Do 37" tires fit stock?? 2020 Ford F250 - Super Duty Build | Part 5
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Will 37" tires fit on a stock 2020 F250 Truck?
NOPE!! Well... actually they fit in the rear. They could fit in the front with enough cutting and trimming. Fitting 35" or larger tires requires aftermarket wheels or wheel spacers. With stock wheels your tires will rub on the sway bar and potentially brake lines. Not good!
Aftermarket wheels are wider and offer greater backspacing (push the tire out from the body). This helps resolve rubbing on the inside of the frame type components but increase rubbing on the bumper and fender.
With the ~4" Carli coil springs installed up front the tires clear the fender at ride height. However, they will rub when the suspension is compressed so additional trimming will be required. The Carli bump stop drop will help limit compression travel which is important for gaining additional clearance for the larger tires.
Stay tuned for upcoming video showing the process of trimming for these tires...
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I just bought the same rims and I’m having trouble with wheel weights contacting my caliper. Was wondering where they put your wheel weights and if there was any issue balancing them? Thank you in advance !
We had issues once... The shop put the weights in the center and the caliper knocked them off. Put them on the inside of the wheel or outside offset of caliper zone. Works great!
another good educating video love it
Welcome! :)
I put on 37" on my f250 2023, the trouble I have is when I turn to the right my tire hits the front of the swaybar. Any suggestions...
You need different wheel offset. We run a 17x8.5" wheel with Zero offset. This essentially pushes the tire out from the frame giving greater clearance for the larger diameter at full steering angle. Also tires that are 12.5" wide or less fit much easier. We have many videos showing our build as well if you want more ideas.
Yes. If you level the front it will. I have 37's on my F250.
Only if you drop the front bump stops... otherwise, if your suspension compresses you will be eating fender with the tire as you turn. Love your F250 color!
@@TruckCamper Thank you.
What kit did you use to level it? Ready Lift 2.5"?
Did you have your truck leveled?.. at a nearby local tire shop they said that without leveled it’ll still be able to run a 37x11.5……?
It has nothing to do with "lifting" rather... you need to "limit" the suspension compression travel. Otherwise, the tires will contact the body when the suspension fully compresses. We have many videos showing our build and parts used. You do need to increase wheel offset (push tires out) to clear the frame (we have zero offset 8.5" wheels) and bumpstop spacer (to reduce compression travel). Adding "lift" with springs is mostly for looks or function if you need the clearance off road (like how we use our truck). Hope that helps
As you probably know by now... these trucks aren't exactly know for their front axle articulation. I'm running a 2" level on the front for looks. I only have the 33" factory tires.
That's true. Looking forward to doing testing... Carli radius arms might help. However, Carli support guys claim articulation travel is the same. Will see!
did you use an oem wheel offset? that can change things too
Correct. Factory wheel offset will NOT work for 37s. Tires will rub the frame. These wheels are 17x8.5" with 0mm offset. You need to push the tires out further from the body to clear the frame with oversized tires. Wider wheels & tires will require additional offset and may require body cutting depending on diameter. Thanks for sharing!
What is the offset on those wheels? Offset and backspacing can make all the difference.
0 offset / 4.75" backspacing. 17x8.5" Method 701 wheels
Great video! Good content!
Thanks so much!
Can't get mudflaps in there though, which for me is the dealbreaker
We have rock sliders with top plates (similar to running boards) and that helps keep the side clean. Don't see many trucks with mud flaps these days
@@TruckCamper while I like the aesthetic, I think of mudflaps as more of a courtesy thing. I agree- not many pickups have them anymore and don't seem to care about all the rocks and debris they're throwing up at the vehicles behind them. It's odd that the trend has gone down while the ride height of pickups has gotten higher over time.
@@sly9263 That is a good factor to consider for sure... sadly mud flaps don't last off road. All the one's I've had get ripped off. There are some quick release versions but then storage is a challenge. For on road vehicle it's a nice addition for sure!
What is the wheel width and offset? Those dimensions matter.
My 2017 F350 Crew Cab, Short Bed Platinum has 38x15.5's on stock Platty wheels, a Ready Lift 3.5" SST, and 2" Bora spacers - no issues.
They are Method 701 Wheels - 17x8.5" - 0/4.75" (offset/spacing)
I have a 2020 F250 Lariat crew cab 4wd with a 3.5" Ready Lift kit and I have 37/13.5/R18's they rub the front stabilizer on a hard turn left or right.
Your issue is the tire width and wheel offset. 12.5" tires fit much better. I like the 17x8.5" method wheels with 0 offset (4.75" backspacing). Good combo for 37s.
That front bumper didn’t look stock?
Correct.
what gear ratio do you have? 4.30? (sorry if I missed it) I ordered almost the exact truck (different color)a few weeks back, with a similar build plan as yours. Then came across your channel. Im debating whether to go with 35"s to keep some power and up travel. 4.30s &6.2 Thanks, great videos!
We have factory 4.30 gears. It is the exact ratio of 3.73 gears with stock tires but with 37s. With 35s you'll have an overall lower ratio. I think it's an ideal truck to build. Best to your project!
I also have a 2020 XL gas burner with 17x9 fuel wheels with 0 offset...would the 37s fit with trimming and no lift? trying to figure out if I should buy 35s or 37s
Go with 35s. 37s will need trimming of fender corner and need bump stop drop to keep tires from rubbing when suspension compresses. And really need lower axle gears with 37s. Hope that helps!
Did the 35s fit stock?
So 35's should fit just fine? I have a stock 2020 f250 4wd and am contemplating bigger tires
Depending on tire width and wheel offset. Narrower tires will fit better. Factory wheel offset may cause rubbing on frame or sway bar (especially when suspension is compressed).
Any idea if a 37" tire will fit a stock Tremor w/ aftermarket wheels?
Easily fits the rear. Front you'll need to trim that plastic part of the fender... will work otherwise. It will depend on wheel width/offset too. And 12.5" wide tires will be much preferred.
Watch our other video on trimming:
ruclips.net/video/dNPvNcj9Xbs/видео.html
The 2020 was lowered some vs a 2019. Wonder if it would have fit a 2019 better?
Not really. It depends on the bumpstop location (which limits suspension compression travel). We installed coil springs which lifted the truck but the increased ability to fit larger tires was the 1" taller profile bumpstop which keeps the suspension from compressing as far.
@@TruckCamper I understand that, but I thought 2020 and up were overall lower on the frame than earlier models. I took that to mean the 2020 had less clearance than a 2019 which I have. Maybe I can find a 2020 stock PU to compare mine too.
@Step-n-Wolf 2020+ have slightly shorter coil springs. Same exact frame and other components.
@@TruckCamper if I understand correctly, the shorter spring lowers the body making more lift necessary compared to a 2019? My 2019 has a 4.30 diff and thought taller tires might help offset the mileage loss. It is my understanding that you can go up to a 295 or 305 tire on the stock 18" wheels getting some improvement vs. the 20"wheel and a taller tire. Would rather not do a lift but still able to go with bigger tires. I do know the bigger tires will have reduced mileage which may or may not full offset the larger diameter. Thanks
@Step-n-Wolf Correct. You should be fine up to 34-35" diameter keeping the stock wheels. Larger diameter will decrease hwy rpm. Larger tires are heavier and will effect mpg in town more than hwy. I don't think the cost is worth the change unless replacement tires are needed. You may gain some hwy and lose some towing and city mpg.
Always best to modify the fenders & or iner fender wells ,,,,keep everything else stock,,so lower truck back to stock equipment & move fender in about
4-5 " it looks ,,,and cut out the spots inside it rubs & maybe up 1-3" probably
2- 4 small spots,,,easy & free if you dyi stuff with a welder & or plastic welder... Happy build & Keep having fun!!!
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Yep! I've done that on different truck builds. Fully tubbed one truck. It's definitely cool. This truck needs the lift height to keep the underside from dragging off road. It is still a long wheelbase.
Depends on the wheels and offset
Somewhat yes. But it will rub radius arm and sway bar with less offset. You can get away with oversized tires somewhat if your suspension doesn't compress much. To me... proper clearance means full suspension travel and steering. I have more videos on it.
Are the 20 & 21’s the same stock height?
I heard they are but not sure I know 17-19 is factory taller!
Correct. Kind of funny... Ford "lowered" the 2020+ trucks 1". Then released the Tremor with 2" lift. Basically only 1" taller than the 2017-2019 Super Duty.
Great video and content..I have the same truck and Carli is coming out with their coil over for my 7.3 vs going with the diesel set up. Im on the fence on this truck...I always go 37 12.50 20's, but on this truck I think Ill try some 295 65 R20's on stock wheels Typically a 35.3" tall tire x 11.6-12" depending on manufacture. Looking forward to more videos..Subscribed
I don't think there is enough advantage for a true "coilover" vs keeping the spring / shock type suspension setup. The biggest bummer with coilovers is rebuilding the shocks. These "performance" shocks are good for 20-50k miles typically between rebuilds. Removing coilover shocks means your truck will be on jack stands for a week or more while waiting to have shock rebuilt. Where removing a standard shock is relatively easy and you can install your factory shock while shipping the shock for rebuild. The diesel springs ride noticeably better than the factory springs (gas truck) due to the massive drop in spring rate. I'm sure they are even more plush on diesel truck. You gain about .5-1" more height on the gas trucks vs diesel. I do think staying close to stock tire size is best if you don't want to regear the axles. Thanks for watching!
@@TruckCamper good point on the coil over shocks. thanks
I recall your reply comments on another RUclips video.....thanks! Check out 285 / 75R - 18 tires.......more sidewall than the 295 / 65R - 20...therefore, more comfortable on pavement and off-road. I have the Goodyear Wrangler DuraTrac 285 / 75R - 18 tires on an older Super Duty.......GREAT tire for both mud and snow...decent lugs with siping. The Interco TrXus tire looks great too......but it is wider than the Goodyear.....wide is good for sand, but not for snow. I need a a tall narrow tire for mud and snow instead of a tall wide tire for mud and sand......although the Interco TrXus does have good siping on the lugs. The Goodyear Wrangler DuraTrac 285 / 75R - 18 tire is 35.1 inches high and only 11.2 inches wide. I would consider 37 inch tall tire if it was 12 inches or less wide.....not available.
What part of the country are you located? No doubt you like your new 2020 Ford Super Duty with the 7.3L gas engine. Did you get the Tremor Package? What trim level and color did you purchase??? I plan to buy a 2021 or 2022 F-350 7.3L gas engine...Lariat with Ultimate, Sport and Tremor Packages...Magnetic color... with all the big options except Adaptive Steering.....and some of the small options like Upfitter Switches, 397 amp Alternator with Dual Batteries, Roof Clearance Marker Lamps, etc.
@@15Jeep I live in Diamondhead, MS...As far south as you can go just North off I-10. I have the Lariat Sport package in Iconic Silver. Uplifter switches, sunroof, adaptive steering, GPS, bed spray, sliding cover and a few other options. I ordered from Ford the tremor valance and wheel openings. My truck looks like a Tremor without the 2" front lift and running boards. I am waiting for Amp to come out with the running boards..then dual exhaust and a 5 Star tune. As to the tires I always get 37's but this truck I will stick with 35's or a taller tire than the stock 34 's on factory wheels. I am looking at a few tire options tonight cause I have a buyer for my Michelins.
Im getting (3.5') king pintop 2.5 from carli with sway bars and arms. I wanted to see if I can fit 37x13.50 on 17x8.5 wheel 5'' backspace which is +6 offset. I know 12.50 won't require trimming to fit.
I'm ok with trimming the fender liner but don't want any other rubbing issues.
You'll definitely rub! Watch this video to see how to resolve... ruclips.net/video/dNPvNcj9Xbs/видео.html
37x12.5s require minor trimming.
If you stay on road and avoid fully compressing the suspension while turning... 13.5" might work. But really you should lower the bump stop another inch to keep suspension from compressing too far.
BTW - the Carli arms do nothing for you. Although they look cool...
@@TruckCamper “BTW - the Carli arms do nothing for you. Although they look cool.....” 🤣. I was thinking the same thing, they’re not exactly cheap either.
@@NotSure7474 So true... spendy bling. :)
I'm curious to know of 325/60/r20 will fit stock height on stock rims.
I know most 35x12.5r29 fit. But they technically measure 34.5"x12.5., while a 325/60/20 measures 35.6"x12.5
Not advisable going with that wide of a tire unless wheels are at least 8" wide. Offset will be the other challenge... factory wheels have limited offset meaning much more likely to rub the frame. Proper wheels and tires are important for safety and performance.
@@TruckCamper slight rub on the frame does harm anything
@@tommycage5457 Maybe for some... bigger issue off road and having full steering
Soo what the right lift size to clear the 37s?? I have a 2020 f250 platinum 6.7 diesel my first diesel truck trying to learn more about it. Great video. In video say 3.5 inch could I get away with 2.5 this is my truck used for tow only.
2.5"-3.5" should be fine. Take a look at our video on how to fit the tires. We show where you'll need to trim. The reason the tires fit with lift is that the bump stops are lowered essentially limiting how far the tire can compress into the fenders.
Make sure the wheels you choose don't push the tires too far out. Carli Suspension makes excellent components and has answers to many questions.
Hope that helps!
@@TruckCamper Thank you so much for the information your awesome man!!
@@touvang6653 Welcome!
Did you re gear for the 37’s or are you still running the factory 4.30’s?
Running factory 4.30 gears. Perfect match for the 37s. I'd recommend it. Essentially the same overall ratio as the 3.73 gears with factory 33s.
but will stock Tremor tires fit on a stock FX4 with no lift or leveling kit?
Yes. They should. The Tremor tires actually measure 34.5-34.75". They are narrow which is the key to fitting. Shouldn't be any issue...
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why did you choose gas versus Diesel?
Many reasons. Weight 800lbs less. Cost $6-8k less. Complexity and future repair costs. Maintenance cost. Just to name a few! Plus modern gas motors are plenty powerful... more power than 90s to early 00s diesels in some cases.
Everybody and their mom has put the Carli 2.5" (3.5") kits on their 2020 F250/F350 with 37" tires with no issue. Some get a tiny bit of rub on the sway bar and radius arms and a few say they need to trim a tiny bit in wheel well area. Not sure why you are having such a hard time.
Full size crowd is all about looks and bling. Many don't care about rubbing. Fewer think about a full size spare. That stuff matters for how we use the truck!
It takes fully cycling the suspension at full steering range to ensure tire fitment. Check out out this video: ruclips.net/video/dNPvNcj9Xbs/видео.html
@@TruckCamper I don't disagree. But you were emphatic that 37" tires "Do NOT fit" when most people probably believe a tiny bit of rubbing means they do fit. They don't fit if you plan on actually doing some real off roading. From what I've heard though, the Carli torsion sway bar and radius arms both provide the needed extra room so they do fit. I don't plan on jumping my truck (haven't even received the truck yet!) or anything more than light trail off road so I think I'll be okay?
@@suburbanhobbyist2752 Thanks for clarifying. This video was to answer if they fit stock. Answer is no. Lifted yes with trimming depending on width and wheel. However, the biggest reason they fit is not only from the height increase but also lowering the bumpstops which limits how far the suspension compresses. That is the key factor! Anyhow. Hope some of our stuff can be helpful. Thanks for sharing!
@@TruckCamper Lmao, I don't know why I didn't think about it not being lifted! I apologize. I've been looking at so many lift/level combos that is where my brain is I guess. Yeah, I've never seen anyone be able to pull off 37s without at least a 2" level or something. One guy did claim to do it but I don't see how he isn't rubbing like crazy and basically only able to turn half a turn before full stop.
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is your bed the short bed?
Yes. But Ford has the longest shortbed at 6ft 9in
What tire is this?
Yokohama XAT - video we did: ruclips.net/video/yBG9yxaT3RI/видео.html
@@TruckCamper thank you are these like the toyo RT just a different brand?
@@begrateful8934 They are a very different tire. But similar design being a Hybrid style tread pattern. Made is Japan. Quality tire. We did 2 videos with more details you can watch
Nice! I wonder if 37’s would fit my new Tremor with the 7.3. The 35’s seem to have plenty of room
They will fit in the rear. Front will need slight trimming and lower bump stop. On road it may be fine without doing anything depending on width and wheel offset. Check our other build videos... may help!
I don’t see why yall don’t just trim the inside. It’s not that big of a deal.
It did require trimming but also dropping the bumpstop to limit compression travel slightly. Fitting = full suspension and turning range without contact.
7.3L ?
6.2L - has plenty of power. It was reworked on the 2017+ Super Duty with improved low torque power
Part number for the wheels
All the parts used in the build are here:
expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/2020-ford-f250-on-37s-expedition-truck-camper-build.216282/
You should have bought a F350
What would that do for me? F250 is the same truck.
@@TruckCamper Exactly. I bought an F-350 with the "camper package" and upgraded tires only to find out that with a 3500 lb. camper on the back it isn't up to prime time...as a result I'll be swapping out the stock springs for custom ones very much like the Deavers you got. You saved a lot of money by getting the 250 and turning it into what you needed...I would have done the same, but I was ignorant. A 350 with a camper on it that weighs no more than 2600 lbs would probably be fine stock, but when you get heavier than that the suspension gets to "max" a hell of a lot sooner than Ford says it does. I like my truck...but I ended up spending money for a badge, really.
U have to lift it
Check out our other videos and how we fit the tires... trimming required
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Level it will be fine
Front was lifted 4". It is alright on road. But needs fender trim when suspension compresses. Lots of room in the rear!
@@TruckCamper workandplay has 37s with just leveled and no rubbing
@@davecampbell1452 HAHA - :) Well played.
Dude get a diesel
No thanks. Diesels are much too complicated. Most repairs dealers will remove the truck cab (faster due to how cramped the engine bay is). This motor is proven to be 500k plus if maintained. Diesel power is nice but not worth the trade offs for me.