I’m a chemist who deals with these materials pretty frequently. I’m not confident in the physics of everything, but I always wondered why PTFE was the gold standard for mice when a lot of fields favor other plastics
Probably because hardness didn't matter too much for mouse skates back then so they just took the lowest friction material and slapped them onto mice skates and thought nothing of it
besides friction coefficient ptfe is hydro- and oleophobic which is important for consistency in humid and sweaty conditions. do you know if these other materials should hold up in those regards?
I think unfortunately that answer is the most boring one, which is just status quo, going back anywhere past like 10 years, gaming was nowhere near as specialized as it is now, especially as far as gear goes, and so there was a pretty unbalanced ratio of large mass production because the whole world is playing games but simultaneously a small selection of brands, so there wasn't much material versatility because there were only a handful of big brands (razer, Logitech etc etc) and so experimenting with different materials just wasn't worth it for them given R&D costs and the risk of experimental options not working out when they have much more casual-esk players in their target audience who wouldn't care about such minimalist tuning to the products,despite as you pointed out there probably being dozens of different material options that could be equally if not more efficient, but now we are slowly getting more of that because of small niche brands that can pander to a specialized player base who are willing to invest in lesser known brands and spend more money if it means getting the most optimal set-up
Comparing the ghostglide cyclones to the obsidian pro airs, the cyclones had a lot more control for me on glass pads which was really nice. It also could just be that the UHMWPE material that the pro airs are made of is just way harder than the hardened PTFE and takes a really long time to break in. I tried using them for a few hours and just didn't want to use them for a super long time to get them worn in. But they are super smooth at least and pretty quiet as well. I'll try them again at some point prolly
teach us the ways of the OPTIMAL DOT PLACEMENT! and why aren't we at the level yet where we place different material dots on one mouse to optimize the speed? 😂
Poly vs ultem, which have the least "stickiness"? Normal ptfe skates when broken in always seem to have that sticky/staticy initial friction which I'm trying to get rid of.
I, gonna give these a go couldn’t stand the stock skates on the death adder v3 hyper speed so took me off using no skates Ona raider mid and shit kinda clean.
Boardzy… I need to know… which one is most like Hyperglides? I play on a Hien and I like how soft and smooth Hyperglides are. I can adjust to fast or slow speed, I just need the smoothness.
Probably their PTFE option, if not that the polyacetate. Supposedly the PTFE mimics the R Curve from hyperglides. I’m waiting for my ULX aceu to arrive to test them
Ok I might try that thanks, cause I don’t have a high end mouse pad at all so I get a lot of the issue you described where you try to micro correct and it just gets stuck before you actually want it to stop, it’s just so inconsistent for small movements. For reference I am going from a Razer basikisk v3 w stock skates to a Superlight so it might take some time to adjust, but yea the Superlight and the stock skates felt super scratchy so gonna try the poly acetal
@@itskastel Overall I prefer the Jades because they have a softish feel and glides easily on glass. It’s a better version of BTL and Tiger Ice V2 skates. The Red obsidians are too stiff for my liking.
@@DigitalLiquid I have an mp511 mouse pad, it feels a bit fast so I thought "if the mouse pad is fast and I buy a control skate it would have a balanced feel" but I've never tried custom skates so I'm looking for an opinion of people who tried it, if you think jades are better, I will buy them
Iam sure i have seen small round mouse feet on mice way before these mostly budget mice i think. But atleast they are fast and simple to switch out. good stuff. But the new meta is no mouse skates though. Just sand the underside of the gaming mouse until it becomes shiny and it will glide really good
Best skates meant to be used for both cloth/glass? I use a m3k with red obsidian dot skates/stock core pads with the kin and a Saturn pro soft with the Saturn pro only being used with stock skates. I hate having to swap skates just for one pad so I got the cyclones and they’re coming soon but do you think the cyclones will perform fast or slower? I assume it’ll perform semi fast since the m3k only has room for four dots and since there’s less contact being made, it’ll be faster? If not what skates do you think will be good for a Saturn pro soft? Jades?
@@boardzy yeah that’s what I’ve been thinking, and I feel it might be different with an m3k since it’s very light and will have less contact (four dots). Usually the experience I’ve been hearing with hardened ptfe/uhmwpe dot skates on cloth is negative, but I’m thinking that’s only because they’re using bigger mice which require more dots. More dots, more contact, more friction. Can never get a straight answer since it’s never a direct answer to my question. Do you think you can test cyclones with an m2k on an artisan fx zero and Saturn pro and give me response? I already the cyclones coming but I can cancel them if they’re not good and could just order jades.
Nah they sent me some but they were in one of the huge boxes they sent out for boardzyfest so I couldnt locate them, should be getting a new set soon tho
of these, which is best? got the stock feet on superlight 2 with hein soft pad.. looking for something faster. is it ok to put dots on top of stock skates or do you need to remove old skates first? why?
@@boardzyIt's both. POM usually on the stems, nylon on bottom housing. POM is harder with good wear characteristics (sliding up down), nylon is softer & cheaper (less brittle switch housings). Polyacetal =POM PA (polyamide) = Nylon
@boardzy Hey suggest me a best small-medium hand budget mouse with 3395 i was thinking aj159 apex or atk r1 pro any better options?or which one among them?
Have you ever seen mice with aluminium skates? I had one of these mice years ago and I really enjoyed using it with these skates (but mouse itself was probably bad, it was like my second ever mouse and was like 120 grams. I still have good memories of using it tho)
How long do skates typically last on cloth mats? Wondering when to replace mine (tiger ice skates on lgg Saturn pro). Thinking of getting some faster skates too
Out of the popular skates rn what would you recommend for beast x mini and AC+? Looking for new skates but not sure what type to try. I currently got the stock PTFE ones on.
WLmouse stock dot skates are really good, jades/ice v2 are great but probably won't feel too different. These are premium/overpriced but provide a unique feeling, if any of them seem interesting you could try that
@@boardzy I've got the black triangle skates on rn cos the dots felt a bit inconsistent on the AC+ (maybe I apply pressure to one side of the mouse more) I used to have tiger ice on my lamzu. Tempted to try the xraypad stuff since I've got an AC+. Would obsidians be really slow on AC+?
I havent tried their PTFE, so it could be faster. I was referencing standard PTFE skates I've tested. Both the polyacetal and ultem play faster because of the rounding/thickness as well
SOUNDS PROMISING I USE GLASS SKATES BUT THEY RUIN ALL PADS FOR ME EXCEPT RAIDEN, BUT LIKE WHEN I TRIED PTFE DOTS ON CLOTHPAD COZ OF LOW SURFACE AREA WHEN I GLIDE MY MOUSE ITS VERY SLOW COZ THEY PRESS DOWN IN THE PAD SLOWING IT DOWN, IS THERE SAME PROBLE HERE (I DIDNT EVEN TRY TO PRESS HARD, JUST HOLDING MOUSE AS NORMAL AND WITH 4 PTFE DOTS IT WAS SO SLOW)
@@-GRXNDSCOPER- what was i talkin abt it was like i was drunk anyway if the problem is that big just get a glass mousepad or put like 6 or even 8 dots on ur mouse
Hey mate, are there any options for ergo mice with back humps? On my journey in finding a mouse, I found that mice with forward or middle humps and little to no meat at the back feel awkward to pincer, sure they have the width for it at the back, but I also need height at the back. XM2WE definitely felt comfortable to claw but if I were to main a mouse I definitely am interested in going with ergo as I value comfort aswell.
@@elohsofficals Thanks mate, do we have like the same grip then? For example, the ec3 I bought definitely has the width for the grip (the right flareout of the mouse) but its at the very bottom, and the overall height is so low... that i feel like I have to spread my hands across to contact it and then squeeze in subsequently which then awkwardly tilts the mouse. Thorn I will definitely consider!
Do you have a sight that tells you where to place the dots skates on mice im on a lamzu and have my dots in a pattern but uses 11 dots and it doesn't feel balenced well going left to right
Send them over to Oslo, I’m doing a phd on identifying molecules with spectroscopy, i could break down every inch of any product to see what components/materials that any given part of an object is made of 🤠
@@boardzy its easy to say something will be better off the bat as a joke but this is genuinely cool and i wouldn't have heard about it without this video so thanks bro
I would say the ultem speed feels faster, BUT I was told their PTFE is also fast since the edge rounding/surface is much more dialed in due to machining. Poly does play fast though
boardzy pls dude this isnt my wolf in my profile picture in case you think im a bot account im genuinely asking a real question plz I can donate thanks to you for answer
i rawdog my mice, no skates, no mousepad, just run the baseplate on the desk the way god intended
U WHAT WITH UR MOUSE?!
@@-GRXNDSCOPER- you heard me
@@notTerabytebro likes to feel the scratches and bumps while shooting heads
@@fqves the friction helps for control
Rawdawging is very 90's, very cool!
shroud is gonna be losing hair over this
no blood of the Logi Christ no buy
Shroud also once said that in order to get the most performance from a mouse, you have to use the same name brand mouse pads for best results... LOL
@@Koalamunchies3pretty sure that's what the OP was referring to.
@@Koalamunchies3 And thought that the Ninjutso Sora was Ninja's mouse 💀
"Nah, It's GG"
Polyacetal is the same material that most mechanical keyboard switches are made of.
It's also marketed as POM.
Thanks, I was wondering if I know it already.
I’m a chemist who deals with these materials pretty frequently. I’m not confident in the physics of everything, but I always wondered why PTFE was the gold standard for mice when a lot of fields favor other plastics
Probably because hardness didn't matter too much for mouse skates back then so they just took the lowest friction material and slapped them onto mice skates and thought nothing of it
lowest friction coefficient in general use i believe
besides friction coefficient ptfe is hydro- and oleophobic which is important for consistency in humid and sweaty conditions. do you know if these other materials should hold up in those regards?
I think unfortunately that answer is the most boring one, which is just status quo, going back anywhere past like 10 years, gaming was nowhere near as specialized as it is now, especially as far as gear goes, and so there was a pretty unbalanced ratio of large mass production because the whole world is playing games but simultaneously a small selection of brands, so there wasn't much material versatility because there were only a handful of big brands (razer, Logitech etc etc) and so experimenting with different materials just wasn't worth it for them given R&D costs and the risk of experimental options not working out when they have much more casual-esk players in their target audience who wouldn't care about such minimalist tuning to the products,despite as you pointed out there probably being dozens of different material options that could be equally if not more efficient, but now we are slowly getting more of that because of small niche brands that can pander to a specialized player base who are willing to invest in lesser known brands and spend more money if it means getting the most optimal set-up
If you were a chemist you would know that ptfe has the lowest friction coefficient out of all plastics and you would not ask this question
I thought these were pills i was shocked and thought boardzy was selling gamer drugs at first.😂
condensed eboy bathwater pills for that quick adrenaline rush when playing aim traimers
I thought it was candy dots
If you eat them, you will get very smooth brain, so more glide or something.
Obsidian Airs are goated, shame you didn't pick up some of those as well. Huge difference in sound signature compared to the scratchy AF obsidians.
I'll be getting them soon
Comparing the ghostglide cyclones to the obsidian pro airs, the cyclones had a lot more control for me on glass pads which was really nice. It also could just be that the UHMWPE material that the pro airs are made of is just way harder than the hardened PTFE and takes a really long time to break in. I tried using them for a few hours and just didn't want to use them for a super long time to get them worn in. But they are super smooth at least and pretty quiet as well. I'll try them again at some point prolly
I haven't used the Pro Airs because I use mainly cloth/hybrid pads so I opted for the regular purple Airs.
teach us the ways of the OPTIMAL DOT PLACEMENT! and why aren't we at the level yet where we place different material dots on one mouse to optimize the speed? 😂
I second this, haha
Poly vs ultem, which have the least "stickiness"? Normal ptfe skates when broken in always seem to have that sticky/staticy initial friction which I'm trying to get rid of.
Probably ultem. I havent tried ntechs PTFE, but that could be solid as well
any update on getting rid of the stickiness from broken in ptfe?
@@ToThinkorNot Ended up just getting jade donuts and they're significantly faster.
Need the mousepad tier list 🤞🏻🤞🏻
Ghostglide cyclones are by far the best skates I've tried on glass.
I've been thinking about trying some dots. Thumbs up!
Wow mouse skates are turning into boutique guitar plectrums.
birth control skates
Grandma those are mouse skates not your pills!
I, gonna give these a go couldn’t stand the stock skates on the death adder v3 hyper speed so took me off using no skates Ona raider mid and shit kinda clean.
Boardzy… I need to know… which one is most like Hyperglides? I play on a Hien and I like how soft and smooth Hyperglides are. I can adjust to fast or slow speed, I just need the smoothness.
Probably their PTFE option, if not that the polyacetate. Supposedly the PTFE mimics the R Curve from hyperglides. I’m waiting for my ULX aceu to arrive to test them
@@boardzy Inshallah, may your aceu come soon. I got mine, it’s pretty nice, the coating and QC is great.
Would these be too fast for a cordura pad?!
Ultimate Gaming mouse skates tier list, when? :D
I need the nTech UHZ skates but they're out of stock everywhere.
So would turcite balanced be best for lower initial static friction than traditional PTFE but still with ample stopping power?
In my opinion turcite balanced initial friction is sorta high. I think polyacetal balanced could be better
Ok I might try that thanks, cause I don’t have a high end mouse pad at all so I get a lot of the issue you described where you try to micro correct and it just gets stuck before you actually want it to stop, it’s just so inconsistent for small movements. For reference I am going from a Razer basikisk v3 w stock skates to a Superlight so it might take some time to adjust, but yea the Superlight and the stock skates felt super scratchy so gonna try the poly acetal
Now he's just selling percs on youtube???
Would be good for tac fps?
The x-ray jades are the endgame 😮💨
Do you think the obsidian are better? why you prefer the jades?
@@itskastel Overall I prefer the Jades because they have a softish feel and glides easily on glass. It’s a better version of BTL and Tiger Ice V2 skates. The Red obsidians are too stiff for my liking.
@@DigitalLiquid I have an mp511 mouse pad, it feels a bit fast so I thought "if the mouse pad is fast and I buy a control skate it would have a balanced feel" but I've never tried custom skates so I'm looking for an opinion of people who tried it, if you think jades are better, I will buy them
@@itskastel Give them a try and see how you like it. You will notice a difference if its your first time swapping out the skates.
Hey boardzy
Do U still reccomend me the core pad tiger ice 2 xraypad jades for glass mouse pad or no mouse pad at all and wood table
Yeah those are still solid options lmao go for whatever is cheapest
@@boardzy okay thx
What would your picks be for ergos that works well for a standard aggressive claw grip with curled fingers?
I think the new xtrfy m64 pro would be good but idk boardzys opinions
Iam sure i have seen small round mouse feet on mice way before these mostly budget mice i think. But atleast they are fast and simple to switch out. good stuff. But the new meta is no mouse skates though. Just sand the underside of the gaming mouse until it becomes shiny and it will glide really good
Hi i have ulx pro series S tarik do you recoment esport tiger ice v2 or some of this dods?😅
which one should i get if i have a gpx 2 and a musashi void v2 and i play fps game?
Best skates meant to be used for both cloth/glass? I use a m3k with red obsidian dot skates/stock core pads with the kin and a Saturn pro soft with the Saturn pro only being used with stock skates. I hate having to swap skates just for one pad so I got the cyclones and they’re coming soon but do you think the cyclones will perform fast or slower? I assume it’ll perform semi fast since the m3k only has room for four dots and since there’s less contact being made, it’ll be faster? If not what skates do you think will be good for a Saturn pro soft? Jades?
Jades probably the best all around. I wouldnt main hardened ptfe with cloth/hybrid pads but with an M3k it would be different I guess
@@boardzy yeah that’s what I’ve been thinking, and I feel it might be different with an m3k since it’s very light and will have less contact (four dots).
Usually the experience I’ve been hearing with hardened ptfe/uhmwpe dot skates on cloth is negative, but I’m thinking that’s only because they’re using bigger mice which require more dots. More dots, more contact, more friction. Can never get a straight answer since it’s never a direct answer to my question. Do you think you can test cyclones with an m2k on an artisan fx zero and Saturn pro and give me response? I already the cyclones coming but I can cancel them if they’re not good and could just order jades.
DPI is completely off after putting these on.
have you checked out the obsidian pro airs yet?
Nah they sent me some but they were in one of the huge boxes they sent out for boardzyfest so I couldnt locate them, should be getting a new set soon tho
which is the best skates for 32cm/360 using a GPX1, on a artisan zero soft
of these, which is best? got the stock feet on superlight 2 with hein soft pad.. looking for something faster. is it ok to put dots on top of stock skates or do you need to remove old skates first? why?
always remove stock skates
Would you use dot skates on the WL Mouse Sword ?
I HAVE MOUISE WILL BEAST WX MINI WHAT SHOULD I BUY PLEASE HELP ME
The majority of keyboard switches out there are made with this nylon, PA66. Assuming that's what the name, Nylon66, is referring to.
Someone said the same about polyacetal saying it was POM lmao, idk what to believe
@@boardzyIt's both. POM usually on the stems, nylon on bottom housing.
POM is harder with good wear characteristics (sliding up down), nylon is softer & cheaper (less brittle switch housings).
Polyacetal =POM
PA (polyamide) = Nylon
Full sized skates for me. I have a decade supply of Jades for all my mice. I'm good.
How are these like on Harder mouse pads. Like do they get chewed up ?
@boardzy what mouse skates u use on the ulx and do u use any mouse tape for the sides?
@boardzy Hey suggest me a best small-medium hand budget mouse with 3395 i was thinking aj159 apex or atk r1 pro any better options?or which one among them?
Have you ever seen mice with aluminium skates? I had one of these mice years ago and I really enjoyed using it with these skates (but mouse itself was probably bad, it was like my second ever mouse and was like 120 grams. I still have good memories of using it tho)
Sounds like A4Tech Bloody to me
@@04raven yeah, you're right
Best skates for the final mouse Tarik and artisan hien soft xl combo?
isnt it the same as the starlight in terms of skates?
@@R3APER-350xx I believe so but not for sure!
How do the perform in glass pads :3
Pretty terribly. None of them felt close to better than PTFE/cyclones/obsidians
@@boardzy Oki c:
Per their diagram online, their PLZ (PTFE) are still the fastest material?
What's next, Diamond mouse skates?
These actually existed a few years ago, called flexskates
How many would you put on the viper v3 pro?
I personally dont like dot skates on mice like viper v3 pro/gpx. I would imagine at least 6 though, 4 felt weird for me
How long do skates typically last on cloth mats? Wondering when to replace mine (tiger ice skates on lgg Saturn pro). Thinking of getting some faster skates too
Are they dots?? I suggest u just get some jade dots or jade's for ultimate speed without breaking bank
@nickavcado3600 no, are dots much better?
Out of the popular skates rn what would you recommend for beast x mini and AC+? Looking for new skates but not sure what type to try. I currently got the stock PTFE ones on.
WLmouse stock dot skates are really good, jades/ice v2 are great but probably won't feel too different. These are premium/overpriced but provide a unique feeling, if any of them seem interesting you could try that
@@boardzy I've got the black triangle skates on rn cos the dots felt a bit inconsistent on the AC+ (maybe I apply pressure to one side of the mouse more) I used to have tiger ice on my lamzu. Tempted to try the xraypad stuff since I've got an AC+. Would obsidians be really slow on AC+?
so which one should i get?
which one would u guys recommend for Sora V2 on a Strikerpad PRO ? ( Speed mousepad )
Interesting that ULTEM felt faster than PTFE (they're all plastics btw) given PTFE has, on paper, lower friction coefficient.
I havent tried their PTFE, so it could be faster. I was referencing standard PTFE skates I've tested. Both the polyacetal and ultem play faster because of the rounding/thickness as well
What about hard mouse pad? any testing...
best glass/ceramic dot skates?
should i get the fast ones paired with an Aqua control 2 ?
Not worth to get these skates just get like jade dots if u want speed these are not that usefull
Can you use these for glass pad?
think you could check out the Darmoshark n5?
Darmoshark ergos are terrible so likely not. I do have their fingertip mouse though, which is a nice shape but too heavy
@@boardzy Ahha im looking for a budget ergo mouse that is wireless and thats the only one that is pretty cheaps and looks alr
Which are the best?
SOUNDS PROMISING I USE GLASS SKATES BUT THEY RUIN ALL PADS FOR ME EXCEPT RAIDEN, BUT LIKE WHEN I TRIED PTFE DOTS ON CLOTHPAD COZ OF LOW SURFACE AREA WHEN I GLIDE MY MOUSE ITS VERY SLOW COZ THEY PRESS DOWN IN THE PAD SLOWING IT DOWN, IS THERE SAME PROBLE HERE (I DIDNT EVEN TRY TO PRESS HARD, JUST HOLDING MOUSE AS NORMAL AND WITH 4 PTFE DOTS IT WAS SO SLOW)
Just get mid version or get a fling glass mouse pad that will be the best for u
@@hoarka3052 I HAVE MID ALREADY
@@hoarka3052 FLING?
@@-GRXNDSCOPER- what was i talkin abt it was like i was drunk anyway if the problem is that big just get a glass mousepad or put like 6 or even 8 dots on ur mouse
what cheap options we got?
Hey mate, are there any options for ergo mice with back humps? On my journey in finding a mouse, I found that mice with forward or middle humps and little to no meat at the back feel awkward to pincer, sure they have the width for it at the back, but I also need height at the back. XM2WE definitely felt comfortable to claw but if I were to main a mouse I definitely am interested in going with ergo as I value comfort aswell.
I was looking for the exact same thing! My lamzu thorn has a back hump so go for that
@@elohsofficals Thanks mate, do we have like the same grip then? For example, the ec3 I bought definitely has the width for the grip (the right flareout of the mouse) but its at the very bottom, and the overall height is so low... that i feel like I have to spread my hands across to contact it and then squeeze in subsequently which then awkwardly tilts the mouse. Thorn I will definitely consider!
ASUS Gladius III
When you going to compare rate and explain switch differences
R POLY SKATES FASTER THAN GLASS SKATES?
I havent used glass skates recently, the last I tried were superglide 2s which were weird/textured and very controlled. These probably play faster tho
Which should I get for a Sora V2 on a hayate otsu?
I put tiger ice gpx skates on my Sora v2 lol feels great
So Cyclones > TJX PlastiX for glass?
For what I look for yeah, if you want a harder skate with some scratchiness that doesnt slow down when you apply for plastix are good
best for skypad 4.0??
I’ve tried ceramic skates before and they were awful. Don’t think they are supposed to be used with cloth pads.
Do you have a sight that tells you where to place the dots skates on mice im on a lamzu and have my dots in a pattern but uses 11 dots and it doesn't feel balenced well going left to right
11 dots isss way too much broski lmao ???
Ik that it is lol i was just trying to make it ballenced and didnt see anyone that had done the lamzu atlantis with dot skates
use 3 skates per side
@@yoshi555king ty
@@shotgunshellman I haven't done dots on my Atlantis mice yet. I do have it on M42 and pattern for balancing it out is 1/1 for m42
The ultum is good for glass pad ? And hello 😊
Nvm man just see all the vidéo lmao
Hi @boardzy, can i buy u the extra pair of the viper mini signature stock skates,please
can u link the ali express 40 pack
Send them over to Oslo, I’m doing a phd on identifying molecules with spectroscopy, i could break down every inch of any product to see what components/materials that any given part of an object is made of 🤠
whats good boardzy its viewer
shockingly jade dots will be better
A better value no question
@@boardzy its easy to say something will be better off the bat as a joke but this is genuinely cool and i wouldn't have heard about it without this video so thanks bro
What's the thickness of them? Is it 0.8mm?
1mm, I havent had any LOD issues except for when using low with razer
@@boardzy I know, but I need specifically 0.8mm size. I asked the manufacturer if they can provide 0.8mm thickness as custom order
boardzy help me plz what is best pick for claw grip ergo, I play aggressive claw with curled fingers thx
zaunkoenig m2k
@@notTerabyte thnx looks a bit small but I try it out
@@notTerabyte bro wait your troll
lamzu thorn?
Dav3 pro xlite v3 probably other options, ergos are saturated
stock mouse feet only and same mousepad as the mouse brand thank you shroud said it he knows
Just an opinion really...
Finalmouse don’t got mousepads
Wrong.
Wait, Artisan Zero zebra edition?
Yup dropping in a few months
@@boardzy damn bro congrats on collab
SO POLY ONES R THE FASTEST?
I would say the ultem speed feels faster, BUT I was told their PTFE is also fast since the edge rounding/surface is much more dialed in due to machining. Poly does play fast though
Boardzy what is the best mouse at the moment?
i saw some tiger ice skates on amazon or walmart for $10 but I got the same one on aliexpress for $2
Shocking
WHAT IS WITH ALL THE CAPS COMMENTS?
one weirdo has a bugged out youtube and a broken caps lock and keeps posting new comments when he asks questions
in your opinion which is better for glass mousepad?
None, just get standard PTFE skates or cyclones
@@boardzy Great. thanks for your answer bro.Also these looks interesting I'll definitely try them
love ultem
Thumbnail looks too suspicious.
saw the thumbnail and thought boardzy started a new type of addiction 😭
SHOCKINGGG
Not cheap but worth it if they last at least 4 months ngl
Are all of these okay to use on glass?
Nvm just saw the premium disclaimer
Ngl they look like those MnMs choco things
you mean to tell me those arent drugs in the thumbnail?
I use aluminuin skates.
make the title more shocking
We need a mouse made of Aerogel
i thought these were meds bro
Bro got hella adderall
I didn't come here to be dot placement shamed
😱
Are you good with spicy food
I cant tell if this is a bot comment but yeah
boardzy pls dude this isnt my wolf in my profile picture in case you think im a bot account im genuinely asking a real question plz I can donate thanks to you for answer
get donowalled