My Dad who was a carpenter and cabinetmaker and used those corrugated fasteners quite a bit during his lengthy career. He used a regular claw hammer to install, and I've used them to construct face frames too, many years ago. Very nostalgic seeing those very efficient construction techniques!
My shop has gotten smaller(or so it seems) and I have moved the panel saw out of the shop. I also at one point had a corrugated gun an had large cases of fasteners. Unfortunately they were ruined in a flood
Back in the 70’s I built custom cabinets for various contractors and used the nail guns of all types. I could build a full house of cabinets in about three days. It was a fun time
Yes, my Dad make cabinets as a part time job. He used corrugated fasteners for his face frames. I got his table saw. It is a Rockwell. They only made 10 of them. Dad had to have something replaced on the saw. When he called them they did not have that number so they transferred him to an "OLD" man who knew about Dad's saw. My Dad will be 89 in December. I am 68, with half a can of corrugated fasteners.
Wow, that’s awesome story. Now a question, did he every use a corrugated gun? They were rather rare but available. I had one until my home flooded and ruined it and a case of fasteners for the gun. Did you get the saw repaired?
@@PawPawsWorkShop Dad did not have a gun. Just a hammer. Oh yes he did get it fixed. I am sure someone would have had the part but he didn't know how to source parts for items like that. The saw runs as good as the day he bought it. I need to take it apart and clean it and it would all work better. When I asked him for it he said it does not have a riving knife nor any safety systems on it. I told him if I ever get another saw I would put a dado blade on it and just use it to make dados. I plan to put some guards and dust collections on it. It is a very good saw, just old. Thanks
There’s nothing wrong with old saws. Have you looked at mine? It is from the 70’s. I was practically raised on that saw. When my Dad passed about 25 years ago I wanted that saw. I got it for my shop and have no plans on replacing it.
Awesome, thank you very much. It’s actually hard to find people who used these fasteners. Even more rare to find someone who had a nail gun that shoots these. I had a whole case of fasteners and a gun that was destroyed in a flood. I lot a lot of equipment and a whole house
Hello Paw Paw. I am brand new to the CNC world and my Shapeoko 4 just arrived yesterday. I have never used a CNC machine and feeling a bit overwhelmed but excited as well to get started. I watched your table build and the drawers and loved both videos. I have subscribed and wanted to say Thank you for helping a newbie out.
Congratulations on getting your new CNC machine. Just take it slow and learn with each new project. My videos are designed for the new people to the hobby. Thank you so very much for supporting the channel
Hey kids, please keep in mind, in Paw Paw's workshop, it's Paw Paw's rules. He obviously has a lot of experience and is comfortable running a table saw without the proper safety gear, despite almost losing a thumb @5:20. Monkey see monkey do, may not apply here. Say it with me, "blade guards, push sticks and feather boards are your friends". We can't all be as careful as Paw Paw.
That's a great idea! That never just, however, in over three years it never has sagged. In an upcoming video I am going to add drawers which will add a center support.
@@PawPawsWorkShop Thanks! I like the way you did the legs. Saves a lot of weight over just using standard 4X4 posts but of course that would be an alternative if the weight was not a factor. Just curious, what CNC did you choose? I am looking at the Longmill 30X30 with a 500W mill.
@@PawPawsWorkShop WOW Just saw the cost of sheet goods! Looks like I am going to be putting off the build of my CNC table for a bit with plywood at 70 - 80 bucks a 4 X 8 sheet!!!
Nice design and the hollow 4x4 legs can actually be used for concealed cable/wire management if needed for a different project maybe. I used a pneumatic corrugated staple gun at the cabinet shop I worked at back in the late 80's, we used it mostly on frames for recessed kitchen light panels. We also had a stationary two-bit pocket hole cutter for face frames.
I have used corrugated fasteners for wood splitters they are excellent for that purpose! 🤣 as you know I do not have a CNC machine but I am looking at them. I really like the design of your table? Great video! 😁🛫
Nicely done. I haven't been working with wood for long but I did try using my table saw to do something similar to a rabbit. All I got was jagged ridges? Have no idea what I did wrong. Had to use my router.
Hi Paw, That corrugated fasteners used for Plywood panel doors in 1980s, at that time we don't have nailing gun. I don't think that its available now... thanks for the video. Nice project
That’s a tough question. The table saw is the cornerstone of the shop. All my tables are build to the height of the saw. It makes it easier to use as an outfeed table and when I need to move tools from one table to another. Most dining tables are 30”. Your kitchen cabinets are typically 36” high. The bar height is 42”. Depending on the type of work you do at the table will determine a comfortable height.
Just finished one in time for the arrival or a Shapeoko Pro XXL. Your additions in the section where you add the drawers really tighten up the table. If your watching this and plan to make one I suggest watching that video too before adding the table top. Took me 2 sheets of 3/4 to do it all including shelving the lower leg supports plus a sheet of 3/4 MDF for a top surface. Let Kreg know you sold them a K4 kit with clamps Paw Paw and I stole your K4 work bench idea too from here. Don’t see how to add a picture here. Thanks again for sharing your craft.
One solution to that problem is to laminate a 1/4 inch hardboard onto the MDF to help strengthen it. Or you could glue on a wood border for protection as well. :)
Nice video. Wish I'd seen it a year ago before I built my CNC table! How did you end up fastening the top to the base? I still haven't done that part yet.
I did not fasten the table top to the base. That was by design. In another video where I added the drawers, you will see that I slid the top off with the cnc machine still on the table.
I noticed you just used casters and didn't install any leveling feet. Do you just have an extremely level shop floor or is leveling not needed as long as the top is flat?
Been mulling this one over for couple months now. Nice looking panel saw. That looks great! Impressive just like I've seen at Home Depot. You have the 1000mm xcarve?
Hello Paw Paw. I just bought my first CBC machine (x-carve) and have been watching a lot of your videos. I have learned a lot in regards to all the softwares and what they do (a bit overwhelming). I watched this video and wanted to know if you have the plans so I can build a similar one for my CNC?
Because I had the plywood and did not have a 4x4. I used what I had available. It also shows different techniques which is what this channel is all about
@@PawPawsWorkShop That's quite true. I fully understand 'use what you have available'. It's a better approach than running to shop everytime we need to build anything. Thank you so much.
This is the simplest design possible. No, I'm sorry, I do not have a cut list. This table can easily be built from the video. You can change any measurements you wish to meet your needs. In addition, you do not have to build the legs as I did. You can simply build the legs with only two sides if you wish. The pocket hole method is very easy to do. I rarely use plans. At most I sketch out a basic drawing on a dry erase board.
I used those corrugated fasteners but always hated them. For some reason I could never drive them straight and wound up chipping and cracking my pieces to the point of frustration. The first rule to using any tool is that you have to be smarter than the tool you use. Obviously I'm not smart enough to use those... 😀
Lol, I understand. I used the individual ones for a long time until I got a nail gun that would shoot the corrugated fasteners. That was a game changer
Hey Paw Paw, what height did you make this table? I'm getting ready to duplicate your build but have never used a CNC machine so I don't know what height to shoot for. Also, if I make the runners and legs a little wider (maybe 5") do you think I can get pocket holes all of the way around instead of the corrugated fasteners? Thank you for the in depth videos 🙂
The table height is 33" It was designed to be the height of my table saw. If that is not a concern I would make it regular cabinet height of 36". The legs at 4" are fine to do the pocket holes all the way around. The corrugated fasteners were only used for the face frame to all me to build drawers. To use pocket holes for this area I would make the face frame about 2" wide. Thank you for your support
I am shopping for a CNC. I am a hobby woodworker looking to sell items I make. I have zero experience with a CNC. What CNC would you suggest I start out with? I would greatly appreciate your input. God bless you sir and have a wonderful day!
Welcome, I would think about the budget you have, the space to locate a machine and the size of the products that you want to make. With that information you can shop. I like the XCarve for the first time people with no experience. That’s where I started and that is still my go to machine. The Easel software is easy to learn and they are constantly improving the features. Buy the largest machine within your budget. I promise you that your projects will grow bigger than your machine. I have a link in the description that takes to to their website. It is an affiliate link. I make a few dollars and it cost you nothing. Hopefully, that will get you started.
@@PawPawsWorkShop Yes sir I have plenty of room in my shop and am looking at the X Carve 1000mm with the Z probe, the dust boot. Would I need the clamps or just use the painters tape and CA glue method? Could you point me to a good set of bits to start with please sir! And of course I would certainly use the affiliate link to make my purchase! We gotta help each other out in this community! God bless you and thank you so much for your input!!
I use the clamps occasionally. I also use the bump stops that I designed. They are a free download in the project section of inventables. The glue and tape method is what I use most. As far as bits. I would get 1/8 and 1/16” upcut and downcut bits. You will need the 1/8” straight bits also. I get the vbits from the local hardware store and occasionally from Whiteside and Amana. You will need 60 and 90 degree vbits.
@@PawPawsWorkShop Awesome I am now on my way! Will get the clamps in case and them order those bits you requested! Once again thank you so much looking forward to my new venture! I sure am late getting into the CNC game....lol!
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My Dad who was a carpenter and cabinetmaker and used those corrugated fasteners quite a bit during his lengthy career. He used a regular claw hammer to install, and I've used them to construct face frames too, many years ago. Very nostalgic seeing those very efficient construction techniques!
Wow, thank you for sharing your story. This certainly brings back memories. I also hit my fingers more than once trying to hold those fasteners.
Thank you again for sharing a very interesting tutorial, love the way you built a strong and light table by using hollow legs, nice one.
Thank you very much! It is an excellent method
I just made your table and can’t wait to paint it and get my machine on it.
Thanks.
Awesome! Thank you! Hopefully you find it very useful
*I wish I had room for a panel saw!* And I thought I was only person who had an entire selection of corrugated fasteners!
My shop has gotten smaller(or so it seems) and I have moved the panel saw out of the shop. I also at one point had a corrugated gun an had large cases of fasteners. Unfortunately they were ruined in a flood
@@PawPawsWorkShop Wow, I've never seen the corrugated gun! I still use them on many of my picture frames.
Back in the 70’s I built custom cabinets for various contractors and used the nail guns of all types. I could build a full house of cabinets in about three days. It was a fun time
@@PawPawsWorkShop Retirement is MORE FUN Paw Paw!! 🤪
I work more and harder since retirement. Lol, it crazy. I do get to spend a lot of time with the grandkids
Yes, my Dad make cabinets as a part time job. He used corrugated fasteners for his face frames. I got his table saw. It is a Rockwell. They only made 10 of them. Dad had to have something replaced on the saw. When he called them they did not have that number so they transferred him to an "OLD" man who knew about Dad's saw. My Dad will be 89 in December. I am 68, with half a can of corrugated fasteners.
Wow, that’s awesome story. Now a question, did he every use a corrugated gun? They were rather rare but available. I had one until my home flooded and ruined it and a case of fasteners for the gun. Did you get the saw repaired?
@@PawPawsWorkShop Dad did not have a gun. Just a hammer. Oh yes he did get it fixed. I am sure someone would have had the part but he didn't know how to source parts for items like that. The saw runs as good as the day he bought it. I need to take it apart and clean it and it would all work better. When I asked him for it he said it does not have a riving knife nor any safety systems on it. I told him if I ever get another saw I would put a dado blade on it and just use it to make dados. I plan to put some guards and dust collections on it. It is a very good saw, just old. Thanks
There’s nothing wrong with old saws. Have you looked at mine? It is from the 70’s. I was practically raised on that saw. When my Dad passed about 25 years ago I wanted that saw. I got it for my shop and have no plans on replacing it.
I’m getting into timber projects and can’t believe how simple but also how strong these legs are.
Yes, they are great and so easy to build. Thanks for watching
I too, used the corrugated fasteners in the '70. New subscriber ENJOYING your channel.
Awesome, thank you very much. It’s actually hard to find people who used these fasteners. Even more rare to find someone who had a nail gun that shoots these. I had a whole case of fasteners and a gun that was destroyed in a flood. I lot a lot of equipment and a whole house
I would love to see a video on your panel saw build. I appreciate all your videos. Thanks for all the tips and techniques.
Thank you very much. That will take some work to get that video together. This panel saw was built many years ago long before I was doing videos.
Yes I've used them before 73 maybe
Hello Paw Paw. I am brand new to the CNC world and my Shapeoko 4 just arrived yesterday. I have never used a CNC machine and feeling a bit overwhelmed but excited as well to get started. I watched your table build and the drawers and loved both videos. I have subscribed and wanted to say Thank you for helping a newbie out.
Congratulations on getting your new CNC machine. Just take it slow and learn with each new project. My videos are designed for the new people to the hobby. Thank you so very much for supporting the channel
Really enjoy this build, now I need to try it. I always need place to put tools on.My CNC is in my office.
You should build it also look at the video where I added drawers to this table.
Paw paw reminds me of my grandpa. Best person I've ever known. Subscribed.
Thank you very much. That means a lot to me.
Hey kids, please keep in mind, in Paw Paw's workshop, it's Paw Paw's rules. He obviously has a lot of experience and is comfortable running a table saw without the proper safety gear, despite almost losing a thumb @5:20. Monkey see monkey do, may not apply here. Say it with me, "blade guards, push sticks and feather boards are your friends". We can't all be as careful as Paw Paw.
Thank you very much for your comments. Safety is always my number one concern.
I would add a support beam in the middle of the table to make sure no sagging. Very nice build!
That's a great idea! That never just, however, in over three years it never has sagged. In an upcoming video I am going to add drawers which will add a center support.
@@PawPawsWorkShop Thanks! I like the way you did the legs. Saves a lot of weight over just using standard 4X4 posts but of course that would be an alternative if the weight was not a factor. Just curious, what CNC did you choose? I am looking at the Longmill 30X30 with a 500W mill.
I have the XCarve and the cnc4newbie new carve. I just got the FOX Alien.
@@PawPawsWorkShop WOW Just saw the cost of sheet goods! Looks like I am going to be putting off the build of my CNC table for a bit with plywood at 70 - 80 bucks a 4 X 8 sheet!!!
Nice design and the hollow 4x4 legs can actually be used for concealed cable/wire management if needed for a different project maybe. I used a pneumatic corrugated staple gun at the cabinet shop I worked at back in the late 80's, we used it mostly on frames for recessed kitchen light panels. We also had a stationary two-bit pocket hole cutter for face frames.
Thank you very much. I had one of the corrugated staple guns. It lasted for years
Great Job Paw Paw :) Love it and some of the old school ways of doing thing too ! ! !
Thanks so much!
Great content as always
Thank you very much.
Thanks 👍😊
You're welcome
I have used corrugated fasteners for wood splitters they are excellent for that purpose! 🤣 as you know I do not have a CNC machine but I am looking at them. I really like the design of your table? Great video! 😁🛫
Thank you very much. Take a look at this new CNC before you make a decision on purchasing a machine. I think you will like this one.
Nicely done. I haven't been working with wood for long but I did try using my table saw to do something similar to a rabbit. All I got was jagged ridges? Have no idea what I did wrong. Had to use my router.
Using the router cleans up the edges nicely
Hi Paw, That corrugated fasteners used for Plywood panel doors in 1980s, at that time we don't have nailing gun. I don't think that its available now... thanks for the video. Nice project
Late 70's and early 80's nail guns were out. I used the corrugated fastener gun in the 70's to build cabinets. It was the standard at that time.
Great table and drawers. What you suggested as the height of the table to be, I am 6'2" in addition what the heights of the drawers you suggest?
That’s a tough question. The table saw is the cornerstone of the shop. All my tables are build to the height of the saw. It makes it easier to use as an outfeed table and when I need to move tools from one table to another. Most dining tables are 30”. Your kitchen cabinets are typically 36” high. The bar height is 42”. Depending on the type of work you do at the table will determine a comfortable height.
Hello, Thanks for the video. What top material do you use for the table ? Mdf or plywood ? Thanks
With today’s prices go with the cheapest. I used 3/4 MDF (medium density fiberboard)
Just finished one in time for the arrival or a Shapeoko Pro XXL. Your additions in the section where you add the drawers really tighten up the table. If your watching this and plan to make one I suggest watching that video too before adding the table top. Took me 2 sheets of 3/4 to do it all including shelving the lower leg supports plus a sheet of 3/4 MDF for a top surface. Let Kreg know you sold them a K4 kit with clamps Paw Paw and I stole your K4 work bench idea too from here. Don’t see how to add a picture here. Thanks again for sharing your craft.
You're very welcome. Thank you for sharing your information.
Did you build that panel saw setup and if so do you have a build video? I want one!
Yes, I built it several years ago before I was making videos. I do not have a video of the building process
@@PawPawsWorkShop I'll have to do my own homework then. Thank you for the response.
Corregated Fastners are still available (on Amazon). You can even get a air gun to put them in (or hammer the individual ones).
Wow! That's great to know. I had no idea that guns were still available.
Terrific table. Only thing I would change is the MDF top. I just don’t like the ease at which the corners and edges can get damaged.
Thank you very much. My tables are protected on three sides and do not get damaged. You make an excellent point it you table is out in the open.
One solution to that problem is to laminate a 1/4 inch hardboard onto the MDF to help strengthen it. Or you could glue on a wood border for protection as well. :)
where do you find 3/4" plywood? all I can find is metric plywood
Anything close to the 3/4" is fine.
what was the dimensions of your table i got the new carve 1000 need to build a table for it tks
Nice video. Wish I'd seen it a year ago before I built my CNC table! How did you end up fastening the top to the base? I still haven't done that part yet.
I did not fasten the table top to the base. That was by design. In another video where I added the drawers, you will see that I slid the top off with the cnc machine still on the table.
I noticed you just used casters and didn't install any leveling feet. Do you just have an extremely level shop floor or is leveling not needed as long as the top is flat?
First, the slab is relatively level. Second, the most important thing is to have the wasteboard perpendicular to the router
Do you just use a speed square to set that?
Yes, you can tweak it more when carving as needed
Been mulling this one over for couple months now. Nice looking panel saw. That looks great! Impressive just like I've seen at Home Depot. You have the 1000mm xcarve?
The panel saw was actually designed after looking at the one at Home Depot. Thank you very much for your comments. Yes, this is a 1000mm xcarve.
Paw Paw’s WorkShop , thats impressive. I bet you could do real well selling plans for that panel saw. Thank you for the answers!
Maybe, I have not even considered it.
Man, I need a panel saw
Time to get into your shop and build one.
Paw Paw’s WorkShop may do just that if I can finaggle some space
Paw Paw’s WorkShop you should do a video on your panel saw
What model of CNC did you get from cnc4newbies?
NEW-Carve CNC from CNC4Newbies 1000mm
Hello Paw Paw. I just bought my first CBC machine (x-carve) and have been watching a lot of your videos. I have learned a lot in regards to all the softwares and what they do (a bit overwhelming).
I watched this video and wanted to know if you have the plans so I can build a similar one for my CNC?
No, I do not have plans but you should have enough information to build you own from watching the video. Let me know if you have questions
Sir ur my hero. I just bought a longmill cnc and everything I need to know u have a video thanks.
Glad I could help. You're very welcome. Good luck with your new CNC
Why not use cheap 4x4 and save a LOT of time? Just curious not questioning.
Because I had the plywood and did not have a 4x4. I used what I had available. It also shows different techniques which is what this channel is all about
@@PawPawsWorkShop That's quite true. I fully understand 'use what you have available'. It's a better approach than running to shop everytime we need to build anything. Thank you so much.
Are you going to be running 2 cnc machines?
Yes, I will be running two cnc machines
Great table can we get a cut list?
This is the simplest design possible. No, I'm sorry, I do not have a cut list. This table can easily be built from the video. You can change any measurements you wish to meet your needs. In addition, you do not have to build the legs as I did. You can simply build the legs with only two sides if you wish. The pocket hole method is very easy to do. I rarely use plans. At most I sketch out a basic drawing on a dry erase board.
@@PawPawsWorkShop it appears that you made the legs 4' tall is that correct?
I didn't know they still sold corrugated fasteners. Have used one I years. Is your old cnc for sale?
I did not buy the corrugated fasteners, I had them on hand from years agao. No, the old cnc is not for sale.
I used those corrugated fasteners but always hated them. For some reason I could never drive them straight and wound up chipping and cracking my pieces to the point of frustration. The first rule to using any tool is that you have to be smarter than the tool you use. Obviously I'm not smart enough to use those... 😀
Lol, I understand. I used the individual ones for a long time until I got a nail gun that would shoot the corrugated fasteners. That was a game changer
Hey Paw Paw, what height did you make this table? I'm getting ready to duplicate your build but have never used a CNC machine so I don't know what height to shoot for. Also, if I make the runners and legs a little wider (maybe 5") do you think I can get pocket holes all of the way around instead of the corrugated fasteners? Thank you for the in depth videos 🙂
The table height is 33" It was designed to be the height of my table saw. If that is not a concern I would make it regular cabinet height of 36". The legs at 4" are fine to do the pocket holes all the way around. The corrugated fasteners were only used for the face frame to all me to build drawers. To use pocket holes for this area I would make the face frame about 2" wide. Thank you for your support
Used them on picture frames.
Awesome! Great use for them.
I am shopping for a CNC. I am a hobby woodworker looking to sell items I make. I have zero experience with a CNC. What CNC would you suggest I start out with? I would greatly appreciate your input. God bless you sir and have a wonderful day!
Welcome, I would think about the budget you have, the space to locate a machine and the size of the products that you want to make. With that information you can shop. I like the XCarve for the first time people with no experience. That’s where I started and that is still my go to machine. The Easel software is easy to learn and they are constantly improving the features. Buy the largest machine within your budget. I promise you that your projects will grow bigger than your machine. I have a link in the description that takes to to their website. It is an affiliate link. I make a few dollars and it cost you nothing. Hopefully, that will get you started.
@@PawPawsWorkShop Yes sir I have plenty of room in my shop and am looking at the X Carve 1000mm with the Z probe, the dust boot. Would I need the clamps or just use the painters tape and CA glue method? Could you point me to a good set of bits to start with please sir! And of course I would certainly use the affiliate link to make my purchase! We gotta help each other out in this community! God bless you and thank you so much for your input!!
I use the clamps occasionally. I also use the bump stops that I designed. They are a free download in the project section of inventables. The glue and tape method is what I use most. As far as bits. I would get 1/8 and 1/16” upcut and downcut bits. You will need the 1/8” straight bits also. I get the vbits from the local hardware store and occasionally from Whiteside and Amana. You will need 60 and 90 degree vbits.
@@PawPawsWorkShop Awesome I am now on my way! Will get the clamps in case and them order those bits you requested! Once again thank you so much looking forward to my new venture! I sure am late getting into the CNC game....lol!
What did you get for a new CNC?
I got a new CNC.
Paw Paw’s WorkShop I know!! Which one?? Is it a surprise for another video?
Andrew Crochere the answer is in the next video.... which is out now.
Yes
Thank you very much, you are correct.
i see that cnc4newbies machine
Yes, it is here early. I am very happy.
😯👍👍👍❤❤❤
Thank you
Awzome
Thank you very much.
I recommend Woodprix to every beginner and not only.
It is expensive and beginners are usually on a tight budget. Free information and plans are available everywhere.