Well... BUT people cannot be trusted "to contribute what they can and take only what they need". Until people stop being people, Socialism and Communism will never happen. When the children grow up, they will see this more clearly.
It doesn’t even matter if things are distributed equally….can you imagine every time someone took a test at school and the class was graded on a curve where everyone got the same score? What’s the point in trying?
I love how people use the term "equal" to represent forced total equality, then use it to describe Communism, when the most famous Communism quote is "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs", a sentence that literally says "no it's not equal"
Besides massive government corruption at all levels the USSR had difficulty with production. To each according to his ability resulted in a less productive society. Always the end result of Socialism.
@@ventureoutwest The problems of the USSR had to do with its competition with the United States. Their influence globally was drastically smaller than that of the US and was not founded on exploitation, so they simply couldn't compete. But they weren't left much choice as the US saw the success of the anti-bourgeoisie principle as an existential threat to its own credibility, hence needed to make the USSR fail by any means necessary. Ignoring the embargo's, propaganda and other aggressive anti-communist campaigns of the US, the USSR had to juggle its resources in both military and public welfare, all while rebuilding its economy from the globally unprecedented devastation WW2 had caused due to being the main theater of war unlike the rather uninvolved US. To do this most of its income had to come from the state capitalism, which created a dependency on the very system and corruption it paradoxically sought to abolish. It was the confounding public discontent after Afghanistan sunk it into an economic depression that the USSR collapsed. So ironically(not really), the downfall of the USSR had to do with its capitalist remnants that the US ensured to stay in place. It was not socialism, but the lack thereof that condemned it to economic collapse. In fact in every area were the USSR was socialized, which is to say public facilities(transport, healthcare, education), housing and essential needs, it was far superior to the United States.
Maybe it’s the naïveté. Maybe it’s the childish music in the background. Communism will never exist just like the Easter Bunny will never exist. Despots will always rise.
@@drunkenmmamaster419 mom is a complex social concept that can be even harder to understand than the concept of god People don't get the concepts, too stupid for that.
Stalinism as an ideology doesn't properly exist; in fact Stalin himself was not a "Stalinist," but a Marxist-Leninist. Stalinism simply refers to the policies enacted by Stalin, but he wasn't following his own separate ideology when forming or enacting those policies, he was simply following Marxist-Leninist thought
Debatable, Stalin's specific plans for modernising the USSR could be called Stalinism, although it's very silly for anyone who isn't living in 20th century Russia to claim to be a 'Stalinist'
Can you please point out where Marx prescribed dictatorship? If you can't, then you can't call Stalin a "marxist" - spoileralert: You can't. Two giant propaganda-machines have upheld the notion that the USSR was a communistic endeavour: The sovjets - in order to gain legitimacy within, and the US - to scare the world. Neither of them were right.
I disagree with the fact that the greed of the government is the sole reason we’ve never seen a true communist government, revolutionaries who were assassinated and the one I’m thinking of is Thomas sankara may have been able to get to that point
Communism will never be achieved because it relies too much on the conformity of people. Same reason why true capitalism has never been achieved. People are greedy.
“The goal of socialism is communism” Vladimir Lenin
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ejsvifq mabmip, Never mind what you think I sounds like how about answering the perfectly valid questions I asked you about your previous comment:- Are you saying that the Russian, Chinese, Cuban, revolutions were not at the time they happened justifiable results of corrupt autocratic rule by those in charge of the countries concerned? And what has AIDS got to do with the raise of Communism? We can blame Communism or capitalism for a lot of things but aids?
Kim Jung Un Vladimir Putin is not a socialism tirade or believe in communism he went to the American system of democracy what does that tell you you moron
Kim Jung Un give nobody private ownership of property or businesses which leaves THE GOVERNMENT TO COME AND THAT YO $HIT! NO THANKS! NOTICE HOW THEY DON'T EXPLAIN A TAX SYSTEM OR NOTHING? IT'S A PURE SCAM! THE SOCIALISM GIVES MORE POWER TO THE GOVERNMENT. THE COMMUNISM TAKES POWER AWAY FROM THE POWERFUL BILLION DOLLAR COMPANIES IN CORPORATIONS. THEN THE GOVERNMENT SWOOPS IN AND TAKES IT. CORPORATIONS AND RICH COMPANIES ARE BAD BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO BE RULED BY A GOVERNMENT THEY ARE HORRIBLE. THESE CORPORATIONS DON'T OWN YOU, WHEN GOVERNMENTS TAKE OVER THEY OWN YOU. IN AMERICA IT'S PRETTY BAD FOR THE POOR AND LOWER CLASSES, BUT THE GOVERNMENT CAN'T JUST COME AND TAKE EVERYTHING YOU WANT UNLESS YOU BORROWED MONEY AND DIDN'T PAY BACK. A CAPITALIST DEMOCRACY + SOCIALISM, AND A PROPERLY FUNCTIONING REPUBLIC, WITH NO CORRUPTION IS THE ULTIMATE SYSTEM.
"Socialism is when the government does stuff. And the more stuff it does, the more socialist it is. And if it does a real lot of stuff, it's communism." -Vladimir Lenin or something
This guy said, "corruption is rampant in countries like the former USSR, Venezuela, Vietnam and North Korea" (3:20). Does this guy not know that corruption in capitalist societies like the US, UK, etc., is not only ubiquitous but is also higher (in currency terms) than those countries he named? What's more, the level of corruption in the capitalist societies is often downplayed, concealing the true (higher) level of corruption in a country. For example, many US politicians, even tens of millions of Americans would not consider AIPAC lobbying US politicians for influence in Palestine Proper, to be corruption. Corruption in these capitalist societies is so widespread it's legalized (Citizens United).
And you will also get supplies from your classmates too... So students in the classroom shares what they have with other classmates and so the whole classroom will never be short of anything and live equally, satisfactorily. That's the power of cummunism/socialism. You want poor students to watch rich students eating potato chips??? Then, it's called Bloody capitalism.
"Which countries have been labeled communist? And how do they actually live up to their reputations? Find out in this video to the right." *War in Afghanistan: 17 years later | NowThisWorld*
The problem with Socialism and Communism is in their core ideas. Main and most important rule of both ideas is "Dictatorship of proletariat" which means no other ideas, political parties are allowed in state where Socialism and Communism rule.
“Dictatorship of the proletariat” because dictatorship under the bourgeois is beyond awful, i’ve seen this argument before, i think its important to point out every political part that isn’t a people’s party serves to establish or maintain capitalism so its important for the dictatorship of the proletariat to have one representative party
All of the answer,you've got a very correct and brilliant answer!you are correct,dictatorship of proletariat,not only proletariat''it's also communism and socialism,is a single communist party system DICTATORSHIP...
@@lcdream4213Dictatorship actually recreates a set of social hierarchies which Marxism originally aimed at destroying. You can't want a classless society but wanting a class of it to rule everything.
Families are not Communist, if they have Parents who support their children and bring them up to be strong ambitious Individuals who strive for Achievement. What you were describing is a bunch of people living under the same roof, like a crack house. Oh wait, you are right about Communism ! 😆
@David Anewman This is America. I'm Cuban American, escaped Castro in 1961. Learn not only English, but to love this Country with all of my heart. Graduated with Honors, served 10 years in the Military. Retired with 30 years as a Law Enforcement Officer. Got my Teaching Degree while working with the Patrol. Everyone can make it in this Country. If they want to... "I don't pity the poor, nor envy the rich. I live my own life". 🙂
Brandon he said that because he didn't agree with the Frankfurt school of thought that espoused cultural marxism and personally called himself a scientific socialist, not a marxist. You my friend are deliberately miss quoting him to further your agenda.
A Revolutionary Fox : As a communist I also think we should abandon the terms "marxist" or "marxian". To me, Marx was as useful to the communist movement as Gracchus Babeuf or Peter Kropotkin... And it makes us look like a sect^^
A Revolutionary Fox lmao the Frankfurt school didn't even exist in Marx's time. In 1880 Marx was assisting French socialists in writing the program for the Worker's party of France. Marx did help the party in writing the program but had some serious disagreements with them. Marx had issues with demanding better work conditions and wages from the bourgeoisie. This is where the quote comes into proper context. Marx wanted to destroy the idea that if demanding such reforms from the capitalists is believed to be mainstream Marxism, then he is not a Marxist. "Cultural Marxism" academically speaking, is defined by 3 groups of neo-marxist theorists (labelled The Frankfurt School's 'Cultural Marxism', The Birmingham School's 'British Cultural Marxism', and E.P. Thompson's 'Thompsonian Cultural Marxism') - all of whom critiqued aspects of "mass culture". The Frankfurt School started it all by describing The Culture Industry. Adorno writes things like this in his critique of The Culture Industry: "The dependence of the most powerful broadcasting company on the electrical industry, or of the motion picture industry on the banks, is characteristic of the whole sphere, whose individual branches are themselves economically interwoven." They were the first thinkers to realize there was a 'corporate media' which pushed it's own corporate values and agenda. Adorno says things like: "The Culture Industry not so much adapts to the reactions of its customers as it counterfeits them." The Frankfurt School didn't like pop-culture at all, the Culture Industry Wikipedia page says "Adorno and Horkheimer especially perceived mass-produced culture as dangerous to the more technically and intellectually difficult high arts" - so they believed pop-culture was a risk to Western Civilization. The Birmingham School came after The Frankfurt School and quite liked British Working Class culture. The founders of The Birmingham School were WW2 vets, and their complaints focused on the 'cultural drift' away from the strong, local, community based cultures which they loved, and towards a more bland globalized culture (a process they called "massification"). Other theorists such as Max Horkheimer (of The Frankfurt School) rallied against the application of science without morality. He called this "instrumental reason" and took the Kantian moral position that reason without morality could cause nightmares (such as the application of science during the Holocaust). The Frankfurt School were big against the Holocaust, and contributed to the Nuremberg Trial - which later led to the creation of modern medical ethics boards. This has all somehow been misconstrued as their attack on Western Civilization - even though The Frankfurt School were specifically trying to protect the arts from pop-culture. Later Frankfurt School theorists such as Jurgen Habermas, and Nancy Fraser have specifically critiqued things like Post-Modern relativism and even Identity Politics. The term "Cultural Marxism" has since become a right wing misrepresentation of the (left wing) Frankfurt School. It's now tied into the theory they were "International Jewish Communists" trying to "Destroy American Academia and Hollywood". You can judge whether that's true for yourself.
Communism is the higher stage of Socialism which means a non-capitalist society. A capitalist market-economy with social welfare programmes, social security etc. is called Social-Democracy or Social-Liberalism.
Corruption is the source of the whole world's problems. It doesn't matter what the system is if someone exploits it for their own betterment at the expense of another. Equality in all interactions is the ideal everyone need to aim for.
I would say that selflessness is the root of all evil. All Authoritarian regimes on the left or the right advocated the repression of the "self" for the greater good of the collective. Sacrifice yourself for others. Let ants be our model. 🤔😎
Also, by definition, there has never been a country that practiced "true" free market capitalism. The state has always had its fingers in the pie and bad actors have always used the state to secure unfair advantages in the market place.
I would say that there has never been a country where the state has not been influenced and even owned by the financial system and big corporations. The free market that most so called libertarians advocate for is already a reality and that's is why we live in a economical Darwinist jungle where who has the most money can do whatever they want.
ultimately society needs some form of coercion to function. The difference between socialism in all its forms & capitalism is that in the latter you may voice your opinon without fear of assasination, poisoning or imprisonment, as in Putin's Russia
“A State divided into a small number of rich and a large number of poor will always develop a government manipulated by the rich to protect the amenities represented by their property.” - Harold Laski
There is a Natural law, popularly known as the 80/20 principle. It's a natural law because till now it has always manifested itself in all fields of Reality. And one of the fields is Economics. The minority of the population will always hold the Majority of wealth and the Majority will always own the minority of wealth. Carl Marx observed this in all Capitalistic economies and created a system he thought would avoid this major flaw. And Marxism did just that. No longer did the 20%(or less) own 80% of wealth. Now, only 1% owned almost everything. In short, a state will always be divided into a small number of rich and a large number of poor. Why? It's a natural law. How? I don't know.
@@rajatsinghbhandari9549 How? The possible answer is that the human intelligence varies and the range of this variation is quite large. Also there are different types of intelligence. Not all of them are equally effective to pruduce goods and services. For example a man with higher interpersonal intelligence is good at understanding and interacting with people. So he has a better potential to create an industry than a man with higher philosopical intelligence. Now it will be very stupid and unjust to forcefully bring them at a similar economic class. The person who can produce more for the society will earn more that's the right thing to do. And many brilliant person will remain poor just because their intelligence is not able to generate that much for others. And wealth is nothing but cumulative income of multiple generations. Wealth didn’t come from sky. One valid arguement is that why people should inherit the total property of their parents. Its true that incompetent people get lucky this way without having any real ability. This is the thing i don’t understand. Should a person have wealth which he could not earn otherwise?
@@Lonestar10443 Yeah, I agree that inequalities are natural and equality is impossible and that explains why the 80/20 rule applies to Humans. But that doesn't explain why it works elsewhere, like space or nature. And why inheritance? Because most parents love their children and want them to live an easy life and money helps with that.
@i get it what decision? And the tyranny starts when government takes the wealth of your ancestors from you and give it to the people who never earned it at the first place. I will never work hard in a socialist country so that the gov can take my money from my children and others get benefited with it.
@@msosa9735 Actually if you research the Incan Empire and its M'ita labour system you'll see that this proto-socialist system was ever-expanding and created fantastically efficient transportation and agricultural systems. The problem with it though was that it required the empire to continually expand, but I guess you could say that about GDPs today.
🌟༻🅹🅰🆈🅵🅰༺ ✓ • 5 years ago marx was an egalitarian. he called egalitarian hunter-gatherer societies a type of primitive communism because everyone worked together.
1:43 “in socialism, a democratic state cont-“ Stop Zoom right there “democratic” *turns to every communist dictator after Stalin* “Did you even read the manifesto?” *Dictators stare into the void*
Well they were elected, but not by the people but by the main party and some block parties. The problem was: These poeple basically controlled the party that elected them. So once again, humanity destroyed what could've been a great thing
I think no matter what system you implement it does not really matter, someone will always disagree and given time one or many will find a way to destroy it
I do not agree, according to Marx himself that systems fails because of the contradictions that creates (historical materialism) , so if we had a system that doesn't create contradictions (communism) it would not fail, but socialism does tho because it has classes still.
@@antrikshdixit8568 also, you do realize that's a terrible argument given how relatively few socialist/communist countries there's been right? socialism has only been around for about a century. all the major socialist (no country has actually been communist) countries have also only been one ideology - Marxism-Leninism (or Marxism-Leninism-Maoism)
*"There is always some thing to envy. a smile, the friendship, something you don't have to appropriate. There will always be rich and poor."* - Enemy at the Gates Like narcissism, communism is a by product of envy
saying that wanting equality is being envious is extremely shallow. Capitalism wants to sell the idea that anybody can be crazy rich if they work hard enough, but these are all fairy tales. To climb the social ladder is nearly impossible for many and most of the time is based on luck. of course elon musk had it easier, his father was rich ti begin with, so his son could study and invest on the empire he has today. but what if he was born in a poor village of Ethiopia? we would have never heard of him. or what if he worked in a sweatshop? do you think that "with enough hard work" he would be where he is today? Plus it is very simplistic to think that poor people are poor because they put themselves in that situation, that is just not true. "work harder and maybe you will have it better" do you think that those kids digging for gold and silicon 14h a day for maybe 2 dollars a day is not working hard? and the ceo who is making them work is probably working harder, right? I am not a communist, but statements like yours fuel me with anger, ignorance is rampant
3:21-3:33 It’s just everyone trying to hold each other back… That’s why anarchy might be the only solution because people want to abuse their power and freedoms.
“Everyone takes just what they need.” Oh ok. That’s realistic and definitely held up well during the pandemic of 2020 when people were fighting each other in store aisles trying to stock up on toilet paper and ground meat.
@@thegoofiekilla it is a reference to the terme ideology defined by Marx. It means that the poor want to survive, but due to ideology they refuse to understand the cause of their suffering: capitalist exploitation. (see marx for the definition of capitalist exploitation and the surplus theory)
@@MsMattmatt24 THIS. So many people say things that are about dismantling capitalism or have communist ideals, but when you say 'communism' they freeze. My mum and her generation and the generation before had widespread communist beliefs in Thailand but when I said her favourite band was communist she looked shocked and didn't understand.
@@fairy5668 true. I think that if people would know what communism is really about, the vast majority would agree with that school of thoughts. Because at the end of the day, it is about freedom, justice and fraternity.
@@MsMattmatt24 Freedom and fraternity? Hardly. Communism enslaves people through the subjugation and ownership of their labor. The only groups of people who stand to benefit from communism are the ultra poor, the lazy, and current communists. Everyone else stands to gain nothing and lose everything. Communism is akin to slavery in pre-Civil War America, but expanded to include everyone.
Actually he is not comparing…….he is actually lying through his teeth. This is what Socialists do…..lie, deceive and kill by the millions. Sweden is an “Open Market Economy.” That was lie number one…..need I go on?
@@AlexGuzman-ff1ud To be fair I watched this video with an open mind and capitalism still sounds like the best option. Giving that much power to the government through socialism and communism is never good. Look at how corrupt they already are. Giving them more authority wouldn't help anyone. And when they describe communism in the video they say "people work together to be happy, healthy and free and only take what they need". In a utopian world where people actually act like this and the Dictator wouldn't abuse his powers, sure I would support communism. But in reality people are greedy, they will always take more and work less and the dictator will abuse his powers.
1:12 Thatvis the mistake in all socialist views. Rhe owner makes more BECAUSE he risks more AND paid more in the first place (to build up the company one needs assets, land and a building for ex.) As a worler i can simply change my job when a company goes bankrupt while the owner looses most of what he has.
Golden corrals doesnt exist in socialist countries only the U S A I think imma go make a completely over the top scooby doo type sandwich just cuz i can
@@martin_xv this is where the stalinism and marxism mixes up... because in terms of marxism ussr was still in the middle step of socialism (for more than 50 years) while in terms of stalinism and stalin ideas, he was already pretty happy with the ussr so there was no reason for him to abdicate the power
Karl Marx was a revolutionary thinker whose ideas reshaped the landscape of political and economic thought, sparking movements that continue to influence global discourse. Born into a middle-class Jewish family, Marx's intellectual journey took him from the philosophical circles of the Young Hegelians to the forefront of radical journalism and eventually to the formulation of his groundbreaking theories on capitalism and class struggle. Marx's collaboration with Friedrich Engels produced the "Communist Manifesto," a clarion call for the working class that succinctly captured the exploitative dynamics of capitalism. This work, along with his magnum opus Das Kapital, laid the foundation for Marxism, a doctrine that not only critiqued capitalism but also envisioned its overthrow through proletarian revolution. What sets Marx apart is his materialist conception of history, which argued that economic structures fundamentally shape societal institutions, politics, and culture. His theory of surplus value exposed the inherent exploitation within capitalist economies, where the labor of the many enriches the few. This critique resonated deeply with the working class and intellectuals alike, inspiring socialist and communist movements that sought to realize Marx's vision of a classless society. However, Marx's legacy is complex. While his analysis of capitalism's flaws remains incisive, the implementation of Marxist ideas in the 20th century, particularly in the Soviet Union and Maoist China, led to regimes that were often authoritarian and oppressive. These outcomes have led to vigorous debates about the applicability and interpretation of Marx's ideas. Marx's enduring influence lies in his ability to articulate the deep-seated inequities of capitalism and to envision a radically different world. Whether celebrated as a prophet of the working class or critiqued as an ideologue whose ideas were misused, Marx remains one of the most significant and contentious figures in modern history. His work continues to provoke thought and inspire movements, making him a towering figure whose ideas cannot be ignored, even in the 21st century.
Do You take all those free plastic spoons in every cafeteria You enter? This video is wrong about that communism starts as soon as state gott all the control. Nope. It starts as soon as wealth in same abundance as those spoons. "Communism = Socialism + Electrification of whole country" (c) Lenin (Yep, they believed that once elictricity will be everywhere, wealth will be in abundance...)
@@slicemf5347 Why are you using spoons as your analogy? For your one example with spoons I can counter with hundreds of examples where people take more than they need if it is free, such as houses, food, clothing, water, wood, oil, etc. Also, there will never be abundance, the best we can do is let a free market allocate resources most efficiently.
@@amarmesic7170 I mean its probably because those things mean more to a capitalist society. More houses and all seems like more wealth, which leads to higher social standing and it starts to compound into more wealth over time. In a socialist society having enough IS enough and you get more from experiences, rather than materials, equally. Like how everyone could be allocated vacation with the choice of doing anything. so someone can actually afford a cruise where in a capitalist society theyd never could. Its not really possible tho Im just playing devil's advocate. edit: also im oversimplifying it.
Everything, including "experiences," costs money, or some other resource. There exists no society where all, nay, most of its members won't take more resources than they know they need. And that's not accounting for those people who really do think they need more than they actually do.
Aparently, Marx himself wrote "in socialism you get paid according to your work, in communism you work according to ability and receive according to need". In the Socialist warsaw-pact countries this meant miners were paid more per hour than doctors. For many Socialists, socialism is not just a stepping stone to Communism, but good enough by itself. Many Communists however believe that Communism won't be a feasible option until decades or centuries of Socialism have "eradicated scarcity". Also, neither Socialism nor Communism are about the state or about abolishing private possessions. They"are about the *means of production* being owned by local democratic collectives. One of the goals of Communism is that the state "withers away". Some people call themselves anarcho-communist or anarcho-socialist to distance themselves from hierarchical/centralist ones and from the so-called "anarcho-capitalists"
Several problems, not the least of which is the failure to identify the “going through” socialism to get to communism was a Leninist idea. State control of the production means, secondly, is more properly called state capitalism, not Socialism. Under that form of eco my, the state becomes the capitalist. Marx himself made no distinction between socialism and communism. As Engels noted in a preface to the Manifesto, they only chose the word “communist” because at that time those who called themselves Socialists wanted to reform the worst aspects of capitalism whereas Marx advocated its abolition.
I found the information very interesting, but the music annoying. An informational video does not have to have mood music, and is usually diminished by it.
@@nathangg8429 people have right to kill another people to survive. Because i can kill you than you can also kill me so since both of us is afraid of death we give our 'right' to kill others to the state of law so we can safe and survive this live. As long as people in society is still give up their right to the law of society there are no free society and because the societies is not free society therefore there are no free country. US is not the close to what free country look like since the hierarchical law still chain up the society to abide it so US is just the same as another countries in this planet not more free than the others, since the different is just what law should enacted and dont, it not make one country more free tha others because that country is still have that law that individual give their right for it.
There will never be a full scale communist country. Because society is full of people who would rather not work but only receive instead (myself included). I need external stimuli to get me to work - either government mandate (socialism) or a system where I receive goods only when I contribute (capitalism). I will also go out and say that all attempts at pure socialism or pure capitalism will fail miserably. It has to be some mix of the two. (Even the US is somewhat socialist given that the government collects taxes for upkeep of many services). The Scandinavian model of capitalistic socialism is the best. Provides the poorest people woth enough cushioning to keep them afloat but not enough to afford them great comforts without working for it.
"Look. If you had one shot or one opportunity to seize everything you ever wanted in one moment, would you capture it, or let it slip." -Stalin to Trotsky 1922.
i'll hopp into his role as the swiss stalin "Stalin approves" -*Stalin not too powerful* The USSR: Democratic or Totalitarian? -*Purges and Repression* The Purges and Repressions in the USSR -*Trotsky being the true replacement* TheFinnishBolshevik- Lenin's "Testament" Debunked -*Hiding food (Kulaks)* Argument ad Venezuelum -*Again hiding food, but in the USSR* Gorbachev Created the Artificial Shortage of Food -*More foot shortage* Food Shortages and Problems in the USSR *BUT* Universal Healthcare is not socialism, or not even a bit. And Soviet means a workers council. Trotsky has nothing really in common with Marxism. Trotsky was undemocratic and didn't understand the system of "Dictatorship of the Proletariat"
The way I was taught, Marx's writings were theory, he knew the inherit actions of man would never let it come to reality. Summed up by ,"power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely". Short version.
@@jetstream6389. I am a Cuban citizen and I do not want a capitalism without freedom like China, you have no right to speak in the name of my people. I rather live poor than without freedom.
@@jetstream6389 Cuba is only poor because of sanctioning by the U.S. They would not need capitalism, because with open trade and tourism there would be an overflow of money in their economy.
Mobey Us Trip and those are the same exact people who will say communism doesn’t work. when in reality humanity has never gave it a good shot. i personally believe its completely possible and would benefit everyone.
@@fairy5668 Heaven is described as freedom of suffering. The idea Abrahamic faiths paint is that life is inherently suffering and that heaven is meant to be a sort of liberation from life as we know it. Trying to box a philosophical concept into a political agenda doesn't work as politics themselves are fuelled by suffering. Politicising heaven would defeat the purpose of it all together.
Corruption is in almost every government. An example is in the USA, where lobbyists are well-known to manipulate laws and decisions to the benefit of the few.
You can't collectively work to being "happy healthy and free" because everyone has a different perception of happiness and you'll definitely not be free when the government forces you to do their bidding.
*Dib* Wtf are you talking about? Lol Freedom, to Marx, is having to work fewer hours since surplus would be removed from the equation. By needing to work fewer hours, you are free to live your life to find what fulfills you and makes you happy. The point of socialism, in the Marxian sense, isn’t the government demanding what you are to do, but you demanding what you want the government to do (empowered unions and greater democracy).
@@stevedoetsch Socialism is all about central planning and central planning is tyranny . Socialism is pure evil shitfest, commienizm is even worse. Soviet union showed everything about socialism/communism.
@@UniDeathRaven You seem to be completely unaware of what you're talking about lol. Socialism and communism tend to be forms of economic theory, unrelated to the level of state control. You're confusing the idea of authoritarianism with socialism and communism.
There's a political commentator and economist from Chile whom i once heard say: "Socialism is always in the future, never in the present". Now i get what he meant.
Социализм был в СССР. В СССР была бесплатная медицина, бесплатное образование. В СССР был самый большой процент научных людей на процент населения за все время истории человечества! Этот чилийский обозреватель - обычный капиталист.
No, they are Socialists in Sweden, etc... They just don't know it. They've been lied to... they are people conned and keep regurgitating that lie in stubborn ignorance, and due to a life of cowardice, and a Socialistic biased education system, they foolishly democratically vote for their continuing Socialism... Thinking they're capitalists in a "Social Democracy", but are a model of guinea pigs for the oligarchical Globalist agenda. I'm not going to contribute to their delusions... "Globalism" is passive-aggressive Communism.
@@drewkavi6327 ... I understand why you are saying that, but I assure you, the aggregate of Capitalism and Socialism is Communism. The enormous taxes levied on the Sweeds for example is just a renaming the Socialistic program. The Sweeds are a model for the Passive-aggressive Communism taking over the world... It's called Globalism. Please, don't listen to anyone... Learn what they all are (Capitalism, Socialism, Communism, Republic, and Democracy.) Don't take my word for it, your teachers word, or the video.. Learn for yourself and you will see I am telling you the truth. They want you to listen to them... I want you to discern and decide on your own by learning for yourself... I have every confidence and believe in you to come to the right educated decision. That should tell you something.
@@cax1175 ... No, they are not the example to follow, but are the myrmidons whom blindly follow their Socialism and globalism. You don't understand what Socialism is if you want it Socialism is dependence on government handouts. The government controls all the money and resources produced by the people... The government determines who gets what, if anything at all. In the history of your government, have they been honest good stewards of the money, or wasteful, corrupt, power hungry fat cats? You don't want Socialism, and you definitely don't want "The New Communism" called Globalism.
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King Henry Wow Abraham Lincoln was so ahead of his time.
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@@bagel3707 yes! 😂
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"stop using my quotes to win internet arguments"
- all philosophers
Safar Cinema those are not only internet arguments mate
@@lemon420 don't call him mate, bro
sometimes quotes can make jokes and give good analogies
but yes sometimes people do it too much
@@loganzellman7030 dont call him bro, guy
“No” - Abraham Lincoln
I love the idea, but the sad reality is that no government can be trusted to distribute money equally among all people.
Because capitalism is an obsolete system that is making our worlds equlity worse
But Communism in its true form actually abolishes government.
No Class
No Money
No Government
Well... BUT people cannot be trusted "to contribute what they can and take only what they need". Until people stop being people, Socialism and Communism will never happen. When the children grow up, they will see this more clearly.
It doesn’t even matter if things are distributed equally….can you imagine every time someone took a test at school and the class was graded on a curve where everyone got the same score? What’s the point in trying?
@@FIyingDumpling BINGO! That's a great analogy! You hit the nail on the head in ONE SENTENCE! Bravo!
"Why 90% of comments section is in qoute form?"
-Me
"Because you look smart"
-Random person of the interwebs
"Things written in quotes look more serious" -Abraham Lincon
“If you treat her like a celebrity, she’ll treat you like a fan”
-Gandhi
"lol"
-Chandan
"I'm not sure."
- my friend's brother
"I wished to live in the same era as Cardi B"
- Karl Marx
Karl Marx NOOOOO
@@sooryan_1018 😂😂😂
@Akash Jacob i did not see that coming😂😂😂
@Akash Jacob SAD
@Akash Jacob WAP aint that bad..
"I said certified freak, seven days a week..."
- Joseph Stalin
@Looter Shooter lemon flag?
@@sooryan_1018 yes ofc because lemons are the modern day epitome of evil lmfao
Uncle joe was a savage
@@personifiedtoast4869 every villain is lemons
I can't. I am laughing so hard and my grandma doesn't understand. 🤣🤣
I love how people use the term "equal" to represent forced total equality, then use it to describe Communism, when the most famous Communism quote is "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs", a sentence that literally says "no it's not equal"
Besides massive government corruption at all levels the USSR had difficulty with production. To each according to his ability resulted in a less productive society. Always the end result of Socialism.
@@ventureoutwest The problems of the USSR had to do with its competition with the United States. Their influence globally was drastically smaller than that of the US and was not founded on exploitation, so they simply couldn't compete. But they weren't left much choice as the US saw the success of the anti-bourgeoisie principle as an existential threat to its own credibility, hence needed to make the USSR fail by any means necessary.
Ignoring the embargo's, propaganda and other aggressive anti-communist campaigns of the US, the USSR had to juggle its resources in both military and public welfare, all while rebuilding its economy from the globally unprecedented devastation WW2 had caused due to being the main theater of war unlike the rather uninvolved US. To do this most of its income had to come from the state capitalism, which created a dependency on the very system and corruption it paradoxically sought to abolish. It was the confounding public discontent after Afghanistan sunk it into an economic depression that the USSR collapsed.
So ironically(not really), the downfall of the USSR had to do with its capitalist remnants that the US ensured to stay in place. It was not socialism, but the lack thereof that condemned it to economic collapse. In fact in every area were the USSR was socialized, which is to say public facilities(transport, healthcare, education), housing and essential needs, it was far superior to the United States.
I love when people start a comment with "I love ..."
@@FernandoVazquez-ro1nw I love you too ❤
@@onionrangerduck7024 I love you too
"I'm a barbie girl in the barbie world"
- Abraham Lincoln -
😂
Lol
Life in plastic, it's fantastic.
When the joke is funny but the delivery is stupid
I want to like this but it's already at the perfect number..
How can someone dislike this video? He is just examining these concepts. How can you hate calling a rock, a rock?
Maybe it’s the naïveté. Maybe it’s the childish music in the background. Communism will never exist just like the Easter Bunny will never exist. Despots will always rise.
People are scared of both of these words.
chinese did
The Left who gets 'offended' by these facts and wish they can have their socialists utopia.
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“Dark humor is like food, not everyone gets it.”
Stalin
Lol
You mom is like Soviet union , every man gets his share
@@drunkenmmamaster419 Plot twist they ran out of food in *two days*
Now ,lets learn history.
@@drunkenmmamaster419 mom is a complex social concept that can be even harder to understand than the concept of god People don't get the concepts, too stupid for that.
Stalinism as an ideology doesn't properly exist; in fact Stalin himself was not a "Stalinist," but a Marxist-Leninist. Stalinism simply refers to the policies enacted by Stalin, but he wasn't following his own separate ideology when forming or enacting those policies, he was simply following Marxist-Leninist thought
Socialism in one country was his ideology
Debatable, Stalin's specific plans for modernising the USSR could be called Stalinism, although it's very silly for anyone who isn't living in 20th century Russia to claim to be a 'Stalinist'
Can you please point out where Marx prescribed dictatorship? If you can't, then you can't call Stalin a "marxist" - spoileralert: You can't.
Two giant propaganda-machines have upheld the notion that the USSR was a communistic endeavour: The sovjets - in order to gain legitimacy within, and the US - to scare the world. Neither of them were right.
@@benjaminwilliams2264 it's Lenin idea
"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken"
- colonel sanders
Mm I want chicken
🤣
Colonel Sanders - Bernie's predecessor.
"Socialism is when the government does stuff." - Marl Carx
also when no iphone
@@shush__plz5172 what you mean?
What? 🤣
i hate this quote, because its only if the government does it for the well-being of the Working Class
@@hopseshopsidis its a joke
"I ain't never seen two pretty best friends at least one of them gotta be ugly"
- Donald Trump
“You can’t go into a 711 without hearing a guy with an Indian accent” -Biden
You tell me which is worse
"Two men say they're Jesus,
one of them MUST be wrong"......
Industrial Disease
M Knoffler
@@Tom-js3iz Trumps isn't sexist, he could be talking about males or females or a combination.
@@Tom-js3iz it’s a joke that’s going around, chill lol
I mean he aint wrong. Some girls intentionally hang around ugly girls to make themselves look better
I disagree with the fact that the greed of the government is the sole reason we’ve never seen a true communist government, revolutionaries who were assassinated and the one I’m thinking of is Thomas sankara may have been able to get to that point
Thomas was assassinated by the government (CIAl
There's also Leon Trotsky, who was said to be assassinated by the Soviets during his exile.
Communism will never be achieved because it relies too much on the conformity of people. Same reason why true capitalism has never been achieved. People are greedy.
@@hihello8771his assassination was orchestrated by the Ivory Coast and France not the cia
@@hihello8771so the Westerners stopped communism from working?
“The goal of socialism is communism” Vladimir Lenin
ejsvifq mabmip,
Never mind what you think I sounds like how about answering the perfectly valid questions I asked you about your previous comment:-
Are you saying that the Russian, Chinese, Cuban, revolutions were not at the time they happened justifiable results of corrupt autocratic rule by those in charge of the countries concerned? And what has AIDS got to do with the raise of Communism? We can blame Communism or capitalism for a lot of things but aids?
Kim Jung Un 😂😂😂😂😂
It changed very long ago. I leaded a party which was against communism and called himself a Socialist, in 1969 similar to Bernie Sanders!
Kim Jung Un Vladimir Putin is not a socialism tirade or believe in communism he went to the American system of democracy what does that tell you you moron
Kim Jung Un give nobody private ownership of property or businesses which leaves THE GOVERNMENT TO COME AND THAT YO $HIT! NO THANKS! NOTICE HOW THEY DON'T EXPLAIN A TAX SYSTEM OR NOTHING?
IT'S A PURE SCAM! THE SOCIALISM GIVES MORE POWER TO THE GOVERNMENT. THE COMMUNISM TAKES POWER AWAY FROM THE POWERFUL BILLION DOLLAR COMPANIES IN CORPORATIONS.
THEN THE GOVERNMENT SWOOPS IN AND TAKES IT. CORPORATIONS AND RICH COMPANIES ARE BAD BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO BE RULED BY A GOVERNMENT THEY ARE HORRIBLE.
THESE CORPORATIONS DON'T OWN YOU, WHEN GOVERNMENTS TAKE OVER THEY OWN YOU.
IN AMERICA IT'S PRETTY BAD FOR THE POOR AND LOWER CLASSES, BUT THE GOVERNMENT CAN'T JUST COME AND TAKE EVERYTHING YOU WANT UNLESS YOU BORROWED MONEY AND DIDN'T PAY BACK.
A CAPITALIST DEMOCRACY + SOCIALISM, AND A PROPERLY FUNCTIONING REPUBLIC, WITH NO CORRUPTION IS THE ULTIMATE SYSTEM.
**enters comment section**
**Grabs bucket of popcorn**
i agree, these comment wars are gold.
You gonna share the popcorn?
@@trevorvallo5841 no I'm not some filthy commie. I might for the right price...
Ain't it fun?
Yep
Anyone who spends one day in government knows you don't want centralized government controlling the means of production.
"Never Gonna Give you Up"
- Rick Astley
"Best one" - Me
@@blueskybluesky4014yes
funny
Jesus is the Son of G-d. He died on a cross and rose from the dead on the third day. He is sitting at the right hand of G-d.
“Who let the dogs out?”
-Karl Marx
Who?who?who?who?who?
Lol!
no worries, the chinese knows what to do
wait ? Kangurou ?
The Bourgeoisie.
“Only take what they need”. You ever met a human before? It’s not happening.
That's the problem with Marxism, it does not consider any selfishness in the "working class".
Also "work as much and contribute as much as they can".
He isn't advocating for or against either one of these he is just describing the definition of both
P B that’s why communism specifically takes away currency to further incentives through necessity, passion, ambition, etc.
@@dontfrybaconnaked yeah. Maybe he never met a lazy person before who doesnt want to work and only wants to eat and sleep.
Everything government touches, it destroys.
Yep
BS
If you take away the government, you are still left with the same destructive people.
So do capitalists (workers, economies, environment, etc.)
What Do You Call A Communist Sniper?
A Marx-Man
Get out.
Yo so corny.
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I appreciate this
Go to gulag western spy
"The goal of all Socialism is Communism."
~Vladimir Lenin
Not a real quote
BeeTee Inc no it is real. I said it myself
@@lukeskywalker1557 Ah really? Whats the source?
BeeTee Inc marxism
Well technically WE said it so the quote is OURS (including Lenin)
"Socialism is when the government does stuff. And the more stuff it does, the more socialist it is. And if it does a real lot of stuff, it's communism."
-Vladimir Lenin or something
I"m so weak! LOL
So a non-socialist country wouldn't have a government then?
@@istvanglock7445 whooosh
no government in communism, bad joke
@@kirill3032 it's a quote from richard wolff quote. He was making a parody of right wing arguments. The joke isn't bad you just don't get it.
This guy said, "corruption is rampant in countries like the former USSR, Venezuela, Vietnam and North Korea" (3:20). Does this guy not know that corruption in capitalist societies like the US, UK, etc., is not only ubiquitous but is also higher (in currency terms) than those countries he named? What's more, the level of corruption in the capitalist societies is often downplayed, concealing the true (higher) level of corruption in a country. For example, many US politicians, even tens of millions of Americans would not consider AIPAC lobbying US politicians for influence in Palestine Proper, to be corruption. Corruption in these capitalist societies is so widespread it's legalized (Citizens United).
Move to Venezuela then my guy 😂😂😂😂
Me: brings a pack of chips
Classmates: *Plays USSR anthem*
Well, sharing is caring as I always say...
Hahahhaha
Ussr athem equal funny hahah😐😐😐
And you will also get supplies from your classmates too...
So students in the classroom shares what they have with other classmates and so the whole classroom will never be short of anything and live equally, satisfactorily. That's the power of cummunism/socialism.
You want poor students to watch rich students eating potato chips??? Then, it's called Bloody capitalism.
@@mythoclast142 ik, totally not an overused meme format
"Which countries have been labeled communist? And how do they actually live up to their reputations? Find out in this video to the right."
*War in Afghanistan: 17 years later | NowThisWorld*
In all fairness, before the Taliban kerfuffle, Afghanistan was a "communist" country at one point.
For me too
@@VV_PaVria They were not true communism though. No communist country has correctly applied the Utopian and impossible goal of communism.
Lol I'm literally reading the comments trying to solve this puzzle haha
VieViaPaVria
They weren’t communist. It was never established. The people rebelled and won.
The problem with Socialism and Communism is in their core ideas. Main and most important rule of both ideas is "Dictatorship of proletariat" which means no other ideas, political parties are allowed in state where Socialism and Communism rule.
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
“Dictatorship of the proletariat” because dictatorship under the bourgeois is beyond awful, i’ve seen this argument before, i think its important to point out every political part that isn’t a people’s party serves to establish or maintain capitalism so its important for the dictatorship of the proletariat to have one representative party
All of the answer,you've got a very correct and brilliant answer!you are correct,dictatorship of proletariat,not only proletariat''it's also communism and socialism,is a single communist party system DICTATORSHIP...
@@lcdream4213Dictatorship actually recreates a set of social hierarchies which Marxism originally aimed at destroying. You can't want a classless society but wanting a class of it to rule everything.
Dictatorship of the proletariat means that the state is controlled by the working class instead of a capitalist oligarchy.
True communism only exist in the family, where others come first. A country is just a lot of people to support such a noble concept.
not in all families
Families are not Communist, if they have Parents who support their children and bring them up to be strong ambitious Individuals who strive for Achievement.
What you were describing is a bunch of people living under the same roof, like a crack house.
Oh wait, you are right about Communism ! 😆
@David Anewman
Exactly, only those who don't love their families, would choose Communism.
@David Anewman
This is America.
I'm Cuban American, escaped Castro in 1961. Learn not only English, but to love this Country with all of my heart. Graduated with Honors, served 10 years in the Military. Retired with 30 years as a Law Enforcement Officer.
Got my Teaching Degree while working with the Patrol. Everyone can make it in this Country. If they want to...
"I don't pity the poor, nor envy the rich. I live my own life".
🙂
@David Anewman Only the Socialists. Then they started building rafts.
“you either die a hero or you die of hunger”
- stalin
Lmao this is when you get sent to the gulag
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“I’m not a Marxist.”
-Karl Marx
Brandon he said that because he didn't agree with the Frankfurt school of thought that espoused cultural marxism and personally called himself a scientific socialist, not a marxist. You my friend are deliberately miss quoting him to further your agenda.
+A Revolutionary Fox Forgive me, I did not mean to imply that. I just think it’s funny that he said that at all.
Brandon oh sorry, nah it's fine. I thought you were a right wing shill trying to straw man marxism.
A Revolutionary Fox : As a communist I also think we should abandon the terms "marxist" or "marxian". To me, Marx was as useful to the communist movement as Gracchus Babeuf or Peter Kropotkin... And it makes us look like a sect^^
A Revolutionary Fox lmao the Frankfurt school didn't even exist in Marx's time. In 1880 Marx was assisting French socialists in writing the program for the Worker's party of France. Marx did help the party in writing the program but had some serious disagreements with them. Marx had issues with demanding better work conditions and wages from the bourgeoisie. This is where the quote comes into proper context. Marx wanted to destroy the idea that if demanding such reforms from the capitalists is believed to be mainstream Marxism, then he is not a Marxist.
"Cultural Marxism" academically speaking, is defined by 3 groups of neo-marxist theorists (labelled The Frankfurt School's 'Cultural Marxism', The Birmingham School's 'British Cultural Marxism', and E.P. Thompson's 'Thompsonian Cultural Marxism') - all of whom critiqued aspects of "mass culture". The Frankfurt School started it all by describing The Culture Industry. Adorno writes things like this in his critique of The Culture Industry: "The dependence of the most powerful broadcasting company on the electrical industry, or of the motion picture industry on the banks, is characteristic of the whole sphere, whose individual branches are themselves economically interwoven." They were the first thinkers to realize there was a 'corporate media' which pushed it's own corporate values and agenda. Adorno says things like: "The Culture Industry not so much adapts to the reactions of its customers as it counterfeits them." The Frankfurt School didn't like pop-culture at all, the Culture Industry Wikipedia page says "Adorno and Horkheimer especially perceived mass-produced culture as dangerous to the more technically and intellectually difficult high arts" - so they believed pop-culture was a risk to Western Civilization. The Birmingham School came after The Frankfurt School and quite liked British Working Class culture. The founders of The Birmingham School were WW2 vets, and their complaints focused on the 'cultural drift' away from the strong, local, community based cultures which they loved, and towards a more bland globalized culture (a process they called "massification"). Other theorists such as Max Horkheimer (of The Frankfurt School) rallied against the application of science without morality. He called this "instrumental reason" and took the Kantian moral position that reason without morality could cause nightmares (such as the application of science during the Holocaust). The Frankfurt School were big against the Holocaust, and contributed to the Nuremberg Trial - which later led to the creation of modern medical ethics boards. This has all somehow been misconstrued as their attack on Western Civilization - even though The Frankfurt School were specifically trying to protect the arts from pop-culture. Later Frankfurt School theorists such as Jurgen Habermas, and Nancy Fraser have specifically critiqued things like Post-Modern relativism and even Identity Politics. The term "Cultural Marxism" has since become a right wing misrepresentation of the (left wing) Frankfurt School. It's now tied into the theory they were "International Jewish Communists" trying to "Destroy American Academia and Hollywood". You can judge whether that's true for yourself.
Communism is the higher stage of Socialism which means a non-capitalist society. A capitalist market-economy with social welfare programmes, social security etc. is called Social-Democracy or Social-Liberalism.
Corruption is the source of the whole world's problems. It doesn't matter what the system is if someone exploits it for their own betterment at the expense of another. Equality in all interactions is the ideal everyone need to aim for.
I'd say selfishness is the true evil. :(
I would say that selflessness is the root of all evil. All Authoritarian regimes on the left or the right advocated the repression of the "self" for the greater good of the collective. Sacrifice yourself for others. Let ants be our model. 🤔😎
The success of socialism is still worst than the mistakes of capitalism
Equality is the goal of most human beings. Your above statement regarding corruption is the reason why complete equality is never obtained.
@@ventureoutwest Then there is equity to consider.
Also, by definition, there has never been a country that practiced "true" free market capitalism. The state has always had its fingers in the pie and bad actors have always used the state to secure unfair advantages in the market place.
Yup. Liberty if always the first to fall
I would say that there has never been a country where the state has not been influenced and even owned by the financial system and big corporations. The free market that most so called libertarians advocate for is already a reality and that's is why we live in a economical Darwinist jungle where who has the most money can do whatever they want.
Somalia is free market capitalism
ultimately society needs some form of coercion to function. The difference between socialism in all its forms & capitalism is that in the latter you may voice your opinon without fear of assasination, poisoning or imprisonment, as in Putin's Russia
@@guyvert49 - you have authoritarianism mixed up with socialism. Putin's Russia is an authoritarian, capitalist oligarchy.
“Will the real slim shady please stand up”
-Karl Marx-
This is the most complete and efficient video I have watched so far to distinguish/define socialism and communism
“A State divided into a small number of rich and a large number of poor will always develop a government manipulated by the rich to protect the amenities represented by their property.” - Harold Laski
There is a Natural law, popularly known as the 80/20 principle. It's a natural law because till now it has always manifested itself in all fields of Reality. And one of the fields is Economics. The minority of the population will always hold the Majority of wealth and the Majority will always own the minority of wealth. Carl Marx observed this in all Capitalistic economies and created a system he thought would avoid this major flaw. And Marxism did just that. No longer did the 20%(or less) own 80% of wealth. Now, only 1% owned almost everything.
In short, a state will always be divided into a small number of rich and a large number of poor. Why? It's a natural law. How? I don't know.
@@rajatsinghbhandari9549 How? The possible answer is that the human intelligence varies and the range of this variation is quite large.
Also there are different types of intelligence. Not all of them are equally effective to pruduce goods and services. For example a man with higher interpersonal intelligence is good at understanding and interacting with people. So he has a better potential to create an industry than a man with higher philosopical intelligence.
Now it will be very stupid and unjust to forcefully bring them at a similar economic class. The person who can produce more for the society will earn more that's the right thing to do.
And many brilliant person will remain poor just because their intelligence is not able to generate that much for others.
And wealth is nothing but cumulative income of multiple generations. Wealth didn’t come from sky.
One valid arguement is that why people should inherit the total property of their parents. Its true that incompetent people get lucky this way without having any real ability. This is the thing i don’t understand. Should a person have wealth which he could not earn otherwise?
@@Lonestar10443 Yeah, I agree that inequalities are natural and equality is impossible and that explains why the 80/20 rule applies to Humans. But that doesn't explain why it works elsewhere, like space or nature.
And why inheritance?
Because most parents love their children and want them to live an easy life and money helps with that.
Communism works that way
@i get it what decision? And the tyranny starts when government takes the wealth of your ancestors from you and give it to the people who never earned it at the first place. I will never work hard in a socialist country so that the gov can take my money from my children and others get benefited with it.
"There are two kinds of equality. The equality that levels and destroys, and the equality that elevates and creates."
-- Benjamin Disraeli
"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"
- George Orwell
@@msosa9735 Actually if you research the Incan Empire and its M'ita labour system you'll see that this proto-socialist system was ever-expanding and created fantastically efficient transportation and agricultural systems. The problem with it though was that it required the empire to continually expand, but I guess you could say that about GDPs today.
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🌟༻🅹🅰🆈🅵🅰༺ ✓ • 5 years ago marx was an egalitarian. he called egalitarian hunter-gatherer societies a type of primitive communism because everyone worked together.
@@ammosophobia ah yes those word Im bout to say at Hitler
"I am somewhat an expert in economics and have a very strong opinion"
-this comment section
Agree.
what moron is an expert in economics and thinks communism is a good idea
@@joebidenisapedophile moron identified^^ oh, the irony
Milith Dheerasekara um no i dont think communism is a good idea
@@milithdheerasekara6957 he's literally right
1:43 “in socialism, a democratic state cont-“
Stop
Zoom right there
“democratic”
*turns to every communist dictator after Stalin*
“Did you even read the manifesto?”
*Dictators stare into the void*
Well they were elected, but not by the people but by the main party and some block parties.
The problem was: These poeple basically controlled the party that elected them.
So once again, humanity destroyed what could've been a great thing
When the host looks like Tsar Nicolas II .....
loloololol you're right he does kinda look like him lmao
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Tsarism > Socialism > Communism
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bruh you're right
“I don’t cook, I don’t clean”
- Karl Marx
I don’t get this
Vladimir putin:
he didnt work either
He was a parasite which mutated into a virus called Communism Varients being Bolshevik Party, CCP, CPMI etc...
you forgot the part where he say he don't work
@@souravchakraborty8861 you know what they say , every political side has it own origin , and the origin of communism is a trash can
I think no matter what system you implement it does not really matter, someone will always disagree and given time one or many will find a way to destroy it
Lol good point
I also think that there are times where one system works better than the others. I think in time of war socialism works better.
I do not agree, according to Marx himself that systems fails because of the contradictions that creates (historical materialism) , so if we had a system that doesn't create contradictions (communism) it would not fail, but socialism does tho because it has classes still.
That, and people are flawed and corrupt and power hungry and evil. So no system created by man will ever work.
Thus, the smaller system the better
@@liberalizzzm4908 Principally because Socialism is really a precursor to Communism.
Socialism is fair division not necessarily equal....communal goal is classless society..
"he a runner he a trackstar"
-lenin, probably
Jesus is the Son of G-d. He died on a cross and rose from the dead on the third day. He is sitting at the right hand of G-d.
"Socialism is when the government does stuff, communism is when government does more and more stuff" - Karl Marx
@renhyuckwrld They are both bad, "The goal of socialism is communism" - Lenin
@@philipvaray6520 how are they both bad?
@@mochees if they're not bad then name one country which developed well after communists started ruling it.
@@philipvaray6520 lol lenin is a single theorist and plenty of marxists disagree with lenin.
@@antrikshdixit8568 also, you do realize that's a terrible argument given how relatively few socialist/communist countries there's been right? socialism has only been around for about a century.
all the major socialist (no country has actually been communist) countries have also only been one ideology - Marxism-Leninism (or Marxism-Leninism-Maoism)
“You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take”
-Wayne Gretzky
-Michael Scott
thats what she said .
*"There is always some thing to envy. a smile, the friendship, something you don't have to appropriate. There will always be rich and poor."* - Enemy at the Gates Like narcissism, communism is a by product of envy
saying that wanting equality is being envious is extremely shallow. Capitalism wants to sell the idea that anybody can be crazy rich if they work hard enough, but these are all fairy tales. To climb the social ladder is nearly impossible for many and most of the time is based on luck. of course elon musk had it easier, his father was rich ti begin with, so his son could study and invest on the empire he has today. but what if he was born in a poor village of Ethiopia? we would have never heard of him. or what if he worked in a sweatshop? do you think that "with enough hard work" he would be where he is today? Plus it is very simplistic to think that poor people are poor because they put themselves in that situation, that is just not true. "work harder and maybe you will have it better" do you think that those kids digging for gold and silicon 14h a day for maybe 2 dollars a day is not working hard? and the ceo who is making them work is probably working harder, right? I am not a communist, but statements like yours fuel me with anger, ignorance is rampant
@@lssmellytoes209 a billion people have been lifted out of extreme poverty since the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Shouldn’t our economy serve humanity rather than the other way around?
Just sayin
Well u gotta serve to get served back
Yes, comrade, it should
@@thegod2291 username checks out.
@deadshot So
Samething.
I played his on my friends phone, it’s not his phone anymore, it’s our phone.
Hehehe.
Devote your life to susej read susej backwards
"an inspirational quote said by a famous historical figure"
- me
"one inspirational quote spoke by a famous historical figure"
-omar salem
Well said
Tear in my eyes
ok Omar, I felt ENLIGHTED!
@@nemoh1649 me too😜💪😂
3:21-3:33 It’s just everyone trying to hold each other back…
That’s why anarchy might be the only solution because people want to abuse their power and freedoms.
“We are living in a material world; and I’m a material girl” -Santa
I’m a Barbie girl, in a Barbie world.
-Santa’s helper
everything control Big Brother in Israel and USA
Jesus is the Son of G-d. He died on a cross and rose from the dead on the third day. He is sitting at the right hand of G-d.
“Everyone takes just what they need.”
Oh ok. That’s realistic and definitely held up well during the pandemic of 2020 when people were fighting each other in store aisles trying to stock up on toilet paper and ground meat.
i have a feeling marx explained that somewhere in his 1000 page book
Quite the visionary.
Well, probably that's the proof that communism would have fit better to the situation
Not sure if you’re saying that’s what they would use as proof, or if you believe that’s proof and you believe that communism would have helped us.
@@Betweentheraindrops8 I think that communism would have dealt with the situation in a different way, eventually better
"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why they are poor, they call me a communist." - Archbishop Hélder
If only I understood whatever this meant
@@thegoofiekilla it is a reference to the terme ideology defined by Marx. It means that the poor want to survive, but due to ideology they refuse to understand the cause of their suffering: capitalist exploitation. (see marx for the definition of capitalist exploitation and the surplus theory)
@@MsMattmatt24 THIS. So many people say things that are about dismantling capitalism or have communist ideals, but when you say 'communism' they freeze. My mum and her generation and the generation before had widespread communist beliefs in Thailand but when I said her favourite band was communist she looked shocked and didn't understand.
@@fairy5668 true. I think that if people would know what communism is really about, the vast majority would agree with that school of thoughts.
Because at the end of the day, it is about freedom, justice and fraternity.
@@MsMattmatt24 Freedom and fraternity? Hardly. Communism enslaves people through the subjugation and ownership of their labor. The only groups of people who stand to benefit from communism are the ultra poor, the lazy, and current communists. Everyone else stands to gain nothing and lose everything.
Communism is akin to slavery in pre-Civil War America, but expanded to include everyone.
Don't understand why it's so many dislikes, Dude is just comparing Ideologies lmfao
Actually he is not comparing…….he is actually lying through his teeth. This is what Socialists do…..lie, deceive and kill by the millions. Sweden is an “Open Market Economy.” That was lie number one…..need I go on?
@GiaHuy Nguyen Van there’s no hope trying to convince people that are brainwashed by century long propaganda about communism
@GiaHuy Nguyen Van no
@GiaHuy Nguyen Van The other guy my friend is the most stereotypical conservative capitalist American ever.
@@AlexGuzman-ff1ud To be fair I watched this video with an open mind and capitalism still sounds like the best option. Giving that much power to the government through socialism and communism is never good. Look at how corrupt they already are. Giving them more authority wouldn't help anyone.
And when they describe communism in the video they say "people work together to be happy, healthy and free and only take what they need". In a utopian world where people actually act like this and the Dictator wouldn't abuse his powers, sure I would support communism. But in reality people are greedy, they will always take more and work less and the dictator will abuse his powers.
1:12 Thatvis the mistake in all socialist views. Rhe owner makes more BECAUSE he risks more AND paid more in the first place (to build up the company one needs assets, land and a building for ex.) As a worler i can simply change my job when a company goes bankrupt while the owner looses most of what he has.
"Takes only what they need" right - which is why Golden Corral exists
Gobble Corral made me the GREAT man I am today.
what if one needs everything?...my precious...
Lol 😂
Golden corrals doesnt exist in socialist countries only the U S A
I think imma go make a completely over the top scooby doo type sandwich just cuz i can
I need more than the next guy. So either get out my way, or fight me for it
“He need some milk”
-George Washington
"USSR!"
-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
Wait, this is true but the soviets is communist so what?
@@martin_xv dude, do not ever doubt the red baron
@@martin_xv this is where the stalinism and marxism mixes up... because in terms of marxism ussr was still in the middle step of socialism (for more than 50 years) while in terms of stalinism and stalin ideas, he was already pretty happy with the ussr so there was no reason for him to abdicate the power
@@martin_xv they are not communist they are socialists
"I don't eat peanuts."
-Karl Marx
I didnt get it
Charolastra Could it be a joke about Ad hominem?
@@cambridge5770 It's a statement about how neither Marx not Engles practiced what they preached.
Nissan GTR better than M3
@@MaskHysteria I thought it was about him getting the peanut shells stuck in his beard. Thank you for explaining this.
"Everyone wants to be a philosopher but only few can be truly philosophical..."
-philosopher
Philosophy left the chat
@@Shivamg415 …and logged out, then deleted the account and destroyed the linked devices
Yes
"GG EZ"
-Karl Marx
Karl Marx was a revolutionary thinker whose ideas reshaped the landscape of political and economic thought, sparking movements that continue to influence global discourse. Born into a middle-class Jewish family, Marx's intellectual journey took him from the philosophical circles of the Young Hegelians to the forefront of radical journalism and eventually to the formulation of his groundbreaking theories on capitalism and class struggle.
Marx's collaboration with Friedrich Engels produced the "Communist Manifesto," a clarion call for the working class that succinctly captured the exploitative dynamics of capitalism. This work, along with his magnum opus Das Kapital, laid the foundation for Marxism, a doctrine that not only critiqued capitalism but also envisioned its overthrow through proletarian revolution.
What sets Marx apart is his materialist conception of history, which argued that economic structures fundamentally shape societal institutions, politics, and culture. His theory of surplus value exposed the inherent exploitation within capitalist economies, where the labor of the many enriches the few. This critique resonated deeply with the working class and intellectuals alike, inspiring socialist and communist movements that sought to realize Marx's vision of a classless society.
However, Marx's legacy is complex. While his analysis of capitalism's flaws remains incisive, the implementation of Marxist ideas in the 20th century, particularly in the Soviet Union and Maoist China, led to regimes that were often authoritarian and oppressive. These outcomes have led to vigorous debates about the applicability and interpretation of Marx's ideas.
Marx's enduring influence lies in his ability to articulate the deep-seated inequities of capitalism and to envision a radically different world. Whether celebrated as a prophet of the working class or critiqued as an ideologue whose ideas were misused, Marx remains one of the most significant and contentious figures in modern history. His work continues to provoke thought and inspire movements, making him a towering figure whose ideas cannot be ignored, even in the 21st century.
"Everyone works towards the same collective goal... does what they can to contribute and only takes what they need in return"
*BAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHA*
Do You take all those free plastic spoons in every cafeteria You enter? This video is wrong about that communism starts as soon as state gott all the control. Nope. It starts as soon as wealth in same abundance as those spoons. "Communism = Socialism + Electrification of whole country" (c) Lenin (Yep, they believed that once elictricity will be everywhere, wealth will be in abundance...)
@@slicemf5347 Why are you using spoons as your analogy? For your one example with spoons I can counter with hundreds of examples where people take more than they need if it is free, such as houses, food, clothing, water, wood, oil, etc. Also, there will never be abundance, the best we can do is let a free market allocate resources most efficiently.
@@amarmesic7170 I mean its probably because those things mean more to a capitalist society. More houses and all seems like more wealth, which leads to higher social standing and it starts to compound into more wealth over time. In a socialist society having enough IS enough and you get more from experiences, rather than materials, equally. Like how everyone could be allocated vacation with the choice of doing anything. so someone can actually afford a cruise where in a capitalist society theyd never could. Its not really possible tho Im just playing devil's advocate. edit: also im oversimplifying it.
Everything, including "experiences," costs money, or some other resource. There exists no society where all, nay, most of its members won't take more resources than they know they need. And that's not accounting for those people who really do think they need more than they actually do.
You're describing a system that doesn't eliminate greed, but instead requires greed to be eliminated before it will work.
"NOTHING BAD EVER HAPPENS TO THE KENNEDY'S"
- JFK
Oof
5 seconds later he would be shot in the head
Nek minute
Aparently, Marx himself wrote "in socialism you get paid according to your work, in communism you work according to ability and receive according to need". In the Socialist warsaw-pact countries this meant miners were paid more per hour than doctors.
For many Socialists, socialism is not just a stepping stone to Communism, but good enough by itself. Many Communists however believe that Communism won't be a feasible option until decades or centuries of Socialism have "eradicated scarcity".
Also, neither Socialism nor Communism are about the state or about abolishing private possessions. They"are about the *means of production* being owned by local democratic collectives. One of the goals of Communism is that the state "withers away".
Some people call themselves anarcho-communist or anarcho-socialist to distance themselves from hierarchical/centralist ones and from the so-called "anarcho-capitalists"
You spelled apparently wrong it's *apparently.
In communism everyone gets paid the same we all get universal basic income based off of our work.
You're wrong man communism is about the abolishing of private ownership
Several problems, not the least of which is the failure to identify the “going through” socialism to get to communism was a Leninist idea. State control of the production means, secondly, is more properly called state capitalism, not Socialism. Under that form of eco my, the state becomes the capitalist. Marx himself made no distinction between socialism and communism. As Engels noted in a preface to the Manifesto, they only chose the word “communist” because at that time those who called themselves Socialists wanted to reform the worst aspects of capitalism whereas Marx advocated its abolition.
“Women hold half of the sky”
- Mao Zedong
That means that they share it with men, and sharing is communism. I think that Mao might be a communist.
We're supposed to be posting fake quotes
"The goal of socialism is communism". Source? LENIN!!!
And who recorded him saying that?
@@tylergoudreau4865 Everyone equally
@@tylergoudreau4865 Marks sad it too XD
Wow you sound excited about that Lenin quote
@@PoradnikiPanaMietka Marx my dude
"Sheeeeesh"
-Gandi
Gandhi*
I found the information very interesting, but the music annoying. An informational video does not have to have mood music, and is usually diminished by it.
1:08 Jhonny Sinns travelling through time
True bro 😂😂😂😜
😊
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Fernando Ferra lol hilarious
This man keeps the whole world economy running!! A hero we don't deserve.
This may come as a surprise to you, but there has never been a truly free country.
Jacob Wood Jacob wood got no wood
@@nathangg8429 people have right to kill another people to survive. Because i can kill you than you can also kill me so since both of us is afraid of death we give our 'right' to kill others to the state of law so we can safe and survive this live. As long as people in society is still give up their right to the law of society there are no free society and because the societies is not free society therefore there are no free country. US is not the close to what free country look like since the hierarchical law still chain up the society to abide it so US is just the same as another countries in this planet not more free than the others, since the different is just what law should enacted and dont, it not make one country more free tha others because that country is still have that law that individual give their right for it.
what do you even mean by "Free country" ? As long as there is law & order its not free. there has never been and there will never be.
@@nathangg8429 that is a lie, one of the most free countries in the world in probably new Zealand
@@nathangg8429 new Zealand is also ranked 3rd in the world for economic freedom
"This comment isn't any more profound for being in quotes."
There will never be a full scale communist country. Because society is full of people who would rather not work but only receive instead (myself included). I need external stimuli to get me to work - either government mandate (socialism) or a system where I receive goods only when I contribute (capitalism). I will also go out and say that all attempts at pure socialism or pure capitalism will fail miserably. It has to be some mix of the two. (Even the US is somewhat socialist given that the government collects taxes for upkeep of many services). The Scandinavian model of capitalistic socialism is the best. Provides the poorest people woth enough cushioning to keep them afloat but not enough to afford them great comforts without working for it.
Congrats,you found a comment which is not a quote.
🥳🥳🥳
"Look. If you had one shot or one opportunity to seize everything you ever wanted in one moment, would you capture it, or let it slip."
-Stalin to Trotsky 1922.
Snap back to the capital
Oops there goes the bourgeoisie
Whoops here's democracy
(Loses election)
Nope, no democracy
Yea Communist/Socialist Governments own everything... citizens are just slaves of the Government.
"I love Communism!"
- Vladimir Palpatine
Very simple, a Socialist is a Communist who is a better liar.
I'm waiting for Joseph Stalin comment , he use to comment on all your video when you were seeker
i'll hopp into his role as the swiss stalin
"Stalin approves"
-*Stalin not too powerful*
The USSR: Democratic or Totalitarian?
-*Purges and Repression*
The Purges and Repressions in the USSR
-*Trotsky being the true replacement*
TheFinnishBolshevik- Lenin's "Testament" Debunked
-*Hiding food (Kulaks)*
Argument ad Venezuelum
-*Again hiding food, but in the USSR*
Gorbachev Created the Artificial Shortage of Food
-*More foot shortage*
Food Shortages and Problems in the USSR
*BUT*
Universal Healthcare is not socialism, or not even a bit.
And Soviet means a workers council.
Trotsky has nothing really in common with Marxism.
Trotsky was undemocratic and didn't understand the system of "Dictatorship of the Proletariat"
Ur momgeyyd
In Soviet Union Russia .. [insert joke]
my days are long gone
“Quotes are stupid”
- Albert Einstein
3:00 and North Korea is called the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea... so what?
Yeah that doesn’t make them communist, they were a state with money and class.
yeah adding a "democratic" onto its title doesn't make it a democratic country
The way I was taught, Marx's writings were theory, he knew the inherit actions of man would never let it come to reality. Summed up by ,"power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely". Short version.
“Chocolate ice cream is the worst ice cream flavour.”
-Karl Marx
@immy why I left the left
Ur name.....adam tho
Send him to Gulag
That sounds more like a Joe Biden quote
You haven't even mentioned Cuba.
@@jetstream6389. I am a Cuban citizen and I do not want a capitalism without freedom like China, you have no right to speak in the name of my people. I rather live poor than without freedom.
How about China under Mao with its epic failures like the Great Leap Forward.
@@jetstream6389 Cuba is only poor because of sanctioning by the U.S. They would not need capitalism, because with open trade and tourism there would be an overflow of money in their economy.
@@leonmusic4632 well said.
@@leonmusic4632 ? China freedom?
“The internet is a series of tubes.”
- Leon Trotsky
Whats the difference? Neither has helped to advance humanity.
How would you know?
“Y’all look dumb putting everything in quotations”
-Confucius
Actually, the potrayal of heaven my religious parents and teachers taught me when I was a kid, pretty much sounds like a true communist country.
When people describe Utopia, they often don't realise they're describing a communist society that doesn't have currency
Mobey Us Trip and those are the same exact people who will say communism doesn’t work. when in reality humanity has never gave it a good shot. i personally believe its completely possible and would benefit everyone.
@@mari-eu1ph Except humans HAVE had proto-communist systems prior to European colonisation. It's just that we don't learn about it
@@fairy5668 Heaven is described as freedom of suffering. The idea Abrahamic faiths paint is that life is inherently suffering and that heaven is meant to be a sort of liberation from life as we know it. Trying to box a philosophical concept into a political agenda doesn't work as politics themselves are fuelled by suffering. Politicising heaven would defeat the purpose of it all together.
Yes, but with God at the top.
“Quotations are the opium of the comment section”
- Karl Marx
Corruption is in almost every government. An example is in the USA, where lobbyists are well-known to manipulate laws and decisions to the benefit of the few.
You can't collectively work to being "happy healthy and free" because everyone has a different perception of happiness and you'll definitely not be free when the government forces you to do their bidding.
*Dib*
Wtf are you talking about? Lol
Freedom, to Marx, is having to work fewer hours since surplus would be removed from the equation. By needing to work fewer hours, you are free to live your life to find what fulfills you and makes you happy. The point of socialism, in the Marxian sense, isn’t the government demanding what you are to do, but you demanding what you want the government to do (empowered unions and greater democracy).
yep
@@Kyle_Schaff No dumbfuk. Socialism works by the government controlling you and calling it the "'people's will". You people are beyond naive.
@@stevedoetsch Socialism is all about central planning and central planning is tyranny . Socialism is pure evil shitfest, commienizm is even worse. Soviet union showed everything about socialism/communism.
@@UniDeathRaven You seem to be completely unaware of what you're talking about lol. Socialism and communism tend to be forms of economic theory, unrelated to the level of state control. You're confusing the idea of authoritarianism with socialism and communism.
There's a political commentator and economist from Chile whom i once heard say: "Socialism is always in the future, never in the present".
Now i get what he meant.
Its kayn recersa
Социализм был в СССР. В СССР была бесплатная медицина, бесплатное образование. В СССР был самый большой процент научных людей на процент населения за все время истории человечества! Этот чилийский обозреватель - обычный капиталист.
The Nordic countries are not socialist however. They are welfare capitalist states.
No, they are Socialists in Sweden, etc... They just don't know it. They've been lied to... they are people conned and keep regurgitating that lie in stubborn ignorance, and due to a life of cowardice, and a Socialistic biased education system, they foolishly democratically vote for their continuing Socialism... Thinking they're capitalists in a "Social Democracy", but are a model of guinea pigs for the oligarchical Globalist agenda.
I'm not going to contribute to their delusions...
"Globalism" is passive-aggressive Communism.
Mark Lewis they definitely aren’t, they are what would be called social democracies which are capitalist
@@drewkavi6327 ... I understand why you are saying that, but I assure you, the aggregate of Capitalism and Socialism is Communism. The enormous taxes levied on the Sweeds for example is just a renaming the Socialistic program.
The Sweeds are a model for the Passive-aggressive Communism taking over the world... It's called Globalism.
Please, don't listen to anyone... Learn what they all are (Capitalism, Socialism, Communism, Republic, and Democracy.) Don't take my word for it, your teachers word, or the video.. Learn for yourself and you will see I am telling you the truth.
They want you to listen to them... I want you to discern and decide on your own by learning for yourself... I have every confidence and believe in you to come to the right educated decision. That should tell you something.
Then let's do what they do.
@@cax1175 ... No, they are not the example to follow, but are the myrmidons whom blindly follow their Socialism and globalism. You don't understand what Socialism is if you want it
Socialism is dependence on government handouts. The government controls all the money and resources produced by the people... The government determines who gets what, if anything at all. In the history of your government, have they been honest good stewards of the money, or wasteful, corrupt, power hungry fat cats?
You don't want Socialism, and you definitely don't want "The New Communism" called Globalism.
Ho Chi Ming actually passed away before Vietnam was able to gain full independence
"Universe is our university/school
Earth our classroom
Life our lesson
And time our teacher
We’re all classmates in this together..."
-your fellow classmate