Communism vs. Socialism: What's The Difference?
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2017
- There's a lot of confusion surrounding the terms Communism and Socialism. The two are often used interchangeably, even by entire governments and political leaders, but they are not the same at all! So what’s the difference? Find out in this quick explainer.
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Safar Cinema those are not only internet arguments mate
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sometimes quotes can make jokes and give good analogies
but yes sometimes people do it too much
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“No” - Abraham Lincoln
"I wished to live in the same era as Cardi B"
- Karl Marx
Karl Marx NOOOOO
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“you either die a hero or you die of hunger”
- stalin
Lmao this is when you get sent to the gulag
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"Things written in quotes look more serious" -Abraham Lincon
“If you treat her like a celebrity, she’ll treat you like a fan”
-Gandhi
"lol"
-Chandan
"I'm not sure."
- my friend's brother
“Everything sounds much more serious if it’s in quotations”
-Abraham Lincoln
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King Henry Wow Abraham Lincoln was so ahead of his time.
'' i never said that'' abraham lincoln
"Best comment"-
Abraham Lincoln
"questioning my entire existence" - Abraham Link-on
I love the idea, but the sad reality is that no government can be trusted to distribute money equally among all people.
Because capitalism is an obsolete system that is making our worlds equlity worse
But Communism in its true form actually abolishes government.
No Class
No Money
No Government
Well... BUT people cannot be trusted "to contribute what they can and take only what they need". Until people stop being people, Socialism and Communism will never happen. When the children grow up, they will see this more clearly.
It doesn’t even matter if things are distributed equally….can you imagine every time someone took a test at school and the class was graded on a curve where everyone got the same score? What’s the point in trying?
@@FIyingDumpling BINGO! That's a great analogy! You hit the nail on the head in ONE SENTENCE! Bravo!
“You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take”
-Wayne Gretzky
-Michael Scott
In a free society, there will be inequality. In a truly equal society, nobody will be free.
Edit: I cant believe people are arguing over a comment I made when I was 15 lmao
i don't understand how you can be dumb enough to contradict yourself...
Brenton Volkert Can you even read? He did not contradict himself. Here let me put it in simpler terms for you: "In a free society people are unequal, in an equal society people aren't free."
I can't understand how you could be dumb enough not to grasp this statement and the fact that it does not contradict itself.
In other words, there is no freedom if everyone is equal because in order to make everyone equal, freedom must be taken away. Under socialist dictatorships, everyone is equally miserable.
Brenton Volkert I don't see how stupid you could be to write this comment
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- Abraham Lincoln -
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Life in plastic, it's fantastic.
When the joke is funny but the delivery is stupid
I want to like this but it's already at the perfect number..
I love how people use the term "equal" to represent forced total equality, then use it to describe Communism, when the most famous Communism quote is "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs", a sentence that literally says "no it's not equal"
Besides massive government corruption at all levels the USSR had difficulty with production. To each according to his ability resulted in a less productive society. Always the end result of Socialism.
@@adventuresnorthwest3643 The problems of the USSR had to do with its competition with the United States. Their influence globally was drastically smaller than that of the US and was not founded on exploitation, so they simply couldn't compete. But they weren't left much choice as the US saw the success of the anti-bourgeoisie principle as an existential threat to its own credibility, hence needed to make the USSR fail by any means necessary.
Ignoring the embargo's, propaganda and other aggressive anti-communist campaigns of the US, the USSR had to juggle its resources in both military and public welfare, all while rebuilding its economy from the globally unprecedented devastation WW2 had caused due to being the main theater of war unlike the rather uninvolved US. To do this most of its income had to come from the state capitalism, which created a dependency on the very system and corruption it paradoxically sought to abolish. It was the confounding public discontent after Afghanistan sunk it into an economic depression that the USSR collapsed.
So ironically(not really), the downfall of the USSR had to do with its capitalist remnants that the US ensured to stay in place. It was not socialism, but the lack thereof that condemned it to economic collapse. In fact in every area were the USSR was socialized, which is to say public facilities(transport, healthcare, education), housing and essential needs, it was far superior to the United States.
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"he a runner he a trackstar"
-lenin, probably
“Dark humor is like food, not everyone gets it.”
Stalin
Lol
You mom is like Soviet union , every man gets his share
@@drunkenmmamaster419 Plot twist they ran out of food in *two days*
Now ,lets learn history.
@@drunkenmmamaster419 mom is a complex social concept that can be even harder to understand than the concept of god People don't get the concepts, too stupid for that.
"W.A.P"
-- Karl "B" Marx
WAP CARDI B FT MEGAN THE STALLION
Marxi B
We Are the Proletarians
@@bagel3707 yes! 😂
Karl Baddie Marx
Congrats,you found a comment which is not a quote.
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-a thief
Someone once said that "If voting made a difference, they wouldn't let us do it. "
Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods. H. L. Mencken
All truth. Presidents are already decided
Yes of course it doesn't. All systems are just hoax to fool society. World is controlled by a handful of people's decisions irrespective of region or country
So we should just get rid of the voting process?
@L Denke So what's your solution then?
"I said certified freak, seven days a week..."
- Joseph Stalin
@Looter Shooter lemon flag?
@@sooryan_1018 yes ofc because lemons are the modern day epitome of evil lmfao
Uncle joe was a savage
@@personifiedtoast4869 every villain is lemons
I can't. I am laughing so hard and my grandma doesn't understand. 🤣🤣
Stalinism as an ideology doesn't properly exist; in fact Stalin himself was not a "Stalinist," but a Marxist-Leninist. Stalinism simply refers to the policies enacted by Stalin, but he wasn't following his own separate ideology when forming or enacting those policies, he was simply following Marxist-Leninist thought
Socialism in one country was his ideology
Debatable, Stalin's specific plans for modernising the USSR could be called Stalinism, although it's very silly for anyone who isn't living in 20th century Russia to claim to be a 'Stalinist'
Can you please point out where Marx prescribed dictatorship? If you can't, then you can't call Stalin a "marxist" - spoileralert: You can't.
Two giant propaganda-machines have upheld the notion that the USSR was a communistic endeavour: The sovjets - in order to gain legitimacy within, and the US - to scare the world. Neither of them were right.
Anyone who spends one day in government knows you don't want centralized government controlling the means of production.
"Socialism is when the government does stuff." - Marl Carx
also when no iphone
@@shush__plz5172 what you mean?
What? 🤣
i hate this quote, because its only if the government does it for the well-being of the Working Class
@@hopseshopsidis its a joke
“The goal of socialism is communism” Vladimir Lenin
Kim Jung Un 😂😂😂😂😂
It changed very long ago. I leaded a party which was against communism and called himself a Socialist, in 1969 similar to Bernie Sanders!
Kim Jung Un Vladimir Putin is not a socialism tirade or believe in communism he went to the American system of democracy what does that tell you you moron
Kim Jung Un give nobody private ownership of property or businesses which leaves THE GOVERNMENT TO COME AND THAT YO $HIT! NO THANKS! NOTICE HOW THEY DON'T EXPLAIN A TAX SYSTEM OR NOTHING?
IT'S A PURE SCAM! THE SOCIALISM GIVES MORE POWER TO THE GOVERNMENT. THE COMMUNISM TAKES POWER AWAY FROM THE POWERFUL BILLION DOLLAR COMPANIES IN CORPORATIONS.
THEN THE GOVERNMENT SWOOPS IN AND TAKES IT. CORPORATIONS AND RICH COMPANIES ARE BAD BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO BE RULED BY A GOVERNMENT THEY ARE HORRIBLE.
THESE CORPORATIONS DON'T OWN YOU, WHEN GOVERNMENTS TAKE OVER THEY OWN YOU.
IN AMERICA IT'S PRETTY BAD FOR THE POOR AND LOWER CLASSES, BUT THE GOVERNMENT CAN'T JUST COME AND TAKE EVERYTHING YOU WANT UNLESS YOU BORROWED MONEY AND DIDN'T PAY BACK.
A CAPITALIST DEMOCRACY + SOCIALISM, AND A PROPERLY FUNCTIONING REPUBLIC, WITH NO CORRUPTION IS THE ULTIMATE SYSTEM.
true democracy is anarchy.. the US founders knew democracy is just as bad as communism.. that's why we have a democratic republic
"I could've dropped my croissant 🥐"
- Jean-Jacques Rousseau
"that's why I love beer 🍺"
- Friedrich Nietzsche
This is the most complete and efficient video I have watched so far to distinguish/define socialism and communism
"I ain't never seen two pretty best friends at least one of them gotta be ugly"
- Donald Trump
“You can’t go into a 711 without hearing a guy with an Indian accent” -Biden
You tell me which is worse
"Two men say they're Jesus,
one of them MUST be wrong"......
Industrial Disease
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@@Tom-js3iz Trumps isn't sexist, he could be talking about males or females or a combination.
@@Tom-js3iz it’s a joke that’s going around, chill lol
I mean he aint wrong. Some girls intentionally hang around ugly girls to make themselves look better
What Do You Call A Communist Sniper?
A Marx-Man
Get out.
Yo so corny.
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I appreciate this
Go to gulag western spy
"cash me outside how bout dat"
- Sigmund Freud to his dad
Marxism sounds really attractive and good at first, until you dive deeper
Ok GBN follower..
Says the man who has never read theory
No, I don’t think it does
The deeper you dive, the better it gets. There has been a lot of misinformation fed to the public over the years. Learning about American foreign policy and our history with the rest of the world was also an important stepping stone in my path all the way to the left.
"The goal of all Socialism is Communism."
~Vladimir Lenin
Not a real quote
BeeTee Inc no it is real. I said it myself
@@lukeskywalker1557 Ah really? Whats the source?
BeeTee Inc marxism
Well technically WE said it so the quote is OURS (including Lenin)
"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken"
- colonel sanders
Mm I want chicken
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Tell me why SOBER me read this as "I'm too chicken to taste this drunk"
Colonel Sanders - Bernie's predecessor.
The problem with Socialism and Communism is in their core ideas. Main and most important rule of both ideas is "Dictatorship of proletariat" which means no other ideas, political parties are allowed in state where Socialism and Communism rule.
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
“Dictatorship of the proletariat” because dictatorship under the bourgeois is beyond awful, i’ve seen this argument before, i think its important to point out every political part that isn’t a people’s party serves to establish or maintain capitalism so its important for the dictatorship of the proletariat to have one representative party
All of the answer,you've got a very correct and brilliant answer!you are correct,dictatorship of proletariat,not only proletariat''it's also communism and socialism,is a single communist party system DICTATORSHIP...
@@lcdream4213Dictatorship actually recreates a set of social hierarchies which Marxism originally aimed at destroying. You can't want a classless society but wanting a class of it to rule everything.
An actively adjusted balance between capitalizing and socializing is what is necessary, and this balance is only achievable through democracy.
Nah it sucks
“Who let the dogs out?”
-Karl Marx
Who?who?who?who?who?
Lol!
no worries, the chinese knows what to do
wait ? Kangurou ?
The Bourgeoisie.
“We are living in a material world; and I’m a material girl” -Santa
I’m a Barbie girl, in a Barbie world.
-Santa’s helper
everything control Big Brother in Israel and USA
@NowThis What happened to you old videos on socialism and communism. Only your capitalism videos and this video still exist on RUclips. I used to use them in my classroom... where did they go? Why did they get taken down?
These versions are the 57 varieties of confusion and distortion, socialism/communism has Not failed it's yet to be established.
How can someone dislike this video? He is just examining these concepts. How can you hate calling a rock, a rock?
Maybe it’s the naïveté. Maybe it’s the childish music in the background. Communism will never exist just like the Easter Bunny will never exist. Despots will always rise.
People are scared of both of these words.
chinese did
The Left who gets 'offended' by these facts and wish they can have their socialists utopia.
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“I’m not a Marxist.”
-Karl Marx
Brandon he said that because he didn't agree with the Frankfurt school of thought that espoused cultural marxism and personally called himself a scientific socialist, not a marxist. You my friend are deliberately miss quoting him to further your agenda.
+A Revolutionary Fox Forgive me, I did not mean to imply that. I just think it’s funny that he said that at all.
Brandon oh sorry, nah it's fine. I thought you were a right wing shill trying to straw man marxism.
A Revolutionary Fox : As a communist I also think we should abandon the terms "marxist" or "marxian". To me, Marx was as useful to the communist movement as Gracchus Babeuf or Peter Kropotkin... And it makes us look like a sect^^
A Revolutionary Fox lmao the Frankfurt school didn't even exist in Marx's time. In 1880 Marx was assisting French socialists in writing the program for the Worker's party of France. Marx did help the party in writing the program but had some serious disagreements with them. Marx had issues with demanding better work conditions and wages from the bourgeoisie. This is where the quote comes into proper context. Marx wanted to destroy the idea that if demanding such reforms from the capitalists is believed to be mainstream Marxism, then he is not a Marxist.
"Cultural Marxism" academically speaking, is defined by 3 groups of neo-marxist theorists (labelled The Frankfurt School's 'Cultural Marxism', The Birmingham School's 'British Cultural Marxism', and E.P. Thompson's 'Thompsonian Cultural Marxism') - all of whom critiqued aspects of "mass culture". The Frankfurt School started it all by describing The Culture Industry. Adorno writes things like this in his critique of The Culture Industry: "The dependence of the most powerful broadcasting company on the electrical industry, or of the motion picture industry on the banks, is characteristic of the whole sphere, whose individual branches are themselves economically interwoven." They were the first thinkers to realize there was a 'corporate media' which pushed it's own corporate values and agenda. Adorno says things like: "The Culture Industry not so much adapts to the reactions of its customers as it counterfeits them." The Frankfurt School didn't like pop-culture at all, the Culture Industry Wikipedia page says "Adorno and Horkheimer especially perceived mass-produced culture as dangerous to the more technically and intellectually difficult high arts" - so they believed pop-culture was a risk to Western Civilization. The Birmingham School came after The Frankfurt School and quite liked British Working Class culture. The founders of The Birmingham School were WW2 vets, and their complaints focused on the 'cultural drift' away from the strong, local, community based cultures which they loved, and towards a more bland globalized culture (a process they called "massification"). Other theorists such as Max Horkheimer (of The Frankfurt School) rallied against the application of science without morality. He called this "instrumental reason" and took the Kantian moral position that reason without morality could cause nightmares (such as the application of science during the Holocaust). The Frankfurt School were big against the Holocaust, and contributed to the Nuremberg Trial - which later led to the creation of modern medical ethics boards. This has all somehow been misconstrued as their attack on Western Civilization - even though The Frankfurt School were specifically trying to protect the arts from pop-culture. Later Frankfurt School theorists such as Jurgen Habermas, and Nancy Fraser have specifically critiqued things like Post-Modern relativism and even Identity Politics. The term "Cultural Marxism" has since become a right wing misrepresentation of the (left wing) Frankfurt School. It's now tied into the theory they were "International Jewish Communists" trying to "Destroy American Academia and Hollywood". You can judge whether that's true for yourself.
Hey does anyone know what has happened to one of this video about Anarchy? Can't find it anywhere.
Anarchy doesn't work
@@Moodboard39 not the answer I'm looking for.
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@@synchronicity1470 what's so funny?
You missed the two colonies established in the early 1600s in the North American continent. Not to mention the tribal societies in the western hemisphere, where pretty much everyone owned the "means of production". All tribes are by definition "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need."
Kindergarden teacher: sharing is caring
The russian kid:
Happiness.
The Russian kid: sharing is scaring
@Gunma4412 *Latvian
Just as I finished reading this, the anthem started playing in my head.
“Exactly”
-Russian kid
"Socialism is when the government does stuff. And the more stuff it does, the more socialist it is. And if it does a real lot of stuff, it's communism."
-Vladimir Lenin or something
I"m so weak! LOL
So a non-socialist country wouldn't have a government then?
@@istvanglock7445 whooosh
no government in communism, bad joke
@@kirill3032 it's a quote from richard wolff quote. He was making a parody of right wing arguments. The joke isn't bad you just don't get it.
What is the music played on the background?
*"There is always some thing to envy. a smile, the friendship, something you don't have to appropriate. There will always be rich and poor."* - Enemy at the Gates Like narcissism, communism is a by product of envy
saying that wanting equality is being envious is extremely shallow. Capitalism wants to sell the idea that anybody can be crazy rich if they work hard enough, but these are all fairy tales. To climb the social ladder is nearly impossible for many and most of the time is based on luck. of course elon musk had it easier, his father was rich ti begin with, so his son could study and invest on the empire he has today. but what if he was born in a poor village of Ethiopia? we would have never heard of him. or what if he worked in a sweatshop? do you think that "with enough hard work" he would be where he is today? Plus it is very simplistic to think that poor people are poor because they put themselves in that situation, that is just not true. "work harder and maybe you will have it better" do you think that those kids digging for gold and silicon 14h a day for maybe 2 dollars a day is not working hard? and the ceo who is making them work is probably working harder, right? I am not a communist, but statements like yours fuel me with anger, ignorance is rampant
**enters comment section**
**Grabs bucket of popcorn**
i agree, these comment wars are gold.
You gonna share the popcorn?
@@trevorvallo5841 no I'm not some filthy commie. I might for the right price...
Ain't it fun?
Yep
Me: brings a pack of chips
Classmates: *Plays USSR anthem*
Well, sharing is caring as I always say...
Hahahhaha
Ussr athem equal funny hahah😐😐😐
And you will also get supplies from your classmates too...
So students in the classroom shares what they have with other classmates and so the whole classroom will never be short of anything and live equally, satisfactorily. That's the power of cummunism/socialism.
You want poor students to watch rich students eating potato chips??? Then, it's called Bloody capitalism.
@@mythoclast142 ik, totally not an overused meme format
"Hey I love your car, what do you do for a living"
- George Washington
I have a question, in your video you described that something like universal health care is a socialist idea but is health care even a means of production (like what does health care have to do with public ownership of means of production)? Isn't universal health care more keynesian econonic instead of socialist economic (bcs health care is a goverentment spending not a means of production)?
“I don’t cook, I don’t clean”
- Karl Marx
I don’t get this
Vladimir putin:
he didnt work either
He was a parasite which mutated into a virus called Communism Varients being Bolshevik Party, CCP, CPMI etc...
you forgot the part where he say he don't work
@@souravchakraborty8861 you know what they say , every political side has it own origin , and the origin of communism is a trash can
When the host looks like Tsar Nicolas II .....
loloololol you're right he does kinda look like him lmao
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Tsarism > Socialism > Communism
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bruh you're right
Communism is the higher stage of Socialism which means a non-capitalist society. A capitalist market-economy with social welfare programmes, social security etc. is called Social-Democracy or Social-Liberalism.
the problem is in our current time there are alot of people who do not want to work towards their goals and hear things like "everyone is equal" in communism/socialism and think that will solve their problems
"Socialism is when the government does stuff, communism is when government does more and more stuff" - Karl Marx
@renhyuckwrld They are both bad, "The goal of socialism is communism" - Lenin
@@philipvaray6520 how are they both bad?
@@mochees if they're not bad then name one country which developed well after communists started ruling it.
@@philipvaray6520 lol lenin is a single theorist and plenty of marxists disagree with lenin.
@@antrikshdixit8568 also, you do realize that's a terrible argument given how relatively few socialist/communist countries there's been right? socialism has only been around for about a century.
all the major socialist (no country has actually been communist) countries have also only been one ideology - Marxism-Leninism (or Marxism-Leninism-Maoism)
"Which countries have been labeled communist? And how do they actually live up to their reputations? Find out in this video to the right."
*War in Afghanistan: 17 years later | NowThisWorld*
In all fairness, before the Taliban kerfuffle, Afghanistan was a "communist" country at one point.
For me too
@@VV_PaVria They were not true communism though. No communist country has correctly applied the Utopian and impossible goal of communism.
Lol I'm literally reading the comments trying to solve this puzzle haha
VieViaPaVria
They weren’t communist. It was never established. The people rebelled and won.
“ everybody does what they can to contribute and take what they need”, how does innovation occur then? To me it sounds like do what u can means work that is productive for the whole collective, does that mean any form of leisure and entertainment would be removed because it would not contribute productivity? Like people will work the whole time because they’ll be 2 bored otherwise
Ho Chi Ming actually passed away before Vietnam was able to gain full independence
“Only take what they need”. You ever met a human before? It’s not happening.
That's the problem with Marxism, it does not consider any selfishness in the "working class".
Also "work as much and contribute as much as they can".
He isn't advocating for or against either one of these he is just describing the definition of both
P B that’s why communism specifically takes away currency to further incentives through necessity, passion, ambition, etc.
@@dontrybaconnaked yeah. Maybe he never met a lazy person before who doesnt want to work and only wants to eat and sleep.
“A State divided into a small number of rich and a large number of poor will always develop a government manipulated by the rich to protect the amenities represented by their property.” - Harold Laski
There is a Natural law, popularly known as the 80/20 principle. It's a natural law because till now it has always manifested itself in all fields of Reality. And one of the fields is Economics. The minority of the population will always hold the Majority of wealth and the Majority will always own the minority of wealth. Carl Marx observed this in all Capitalistic economies and created a system he thought would avoid this major flaw. And Marxism did just that. No longer did the 20%(or less) own 80% of wealth. Now, only 1% owned almost everything.
In short, a state will always be divided into a small number of rich and a large number of poor. Why? It's a natural law. How? I don't know.
@@rajatsinghbhandari9549 How? The possible answer is that the human intelligence varies and the range of this variation is quite large.
Also there are different types of intelligence. Not all of them are equally effective to pruduce goods and services. For example a man with higher interpersonal intelligence is good at understanding and interacting with people. So he has a better potential to create an industry than a man with higher philosopical intelligence.
Now it will be very stupid and unjust to forcefully bring them at a similar economic class. The person who can produce more for the society will earn more that's the right thing to do.
And many brilliant person will remain poor just because their intelligence is not able to generate that much for others.
And wealth is nothing but cumulative income of multiple generations. Wealth didn’t come from sky.
One valid arguement is that why people should inherit the total property of their parents. Its true that incompetent people get lucky this way without having any real ability. This is the thing i don’t understand. Should a person have wealth which he could not earn otherwise?
@@Gangakinartheke Yeah, I agree that inequalities are natural and equality is impossible and that explains why the 80/20 rule applies to Humans. But that doesn't explain why it works elsewhere, like space or nature.
And why inheritance?
Because most parents love their children and want them to live an easy life and money helps with that.
Communism works that way
@i get it what decision? And the tyranny starts when government takes the wealth of your ancestors from you and give it to the people who never earned it at the first place. I will never work hard in a socialist country so that the gov can take my money from my children and others get benefited with it.
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- Jordan Terrell Carter
The way I was taught, Marx's writings were theory, he knew the inherit actions of man would never let it come to reality. Summed up by ,"power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely". Short version.
“Will the real slim shady please stand up”
-Karl Marx-
"I am somewhat an expert in economics and have a very strong opinion"
-this comment section
Agree.
what moron is an expert in economics and thinks communism is a good idea
@@joebidenisapedophile moron identified^^ oh, the irony
Milith Dheerasekara um no i dont think communism is a good idea
@@milithdheerasekara6957 he's literally right
I’m skeptical when people assert that practical examples of socialism/communism in the real world aren’t valid forms. You could just as easily conclude that the faults of capitalism aren’t actually conceptual, but rather due to poor utilization of the system in recent years. One thing that I don’t think many people understand is it’s one thing to conceptualize a system among economic philosophers, but it’s a completely different thing to implement that system in the real world. Human nature and the nature of human societies isn’t something that we can always account for when conceptualizing these systems, and with past evidences of what this video asserts were pseudo-communist countries, it’s not clear to many people that communism produces its promised effects. Even if we were to implement an overwhelmingly socialist or communist system in the USA, I’m not sold on the idea that it will just work out better than it has throughout history.
I disagree with the fact that the greed of the government is the sole reason we’ve never seen a true communist government, revolutionaries who were assassinated and the one I’m thinking of is Thomas sankara may have been able to get to that point
Thomas was assassinated by the government (CIAl
There's also Leon Trotsky, who was said to be assassinated by the Soviets during his exile.
"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why they are poor, they call me a communist." - Archbishop Hélder
If only I understood whatever this meant
@@thegoofiekilla it is a reference to the terme ideology defined by Marx. It means that the poor want to survive, but due to ideology they refuse to understand the cause of their suffering: capitalist exploitation. (see marx for the definition of capitalist exploitation and the surplus theory)
@@MsMattmatt24 THIS. So many people say things that are about dismantling capitalism or have communist ideals, but when you say 'communism' they freeze. My mum and her generation and the generation before had widespread communist beliefs in Thailand but when I said her favourite band was communist she looked shocked and didn't understand.
@@fairy5668 true. I think that if people would know what communism is really about, the vast majority would agree with that school of thoughts.
Because at the end of the day, it is about freedom, justice and fraternity.
@@MsMattmatt24 Freedom and fraternity? Hardly. Communism enslaves people through the subjugation and ownership of their labor. The only groups of people who stand to benefit from communism are the ultra poor, the lazy, and current communists. Everyone else stands to gain nothing and lose everything.
Communism is akin to slavery in pre-Civil War America, but expanded to include everyone.
I played his on my friends phone, it’s not his phone anymore, it’s our phone.
Hehehe.
Devote your life to susej read susej backwards
It's really not fair to put HCM in the same rank w Stalin, Maduro or Kim Jong Un. He was a revolutionary, not a dictator
HCM ruled Vietnam from 1945 until he died of a heart attack in 1969. He _was_ a dictator.
@@ancap_rem Many world leaders have died in office. Is Kennedy a dictator too?
i dunno about HCM himself but if he were alive when Vietnam unified, the communists wouldve kicked him out anyways. they kicked out the true revolutionaries, sent them running to France and USA
This guy said, "corruption is rampant in countries like the former USSR, Venezuela, Vietnam and North Korea" (3:20). Does this guy not know that corruption in capitalist societies like the US, UK, etc., is not only ubiquitous but is also higher (in currency terms) than those countries he named? What's more, the level of corruption in the capitalist societies is often downplayed, concealing the true (higher) level of corruption in a country. For example, many US politicians, even tens of millions of Americans would not consider AIPAC lobbying US politicians for influence in Palestine Proper, to be corruption. Corruption in these capitalist societies is so widespread it's legalized (Citizens United).
"There are two kinds of equality. The equality that levels and destroys, and the equality that elevates and creates."
-- Benjamin Disraeli
"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"
- George Orwell
@@msosa9735 Actually if you research the Incan Empire and its M'ita labour system you'll see that this proto-socialist system was ever-expanding and created fantastically efficient transportation and agricultural systems. The problem with it though was that it required the empire to continually expand, but I guess you could say that about GDPs today.
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🌟༻🅹🅰🆈🅵🅰༺ ✓ • 5 years ago marx was an egalitarian. he called egalitarian hunter-gatherer societies a type of primitive communism because everyone worked together.
@@Genericwhitemail ah yes those word Im bout to say at Hitler
"an inspirational quote said by a famous historical figure"
- me
"one inspirational quote spoke by a famous historical figure"
-omar salem
Well said
Tear in my eyes
ok Omar, I felt ENLIGHTED!
@@nemoh1649 me too😜💪😂
Everything government touches, it destroys.
I don't believe the idea of everyone working to better society would ever work
"I don't eat peanuts."
-Karl Marx
I didnt get it
Charolastra Could it be a joke about Ad hominem?
@@cambridge5770 It's a statement about how neither Marx not Engles practiced what they preached.
Nissan GTR better than M3
@@MaskHysteria I thought it was about him getting the peanut shells stuck in his beard. Thank you for explaining this.
True communism only exist in the family, where others come first. A country is just a lot of people to support such a noble concept.
not in all families
Families are not Communist, if they have Parents who support their children and bring them up to be strong ambitious Individuals who strive for Achievement.
What you were describing is a bunch of people living under the same roof, like a crack house.
Oh wait, you are right about Communism ! 😆
@David Anewman
Exactly, only those who don't love their families, would choose Communism.
@David Anewman
This is America.
I'm Cuban American, escaped Castro in 1961. Learn not only English, but to love this Country with all of my heart. Graduated with Honors, served 10 years in the Military. Retired with 30 years as a Law Enforcement Officer.
Got my Teaching Degree while working with the Patrol. Everyone can make it in this Country. If they want to...
"I don't pity the poor, nor envy the rich. I live my own life".
🙂
@David Anewman Only the Socialists. Then they started building rafts.
Very simple, a Socialist is a Communist who is a better liar.
1:43 “in socialism, a democratic state cont-“
Stop
Zoom right there
“democratic”
*turns to every communist dictator after Stalin*
“Did you even read the manifesto?”
*Dictators stare into the void*
Well they were elected, but not by the people but by the main party and some block parties.
The problem was: These poeple basically controlled the party that elected them.
So once again, humanity destroyed what could've been a great thing
Corruption is the source of the whole world's problems. It doesn't matter what the system is if someone exploits it for their own betterment at the expense of another. Equality in all interactions is the ideal everyone need to aim for.
I'd say selfishness is the true evil. :(
I would say that selflessness is the root of all evil. All Authoritarian regimes on the left or the right advocated the repression of the "self" for the greater good of the collective. Sacrifice yourself for others. Let ants be our model. 🤔😎
The success of socialism is still worst than the mistakes of capitalism
Equality is the goal of most human beings. Your above statement regarding corruption is the reason why complete equality is never obtained.
@@adventuresnorthwest3643 Then there is equity to consider.
"USSR!"
-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
Wait, this is true but the soviets is communist so what?
@@martin_xv dude, do not ever doubt the red baron
@@martin_xv this is where the stalinism and marxism mixes up... because in terms of marxism ussr was still in the middle step of socialism (for more than 50 years) while in terms of stalinism and stalin ideas, he was already pretty happy with the ussr so there was no reason for him to abdicate the power
@@martin_xv they are not communist they are socialists
Very good job for such a short video. A lot of people fail to explain this.
As far as the failures to attain communism, I think that was the shortcoming of Marx, made worse by Lenin. That kind of project can not be imposed from above. It has to be built from below.
That's what the whole idea of it was but Leninism and later Marxism-Leninism (Stalinism) became the most popular form of "Communism". Essentially the Centre and Right of Communism believe that the State is they only way of building towards Communism, where as Council Communist build the power from councils elected by the proletariat, starting at the local level.
并不是不是没有自下而上建立的共产主义组织，只不过它们都没能活下来。
The final causality statement "The human hurdle of overcoming power and greed and government is the biggest reason we've never seen a true communist country."
makes sense just like "due to corruption we have never sent a man on the sun".
Avoiding to mention the various angles of logical absurdity that communism possesses can be motivated by any misleading implication (be it intentionally or not).
I think no matter what system you implement it does not really matter, someone will always disagree and given time one or many will find a way to destroy it
Lol good point
I also think that there are times where one system works better than the others. I think in time of war socialism works better.
I do not agree, according to Marx himself that systems fails because of the contradictions that creates (historical materialism) , so if we had a system that doesn't create contradictions (communism) it would not fail, but socialism does tho because it has classes still.
That, and people are flawed and corrupt and power hungry and evil. So no system created by man will ever work.
Thus, the smaller system the better
@@liberalizzzm4908 Principally because Socialism is really a precursor to Communism.
"Everyone wants to be a philosopher but only few can be truly philosophical..."
-philosopher
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Yes
WAIT you mean Soviet Union was not a communist country aswell?
If you incur the risk you should get the benefit. If a company were to go bankrupt the CEO has to pay the downside and pay off all the debt he incurred while the worker is just out of a job. If you work in a factory with a lot of machines and gadgets the owner had to buy the gadgets with his money to make your labor more productive so that the production of said product can be done faster.
Also, by definition, there has never been a country that practiced "true" free market capitalism. The state has always had its fingers in the pie and bad actors have always used the state to secure unfair advantages in the market place.
Yup. Liberty if always the first to fall
I would say that there has never been a country where the state has not been influenced and even owned by the financial system and big corporations. The free market that most so called libertarians advocate for is already a reality and that's is why we live in a economical Darwinist jungle where who has the most money can do whatever they want.
Somalia is free market capitalism
ultimately society needs some form of coercion to function. The difference between socialism in all its forms & capitalism is that in the latter you may voice your opinon without fear of assasination, poisoning or imprisonment, as in Putin's Russia
@@guyvert49 - you have authoritarianism mixed up with socialism. Putin's Russia is an authoritarian, capitalist oligarchy.
"NOTHING BAD EVER HAPPENS TO THE KENNEDY'S"
- JFK
Oof
5 seconds later he would be shot in the head
Nek minute
So...what's the difference? As usual, someone thinks saying two definitions in a row is the same as declaring the difference. Oh how it is not.
Hi Sir, Based on what I know about countries in the world, North Korea does not claim to be communist, but its official name is:
"Democratic People's Republic Of Korea"
Please do correct me if I am wrong.
Shouldn’t our economy serve humanity rather than the other way around?
Just sayin
Well u gotta serve to get served back
Yes, comrade, it should
@@thegod2291 username checks out.
@deadshot So
Samething.
"This comment isn't any more profound for being in quotes."
"Come on Barbie let's go party"
- Ho Chi Minh -
Hello! I'm interested in learning more about Communism and Socialism. I don't really know where to start learning about it, so to anyone knowledgeable on this, can you kindly send me links to any articles or videos so I can learn more about it? Thanks!
Communism is Marx's version of socialism. It's worth reading "Essential Works of Marx" if you are interested. Outside of Marx's tradition (Lenin, Stalin, Mao), socialism gets dark and antisemitic. Inside of Marx's tradition, it's pretty dark and antisemitic, too.
@@soulcapitalist6204 Thanks! I'll check that out sometime.
@@GentleeDuckie
Try the video 'Socialism for Absolute Beginners' by 'Second Thought'.
The Name says it all, but you shouldnt stop there and watch a Non-Socialis named 'Some More News' talk a lot about Socialism
@@GentleeDuckie leaving a comment so I can get back.
Democracy at work, anark, and vaush are good places to start. This video was trash, regret ending up here, second thought has some good stuff but I don't like some of his views regarding authoritarian states like china.
"Takes only what they need" right - which is why Golden Corral exists
Gobble Corral made me the GREAT man I am today.
what if one needs everything?...my precious...
Lol 😂
Golden corrals doesnt exist in socialist countries only the U S A
I think imma go make a completely over the top scooby doo type sandwich just cuz i can
I need more than the next guy. So either get out my way, or fight me for it
"Look. If you had one shot or one opportunity to seize everything you ever wanted in one moment, would you capture it, or let it slip."
-Stalin to Trotsky 1922.
Snap back to the capital
Oops there goes the bourgeoisie
Whoops here's democracy
(Loses election)
Nope, no democracy
Yea Communist/Socialist Governments own everything... citizens are just slaves of the Government.
I really wanted to watch this, and learn, but background music should be in the background. It's so loud it's too distracting. :(
Corruption is a small part of the issue. The bigger issue is lack of positive incentives or reinforced negative incentives.
I'm waiting for Joseph Stalin comment , he use to comment on all your video when you were seeker
i'll hopp into his role as the swiss stalin
"Stalin approves"
-*Stalin not too powerful*
The USSR: Democratic or Totalitarian?
-*Purges and Repression*
The Purges and Repressions in the USSR
-*Trotsky being the true replacement*
TheFinnishBolshevik- Lenin's "Testament" Debunked
-*Hiding food (Kulaks)*
Argument ad Venezuelum
-*Again hiding food, but in the USSR*
Gorbachev Created the Artificial Shortage of Food
-*More foot shortage*
Food Shortages and Problems in the USSR
*BUT*
Universal Healthcare is not socialism, or not even a bit.
And Soviet means a workers council.
Trotsky has nothing really in common with Marxism.
Trotsky was undemocratic and didn't understand the system of "Dictatorship of the Proletariat"
Ur momgeyyd
In Soviet Union Russia .. [insert joke]
my days are long gone
You haven't even mentioned Cuba.
@@jetstream6389. I am a Cuban citizen and I do not want a capitalism without freedom like China, you have no right to speak in the name of my people. I rather live poor than without freedom.
How about China under Mao with its epic failures like the Great Leap Forward.
@@jetstream6389 Cuba is only poor because of sanctioning by the U.S. They would not need capitalism, because with open trade and tourism there would be an overflow of money in their economy.
@@leonmusic4632 well said.
@@leonmusic4632 ? China freedom?
You speak truly good, your way of speaking must be thought in schools.