage the Nikasil coating. Jaguar I believe had big problems with Nikasil coatings due to sulfur content in the fuel.
Is that some of the reversed alien flying saucer technology ??? area 51
@@bigtom2808 I assume the flying saucers don't have internal combustion technology, so probably Nikasil does not originate from there.
Nothing a V-8 couldn't fix !
Small caveat I wanted to add. If your car uses a wankel rotary engine like the Mazda RX-7 or RX-8, burning oil is normal for that particular engine/car because of how it works, injecting oil into the rotation of the rotors to lubricate it. Any other car or engine that is burning oil is probably not normal.
Burako Shimazaki he was speaking specifically about 4 strokes. Any other styles yeah burn oil is ordinary
Joe Kyser I know thank you though.
@@tripplefives1402 best ever lol
Basically two stroke concept with separate all system. 😂
no not even close to a 2 stroke
I had my fair share of oil burners, never again. The problem starts at the top table of every company and flows all the way down to the engineering, and quality control and all the way to the floor where you put your money down. If you have ever worked for a big company most people play hot potato and leave responsibly to someone else on the ladder.
Agreed. Bad engineering starts with the executives and flows out from there
A previous 2011 Chevy Equinox owner here, we were 5 thousand miles over the limit in the lawsuit. We drove the car another 2 years continually adding 1 quart of oil every 1500 miles the engine finally sounded so bad we traded it in and my wife picked a 2016 Jeep Renegade latitude and we just received a recall on it burning oil. Should have talked to Scotty first
I really have no interest in these new cars. Most of them bore the hell outta me and then you see issues they have like this and these new transmissions and other crap they attempt to overload these cars with.
The GearShots Yeah I make sure to find a car with a conventional auto, instead of a CVT or dual clutch, I also avoid direct injection, they tend to have some diesel clatter type sound And of course in the auto start/stop , One of my coworkers has a Malibu and his shut off at a light and never cut off and I heard the impala does that too
Keye T my mother in law bought one of those ugly new Cherokees that shuts off every time she stops too. So annoying. I got a loaner CRV a couple weeks ago. Those CVTs are so friggin groggy. I saw the MSRP on the paper in the glove compartment said $25,000. It was a base model with no tint on the back windows!?!?
The GearShots As Scotty once called them, "over-engineered non-sense".
The GearShots On jeeps you can turn it off I thought, I rented a 18' grand Cherokee' And you could turn it off, the system was very smooth on the 1 i rented But it was a rental, I would never buy a car with that, or I'd be turning it off every time I start the car which is a dealbreaker,, And yes it's a CVT that is creating a gear as you drive basically so every time you move the pedal the car tries to figure out how to be smarter than you and doesn't do it well and I don't know why Honda and Subaru are using these things besides the fact they're cheap to make
New F150's have the start/stop too. I guess its something you just get used to. With all the crap the government puts on manufacturers for fuel ecnomy, you end up with stuff like that.
Scotty, do you do all your own video editing etc? You must never sleep ...lol
Dominic Fong or maybe he must of prerecorded prior to vacation
His son does it
O that that would make sense. I need to hire someone...lol
His son does not edit his videos... lmao.
Scotty, you're speaking directly about Toyota's 2006-2009 2AZ-FE 4 cylinder engine, one which was known to Toyota as an oil burner AT TIME OF MANUFACTURE. I got stuck with this engine in a RAV4, and it's now burning about a quart per 1000 miles. Toyota hid this from the public, and the dealerships lied to the consumer's faces. I will never, EVER purchase another Toyota.
bob meoff He should have put a picture of a Toyota in the thumbnail for this video. They are way worse. Toyota even says it's normal for their engines to burn up to 1 quart every 1,200 miles. Even GM will warranty any engine that burns more than 1 quart every 2,000.
my old 06 tc was fine. till I had to move up to a bigger car in 15. never burned oil. all of the parts worked. 120k worry free miles.
I started burning a quart every 800 miles
The Toyota 2.4's with the oil consumption issue were from 2007 to 2011. Different models experienced it in different years. Toyota was (is?) replacing the rings in some if the vehicle met certain criteria.
I'm a Toyota guy but I'd spend some time on Google before buying one...just like any car.
Yup. My '05 Camry has the 2.4L 2AZ-FE in it and it burns oil as well. I have just a little over 179,000 miles on it. The mechanic tells me he's seen some Camrys go well over 300,00. I'm hoping to get close to that mark. I just need it to last until I'm done with college.
Scotty, bought the 2017 Escape 2.0 ECO 4WD in JAN 18 and it doesn't burn any oil, works great, but when I took it to the dealer for the 1st 7500 mi oil change the dealer put 5W 20 in it when it clearly says 5W 30 on the cap. I asked them why and they told me it was no big deal. You got to watch these guys like hawks, because they just want to sell you another car ASAP!
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SALESMAN AND A LIAR??? HA HA HA HA AH AHA A HHAHAHA!!! N O T H I N G!!! LOL
holy stereo type batman. what is your wholesome profession ?
LOL
..i learn that the hard way...make a promise to never go to a dealer ever....no matter how prepare you are you always get screwed at car dealers.....
Edwin Rivera --Yeah but they give you cookies and sometimes a soda too.
Same deal with mechanics in my area. No such thing as an honest one.
"That part won't last another 100,000 miles, I better tell him it needs immediate replacement"
Wow, thank you Scotty, I never really understood the actual process before. That was a great explanation, thanks.
Bad engineering or bad manufacturing processes. Say it but don't spray it man. Good luck at getting the manufacturers to state what constitutes excessive oil burning on your new vehicle.
Scotty's got it right. My son asked me why I had a lower end scanner, my answer was. I'm not a professional mechanic I'm just a house mechanic, and that's all I need and can afford. Thanks Scotty
Hi Scotty, I was surprised you didn't include the Subaru logo. Can you make a video on why their boxer engines burn oil? Thanks.
It is pretty simple, actually. The cylinders are horizontally opposed, so oil doesn't drain back to the bottom of the engine very effectively. There is no gravity assist in the oil control, so more oil simply gets past the rings and into the combustion chamber.
There are a lot of advantages to the boxer engine design, but oil control is a huge disadvantage.
Hello, good idea, I’m going to make a future video just for boxer engines, thanks!
Regarding Subaru engines, I think their FB20 engines were burning oil because of the piston rings burning out. And to think, I was actually considering on buying the Impreza. It's a good thing I skipped out.
I agree with you. I also think that the move toward 0-20w oil has had some effect on this. That stuff is almost just water. It's interesting that cars in the US like Honda, Toyota, Subaru, etc. that use 0-20 have more oil problems, while those same cars in Europe and Asia use 5-30w oil and don't have oil burning problems. 0-20 is only used in the US and Canada as far as I can tell, because of government regulations.
John Specht My moms 08 sequoia takes 0-20. It’s going on 200,000 miles and hasn’t had any oil burning problems.
They know it's not normal. They're just trying to trick suckers to delay the needed repairs until the warranty expires then you have no recourse but have to pay out of pocket or trade it in with them for pocket change. They don't want to be doing "Free repairs" under warranty. Like Scotty says do a a little research and talk with your money.
Its easier to just have recalls than to fix the problem. Most people won't do the recall work if its not a problem. Its not as bad as in the past when cars were known to be unsafe and manufacturers would rather pay lawsuits when someone died rather than make the car safer because it cost less.
Had a 2016 Kia Optima with a 2.4 GDI. It burned 2.5 quarts every 3-4000 miles. Only had 50,000 miles when it got that bad. Kia refused to do anything about it. I’m a mechanic so I changed my own oil every time. Never missed an oil change and only used the right oil. They refused to do anything about it because I couldn’t provide service records. Let’s say I’m a proud new owner of a Toyota now!
certain toyotas are burning it too , sorry scotty
ashley gorman see my comment in the thread
ashley gorman ur right about that definitely seen different model Toyota's coming into the shop with no reading on the dipstick
Personally I make sure to check my oil every week, I could never neglect an engine. Rather spend a small amount on oil and a filter than having to pay a mechanic to take the engine apart because of sludge build up
Taylor Hennesey oil is cheap, engines are not -Scotty Kilmer
I check after it's changed and then 2 times spaced out evenly before it's changed again (low oil consumption).
Used to be the rule was you checked the oil every time you filled the gas tank.
Greg Rowe do u still do this? I need advice trying to get into cars
It's overkill in most cases. Every 1000km is very frequent if you like keeping on top of things.
Short piston skirts and low tension rings...very common because it lowers the 'drag' in a motor, thus able to achieve high MPG and 'spin' quicker. Then the oil consumption starts after only a little while.
New oils are like water compared to even just 10 years ago too. When I pour a quart I can't believe it's even oil. Again, for low parasitic drag and better fuel mileage...combined with low tension rings of course its gonna use oil. I think part of how they get away with it is that oils are also much cleaner now and catalysts are better. Oil burning used to raise tailpipe emissions pretty profoundly but now not so much, otherwise they would be under the gun by the EPA to warranty it as an emissions issue, which unfortunately has more teeth in it than something that is just a nuisance to the owner...
0W20...yup, you would be correct
Improper break in may be one of the factors contributing to excessive oil consumption. You can try adding 10g of the crankshaft assembly oil (which is not soluble with engine oil so don’t add too much) to the engine and drive at variable speeds, loads, rpms and downshifts to essentially do the break in again.
Oil consumption hurts the catalyst and O2 sensors.
I had to pause it on the lawyer and a liar joke, you got me laughing so hard!! Awesome video!!
Should bring in Audi and Subaru engine engineers to watch this vid, when they say “it is normal”. Good job Scotty!
I thought they burnt oil because valve & ring tolerances are a lot greater now days, greater tolerances, less friction which equals better fuel consumption but allows More oil to pass threw and be burnt.
camdog lower tollerances, larger gap between rings and cylinder, but I get what you're saying.
camdog You are correct. I have an a4 audi with the tfsi turbo and it uses about 5 dollars worth of oil for every 1000 miles. What I get for return in fuel savings is well worth it. I have a mate who is an audi tech and told me this. People just can't get their head around modern engine technology. Tight rings against the bore create drag wasting energy using more fuel.
also add very thin oil 0w-20, etc.
WOW--- in 2018 I bought a used 2015 Chevy Equinox LT V6 from a dealer. Its a very nice looking SUV. Leather seats and also heated. Power everything etc.. lots of bells and whistles etc..even decent power ( came with a tow hitch) It was a former leased vehicle with very low miles. I really liked it. However one day I was checking the oil about 3 months after an oil change and saw no oil on the dipstick. I was surprised for sure. I asked a Chevy dealer mechanic and he told me about the oil burning issue. Im not a mechanic but I know an engine that burns oil is typically an older model with maybe 200,000 miles or more. and not a 3 year old vehicle with very low miles. I was not happy. I did do some research before I bought it but apparently not enough. I did not read about the oil burning issue...Then again I thought Chevrolet vehicles were made in the USA. Its kind of thing with me to buy American cars. Nope wrong again. Chevy Equinoxes are built in Canada, Mexico and China...welcome to the new world.... Scotty Kilmer you are the man...keep up the good work...
I have this issue with my 2013 equinox. I’m the second owner. How can I join this class action against GM?
GM recommends using expensive synthetic oil which gives owner the false presumption of long mileage. So I never suspected there was engine burning problem. Because this went on for quite some time, the timing chain was running without enough lubrication. Now chain brackets are broken and they produce annoying knocking and rattling noise.
Not to mention the ecotec engine is a GDI engine that builds up carbon deposits on the back of intake valves.
Man , never ever that I shall buy a GM product.
I know that Scotty might not agree, but I feel even fiat Chrysler is better built than a GM product.
Protect Scotty at all cost!
ok he is payed too. the companies wants people byuing more cars with leaking oil ojojoj
Just stumbled across this video.
Amazing video with a lot of humor, jokes and information!
Great work!
Yeah, scotty you're 110% right about the GM's. The 2.4 and the 3.6 are HORRIBLE. Every time I took the intake tube off on a 3.6 it would almost ALWAYS have oil pooled up inside it. The 2.4 not so much, but it burns oil in other ways. Awful. The PCV systems aren't that great lately...
Jap cars are the best i got Toyota Corolla VVTIL more then 10 years runs like new never give mw any issue
Hey Scotty. Love your channel. I just got a 2012 Toyota RAV4 4-cylinder, 86K miles, checked out. It was 1 qt low on Fully Synthetic oil. The owner says he changed the oil once a year. Is 1 qt low after 10,000 miles normal?
In australia with the equinox and colorado we were replacing the whole engine with a new supplied one under warranty
EXTREMEYAMUM90 Though Holden had a butt kicking from the ACCC to get into action.
EXTREMEYAMUM90 ok and they had bad rings or what?
My 07 RAV4 4 cyl burned a lot of oil because all the Toyota 4cyl engines from around that time had a design flaw with the piston rings. They got sued in CA, and they settled it by offering everyone a piston ring replacement if the car burned too much oil. I got new piston rings at 180K miles, so it's almost like a rebuild. I was pretty happy about that, and the oil was so clean for the first 10K miles of driving that the guys at the oil change place didn't think it needed changing because it looked so clean. The settlement offer is over, so make sure that an old Toyota 4cyl had the piston rings changed before you buy it, otherwise your going to burn a lot of oil.
"You can vote with your money" ha!
Scotty. You're right on so many levels.
Nobody:
Scotty: Heres my 25 year old celica.....
😂😂😂
I love the videos though, I'm also a mechanic
Ja right
That’s not why they are burning they aren’t wearing out.... new cars are using low tension rings, and 0 weight oils. All to chase a impossible emissions and mpg requirements.
Absolutely true. I have a 18 jeep compass brand new 2.4 multi air fiat turd motor. It burns 1.5 quarts every 3k miles and has a 10 mile oil change intervol it holds 5 quarts. My math says I will have exactly 0 quarts in the pan when I go to change my oil. The service manual does not mention that it burns oil I had to find it on a service bullitin on there website after she started shutting off and not starting and had horrible engine pinging at 6k miles. It is a company car so I didn't buy it. The only American cars I buy are Ford. I keep my cars and if it's not Japanese or Ford I don't waste my money.
I’ve read the same thing. I’ve read that it reduced pumping losses for increased fuel economy.
I don't believe 0 wt. oils are the reason for oil consumption, although this may vary by make and model. I bought a 2013 Honda Accord about 2 months ago. It uses 0W-20 oil and I'm not seeing oil consumption, after driving it about 1,000 miles. It has about 130K miles on it.
UK fan here just getting into DIY mechanics, long time car lover. You're one of my fav RUclipsrs when it comes to the mechanical stuff. Explained so well. I'm not a fan of new cars... Gimme anything up to, I dunno, the early 00s and nothing newer. Generally easy to work on and no messing about!
Every crystler product
wingman g lmaoooooo Normally they just burn head gaskets
wingman g crystler ?
I think the Crystler brand went away with the Edsel and the Tucker
The owner manual of my NV200 says is normal that the new engine consumes oil. Incredible!
This is what my 2011 toyota rav4 says about oil consumption, my sister
car is 2011 toyota camry but it doesnt lose oil at all but my 2011
toyota rav4 loses oil, sick world we live in
Engine oil consumption
●The amount of engine oil consumed depends on the oil viscosity, the
quality of the oil and the way the vehicle is driven.
●More oil is consumed under driving conditions such as high speeds and
frequent acceleration and deceleration.
●A new engine consumes more oil.
●When judging the amount of oil consumption, keep in mind that the oil
may have become diluted, making it difficult to judge the true level
accurately.
●Oil consumption: Max. 1.1 qt./600 miles, 0.9 Imp. qt./600 miles (1.0 L
per
1000 km)
●If your vehicle consumes more than 1.1 qt. (1.0 L, 0.9 Imp. qt.) every
600
miles (1000 km), contact your Toyota dealer.
to an extent it is normal for new car engines to burn a small amount of oil until the pistons, piston rings and cylinders run awhile and completely wear themselves into a tighter tolerance, I believe that is why it is important to follow a proper break-in as recommended by the manufacturer. the salesman will almost allways tell you they are broken in at the factory, but like scotty said salesman are salesman. Unless it's a rotary mazda, shouldn't use oil. My problem is with the long oil change intervals on newer vehicles, some engines will be out of oil before it's even due for an oil change
I've had nothing but good luck with gm over the last 20 years. My last 2 work behicles (1500 awd cheve expresses with the l480e ans the 5.3 v8...1 cast iron, 1 aluminum blocked) both had 320,000 miles and would only burn a quart every 2k miles or so. My wife runs a malibu with the 3.6l vvt motor and it does not burn but a couple of ounces every 5000 mi. My silverados have not butned any since I had my 89 with the cast 350 which needed valve guides & seals at about 130,000 mi.
I know somebody with a 2012 Camry V6 that needed new valve guides and seals by that mileage. You won't hear about that too often despite being more common than most people realize. With guys like Scotty, GM will always be a whipping boy while Toyota gets put up on a pedestal.
What year Malibu?
My 2001Audi TT Quattro turbo 1.8L ran great even though I beat it like all hell and abused it beyond belief - all the way to 197,000 miles to when the gas tank cracked. Never burned a drop of oil between regular changes, ever. On the other hand, my wife's 2014 Audi A3 Wagon 2.0L turbo used at least a quart of oil every 1000 miles!!!!! Plus it had 4 individual coils which had a 3-year lifespan!!!! At 94K miles, I got her a Volvo, which has been great!!! Greg S.
The Storage System of stuff in you garage is rather Interesting ^^
Been saying the same thing for years. Don't buy junk products and the manufacturer Wil change their ways. But I still make my living working on gm products
I have an 02 chevy avalanche z71 with 332 thousand miles, NEVER burnt oil. Im working on 500 thousand miles.
I have a 98 dodge ram 1500 with 269K miles. It really doesn't use oil, if it does its not much at all if any
Yeah, Patric, it makes it very reasonable to hang onto autos that continue to deliver good service over the long haul. I have a '91 Pontiac Grand Am with the 2.5L engine and with over 240k miles, it uses and/or pees out about 1/2 pt. between oil changes. I'm a seat-of-the-pants engineer and think they've "improved" designs to the point of diminishing returns, just too much cutting corners for profit. These new designs are made with planned obsolescence and are so marginal in strength - the auto makers now seem to be going backwards.
@@whalesong999 So whats the milage of that car compared to these new cars, MPG or L/100km? Ur a engineer - so think about why this could be the case.
@@leocurious9919 There are several tangents to questioning the comparison of new vs older and mileage is just one. Fwiw, my old Pontiac consistently gets ~29mpg and back in the day when I was using it for work, about 33mpg on the road. Anyway, my experience only goes so far into understanding how the auto industry is doing things these days but what i gather is that these new machines are intentionally designed for a shorter service life and in that life, they will be visiting a dealer more often to keep up the qualities they are designed to produce.
@@leocurious9919 Do you know what "seat-of-the-pants" engineer means? TLAR, or That Looks About Right......, lol.
I'm very impressed that I have a 2000 mitsubishi galant 2.4L and it does Not burn oil and it has 319K miles. Like you always say Scotty change that oil. and keep up with maintenance. 👍