Good Morning 6-1-24, First thank you for your service from an old Marine, '66/'69. Just received my Shapeoko 4 and before assembly I want a mobile base for my small wood shop and stumbled across your video. Way more than I plan to do for what I need but very much enjoyed watching your work and the fact you are straight up about your mistakes and cures. Subscribed as a Thank You for your service and look forward to following you as time moves along. On this one video I did not see your service branch but regardless, Semper Fi
I'm U.S. Army, branched Special Forces (previously Infantry). I'm a Green Beret that now serves in the U.S. Army Reserves.Thank you for your service and for the channel support. Good luck with your new CNC!!
First off thank you for your service! Funny thing I just purchased the Shapeoko 4 xxl and I went through the same thing with some of the switches weren’t working and it was very frustrating lol but Oscar at Carbide 3D was awesome and he got me up and running! I’m very interested in your plans for your enclosure.
As someone who took industrial millwright in college, I actually enjoyed doing electrical work. As an aspiring mechanical engineer, I have been doing Autocad and fusion for years now, and many projects. I subscribed and looking forward to watching more videos. Your thought process and the way you go about this project is the way I like to do things. I'll be watching more videos. I'll be building a similar enclosed for my cnc.
Well done video. Plans purchased. Ya, BRCC is awsome. The support a couple of veteran support groups I volunteer with. Most of all from one Vet to another, thank you for your service.
Thank you for the complement, the purchase, and support. BRCC is awesome. If you have any questions about the build, feel free to reach out; I’m always happy to answer questions and learn if I could improve anything about the plans. I’d love to see your enclosure when you get it finished!
On one recent project, I also used 1/2" ply as divider. Bad decision. At the end of the day, it's simpler to get a 3/4" ply divider. Very nice project, thanks for sharing it.
Good build fella! I’ve just set up my cnc and you’ve inspired me to build something similar. I really like how you’ve wired in and set out the switches, very practical! Great design!
I've never been a fan of enclosures. I always thought they would be in the way and with a water cooled spindle and a outside mounted dust collector I didn't see any benefit.... UNTIL NOW!! This is a fantastic design and my be the design for a new project. As soon as I install my 3DTec-Co X risers on my Shapeoko Pro I'll be measuring. I hope you don't mind answering a gazillion question. Lol!!
Thanks for the complements! I love the enclosure so far; it’s met all of my expectations. I hope you build it. I’m happy to answer any questions, so don’t hesitate to ask!
Nice enclosure. I am trying to design one for my CNC router. However I need to take care of cleaning as I do aluminum milling with coolant and this gets messy. I also need to take care of the noise as the house owner lives on top
Great video. Thanks for posting. Our school was looking for someone to build the exact same enclosure for our xcarve. Was wondering if that was something you would be interested in. Hope to hear from you.
I wanna watch your video so badly right now. I’m making a cut on my machine in my apartment and it’s way loud rn. And your audio is quiet in so many places. I’ll be watching again!
Nice video. Thanks for sharing. I would recommend relocating the smoke detector to outside of the cabinet. It won’t take long for the dust to collect inside the detector and set it off. As an alternative, you could use a heat detector (rate of rise); however I am not sure they are Wi-Fi compatible.
You’re welcome. As far as the smoke detector, I’ve had it in that position since I’ve build it with only two instances of it going off. I went off once for carbon monoxide with no clear reason or indication (we took all necessary precautions) and the second time was when I blew out the enclosure with compressed air - dust was everywhere. I’ve used the CNC with and without dust collection and have never set it off during use.
I built a PrintNC CNC and it was super fun. I still have no enclosure and I intend to build one like yours. I recommend you get a cheap little label printer (I got a "phomemo" one for $30 and it was invaluable to label wires and cables. I was writing on electrical tape and it was so frustrating. Great purchase. Also recommend you setup a contactor for disconnect rather than the smart switch.
Over-Engineered Miter Saw Station - Part 2 ruclips.net/video/sRTDqlY3cuQ/видео.html I have plans for the whole miter saw station on my Etsy store - benches included!
Pretty slick, man! I'm very mechanical in nature as well and can do some wild stuff, but slip an electrical diagram in front of me, it might as well be ancient Kanji. Outlet boxes, switches, lights, not a problem. Anything where I have to do frequency or worry about EM signals, uhh... Know your limits, exceed where possible, refer to a professional when you find them. 👍
Great build. I've watched it several times for inspiration and ideas. I am grappling with ideas for rocker switches to control the items. can you show how you installed the switches to the outlets (you can see it a little in the video). Also, how did you hook up the e-stop to your CNC? Does your CNC come with a control box? If so, how did you wire it to the e-stop. I'm looking for electrical advice, just curious how you did yours? thanks again.
might want to do a Decibel Rating on the Enlcosure, I dont know if I missed that in the video. Testing the sound proofing and displaying that would be very helpfull and i think get you a better review. Owning my first CNC and looking for videos that is one of the key benefits/reasons for an Enclosure
Thank you for sharing this. Very impressive. Follow-up question if you happen to still check this - does the Festool do OK heat-wise in the closed drawer?
I haven't had any issues so far. I did install a small computer fan in the back of the enclosure cabinet to get some airflow back there. I just wired the fan to my auxiliary switch on my control panel. I'm not sure if this was needed - I ran it for months with out the fan - but it makes me feel better.
Thanks@@EngineeringWorkshop_hvw. That's good to hear, and good tip on the computer fan. I'm thinking I'll try something like that or a bathroom exhaust fan and pipe it outside. I just finished an adapted wider version of your enclosure, and while this project absolutely kicked my butt as someone new to woodworking, your plans and instructions were really well done and kept me on track. The only issue I've had is the front-top not wanting to slide back... but I suspect it's because I did two drawer slides on the top and probably need to re-align / reinforce for sagging on the back half. Or I just didn't get that piece square, which is very possible. You mentioned this in another comment, but for anyone else looking at this, I'm also pleasantly surprised at the sound reduction. I'm sure it's not anything like the soundproof-designed enclosures you see on here, but it's completely possible to have a normal level conversation or watch a TV show next to the enclosure while it's running. Thank you!
Great video I was just looking for something like this probably gonna go by your plans quick question I have the X carve1000 there's a height have your enclosure include upgraded Z axis which I'll probably do in the future.
@@EngineeringWorkshop_hvw if you live near a Best Buy they have one from Sampson that works with your phone! It’s very good for the price! Or you can your EarPods!
I don’t at this time; sorry! I eventually want to develop those plans, but I think major modifications will be necessary to adequately utilize the space underneath the CNC. Namely, I want to add a third bank of drawers, rather than simply expand the two banks already designed. This will be more time consuming than simply modifying the parametric variables; that’s why I haven’t got to it yet.
For what it's worth, I did the lazy version of this and just added 12 inches of total width, and split the different at 6 extra inches of width to the drawers. It is working well and didn't require any complicated math (I did have to add a middle piece of frame to the front door as I couldn't find an affordable piece of polycarbonate that big... but that was the worst of the adjustments needed).
Just a guess, anywhere from 500-600 lbs with a safety factor of 2. This is an informed guess based on a weightlifting half rack I built out of 2x4s (build plans available on my Etsy store). I did some analysis of a single 2x4 under compression load, along the grain (2x4 on its end, standing upright; which is similar to the frame of this enclosure) and it can support 500 lbs all by itself, if it isn’t allowed to be cross loaded, or put under an extra torque, etc. With four 2x4’s in the frame, one in each corner, and braced against deflection, I’d say it can easily support 500+ lbs. this assumes the weight is fairly evenly distributed across the top (I.e. not a point load). In a practical matter, I’ve stood on this enclosure a lot (180lbs) and haven’t experienced any deflection while standing, walking, crawling, etc. it’s rock solid. I’m sure it will hold any CNC that will fit on it.
I haven't measured the table for displacement while milling, but I would heuristically say the entire assembly is very stable. I think the most movement comes from the casters. Also, I don't push my CNC very hard against dense materials - most wood is soft enough that it won't put so much strain into the machine that the table will deflect. Compare this to machining hard metals. Generally speaking, I haven't seen anyone use the proper work-holding on their projects to resist the forces required to flex the work surface the CNC sits on. My point (especially for double sided tape) if the CNC was strong enough to flex the table while milling, it would break the part off the waste board first.
Hello. I have a Onefinity, and plan to use a Festool for my dust collection setup, with a cyclone added. Do you find this is sufficient for suction. Any drawbacks , other than price? How is the noise, and heat?
The Festool has been great so far. Plenty of section with a 2.5” hose going from my chip separator (5 gal bucket with plastic thien baffle) to my router dust boot. The noise is fine tucked away in the enclosure. It’s obviously louder with the drawer open, but still quieter than a shop vac for sure. It does generate heat in the enclosure. To fix this, I’m going to install a fan into the back of the enclosure to exhaust some of the heat. It’s a plug in fan, which I plan to plug into the front of the festool, then wire a switch to my control panel. This will allow me to turn on the vacuum with my switches, rather than pressing the button in the front of the dust extractor.
First, thank you for your service!!!! This is an excellent build. Very well done. I have already purchased the plans to build this for my Shapeoko3 xxl. My biggest concern is controlling dust as I share my garage with my better half. I noticed you are using the Festool dust vac. I am wondering how that is working for you as the cfm is only about 135. Also, any concerns of it over heating being in the cabinet? Thanks for a great video.
The Festool CT15 has been doing great; plenty of suction for a 2.5” dust hose. It’s even doing a great job with the efficiency loss due to the chip separator. As far as the heat generated inside the enclosure, I added a small fan (like a computer fan) to the back and wired it to my auxiliary switch on the control panel. Now I can turn on the exhaust fan and blow out the excess heat. I tried plugging this into the Festool extractor to trigger when the extractor comes on, but the amperage isn’t enough to trigger the “auto on” feature of the extractor.
Great video and great build. I just purchased the plans; however, I will have to modify the build for the Onefinity Journeyman (probably add 10 or so inches vertically). The plans indicate the front draw is for a 5 gallon chip separator. Can you share what you are using for the actual dust collection and where is it located?
Hey John, Thank you for your purchase and your support. I hope you are happy with the quality of the plans! I absolutely love my CNC enclosure and have received a lot of positive feedback on the resultant builds. I use a Festool CT15 dust extractor and a 5 gallon bucket with a thien baffle for a chip separator. Both of these fit in the “dust collection drawer” (side by side) which is really convenient. Originally I planned for the dust extractor to sit behind the drawer bank in the back of the enclosure (which would definitely work), but was pleasantly surprised by the Festool form factor. I figured the chip separator would be emptied most often and would be best in the drawer for ease of access. I planned to remote start the dust extractor for use (if it was behind the drawer bank) and would take the drawer out of the enclosure to empty the dust extractor when necessary. I hope that answers your questions! Hunter
The main reason I want to build an enclosure is to reduce the noise. I really like the sliding top but I wonder how much of an impact that has on noise reduction. Any thoughts or observations you have on this?
Hey Ted! Thanks for the complement and comment. The sliding enclosure is definitely not the best sound reduction method out there. I’m sure you’ve already watched videos with locking doors and sound proofing foam on the inside of the enclosure. Those designs will obviously reduce observed sound outside the enclosure more than my design. I chose to prioritize functionality and ease of maintenance (I felt like the foam would be a nightmare to clean the chips and dust off of). With that said, this enclosure significantly reduces observed sound in a garage workshop setting. Most notably, the pitch / whine of the router is lowered, making it more tolerable. My long term plan for noise reduction is to augment my Shapeoko Pro with a water cooled spindle. I think this will have a greater impact than most enclosure design choices (with exception to the most extreme) on the observed sound outside the enclosure. To close, I really enjoy the functionality of the sliding top. It gives the feel of an unenclosed CNC while setting up you work holding, vacuuming dust, etc; very convenient. I am happy with the prioritization of ease of use over sound attenuation; it’s quiet enough for me. I hope this helps!
Can you please share more details or a picture of how you made the front door with the T track and wooden dowel. Did you have a stop on the end to prevent the Front door from coming out of the track? Also, do you have a source of the AFO fire suppression? Thank you
Hey Michael, I have complete plans available on my Etsy store if the following description doesn’t fully answer your question. I build the front door with half-lap joinery, just making a rectangle to mount the polycarbonate into. I drilled a hole in the outside corner to fit a dowel. This dowel is sized to fit into your t-track. It’s important to use a cylindrical prism, rather than another shape, because once the dowel is glued to the door, it needs to rotate (door opening) and slide along the t-track. To prevent the door from sliding out the front, I glued “edge banding” (a .25” thick and .75” wide strip of oak) onto the edge of the plywood. This covered the exposed end of the t-track embedded in a dado in the sliding enclosure sides. I’ll provide a link to the AFO ball in the description. I bought it off Amazon. I hope this helps!
thank you for the prompt response. Great Video I have built the sides already. My challenge is the front door, since I do not have height to do what Mitz did. I had planned on a Barrister Hinge as you have.
Hey, I added a link to a fire suppression product in the description. Apparently the fire suppression ball isn’t available anymore, so I linked an automatic fire suppression tube. The tube is heat activated, rather than flame activated, which is a superior solution. Also, that’s the first time I’ve heard of a barrister hinge lol. I wish I would have know that so I could have better articulated the design in the video. Oh well, thanks for teaching me!
Yes, it reduces the high pitched “whine” of the router considerably. In my “Special Forces Detachment Logo” video, I have a decibel meter take readings of you are interested.
Very cool enclosure! I like how the sides retract. Clever idea with the smoke sensor and smart plug. Can the plug be automatically turned off if the smoke sensor detects smoke? May require IFTTT integration, which also falls into the voodoo realm.
Thank you! I think IFTTT could automate the smart plug. This is my first Google Nest Smoke Alarm, so I can’t say for sure, but I’ve set up a few smart home automations with IFTTT before and could envision it working. I primarily wanted the smart smoke alarm in case I was remotely monitoring the CNC, I might not hear a traditional siren over the running CNC and dust collection; this way, I’ll get a notification on my iPhone and the iPad I’ll be monitoring the CNC with.
The first link is the blue rocker switches on Amazon. They are automotive switches, but they work well. If you wire power to them, they will light up when on. The second link is for the emergency stop switch. I don’t have a wiring diagram for the switches. I watched a bunch of RUclips videos to learn how to do it, and was definitely not confident that it was going to work. I was shocked that it worked the first time. I’m sorry I can’t be more help; I wouldn’t even know how to draw you a proper wiring diagram without more self study.
Thanks! I don’t have a VFD spindle yet, so I don’t have a large control box to store. The Shapeoko has controller that mounts to one of the side rails, and I use a BitRunner that mounts to the other side rail. These are within the footprint of the machine and easily fit inside the enclosure. The top is very effective at reducing noice. I have a video “Special Forces Detachment Logo” where I run a decibel meter and demonstrate the sound reduction.
I'm using 2.5" dust hose from Woodcraft. I'm sure you can also get something similar from Rockler, etc., I just liked the color scheme of the Woodcraft one - matches the machine better. It's been great so far. I use a Festool CT-15 dust extractor and an inline thien baffle chip separator beneath my enclosure (large drawer on the left) and the suction has been all I need - keeps everything really clean and I don't recut my chips.
Fantastic video! I just moved and put my CNC in a room in the basement. I saw your comments on someone's question regarding noise reduction. Do you have a sense using your phone with the noise reduction would be between the lid open and the lid closed? Again thanks for sharing! Great design! And most importantly, thank you for your service.
Hey Mark, thanks for the comment and complement on the build. I’ve been meaning to measure the decibels while in use. Next time I fire up the CNC, I’ll take some readings and report back.
Hey! Thanks, I’m glad someone gets my jokes lol. It reduces the noise a lot. I’m my Special Forces logo video, I run a decibel meter during different cutting loads to demonstrate the noise with the enclosure. It makes a big difference being in the shop - mostly reduces the high pitched whine from the router and the peak decibels when slot cutting hardwood.
@@EngineeringWorkshop_hvw hey I have the bit zero and bit runner so the router auto turns on n off, was wondering if you have the same add ons and did you have run your vacuum?
I also have the bit runner and bit zero. I like having the router/spindle turn off when the job is complete. The bit zero is just too handy not to have. I use a Festool CT15 as a dust extractor. I run it every time I use the enclosure. The Festool is quite as is, but inside the enclosure it is almost silent.
Thanks! I have an Etsy store: HuntersEWStore. There is a link in the video description; my phone won’t let me paste the URL in this comment for some reason. I absolutely love the enclosure - it makes using the CNC easy and enjoyable.
The Festool is doing great. I’ve only had to empty the 5 gal chip separator once, and the HEPA bag has only a tiny bit of dust in it. The Shapeoko dust boot does a great job of keeping the enclosure clean. My only upgrade is to add a ventilation fan (already purchased) to the back of the enclosure, and plug it into the Festool. That way I can wire a switch to trick the Festool on from my control panel.
I’m sure there is some fluid dynamic loss associated with the thien baffle on the chip separator, but it’s worth it to me to save on the expensive Festool HEPA bags ($35 each). I use the standard Festool hose from the extractor to the chip separator (I purchased a hose adapter kit from Rockler) and a 2.5” hose from the chip separator to the dust boot on the CNC. The suction is good enough that I can easily clean up my work area after a job, if the dust boot missed anything (usually just a very small amount). I hope your enclosure build is going well! Are you happy with how it’s turning out so far?
@@EngineeringWorkshop_hvw It's going well for most part. Hiccups to be expected I used Baltic birch for the top. This tested my patience level in regards to not rushing to finish. I feel like I'm in the home stretch..
Good! I’m glad to hear it. If you already have your CNC and know how to use it, you can cut the enclosure pieces out; this will save you from having to hand fit each piece of polycarbonate like I did. Lots of back and forth to the sander. I’d love to see a picture when you are finished!
I actually created the cutting diagrams manually. I designed everything parametrically, so I just outlined the pieces inside a 4x8 sheet of plywood with their respective variables and made them fit. Now that I know a little more about Fusion360, you could nest the components in the manufacturing workspace.
Hey mate awesome build! I wasn't planing on build an enclosure until I saw your video. Anyway, I know its easy to convert everything but your planes don't happen to have the metric version do they?
Hey! Thanks for the complement. I don’t have a metric version, but I would love to make one. I have designed everything parametrically in Fusion 360, so it will be very easy to convert all dimensions. I haven’t done this yet because I want to use commercially available material sizes, not just converted standard/imperial dimensions. If you could provide me the dimensions for commercially available metric building materials equivalent for: 2x4’s, 3/4 inch plywood, 1/2 in plywood, and 1/4” polycarbonate, I can redo the plans. I’ll send you a free copy of the metric version for your help when I get it finished! You can send me a private message on Etsy to discuss further if you’d like.
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“And I don’t see any smoke, that is surprising “. Confidence restored. 😂👍👍
Nice work. The surprised look on your face when the electrical actually worked reminded me of me. Thank you for your service.
and I may add your work is completly awesome !
Great Job, Thank you very much for your videos!
Soon I will get my CNC from Onefinity
May God protect you!
Good Morning 6-1-24, First thank you for your service from an old Marine, '66/'69. Just received my Shapeoko 4 and before assembly I want a mobile base for my small wood shop and stumbled across your video. Way more than I plan to do for what I need but very much enjoyed watching your work and the fact you are straight up about your mistakes and cures. Subscribed as a Thank You for your service and look forward to following you as time moves along. On this one video I did not see your service branch but regardless, Semper Fi
I'm U.S. Army, branched Special Forces (previously Infantry). I'm a Green Beret that now serves in the U.S. Army Reserves.Thank you for your service and for the channel support. Good luck with your new CNC!!
That’s beautiful! Looking for ideas for the onefinity and this is just what the doctor ordered
You didn’t miss a beat with this enclosure. Outstanding work. 👍👍
First off thank you for your service! Funny thing I just purchased the Shapeoko 4 xxl and I went through the same thing with some of the switches weren’t working and it was very frustrating lol but Oscar at Carbide 3D was awesome and he got me up and running! I’m very interested in your plans for your enclosure.
As someone who took industrial millwright in college, I actually enjoyed doing electrical work. As an aspiring mechanical engineer, I have been doing Autocad and fusion for years now, and many projects. I subscribed and looking forward to watching more videos. Your thought process and the way you go about this project is the way I like to do things. I'll be watching more videos. I'll be building a similar enclosed for my cnc.
Well done video. Plans purchased. Ya, BRCC is awsome. The support a couple of veteran support groups I volunteer with. Most of all from one Vet to another, thank you for your service.
Thank you for the complement, the purchase, and support. BRCC is awesome. If you have any questions about the build, feel free to reach out; I’m always happy to answer questions and learn if I could improve anything about the plans. I’d love to see your enclosure when you get it finished!
It’s nice to see people show their mistakes. Looks nice.
Looks great! Only thing I would suggest is a folding side shelf to place your laptop on. Maybe a bluetooth 10-key pad for fast CNC jogging.
That’s a great idea for an add on. I use a toolbox next to the CNC for my laptop, but I really like the fancy laptop holders I’ve seen made on a CNC.
Dude.. this was awesome! Fantastic build! Had a good laugh as to why you have all the fire suppression. Great job man!
Thank you for sharing!! Very impressive work and craftsmanship! But even more so, for your service!!
You had me at BRCC. And, oh yeah, fantastic build too! Thank you for all the detail and making sure it fits all of those machines.
On one recent project, I also used 1/2" ply as divider. Bad decision. At the end of the day, it's simpler to get a 3/4" ply divider. Very nice project, thanks for sharing it.
Love it! Nice job! Thank you for your service to our country!!
Just ordered that machine this morning and almost ordered a table. So glad this popped up in my feed. Amazing work! I’ll be order the plans.
That is just an awesome build. And Black Rifle Coffee rules.
Good build fella! I’ve just set up my cnc and you’ve inspired me to build something similar. I really like how you’ve wired in and set out the switches, very practical! Great design!
Non-veteran, but a "veteran" #blackriflecoffee drinker for the past 2-3 years. The stuff is awesome.
Wow. Excellent design ! Thanks for sharing 😊 timing is very good. My Onefinity will be here soon.
I've never been a fan of enclosures.
I always thought they would be in the way and with a water cooled spindle and a outside mounted dust collector I didn't see any benefit.... UNTIL NOW!!
This is a fantastic design and my be the design for a new project. As soon as I install my 3DTec-Co X risers on my Shapeoko Pro I'll be measuring. I hope you don't mind answering a gazillion question. Lol!!
Thanks for the complements! I love the enclosure so far; it’s met all of my expectations. I hope you build it. I’m happy to answer any questions, so don’t hesitate to ask!
Very nice and neat job! Thanks for sharing and thanks for your service!!
Nice enclosure. I am trying to design one for my CNC router. However I need to take care of cleaning as I do aluminum milling with coolant and this gets messy. I also need to take care of the noise as the house owner lives on top
Thank you for your service. Great build and great ideas.
Great video. Thanks for posting. Our school was looking for someone to build the exact same enclosure for our xcarve. Was wondering if that was something you would be interested in. Hope to hear from you.
I wanna watch your video so badly right now. I’m making a cut on my machine in my apartment and it’s way loud rn. And your audio is quiet in so many places. I’ll be watching again!
Nice video. Thanks for sharing. I would recommend relocating the smoke detector to outside of the cabinet. It won’t take long for the dust to collect inside the detector and set it off. As an alternative, you could use a heat detector (rate of rise); however I am not sure they are Wi-Fi compatible.
You’re welcome. As far as the smoke detector, I’ve had it in that position since I’ve build it with only two instances of it going off. I went off once for carbon monoxide with no clear reason or indication (we took all necessary precautions) and the second time was when I blew out the enclosure with compressed air - dust was everywhere. I’ve used the CNC with and without dust collection and have never set it off during use.
Well Done! Excellent Job! I'll be subscribing and bell alerts! Thank You!
Thanks for subscribing! I’m glad you liked the video.
I built a PrintNC CNC and it was super fun. I still have no enclosure and I intend to build one like yours. I recommend you get a cheap little label printer (I got a "phomemo" one for $30 and it was invaluable to label wires and cables. I was writing on electrical tape and it was so frustrating. Great purchase. Also recommend you setup a contactor for disconnect rather than the smart switch.
Badass build! Nicely done.
Beautiful work! Your videography continues to improve! I am so proud of you! :)
Could you do a video or share plans for those awesome fixed workbenches in the back???
Over-Engineered Miter Saw Station - Part 2
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I have plans for the whole miter saw station on my Etsy store - benches included!
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Awesome! I was eyeballing the workbenches with the plexiglass cabinets? Thanks so much man.
Nice work. If you're still worried about fire, your enclosure all but eliminates the access to new oxygen that a fire needs.
Great work and great design
Pretty slick, man! I'm very mechanical in nature as well and can do some wild stuff, but slip an electrical diagram in front of me, it might as well be ancient Kanji. Outlet boxes, switches, lights, not a problem. Anything where I have to do frequency or worry about EM signals, uhh... Know your limits, exceed where possible, refer to a professional when you find them. 👍
Very impressive video and plans! I did send you a msg on etsy about the plans. You have a new sub...
Nice job. I just made one myself it helps a lot with dust and noise as well.
Hows the vibration, racking during carves?
Funny, watching this getting ready to build one. I've as well worked with Flemming at Carbide fantastic guy!
Very talented work, great safety. Well done and thanks for sharing this video with us
Great build. I've watched it several times for inspiration and ideas. I am grappling with ideas for rocker switches to control the items. can you show how you installed the switches to the outlets (you can see it a little in the video). Also, how did you hook up the e-stop to your CNC? Does your CNC come with a control box? If so, how did you wire it to the e-stop. I'm looking for electrical advice, just curious how you did yours? thanks again.
Thanks! I sent you a reply on Etsy.
Amazing work. Well done…
might want to do a Decibel Rating on the Enlcosure, I dont know if I missed that in the video.
Testing the sound proofing and displaying that would be very helpfull and i think get you a better review.
Owning my first CNC and looking for videos that is one of the key benefits/reasons for an Enclosure
My very next video has sound testing. In that video I make a Special Forces Detachment Logo for my old SF team.
Just bought a shapeoko pro xxl and started a 5x4 table but wanted to start before I get the package will the front and back be my 5' ?
Thank you for sharing this. Very impressive. Follow-up question if you happen to still check this - does the Festool do OK heat-wise in the closed drawer?
I haven't had any issues so far. I did install a small computer fan in the back of the enclosure cabinet to get some airflow back there. I just wired the fan to my auxiliary switch on my control panel. I'm not sure if this was needed - I ran it for months with out the fan - but it makes me feel better.
Thanks@@EngineeringWorkshop_hvw. That's good to hear, and good tip on the computer fan. I'm thinking I'll try something like that or a bathroom exhaust fan and pipe it outside.
I just finished an adapted wider version of your enclosure, and while this project absolutely kicked my butt as someone new to woodworking, your plans and instructions were really well done and kept me on track. The only issue I've had is the front-top not wanting to slide back... but I suspect it's because I did two drawer slides on the top and probably need to re-align / reinforce for sagging on the back half. Or I just didn't get that piece square, which is very possible.
You mentioned this in another comment, but for anyone else looking at this, I'm also pleasantly surprised at the sound reduction. I'm sure it's not anything like the soundproof-designed enclosures you see on here, but it's completely possible to have a normal level conversation or watch a TV show next to the enclosure while it's running.
Thank you!
Love the comment that you built!
I noticed you have a desk collection in the drawer, What type is that with the extra container?
I'm using a Festool CT15 dust extractor with a thien baffle system on top of a 5-gal bucket (chip separator).
@EngineeringWorkshop_hvw Thank you. I intend to order the file for the cabinet and the drawer. I am waiting for block friday for the shapeoko five pro
Great video I was just looking for something like this probably gonna go by your plans quick question I have the X carve1000 there's a height have your enclosure include upgraded Z axis which I'll probably do in the future.
Thanks! The plans are easy to scale up in the x axis if needed.
why did you choose the Shapoco over the Openbuils?
At the end of the build witch is Awsom.
With everything dust collecting and CNC and so on.
What was the final cost a bought. ?
Thanks! I think somewhere around $1,200.
Great enclosure! I wonder how much noise db has reduced with this design. Any Idea? Maybe a quick video using your phone app. Thanks
Awesome job brother!
This was good... I was wondering... do you have a LAV mic? It would help with your commentary audio volume balance. (your voice is low in volume)
Not yet; I definitely need one though. I’ve been looking and just haven’t found one I like yet.
@@EngineeringWorkshop_hvw if you live near a Best Buy they have one from Sampson that works with your phone! It’s very good for the price! Or you can your EarPods!
Nice video, is it reducing the noise a lot ? thanks :)
Do you have a design plan for the x50 journeyman by chance?
I don’t at this time; sorry! I eventually want to develop those plans, but I think major modifications will be necessary to adequately utilize the space underneath the CNC. Namely, I want to add a third bank of drawers, rather than simply expand the two banks already designed. This will be more time consuming than simply modifying the parametric variables; that’s why I haven’t got to it yet.
For what it's worth, I did the lazy version of this and just added 12 inches of total width, and split the different at 6 extra inches of width to the drawers. It is working well and didn't require any complicated math (I did have to add a middle piece of frame to the front door as I couldn't find an affordable piece of polycarbonate that big... but that was the worst of the adjustments needed).
Will this enclosure work for a longmill MK2 48 x 30?
The Eigen design used 4x4 posts whereas you said you used 2x4. Do you feel you lack any rigidity?
Great build. Thank you for your service. Take care and stay safe.
Nice build! Love all the detailed touches. Sub’d
Great Work...!!! LOL @ "Fire Protection Measures"...
great design!!
Looks great 👍
So Coo,thanks....from Denmark
15:09 No, the good news is that you were not shocked :)
what would you say the weight capacity would by with your build?
Just a guess, anywhere from 500-600 lbs with a safety factor of 2. This is an informed guess based on a weightlifting half rack I built out of 2x4s (build plans available on my Etsy store). I did some analysis of a single 2x4 under compression load, along the grain (2x4 on its end, standing upright; which is similar to the frame of this enclosure) and it can support 500 lbs all by itself, if it isn’t allowed to be cross loaded, or put under an extra torque, etc. With four 2x4’s in the frame, one in each corner, and braced against deflection, I’d say it can easily support 500+ lbs. this assumes the weight is fairly evenly distributed across the top (I.e. not a point load).
In a practical matter, I’ve stood on this enclosure a lot (180lbs) and haven’t experienced any deflection while standing, walking, crawling, etc. it’s rock solid. I’m sure it will hold any CNC that will fit on it.
does anyone know of someone that seels these metal tables that the wood slats sit inside? i dont think they make it for the shapoko 3xl
how rigid is the table for when the CNC is milling?
I haven't measured the table for displacement while milling, but I would heuristically say the entire assembly is very stable. I think the most movement comes from the casters. Also, I don't push my CNC very hard against dense materials - most wood is soft enough that it won't put so much strain into the machine that the table will deflect. Compare this to machining hard metals. Generally speaking, I haven't seen anyone use the proper work-holding on their projects to resist the forces required to flex the work surface the CNC sits on. My point (especially for double sided tape) if the CNC was strong enough to flex the table while milling, it would break the part off the waste board first.
Hello. I have a Onefinity, and plan to use a Festool for my dust collection setup, with a cyclone added. Do you find this is sufficient for suction. Any drawbacks , other than price? How is the noise, and heat?
The Festool has been great so far. Plenty of section with a 2.5” hose going from my chip separator (5 gal bucket with plastic thien baffle) to my router dust boot. The noise is fine tucked away in the enclosure. It’s obviously louder with the drawer open, but still quieter than a shop vac for sure. It does generate heat in the enclosure. To fix this, I’m going to install a fan into the back of the enclosure to exhaust some of the heat. It’s a plug in fan, which I plan to plug into the front of the festool, then wire a switch to my control panel. This will allow me to turn on the vacuum with my switches, rather than pressing the button in the front of the dust extractor.
Muy buen proyecto 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 voy a hacer algo para mi nuevo cnc, tu video me dio muchas ideas 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Good video. Thank You
First, thank you for your service!!!! This is an excellent build. Very well done. I have already purchased the plans to build this for my Shapeoko3 xxl. My biggest concern is controlling dust as I share my garage with my better half. I noticed you are using the Festool dust vac. I am wondering how that is working for you as the cfm is only about 135. Also, any concerns of it over heating being in the cabinet? Thanks for a great video.
The Festool CT15 has been doing great; plenty of suction for a 2.5” dust hose. It’s even doing a great job with the efficiency loss due to the chip separator. As far as the heat generated inside the enclosure, I added a small fan (like a computer fan) to the back and wired it to my auxiliary switch on the control panel. Now I can turn on the exhaust fan and blow out the excess heat. I tried plugging this into the Festool extractor to trigger when the extractor comes on, but the amperage isn’t enough to trigger the “auto on” feature of the extractor.
Great video and great build. I just purchased the plans; however, I will have to modify the build for the Onefinity Journeyman (probably add 10 or so inches vertically). The plans indicate the front draw is for a 5 gallon chip separator. Can you share what you are using for the actual dust collection and where is it located?
Hey John,
Thank you for your purchase and your support. I hope you are happy with the quality of the plans! I absolutely love my CNC enclosure and have received a lot of positive feedback on the resultant builds. I use a Festool CT15 dust extractor and a 5 gallon bucket with a thien baffle for a chip separator. Both of these fit in the “dust collection drawer” (side by side) which is really convenient. Originally I planned for the dust extractor to sit behind the drawer bank in the back of the enclosure (which would definitely work), but was pleasantly surprised by the Festool form factor.
I figured the chip separator would be emptied most often and would be best in the drawer for ease of access. I planned to remote start the dust extractor for use (if it was behind the drawer bank) and would take the drawer out of the enclosure to empty the dust extractor when necessary.
I hope that answers your questions!
Hunter
What spec ops group you with?
The main reason I want to build an enclosure is to reduce the noise. I really like the sliding top but I wonder how much of an impact that has on noise reduction. Any thoughts or observations you have on this?
Hey Ted! Thanks for the complement and comment. The sliding enclosure is definitely not the best sound reduction method out there. I’m sure you’ve already watched videos with locking doors and sound proofing foam on the inside of the enclosure. Those designs will obviously reduce observed sound outside the enclosure more than my design. I chose to prioritize functionality and ease of maintenance (I felt like the foam would be a nightmare to clean the chips and dust off of). With that said, this enclosure significantly reduces observed sound in a garage workshop setting. Most notably, the pitch / whine of the router is lowered, making it more tolerable.
My long term plan for noise reduction is to augment my Shapeoko Pro with a water cooled spindle. I think this will have a greater impact than most enclosure design choices (with exception to the most extreme) on the observed sound outside the enclosure.
To close, I really enjoy the functionality of the sliding top. It gives the feel of an unenclosed CNC while setting up you work holding, vacuuming dust, etc; very convenient. I am happy with the prioritization of ease of use over sound attenuation; it’s quiet enough for me.
I hope this helps!
What blade did you use to cut the plexiglass
A fine tooth (92 teeth) blade for wood.
Can you please share more details or a picture of how you made the front door with the T track and wooden dowel. Did you have a stop on the end to prevent the Front door from coming out of the track? Also, do you have a source of the AFO fire suppression? Thank you
Hey Michael, I have complete plans available on my Etsy store if the following description doesn’t fully answer your question.
I build the front door with half-lap joinery, just making a rectangle to mount the polycarbonate into. I drilled a hole in the outside corner to fit a dowel. This dowel is sized to fit into your t-track. It’s important to use a cylindrical prism, rather than another shape, because once the dowel is glued to the door, it needs to rotate (door opening) and slide along the t-track. To prevent the door from sliding out the front, I glued “edge banding” (a .25” thick and .75” wide strip of oak) onto the edge of the plywood. This covered the exposed end of the t-track embedded in a dado in the sliding enclosure sides.
I’ll provide a link to the AFO ball in the description. I bought it off Amazon.
I hope this helps!
thank you for the prompt response. Great Video I have built the sides already. My challenge is the front door, since I do not have height to do what Mitz did. I had planned on a Barrister Hinge as you have.
Hey, I added a link to a fire suppression product in the description. Apparently the fire suppression ball isn’t available anymore, so I linked an automatic fire suppression tube. The tube is heat activated, rather than flame activated, which is a superior solution.
Also, that’s the first time I’ve heard of a barrister hinge lol. I wish I would have know that so I could have better articulated the design in the video. Oh well, thanks for teaching me!
Bloody brilliant!!
How did you make the polycarbonate pieces for the enclosure?
I cut them out in the table saw and then used a jig saw. If my CNC was working at the time, I would have used that.
Does an enclosure help keep machine noise down?
Yes, it reduces the high pitched “whine” of the router considerably. In my “Special Forces Detachment Logo” video, I have a decibel meter take readings of you are interested.
Great job!
Very cool enclosure! I like how the sides retract. Clever idea with the smoke sensor and smart plug. Can the plug be automatically turned off if the smoke sensor detects smoke? May require IFTTT integration, which also falls into the voodoo realm.
Thank you! I think IFTTT could automate the smart plug. This is my first Google Nest Smoke Alarm, so I can’t say for sure, but I’ve set up a few smart home automations with IFTTT before and could envision it working. I primarily wanted the smart smoke alarm in case I was remotely monitoring the CNC, I might not hear a traditional siren over the running CNC and dust collection; this way, I’ll get a notification on my iPhone and the iPad I’ll be monitoring the CNC with.
Wiring diagram and links to those blue switches?
Twidec/5Pcs Rocker Switch Toggle... www.amazon.com/dp/B08YNP1ZYM?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
TWTADE/AC 440V 10A Red Mushroom... www.amazon.com/dp/B07C4YCYRZ?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
The first link is the blue rocker switches on Amazon. They are automotive switches, but they work well. If you wire power to them, they will light up when on.
The second link is for the emergency stop switch.
I don’t have a wiring diagram for the switches. I watched a bunch of RUclips videos to learn how to do it, and was definitely not confident that it was going to work. I was shocked that it worked the first time. I’m sorry I can’t be more help; I wouldn’t even know how to draw you a proper wiring diagram without more self study.
Looks great! Where are you storing your control box? How effective is the top for noise reduction?
Thanks! I don’t have a VFD spindle yet, so I don’t have a large control box to store. The Shapeoko has controller that mounts to one of the side rails, and I use a BitRunner that mounts to the other side rail. These are within the footprint of the machine and easily fit inside the enclosure.
The top is very effective at reducing noice. I have a video “Special Forces Detachment Logo” where I run a decibel meter and demonstrate the sound reduction.
@@EngineeringWorkshop_hvw Thanks!
Well done! Thank you!
Great build I really like how flexible that enclosure would be.
What hose are you using? It looks way more flexible than the hose I have for mine.
I'm using 2.5" dust hose from Woodcraft. I'm sure you can also get something similar from Rockler, etc., I just liked the color scheme of the Woodcraft one - matches the machine better. It's been great so far. I use a Festool CT-15 dust extractor and an inline thien baffle chip separator beneath my enclosure (large drawer on the left) and the suction has been all I need - keeps everything really clean and I don't recut my chips.
Fantastic video! I just moved and put my CNC in a room in the basement. I saw your comments on someone's question regarding noise reduction. Do you have a sense using your phone with the noise reduction would be between the lid open and the lid closed? Again thanks for sharing! Great design! And most importantly, thank you for your service.
Hey Mark, thanks for the comment and complement on the build. I’ve been meaning to measure the decibels while in use. Next time I fire up the CNC, I’ll take some readings and report back.
@@EngineeringWorkshop_hvw thanks man!
Awesome project! I have a quick question… can you modify the plans to accommodate the 1F journeyman?
Because I did the electrical! So funny!! Hey I have the same machine, does your enclosure reduce the noise?
Hey! Thanks, I’m glad someone gets my jokes lol. It reduces the noise a lot. I’m my Special Forces logo video, I run a decibel meter during different cutting loads to demonstrate the noise with the enclosure. It makes a big difference being in the shop - mostly reduces the high pitched whine from the router and the peak decibels when slot cutting hardwood.
@@EngineeringWorkshop_hvw hey I have the bit zero and bit runner so the router auto turns on n off, was wondering if you have the same add ons and did you have run your vacuum?
I also have the bit runner and bit zero. I like having the router/spindle turn off when the job is complete. The bit zero is just too handy not to have. I use a Festool CT15 as a dust extractor. I run it every time I use the enclosure. The Festool is quite as is, but inside the enclosure it is almost silent.
Beautiful and well thought out design. I’d like to build one … where can I buy your plans?
Thanks!
I have an Etsy store: HuntersEWStore. There is a link in the video description; my phone won’t let me paste the URL in this comment for some reason.
I absolutely love the enclosure - it makes using the CNC easy and enjoyable.
how can i get your latest plans on how to build these
There is a link in the video description to my Etsy store and the latest version of the build plans. Thanks for your interest.
How is your dust collection setup festool vacuum
The Festool is doing great. I’ve only had to empty the 5 gal chip separator once, and the HEPA bag has only a tiny bit of dust in it. The Shapeoko dust boot does a great job of keeping the enclosure clean. My only upgrade is to add a ventilation fan (already purchased) to the back of the enclosure, and plug it into the Festool. That way I can wire a switch to trick the Festool on from my control panel.
@@EngineeringWorkshop_hvw Thanks in process of finishing base. Wasn't sure if chip separator works on same level as vacuum
I’m sure there is some fluid dynamic loss associated with the thien baffle on the chip separator, but it’s worth it to me to save on the expensive Festool HEPA bags ($35 each). I use the standard Festool hose from the extractor to the chip separator (I purchased a hose adapter kit from Rockler) and a 2.5” hose from the chip separator to the dust boot on the CNC. The suction is good enough that I can easily clean up my work area after a job, if the dust boot missed anything (usually just a very small amount).
I hope your enclosure build is going well! Are you happy with how it’s turning out so far?
@@EngineeringWorkshop_hvw It's going well for most part. Hiccups to be expected I used Baltic birch for the top. This tested my patience level in regards to not rushing to finish. I feel like I'm in the home stretch..
Good! I’m glad to hear it. If you already have your CNC and know how to use it, you can cut the enclosure pieces out; this will save you from having to hand fit each piece of polycarbonate like I did. Lots of back and forth to the sander. I’d love to see a picture when you are finished!
Great build! Can I ask what did you use to do the cutting diagrams, thinking Fusion 360 but what add ins? Looks great.
I actually created the cutting diagrams manually. I designed everything parametrically, so I just outlined the pieces inside a 4x8 sheet of plywood with their respective variables and made them fit.
Now that I know a little more about Fusion360, you could nest the components in the manufacturing workspace.
OK that because i did the electrical got me :D now thats relatable
This just became the P in my plan for building a CNC table.
Lol, thanks for the Army joke; that made me smile :)
you're so american i love it
You ever train in Bad Tolz Germany?
No, unfortunately; I've heard there are some cool opportunities out in 1/10th. I'm at 10th main in Colorado. You?
BELLISSIMA! APPLAUSI
u did not show us the demo how much it reduced the noise
It’s in my next video where I make my Special Forces Detachment logo on the CNC.
Awesome👍👍👍
Hey mate awesome build! I wasn't planing on build an enclosure until I saw your video. Anyway, I know its easy to convert everything but your planes don't happen to have the metric version do they?
Hey! Thanks for the complement. I don’t have a metric version, but I would love to make one. I have designed everything parametrically in Fusion 360, so it will be very easy to convert all dimensions. I haven’t done this yet because I want to use commercially available material sizes, not just converted standard/imperial dimensions. If you could provide me the dimensions for commercially available metric building materials equivalent for: 2x4’s, 3/4 inch plywood, 1/2 in plywood, and 1/4” polycarbonate, I can redo the plans. I’ll send you a free copy of the metric version for your help when I get it finished!
You can send me a private message on Etsy to discuss further if you’d like.