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Not too long ago I've learned about your channel and the "insane amount of work you do on it" (in your own word😂). First let me say that by using just "insane" you are selling yourself short. So far and honest to God you are my most trusted laptop reviewer. Always on point and always mindful for us "the users". So as insignificant as it may seem I wanna say thank you for being on RUclips and doing what you do, and I wish you all prosperity and success. Second I have a small suggestion! It would be awesome if you could make a video on ryzen laptops (best for each price class, and best overall), also do you think that people should wait for nex gen in perspective to (normal flow users, producers, coders, and heavy users). Thank you Stay safe.
Hi. Firstly thank you very much. I mean that. Secondly, I actually did alot of Ryzen laptops last year. I'd say the best ones are Lenovo Slim 7 Pro, Lenovo Legion 5, HP Omen. The Ryzen 5000 CPUs are taking time to come in, that being said I do have a Asus G15 sitting next to me that will be the next one I do :)
I cannot believe that you only have 100k subs, the production quality of this video is so good, that I genuinely thought you would have at least had a couple million subs. I was surprised to see so few. Keep up the fantastic work man!
I agree that 100+k subs doesn’t make this channel justice, but on the other hand he’s only about a year on RUclips. 100k subs in a year is a lot, not just for a tech reviewer!
I have an older version of the Envy 13 I got 3 years ago. It’s been super fast, super quiet and super reliable. And it was reasonably priced too! This HP Envy line is really a hidden gem!
Great review and thanks for going extra miles to clarify the myths about the processor performance. Notebookcheck also confirmed same about the i5 model of this laptops, beating i7 in other Ultraportables. In other Ultraportables, going for i7 may be due to having the 96EU version of the XE Graphics, but for this, sticking with i5 is the best choice since this having a dedicated GPU.
You make me feel good about my recent choice. Envy x360 15 with the 12th gen i5, 16gb ram, 1tb ssd, 1440 screen, with a 4gb gpu. I feel like it maximizes performances all around at a budget price and not overheating like a more powerful setup.
After watching hundreds of tech reviewers across youtube, Josh is the MOST DETAILED and HONEST tech reviewer! Keep it up Josh! The tech community is counting on you❤️
Seems suitable for an all round home office machine, probably even for a learn from home setup. However I must agree that it's price is a bit on the high side and as you mentioned gaming laptops from HP themselves can be a better deal.
In my opinion any review of a laptop with a screen resolution taller than 16x9 should include an assessment of the readability of alphanumeric characters. I know this almost must be subjective, but Josh's report of the number of Excel lines he could comfortably read (about 7:50) was as valuable a metric as I've heard. I went through this part of the video three times. Subscribed.
@Josh - Thanks for the content & details, as always! To answer your question: This laptop is for people like me who want something more portable and stylish than a 15" battlestation, who need an outdoor-capable screen, good battery-life, a microSD card slot, and want slightly better performance than Intel XE graphics (or way better performance than Vega integrated graphics), for light gaming and RUclips content creation. Since 13-14" AMD thin-and-light laptops are nearly unobtainable right now, this HP Envy 14" is pretty darned close to ideal - for me, if no one else! I actually *love* almost everything about the Razer Book 13 I just picked up, _except_ the Razer's keyboard is terrible! Shallow key travel with a mushy bottom and if you don't hit the keys in the middle, they don't register. It ruins an otherwise *incredible* laptop with amazing build-quality! (The only other bummer is its lack of dedicated GPU)
I´ve got my HP Envy 15" last year and am pretty happy with it. Large, light, touch screen, at a very good price with Walmart - CA$1400 bucks. Big upgrade and relief for everything I do.
Hey Josh I’m all the way from Africa Zimbabwe and your reviews have been magnificent. Recently bought an Hp pavilion 15 cs 10th gen and thanks to your channel review 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
As someone who is really interested in this laptop for general personal use as their "main" personal computer, I think I can help you with the question "who is this laptop for?" I think, while there is nothing this laptop is "the best" at (other than maximizing the performance of an i5, wow!), it is an extremely solid all arounder. I want good battery life. I want a dedicated GPU for heavy gaming, on lower settings if I have to but I can squeeze in a lot more games on a 1650 than on integrated graphics. I want light weight. I want a 16:10 screen. I want good I/O. -The Specter has a taller screen and a lighter weight, but its port selection is very limited! -The macbook pro has better battery life, but way fewer games will run on it (also port selection is even worse). -The Omen and the Envy 15 have better graphics performance, but are a lot bigger. -I think the Zephyrus G14 is the most comparable competitor, so I can understand someone wanting to go for it instead. Similar size, with a lot more graphics performance. But it has no webcam! I kinda expect my main laptop to have a webcam, I gotta call my parents and stuff, you know? Also I'm pretty sure you can't charge it off of USB-C which is a huge minus in my book. Also no thunderbolt but that's less specifically important; I'm fine with regular USB-C *if* it supports displayport alt mode and power delivery. Thunderbolt is nice because it guarantees those things -System76 sells the Galago Pro which is very similar, except with more ports (ethernet! 2 USB-Cs!) and Linux by default (you could install Windows though, nothing's stopping you). Unfortunately I think they are having supply problems, and are having trouble fulfilling the configuration with the 1650. Also its battery is smaller. It's technically a Clevo chassis, but good luck finding other sellers of it. I will definitely *envy* those RTX 2060 GPUs though. I wanted to hold out for a 3050 or 6500M (and Wifi 6e!) but ran out of patience when my 5 year old laptop started impacting my job interviews
I know it's already been said, but Josh actually gives you the details you want to hear rather thank being sold some crappy computer. Keep up the great work Josh
Your review is exhaustive. if I'm looking for a laptop, I just need to watch your video and presto, I can already make an informed decision. thank you for raising the bar for reviews Josh
From an value standpoint I totally agree with you regarding i5 vs i7. Regarding performance though I want to add my two cents: the idea behind the Tiger Lake i7 is that its able to deliver better performance because it can achieve higher frequencies while using the same power as the i5. Of course, if one lowers power, because of insufficient cooling or other reasons, the result may be an i5 clocking higher than an i7. With the same cooling however the i7 should be able to sustain higher frequencies. Thats because in general i7 get the better quality silicon dies, the ones that are less capacitive and therefore need less voltage to achieve a given frequency. So im curious on what frequencies the i7-1165G7 and i7-1185-G7 would run inside a Laptop that can cool 42 W sustained . I would expect them to run at the advertised 4,1 GHz or 4,3 GHz sustained, which in CB 20/23 equals 4,1/3,8 = 1,08 or 4,3/3,8 = 1,13 the score of the i5. At the time of writing I wasnt be able to find any reviews for the Envy 14 i7-1165G7 unfortunatly.
Josh deserves a shout out. I haven't seen more such tech reviewer addressing what issues they face in day-to-day performance and tasks. Just like any competition, RUclips has turned into a rat race - priortizing montization over information. Just posting a video same day they got their hands-on to a device. Being a tech enthusiast, who watches reviews and tech videos for entertainment. Thank you for keeping your viewer well-informed. 😊 Kudos to you, man. Keep up the good work! ❤️
Josh, this is a great review but for some of us there is a dealbreaker I think you didn't mention. The right ctrl key is removed, replaced by the fingerprint reader. Some of us actually use that key, especially among left handed users. I would not even be able to comfortably zoom with the scroll wheel using this laptop. I was about to buy it, thankfully I noticed this problem before hitting order.
7:15 screen flashing different colours how did you do that? In my new hp aero 13 the same thing is happening n I do not know the solution to it .. plz hlp
Hey Josh, there’s a good reason Intel charges more for the i7 versions, and that reason is binning. i7 chips are generally no different than the i5 chips, except the i7 chips hit better core clocks at a given voltage, because of the higher quality binned silicon. So going for an i7 would still give you a good ~200MHz boost without increasing the power consumption of the chip.
I would really appreciate some help and advice here. I'm having an extremely hard time deciding on a laptop to buy. My budget is $1500 - $2000 though I'm willing to stretch it a little more if I see more value. I don't play any games whatsoever. I use photoshop a lot and recently I have been interested and learning to do some video editing and audio production with Adobe Premiere Pro and Adobe Audition. Everything works fine on my current laptop except for Premiere Pro which won't even run. It would also be nice if Photoshop and my audio production software would run faster. I currently have an Ultrabook 2-in-1 with touch screen (Dell Inspiron 13 7378, 2018 version) and it's very outdated for me and just doesn't meet my needs any more with it's integrated Intel UHD 620 GPU. You have to understand I didn't even pick this laptop to buy it was simply a $400 bargain 2 years ago in a brand new condition and I just ended up liking it until I started looking into video editing. I don't want to invest in a desktop setup now since I move a lot, a laptop is a must for me. Last year I was very excited about Huawei Matebook Pro X (2020 version) and I'm so glad I didn't buy it! But then I got excited about the new Dell XPS 15 model with touch screen and GTX 1650 Ti until Nvidia announced their RTX 3000 series so I decided to wait for the new laptop models with the new GPUs. The dilemma I have right now is this: 1- My laptop is not good enough for my needs by any means, I have been waiting for quite sometime now but I need to buy a better performing laptop sooner than later. 2- I use the touch screen on my laptop quite a lot, the tablet mode and being able to flip the screen 360 degrees isn't very important, but I got very used to a touch screen that I'm just having a hard time accept a laptop without on. 3- I considered XPS 17 9700 with RTX 2060 and I love that device, except I don't feel comfortable spending over $3k which is a lot over my budget and I still won't be getting the RTX 300 series. 4- It's really hard to find a laptop that fits these needs. I have recently been interested in the Zephyrus G15 GA503. Yet grew disappointed because of the soldered ram slot (I understand I'll need to upgrade the ram to get a better video editing experience) and the lack of even a bad webcam to be used while in transit in an airport for example. The lack of touch screen isn't a big issue though. 5- I have considered Asus flex 13x but I don't like the proprietary eGPU I understand I'm comparing apples to oranges when I put tiny sleek Ultrabooks side to side with Performance gaming laptops. I'm just lost between the two. I don't care about FPS since I'm not a gamer. but I need a good display in a sleek portable laptop. What are my options and what're you suggestions? Should I get something of what's available now? (and what would that be?) or should I wait a bit more for new things that might come out soon? (Will Dell even make a new XPS with RTX 300 series this year?) Thank you for reading and for any replies in advance!
OMG yuh n me are exactly in same situation.. im olso hving dell inspiron 3148 which is dell 2 in 1 since 2015. Although i hv i7 7700 in my desktop but it is wdout gpu. im in dilemma whether to buy a discrete gpu or laptop with a gpu and touchscreen. if i bought the gpu which are hardly available and hella expensive . i wont b able to buy tge good laptop.
@@CaptainScorpio24 I guess what I'm really hoping/waiting for now is for Dell releasing a new XPS with the same design of last year just putting in an RTX 3000 in it, even if it's a RTX 3060 Max Q. This would do it for me! The only problem is that I'm not sure if Dell will do that or not, though it's very likely, and I'm not sure when would that be and how much would they price it for either.
Hey Josh ! I'm actually searching a new labtop for many differents usages like gaming (only eSports game like League of Legend and Rocket League), video editing sometimes and all day usage (web, video and office pack) that have at least one day battery life. But I have only 1000€ budget. What PC do you recommend between Mac book air M1, HP Pavillion 14 with all options, or wait for the Lenovo slim 7 Pro ? Thank you for your videos which are wonderful and sorry for my bad English I'm french😅
5:59 You said that Omen 15 4800H 1660ti struggled to edit your video. -How is Envy 15 perform, compared to the Omen 15 on the same task? (already noticed you use 1650ti) -Suppose you get the same GPU, which one would you prefer for video editing? Can you please explain the reasons?
Honestly, the best tech reviewers are Just Josh, David2D, and Mrwhosetheboss. They all spend so much time making these videos, and I can just see that they poured their soul for their viewers. I know there are probably other awesome tech reviewers that I have not mentioned, but as of right now, these 3 are my favourite.
So it's been a while and now this laptop is out there for $950 with all your specs plus except 512 gigs on the SSD. Would that make this a better buy than the Acer Swift X?
I was told in a review of the Dell Inspiron 5510 that the Intel Iris Xe Graphics can handle 4K Video Editing. I tried it and it was pretty much unusable. This is why I like honest reviews like this. Keep up the good work Josh. 😊
Hey josh, love your reviews, they give stats i really need as i game and program, im thinking of getting the omen 15 ryzen 7 4800 rtx2060, should i get it or wait for a ryzen 5000 one. And is this envy 14 a good option against the omen 15?
The Lack of dark keycaps with high contrast lettering is a deal breaker for me on so many HP laptops. I cannot understand how they have allowed this to be as it is for so many iterations. Ive bought Elitebooks over Spectre models to avoid this. Your comments ref i5 vs i7 are really great - thank you!
Josh, you honestly make the best reviews for laptops I've seen on my latest rabbithole for buying a new laptop. Keep up the great work. Cheers from Germany!
I just feel so welcomed every time I see your videos. They are so much informative and helpful too. I'm wanting to buy a laptop for programming within few months. Glad I know someone whos video will be of help
hey josh, what do you think of the Huawei matebook 14. i mean from what i can read it has everything, 4800h, a 2160x1440 400 nit display, only down side is that it has an integrated vega 7 gpu and no upgradable ram(il be using it for programming and no video editing or gaming), I just have a weird feeling about it thats why im waiting, i found no reviews on the laptop and thought that you might be able to help. also thank you so much for the videos man, I honestly learned a lot from you so please continue the great work.
Your reviews are easily the best I've seen on RUclips for laptops. I'll be buying a new laptop in the summer and honestly I'm happy trusting your recommendations with my money.
I am looking for an affordable 14 inch 16:10 windows ultrabook with i5 or ryzen 5 and 8 GB ram with black keys (to eliminate lack of contrast) and good speakers and battery life. Any suggestions?
I for one would love to see how you setup your laptop's and what settings/tricks/tips/apps/mods you use to get the most out of them! Keep up the great work as always Josh! Your killing it right now! Hardest working (and my favourite) RUclips in the tech space! 🔥
I dont know if you can get your hands on one, but a review of the Lenovo Ideapad (Yoga) Slim 7 13ITL5 would be interesting, because its really different to the other slim 7s, it has a 16:10 QHD Display! The other product i would like to see reviewed is the Lenovo ThinkBook 14s Yoga, especially the cpu perfomance
Partially agree. The thing is that as the technology evolves and competition rises, so does the quality of the technology, both in terms of performance and efficiency. Fierce competition drives the price down, everybody wins. That's free fucking market, baby.
Hi Josh, I also commented on one of your reddit post re tiger lake laptops and external display refresh rate. I have a LG 38wn95c-W (3840 x 1600) and would like to get a laptop that can take advantage of the monitors high refresh rate (144Hz). This has ruled out the lenovo yoga 14s / slim 7 pro (AMD) since it does not have thunderbolt. I am deciding between the intel version of slim 7 pro or the envy 14, but I am also reading various reports of various tigerlake having issues with high res/refresh rate. Is there acually an output limit with the tiger lake cpu / iris graphics card? I am based in Australia, so will be ordering overseas (US or China) which makes it nearly impossible to return the item if there is any issue. Your help is much appreciated.
Hi Josh- I’m not tech savvy so plz pardon me. I’m buying a spectre 13.3. Are you saying for a savings diff of $230, Id be smarter to buy the i5-1135 w/ 8gb RAM, rather than the i7-1165 w/16gb RAM? I’m a casual user- no editing or gaming. I just want a fast laptop, for surfing and RUclips/Netflix, and love the smaller form factor and 16:9 aspect ratio. I had ordered the i7 because it was the only way to get 16 RAM, & thought the i7 would also be better in general. Will I notice any real difference? Or should I change to the i5 /8gb RAM and save $230? Would you order 512 SSD w or w/o the 32gb Optane ? Thanks! I Love your channel! BC in Texas
Josh, thank you for your reviews! I've not educated myself in the tech world as my focus has always been elsewhere - so it's been helpful to jump into your channel and get a better idea of what to look for. That being said, I'm looking for a laptop that is 'good enough' for editing photos and some video - but on a budget. ($8-900 range) I've been leaning toward the HP envy 14 for a few weeks (why I watched this review), but am curious if you'd choose a different laptop for the job. I'm a hobbyist, not a professional. I appreciate your time and am aware that these open forum comments don't always receive responses - in which case, I've been gleaning from your expertise within videos you've shared. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us!!
Hey Josh, how do you think this compares to your video "i5 vs i7" where you compare 2 Dell XPS's? I confess I'm a little confused after watch this video, because they are very different perspectives. For example, I want to buy an Ideapad 5i and I can't decide whether to choose the i5-1135G7 or pay +110$ for the i7-1165G7. To which opinion should I listen to? The one on the "i5 vs i7" video or this one? I'm sorry for all the confusion... I apologize in advance. (Josh, or someone else, please help me out)
I'm in exactly the same situation as you. I was about to order the Envy 15 but then realized the inconvenience of not having the ability to charge via usb-c. So now I'm thinking of getting the Envy 14.
I just recently found Josh and love his channel...I'm still struggling as far as what laptop is best for me...I'm a senior and don't know which product will be right for me...I need a simple set-up with a good camera for senior gatherings and virtual appointments..
For most laptops the cameras are really bad. The laptop lid is so thin (much thinner than even a smartphone) that there is very little in the way of optics to fit in it. A cheap Logitech or Microsoft usb webcam will improve the situation a lot. So basically you can pick any laptop you like with an usb port or two and just add the webcam to the purchase list. That being said: some laptops are less bad than others with the webcams (none are good). I unfortunately do not know a list for those.
I guess I'm just confused on why you spend a whole beginning part of the video talking about how good the i5 variant is with it's cpu performance, but then at the end when you are mentioning who it's for you use a picture with the i7 variant selected (even though you've mainly been talking about the i5 one) and say if it were around 1,200$ you'd recommend it. But the one with the i5 is 1,250$ Is there a reason for doing it this way?
You are brutally honest! I appreciate the Ubuntu and Fedora run. Not to be too demanding, if you can cover Arch base and Opensuse it will be very helpful. Maybe if you have the time, just a video on Linux support alone would be great.
So what did you said for a student that works most of the time with excel, but want to play some minor games ( FM,Fortine), The i5 with the dedicated GPU, or the i7 with the Xe gpu?
hi Josh, I'm a .Net programmer using Visual Studio 2019. Is this laptop enough for 3-4 years good use? or better off to more processing core like ryzen 4800h laptop?
Hey Josh - I have been searching for this video and found it again finally. How does this data make you feel about the Envy 15 in 2022? I have been eager to hear any updates from you.
guys I am looking for a laptop for my father. I found the IdeaPad 5 with ryzen 4800u and 16gb of ram, but I am a little concerned about the fact that it's all plastic and it seems very big and bulky compared to other laptops like matebooks, do you know if it's comfortable to use?
Is this Envy suitable for an architecture student? I am planning to use a desktop for heavier workload, but the CAD models aren't that complicated yet: lots of students are using a similar or less expensive notebook such as the Asus Vivobook instead of a workstation.
Im looking for a good laptop to run animation and illustration programs with a separate digital drawing tablet. Im just trying to find a good laptop to draw with. Do you have any suggestions? I also would like to use it for gaming at times.
awesome review. it was pleasing to hear the no nonsense analysis of the cooling solution viz the other laptops on the market. i particularly appreciated the "who is this for" section to justify why such a good laptop was difficult to recommend. subbed
Hi. Love your reviews. Absolutely on point. I want to buy a laptop for work (multitasking), please advice if the HP Pavilion 14 dv0058tu fits the category. What are the pros and cons....Thanks!
I know most people won't do this but I find that beefing up the power delivery and cooling system does wonders for getting a more sustained power out of these laptops. Often manufacturers cheapen out on not just things like heatpipes, that's bad enough but cooling over rectifiers and thermal grease. Something that is so cheap it's almost questionable of why. Yet they do it and often.. Even on an expensive device like the XPS or Latitude 7400 series Dell has cheapened out the cooling. So but why do it even if your not worried about say maximum performance? Easy. Maximum battery life. The hotter rectifiers get the more fans will turn on just like with the cpu thus eating in to precious battery life and yes lowering your performance to meet certain theasholds. This could cost hours of battery life in the long run. Just something as simple as reapplying thermal paste can make a huge difference. Best of all it's cheap. Thermal pads are pretty cheap as is thernal paste. Beefing up a cheap copper cooler is fairly cheap too just that one takes soms research and know how. I certainly don't recommend you just start opening up your laptop if you don't know what your doing anyway. So if what I am saying interests you please research it a little first.
Josh i a have a question, i bought the hp envy 15 with the huge 80 whathour battery and 1080p display but I can only get between 6 and 7 hours at the lowest brightness settings. I thing It doesn't make sense i believe It should last longer. Do you think I could do some kind of optimization?
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Josh is the only one who actually does a review. I really don't find anyone else bringing real value to the table.
He's amazing, yes
Techno Panda is also good
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@@prateekpankaj7889 for sure at least the panda doesn’t convince you to buy an i5 for 1000$
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Just Josh, Lisa (MobileTechReview), Dave2D, Matthew Monitz, Andrew Marc David, and The Tech Chap. They're all awesome reviewers.
Not too long ago I've learned about your channel and the "insane amount of work you do on it" (in your own word😂).
First let me say that by using just "insane" you are selling yourself short.
So far and honest to God you are my most trusted laptop reviewer. Always on point and always mindful for us "the users". So as insignificant as it may seem I wanna say thank you for being on RUclips and doing what you do, and I wish you all prosperity and success.
Second I have a small suggestion! It would be awesome if you could make a video on ryzen laptops (best for each price class, and best overall), also do you think that people should wait for nex gen in perspective to (normal flow users, producers, coders, and heavy users).
Thank you
Stay safe.
Hi. Firstly thank you very much. I mean that. Secondly, I actually did alot of Ryzen laptops last year. I'd say the best ones are Lenovo Slim 7 Pro, Lenovo Legion 5, HP Omen. The Ryzen 5000 CPUs are taking time to come in, that being said I do have a Asus G15 sitting next to me that will be the next one I do :)
@@JustJoshTech thanks 👍 really helpful!
Can't wait for the G15 review.
He looks like the tech version of Harry Potter!
I need the scar
@@JustJoshTech yeah only that is missing.
He is the Chosen One.
oh wow
@Laura Brown shut up
As a developer, I really appreciate that you always test compile times, database queries etc. and not just video export times for your benchmarks.
I also like this. Plus Linux compatibility test is huge help.
@@ChetanKhilosiya yep
Should I get this one for coding? As a Cs student?
I cannot believe that you only have 100k subs, the production quality of this video is so good, that I genuinely thought you would have at least had a couple million subs. I was surprised to see so few. Keep up the fantastic work man!
I agree that 100+k subs doesn’t make this channel justice, but on the other hand he’s only about a year on RUclips. 100k subs in a year is a lot, not just for a tech reviewer!
I only even consider buying a laptop after a Josh review
'We've BEEN RIPPED OFF FOR YEARS!!'
that's basically Intel for the past couple of years until AMD stepped up their game
Competition is a wonderful thing
AMD was king before
@@chriswright8074 Never on laptops. Ryzen 4000 was the first time they released a seriously compelling product line on the laptop market.
The 4000 line up is killing it.
@@kabosumamadoge1818 until your cpu dies lol
I have an older version of the Envy 13 I got 3 years ago. It’s been super fast, super quiet and super reliable. And it was reasonably priced too! This HP Envy line is really a hidden gem!
I’m thinking of getting an Envy 13. How long does the battery last?
Great review and thanks for going extra miles to clarify the myths about the processor performance. Notebookcheck also confirmed same about the i5 model of this laptops, beating i7 in other Ultraportables. In other Ultraportables, going for i7 may be due to having the 96EU version of the XE Graphics, but for this, sticking with i5 is the best choice since this having a dedicated GPU.
You make me feel good about my recent choice. Envy x360 15 with the 12th gen i5, 16gb ram, 1tb ssd, 1440 screen, with a 4gb gpu. I feel like it maximizes performances all around at a budget price and not overheating like a more powerful setup.
After watching hundreds of tech reviewers across youtube, Josh is the MOST DETAILED and HONEST tech reviewer! Keep it up Josh! The tech community is counting on you❤️
Seems suitable for an all round home office machine, probably even for a learn from home setup. However I must agree that it's price is a bit on the high side and as you mentioned gaming laptops from HP themselves can be a better deal.
I wonder if there will be an amd version like there was last year, that version ended up being much cheaper and much faster
Trust me, I haven't seen a more helpful video than this in a long long time. Keep evolving Josh
In my opinion any review of a laptop with a screen resolution taller than 16x9 should include an assessment of the readability of alphanumeric characters. I know this almost must be subjective, but Josh's report of the number of Excel lines he could comfortably read (about 7:50) was as valuable a metric as I've heard. I went through this part of the video three times. Subscribed.
@Josh - Thanks for the content & details, as always! To answer your question: This laptop is for people like me who want something more portable and stylish than a 15" battlestation, who need an outdoor-capable screen, good battery-life, a microSD card slot, and want slightly better performance than Intel XE graphics (or way better performance than Vega integrated graphics), for light gaming and RUclips content creation. Since 13-14" AMD thin-and-light laptops are nearly unobtainable right now, this HP Envy 14" is pretty darned close to ideal - for me, if no one else!
I actually *love* almost everything about the Razer Book 13 I just picked up, _except_ the Razer's keyboard is terrible! Shallow key travel with a mushy bottom and if you don't hit the keys in the middle, they don't register. It ruins an otherwise *incredible* laptop with amazing build-quality! (The only other bummer is its lack of dedicated GPU)
I´ve got my HP Envy 15" last year and am pretty happy with it. Large, light, touch screen, at a very good price with Walmart - CA$1400 bucks. Big upgrade and relief for everything I do.
What do you think about the new Lenovo Thinkbook 14" gen 2 AMD [ryzen 7 4700u, 16gb, 512ssd, 570$ ] ??
@@vytaidukas buy it, I bought my hp envy with the same specs for 999 eur, so I think it's a really good deal
Hey Josh I’m all the way from Africa Zimbabwe and your reviews have been magnificent. Recently bought an Hp pavilion 15 cs 10th gen and thanks to your channel review 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I hope that this laptop will also be with amd cpu in this year.
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As someone who is really interested in this laptop for general personal use as their "main" personal computer, I think I can help you with the question "who is this laptop for?"
I think, while there is nothing this laptop is "the best" at (other than maximizing the performance of an i5, wow!), it is an extremely solid all arounder. I want good battery life. I want a dedicated GPU for heavy gaming, on lower settings if I have to but I can squeeze in a lot more games on a 1650 than on integrated graphics. I want light weight. I want a 16:10 screen. I want good I/O.
-The Specter has a taller screen and a lighter weight, but its port selection is very limited!
-The macbook pro has better battery life, but way fewer games will run on it (also port selection is even worse).
-The Omen and the Envy 15 have better graphics performance, but are a lot bigger.
-I think the Zephyrus G14 is the most comparable competitor, so I can understand someone wanting to go for it instead. Similar size, with a lot more graphics performance. But it has no webcam! I kinda expect my main laptop to have a webcam, I gotta call my parents and stuff, you know? Also I'm pretty sure you can't charge it off of USB-C which is a huge minus in my book. Also no thunderbolt but that's less specifically important; I'm fine with regular USB-C *if* it supports displayport alt mode and power delivery. Thunderbolt is nice because it guarantees those things
-System76 sells the Galago Pro which is very similar, except with more ports (ethernet! 2 USB-Cs!) and Linux by default (you could install Windows though, nothing's stopping you). Unfortunately I think they are having supply problems, and are having trouble fulfilling the configuration with the 1650. Also its battery is smaller. It's technically a Clevo chassis, but good luck finding other sellers of it.
I will definitely *envy* those RTX 2060 GPUs though. I wanted to hold out for a 3050 or 6500M (and Wifi 6e!) but ran out of patience when my 5 year old laptop started impacting my job interviews
Hey everyone! :D I hope you stay safe and have a nice day, God bless you!
I see Minecraft, I like 👍
I know it's already been said, but Josh actually gives you the details you want to hear rather thank being sold some crappy computer. Keep up the great work Josh
I want a 2-in-1, and I hope something like this is available in Canada.
Rog flow x13
@@ronakpatel7919 envy 13 x360 is a more practical solution.. flow x13 weighs too much and costs too much
@@MichaelFlatman the envy x360 13 and the rog flow x13 both weigh 2.9 pounds dum dum
@@ronakpatel7919 flow x13 is so much more expensive compared to the envy x360
@@avinashanish3350 then that's your problem the original comment never mentioned price so you assume his budget is unlimited
please tell me if you were able to undervolt the 11th gen intel chip
Sadly this is currently not possible...
Your review is exhaustive. if I'm looking for a laptop, I just need to watch your video and presto, I can already make an informed decision. thank you for raising the bar for reviews Josh
From an value standpoint I totally agree with you regarding i5 vs i7. Regarding performance though I want to add my two cents: the idea behind the Tiger Lake i7 is that its able to deliver better performance because it can achieve higher frequencies while using the same power as the i5. Of course, if one lowers power, because of insufficient cooling or other reasons, the result may be an i5 clocking higher than an i7. With the same cooling however the i7 should be able to sustain higher frequencies. Thats because in general i7 get the better quality silicon dies, the ones that are less capacitive and therefore need less voltage to achieve a given frequency. So im curious on what frequencies the i7-1165G7 and i7-1185-G7 would run inside a Laptop that can cool 42 W sustained . I would expect them to run at the advertised 4,1 GHz or 4,3 GHz sustained, which in CB 20/23 equals 4,1/3,8 = 1,08 or 4,3/3,8 = 1,13 the score of the i5. At the time of writing I wasnt be able to find any reviews for the Envy 14 i7-1165G7 unfortunatly.
Josh deserves a shout out.
I haven't seen more such tech reviewer addressing what issues they face in day-to-day performance and tasks.
Just like any competition, RUclips has turned into a rat race - priortizing montization over information.
Just posting a video same day they got their hands-on to a device.
Being a tech enthusiast, who watches reviews and tech videos for entertainment. Thank you for keeping your viewer well-informed. 😊
Kudos to you, man.
Keep up the good work! ❤️
Josh, this is a great review but for some of us there is a dealbreaker I think you didn't mention.
The right ctrl key is removed, replaced by the fingerprint reader.
Some of us actually use that key, especially among left handed users.
I would not even be able to comfortably zoom with the scroll wheel using this laptop.
I was about to buy it, thankfully I noticed this problem before hitting order.
7:15 screen flashing different colours how did you do that? In my new hp aero 13 the same thing is happening n I do not know the solution to it .. plz hlp
Hey Josh, there’s a good reason Intel charges more for the i7 versions, and that reason is binning. i7 chips are generally no different than the i5 chips, except the i7 chips hit better core clocks at a given voltage, because of the higher quality binned silicon. So going for an i7 would still give you a good ~200MHz boost without increasing the power consumption of the chip.
please make another video on best laptops for programming and cover all budget catagories in 2021
This laptop is praised by every reviewer out there, but I just can't push myself to buy one only because it doesn't have a Ryzen processor.
check acer swift x
Let's rename the channel to "Candid tech talk with Josh" . Solid review and gem of a find! Thanks Josh for covering this beast!
So solid. The review not the notebook :D
I would really appreciate some help and advice here.
I'm having an extremely hard time deciding on a laptop to buy. My budget is $1500 - $2000 though I'm willing to stretch it a little more if I see more value.
I don't play any games whatsoever. I use photoshop a lot and recently I have been interested and learning to do some video editing and audio production with Adobe Premiere Pro and Adobe Audition. Everything works fine on my current laptop except for Premiere Pro which won't even run. It would also be nice if Photoshop and my audio production software would run faster.
I currently have an Ultrabook 2-in-1 with touch screen (Dell Inspiron 13 7378, 2018 version) and it's very outdated for me and just doesn't meet my needs any more with it's integrated Intel UHD 620 GPU. You have to understand I didn't even pick this laptop to buy it was simply a $400 bargain 2 years ago in a brand new condition and I just ended up liking it until I started looking into video editing. I don't want to invest in a desktop setup now since I move a lot, a laptop is a must for me.
Last year I was very excited about Huawei Matebook Pro X (2020 version) and I'm so glad I didn't buy it! But then I got excited about the new Dell XPS 15 model with touch screen and GTX 1650 Ti until Nvidia announced their RTX 3000 series so I decided to wait for the new laptop models with the new GPUs.
The dilemma I have right now is this:
1- My laptop is not good enough for my needs by any means, I have been waiting for quite sometime now but I need to buy a better performing laptop sooner than later.
2- I use the touch screen on my laptop quite a lot, the tablet mode and being able to flip the screen 360 degrees isn't very important, but I got very used to a touch screen that I'm just having a hard time accept a laptop without on.
3- I considered XPS 17 9700 with RTX 2060 and I love that device, except I don't feel comfortable spending over $3k which is a lot over my budget and I still won't be getting the RTX 300 series.
4- It's really hard to find a laptop that fits these needs. I have recently been interested in the Zephyrus G15 GA503. Yet grew disappointed because of the soldered ram slot (I understand I'll need to upgrade the ram to get a better video editing experience) and the lack of even a bad webcam to be used while in transit in an airport for example. The lack of touch screen isn't a big issue though.
5- I have considered Asus flex 13x but I don't like the proprietary eGPU
I understand I'm comparing apples to oranges when I put tiny sleek Ultrabooks side to side with Performance gaming laptops. I'm just lost between the two. I don't care about FPS since I'm not a gamer. but I need a good display in a sleek portable laptop. What are my options and what're you suggestions?
Should I get something of what's available now? (and what would that be?) or should I wait a bit more for new things that might come out soon? (Will Dell even make a new XPS with RTX 300 series this year?)
Thank you for reading and for any replies in advance!
OMG yuh n me are exactly in same situation.. im olso hving dell inspiron 3148 which is dell 2 in 1 since 2015. Although i hv i7 7700 in my desktop but it is wdout gpu. im in dilemma whether to buy a discrete gpu or laptop with a gpu and touchscreen. if i bought the gpu which are hardly available and hella expensive . i wont b able to buy tge good laptop.
@@CaptainScorpio24 I guess what I'm really hoping/waiting for now is for Dell releasing a new XPS with the same design of last year just putting in an RTX 3000 in it, even if it's a RTX 3060 Max Q. This would do it for me! The only problem is that I'm not sure if Dell will do that or not, though it's very likely, and I'm not sure when would that be and how much would they price it for either.
@@MohamedAbdin1 they won't. grab msi gf65 for that. they jv rtx 3060. it has 6gb of vram
Hey Josh ! I'm actually searching a new labtop for many differents usages like gaming (only eSports game like League of Legend and Rocket League), video editing sometimes and all day usage (web, video and office pack) that have at least one day battery life. But I have only 1000€ budget. What PC do you recommend between Mac book air M1, HP Pavillion 14 with all options, or wait for the Lenovo slim 7 Pro ?
Thank you for your videos which are wonderful and sorry for my bad English I'm french😅
5:59 You said that Omen 15 4800H 1660ti struggled to edit your video.
-How is Envy 15 perform, compared to the Omen 15 on the same task?
(already noticed you use 1650ti)
-Suppose you get the same GPU, which one would you prefer for video editing? Can you please explain the reasons?
Honestly, the best tech reviewers are Just Josh, David2D, and Mrwhosetheboss. They all spend so much time making these videos, and I can just see that they poured their soul for their viewers. I know there are probably other awesome tech reviewers that I have not mentioned, but as of right now, these 3 are my favourite.
Thanks mate!
So it's been a while and now this laptop is out there for $950 with all your specs plus except 512 gigs on the SSD. Would that make this a better buy than the Acer Swift X?
I was told in a review of the Dell Inspiron 5510 that the Intel Iris Xe Graphics can handle 4K Video Editing. I tried it and it was pretty much unusable. This is why I like honest reviews like this. Keep up the good work Josh. 😊
Hey josh, love your reviews, they give stats i really need as i game and program, im thinking of getting the omen 15 ryzen 7 4800 rtx2060, should i get it or wait for a ryzen 5000 one. And is this envy 14 a good option against the omen 15?
The Lack of dark keycaps with high contrast lettering is a deal breaker for me on so many HP laptops. I cannot understand how they have allowed this to be as it is for so many iterations.
Ive bought Elitebooks over Spectre models to avoid this.
Your comments ref i5 vs i7 are really great - thank you!
Josh makes me want to buy all these laptops I don't need 😂
You opened my eyes on modern laptops.
You are starting a revolution in reviewing
Josh, you honestly make the best reviews for laptops I've seen on my latest rabbithole for buying a new laptop. Keep up the great work. Cheers from Germany!
I just feel so welcomed every time I see your videos. They are so much informative and helpful too. I'm wanting to buy a laptop for programming within few months. Glad I know someone whos video will be of help
I'm really glad!
As always excellent, concise and complete review
Linus said it best. "A higher clocked processor that thermal throttles will not perform better than a lower clocked one that doesn't".
Is this laptop suitable for Adobe software? Like Illustrator or Photoshop.
hey josh, what do you think of the Huawei matebook 14. i mean from what i can read it has everything, 4800h, a 2160x1440 400 nit display, only down side is that it has an integrated vega 7 gpu and no upgradable ram(il be using it for programming and no video editing or gaming), I just have a weird feeling about it thats why im waiting, i found no reviews on the laptop and thought that you might be able to help. also thank you so much for the videos man, I honestly learned a lot from you so please continue the great work.
Excellent. You saves me $$$ here. Just getting ready to pull the trigger on an Envy 14" with the i7 on the HP site. Thanks for the advice!
Your reviews are easily the best I've seen on RUclips for laptops. I'll be buying a new laptop in the summer and honestly I'm happy trusting your recommendations with my money.
I am looking for an affordable 14 inch 16:10 windows ultrabook with i5 or ryzen 5 and 8 GB ram with black keys (to eliminate lack of contrast) and good speakers and battery life. Any suggestions?
Great and informative video as always
Hey Josh which laptop would you recommend overall between Hp envy and Lenovo Yoga Slim 7?
I for one would love to see how you setup your laptop's and what settings/tricks/tips/apps/mods you use to get the most out of them!
Keep up the great work as always Josh! Your killing it right now! Hardest working (and my favourite) RUclips in the tech space! 🔥
I dont know if you can get your hands on one, but a review of the Lenovo Ideapad (Yoga) Slim 7 13ITL5 would be interesting, because its really different to the other slim 7s, it has a 16:10 QHD Display! The other product i would like to see reviewed is the Lenovo ThinkBook 14s Yoga, especially the cpu perfomance
The last bit is the most valuable and is why i watch your videos...
a typo in the title: "an incredible performer thatS proves..."
Will fix
um no
@@FatPandaCries its fixed now I guess 😂
Partially agree. The thing is that as the technology evolves and competition rises, so does the quality of the technology, both in terms of performance and efficiency. Fierce competition drives the price down, everybody wins. That's free fucking market, baby.
Hi Josh, I also commented on one of your reddit post re tiger lake laptops and external display refresh rate. I have a LG 38wn95c-W (3840 x 1600) and would like to get a laptop that can take advantage of the monitors high refresh rate (144Hz). This has ruled out the lenovo yoga 14s / slim 7 pro (AMD) since it does not have thunderbolt.
I am deciding between the intel version of slim 7 pro or the envy 14, but I am also reading various reports of various tigerlake having issues with high res/refresh rate. Is there acually an output limit with the tiger lake cpu / iris graphics card? I am based in Australia, so will be ordering overseas (US or China) which makes it nearly impossible to return the item if there is any issue. Your help is much appreciated.
I am selling mine for 799 have barely used it. it is still under warranty. it is a great laptop I just can't live without a numbers pad.
Hi Josh- I’m not tech savvy so plz pardon me. I’m buying a spectre 13.3. Are you saying for a savings diff of $230, Id be smarter to buy the i5-1135 w/ 8gb RAM, rather than the i7-1165 w/16gb RAM? I’m a casual user- no editing or gaming. I just want a fast laptop, for surfing and RUclips/Netflix, and love the smaller form factor and 16:9 aspect ratio. I had ordered the i7 because it was the only way to get 16 RAM, & thought the i7 would also be better in general. Will I notice any real difference? Or should I change to the i5 /8gb RAM and save $230? Would you order 512 SSD w or w/o the 32gb Optane ?
Thanks! I Love your channel!
BC in Texas
Josh, thank you for your reviews! I've not educated myself in the tech world as my focus has always been elsewhere - so it's been helpful to jump into your channel and get a better idea of what to look for. That being said, I'm looking for a laptop that is 'good enough' for editing photos and some video - but on a budget. ($8-900 range) I've been leaning toward the HP envy 14 for a few weeks (why I watched this review), but am curious if you'd choose a different laptop for the job. I'm a hobbyist, not a professional. I appreciate your time and am aware that these open forum comments don't always receive responses - in which case, I've been gleaning from your expertise within videos you've shared. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us!!
Is the base version of the screen touch? Or do you have to upgrade it?
outstanding work! no one is doing this comparison
Hey Josh, how do you think this compares to your video "i5 vs i7" where you compare 2 Dell XPS's? I confess I'm a little confused after watch this video, because they are very different perspectives.
For example, I want to buy an Ideapad 5i and I can't decide whether to choose the i5-1135G7 or pay +110$ for the i7-1165G7. To which opinion should I listen to? The one on the "i5 vs i7" video or this one?
I'm sorry for all the confusion... I apologize in advance. (Josh, or someone else, please help me out)
Thank you for these excellent reviews! I'm currently debating between the Envy 15 (from 2020) or this new 14. Any thoughts?
I'm in exactly the same situation as you. I was about to order the Envy 15 but then realized the inconvenience of not having the ability to charge via usb-c. So now I'm thinking of getting the Envy 14.
Did you make any decision about this? I'm exactly in the same situation 😐
@@Vuxone I ended up with the Envy 15. I liked the modular RAM and two SSD slots for hopeful future-proofing.
I just recently found Josh and love his channel...I'm still struggling as far as what laptop is best for me...I'm a senior and don't know which product will be right for me...I need a simple set-up with a good camera for senior gatherings and virtual appointments..
For most laptops the cameras are really bad. The laptop lid is so thin (much thinner than even a smartphone) that there is very little in the way of optics to fit in it. A cheap Logitech or Microsoft usb webcam will improve the situation a lot. So basically you can pick any laptop you like with an usb port or two and just add the webcam to the purchase list. That being said: some laptops are less bad than others with the webcams (none are good). I unfortunately do not know a list for those.
@@innocentiuslacrim2290 Thanks for responding...I appreciate it..
Finally! the review i've been waiting for
I guess I'm just confused on why you spend a whole beginning part of the video talking about how good the i5 variant is with it's cpu performance, but then at the end when you are mentioning who it's for you use a picture with the i7 variant selected (even though you've mainly been talking about the i5 one) and say if it were around 1,200$ you'd recommend it. But the one with the i5 is 1,250$
Is there a reason for doing it this way?
That was a mistake in the b roll. The i5 model I have did match the price I was referring to. We will be more careful with the b roll in future
You are brutally honest! I appreciate the Ubuntu and Fedora run. Not to be too demanding, if you can cover Arch base and Opensuse it will be very helpful. Maybe if you have the time, just a video on Linux support alone would be great.
Thanks Josh 😊 sjch valuable information as a editor 👍
So what did you said for a student that works most of the time with excel, but want to play some minor games ( FM,Fortine), The i5 with the dedicated GPU, or the i7 with the Xe gpu?
hi Josh, I'm a .Net programmer using Visual Studio 2019. Is this laptop enough for 3-4 years good use? or better off to more processing core like ryzen 4800h laptop?
Hey Josh - I have been searching for this video and found it again finally. How does this data make you feel about the Envy 15 in 2022? I have been eager to hear any updates from you.
I don't actually need a laptop rn. But I keep stopping by and like bec I know you deserve it 😌 !
do u think it is worth getting this now in 2022 or will there be better stuff for it’s price coming soon?
guys I am looking for a laptop for my father. I found the IdeaPad 5 with ryzen 4800u and 16gb of ram, but I am a little concerned about the fact that it's all plastic and it seems very big and bulky compared to other laptops like matebooks, do you know if it's comfortable to use?
how is the body quality i heard a lot people got defective body like the lid is blend and bad structure because poor quality control, is that true?
Just josh = just the best laptop reviews. Great quality and honesty. Thank you!
Is this Envy suitable for an architecture student? I am planning to use a desktop for heavier workload, but the CAD models aren't that complicated yet: lots of students are using a similar or less expensive notebook such as the Asus Vivobook instead of a workstation.
Im looking for a good laptop to run animation and illustration programs with a separate digital drawing tablet. Im just trying to find a good laptop to draw with. Do you have any suggestions?
I also would like to use it for gaming at times.
So how would you rate with dell Inspiron 14 5000 i5 11 gen? I heard the battery performance and noice is an issue with envy series.
awesome review. it was pleasing to hear the no nonsense analysis of the cooling solution viz the other laptops on the market. i particularly appreciated the "who is this for" section to justify why such a good laptop was difficult to recommend. subbed
Amazing review, and detailed information. Please do not change.
Hi. Love your reviews. Absolutely on point. I want to buy a laptop for work (multitasking), please advice if the HP Pavilion 14 dv0058tu fits the category. What are the pros and cons....Thanks!
I know most people won't do this but I find that beefing up the power delivery and cooling system does wonders for getting a more sustained power out of these laptops. Often manufacturers cheapen out on not just things like heatpipes, that's bad enough but cooling over rectifiers and thermal grease. Something that is so cheap it's almost questionable of why. Yet they do it and often.. Even on an expensive device like the XPS or Latitude 7400 series Dell has cheapened out the cooling. So but why do it even if your not worried about say maximum performance? Easy. Maximum battery life. The hotter rectifiers get the more fans will turn on just like with the cpu thus eating in to precious battery life and yes lowering your performance to meet certain theasholds. This could cost hours of battery life in the long run. Just something as simple as reapplying thermal paste can make a huge difference. Best of all it's cheap. Thermal pads are pretty cheap as is thernal paste. Beefing up a cheap copper cooler is fairly cheap too just that one takes soms research and know how. I certainly don't recommend you just start opening up your laptop if you don't know what your doing anyway. So if what I am saying interests you please research it a little first.
Hi is the hp envy 14 i7 (2021) pen compatible like the hp envy x360 i7? Or is it just touch compatible?
you bought me with your budget laptop guide. best reviews on youtube. keep it up, cheers mate
Josh i a have a question, i bought the hp envy 15 with the huge 80 whathour battery and 1080p display but I can only get between 6 and 7 hours at the lowest brightness settings. I thing It doesn't make sense i believe It should last longer. Do you think I could do some kind of optimization?
I have this unit and I get nearly 8h
wow josh amazing video
Thanks!
I clicked on your link but I don’t see an option to choose i5 with 1650ti. Only 1650 Max Q. Did I miss something?
hey thanks for all videos. seeking for little advice .any comment about dell inspiron 2 in 1 laptop ?? good budget laaptop with touch screen. thanks
Is this laptop good for programming? If not please suggest one..
I noticed in your comparisons, you didn't have the Envy running they Ryzen 4500U. How does it compare?
Wonderfull video! Thanks!
where we can buy this one ? any link ? if you provide a link to buy the laptops you review or like it would be very helpful though !!