12:30 I have the tiniest nit-pick. I've noticed in a couple videos covering the Obsidian Pros, you say "polyurethane," but the PE in UHMWPE is "polyethylene." Polyurethane is usually abbreviated as PU. Polyethylene is abbreviated as PE. Obviously, this has no bearing on any of the rest of the information in your reviews (which are great). I just thought I would mention it. But as always, this was an interesting, informative review.
The noise is definitely a huge L for me but I hope they release the G305 version for all the PMM users. You gotta try out the Ghostglides Cyclones man, they are easily the smoothest skates I've tried on glass.
@@mel0nFPS damn that’s amazing! Can’t wait to hear what you have to say, I’ve tried a good number of skates and those are easily my favorite on the kin.
Just today i made me some plastic skates from four (Plate rounds 2x2 from Lego). Sanded the bottom part down to proper height and they feel and look like dot skates but more durable ofc. The glide is very smooth and the stopping power is very good even on a cordura pad .
The durability is amazing I have to admit - but right now I'm running my Viper V3 Pro using Xraypad's Obsidian Air dots in a Cordura pad, and the speed is pretty nice to my liking. Will keep an eye on this anyway, I hope it's not too slow on a fast/hybrid pad.
I’ve been getting some neuropathy/radiculopathy in my hands lately so I’ve been needing to switch to the control oriented side of the spectrum. Definitely snagging these.
I don't understand your balance point as a person who has used both full sized / dot / smaller pad skates on a variety of surfaces. How exactly are full sized pads unbalanced? Do you mean a lack of balance in terms of speed on the front of the mouse vs back or a balance issue where the front and back or sides are unbalanced in height? (Thanks for the IKEA pad video love that thing still xd)
yes, this. (i assume he means speed in the front and back) and then also how is this supposed to work physically giving the benefit of the doubt maybe hes arguing with things like base material displacement being higher with larger skates when you press really hard or sth like that or varying pressure being applied by the user but i think this needs some clarification
So, the imbalance comes from the differing amounts of friction on the top and bottom skates; the skate's heights are consistent with my experience. Using the X2H stock skates as an example, the top skate has more friction than the bottom skate due to its larger surface area, so the X2H feels top-heavy. While on the DAV3's Xacts, since the bottom skate has a larger surface area than the top skates, the DAV3 feels bottom-heavy. On normal PTFE stock skates, the difference between a mouse's top and bottom skate's friction isn't as noticeable as PTFE is a much faster material. So the different frictions between the skates is "covered up" by the faster PTFE material. But on the Xacts, since the skate material is so highly controlled, the friction differential between a mouse's top and bottom skates is significantly amplified by the more controlled material. Hope that explains what I meant! Glad you're still rocking the IKEA Glass 🎯
@@tewwabyte Drag the tip of your finger on your mousepad. Now do your entire hand. Your hand is slower because you're dragging more surface on the pad, same with the skates and their surface. More surface area = more friction, even if most skates are meant to have very little friction
@@Astro-uv1xq no. for the materials and scales in question here (mouse feet and mousepads that are parallel) surface area does not affect friction in a meaningful way unless ou also want to look at how deep a skate sinks into the base material. it is proportional to the force applied to the mouse.
nice review! any idea how these would compare to corepad ctrls and how these skates would fair on a hybrid/balanced control pad like the aqua control zero? I know you mentioned it would not be as nice on control pads but wanted to see how it would be on control pads that were on the faster/balanced side as opposed to super slow control pads
I haven't tried them myself but seeing as the CTRLs are still PTFE, the Xacts will still be significantly more controlled (based on how they compare to other control PTFE skates like the X-rayPad Obsidian skates).
I bought a set for every mouse I own that they make them for. I put a set on my GPX2 and on the Midori ' The Girl' cloth pad, they're significantly faster than X-Ray Jades. Seems like these things are super super pad dependent.
I haven't found a set for the OGM V2 yet, but I'll let them know that people are requesting skates for that mouse! Hopefully we'll see some release soon!
In order of control on Glass: Obsidian Air Pros Donuts > Obsidian Air Dots > Obsidian Air Pro Dots > Obsidian Air Dots > TJX Xacts > Jade Air Donuts > TJX Plaxtix > Jade Air Dots.
Will definitely make a video on that in the future, but in the meantime if you can give me some details of your preferred grip style and what mice you've liked before I'd be happy to make some recommendations!
Hi, I need help please, I bought the xact for superlight 2 dex. Btw I only play Valorant. So which mousepad u think it will feel better artisan zero xsoft, soft or artisan hayate otsu soft(mayber tell me other artisan mousepad)? Before I was playing on Gamesense radar+corepad ctrl skates and i feel the mouse so hard to move after no movement for like 2-3 seconds being stop. Was so hard to micro-adjust in different words. So i dont really want the some, if u can help me, thanks!
Zero is one of the more popular choices, but it'll be on the slower side. The Otsu is faster but will also get significantly slowed down by the Xacts. I haven't used any of Artisan's pads personally so I can't really say which one will be better for you, sorry!
Hey! Not sure as I don't have an XM2 yet, but I know TJX is planning on making a set for all the new EGG mice! Not sure when they'll release though, hopefully soon!
hi! can you help me with choosing the mouse? i want to play fingertip, wire is not a problem, budget is unlimited. 18x9.5 cm hands. what is your opinion about op1 8k?
OP1 8K, Sora V2, Scyrox V8 all would be good options, personally I think the OP1 8K is the best out of them all but it's a little heavy compared to the others.
@@mel0nFPS and what mousepad can you suggest to play mostly tac shooter (valorant especially)? i personally like more speed pads. is glass pads too fast for tac?
@@1ovann Glass pads are usable for TAC but I wouldn't recommend it, better to go for something more controlled like the InfinityMice Control V2, Kurosun Samurai or X-RayPad HeavyBee!
Great review. I bought 2 sets for my Pulsar mouse and used your code. I was wondering if you could give them feedback about not including the skate around the mouse sensor. They only include the top and bottom mouse skate but nothing for the center sensor skate.
Hey! I'll definitely mention that to them, I totally missed that myself as aftermarket skates don't often come with sensor rings. I'll be sure to pass that along.
@@mel0nFPS Thank you for the response. Which non glass dots do you recommend? I've never used dots but I'm willing to try them and see how they feel. I use 2 different cloth pads depending on the game I'm playing. One slower pad and a faster pad.
companies getting too comfortable releasing whatever knowing the enthusiast will eat that stuff up. $30 after shipping for some skates! I love buying a $100+ mouse + 60$ mousepad and $30 skates!
they are the fastest skates that i've ever tried ...i use the dots version with wlmouse beast mini and attack shark r3. with padsmith empress blu version glasspad..my favourites together xraypad obsidian....but i'm thiking to will put in every my mice this skates xD...i prefer to have more speed and i feel weel on playing cs2
Mel0n , I’m trying to find some skates to use on my Raiden (Soft) what would you recommend me if I’m looking to get a little more of that control back ?
Mel0n the only person on the internet that make 20 minute mouse skate videos
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I see Xactly what you did there 👀
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good stuff man ! always here for any peripheral reviews
love ur skates vids man! keep them comming
12:30 I have the tiniest nit-pick. I've noticed in a couple videos covering the Obsidian Pros, you say "polyurethane," but the PE in UHMWPE is "polyethylene." Polyurethane is usually abbreviated as PU. Polyethylene is abbreviated as PE. Obviously, this has no bearing on any of the rest of the information in your reviews (which are great). I just thought I would mention it. But as always, this was an interesting, informative review.
Oh oops! I totally missed that, thanks for letting me know!
The noise is definitely a huge L for me but I hope they release the G305 version for all the PMM users. You gotta try out the Ghostglides Cyclones man, they are easily the smoothest skates I've tried on glass.
I should be getting the ghost-glides soon actually! Will have reviews on most of their dot-skates up soon!
@@mel0nFPS damn that’s amazing! Can’t wait to hear what you have to say, I’ve tried a good number of skates and those are easily my favorite on the kin.
Just today i made me some plastic skates from four (Plate rounds 2x2 from Lego). Sanded the bottom part down to proper height and they feel and look like dot skates but more durable ofc. The glide is very smooth and the stopping power is very good even on a cordura pad .
Not gonna lie that's an awesome idea, I might have to try that!
The durability is amazing I have to admit - but right now I'm running my Viper V3 Pro using Xraypad's Obsidian Air dots in a Cordura pad, and the speed is pretty nice to my liking.
Will keep an eye on this anyway, I hope it's not too slow on a fast/hybrid pad.
I’ve been getting some neuropathy/radiculopathy in my hands lately so I’ve been needing to switch to the control oriented side of the spectrum. Definitely snagging these.
Switched to fast sens, considering these.
W review.
Edit: Sadly, they don't have Razer Viper Ultimate atm.
I don't understand your balance point as a person who has used both full sized / dot / smaller pad skates on a variety of surfaces. How exactly are full sized pads unbalanced? Do you mean a lack of balance in terms of speed on the front of the mouse vs back or a balance issue where the front and back or sides are unbalanced in height? (Thanks for the IKEA pad video love that thing still xd)
yes, this. (i assume he means speed in the front and back)
and then also how is this supposed to work physically
giving the benefit of the doubt maybe hes arguing with things like base material displacement being higher with larger skates when you press really hard or sth like that or varying pressure being applied by the user but i think this needs some clarification
So, the imbalance comes from the differing amounts of friction on the top and bottom skates; the skate's heights are consistent with my experience. Using the X2H stock skates as an example, the top skate has more friction than the bottom skate due to its larger surface area, so the X2H feels top-heavy. While on the DAV3's Xacts, since the bottom skate has a larger surface area than the top skates, the DAV3 feels bottom-heavy.
On normal PTFE stock skates, the difference between a mouse's top and bottom skate's friction isn't as noticeable as PTFE is a much faster material. So the different frictions between the skates is "covered up" by the faster PTFE material. But on the Xacts, since the skate material is so highly controlled, the friction differential between a mouse's top and bottom skates is significantly amplified by the more controlled material.
Hope that explains what I meant! Glad you're still rocking the IKEA Glass 🎯
@@mel0nFPS but why does more surface area mean more friction
@@tewwabyte Drag the tip of your finger on your mousepad. Now do your entire hand. Your hand is slower because you're dragging more surface on the pad, same with the skates and their surface.
More surface area = more friction, even if most skates are meant to have very little friction
@@Astro-uv1xq no. for the materials and scales in question here (mouse feet and mousepads that are parallel) surface area does not affect friction in a meaningful way unless ou also want to look at how deep a skate sinks into the base material. it is proportional to the force applied to the mouse.
nice review! any idea how these would compare to corepad ctrls and how these skates would fair on a hybrid/balanced control pad like the aqua control zero? I know you mentioned it would not be as nice on control pads but wanted to see how it would be on control pads that were on the faster/balanced side as opposed to super slow control pads
I haven't tried them myself but seeing as the CTRLs are still PTFE, the Xacts will still be significantly more controlled (based on how they compare to other control PTFE skates like the X-rayPad Obsidian skates).
I bought a set for every mouse I own that they make them for. I put a set on my GPX2 and on the Midori ' The Girl' cloth pad, they're significantly faster than X-Ray Jades. Seems like these things are super super pad dependent.
That's very odd, the Girl doesn't have much surface texture right?
Did you find one that fit the OGM Pro V2 nicely? Since they dont have a pre cut for that mouse.
I haven't found a set for the OGM V2 yet, but I'll let them know that people are requesting skates for that mouse! Hopefully we'll see some release soon!
@@mel0nFPS Shame. Its my favourite shape at the moment. Thought maybe one could have fit it. I look forward to a release for it then.
Should they be used with the center skates around the sensor on or off
They're designed to be used without any ring skate, technically you can leave it on but I'd just remove it
Which glass-optimised skates would you say are the slowest ones that you own?
In order of control on Glass: Obsidian Air Pros Donuts > Obsidian Air Dots > Obsidian Air Pro Dots > Obsidian Air Dots > TJX Xacts > Jade Air Donuts > TJX Plaxtix > Jade Air Dots.
nice video could you make a tierlist for the best mice for you hand size as i am around that would honestly help me a lot
Will definitely make a video on that in the future, but in the meantime if you can give me some details of your preferred grip style and what mice you've liked before I'd be happy to make some recommendations!
@@mel0nFPS relaxed claw to fingertip maybe some aggresive claw too i have the DAV3 viper v3 and the fnatic maya 8k x
Hi, I need help please, I bought the xact for superlight 2 dex. Btw I only play Valorant. So which mousepad u think it will feel better artisan zero xsoft, soft or artisan hayate otsu soft(mayber tell me other artisan mousepad)? Before I was playing on Gamesense radar+corepad ctrl skates and i feel the mouse so hard to move after no movement for like 2-3 seconds being stop. Was so hard to micro-adjust in different words. So i dont really want the some, if u can help me, thanks!
Zero is one of the more popular choices, but it'll be on the slower side. The Otsu is faster but will also get significantly slowed down by the Xacts. I haven't used any of Artisan's pads personally so I can't really say which one will be better for you, sorry!
hey do you know if the sora skates will fit the new xm2 8k?
Hey! Not sure as I don't have an XM2 yet, but I know TJX is planning on making a set for all the new EGG mice! Not sure when they'll release though, hopefully soon!
hi! can you help me with choosing the mouse?
i want to play fingertip, wire is not a problem, budget is unlimited. 18x9.5 cm hands.
what is your opinion about op1 8k?
OP1 8K, Sora V2, Scyrox V8 all would be good options, personally I think the OP1 8K is the best out of them all but it's a little heavy compared to the others.
@@mel0nFPS and what mousepad can you suggest to play mostly tac shooter (valorant especially)? i personally like more speed pads. is glass pads too fast for tac?
@@1ovann Glass pads are usable for TAC but I wouldn't recommend it, better to go for something more controlled like the InfinityMice Control V2, Kurosun Samurai or X-RayPad HeavyBee!
Great review. I bought 2 sets for my Pulsar mouse and used your code. I was wondering if you could give them feedback about not including the skate around the mouse sensor. They only include the top and bottom mouse skate but nothing for the center sensor skate.
Hey! I'll definitely mention that to them, I totally missed that myself as aftermarket skates don't often come with sensor rings. I'll be sure to pass that along.
@@mel0nFPS Thank you! Have you noticed a difference in your Pulsar mouse without having the sensor skate?
@@peepoSad_ Personally speaking no, but I never use stock sensor rings as I normally use dot/donuts.
@@mel0nFPS Thank you for the response. Which non glass dots do you recommend? I've never used dots but I'm willing to try them and see how they feel. I use 2 different cloth pads depending on the game I'm playing. One slower pad and a faster pad.
@@peepoSad_ How soft are the cloth pads you're using?
If only they sold dots or donut variants :(
They sell dots in the form of the Plastix, but I've been telling them to make donuts for a while now! Hopefully we'll see some soon!
companies getting too comfortable releasing whatever knowing the enthusiast will eat that stuff up. $30 after shipping for some skates! I love buying a $100+ mouse + 60$ mousepad and $30 skates!
Right now they're only available on TJX's website but they'll be available at more retailers soon so you can get better shipping rates!
they are the fastest skates that i've ever tried ...i use the dots version with wlmouse beast mini and attack shark r3. with padsmith empress blu version glasspad..my favourites together xraypad obsidian....but i'm thiking to will put in every my mice this skates xD...i prefer to have more speed and i feel weel on playing cs2
This or xraypad jades?
Depends on what you're looking for, if you want speed go for the jades, if you want control go for the Xacts!
Lol they sounded like you where sanding your pad. Personally I love my obsidian dots!
Yeah, they ain't exactly quiet 😭
I legit cringed at the sound. You weren't kidding about the loudness. 😂
Sneak -100 😅
Dots skates are trash. Idk why people rave about them. Bought cyclone skates. Hate them. Jade dots hated them. Dots skates are overrated
Depends fo ur pad bro
Purple OP1 8k dropped. XM2W. OP1w 4k!
I hopefully have an XM2 8K and Purple OP1 8K on the way!
@@mel0nFPS Love your extensive reviews. Can't wait to see the vids!
Mel0n , I’m trying to find some skates to use on my Raiden (Soft) what would you recommend me if I’m looking to get a little more of that control back ?
Hey! The Xacts or the X-Raypad Obsidian Donuts would be solid options!
@@mel0nFPS Ty , I have Xacts & Dots on the way