Totally agree man. It's taken me years to finally get a space where I can fit an analogue mixer. Routing my MPC's 8 outs into the Ghost desk then using aux sends to various effects for parallel processing has seriously upped my sonic game. Keep up the great vids!
I love that for you. That's an ideal setup. You don't have to overdo it, but depending on the material, you've got options and can really make the most of your mpc. Thanks for watching the video.
Omg bro what a breath of fresh air. I’ve been waiting for someone to do exactly this please please do not stop making videos I’m about to watch all of them in between trying to play catch up to what I have seen you doin with just your work flow and flips. You did not say plug-in once and that easily will make me get on th phone and tell my buddy to subscribe. I could go on and on about how excited I am but I’ll chill. Thank you very much
Thanks! I've seen your setup, and all that outboard gear gives your beats new life. They've got that extra bounce that's hard to get if you only use stereo outs. PEace!
Thanks for the very interesting insight in your studio life. I love the aesthetics overall and your calm way of explaining things. Cheers from Germany and keep it up!
your insight on this topic is incredible. it's not the samples, it's not the gear, it's what you do with the samples, sounds, and gear. i thoroughly enjoyed this, much love.
This is beautiful! You hit it right on the nose, sound is important. Glad I caught this vid. You have a great way of explaining everything. I still dig when I can, definitely a rarity that you don’t see much folks do nowadays.
Great breakdown bro. Hip hop producers of today don’t know how far and how serious it was to have your own sound. The lengths we went through to get it was adventurous and a journey sometimes. 👍🏾
So true. I also find that people just want a sound handed to them. When it's actually the accumulation of several factors, including your taste, but also how you treat your sounds.
@3:26 I felt this to my core! You were considered the elite if you had an MPC. By the time I could actually afford one was when the MPC 1000 came out and it felt weird as hell finally having one.
Right? Folks don't know how good they have it these days. Today, everyone's got multiple drum machines, synths, and endless tools on the computer. Back then...having one drum machine/sampler was a BIG DEAL.
If you are doing multitrack recording, you can synchronize the MPC to your recording. Then you use the 8 outs to add more tracks to your mix, so you don’t have to use up audio tracks. If you are using an analog recorder, you just print MIDI code to one channel of your tape. It requires an extra box, but it’s cheap. You give up one recorded track, but you gain 10 sequence tracks. If you have different instruments, like a bass, and piano, you might want to mix those separately from the drum beat. I got the 8 outs for my 2000xl mainly because that expansion board also has the digital in out
Some great advice in here but there's something magic about the way a lot of MPCs sum the signal to the stereo output, especially when you push it hard. Same goes for clipping the inputs on the way in - tonnes of punch to be gained from doing things this way.
@@eddieleonard6925 oh yes!! Most definitely. I’m definitely trying to achieve the same outcome multitrack out of the MPC live 2. 6outs. Just trying to find a great 6 mono strip mixer
Just got my first mpc (2000xl) and have had a blast learning the ins and outs of it. Just got the 8 outs adapter and found your video when searching on how to make the most of it. Thanks for the tips, found it super helpful!
I'm glad you found this helpful, and I hope it enhances your first MPC experience. Most people only use MPCs for sampling and sequencing, but when you take advantage of its connectivity, it takes the machine to new levels. Enjoy.
Right on brother....i had the expansion boards for an mpc 2000xl back in the 90s, but back then I could only 2 to 4 tracks into my computer simultaneously so I couldn't do anything with it, but now, that would be AMAZING.
I feel your pain. I remember tracking songs 1 or 2 sounds at a time...took FOREVER. 8 simultaneous outs into a mixer or audio interface is a game changer.
Dope but Crazy how you have every channel really separated with individual analog outboard gear before the final destination 👏 I have to give it you it’s really impressive & yes you have a lot more depth to work with how you have it connected💯
I've been getting busy on the XL since 2004, always recorded out of the Stereo L/R Taking about 30-45 mins to track out beats. Im about to install the 8 outs just to cut recording time down to 6-7 minutes. Now, Im about to look for a gutter mixer to run the sounds through before they hit the soundcard.
That's my favorite type of set-up -- mpc --> 8 channel mixer --> soundcard. Even a mackie will do. That was my first ever mixer. Lots of people love these new tascams, too. Stereo outs sound GREAT...but 8 outs gives that extra flexibility and separation. Depending on the track and how you mix while you sample, one might work better than the other.
Just came across your channel and really digging your content. I’m an analog guy as well, 3k owner (1k too) and your videos are so good to watch. Your studio is inspiring. Peace from Texas
So much about this. I came sideways into production from DJing so I already had an Allen and Heath Xone 96. Super modern DJ mixer, 4 channels w 4 band eq (+2 return channels), 2 killer filters w distortion, and connected to my MPC One via USB. That way I’m using the higher quality DACs of the mixer, and access to some great sound shaping and tactile performance options. Recently added an elektron analog heat into the mix and slowly learning how to add that texture.
That sounds like an incredible set-up. Especially for recording live edits and sound sculpting. I've always wanted to incorporate a dj mixer into my rig for this reason. Cheers!
@@eddieleonard6925 Thank you and great channel. i installed the 8 outs myself. there is a certain akai sampler that is cheap and has one in as standard! buy that on ebay , take out the card then open ya mpc and install. its tricky work but works,
When I had my MPC 2000 which I bought used with 8 outputs and 32mb of RAM, I'd mix the separate outs through my Soundtrak Mini Topaz. Sometimes I'd actually have all 10 outputs going at once but that was rare.
@@eddieleonard6925 it's been 19 years since I had that setup. Spilled something in my mixer and I gave most of my hardware to my boy who really needed it. I'd already switched to Reason by then. Ironically I went full circle and bought the MPC Touch 7 years ago. My new Mac wouldn't see it so I now use the MPC One Plus which I love. I now route separate outputs from the MPC software to separate channels in Reason's SSL
Fantastic video about exploring beyond limitations. I haven't tried the 8 outs on my 2000xl yet but plan on doing so as some samples carry too much bass where I/O mix makes management of the sound easier. I have used Stereo Out for so long that it feels normal. Definitely gonna get another mixer to replace my defunct Alto ZMX862 and likely add a compressor of some sort. It all comes down to how the samples are flipped, layered, and pieced together by the end user transform bits from many places into a new piece in the workspace. Keep up the knowledge!!
Thanks for checking this out. Not all 2000xl's have the 8 out expansion, so you're lucky to have that added flexibility. The stereo outs actually sound great on that machine in particular, but depending on the compressor you use, I agree that having more control over bass and general stereo separation should do your music good. And yes, it's all about the mind, not the machine. Cheers,
Hello Eddie, thank you for your knowledge. For my part I used the 8 direct outs for years and today I stopped, and I work with the stereo hands outs. I was wasting too much time mixing and adjusting compressors and effects. Today I work in the opposite direction, that is to say that I sample and I work on my beat I use a channel or two of the direct outs, to equalize or modify and process a sound, and I resample it in the 3000. because the mix is saved in the machine with the sequence, which allows me to work on other beats, without having to mess up the mix in hardware. I use a daw for assembly as well as effects and compressors. I spent too many nights on the 3000 in song mode, I use a dawn in addition to the 3000 for editing. my work and on a Mpc 3000 and an asr 10. i make my beat, i use 1 or 2 out outputs to modify the sound and i resample it for everyone to have in the 3000, the internal mixer is really good. I'm like you at first, I swore only by the hardware vinyls and tapes, but we must admit that the qualitative subtlety is really too subtle for ordinary mortals. Hello from France Mika.
Oh wow, I'll have to try this. I love resampling back into the MPC, and you're right -- the stereo outs are very very good. It sounds like this is a faster workflow for you. What DAW are you using to edit the beats? Merci beaucoup! _ edourd :)
until their souls are starving for authentic art again either that or they're the living dead already and in that case only us immortal have a will with thoughts on immortal crafts that matter anyway... yep
Greetings mi brother, love the video, I’m new to the music business, I got A MPC One and enjoy using it in standalone, I recently purchased a Tascam 12 which I have been using the 8 outputs from the mpc. The question I’m asking I have a stereo amplifier with a pioneer mixer and a CJ400 mp3 deck. Is it possible to connect the Tascam 12 to the amplifier, and can you explain how to connect. The Tascam is the output so I have tried to connect to the AUX from the amplifier to the main on the Tascam, but no sound. I would appreciate if you could help, In your video you mentioned something about inserts. I just want to do my connections right. Can you explain how to do the Connections. Blessings mi brother
hmm...maybe email me with more details. but i guess you could connect the main stereo out of the tascam to any stereo input on the amplifier, which would then connect to your speakers. that way you everything that comes out of the tascam can be controlled by the amplifier. Or, you could have the tascam be the final output, and connect the stereo amp to a pair of inputs on your tascam. The tascam has full connectivity, and there are lots of great videos of how people use them. Between the manual and that I'm sure you'll figure it out. Peace.
RUclips read my mind thinking how I wish I still had my 3k. Definitely agree with you on having that extra control through your mix. Also having your sounds run through an analog signal path is going to give another round of depth that the converters already offer in the 3. Have fun with all that gear and push it to the limit please. Lastly I want to add that I miss the lost art of digging for samples. It was a long and arduous process but it was so beautiful and only furthered my love for all kinds of music.
I couldn't agree more. The process of sampling and beatmaking is a meditation for me. Especially with a machine like the 3000....I'll keep pushing it! Peace.
100 % agree on your point to sound treatment. Artists like James Blake hardly use samples and spend the bulk of their energy in sound design, sculpture and separation. Make each sound its own shining light but still sitting with the whole. Loving what you put out here as I just blew $730 AUD on an 8 out for my MPC 4000 and it hurts.
I'm glad this approach resonates with you. That's a lot of money for 8 outs, but the flexibility is WORTH IT! I've been doing all types of creative routing with 8 outs lately, sometimes sending the same sample through two different outs to layer and apply more effects. It takes theses machines to a new level.
"Hi, I'm____ a sampler, hey sampler, beat maker, producer somebody just who spends way too much of his income on analogue gear." Jajajaja love the whole intro that was clean as hell and memorable and your baby's toes walking on the pad that's freaking epic. Your thing about the eight and analogue outs has been my rant since day one that's the only reason I bought an expensive interface & mixer with with eight and eight, each.
I'm glad this resonated! The stereo outs are cool, too, but there's so much possibility if you track things out with gear, even if its a simple mixer. Cheers!
super rad set up. i have the mpc 1000, but I use the 4 outs with reverbs and distortion. Just started building a rack mount setup because i have a couple small rackmount synths i'm setting up but been scoping out for a compressor also, something i learned while working at the recording studio in college. ive been looking for a 3000 or 2000xl project piece, just for the 8 outs!
That's a solid setup. The 1000 is a great machine. Great form and size. Once you get up to 8 outs, new possibilities open up, for mixing, but you have more than enough to make solid grooves right now. Cheers,
I was against using any daw or even computer for making music. Only MPCs, records and Stereo Outs :D And one day I realised I need more "control". And I bought monitors, audio interface, mixing desek, compressor and vitaliser. I went on different level regarding sound of my beats. I don't really know why I have done it soo late. Now I'm experimenting with connecting different gear via MIDI, as I was always resampling everything. Really great video Man!
Sounds like you have an expansive and functional set-up. I think the key is always advancing and elevating, to push the possibility of your sound, which you're clearly doing. Especially when you add MIDI to the mix. Cheers,
@@eddieleonard6925 nothing crazy expensive. I also have ART Pro VLA 2 Tube compressor. And to boost low frequencies I use SPL Vitalizer mk2T. I really like to process the sound throy Tubes. You have such a nice set up too! MPC 3000 sounds so nice and soft. I need to try MPC 60 and S3000 combo. Take care.
The analog summing from the eight plus the outboard gear is better. I remember sending a bass guitar thru an analog mixer for the first time and be like woah!!
I don't know about the 3K, but the 8 out expansion for the 4K don't sound as good as the stereo output or the headphone jack. The way I used to do it (if I remember right, this was like 10 years ago) was that I just used the stereo outs and somehow had the DAW's transport sync'd up with the MPC's, so if I hit play on the 4K, it would make the DAW play. That way I could just track things in the DAW as I composed the beat. Once it was in the DAW, after editing and applying effects or whatever, I could track the stems out from the RME Fireface interface I had running to a Soundcraft Ghost mixer, where I would do the final mix, and then sum everything to a 2 track stereo mix which would then go back into the computer. I almost never used the MPC's 8 outs. It wasn't that they sounded bad, they just didn't sound great like the stereo outs. The other reason to do it this way was that I only had a single pair of high end preamps. This way everything got saturated as it was tracked into the DAW, which made a big difference sonically when doing the final mix and stacking all those tracks together.
That's a great workaround, especially since you had 2 solid preamps. The stereo outs on the 3000 do have some compression, so that's why people love using them. I think the 8 outs sound great, though. Lately, I've been using the stereo outs as my kick and snare, making it 10 outs total...taking advantage of the stereo compression to make kick and snare punchier. Works great. Never used the 4000, although I always wanted one. Thanks for the note.
Really dope video, thanks for sharing your knowledge. I used to own an MPC 3000 years ago and took for granted having those eight outs because of the built in LP Filter. I just acquired a 60 II, and I'm finding it's absolutely necessary to make use of those eight outs. But this video inspired me to think of all the routing possibilities I have at me disposal now.
I'm glad you're keeping it classic. I had the 60 a long time ago and loved the simplicity and feel of the machine. But unless you're using it for just drums, I agree that the 8 outs are key.
I've debated this for a long time on whether I should get 8 outs for my MPC because it didn't come with it, but this helped out a lot on my decision I gotta get the 8 outs!
Well said! Any solid mix engineer worth their weight will ask for individual channels out to process individually. The real good engineers will also ask for the stereo output to get an idea what the producer/beat maker we’re trying to produce. Great video.
100%. Thanks for noting this. MPC heads tend to overlook tracking out because the stereo outs sounds so good and add their own subtle compression, but I'm 8 outs all day.
@@eddieleonard6925 And it’s okay to overlook when they’re in creative mode. While they’re making the beat, most of the focus should be in producing/creating the beat. Once the beat is done, then they can move on to creative audio manipulation.
Dropping mad knowledge here! Great way to get that sound on the fly...very inspirational! When I got sth to finnish I'll take it over to another lab to mix/master but your way is pure gold👑 salute!
You have a great voice and the video has top-shelf aesthetics. Perhaps you have the equipment needed to start getting your boy into the field/industry of Audio Engineering as well which would be cool as in your boy could run the equipment for school theater and what not. One of my strongest memory while growing up was seeing some men on the end of a Pew in a older church operating the different audio gear in a lighted booth that looked like somebody made in woodshop. I always wondered what those different knobs did.
I appreciate the comment. I've always been fascinated by analog equipment and the folks who work behind the scenes to make magic happen. I still am. My son's already obsessed with all types of buttons, knobs, faders and musical instruments. :)
@@eddieleonard6925 What ever you do, don't let the teachers tell your kid to slow down. If he is passionate about something that could certainly land him in the middle class then seek out experts such as a community college professor. I had this teacher who yelled at other students & I in the mid 1990s for getting the lesson completed in a computer lab. The other kids struggled login into the computer network while I was following the instructions on the whiteboard. We were using a thinkpad cart. The teacher should have encouraged the parents to push students to try some computer programing courses with computer languages tailored for small children. Today we have Khan Academy so if your kid is a brilliant mathematician he or she could push themselves such as algebra in the 4th grade when the other kids struggle with their multiplication table. Speaking of gear I'm sorta thinking about getting into photography as a new hobby because I'm discovering that there is so much cool gear out there. For instance I like the sigma FP-l camera for not only having great looking performance, but that form factor looks so versatile. for instance it looks like a compact to build a slick rig for something like the following. old.reddit.com/r/space/comments/lzejo5/i_developed_a_unique_method_for_processing_images/
I’ve always used 8 outs when I had the 4K, but now since I have the X it really doesn’t matter since you can boost up each sound from within. You don’t even have to use them for tracking out, but they still have them
@@eddieleonard6925 it is dope for sure. But to have an old-school smoking library like you've got so this week and put on the velour jacket and plug it in the right way when there's time is awesome. You can hear professional, master, recording, artist, and engineers, like Stanley Clarke not all recordings are equal even of the masters. What are my favorite recordings is Stanley Clarke goodbye pork pie hat by Miles Davis. It's an 80s recording people just you can just hear it. They took a lot of time to do it. It's just pristine. But definitely nice to be able to quickly do something when you need to go to crazy fast pace world
The analog 8-Output is Definitely better. Amazing!!! You treat each track-out like a real instrument using all that gear to color the sound. Thanks for sharing.
A new trick I just learned is actually using all 10 outputs, 8 individual plus stereo outs (which have more compression on them). And yes, this way, each track gets its own treatment in the one-man-band. Cheers,
@@eddieleonard6925 Oh wow! But wait..: what are you doing with the compressed stereo out? Is it part of the 8-track out recording? Or are you recording it as a separate individual compressed song?
@@ONEHENDRIX i turn down all the faders on the "main mix" (stereo mix) and turn up the one i want in the stereo out. pan hard L or R, and it makes 2 more outputs, that you can track at the same time.
E-A Ski brought up the 8 outs a few weeks ago and that led me to researching them. Just getting started with an mpc one and headphones staying within the box itself and avoiding a daw for now. Can an audio interface take advantage of the 8 outs or should I grab a mixer to start my journey? Thanks for the video and have a nice day.
Congrats on getting an mpc one. With that machine, you can do everything within the box and it'll sound great. Devices now have "usb audio" which allows you to route your sounds into a computer without needing 8 analog outs. It may depend on the audio interface you use. That's a much cleaner, streamlined set up that still gives you control. Grabbing a mixer is just a more tactile way of achieving the same results. Tascam's new line of analog mixers might be a good best-of-both-worlds. Hope this helps. enjoy that mpc one!
Man I love this channel. I rearranged my setup so my 3k is now the centerpiece because of it. Ableton and Maschine are now it’s satellites. But new levels new devils. My SSL SIX (mk 1) is become not so necessary. Too many hoops not enough EQ. If I grab a vintage 4 band 8/16 in mixer it’ll be sauce up in here. Thank you brother! I love your scientific approach.
Sounds like you have a proper setup. With those pieces specifically, you can easily change it up if you need to flip the work flow. Get that mixer! It's a game changer. Your 3k will thank you. Peace!
wow your chilled way of explaining is so nice. and inspiring. i've never utilized multi outs from my live 2 but guess what i'ma do tomorrow. thanks man. peace 🙏
Thank u for checking this out. How many outs does the Live2 have? Lemme know how it goes! It's a slept on option with tons of creative possibilities. Peace.
@@eddieleonard6925 hey the Live2 has 6 outputs (tho the software says 8 but i think that's only valid for "bigger" mpcs? But I got to output my kick seperately through my pro VLA comp which is soo much fun. I share your love for outboard gear btw ;) take care and please put out more stuff like this from time to time :) 🙏🏻
My XL doesnt have the 8 outs, but I don't know if you tried this but I have been doing everything in Mono. so like sample in L in and send the L out into 1 channel into my mixer. I track out one track at a time, but do the arrange in my DAW so I just grab a few versions of 8 bars per sound, which makes it pretty fast. When I run the sound through the mixer I use stereo outboard gear and change the EQ per the sound. But mainly was curious if you tried just a mono out since it is like using 8 outs but just the L from the stereo mains. It's an interesting way to make the drums slam down the middle and then widen up the synths and other stuff with stereo verbs, delays, compressors. Awesome channel!
Oh that's dope. This is a very creative approach. I recently started using the stereo outs as 2 extra outputs, panning L or R to give me 10 outputs total. Do you find that the stereo outs are better for drums? It's rumored that they have more compression on them, so maybe I should switch my drums to those outputs, rather than outputs 1-2. Thanks for the tip!
@@eddieleonard6925 Good question, I have to use them since it's all I have .haha. I will mess with using both Left an Right outs versus just using the Left/mono like I described and let you know what I discover.
When I first had a 3000 back in the dy, I never really like using the 8 outs cos it felt like it unglued what was coming out the stereo and meant I had to put it all back together to get what i like to call that 'baked in' sound. Mind you, I was going into the DAW via a digital Mackie dest (which I hated). Now I know a lot more and I'm kiciking myself that I don't currently have a 3000. When I do though? Pshh...
the 3000 sounds great, whether you use the stereo outs or the 8 outs. 8 outs is more work, but I really dig the results, plus you can use the stereo outs in addition to the 8..to give you 10 total. Happy producing, fam. No matter what you use, just make it funky.
Dope video and commentary! So far I’ve just used the stereo outs on any of the MPCs I’ve experimented with. I primarily used the Roland/Boss SP series of samplers as effects boxes to add texture to the sound (such as compression or the nice vinyl sim effects). Good points about the 8-outs allowing more flexibility in experimentation and sound design. Gotta try it soon (I don’t have an 8-channel mixer at this point). Nice work
Thanks, bro! The stereo outs have a magic of their own, but imagine this: running outs 1 & 2 into an SP OG, then outputs 3 & 4 into a 303, and outs 5 & 6 into the new SP....then you could rock 3 sets of stereo effects on a single beat. We might have to collab on that...could make some interesting textures.
Yes, if i could afford to, I'd have even more rs124's. They are by far, my favorite compressor. I have an AML Pultec clone. Sounds fantastic and affordable. Can build them yourself or buy them assembled.
Mix out of the 8 outs into your console, do your thang, then slam it back in the MPC and push it through the stereo outs. Then you get the best of both worlds and all the perks would you not?
Yeah that one of the reasons I installed the 8 mixout board on my 2000xl cause it enhanced sound better than using the stereo out , that’s why "Marco Polo"beats sound so Rich and warmth
So true. It's a slept on feature of all mpcs. The 2000xl was my first mpc, but I didn't have the expansion board...didn't realize what I was missing until I upgraded to the 3000.
It don't enhance your sound, timbaland used to literally say the opposite (to use stereo outs and not 8 outs) and that was just as bullshit. Beat making is about sound selection, period. and I can guarantee you that Marco polo does not sound like Marco polo because he uses 8 outs
absolutely dope video. im wanting pick up a mpc i found for cheap. being told not too. but ive been wanting one for a long time. its a mpc 2000 for 350. or should i just get the new mpcs due to storge? floppys compared to thumb drive. that beat is absolutely dope!!
Thank u! I have an mpc 2000 and even though it's limited compared to the new mpcs....i love the way the drums hit. An mpc 2000 for $350 is a great deal, imo. But you can't go wrong either way. Let me know what you end up choosing...peace!
@@eddieleonard6925 I keep being told to go for the 2000XL and I found one for 450 features and storage. Then I found a MPC ONE for 360. Ugghhh!! Which one should I go for?
Thanks for sharing, Eddie. We seem to have similar musical beliefs. "Individual" outs are the way to go regardless of what you're recording into...IMO Subbed!!!
Great idea...I love using submixers. Then you can group sounds, like drums and bass together, for example, since the sp1200 has 8 outs. You've def got options.
@@eddieleonard6925 I just bought a Sennheiser M8. I like your old Allen heath. I want to saturate transformers. Glue things together a bit. I wish I had 30 thousand right now. That would be just about right
@@frankjamesbonarrigo7162 How does the m8 sound??? Fully working? Saturating transformers is one of the secrets to "fuller" sound. I do this as much as possible, using any old equipment I can find, usually in serial.
@@eddieleonard6925 Thanks man. I been lookim for something that has a little more analog character than the modern makie, berhinger, ect. Stay blessed brother
I’ve had 2 mpcs both the classic 2000 and the XL. I haven’t sampled a record in one of them coming up on a decade now because they have no out… it has to go thru the s950
@@eddieleonard6925 absolutely. When I have the money I’ll install 8out in the 2000 and move from 16 to a 32 track mix. Just had to replace floppy drive for the 3rd time on the 950, got a emulator this time
Question. There is a resurgence of buying older samplers like the Sp1200 and the mpc3000. If I make my tracks in mpc live 2 and feed them through gear like yours, will I be able to mimic the sound of a vintage sampler or should I just spend the money to get a vintage sampler?
Great question. With plug-ins and good mixing, you can actually make an mpc live sound like a 3000. It just takes more work to do what the mpc3000 and mpc60 do naturally. This is not the case with the SP1200 or akai s950. No plug-in or mixing can really replicate that sampling engine & conversion. In that case, it would make a big difference if you ran your tracks through them. I wish I understood why, but samples (drums especially) sound 10x better when running through an s950 or an sp1200. I used to own an sp1200 and all I did was run drum samples through it to achieve that "sound." Hope this helps,
Is there a way to use DAW with analog outputs from outboard and use midi to control outboard gear through daw? I’m able to accomplish this with input connections from outboard gear into an interface, but was wondering can it all be done using analog?
I always change my setup, but yes..i send those stereo outs back into my interface, where I can save them and make any edits. I hope this answers your question.
This is a great video. I agree with everything you said. I'm telling you back in the 90s every piece for me had to either be put on layaway or bought from a homie (ASR10, MPC, etc). Very expensive then. Now thanks to the computer and easy financing, a person with no musical interest can create an entire album (my opinion). The sound and sonics is important and I'm glad you mentioned that. Everything that is mainstream to me sounds the same. That is not good in my book 📚
Well said. Anyone can create an entire album, as long as they know what they're doing with the equipment they have. I'm still learning equipment I've owned for years. You're spot on about how everything in the mainstream sounds the same. It might be because everyone's using the same instruments in the same daws, and processing their sounds in the same way, rather than taking the time to develop a more nuanced sound.
@@eddieleonard6925 yes. There is alot of fastfood music 🎶🎶 in and out just to make a $$. There is no thought or creativity. The Daws make you rely on your eyes and not your ears aka SONICS. Sigh I can talk about this for days and will get beat up about it. I'm much older and enjoyed struggling with 5 sec sample time on my Sp12 lol.
Great video, I personally liked the sound of the stereo outs in this test, but you are right, exporting to mixer gives you more control…on the way out.. although, the same can be said if you stem it out and open in DAW and then pan etc.. so end of the day, it’s all about what workflow you feel most comfortable with…you can achieve the same results doing things either way.. just do what you like.. is how I feel..I subbed, nice channel
Totally agree. What I miss most about sending stems to a daw is the ability to easily double tracks, creating more layering and processing options. That takes much more work to achieve in the analog domain.
"Everybody can make any sound or get any sound so nowadays, it's about how you treat that sound" omg ok nohomo but 😍😎😆😆😂 it was the truth and you put it so well I can almost smell the steak cooking! Bravo 👏
Defiantly control. I wish modern samplers like the octatrack had individual track outs, would make mixing much more efficient. if you make a mistake whilst recording in stereo you can’t remove it amongst the other layers in the arrangement. Absolutely agree about flipping and treatment being important too. Excellent content and beat crafting.
Thanks for checking this out. There's nothing wrong with devices that sum internally to stereo outs, but it would be a game changer if they had individuals outs. I've never used an octatrack, but i imagine it must have great internal mixing, and is more portable than a giant MPC.
Agreed man, they both have advantages. The octatrack is pretty cool for internal mixing and the portability is nice considering its multiple uses. Cheers
Super Dope Vid just found your channel and I love it! gained a sub for sure. I do have question you are talking about running your individual tracks from your mpc to other analog processing are you running those outputs from the mpc directly to the outboard (Eq, Comp, Etc) then the outputs of the gear back to the board or are you using some sort of insert or send from your board to handle that? Thank you so much! Peace
Thanks for checking the channel. Yes, I run my individual outs directly to the outboard gear, then into my board. This works for me because I always keep the same sorts of sounds/samples/instruments on certain tracks. You do the same?
@@eddieleonard6925 I actually do! The board I use currently (Tascam M520) is 99% RCAs so I was having trouble finding cabling to support the insert points with my outboard so I started just running directly to the outboard through my 8 outs, I use a Patch bay as well so it does make it easy to change things if I need but I've got a main program saved for my 2000xl that has my routing saved that I use most of the time. I'm just glad to see someone else doing that. I came up always using insert points on a board. Only thing I've noticed is for some of my gear I really have to pull back the individual outs so I'm not clipping the gear (unless that's the vibe) Thanks for the reply.
Thank you for the video, it’s a subject that is not that well commented. It’s a real dilema going all analog vs processing into the DAW. Some producers also mox into the mpc amd route the stereo outs into outboard gear with nice results. Put of curiosity, what mixer so you use? Peace
True. Great points. Sometimes I actually prefer the stereo outs with a simple "glue" compressor, but there's so many options when you use all 8 outs. The mixer is an Allen and Heath Quasi mixer, from the '70s. Cheers
I remember back in the day, as soon as we got reliable stereo, noone touched analog anymore. Isnt it funny how we now chase that stuff, but back in those actual times it was the opposite
So this is what I was trying to develop a scientific test for. By the time your digitally saved sample goes through your chain of analog i/o and goes all the way around the choo-choo track to the speaker and of course, the thing that really matters finally to your ear... Do you think it has introduced enough chaos like the Fibonacci sequence to wear that digital sample has now become a completely organic analog, sound? But you're running it as a master stereo outs. Perhaps this would have to be done before hand in someway is kind of where I am experimenting right now. I'm going to say probably, maybe or mostly perhaps yes. I have never seen a video like this that's you're doing what I want to do but I've got some other angles and you do too.
Let me know how the experiment goes! I need to try this again...what I didn't realize was how much the overall experience factored into the end result. Sonically, I think that with a little bit more work, you can get digital to sound the same as vinyl, but I still need to try a stricter test. Peace!
@@eddieleonard6925 there is definitely something to be felt in an a ritual/tradition. Digital is better for laser cut surgery and speed many times it's also predictable with zero noise floor But rarely do i want skittles when its meat time for steak. Just wont do. There's no straight lines in nature, bit depth, is it to our ears pixels are to tvs. I think this is precisely what makes the NPC so cool because you get the benefit of digital but yet it's really 80% a piece of analog gear and it's pushing that digital sample through analog hardware. I don't know how exactly does it it's more than just an amp. I was just arguing with a Grammy winning Brazil jazz engineer about this and I know I'm right he's wrong. 😂
Totally agree man. It's taken me years to finally get a space where I can fit an analogue mixer. Routing my MPC's 8 outs into the Ghost desk then using aux sends to various effects for parallel processing has seriously upped my sonic game. Keep up the great vids!
I love that for you. That's an ideal setup. You don't have to overdo it, but depending on the material, you've got options and can really make the most of your mpc. Thanks for watching the video.
So you're running your mpc to your mixing board using your mpc 8 outs
Will try
Have a lot of work to do
Omg bro what a breath of fresh air. I’ve been waiting for someone to do exactly this please please do not stop making videos I’m about to watch all of them in between trying to play catch up to what I have seen you doin with just your work flow and flips. You did not say plug-in once and that easily will make me get on th phone and tell my buddy to subscribe. I could go on and on about how excited I am but I’ll chill.
Thank you very much
Yo I really appreciate that. It's nice to know there are others who see this form of music in similar ways.
Each channel going through its own piece of gear is deep
it complicates things but also creates so many new possibilities.
I totally agree bro! Always the 8 outputs for the controls.
And like you said, processing with outboard gear is key for a own sound.
Cheers!
Thanks! I've seen your setup, and all that outboard gear gives your beats new life. They've got that extra bounce that's hard to get if you only use stereo outs. PEace!
Thanks for the very interesting insight in your studio life. I love the aesthetics overall and your calm way of explaining things. Cheers from Germany and keep it up!
Much appreciation and respect! Thanks for checking this out. I hope to share some more audio experiments soon!
your insight on this topic is incredible. it's not the samples, it's not the gear, it's what you do with the samples, sounds, and gear. i thoroughly enjoyed this, much love.
Totally agree. Hopefully more people apply this mindset to their music. Peace & thank u
This is beautiful! You hit it right on the nose, sound is important. Glad I caught this vid. You have a great way of explaining everything. I still dig when I can, definitely a rarity that you don’t see much folks do nowadays.
Glad this resonates. Just sharing my perspective on sound. The MPC is capable of a lot more than simple loops and basic sampling. Cheers,
This video really boosted my mindset man. Really appreciate you.
Great breakdown bro. Hip hop producers of today don’t know how far and how serious it was to have your own sound. The lengths we went through to get it was adventurous and a journey sometimes. 👍🏾
So true. I also find that people just want a sound handed to them. When it's actually the accumulation of several factors, including your taste, but also how you treat your sounds.
@@eddieleonard6925 I agree
@3:26 I felt this to my core! You were considered the elite if you had an MPC. By the time I could actually afford one was when the MPC 1000 came out and it felt weird as hell finally having one.
Right? Folks don't know how good they have it these days. Today, everyone's got multiple drum machines, synths, and endless tools on the computer. Back then...having one drum machine/sampler was a BIG DEAL.
If you are doing multitrack recording, you can synchronize the MPC to your recording. Then you use the 8 outs to add more tracks to your mix, so you don’t have to use up audio tracks.
If you are using an analog recorder, you just print MIDI code to one channel of your tape. It requires an extra box, but it’s cheap. You give up one recorded track, but you gain 10 sequence tracks.
If you have different instruments, like a bass, and piano, you might want to mix those separately from the drum beat.
I got the 8 outs for my 2000xl mainly because that expansion board also has the digital in out
thanks for this tip. I never thought to use the digital outs, but that makes a lot of sense.
Some great advice in here but there's something magic about the way a lot of MPCs sum the signal to the stereo output, especially when you push it hard. Same goes for clipping the inputs on the way in - tonnes of punch to be gained from doing things this way.
Second that -- I love clipping drums in the MPC. And yes, the stereo outs work just fine, as long as your mix is fairly balanced.
A nice “glue” compressor on the mixer bus might do the trick? :)
im glad i found this video. i have 8outs on mine and havent even thought about an effects processor since i pawned mine over 10 years ago
It might open up a new world for you. Worth a try! Thanks for checkin in.
Great minds think alike. I agree with you on how sounds get treated. Salute to you
Thank u. And this applies to any drum machine or even synthesizer...folks need to get creative with the connectivity. It's there for a reason...
Yo this has been the greatest beat-making gear video in a long while not gonna lie. Definitely give u a sub.
I appreciate you checking this. Means a lot. Hope this gave you some ideas, inspo, or anything...peace!
@@eddieleonard6925 oh yes!! Most definitely. I’m definitely trying to achieve the same outcome multitrack out of the MPC live 2. 6outs. Just trying to find a great 6 mono strip mixer
Just got my first mpc (2000xl) and have had a blast learning the ins and outs of it. Just got the 8 outs adapter and found your video when searching on how to make the most of it. Thanks for the tips, found it super helpful!
I'm glad you found this helpful, and I hope it enhances your first MPC experience. Most people only use MPCs for sampling and sequencing, but when you take advantage of its connectivity, it takes the machine to new levels. Enjoy.
I have an MPC 2K XL and would like to route my MPC X through it to enhance my sound. Do I midi or do I use the outs/ins to achieve this
@@jayjohnson9894 MIDI doesn't carry an audio signal, just data. But you can chain them to trigger each other.
Your beats are beautiful and very well executed
Glad you dig the sounds.
right!
love my 2000xl and its 8 outs for the access on my mixer and add on eq, fx, pan, etc etc...
2000xl was my first mpc, but without the 8 outs. That setup is all you need to make some heat.
This channel is absolutely amazing. Great work!!! Your collection of gear is well curated and inspiring!
Thank you. I really appreciate that, and will keep sharing techniques, thoughts and experiments whenever I can. Thanks for tuning in..
Loving this.
Thanks, much appreciated.
Right on brother....i had the expansion boards for an mpc 2000xl back in the 90s, but back then I could only 2 to 4 tracks into my computer simultaneously so I couldn't do anything with it, but now, that would be AMAZING.
I feel your pain. I remember tracking songs 1 or 2 sounds at a time...took FOREVER. 8 simultaneous outs into a mixer or audio interface is a game changer.
Dope but Crazy how you have every channel really separated with individual analog outboard gear before the final destination 👏 I have to give it you it’s really impressive & yes you have a lot more depth to work with how you have it connected💯
the stereo outs also sound fantastic and glue everything together well, but it's nice to know all of the routing options you have on these machines.
I've been getting busy on the XL since 2004, always recorded out of the Stereo L/R Taking about 30-45 mins to track out beats. Im about to install the 8 outs just to cut recording time down to 6-7 minutes. Now, Im about to look for a gutter mixer to run the sounds through before they hit the soundcard.
That's my favorite type of set-up -- mpc --> 8 channel mixer --> soundcard. Even a mackie will do. That was my first ever mixer. Lots of people love these new tascams, too. Stereo outs sound GREAT...but 8 outs gives that extra flexibility and separation. Depending on the track and how you mix while you sample, one might work better than the other.
Just came across your channel and really digging your content. I’m an analog guy as well, 3k owner (1k too) and your videos are so good to watch. Your studio is inspiring. Peace from Texas
Appreciate you checking it out! I used to have a 1k, too! Keep jamming...
Along for the long road. Thank you, glad to be here. Video is great, your beat as well. Peace
Glad you enjoyed. Thanks for the feedback.
This is truly inspiring I'm gonna put my vintage Yamaha mc1202 mixer to use with my Mpc X.
That's gonna be fun! I love vintage Yamahas. Overlooked, affordable...great sounds
Superb disclosure on the workflow and it's advantages
Thanks for checking. Just my 2 cents
So much about this. I came sideways into production from DJing so I already had an Allen and Heath Xone 96. Super modern DJ mixer, 4 channels w 4 band eq (+2 return channels), 2 killer filters w distortion, and connected to my MPC One via USB. That way I’m using the higher quality DACs of the mixer, and access to some great sound shaping and tactile performance options. Recently added an elektron analog heat into the mix and slowly learning how to add that texture.
That sounds like an incredible set-up. Especially for recording live edits and sound sculpting. I've always wanted to incorporate a dj mixer into my rig for this reason. Cheers!
this is definitely the way. always depends what you put the outs through. you want your bass dead mono so the mono outs a key for that. great video
absolutely. great point.
@@eddieleonard6925 Thank you and great channel. i installed the 8 outs myself. there is a certain akai sampler that is cheap and has one in as standard! buy that on ebay , take out the card then open ya mpc and install. its tricky work but works,
When I had my MPC 2000 which I bought used with 8 outputs and 32mb of RAM, I'd mix the separate outs through my Soundtrak Mini Topaz. Sometimes I'd actually have all 10 outputs going at once but that was rare.
love that! this is exactly how i use my mpc3000 right now -- all 10 outs. Lots of flexibility for mixing and processing.
@@eddieleonard6925 it's been 19 years since I had that setup. Spilled something in my mixer and I gave most of my hardware to my boy who really needed it. I'd already switched to Reason by then. Ironically I went full circle and bought the MPC Touch 7 years ago. My new Mac wouldn't see it so I now use the MPC One Plus which I love. I now route separate outputs from the MPC software to separate channels in Reason's SSL
Fantastic video about exploring beyond limitations. I haven't tried the 8 outs on my 2000xl yet but plan on doing so as some samples carry too much bass where I/O mix makes management of the sound easier. I have used Stereo Out for so long that it feels normal. Definitely gonna get another mixer to replace my defunct Alto ZMX862 and likely add a compressor of some sort. It all comes down to how the samples are flipped, layered, and pieced together by the end user transform bits from many places into a new piece in the workspace. Keep up the knowledge!!
Thanks for checking this out. Not all 2000xl's have the 8 out expansion, so you're lucky to have that added flexibility. The stereo outs actually sound great on that machine in particular, but depending on the compressor you use, I agree that having more control over bass and general stereo separation should do your music good. And yes, it's all about the mind, not the machine. Cheers,
Hello Eddie, thank you for your knowledge. For my part I used the 8 direct outs for years and today I stopped, and I work with the stereo hands outs. I was wasting too much time mixing and adjusting compressors and effects. Today I work in the opposite direction, that is to say that I sample and I work on my beat I use a channel or two of the direct outs, to equalize or modify and process a sound, and I resample it in the 3000. because the mix is saved in the machine with the sequence, which allows me to work on other beats, without having to mess up the mix in hardware. I use a daw for assembly as well as effects and compressors. I spent too many nights on the 3000 in song mode, I use a dawn in addition to the 3000 for editing. my work and on a Mpc 3000 and an asr 10. i make my beat, i use 1 or 2 out outputs to modify the sound and i resample it for everyone to have in the 3000, the internal mixer is really good. I'm like you at first, I swore only by the hardware vinyls and tapes, but we must admit that the qualitative subtlety is really too subtle for ordinary mortals. Hello from France Mika.
Oh wow, I'll have to try this. I love resampling back into the MPC, and you're right -- the stereo outs are very very good. It sounds like this is a faster workflow for you. What DAW are you using to edit the beats? Merci beaucoup! _ edourd :)
until their souls are starving for authentic art again either that or they're the living dead already and in that case only us immortal have a will with thoughts on immortal crafts that matter anyway... yep
@@TheOwlHead yup
Greetings mi brother, love the video, I’m new to the music business, I got
A MPC One and enjoy using it in standalone, I recently purchased a Tascam 12 which I have been using the 8 outputs from the mpc.
The question I’m asking I have a stereo amplifier with a pioneer mixer and a CJ400 mp3 deck.
Is it possible to connect the Tascam 12 to the amplifier, and can you explain how to connect. The Tascam is the output so I have tried to connect to the AUX from the amplifier to the main on the Tascam, but no sound.
I would appreciate if you could help, In your video you mentioned something about inserts.
I just want to do my connections right.
Can you explain how to do the Connections.
Blessings mi brother
hmm...maybe email me with more details. but i guess you could connect the main stereo out of the tascam to any stereo input on the amplifier, which would then connect to your speakers. that way you everything that comes out of the tascam can be controlled by the amplifier. Or, you could have the tascam be the final output, and connect the stereo amp to a pair of inputs on your tascam. The tascam has full connectivity, and there are lots of great videos of how people use them. Between the manual and that I'm sure you'll figure it out. Peace.
RUclips read my mind thinking how I wish I still had my 3k. Definitely agree with you on having that extra control through your mix. Also having your sounds run through an analog signal path is going to give another round of depth that the converters already offer in the 3. Have fun with all that gear and push it to the limit please. Lastly I want to add that I miss the lost art of digging for samples. It was a long and arduous process but it was so beautiful and only furthered my love for all kinds of music.
I couldn't agree more. The process of sampling and beatmaking is a meditation for me. Especially with a machine like the 3000....I'll keep pushing it! Peace.
100 % agree on your point to sound treatment. Artists like James Blake hardly use samples and spend the bulk of their energy in sound design, sculpture and separation. Make each sound its own shining light but still sitting with the whole.
Loving what you put out here as I just blew $730 AUD on an 8 out for my MPC 4000 and it hurts.
I'm glad this approach resonates with you. That's a lot of money for 8 outs, but the flexibility is WORTH IT! I've been doing all types of creative routing with 8 outs lately, sometimes sending the same sample through two different outs to layer and apply more effects. It takes theses machines to a new level.
"Hi, I'm____ a sampler, hey sampler, beat maker, producer somebody just who spends way too much of his income on analogue gear." Jajajaja love the whole intro that was clean as hell and memorable and your baby's toes walking on the pad that's freaking epic.
Your thing about the eight and analogue outs has been my rant since day one that's the only reason I bought an expensive interface & mixer with with eight and eight, each.
I'm glad this resonated! The stereo outs are cool, too, but there's so much possibility if you track things out with gear, even if its a simple mixer. Cheers!
@@eddieleonard6925 i could here the difference instantly. The "pixels" disappear.
super rad set up. i have the mpc 1000, but I use the 4 outs with reverbs and distortion. Just started building a rack mount setup because i have a couple small rackmount synths i'm setting up but been scoping out for a compressor also, something i learned while working at the recording studio in college. ive been looking for a 3000 or 2000xl project piece, just for the 8 outs!
That's a solid setup. The 1000 is a great machine. Great form and size. Once you get up to 8 outs, new possibilities open up, for mixing, but you have more than enough to make solid grooves right now. Cheers,
sadge, i wish my 2000xl have 8 outs too. need to invest for it
solid machine with a great groove. you don't need it to make beats, but it's got a legendary feel.
I was against using any daw or even computer for making music. Only MPCs, records and Stereo Outs :D And one day I realised I need more "control". And I bought monitors, audio interface, mixing desek, compressor and vitaliser. I went on different level regarding sound of my beats. I don't really know why I have done it soo late. Now I'm experimenting with connecting different gear via MIDI, as I was always resampling everything. Really great video Man!
Sounds like you have an expansive and functional set-up. I think the key is always advancing and elevating, to push the possibility of your sound, which you're clearly doing. Especially when you add MIDI to the mix. Cheers,
@@eddieleonard6925 nothing crazy expensive. I also have ART Pro VLA 2 Tube compressor. And to boost low frequencies I use SPL Vitalizer mk2T. I really like to process the sound throy Tubes. You have such a nice set up too! MPC 3000 sounds so nice and soft. I need to try MPC 60 and S3000 combo. Take care.
The analog summing from the eight plus the outboard gear is better. I remember sending a bass guitar thru an analog mixer for the first time and be like woah!!
I agree. Gives you more ability to really shape the sound to your taste.
I don't know about the 3K, but the 8 out expansion for the 4K don't sound as good as the stereo output or the headphone jack. The way I used to do it (if I remember right, this was like 10 years ago) was that I just used the stereo outs and somehow had the DAW's transport sync'd up with the MPC's, so if I hit play on the 4K, it would make the DAW play. That way I could just track things in the DAW as I composed the beat. Once it was in the DAW, after editing and applying effects or whatever, I could track the stems out from the RME Fireface interface I had running to a Soundcraft Ghost mixer, where I would do the final mix, and then sum everything to a 2 track stereo mix which would then go back into the computer. I almost never used the MPC's 8 outs. It wasn't that they sounded bad, they just didn't sound great like the stereo outs. The other reason to do it this way was that I only had a single pair of high end preamps. This way everything got saturated as it was tracked into the DAW, which made a big difference sonically when doing the final mix and stacking all those tracks together.
That's a great workaround, especially since you had 2 solid preamps. The stereo outs on the 3000 do have some compression, so that's why people love using them. I think the 8 outs sound great, though. Lately, I've been using the stereo outs as my kick and snare, making it 10 outs total...taking advantage of the stereo compression to make kick and snare punchier. Works great. Never used the 4000, although I always wanted one. Thanks for the note.
They going a Ea-ski for this information you just summed up very eloquently well spoken bro👍👍
Glad this was helpful! Appreciate you tuning in.
EA Ski is very informative and covers a variety of subjects, his consultation where you get more technical information
Baby on the MPC pads was the best thing I've seen all day
teaching him early.
Really dope video, thanks for sharing your knowledge. I used to own an MPC 3000 years ago and took for granted having those eight outs because of the built in LP Filter. I just acquired a 60 II, and I'm finding it's absolutely necessary to make use of those eight outs. But this video inspired me to think of all the routing possibilities I have at me disposal now.
I'm glad you're keeping it classic. I had the 60 a long time ago and loved the simplicity and feel of the machine. But unless you're using it for just drums, I agree that the 8 outs are key.
dope beat and chilled way of explaining! subscribed
Yo, I appreciate that! Thanks for checking it out.
I've debated this for a long time on whether I should get 8 outs for my MPC because it didn't come with it, but this helped out a lot on my decision I gotta get the 8 outs!
The machine sounds dope with or without them, but 8 outs adds so much flexibility to really carve out your sound. Glad this helped!
100% agree great video
Thanks! Glad it resonates
Good stuff bro. Always glad to find someone who is passionate about they gears. Salud 🥃
great visuals and vibe on this vid; proper back to the lab style
Appreciate it. Beatmaking is a science.
Well said! Any solid mix engineer worth their weight will ask for individual channels out to process individually. The real good engineers will also ask for the stereo output to get an idea what the producer/beat maker we’re trying to produce. Great video.
100%. Thanks for noting this. MPC heads tend to overlook tracking out because the stereo outs sounds so good and add their own subtle compression, but I'm 8 outs all day.
@@eddieleonard6925 And it’s okay to overlook when they’re in creative mode. While they’re making the beat, most of the focus should be in producing/creating the beat.
Once the beat is done, then they can move on to creative audio manipulation.
Dropping mad knowledge here! Great way to get that sound on the fly...very inspirational! When I got sth to finnish I'll take it over to another lab to mix/master but your way is pure gold👑 salute!
Word. Taking the mix to the studio is ideal, but tracking out at home is fun, too. Peace, and thank you
some really cool ideas and thoughts dig your channel a lot!
Appreciate you checking this out. Glad it resonated. Peace.
You have a great voice and the video has top-shelf aesthetics. Perhaps you have the equipment needed to start getting your boy into the field/industry of Audio Engineering as well which would be cool as in your boy could run the equipment for school theater and what not. One of my strongest memory while growing up was seeing some men on the end of a Pew in a older church operating the different audio gear in a lighted booth that looked like somebody made in woodshop. I always wondered what those different knobs did.
I appreciate the comment. I've always been fascinated by analog equipment and the folks who work behind the scenes to make magic happen. I still am. My son's already obsessed with all types of buttons, knobs, faders and musical instruments. :)
@@eddieleonard6925
What ever you do, don't let the teachers tell your kid to slow down. If he is passionate about something that could certainly land him in the middle class then seek out experts such as a community college professor.
I had this teacher who yelled at other students & I in the mid 1990s for getting the lesson completed in a computer lab. The other kids struggled login into the computer network while I was following the instructions on the whiteboard.
We were using a thinkpad cart.
The teacher should have encouraged the parents to push students to try some computer programing courses with computer languages tailored for small children.
Today we have Khan Academy so if your kid is a brilliant mathematician he or she could push themselves such as algebra in the 4th grade when the other kids struggle with their multiplication table.
Speaking of gear I'm sorta thinking about getting into photography as a new hobby because I'm discovering that there is so much cool gear out there.
For instance I like the sigma FP-l camera for not only having great looking performance, but that form factor looks so versatile.
for instance it looks like a compact to build a slick rig for something like the following.
old.reddit.com/r/space/comments/lzejo5/i_developed_a_unique_method_for_processing_images/
Super good sound and beats are something I gravitate to from some one who obv understands exactly what I’ve been lookin for with noooo
Luck untill now
I’ve always used 8 outs when I had the 4K, but now since I have the X it really doesn’t matter since you can boost up each sound from within. You don’t even have to use them for tracking out, but they still have them
Does that work for you? So you can do all your mixing internally? If so, that's dope...
@@eddieleonard6925 it is dope for sure. But to have an old-school smoking library like you've got so this week and put on the velour jacket and plug it in the right way when there's time is awesome.
You can hear professional, master, recording, artist, and engineers, like Stanley Clarke not all recordings are equal even of the masters. What are my favorite recordings is Stanley Clarke goodbye pork pie hat by Miles Davis. It's an 80s recording people just you can just hear it. They took a lot of time to do it. It's just pristine.
But definitely nice to be able to quickly do something when you need to go to crazy fast pace world
The analog 8-Output is Definitely better. Amazing!!! You treat each track-out like a real instrument using all that gear to color the sound. Thanks for sharing.
A new trick I just learned is actually using all 10 outputs, 8 individual plus stereo outs (which have more compression on them). And yes, this way, each track gets its own treatment in the one-man-band. Cheers,
@@eddieleonard6925 Oh wow! But wait..: what are you doing with the compressed stereo out? Is it part of the 8-track out recording? Or are you recording it as a separate individual compressed song?
@@ONEHENDRIX i turn down all the faders on the "main mix" (stereo mix) and turn up the one i want in the stereo out. pan hard L or R, and it makes 2 more outputs, that you can track at the same time.
@@eddieleonard6925 Oh shit. Right!
you earn yourself a new sub. i'm very intrigued by your channel. I'm stepping in to Analog gear and this is very value for me thank you
I'm glad this was useful. It's fun to experiment with analog, adds a new world of textures to your sound.
10 secs in & i already like this guy
Cheers!
very impressive setup and technique. Learning a lot man! Keep it up.
DOPE SOUNDS and sweet setup . I definitely gotta start using the 8 outs on my MP. Stay up G
Thanks. And yes, stereo outs are cool, but using the 8 outs really opens things up.
E-A Ski brought up the 8 outs a few weeks ago and that led me to researching them.
Just getting started with an mpc one and headphones staying within the box itself and avoiding a daw for now. Can an audio interface take advantage of the 8 outs or should I grab a mixer to start my journey? Thanks for the video and have a nice day.
Congrats on getting an mpc one. With that machine, you can do everything within the box and it'll sound great. Devices now have "usb audio" which allows you to route your sounds into a computer without needing 8 analog outs. It may depend on the audio interface you use. That's a much cleaner, streamlined set up that still gives you control. Grabbing a mixer is just a more tactile way of achieving the same results. Tascam's new line of analog mixers might be a good best-of-both-worlds. Hope this helps. enjoy that mpc one!
Man I love this channel.
I rearranged my setup so my 3k is now the centerpiece because of it.
Ableton and Maschine are now it’s satellites.
But new levels new devils.
My SSL SIX (mk 1) is become not so necessary.
Too many hoops not enough EQ.
If I grab a vintage 4 band 8/16 in mixer it’ll be sauce up in here.
Thank you brother!
I love your scientific approach.
Sounds like you have a proper setup. With those pieces specifically, you can easily change it up if you need to flip the work flow. Get that mixer! It's a game changer. Your 3k will thank you. Peace!
Loved the video. Real chill personality easy to follow.
Appreciate the support! Glad this resonates. Peace.
wow your chilled way of explaining is so nice. and inspiring. i've never utilized multi outs from my live 2 but guess what i'ma do tomorrow. thanks man. peace 🙏
Thank u for checking this out. How many outs does the Live2 have? Lemme know how it goes! It's a slept on option with tons of creative possibilities. Peace.
@@eddieleonard6925 hey the Live2 has 6 outputs (tho the software says 8 but i think that's only valid for "bigger" mpcs? But I got to output my kick seperately through my pro VLA comp which is soo much fun. I share your love for outboard gear btw ;) take care and please put out more stuff like this from time to time :) 🙏🏻
Your voice is soothing like bob ross. I really dig your channel. I'm a old hardware head too. You have great outboard stuff 🙌 I run my SP1200 8 outs
Thanks man. I'm a big fan of your music also. I miss my SP1200. I stupidly sold it back in '02.
Excellent! Yes, I use 8 is on my S950, S5000 and Z4 for greater control over the mix.
This sounds like a serious setup. I love the idea of 16 or even more individual outs summed into a mixer or daw.
You're extremely talented and especially articulate! Good stuff. What kind of mixer is that?
Thanks, and glad this video resonated. I use a vintage Allen and Heath Quasi mixer. And sometimes a boss km6a to dirty up my drums. Cheers,
@@eddieleonard6925 thank you my brother I appreciate you.
Dope 🔥 🎧 video 📹 man. 😎 My dad had a reel to reel back in the day analog tape before cassette.
Thanks! I still use a reel to reel, although it sounds pretty dirty and lofi. They're fun to use, especially as an effect. Cheers,
My XL doesnt have the 8 outs, but I don't know if you tried this but I have been doing everything in Mono. so like sample in L in and send the L out into 1 channel into my mixer. I track out one track at a time, but do the arrange in my DAW so I just grab a few versions of 8 bars per sound, which makes it pretty fast. When I run the sound through the mixer I use stereo outboard gear and change the EQ per the sound. But mainly was curious if you tried just a mono out since it is like using 8 outs but just the L from the stereo mains. It's an interesting way to make the drums slam down the middle and then widen up the synths and other stuff with stereo verbs, delays, compressors. Awesome channel!
Oh that's dope. This is a very creative approach. I recently started using the stereo outs as 2 extra outputs, panning L or R to give me 10 outputs total. Do you find that the stereo outs are better for drums? It's rumored that they have more compression on them, so maybe I should switch my drums to those outputs, rather than outputs 1-2. Thanks for the tip!
@@eddieleonard6925 Good question, I have to use them since it's all I have .haha. I will mess with using both Left an Right outs versus just using the Left/mono like I described and let you know what I discover.
When I first had a 3000 back in the dy, I never really like using the 8 outs cos it felt like it unglued what was coming out the stereo and meant I had to put it all back together to get what i like to call that 'baked in' sound. Mind you, I was going into the DAW via a digital Mackie dest (which I hated). Now I know a lot more and I'm kiciking myself that I don't currently have a 3000. When I do though? Pshh...
the 3000 sounds great, whether you use the stereo outs or the 8 outs. 8 outs is more work, but I really dig the results, plus you can use the stereo outs in addition to the 8..to give you 10 total. Happy producing, fam. No matter what you use, just make it funky.
Dope video and commentary! So far I’ve just used the stereo outs on any of the MPCs I’ve experimented with. I primarily used the Roland/Boss SP series of samplers as effects boxes to add texture to the sound (such as compression or the nice vinyl sim effects). Good points about the 8-outs allowing more flexibility in experimentation and sound design. Gotta try it soon (I don’t have an 8-channel mixer at this point). Nice work
Thanks, bro! The stereo outs have a magic of their own, but imagine this: running outs 1 & 2 into an SP OG, then outputs 3 & 4 into a 303, and outs 5 & 6 into the new SP....then you could rock 3 sets of stereo effects on a single beat. We might have to collab on that...could make some interesting textures.
@@eddieleonard6925 bro I’m down, that’d be crazy to experiment with!!
Did you say you have multiple RS-124s?? How long have you been collecting these?
Also where did you get your Pultec EQP 1A clone?
Yes, if i could afford to, I'd have even more rs124's. They are by far, my favorite compressor. I have an AML Pultec clone. Sounds fantastic and affordable. Can build them yourself or buy them assembled.
Love it, well presented & sweet beats
thanks for checkin it out!
Mix out of the 8 outs into your console, do your thang, then slam it back in the MPC and push it through the stereo outs. Then you get the best of both worlds and all the perks would you not?
Imma try that right now. Solid idea...thank u
Yeah that one of the reasons I installed the 8 mixout board on my 2000xl cause it enhanced sound better than using the stereo out , that’s why "Marco Polo"beats sound so Rich and warmth
So true. It's a slept on feature of all mpcs. The 2000xl was my first mpc, but I didn't have the expansion board...didn't realize what I was missing until I upgraded to the 3000.
It don't enhance your sound, timbaland used to literally say the opposite (to use stereo outs and not 8 outs) and that was just as bullshit. Beat making is about sound selection, period. and I can guarantee you that Marco polo does not sound like Marco polo because he uses 8 outs
absolutely dope video. im wanting pick up a mpc i found for cheap. being told not too. but ive been wanting one for a long time. its a mpc 2000 for 350. or should i just get the new mpcs due to storge? floppys compared to thumb drive. that beat is absolutely dope!!
Thank u! I have an mpc 2000 and even though it's limited compared to the new mpcs....i love the way the drums hit. An mpc 2000 for $350 is a great deal, imo. But you can't go wrong either way. Let me know what you end up choosing...peace!
@@eddieleonard6925 I keep being told to go for the 2000XL and I found one for 450 features and storage. Then I found a MPC ONE for 360. Ugghhh!! Which one should I go for?
@@uriel-heavensguardian8949 You can't lose either way. But I'd go for the 2000xl. I love the classics.
Thanks for sharing, Eddie. We seem to have similar musical beliefs.
"Individual" outs are the way to go regardless of what you're recording into...IMO
Subbed!!!
I appreciate that! It doesn't work for everyone, but for me, I love having the extra control and routing possibilities.
I have a a nice mixer but only 6 inputs And other gear. I have an sp1200. I need some kind of sub mixer maybe
Great idea...I love using submixers. Then you can group sounds, like drums and bass together, for example, since the sp1200 has 8 outs. You've def got options.
@@eddieleonard6925 I just bought a Sennheiser M8. I like your old Allen heath.
I want to saturate transformers. Glue things together a bit. I wish I had 30 thousand right now.
That would be just about right
@@frankjamesbonarrigo7162 How does the m8 sound??? Fully working? Saturating transformers is one of the secrets to "fuller" sound. I do this as much as possible, using any old equipment I can find, usually in serial.
Excellent breakdown
Appreciate it. Thanks for checking the video.
Yo eddie big fan glad i found this channel. What is that main mixer that you use?
peace and thank you! it's an old Allen and Heath Quasi mixer.
@@eddieleonard6925 Thanks man. I been lookim for something that has a little more analog character than the modern makie, berhinger, ect. Stay blessed brother
Just discovered your channel.. Love your equipment and deep knowledge in machines and music in general. Cool!!
just subbed!!
Thanks for checking it out. Appreciate that!
Great video and message! Many thanks!
Thanks. I'm glad you got something from it.
new favorite channel brother
Thanks, I appreciate the support!
I’ve had 2 mpcs both the classic 2000 and the XL. I haven’t sampled a record in one of them coming up on a decade now because they have no out… it has to go thru the s950
Luckily the s950 has 8 outs.
@@eddieleonard6925 absolutely. When I have the money I’ll install 8out in the 2000 and move from 16 to a 32 track mix. Just had to replace floppy drive for the 3rd time on the 950, got a emulator this time
@@Freakthesorceress I've always wanted to upgrade my 950 drive. how do you like it?
Question. There is a resurgence of buying older samplers like the Sp1200 and the mpc3000. If I make my tracks in mpc live 2 and feed them through gear like yours, will I be able to mimic the sound of a vintage sampler or should I just spend the money to get a vintage sampler?
Great question. With plug-ins and good mixing, you can actually make an mpc live sound like a 3000. It just takes more work to do what the mpc3000 and mpc60 do naturally.
This is not the case with the SP1200 or akai s950. No plug-in or mixing can really replicate that sampling engine & conversion. In that case, it would make a big difference if you ran your tracks through them.
I wish I understood why, but samples (drums especially) sound 10x better when running through an s950 or an sp1200. I used to own an sp1200 and all I did was run drum samples through it to achieve that "sound." Hope this helps,
@@eddieleonard6925 thanks dude. I love your music experiments. Keep em coming. :D
Is there a way to use DAW with analog outputs from outboard and use midi to control outboard gear through daw? I’m able to accomplish this with input connections from outboard gear into an interface, but was wondering can it all be done using analog?
Hmm...I'm sure there's a way to maneuver that, but I don't know how.
Dope content! Question bro, are you running the stereo outs of the mixer to the inputs of an interface for tracking in the box??
I always change my setup, but yes..i send those stereo outs back into my interface, where I can save them and make any edits. I hope this answers your question.
@@eddieleonard6925 thanks for the reply👍🏾 just trying to figure whether you had dedicated dac/adc or an all in one interface
@@MrArmoredhustla when i made this video, i was using UA 2192 for ADC. and Arturia 8pre as an interface.
This is a great video. I agree with everything you said. I'm telling you back in the 90s every piece for me had to either be put on layaway or bought from a homie (ASR10, MPC, etc). Very expensive then. Now thanks to the computer and easy financing, a person with no musical interest can create an entire album (my opinion). The sound and sonics is important and I'm glad you mentioned that. Everything that is mainstream to me sounds the same. That is not good in my book 📚
Well said. Anyone can create an entire album, as long as they know what they're doing with the equipment they have. I'm still learning equipment I've owned for years. You're spot on about how everything in the mainstream sounds the same. It might be because everyone's using the same instruments in the same daws, and processing their sounds in the same way, rather than taking the time to develop a more nuanced sound.
@@eddieleonard6925 yes. There is alot of fastfood music 🎶🎶 in and out just to make a $$. There is no thought or creativity. The Daws make you rely on your eyes and not your ears aka SONICS. Sigh I can talk about this for days and will get beat up about it. I'm much older and enjoyed struggling with 5 sec sample time on my Sp12 lol.
Great video, I personally liked the sound of the stereo outs in this test, but you are right, exporting to mixer gives you more control…on the way out.. although, the same can be said if you stem it out and open in DAW and then pan etc.. so end of the day, it’s all about what workflow you feel most comfortable with…you can achieve the same results doing things either way.. just do what you like.. is how I feel..I subbed, nice channel
Totally agree. What I miss most about sending stems to a daw is the ability to easily double tracks, creating more layering and processing options. That takes much more work to achieve in the analog domain.
"Everybody can make any sound or get any sound so nowadays, it's about how you treat that sound" omg ok nohomo but 😍😎😆😆😂 it was the truth and you put it so well I can almost smell the steak cooking! Bravo 👏
It's the truth. A lotta folks seem to forget the essence of this craft. Peace!
Defiantly control. I wish modern samplers like the octatrack had individual track outs, would make mixing much more efficient. if you make a mistake whilst recording in stereo you can’t remove it amongst the other layers in the arrangement. Absolutely agree about flipping and treatment being important too. Excellent content and beat crafting.
Thanks for checking this out. There's nothing wrong with devices that sum internally to stereo outs, but it would be a game changer if they had individuals outs. I've never used an octatrack, but i imagine it must have great internal mixing, and is more portable than a giant MPC.
Agreed man, they both have advantages. The octatrack is pretty cool for internal mixing and the portability is nice considering its multiple uses.
Cheers
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Super Dope Vid just found your channel and I love it! gained a sub for sure. I do have question you are talking about running your individual tracks from your mpc to other analog processing are you running those outputs from the mpc directly to the outboard (Eq, Comp, Etc) then the outputs of the gear back to the board or are you using some sort of insert or send from your board to handle that? Thank you so much! Peace
Thanks for checking the channel. Yes, I run my individual outs directly to the outboard gear, then into my board. This works for me because I always keep the same sorts of sounds/samples/instruments on certain tracks. You do the same?
@@eddieleonard6925 I actually do! The board I use currently (Tascam M520) is 99% RCAs so I was having trouble finding cabling to support the insert points with my outboard so I started just running directly to the outboard through my 8 outs, I use a Patch bay as well so it does make it easy to change things if I need but I've got a main program saved for my 2000xl that has my routing saved that I use most of the time. I'm just glad to see someone else doing that. I came up always using insert points on a board. Only thing I've noticed is for some of my gear I really have to pull back the individual outs so I'm not clipping the gear (unless that's the vibe) Thanks for the reply.
Thank you for the video, it’s a subject that is not that well commented. It’s a real dilema going all analog vs processing into the DAW. Some producers also mox into the mpc amd route the stereo outs into outboard gear with nice results. Put of curiosity, what mixer so you use? Peace
True. Great points. Sometimes I actually prefer the stereo outs with a simple "glue" compressor, but there's so many options when you use all 8 outs. The mixer is an Allen and Heath Quasi mixer, from the '70s. Cheers
Using all 8 outs is ideal. Your beat will sound flat and teeny through the stereo outs
This was very informative! You've earned a sub. Keep it up!
Great video Bruv!!!!!!
I remember back in the day, as soon as we got reliable stereo, noone touched analog anymore. Isnt it funny how we now chase that stuff, but back in those actual times it was the opposite
Very true. Makes me wonder what we're overlooking today, that we'll be nostalgic for in 20 or 30 years.
Badass right out of the gate.
Appreciate that! Thanks for checking in..
So this is what I was trying to develop a scientific test for. By the time your digitally saved sample goes through your chain of analog i/o and goes all the way around the choo-choo track to the speaker and of course, the thing that really matters finally to your ear... Do you think it has introduced enough chaos like the Fibonacci sequence to wear that digital sample has now become a completely organic analog, sound? But you're running it as a master stereo outs. Perhaps this would have to be done before hand in someway is kind of where I am experimenting right now. I'm going to say probably, maybe or mostly perhaps yes. I have never seen a video like this that's you're doing what I want to do but I've got some other angles and you do too.
Let me know how the experiment goes! I need to try this again...what I didn't realize was how much the overall experience factored into the end result. Sonically, I think that with a little bit more work, you can get digital to sound the same as vinyl, but I still need to try a stricter test. Peace!
@@eddieleonard6925 there is definitely something to be felt in an a ritual/tradition.
Digital is better for laser cut surgery and speed many times it's also predictable with zero noise floor
But rarely do i want skittles when its meat time for steak. Just wont do. There's no straight lines in nature, bit depth, is it to our ears pixels are to tvs.
I think this is precisely what makes the NPC so cool because you get the benefit of digital but yet it's really 80% a piece of analog gear and it's pushing that digital sample through analog hardware. I don't know how exactly does it it's more than just an amp. I was just arguing with a Grammy winning Brazil jazz engineer about this and I know I'm right he's wrong. 😂
i am going to check out your music ! the beat was very dope
I don't have a lot of releases, but thank you. I plan to drop something new later this year. Cheers,
Individual outs are fantastico.