Does Acts 15 describe a Governing Body?

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  • (Rebuttals Sushi no. 328 - Reviewing the 151st Gilead Graduation - Part 3) While lecturing Gilead graduates on the need for humility Governing Body member David Splane cites Acts 15 as a scriptural precedent for a centralized Governing Body even though the verse itself describes no such thing.
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  • @cabrahamrv11
    @cabrahamrv11 2 года назад +19

    Governing body are in competition to see who is the biggest clown 🤡

    • @zuby985
      @zuby985 2 года назад +8

      And the winner is……….wow! We have an 8-way tie!

    • @cabrahamrv11
      @cabrahamrv11 2 года назад +2

      @@zuby985 lol ... i don't know i think my money is still on Stephen Lett with Morris and Splane fighting for the second place... lol

  • @gisella1350
    @gisella1350 2 года назад +8

    Please tell me , are the GB circumcised? Or do they pick and choose... what suites them. Happy to give then a quick snip.

  • @pamelaruth7400
    @pamelaruth7400 2 года назад +9

    Excellent! Tony Morris said "...sounds like a governing body to me..." during that one talk as if he had been arguing with someone about it😂 so many of Lett, Splane, and Morris, and the others rants i mean talks are so obviously attempting to discredit what the apostates are saying😂

  • @cherylseebreth328
    @cherylseebreth328 2 года назад +7

    How is cutting off what your creator, Jehovah, gave you important? Splane, are you snipped?

  • @TheNerdyBrew
    @TheNerdyBrew 2 года назад +2

    Lloyd I love your Bible study. I know you don't believe but hearing truth from the scriptures are very much refreshing.

  • @b.w.7588
    @b.w.7588 2 года назад +3

    Even if there was a Governing Body comprised of the twelve Apostles and older men in Jerusalem in the 1st century CE, that still doesn't mean that the theological claims of Christianity are true.

  • @aidellamas5542
    @aidellamas5542 2 года назад +7

    Is near one speech with the message that the governing body is the very god...

  • @formerjw3874
    @formerjw3874 2 года назад +4

    So which is it : The Bible is God’s word and all someone needs to unlock the mystery of a good relationship with the Almighty, or : The leaders in the organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses are appointed by God to interpret the Bible and apply and enforce compliance with their conclusions, even if they get it wrong.
    To be a Jehovah’s Witness you really have to say ‘both’.
    That’s a problem for so many on lots of levels.

  • @neverperching1554
    @neverperching1554 2 года назад +3

    "Don't be critical of the circuit overseer"
    Why not?

    • @firstname8348
      @firstname8348 2 года назад +2

      Right, I thought we weren't supposed to follow men.

  • @lawelldecker1967
    @lawelldecker1967 2 года назад +1

    BY THE WAY THE APOSTLES WERE REFERRED TO AS THE JERUSALEM COUNCIL

  • @jasonirving1610
    @jasonirving1610 2 года назад +2

    Splane sort of creeps me out, there is something wrong with his body language and micro expressions, really cold. I think some of them really are true believers, but I feel like there is something off about him.

  • @asherasky8147
    @asherasky8147 2 года назад +2

    His name was Jacob not James Mr.Splainer

  • @asherasky8147
    @asherasky8147 2 года назад +5

    So we should be upset with the governing body for purposefully ruining the sensitivity of mens personal appendage

    • @kir0nz
      @kir0nz 2 года назад +1

      Yes, lets not forget that the actual issue here in Acts 15. The genital mutilation of men and boys as prescribed by a collection of "not really leaders". Not by any goD, but other people.

    • @donniebgood1486
      @donniebgood1486 2 года назад

      I’m personally glad I have a nice looking German army helmet instead of an earthworm

    • @kir0nz
      @kir0nz 2 года назад

      @@donniebgood1486 Yes you and many others are happy. However it is still genital mutilation when performed on a boy/man who has no choice.

    • @jeffmacdonald9863
      @jeffmacdonald9863 2 года назад +1

      @@kir0nz But the collection of "not really leaders" didn't prescribe circumcision. That was the whole point.

    • @kir0nz
      @kir0nz 2 года назад

      @@jeffmacdonald9863 The decision was never theirs to make.

  • @EfrainRiveraJunior
    @EfrainRiveraJunior 2 года назад

    If there was a person who I felt zero respect for, it was every single Circuit Overseer I met.

  • @shawnandrews8406
    @shawnandrews8406 2 года назад

    Excellent job Lloyd. I don't know why they kept forcing this topic that has nothing in connection with Scriptures. None whatsoever.

  • @yolandahernandez9154
    @yolandahernandez9154 2 года назад +1

    There were men that were Keeping the law, of Moses ,
    But there’s a new covenant with Jesus,
    That’s why in book of Acts Peter rose and said : Acts 15: 10.
    Now therefore, why are you making a test of God by imposing upon the neck of
    The disciples a yoke that neither our forefathers nor we were able of
    Bearing.”
    Verse 5. Said observe the law of Moses,”
    There was absolutely “No governing body,”
    It’s the apostles, there’s proof in verse
    7.
    Now when Peter rose and said to them:
    Men, brothers, you well know that from early days “God made the Choice among you that through “My mouth, people of nations should Hear the word of the good news and
    Believe.”
    Verse 8.
    And God,” who knows the heart, bore. Witness by giving them the holy spirit,”
    Just as he did to us also.
    “Us” is the Bible writers the Apostles,
    The governing. Body are not the Bible writers,!
    In fact this 8 men have gone
    Way beyond what is written about the good news.

    • @yolandahernandez9154
      @yolandahernandez9154 2 года назад

      Verse 8. Giving them, it’s the prophets, us is the apostles,
      Read carful each word, I reread it till it’s more clear,
      Some people get the truth much faster then I.”

  • @xjwfurious
    @xjwfurious 2 года назад +6

    This guy is a joke. The whole GB is a joke.

  • @arthurwweber
    @arthurwweber 2 года назад

    James was one of the elders in the Jerusalem congregation.

  • @jamesscherbenske612
    @jamesscherbenske612 2 года назад +14

    This religion ruined my life

    • @manases79
      @manases79 2 года назад +10

      It didn't ruin my life, but it sure did ruin a family of 7 siblings. I have no brothers anymore but I have peace of mind and a life free of false doctrines

  • @b.w.7588
    @b.w.7588 2 года назад +1

    I don't think that "THE BOOK OF ACTS" is historically reliable, but I doubt there was universal agreement over doctrine or ritual within the early Christian communities.

  • @gisella1350
    @gisella1350 2 года назад

    Dogs hanging around. "Yum"

  • @isaiah30v8
    @isaiah30v8 2 года назад

    Isaiah Chapter 28 describes The Governing Body:
    .
    Isaiah 28:14-15
    Therefore hear the word of Jehovah, YOU braggarts, YOU RULERS OF THIS PEOPLE who are in Jerusalem: 15 Because YOU men have said: “We have concluded a covenant with Death; and with She´ol we have effected a vision;
    .
    "We have concluded a covenant with Death"
    .
    Millions Now Living Will Never Die
    .
    .
    2 Corinthians 11:3
    But I am afraid that somehow, as the serpent seduced Eve by its cunning, YOUR minds might be corrupted away from the sincerity and the chastity that are due the Christ
    .
    You positively will not die.
    .
    2 Thessalonians 2:11
    So that is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing THE LIE.
    .
    .
    The operation of Satan!
    .
    .

  • @yolandahernandez9154
    @yolandahernandez9154 2 года назад

    David splane is incorrect,
    James, and Paul are apostles.
    They were part of the Bible writers.
    Zechariah 7 : 7.
    Should you not obey the words that Jehovah, Yahweh,
    Called out by means of the Former prophets,
    12.
    And their heart they set as an emery stone to keep from obeying the
    Law and the words that Jehovah, Yahweh,
    Of armies sent by his spirit,
    By means of the “Former”
    Prophets:
    1 Corinthians 14: 32-33.
    And gifts of the spirit of the prophets are to be controlled by the
    Prophets.”
    33.
    For God is a God, not of disorder, but of peace.”
    Hosea 8 : 4.
    They themselves have set up kings, but not be because of me.
    They have set up princess,
    But I did not know it.
    With their silver And their Gold they have made for
    Themselves idols.
    How does the. Governing body. Set up. Idols ,?
    Read
    1 Samuel 15 : 23.

    • @freeatlast.
      @freeatlast. 2 года назад

      What is wrong with you????

    • @yolandahernandez9154
      @yolandahernandez9154 Год назад

      @@freeatlast.
      I can’t fallow man. Because in
      Nehemiah 10 : 29.
      They we’re adhering to their brothers the majestic ones,
      Coming to a curse .
      You can understand I don’t want to come to
      A “Curse “
      Only one we are to fallow is Christ
      Until we all attain to the oneness in the faith, and in the accurate knowledge
      Of the Son of God,”
      To a full grown man.
      To the measure of stature what belongs to the fullness
      Of the. Christ.”
      So I can’t fallow the watchtower.” Of eight men.”

    • @yolandahernandez9154
      @yolandahernandez9154 Год назад

      Hope I Answered your question,
      I reread my post to see if maybe I said something wrong,!

    • @freeatlast.
      @freeatlast. Год назад

      @@yolandahernandez9154 Was not the book of Nehemiah or it's writer some person too?

    • @yolandahernandez9154
      @yolandahernandez9154 Год назад

      @@freeatlast.es, Nehemiah is a man, but Nehemiah was writing, by holy spirit.!
      And the governing body are false prophets. Because God has not spoken, or gave them a dream, of any kind.
      That’s why the eight men have been in many errors. Because this men have not fallowed the Bible.
      No one knows when the end is coming.!
      Deuteronomy 18 : 20-21.
      Jeremiah 14 : 14.
      And Jehovah went on to say to me: Falsehood is what the prophets are prophesying, In my “ Name “
      I have not sent them, nor have I commanded them, or
      Spoken to them.!
      A false vision and divination , and valueless thing , and trickiness of their heart
      They are speaking prophetically To You people.
      Read next verse.
      Sorry I answered so late.
      I have not gone to check where I leave my comments. And I’am getting forgetful,
      I’am 75
      .

  • @itzjustzay
    @itzjustzay 2 года назад

    Fifth….😬

  • @jamesscherbenske612
    @jamesscherbenske612 2 года назад +1

    First 🥇

  • @fabibibine
    @fabibibine 2 года назад

    Telling people how to think and what to say, what to do.. 🤮

  • @DeeDee-lz8zx
    @DeeDee-lz8zx 2 года назад

    So what religion does everyone here think is the way, the truth and the light? And how can I be sure which religion is true?

    • @teddydennis6989
      @teddydennis6989 2 года назад +9

      None, there is no such thing as true religion. All religions are man made. Jesus is the way, the truth and the light.

    • @user-vo4wc2jz8g
      @user-vo4wc2jz8g 2 года назад +5

      No need. It's all a human construct to explain the unexplainable. Religion as we know it has just evolved from earlier religions such as sun and moon worship.

    • @paulreed4231
      @paulreed4231 2 года назад

      Beroean Picket channel on here might be a good start. He left after being raised a Witness and serving as an elder for many years. There is a Sunday meeting on his website also. Just saying in case your disillusioned with the witnesses but want to hang onto your faith in Jehovah.

    • @pointbreak8646
      @pointbreak8646 2 года назад +1

      @@user-vo4wc2jz8g it certainly looks like a human construct, I totally agree with you. It appears that to a few billion people on this planet it isn't. As long as people are scared of death, ceasing to exist and indoctrination I'm afraid it isn't going away anytime soon. People can believe whatever nonsense they want its when its forced on other people I feel is wrong and when people say they have God on their side. I think proving that God exists first is needed before one starts to say God is on their side.

    • @ron4498
      @ron4498 2 года назад +1

      NONE!!!!!!!!!!!! all man made up to try and control others. IMO run by demons BTW!!