I hope Vinland brings about more studios to be brave enough to animate Seinen-genre mangas. Beserk deserves a whole new anime revamp. Vagabond deserves a big studio taking it.
I think canutes development has been pretty cool to watch also. It's like thorfinn and canute switched personalities almost. And also switched haircuts lol.
The scene where Thorfinn had to crawl up a hole while holding all the people he's killed was the most powerful emotional moment I have ever experienced while watching a show.
Makes you take askeladd as a father and thorfinn as his son and you are in thorfinn's position...... I can't imagine myself in this situation where my father asks me how will you live after im gone..........
I don’t know how anyone can like what Throfinn becomes…. A weak naive bxtch that gets taken advantage of. I liked him better when he was a bloodthirsty warrior, I understand the guy needed character development but the way they did it was so…. Gay 😂 he’s some soft soy boi now so no thanks
The most beautiful thing about the season was how the author defined courage. That shit hit deep. I also like the emphasis on the little things, which is very in theme since Thorfinn also gets to learn to appreciate those in this season.
You have to be a certain level of maturity to appreciate season 2. People who haven’t experienced a lot yet won’t be able to appreciate a hero rectifying his actions rather than constantly going to the next unjustified slaughter
Exactly I still remember reading the manga years ago when I was 12 and I found it kinda boring just like how some people see season two but now that I'm older and more mature I see how this show is a masterpiece
That's how I feel about it. Ten years ago I would have called this a "pussy show" because they dared to show a perspective that isn't "Hey isn't it badass how angry he looks while killing??? He's just like Erin Jager OMG!!!" like all the vapid 12 year olds who idolize young Thorfinn.
That's some heavy elitist behavior my brother in christ. If Vinland Saga S2 requires to have a certain level of maturity to watch then you're... quite deluded
I agree that her arc is great but like she blue balled the fuck out of Einar, she's so fucking lucky Einar was a great person until she died, I liked Ketil until he decided to beat Arnheid despite her being pregnant with his baby and even poked at the baby, he can suck my dick.
@@MidnightDrive589you also gotta love the bots, I mean look at all the little cutie patooties 'exposing' charlie. Just look at them go! (There are 17 disabled children in my basement) 😊
I have never liked a show so much that I picked up reading it. I was surprised at how the story changes the next arc(after season 1), but it made me really think deeply about my own life, and how I want to live. Season 3 is going to bring GREAT things for the show too. I cannot wait to see more of this story animated.
Vinland Saga season 2 is the best piece of media that I’ve consumed this year. This show absolutely blew me away with its storytelling, it’s music and the message behind it. This story actually encouraged me in a way that few pieces of media ever have. This story makes you want to be a better person. It’s absolutely beautiful to see and it deserves the highest of praise.
Jeez thank you for making this. Vinland Saga is like no anime I've seen. The scene where Snake was reading the Bible passage about loving your enemies to old master was an absolute masterpiece because it was such a stark contrast to the lives they were living at the time. So much thought has been put into every crevice of this show and it's paid off. I cried so many times throughout the second season. It's easily at the top of my list, and it might even become my favorite anime.
Vinland Saga as a whole is just a masterpiece. The themes and overall message of the story is just awesome. The character development is PEAK. There’s a reason Berserk, Vinland Saga, and Vagabond are highly appreciated.
Season 2 was what made this my favourite anime. This isn't an anime for 13 - 15 year olds. This has to be advertised to an older demographic, anime audience are mostly into shonen and aren't matured enough to appreciate and enjoy this masterpiece
Yeah i dont know its just boring. I personally didnt spend enough time with thorfinn to really care about his "wait killing bad?" Ephiphany. Berserk has done and is doing it better.
@@joyboy6752 I guess if you don't connect with the character, the story wouldn't hit as hard. I can't speak much on Berserk's world, but a part of the huge impact of Thorfinn realizing he has no enemies is because of how warrior-oriented the Viking Age was. Declaring you won't hurt people is pretty insane in a time as violent as that
I enjoy Charlie leaving his pets in his videos, even if they interrupt his train of thought and break his flow. He just goes with it and it's nice. I like that.
As a Vinland Saga Manga reader, I knew a lot of people were going to be turned off by season 2 and its drastic change of pace. Which is unfortunate, because the story that unfolds is very beautiful. Makoto Yukimura is a very insightful individual, and his art is quite amazing. I'm glad that he's able to share it with the rest of us.
when season 1 ended i remember seeing a comment saying that S2 was going to be alot different and very slow, glad i did because i was ready for the change and loved it
Honestly this is me. I loved season 1 because I like to watch anime for story + action, and s1 of vinland saga perfected both. So although I can respect the story and can respect people's opinions of season 2, i just genuinely didnt enjoy it because it felt like I got vertigo from the suddenness of thorfinn going from an edgy depressed fighter mc to a jesus christ pacifist wannabe in the space of (from the audience perspective) literally no time at all because we didnt see any of the timeskip content.
i got the entire experience of it on the anime, and i genuinely loved what the author did. Vinland Saga is probably one of the most fantastic anime i've ever watched, and I can't wait to see what they have in store
@@chivzlol8649I've read the entire Vinland Saga manga and yeah the drastic alternate pace and flow could turn off people but the story and art is genuinely amazing. A Japanese manga artist makes probably the greatest ancient Nordic storytelling in recent times, alongside The Northman of course.😂
Vinland saga is an insanely amazing anime. It is the best show ever of any medium. Honestly it has completely changed my outlook on life and Thorfinn is an inspiration like no other. I cried like crazy a couple of times because Thorfinn is such a good and strong person.
@@Kjernekar yeah you people have completely changed what the word alpha means nowadays 3 years ago when I made that playlist it meant striving to be the best version of yourself thank god I did
Season 2 made my jaw drop... The portrayal of going from a hollow man to a man with a purpose in life was so incredibly done with perfect pacing too. It truly is the best season of vinland yet for me.
@@KiTho06t's just not tho, I completely understand where u guys are coming from and I love season 2. But saying season 1 wasn't as good is a straight up lie. There's a reason so many people dropped it, season 1 felt almost magical with the way the storytelling was done. The violence and gore of the world was sold amazingly through the action. Like it or not that is what many people fell in love with the show for. As much as I like season 2, it isn't better than season 1, at least not in my opinion. Not even close.
WRONG season 1 was great season 2 is a boring dollar store story about redemption and purpose. None of it was inspiring or fun to watch there's tons of these stories out there but season 1 WAS special it it's own way it wasn't just an action anime it was action mercenary adventure and viking court intrigue and THAT is special. I want more of THAT not the crybaby "waaaa killing is bad" crap they force-fed you for the rest of the manga
@@hamooozmugharbel if you just like the fights, the go watch naruto or one piece or some shit that has good fights in it, the author of vinland had a vision in his story and wanted to take it somewhere special, vinland saga is not a shonen anime where the main character gets a boost every fight, it's an anime about life and it's turning points and how a person can change after his sole purpose is gone, Gigguk's interview with the author explains a lot, so I do recommend watching it to understand why it took that turn of events in it's story.
He said its underappreciated and nobody talks about it but it is literally the most popular anime right now. The most popular meme right now "i have no enemies" even people from non-anime communities know about it. It is way more appreciated too from back then when season 1 came out.
@@armaanb.6566 nah the most popular anime right now is def oshi no ko and demon slayer. Oshi no ko has crazy stream numbers and it’s opening hit top billboard charts. Vinland def got overshadowed like crazy, yea the i have no enemies meme got fairly popular but most people quoting the meme and giving it more popularity likely never even watched the show.
Charlie's rant isn't true, people are talking about it, it's just people who think it's not are the one's who live in a bubble echo chamber Charlie included.
I hurts me to hear that season 2 was underrated, its so beautiful. I knew people fell off season 2 but i didnt know it was this underrated, Thorfinn's saga of coming to terms with his feelings and learning his dads message is so fucking well done i loved every second of it.
I think the only reason people are calling this underrated is because many of the people aren't in the anime community. Vinland Saga has been well known for years, even being called one of the top three seinen, along with Berserk and Vagabond. So it isn't underrated, people just aren't really in an anime community
@@exnecross3141in the grand scheme of animes, the vinland saga really isnt popular. In fact, it was so unpopular this second season was barely made. Ofc its a lot more popular in the west, but where the real money is back in japan, people arent rly interested so it barely receives any attention
@@exnecross3141 A very small ratio dropped it? 8.7 with 700k+ members 8.8 with 100k+ members With members included you can actually see how underrated season 2 is.
I can confidently say that I cried like a little baby boy towards the end of s2, I've never had an anime character get to me like Thorfin did, plus the Manga creator is such a wholesome person I can't help but feel grateful he has blessed us with this work of art, his other work ( Planetes ) is amazing as well completely different vibe
the end of episode 23 was so good. the conversation between thorfinn and einar at arnheids grave with that beautiful ost and then the poem afterwards. Beautifully written season I almost cried too.
Never seen the show before but the way he talks about protagonist development reminds me a lot of the development Guts has throughout Berserk and anything that well crafted is something to always appreciate.
Vinland Saga is considered one of the "Big 3" of seinen manga along with Vagabond and of course Berserk. If you like the mature story telling of Berserk you should find both of the other two fantastic.
@@axelthesotBerserk definitely is the best of the three by a massive margin but Vinland saga at least has some stuff going for it. Like I guess having the best line delivery. Vagabond only for artstyle
@@Ballsackgamindisagree, berserk is my favourite manga of all time, but it’s not by some massive margin. The slave arc of Vinland saga might be my just be my favourite arc from all 3 (mind you it’s really close w/golden age and FOTME)
Bro this line made me reflect on my life. And for the first time I realized what Thorfinn said was true for me. in our world the media tries to make it seem like enemies are all around us, but hat just isn't true. Most of us really don't have any enemies. I love this show
@@TheCoolreaper44 I took it to mean that having enemies is a choice. You might be someone's "enemy" inadvertently, but it is your choice if they are your enemy or not. Being hateful towards others or choosing to use violence is just that, a choice. And choosing to have no enemies is what is actually a noble goal, not fighting.
The Farmland arc moved me in a way no other anime/manga did, the development Thorfinn made him one of my favourite characters in the series.Without going into spoilers I'll just say Thorfinn inspired me to be a much better person even halfway through S2 he already became a hero to me and someone I want to be just like even more so by the end of it, and the words "We have no enemies, no one has enemies" will ring through my head forever.
all thorfinn did was transform from a vengeance nut to your average "talk no jutsu solves everything" protagonist i dont see how that's so lifechanging
@Whoryu_ once you start commenting on multiple places with points that completely invalidate and miss the entire seasons message, you just start looking ridiculous lol. They drive home so largely that thorfinn just wants to try everything possible before having to resort to violence. While acknowledging that the world they live in is the most unwelcoming of that view there is. If it was some talk no jutsu crap, thorfinn and snake never would have had to fight, Garda would not have been killed, and the entire war on the farm would have also not happened.
I gave Season 2 a break because of the change of pace, saw a video called “You don’t understand Vinland saga”, finished Season 2 and am in tears. It’s a MASTERPIECE. The heart, soul, depth in character development is completely unparalleled and gives an inspirational message. Master class writing. 10/10
Vinland saga is the first piece of entertainment to make me cry not because I was sad, but because of how beautiful it was. The last 2 episodes of season 2 were genuine 10/10 masterpieces to me. It was all just so beautifully put together and concluded
So relatable, this feeling when a moment in a film is so well done, that you shed a tear. I remember that happened to me during pirates of the Caribbean, when Cutler Beckett died
I remember reading all this and still being captivated by the story of a man who lost his purpose and his reason to exist and live long enough to gain a new reason to live. I couldn't do that, I know I'm not strong enough to do that, but I want to.
@@shamstamDon't let this distract you from the fact that I get bullied because my classmates think my videos are the worst. Please don't agree, dear Axel
Thorfinn didn't just remake himself because he was unhappy with the person he used to be, he was literally forced to because Askeladd's death left him empty with no life purpose or reason for living. You shouldn't compare yourself to Thorfinn, as his story and development is as revolutionary as it gets, bred only from a truly sorrowful & traumatic life. Olmar is actually a far more relatable character who discovers who he is, who he actually wants to be & his raw understanding of courage and honor. I found Olmar's story to almost be more realistic & ordinary but also nearly as compelling as Thorfinn's own journey of self-discovery as Olmar learns simply by watching Thorfinn's bold actions and the suffering that war has on the people around him.
Just finished season 2. I’m so glad that someone else understands how magnificent this story is. The transition from this blood thirsty child to this reborn person is some of the best story telling ever.
the transition legit lasted 5 seconds, he went to hell and became a different person overnight, how the fuck are you going to make a story about growing as a person and shit and just skip the growing as a person par like what?
@@zezanje1 he was dealing with the ghosts of his past before that just cause new guy only sees it a small amount at first doesn't mean he hasn't been having nightmares for years and it gives all the context needed to come to that conclusion
@@zezanje1 What? We've been following him for 6-7 eps by that point getting to know his thoughts. We learn that he's been suffering from the regrets and horrors that he committed. That ep focused on him accepting what he did and still trying to move forward. He was already suffering constantly by that point.
It wasn't a risk, they took the source martial and turned it into a beautiful animation. Vinland saga is one of the best written manga out there. Reading it I knew a lot of people would drop off after season one. Though those who stay are in for an amazing tale.
@BlazingInfernape8 massive cope. Askeladds death was the most intense climax the series has ever reached. Canutes 180 in the middle of battle was more satisfying character development than anything I've seen after season 1 and the tragic death of his servant was more downbeat than anything that came after. It was PEAKLAND saga in season 1 and midland saga for everything after
After watching season 2, my view of anime changed. I don't think any other anime can make me appreciate it's content as much as that one season. It brought me to tears each episode between ep 9 and 23. The emotional impact of this season is something I won't forget. Season 2 also made going back and watching season 1 more impactful.
The manga is so great as well, the tone change is absolutely insane and the way the story is told is amazing. They went from nuts to buts action into a more philosophical perspective. Also amazing art.
I've read the entire Vinland Saga manga and yeah the drastic alternate pace and flow could turn off people but the story and art is genuinely amazing. A Japanese manga artist makes probably the greatest ancient Nordic storytelling in recent times, alongside The Northman of course.
Season 2 genuinely made me think about life in a new perspective. It makes you question your own actions and for that I appreciate this season so much more. It's a shame it didn't have as much hype as the first season...
I'm writing a visual novel that's kinda going in reverse of your take on season 2. It's supposed to show how one who brushes off their past will easily be crushed by it, even someone with power and support and love. The protag is a teen who has experienced a comically large amount of trauma, but after many years of torture and a few of retribution, he kinda swept it under the rug, finding peace, money, riches, and a view of how the types of people he stayed far away from and automatically hated weren't all that bad. That is until a turning point when lose ends break the chain, and the character gets dragged back into that hole of darkness. The ending also has a huge purpose as a moral moving forward for the audience and the protagionst.
To be honest, if you did not thought about your own actions before... Then there was something wrong with you, because it is an common sense and for that purpose therapists exist. So it would be better to schedule one sitting.
@@__SiD__ I'm not saying that i never thought about my actions prior to watching season 2. Sometimes, it just helps you to view things from a different point of view.
Seeing Thorfinn sort of transform from a revengeful and crude kid to this calm and peaceful man is something I just loved about this anime, truly one of my favorite animes of all time
@@FinnishCrystal it's rare when a seinen gets this big, that's why people can't seem to understand whats in front of them, and only focus on the big fights forgetting why is being fought. It's like thinking Griffith is just pure evil, forgetting all the character development he goes through before turning into Femto, or thinking Luffy is the same guy that jumped out of the barrel 1000 episodes later. Loss and gain change people, and sometimes a character needs to lose to gain something, and then turning more evil or more human.
I remember reading the farm arc after season one just ended, and I couldn't believe the character development and depth of Thorfinn, and all the intense situations him and Einar went through. Charlie is right when he said other anime dont explore character depth on this level, because ive yet to see it replicated.
And sadly there's a reason we don't get it, because you have such a big percentage of viewers in the anime scene that just want Dragonball fights constantly without break, and if they don't get that they'll complain non stop.
Yeah, most anime is just about quantity. They want a cast of 30 characters that each are assigned tropes and archetypes because it's unrealistic to write that many properly.
Just finished Vinland season 2. I actually can’t believe the retards saying it’s bad. It is absolutely amazing. I waited for all of the episodes to come out so I could binge them. If you watch season 1 and then season 2 right after it is the most airtight narrative I’ve ever witnessed. This is one of the most impressive anime I’ve ever seen. I can feel that people aren’t even taking in the deep message this show flawlessly presents. All they care about is “Omg when is thorfinn gonna get angry and look badass again, this season is boring! dropped!” At this point in the story,Thorfinn grows up. He’s outgrown his animosity towards the world. This is a classic case of audience immaturity. Classic weebs doing what they do best. Sitting on their ass living their lives through a character, and when that character actually matures they cannot no longer emulate them due to the maturity they lack themselves.
Calling people retards and going on a rant means you havent really taken the messages of the show into your own life. You are right in what you say, but I just found it a bit ironic how you did it
Hahaha cope I watched both season in 1 week S1 took 2 days, 5 days to sit through the most boring piece of media I ever watched in s2 I'm glad so many people dropped the show all together we will never come back
I just finished season 2 and I thought it was way better than season 1, which was also great. It was so moving and different to other popular animals atm. The writing and character development is unreal.
Vinland Saga season 2 was so so perfect, I’ve never cried at so many episodes of an anime. I am so invested in it and I’m so happy you’re talking about it.
Vinland saga s2 is so good because it flips your perspective on s1 so much, and it really drives home it's message by first idolizing the classic viking rampage before forcing you to stare at the devestation that creates. Thorfinns new ideology is so interesting because an entire season was dedicating to setting up his past. Thors had the same ideology, but compared to Thorfinn you kinda brush him off in the first episode as being naive in not killing when threatened, it's when Thorfinns realizes he was right that you do aswell. And having any show flip your perspective in that way is worth gold. I also honestly don't know why people find s2 boring. Yeah there's not a lot of action, but a lot of shit is happening, and if you genuely liked s1 you should see that
Idk I hated Thorfinn from season 1 despite enjoying the action but the best parts of season 1 to me was always the characters and dialog that's where it truly shined. The overall story especially the second half with Askeladds whole background canute awakening and Askeladds death etc all the best parts to where I was worried without Askeladd it wouldnt be as good as season 1, although I was always expectjng at least a 9/10 for season 2
So after watching this video, i decided to give vinland saga a shot. Season 1 plot about revenge wasn’t necessarily the first time ive seen about it. But throughout season 1, we saw depth behind the characters were going through with the raids and the politics. For season 2, it did a full 180. From some kid who is filled with anger and rage to kill the man he’s been essentially living with and killing for to then become someone who lost themselves as a person who wants redemption from his sins and becomes a pacifist, it was one of the most emotional journies i have witnessed. I binged season 2 in about 2 days and i cried in total of 10 times. Thorfinn is different compared to the other characters we have seen in naruto, one piece, bleach, dbz, AOT, etc. The anime is definitely up there to be one of the best written stories. I believe this is a great recommendation for people who love philosophical animes where it requires critical thinking and compassion. Thank you charlie for speaking about this anime ❤
I know the anime is far behind the manga, but I cried when I read chapter 191. One of the best moments in the entire story, I can’t wait for it to be animated.
I think the change in thorfinn, from being raised as "The son of Askeladd" back to being "The son of Thors" is what makes this season great. I think the main reason it got the hate that it did was because the first season attracted the shounen audience, thinking this was a shounen series, when in all actuality its a seinen. And if you don't want to sit through the complex character arcs of everyone on the farm, I can understand, but as an adult series, it kinda expects you to have a good attention span.
season 3 will attract the people that dropped s2. s3 is a mix of s1 and 2 so there is something for everyone. also if anyone missed thorkell get ready.
This anime played a part in my mental health as crazy as that sounds. I was going through a bad time and started thinking as everybody being against me. Stopped trusting people and just felt everyone was just bad. Started turning into a bit of an ass even. Vinland Saga actually played a part in getting me out of that mindset. It's crazy the lesson it actually teaches you.
Season 2 really made this show my favorite anime of all time. I sobbed at the finale and despite it not being as action-oriented this season, it had me on the edge of my seat and wanting to watch more.
I devoured the first season and I knew about the change of pace, but I was so surprised by how much tension they were able to build in the story despite that slower tempo. The episodes from beginning to end feature some of the best character writing I have ever seen, the conclusion was simply brilliant and it was the first thing on my to do list every Monday evening for its entire runtime. Masterclass in writing and an absolute masterpiece overall.
It's wasn't a change of pace but change of genre. Its like the next Jonny wick, with mama mia drama. So to those who like action, may not appreciate drama and feel catfish
Vinland saga has changed my life permanently. I want to become a better person and let go of regrets and grudges like Thorfinn has. It is an absolute 10/10 show and i recommend everyone who hasn't watched it to watch it.
The moment when Thorfin said to Canute that he'll run in order to avoid war with him was one of the most profound moments I've seen in any work of fiction. I almost wonder if there was anyone in history who had a similar story to Thorfinn. (Sorry if you haven't watched it)
thorfinn and canute coming to an agreement telling canute that he is going to build a nation different than his for the people who cannot live freely in his nation and tells him that the more he kills and pillages for his ultimate goal the more work he is leaving for him to build his nation was one of the most beautiful moments in any sort of media i’ve ever seen. canute acknowledging what an incredible man thorfinn is and pulling back all of his troops from the farm, downsizing his personal army so he doesn’t have to take over farms and tax his people, and saying that he finally found someone that isn’t against him in thorfinn made me cry tears of happiness. what a fucking incredible show man.
@@Urekyui think he means a real person similar to thorfinn in the sense that they turned from a murderous monster who hurts others for their own gain into a pacifist trying to atone for their sins and grow. One of my friends told me about either an african war criminal or dictator who grew sick of the violence he’s caused because of a crucial moment in his life and dedicated his entire life from that point on to atoning for his sins by de-escalating the current conflicts, helping his people, and giving his people the help they need to grow stronger together. I forgot his name though sadly
It’s a beautiful story. I’ve watched interviews of the author, and the way he talks about this work is wonderful. It’s a story about love and you feel the love and care that went into crafting it. It’s the only anime that I wait with bated breath to hear news on future releases. I’m tempted to give it a 10/10. I can’t praise it enough.
I've read the entire Vinland Saga manga and yeah the drastic alternate pace and flow could turn off people but the story and art is genuinely amazing. A Japanese manga artist makes probably the greatest ancient Nordic storytelling in recent times, alongside The Northman of course.😮
So many moments in season 2 that literally make you reevaluate what it means to be a man, to be a "true warrior". They managed to stretch out one characters morality struggles throughout a single season and didn't make it dry or repetitive. The 100 punches scene will be engrained in my brain for the rest of my life
It is a genuine masterpiece. It can not be overstated how perfect season 2 of Vinland Saga is, truly hope that more people will give it's second season a chance.
I loved season 2 but its still after few months only dubbed to episode 12 and most people including me arent gonna watch it in japanese after a season and a half of english dub
@@donkey6906it’s so worth the wait man. I started dub but didn’t have the patience to wait for greatness. Vinland saga is peak even in sub. I mean they’re Vikings, they wouldn’t be speaking your language anyways… at least that was the logic I used
The hardcover Mangas are absolutely gorgeous and amazing read as well as the anime. This is a unique story with so much heart. This story deserves a lot of praise, and I'm glad you gave it praise, Charlie
I was an avid supporter of Vinland Saga from the start and I am glad to hear its getting more recognition, especially after so many people cried about season 2 being "boring". Which is a shame, because its one of the best the industry has to offer.
vinland saga is far from the best the industry has to offer, the show was still just shallow even after yhey decided to make the entire show about this guy and his emotions and hoe good of a lerson he is etc
It's not easy to tell a good story about pacifism, one that actually gets into the nitty gritty of philosophy. It's even harder to do it when set around violent viking history and not lose focus So I have a lot of respect to Makoto Yukimura for pulling it off, he's a great author and artist
Season one and two of Vinland saga gives me the same reaction of aot when it transitioned from 3 to 4. It goes from balls to the walls action, to character driven development and primarily more internal conflict. It's harsh contrasts between seasons within a show that really show how great the story really is.
@@OctavianAsixare you sure? At the start, most people thought they were watching a different show until Reiner showed up, the difference was there and it wasn’t that hard to notice either
I think the farmland saga arc was a flop because you definitely required a certain degree of emotional maturity to truly be captivated by the fantastic character development of Thorfinn and company. Action is supposed to be fast-paced and interesting, but S2 was able to make every episode feel like 5 minutes with barely any action. It's a testament to how well written it is.
It's mainly edgy teens thinking that anything but violence is just lame. Literally the same as thorfinns 6 year old self. They miss that thorfinn never liked violence, he never liked fighting, he was just drowning in his own self destructive hate.
My thoughts as well. Most people hating on it are mostly shonen watchers who’s favorite anime is Naruto for all the action scenes. You need to be able to truly appreciate and understand the emotion behind season 2 to really understand how good it is.
@@dontask9000 Damn I love Naruto lol. I feel like you had an enormous pool of examples you could have picked from with shows that would have fit your point far better than Naruto. That said I agree with your main point. There are a lot of casual watchers that are in it for the 'Transformers-experience' of good action and little emotional complexity. Which is completely fine, I too like to occasionally shut off my brain and enjoy something simple and easily digestible but what I hate is that these same people then act like the show that simply isn't their type of show is somehow bad or boring for it.
I never expected him to say Vinland Saga, I've been reading it for years now so I feel like its sufficiently hyped in my head. Its always had its crown as one of the big classic seinen manga. I'm really happy anime viewers are starting to see why, I love how the mangaka is getting all this fresh love for his work. He seems so excited to interact with an international audience too
@@oliver-04he did say he knew it was well known, i think by him saying underrated he means over hated, as although it is well known, season 2 split peoples opinions into either it’s the best show, or that the direction they took was a horrible decision and they should go back to action.
I cant wait for season 3, Ive kept up with the comic as its come out and its just such an amazing journey. They portrayed it so well in this season I hope they continue.
I've been absolutely captivated by this series throughout its entirety. I just finished S2 and I think this anime has changed me. Brought me to tears multiple times and changed my perspective on life, violence and peace. It's a masterpiece.
Vinland Saga will end up in my top 3. It touches aspects of my existence I didn't think could be accurately captured and portrayed, least by an anime. This show shocked me, for good reason, and I'm glad you made this video because it does deserve more recognition.
We also have to talk about Einar, another character that hits one Thorfinn's life, a brother that doesn't share the same blood type, or any connection... How Einar was the first one to forgive the one that killed his family, how he was able to manage the fury and help Thorfinn to be a better person.
I was so hooked on season 2, and I couldn't just wait for episodes to be dropped every week. So I started reading the manga. It was my first manga experience. I've never even read a comic book in my life.
This timing is amazing lmao. Vinland Saga season 1 made it into my top 3 anime. Then I read the farmland saga arc. (Season 2) Loved it watched the first 3 episodes and stopped watching. Just didn’t have much time. But I went and binged the entire season 2 yesterday (day of release for this video before I seen you posted this) and honestly. It is literally phenomenal. Seeing it animated compared to reading it is amazing. Some slight differences but good ones. Every character seemed so deep and fleshed out and paced amazing. How can an author give us so much character depth in every character in 1 season. Everyone on the farm and Canute are such great characters. They really showed depth in even side characters so we’ll. The voice acting was amazing. And something about how the author writes the dialogue. I want to emphasize THE DIALOGUE in Vinland Saga is possibly better than any dialogue in any anime.
@@shazam2323 it’s very well written and intriguing content. Not everyone watches shows for mindless action or comedy. The plot is the closest thing to perfect you can get as well as world building, character development, dialogue, and other things. I enjoy shows for being entertaining and fun to watch as well but sometimes it’s nice to get a really good well written piece.
Don't forget, the songs they've chosen for the openings from season 1 and 2 from Survive Said the Prophet, are so good. Some of my favorite openings, and the band itself has become a new favorite of mine to listen to.
I've only heard survive said the prophet from banana fish (also some of my favs) so that makes me happy to hear they used them for vinland saga as well
For me, the Farmland Arc in S2 is one of the best arcs in anime/manga, although I can understand why people dropped it after S1. I remember reading it in the manga a few years and being blown away by it and the anime was the same. The fact that it's 'only' sold 7 million copies is criminal given some of the garbage out there that sells 10x as much.
@@kostasspirou1010 I can't wait! I watched season 1 some time ago thinking that was gonna be it, but then I found season 2 once it was 15 episodes in so the show was never ruined for me at any moment whatsoever
now im remembering more about the article i read, it was saying that the reason they were considering not doing season 3 was because the manga wasn't being purchased enough/getting enough love? kind of odd but I just saw an official twitter post where at the end it says "Thorfinn's journey will continue" so that gives me a lot of hope!
We have to get a season 3 because Sigurd deserves to be on tv, after Thorfinn he gets some of the greatest character development on the show. This and Ranking of Kings both made me cry so much. I pray it’s greatness is recognised.
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The farmland arc proved that anime can thrive without fight scenes, it’s deep writing, themes, characters, all of it is done so perfectly
I hope Vinland brings about more studios to be brave enough to animate Seinen-genre mangas. Beserk deserves a whole new anime revamp. Vagabond deserves a big studio taking it.
@@daniaaalOr Vagabond could do a Mushoku Tensei and make their own studio.
@@daniaaalI think this actually changed the anime industry. Anime will now be dominated with seinen
The anime didn’t thrive. It was boring especially the farm simulator arc
@@ghost_trapz5932Tf are you talking are you 12 can't you watch a show without a generic fight scene every 5 seconds
Charlie talking to his dog and the dog responding back by squeaking his toy is just perfect
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@@SuperYtc1 2:21
Almost too perfect hmm
@@achillessproles6364 it’s staged 😨
Thorfinn smiling at episode 10 when he and Einar pushed down the last tree was so satisfying
We just want him to be happy bro
@@thorfinnthegoatmchaha facts
@@thorfinnthegoatmcon God
Szn 2 sucks
@@Queef_Chief to each their own
Vinland Saga is an all-timer, a classic. And if you disagree with me, that's fine. I have no enemies.
I'm your enemy now😈😈👹
@@wise_Man_Yerikyikes.
u literally can´t Bro
its useless
ur not wise
@@wise_Man_Yerik
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bro might be... the true warrior.😢
Seeing Thorfinn's development from a crude, vengence-filled kid to a peaceful, patient man was truly amazing.
@BadTakeRisan It was truly amazing to see
It really is, kinda reminds me of berserk's Guts on how poetic it gets with the caracter growth, something you can only see in seinen manga
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I think canutes development has been pretty cool to watch also. It's like thorfinn and canute switched personalities almost. And also switched haircuts lol.
spoilers bro
The scene where Thorfinn had to crawl up a hole while holding all the people he's killed was the most powerful emotional moment I have ever experienced while watching a show.
The best part was Askeladd's presence. A scene in hell would have been incomplete without him.
Can't agree more. I cried bro fr
Me too
episode 9... yeah its painful
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This is facts. Should be one of the most talked about anime’s right now. So glad you’re raising awareness for this masterpiece
Love your reactions!
Have you watched S2
@@harshraj9266they did
is that the goat
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When Askeladd asked Thorfinn "How will you live long after I'm gone?" As he was dying that genuinely changed me.
And you see in Thorfinn´s eyes that he never thought about it either.
No it didn’t
Makes you take askeladd as a father and thorfinn as his son and you are in thorfinn's position...... I can't imagine myself in this situation where my father asks me how will you live after im gone..........
An anime dedicating a whole season for character development is something that deserves insane levels of respect.
sure if the rest of the anime made any sense and was half decent
too bad that arc is the highest point in the series and the rest of the manga falls off hard after
@@Stryver103Lol I disagree! 😂
I don’t know how anyone can like what Throfinn becomes…. A weak naive bxtch that gets taken advantage of. I liked him better when he was a bloodthirsty warrior, I understand the guy needed character development but the way they did it was so…. Gay 😂 he’s some soft soy boi now so no thanks
@@Stryver103 Y do u think it falls off? Cos the next arc has more comedy? I've heard that the next arc has more comedy cos the final arc gets dark.
The most beautiful thing about the season was how the author defined courage. That shit hit deep. I also like the emphasis on the little things, which is very in theme since Thorfinn also gets to learn to appreciate those in this season.
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@@alexthemovie L
aw it isnt the dowardly dog
Whats interesting is the violence in season 1 was very normalized but season 2 they made the violence come off more disturbing.
no its actually pretty "power of friendship" generic
You have to be a certain level of maturity to appreciate season 2. People who haven’t experienced a lot yet won’t be able to appreciate a hero rectifying his actions rather than constantly going to the next unjustified slaughter
Exactly I still remember reading the manga years ago when I was 12 and I found it kinda boring just like how some people see season two but now that I'm older and more mature I see how this show is a masterpiece
for sure, I actually lost interest towards the end of season 1 and came back a year later for season 2 and the story telling is amazing
@@iamtrax5045this is exactly what happened to me was not able to finish season 1 on first watch
That's how I feel about it. Ten years ago I would have called this a "pussy show" because they dared to show a perspective that isn't "Hey isn't it badass how angry he looks while killing??? He's just like Erin Jager OMG!!!" like all the vapid 12 year olds who idolize young Thorfinn.
That's some heavy elitist behavior my brother in christ.
If Vinland Saga S2 requires to have a certain level of maturity to watch then you're... quite deluded
I did really like the duality of Canute and Thorfinn this season too. They're perfect foils for each other.
My favorite part tbh
I love the fact there both after the same thing just took 2 different paths and they both realize that
Arnheid's story is one of the most tragic and heartwrenching story and it sets up thorfinn's development and motivations perfectly
Yeah that was great except for the part where she took 3 episodes to die
@@naeemakbarakashfr bro died like 3 times
I agree that her arc is great but like she blue balled the fuck out of Einar, she's so fucking lucky Einar was a great person until she died, I liked Ketil until he decided to beat Arnheid despite her being pregnant with his baby and even poked at the baby, he can suck my dick.
@@naeemakbarakash and gardar, like ok its sad but i dont care about the dude that much, i dont need a 20 minute death scene for him
@@mouse7965 Maybe it's just me but I really liked gardar and his death. I thought it was one of the most emotional episodes in the entire series.
Gotta love when the pets give their thoughts on the news too
Tetra made a solid point
You gotta love them pets :)
@@MidnightDrive589you also gotta love the bots, I mean look at all the little cutie patooties 'exposing' charlie. Just look at them go! (There are 17 disabled children in my basement) 😊
If any of the people behind these bots died LITERALLY NOONE would shed a tear
I have never liked a show so much that I picked up reading it. I was surprised at how the story changes the next arc(after season 1), but it made me really think deeply about my own life, and how I want to live. Season 3 is going to bring GREAT things for the show too. I cannot wait to see more of this story animated.
does the manga go past season 2??
@@pinkleWeenkies oh yea, there's enough of the manga out to have about 4 seasons right now. Just over 200 chapters
@@TheNotoriousVamp WHAATT, with that end I was almost sure that nothing more is coming out
@@rajchopra3868 well it is called Vinland saga and there's been a lack of Vinland so far.
@@rajchopra3868the end implied more was coming
Vinland Saga season 2 is the best piece of media that I’ve consumed this year. This show absolutely blew me away with its storytelling, it’s music and the message behind it. This story actually encouraged me in a way that few pieces of media ever have. This story makes you want to be a better person. It’s absolutely beautiful to see and it deserves the highest of praise.
Can't wait for season 3
@@user-xt7vj2im7g me neither, what a beautiful anime this is. The music and animations just elevate the art of this story.
Can't wait for season 4!
Jeez thank you for making this. Vinland Saga is like no anime I've seen. The scene where Snake was reading the Bible passage about loving your enemies to old master was an absolute masterpiece because it was such a stark contrast to the lives they were living at the time. So much thought has been put into every crevice of this show and it's paid off. I cried so many times throughout the second season. It's easily at the top of my list, and it might even become my favorite anime.
Fedora king
I've ignored it for a while....it appears I have made a grave error
Season 2 isn’t meant for today’s tiktok age
man if u really be crying over shit like that u got hella emotional trauma
Sounds like sympathy for the devil garbage.
Vinland Saga as a whole is just a masterpiece. The themes and overall message of the story is just awesome. The character development is PEAK. There’s a reason Berserk, Vinland Saga, and Vagabond are highly appreciated.
Season 2 was what made this my favourite anime. This isn't an anime for 13 - 15 year olds. This has to be advertised to an older demographic, anime audience are mostly into shonen and aren't matured enough to appreciate and enjoy this masterpiece
Buddy is definitely 16 😂😂😂
@@peet4444 I'm 25
doesnt change the fact that steins gate and clannad better🤣🤣
@@gokusolosnocap you forgot to state it's your opinion
@@lilypoo2222 its an opinion thats simply true
It's surprising so many people were taken off guard by Season 2. From the very beginning, it was always "you have no enemies"
Yup, literally episode 1
It’s why I absolutely love this season. Everything ends up coming full circle and it makes season 1 that much more meaningful.
Yeah i dont know its just boring. I personally didnt spend enough time with thorfinn to really care about his "wait killing bad?" Ephiphany. Berserk has done and is doing it better.
@@joyboy6752 I guess if you don't connect with the character, the story wouldn't hit as hard. I can't speak much on Berserk's world, but a part of the huge impact of Thorfinn realizing he has no enemies is because of how warrior-oriented the Viking Age was. Declaring you won't hurt people is pretty insane in a time as violent as that
@@joyboy6752 It's your opinion. It changed thousands of people's perspective including mine though.
I enjoy Charlie leaving his pets in his videos, even if they interrupt his train of thought and break his flow. He just goes with it and it's nice. I like that.
Same
@realyozur never gonna have fame. Give up
Have you ever been out of your parents basement?
I just imagine there's canned laughter when io or his dogs walk in the room
Same Sylvie snow same..
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As a Vinland Saga Manga reader, I knew a lot of people were going to be turned off by season 2 and its drastic change of pace. Which is unfortunate, because the story that unfolds is very beautiful. Makoto Yukimura is a very insightful individual, and his art is quite amazing. I'm glad that he's able to share it with the rest of us.
when season 1 ended i remember seeing a comment saying that S2 was going to be alot different and very slow, glad i did because i was ready for the change and loved it
Honestly this is me. I loved season 1 because I like to watch anime for story + action, and s1 of vinland saga perfected both. So although I can respect the story and can respect people's opinions of season 2, i just genuinely didnt enjoy it because it felt like I got vertigo from the suddenness of thorfinn going from an edgy depressed fighter mc to a jesus christ pacifist wannabe in the space of (from the audience perspective) literally no time at all because we didnt see any of the timeskip content.
The only thing about season 2 that disappointed me was that the art seemed lower effort and less detailed
i got the entire experience of it on the anime, and i genuinely loved what the author did. Vinland Saga is probably one of the most fantastic anime i've ever watched, and I can't wait to see what they have in store
@@chivzlol8649I've read the entire Vinland Saga manga and yeah the drastic alternate pace and flow could turn off people but the story and art is genuinely amazing. A Japanese manga artist makes probably the greatest ancient Nordic storytelling in recent times, alongside The Northman of course.😂
As a manga reader its gets even better with thornfinns development and struggle to keep his promise. its beautiful honestly ❤
Vinland saga is an insanely amazing anime. It is the best show ever of any medium. Honestly it has completely changed my outlook on life and Thorfinn is an inspiration like no other. I cried like crazy a couple of times because Thorfinn is such a good and strong person.
Best show ever ? You and like 6 people might agree 😂
@@JOK3RC4RDx I don't think it's far fetched. The story is one of the best stories ever told, and Thorfinn is one of the best characters in fiction.
@@JOK3RC4RDx I'm not gonna take the word of someone who has a playlist listed as "Alpha" seriously about anything. 20 years old much?
@@Kjernekar yeah you people have completely changed what the word alpha means nowadays 3 years ago when I made that playlist it meant striving to be the best version of yourself thank god I did
@@JOK3RC4RDx the fact that you need youtube guides to be a better person is the issue here.
Season 2 made my jaw drop... The portrayal of going from a hollow man to a man with a purpose in life was so incredibly done with perfect pacing too. It truly is the best season of vinland yet for me.
Agreed.
Season 2 is even better then Season 1.
But you couldn't make a Show just like Season 2. Season 1 needed to happen.
@@KiTho06 definitely man
@@KiTho06t's just not tho, I completely understand where u guys are coming from and I love season 2. But saying season 1 wasn't as good is a straight up lie. There's a reason so many people dropped it, season 1 felt almost magical with the way the storytelling was done. The violence and gore of the world was sold amazingly through the action. Like it or not that is what many people fell in love with the show for. As much as I like season 2, it isn't better than season 1, at least not in my opinion. Not even close.
WRONG season 1 was great season 2 is a boring dollar store story about redemption and purpose. None of it was inspiring or fun to watch there's tons of these stories out there but season 1 WAS special it it's own way it wasn't just an action anime it was action mercenary adventure and viking court intrigue and THAT is special. I want more of THAT not the crybaby "waaaa killing is bad" crap they force-fed you for the rest of the manga
@@hamooozmugharbel if you just like the fights, the go watch naruto or one piece or some shit that has good fights in it, the author of vinland had a vision in his story and wanted to take it somewhere special, vinland saga is not a shonen anime where the main character gets a boost every fight, it's an anime about life and it's turning points and how a person can change after his sole purpose is gone, Gigguk's interview with the author explains a lot, so I do recommend watching it to understand why it took that turn of events in it's story.
Thank you for making this, Charlie. Vinland can't end for trying something so gutsy. A really special show.
He said its underappreciated and nobody talks about it but it is literally the most popular anime right now. The most popular meme right now "i have no enemies" even people from non-anime communities know about it. It is way more appreciated too from back then when season 1 came out.
@@armaanb.6566it’s quote is trending but not the anime and many people have dropped it in season 2 saying it’s farming simulator and boring
@@armaanb.6566 nah the most popular anime right now is def oshi no ko and demon slayer. Oshi no ko has crazy stream numbers and it’s opening hit top billboard charts. Vinland def got overshadowed like crazy, yea the i have no enemies meme got fairly popular but most people quoting the meme and giving it more popularity likely never even watched the show.
Charlie's rant isn't true, people are talking about it, it's just people who think it's not are the one's who live in a bubble echo chamber Charlie included.
The irony here is that Charlie is too full of himself to realize his own hypocrisy here.
Season 1:”i mean, it’s alright, typical anime type shit”
Season 2: “REAL SHIT, it blasts season 1 out of the water, absolute banger”
Ok bro season 1 was badass but season 2 was fire too
Him following and fighting along the man who killed his father just to get strong enough to kill him is normal anime shit I mean ig
@@stony2x386 it is bro lol. Usual dramatic anime shi, holding grudges and all that. Also the mf naruto runs, that sealed it for me lol
@@montblancnoland4034 just saying most of season 1 I've seen in other shows before. But season 2 was unique
Episode 9, “Oath,” is one of the few times an anime series has brought tears to my eyes. Genuinely brilliant and emotionally satisfying storytelling.
You know an episode is perfect when you can remember its name.
i couldn't agree more, probably one of my favourite episode in anime period
I hurts me to hear that season 2 was underrated, its so beautiful. I knew people fell off season 2 but i didnt know it was this underrated, Thorfinn's saga of coming to terms with his feelings and learning his dads message is so fucking well done i loved every second of it.
I didn’t even realise it was underrated 😅 I’ve loved it so much more than the first season
It's not underrated. It's sitting at 29th of all time on MAL and a very small ratio dropped it compared to most shows. Idk wtf Charlie is on about.
I think the only reason people are calling this underrated is because many of the people aren't in the anime community. Vinland Saga has been well known for years, even being called one of the top three seinen, along with Berserk and Vagabond. So it isn't underrated, people just aren't really in an anime community
@@exnecross3141in the grand scheme of animes, the vinland saga really isnt popular. In fact, it was so unpopular this second season was barely made. Ofc its a lot more popular in the west, but where the real money is back in japan, people arent rly interested so it barely receives any attention
@@exnecross3141
A very small ratio dropped it?
8.7 with 700k+ members
8.8 with 100k+ members
With members included you can actually see how underrated season 2 is.
I can confidently say that I cried like a little baby boy towards the end of s2, I've never had an anime character get to me like Thorfin did, plus the Manga creator is such a wholesome person I can't help but feel grateful he has blessed us with this work of art, his other work ( Planetes ) is amazing as well completely different vibe
please dont compare planetes to this slop
@@zezanje1you 12? Can’t watch something if there’s not constant fighting and fan service?
Oh shit I had no idea he did Planetes! I loved that anime!
Ep 17 was heartbreaking.
the end of episode 23 was so good. the conversation between thorfinn and einar at arnheids grave with that beautiful ost and then the poem afterwards. Beautifully written season I almost cried too.
Never seen the show before but the way he talks about protagonist development reminds me a lot of the development Guts has throughout Berserk and anything that well crafted is something to always appreciate.
Vinland Saga is considered one of the "Big 3" of seinen manga along with Vagabond and of course Berserk.
If you like the mature story telling of Berserk you should find both of the other two fantastic.
@@axelthesotBerserk definitely is the best of the three by a massive margin but Vinland saga at least has some stuff going for it. Like I guess having the best line delivery. Vagabond only for artstyle
@@Ballsackgaminur opinion
@@boi2554 correct opinion
@@Ballsackgamindisagree, berserk is my favourite manga of all time, but it’s not by some massive margin. The slave arc of Vinland saga might be my just be my favourite arc from all 3 (mind you it’s really close w/golden age and FOTME)
Askeladd is the best written Character ever.
Idk about that bruh💀
@@MasterMike_ oh sorry i forgot ur the best written character ever.
"I have no enemies"
This show turned into one of my top favorite animes
It's just another level ❤
Bro this line made me reflect on my life. And for the first time I realized what Thorfinn said was true for me. in our world the media tries to make it seem like enemies are all around us, but hat just isn't true. Most of us really don't have any enemies. I love this show
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I have no enemies isn't meant to be taken literally. Throughout season 3 thorfinn will consider this but ultimately will have to fight.
@@TheCoolreaper44 I took it to mean that having enemies is a choice. You might be someone's "enemy" inadvertently, but it is your choice if they are your enemy or not. Being hateful towards others or choosing to use violence is just that, a choice. And choosing to have no enemies is what is actually a noble goal, not fighting.
The Farmland arc moved me in a way no other anime/manga did, the development Thorfinn made him one of my favourite characters in the series.Without going into spoilers I'll just say Thorfinn inspired me to be a much better person even halfway through S2 he already became a hero to me and someone I want to be just like even more so by the end of it, and the words "We have no enemies, no one has enemies" will ring through my head forever.
'Farmland' arcs such as in vagabond too will move you philosophicaly as well. Really recommend
which development does he have in the first 6 episodes? Its the same „me sad“ bs over and over again
read vagabond
all thorfinn did was transform from a vengeance nut to your average "talk no jutsu solves everything" protagonist i dont see how that's so lifechanging
@Whoryu_ once you start commenting on multiple places with points that completely invalidate and miss the entire seasons message, you just start looking ridiculous lol. They drive home so largely that thorfinn just wants to try everything possible before having to resort to violence. While acknowledging that the world they live in is the most unwelcoming of that view there is. If it was some talk no jutsu crap, thorfinn and snake never would have had to fight, Garda would not have been killed, and the entire war on the farm would have also not happened.
I gave Season 2 a break because of the change of pace, saw a video called “You don’t understand Vinland saga”, finished Season 2 and am in tears. It’s a MASTERPIECE. The heart, soul, depth in character development is completely unparalleled and gives an inspirational message. Master class writing. 10/10
Season 1 is just a prologue, just a prologue
Vinland saga is the first piece of entertainment to make me cry not because I was sad, but because of how beautiful it was. The last 2 episodes of season 2 were genuine 10/10 masterpieces to me. It was all just so beautifully put together and concluded
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So relatable, this feeling when a moment in a film is so well done, that you shed a tear. I remember that happened to me during pirates of the Caribbean, when Cutler Beckett died
Do y’all actually cry at shows? Damn maybe I’m watching the wrong things
@@od813 if there’s any show that will get you at least teary eyed, it’s definitely Vinland saga
@@vz8hliverified228 That or Grave of the Fireflies. If you ever want an anime movie to make you cry, that's the one.
I remember reading all this and still being captivated by the story of a man who lost his purpose and his reason to exist and live long enough to gain a new reason to live. I couldn't do that, I know I'm not strong enough to do that, but I want to.
You've held on up until this point, who knows, maybe it won't be long till you find a new reason to live
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Thorfinn didn't just remake himself because he was unhappy with the person he used to be, he was literally forced to because Askeladd's death left him empty with no life purpose or reason for living. You shouldn't compare yourself to Thorfinn, as his story and development is as revolutionary as it gets, bred only from a truly sorrowful & traumatic life. Olmar is actually a far more relatable character who discovers who he is, who he actually wants to be & his raw understanding of courage and honor. I found Olmar's story to almost be more realistic & ordinary but also nearly as compelling as Thorfinn's own journey of self-discovery as Olmar learns simply by watching Thorfinn's bold actions and the suffering that war has on the people around him.
Came back to let the masses know we did it...Vinland Saga Season 2 won best anime of the year. Well deserved.
The one phillosopical thing is what is love
Just finished season 2. I’m so glad that someone else understands how magnificent this story is. The transition from this blood thirsty child to this reborn person is some of the best story telling ever.
I wholeheartedly agree
the transition legit lasted 5 seconds, he went to hell and became a different person overnight, how the fuck are you going to make a story about growing as a person and shit and just skip the growing as a person par like what?
"ever" neckbeard who hates amazing live action
@@zezanje1 he was dealing with the ghosts of his past before that just cause new guy only sees it a small amount at first doesn't mean he hasn't been having nightmares for years and it gives all the context needed to come to that conclusion
@@zezanje1 What? We've been following him for 6-7 eps by that point getting to know his thoughts. We learn that he's been suffering from the regrets and horrors that he committed. That ep focused on him accepting what he did and still trying to move forward. He was already suffering constantly by that point.
It wasn't a risk, they took the source martial and turned it into a beautiful animation. Vinland saga is one of the best written manga out there. Reading it I knew a lot of people would drop off after season one. Though those who stay are in for an amazing tale.
For the manga it was definitely a risk when it was first serialized
Naw man I everything after askelads death is completely mid
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@@hamooozmugharbeleverything in s1 us completely mediocre and nothing special
@BlazingInfernape8 massive cope. Askeladds death was the most intense climax the series has ever reached. Canutes 180 in the middle of battle was more satisfying character development than anything I've seen after season 1 and the tragic death of his servant was more downbeat than anything that came after. It was PEAKLAND saga in season 1 and midland saga for everything after
It is insane to me people didn’t give this season a chance, it surpasses the first season. It is a master piece of character growth and development.
After watching season 2, my view of anime changed. I don't think any other anime can make me appreciate it's content as much as that one season. It brought me to tears each episode between ep 9 and 23. The emotional impact of this season is something I won't forget. Season 2 also made going back and watching season 1 more impactful.
The manga is so great as well, the tone change is absolutely insane and the way the story is told is amazing. They went from nuts to buts action into a more philosophical perspective. Also amazing art.
I've read the entire Vinland Saga manga and yeah the drastic alternate pace and flow could turn off people but the story and art is genuinely amazing. A Japanese manga artist makes probably the greatest ancient Nordic storytelling in recent times, alongside The Northman of course.
I hate that they skipped them getting to greece, that was my only gripe but enjoyed reading the manga
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hated it
It kinda falls off hard for my after Baltic Sea War.
Season 2 genuinely made me think about life in a new perspective. It makes you question your own actions and for that I appreciate this season so much more. It's a shame it didn't have as much hype as the first season...
its because there wasnt too much action like in season 1 but that doesnt make it bad.
I'm writing a visual novel that's kinda going in reverse of your take on season 2. It's supposed to show how one who brushes off their past will easily be crushed by it, even someone with power and support and love. The protag is a teen who has experienced a comically large amount of trauma, but after many years of torture and a few of retribution, he kinda swept it under the rug, finding peace, money, riches, and a view of how the types of people he stayed far away from and automatically hated weren't all that bad. That is until a turning point when lose ends break the chain, and the character gets dragged back into that hole of darkness. The ending also has a huge purpose as a moral moving forward for the audience and the protagionst.
To be honest, if you did not thought about your own actions before... Then there was something wrong with you, because it is an common sense and for that purpose therapists exist. So it would be better to schedule one sitting.
@@__SiD__ I'm not saying that i never thought about my actions prior to watching season 2. Sometimes, it just helps you to view things from a different point of view.
What a load of crockery
Vinland saga and monster are the most important thing for humanity
If it's got a farming arc, you know it's good.
Vagabond ❤
@@Nandomo00 yes sir
Seeing Thorfinn sort of transform from a revengeful and crude kid to this calm and peaceful man is something I just loved about this anime, truly one of my favorite animes of all time
I believe its called character development. It's rare in today's mediums, but going from mercenary, to slave, to free man, changes a man.
@@DrMundo92its so rare that when people see it, a show "falls off" and the author "made a mistake"
@@FinnishCrystal it's rare when a seinen gets this big, that's why people can't seem to understand whats in front of them, and only focus on the big fights forgetting why is being fought. It's like thinking Griffith is just pure evil, forgetting all the character development he goes through before turning into Femto, or thinking Luffy is the same guy that jumped out of the barrel 1000 episodes later. Loss and gain change people, and sometimes a character needs to lose to gain something, and then turning more evil or more human.
I remember reading the farm arc after season one just ended, and I couldn't believe the character development and depth of Thorfinn, and all the intense situations him and Einar went through. Charlie is right when he said other anime dont explore character depth on this level, because ive yet to see it replicated.
There's a reason why it's popular with older audiences like Berserk and Vagabond.
And sadly there's a reason we don't get it, because you have such a big percentage of viewers in the anime scene that just want Dragonball fights constantly without break, and if they don't get that they'll complain non stop.
@@TotalXPvideos People like that need a subway surfers montage to keep their own attention on life
@@TotalXPvideos so damn true
Yeah, most anime is just about quantity. They want a cast of 30 characters that each are assigned tropes and archetypes because it's unrealistic to write that many properly.
"A true anime doesn't need action." - Thors
Just finished Vinland season 2. I actually can’t believe the retards saying it’s bad. It is absolutely amazing. I waited for all of the episodes to come out so I could binge them. If you watch season 1 and then season 2 right after it is the most airtight narrative I’ve ever witnessed. This is one of the most impressive anime I’ve ever seen. I can feel that people aren’t even taking in the deep message this show flawlessly presents. All they care about is “Omg when is thorfinn gonna get angry and look badass again, this season is boring! dropped!” At this point in the story,Thorfinn grows up. He’s outgrown his animosity towards the world. This is a classic case of audience immaturity. Classic weebs doing what they do best. Sitting on their ass living their lives through a character, and when that character actually matures they cannot no longer emulate them due to the maturity they lack themselves.
Calling people retards and going on a rant means you havent really taken the messages of the show into your own life. You are right in what you say, but I just found it a bit ironic how you did it
Hahaha cope
I watched both season in 1 week
S1 took 2 days, 5 days to sit through the most boring piece of media I ever watched in s2
I'm glad so many people dropped the show all together we will never come back
@@OctavianAsixyou smell
I just finished season 2 and I thought it was way better than season 1, which was also great. It was so moving and different to other popular animals atm. The writing and character development is unreal.
@@brunchclub2996 and you're mad your favorite gaming turned into trash
Vinland Saga season 2 was so so perfect, I’ve never cried at so many episodes of an anime.
I am so invested in it and I’m so happy you’re talking about it.
Crying while watching anime is crazy💀
@@theepicjs5541bro I thought the same until watching Vinland saga
@@theepicjs5541 well I mean its the same thing as crying at a movie and a show
@@Starvona yea man Naruto was the first anime to make me cry
You cried at season 2 😭😭😭
Vinland saga s2 is so good because it flips your perspective on s1 so much, and it really drives home it's message by first idolizing the classic viking rampage before forcing you to stare at the devestation that creates. Thorfinns new ideology is so interesting because an entire season was dedicating to setting up his past. Thors had the same ideology, but compared to Thorfinn you kinda brush him off in the first episode as being naive in not killing when threatened, it's when Thorfinns realizes he was right that you do aswell. And having any show flip your perspective in that way is worth gold.
I also honestly don't know why people find s2 boring. Yeah there's not a lot of action, but a lot of shit is happening, and if you genuely liked s1 you should see that
W take
Idk I hated Thorfinn from season 1 despite enjoying the action but the best parts of season 1 to me was always the characters and dialog that's where it truly shined. The overall story especially the second half with Askeladds whole background canute awakening and Askeladds death etc all the best parts to where I was worried without Askeladd it wouldnt be as good as season 1, although I was always expectjng at least a 9/10 for season 2
it really shows how
much thor’s must have gone through to become that man
I just finished season 2 and seeing Thorfinn finally be happy, return home, and reinvent himself all brought a smile to my face.
So after watching this video, i decided to give vinland saga a shot. Season 1 plot about revenge wasn’t necessarily the first time ive seen about it. But throughout season 1, we saw depth behind the characters were going through with the raids and the politics. For season 2, it did a full 180. From some kid who is filled with anger and rage to kill the man he’s been essentially living with and killing for to then become someone who lost themselves as a person who wants redemption from his sins and becomes a pacifist, it was one of the most emotional journies i have witnessed. I binged season 2 in about 2 days and i cried in total of 10 times. Thorfinn is different compared to the other characters we have seen in naruto, one piece, bleach, dbz, AOT, etc. The anime is definitely up there to be one of the best written stories. I believe this is a great recommendation for people who love philosophical animes where it requires critical thinking and compassion. Thank you charlie for speaking about this anime ❤
I know the anime is far behind the manga, but I cried when I read chapter 191. One of the best moments in the entire story, I can’t wait for it to be animated.
"I forgive you"?
@@bonifacerai2717 yeah
@@bonifacerai2717 The best moment in the whole series for me.
I came for yuu after I read this
@@ketan6969 ???
I think the change in thorfinn, from being raised as "The son of Askeladd" back to being "The son of Thors" is what makes this season great. I think the main reason it got the hate that it did was because the first season attracted the shounen audience, thinking this was a shounen series, when in all actuality its a seinen. And if you don't want to sit through the complex character arcs of everyone on the farm, I can understand, but as an adult series, it kinda expects you to have a good attention span.
-AAAAA WHY DO YOU HAVE TWO 4s IN YOUR NAME-
That's why i tell people that they need to watch this when they're young and again when they're older
season 3 will attract the people that dropped s2. s3 is a mix of s1 and 2 so there is something for everyone.
also if anyone missed thorkell get ready.
@@FZJanimated I can't wait to see how they handle Hild, genuinely one of my favorite characters in the entire manga
its a good story but its way too boring to watch when there is no action at all and hes just being a slave for the entire season talking about a dream
@markizfun nah, there was action. The action was a slow burn but worth the build up.
The way that the mangaka made the reader/viewer feel bad for enjoying watching a child soldier slaughter people is the definition of genius.
This anime played a part in my mental health as crazy as that sounds. I was going through a bad time and started thinking as everybody being against me. Stopped trusting people and just felt everyone was just bad. Started turning into a bit of an ass even. Vinland Saga actually played a part in getting me out of that mindset. It's crazy the lesson it actually teaches you.
i was the same way, im currently undergoing change battling my thoughts everyday to become a better person.
Season 1 gave us the quote "You have no enemies"
Season 2 taught us what it really meant
2:26 a new meme is born
Season 2 really made this show my favorite anime of all time. I sobbed at the finale and despite it not being as action-oriented this season, it had me on the edge of my seat and wanting to watch more.
When he called Einar brother 😭
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When Thors said to Thorfinn you have no enemies that was the line that made me a true vinland saga fan
I devoured the first season and I knew about the change of pace, but I was so surprised by how much tension they were able to build in the story despite that slower tempo. The episodes from beginning to end feature some of the best character writing I have ever seen, the conclusion was simply brilliant and it was the first thing on my to do list every Monday evening for its entire runtime. Masterclass in writing and an absolute masterpiece overall.
It's wasn't a change of pace but change of genre. Its like the next Jonny wick, with mama mia drama. So to those who like action, may not appreciate drama and feel catfish
Vinland saga has changed my life permanently. I want to become a better person and let go of regrets and grudges like Thorfinn has. It is an absolute 10/10 show and i recommend everyone who hasn't watched it to watch it.
Season 2>>>>>>>>>>> Season 1
The fact that this "BORING" anime is my #1 anime of all time and no anime can replace it
The moment when Thorfin said to Canute that he'll run in order to avoid war with him was one of the most profound moments I've seen in any work of fiction. I almost wonder if there was anyone in history who had a similar story to Thorfinn. (Sorry if you haven't watched it)
@@UrekyuMLK was barely a pacifist
thorfinn and canute coming to an agreement telling canute that he is going to build a nation different than his for the people who cannot live freely in his nation and tells him that the more he kills and pillages for his ultimate goal the more work he is leaving for him to build his nation was one of the most beautiful moments in any sort of media i’ve ever seen.
canute acknowledging what an incredible man thorfinn is and pulling back all of his troops from the farm, downsizing his personal army so he doesn’t have to take over farms and tax his people, and saying that he finally found someone that isn’t against him in thorfinn made me cry tears of happiness.
what a fucking incredible show man.
@@Urekyui think he means a real person similar to thorfinn in the sense that they turned from a murderous monster who hurts others for their own gain into a pacifist trying to atone for their sins and grow.
One of my friends told me about either an african war criminal or dictator who grew sick of the violence he’s caused because of a crucial moment in his life and dedicated his entire life from that point on to atoning for his sins by de-escalating the current conflicts, helping his people, and giving his people the help they need to grow stronger together. I forgot his name though sadly
It’s a beautiful story. I’ve watched interviews of the author, and the way he talks about this work is wonderful. It’s a story about love and you feel the love and care that went into crafting it. It’s the only anime that I wait with bated breath to hear news on future releases. I’m tempted to give it a 10/10. I can’t praise it enough.
I've read the entire Vinland Saga manga and yeah the drastic alternate pace and flow could turn off people but the story and art is genuinely amazing. A Japanese manga artist makes probably the greatest ancient Nordic storytelling in recent times, alongside The Northman of course.😮
Penguinz0 imspires me.. My parents said if I get 15k followers They'd buy me a better camera for recording..begging u guys, literally begging..
This season is perfect for people actually working on themselves, aspiring to become better
Literally. Only those on self improvement will understand
You just have bad taste if Vinland isn’t in your top 5
So many moments in season 2 that literally make you reevaluate what it means to be a man, to be a "true warrior". They managed to stretch out one characters morality struggles throughout a single season and didn't make it dry or repetitive. The 100 punches scene will be engrained in my brain for the rest of my life
It is a genuine masterpiece. It can not be overstated how perfect season 2 of Vinland Saga is, truly hope that more people will give it's second season a chance.
I loved season 2 but its still after few months only dubbed to episode 12 and most people including me arent gonna watch it in japanese after a season and a half of english dub
@@donkey6906that’s a level of patience that I couldn’t fathom
Penguinz0 imspires me.. My parents said if I get 15k followers They'd buy me a better camera for recording..begging u guys, literally begging..
@@donkey6906it’s so worth the wait man. I started dub but didn’t have the patience to wait for greatness. Vinland saga is peak even in sub. I mean they’re Vikings, they wouldn’t be speaking your language anyways… at least that was the logic I used
i finished season 2 today. what a fucking masterpiece
me, i just finished it rn.. oh wow
The hardcover Mangas are absolutely gorgeous and amazing read as well as the anime. This is a unique story with so much heart. This story deserves a lot of praise, and I'm glad you gave it praise, Charlie
I was an avid supporter of Vinland Saga from the start and I am glad to hear its getting more recognition, especially after so many people cried about season 2 being "boring". Which is a shame, because its one of the best the industry has to offer.
The people calling it boring because “Thorfinn isn’t killing people” completely miss the point of the series
They just wanna see Thorfinn killing. So many people r pissed that he isn't murdering people anymore and apparently that makes him a "pussy".
@@anonisnoone6125 missing the whole message of the show at that point
vinland saga is far from the best the industry has to offer, the show was still just shallow even after yhey decided to make the entire show about this guy and his emotions and hoe good of a lerson he is etc
@@zezanje1it’s literally one of the big 3 of senin.
It's not easy to tell a good story about pacifism, one that actually gets into the nitty gritty of philosophy. It's even harder to do it when set around violent viking history and not lose focus
So I have a lot of respect to Makoto Yukimura for pulling it off, he's a great author and artist
Yeah but it’s also lame
@@Beyblade_worrior💀
@@Beyblade_worrioryeah lame just like your rot-stricken brain
I still love the current manga, doesn't need action to be amazing.
@@Beyblade_worriorbait
Vinland Saga is the BEST thing I have ever seen
Season one and two of Vinland saga gives me the same reaction of aot when it transitioned from 3 to 4. It goes from balls to the walls action, to character driven development and primarily more internal conflict. It's harsh contrasts between seasons within a show that really show how great the story really is.
AOT did it better
I didn't even notice it
Vinland just made me aware time and time again that NOTHING is happening
@@OctavianAsixare you sure? At the start, most people thought they were watching a different show until Reiner showed up, the difference was there and it wasn’t that hard to notice either
I think the farmland saga arc was a flop because you definitely required a certain degree of emotional maturity to truly be captivated by the fantastic character development of Thorfinn and company. Action is supposed to be fast-paced and interesting, but S2 was able to make every episode feel like 5 minutes with barely any action. It's a testament to how well written it is.
It's mainly edgy teens thinking that anything but violence is just lame. Literally the same as thorfinns 6 year old self. They miss that thorfinn never liked violence, he never liked fighting, he was just drowning in his own self destructive hate.
My thoughts as well. Most people hating on it are mostly shonen watchers who’s favorite anime is Naruto for all the action scenes. You need to be able to truly appreciate and understand the emotion behind season 2 to really understand how good it is.
@@dontask9000 Damn I love Naruto lol. I feel like you had an enormous pool of examples you could have picked from with shows that would have fit your point far better than Naruto.
That said I agree with your main point. There are a lot of casual watchers that are in it for the 'Transformers-experience' of good action and little emotional complexity. Which is completely fine, I too like to occasionally shut off my brain and enjoy something simple and easily digestible but what I hate is that these same people then act like the show that simply isn't their type of show is somehow bad or boring for it.
They're most probably young teens who mistook Vinland Saga for an edgy Shonen anime in the first place. I wouldn't blame them for that
@@coconut7117True. I could see why many teens may think so.
I never expected him to say Vinland Saga, I've been reading it for years now so I feel like its sufficiently hyped in my head. Its always had its crown as one of the big classic seinen manga. I'm really happy anime viewers are starting to see why, I love how the mangaka is getting all this fresh love for his work. He seems so excited to interact with an international audience too
he made a video about Vinland Saga years ago, its not like its an underground show
@@oliver-04he did say he knew it was well known, i think by him saying underrated he means over hated, as although it is well known, season 2 split peoples opinions into either it’s the best show, or that the direction they took was a horrible decision and they should go back to action.
@hagan2003 Season 2 is luckily rated properly, because it's a masterpiece. Overhated, but not overrated
Season 2 is what separates the boys from the men
honestly i really liked s2 more than s1
Charlie’s ass and tits analogy was perfect. The anime, and mangaka did 2 masterpieces in 2 different genres. That’s insane.
right
Vinland is such an amazing story, really happy to see Charlie giving it the love it deserves
I cant wait for season 3, Ive kept up with the comic as its come out and its just such an amazing journey. They portrayed it so well in this season I hope they continue.
I've been absolutely captivated by this series throughout its entirety. I just finished S2 and I think this anime has changed me. Brought me to tears multiple times and changed my perspective on life, violence and peace. It's a masterpiece.
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Vinland Saga is one of the best manga of all time and it’s been great to see all the love still going strong recently
It truly is. The morals behind it really changed my perspective on a lot of things
also, the author's other works are bangers too!
Man I had to re watch the garder vs snake and thorgil slaughtering the kings guards.
The love might still be strong but unfortunately it's crazy how a ton of people just straight up dropped the show cause it wasn't like season 1
@@xDbrad Yes but there’s a whole trend rn of the “I have no enemies” quote even season 1 didn’t seem to get a whole trend on it
Vinland Saga will end up in my top 3. It touches aspects of my existence I didn't think could be accurately captured and portrayed, least by an anime. This show shocked me, for good reason, and I'm glad you made this video because it does deserve more recognition.
Writing was amazing compared to most animes. Honestly it wasn’t that boring, it was just a shift in direction
it was boring
@@RareTS"I only like anime which has action"-🤓
@@RareTS We're not talking about your life homie, this comment section is about an anime. You don't gotta tell us how boring your existence is.
There's lot of shows that are talking about similar things tf you talking about
We also have to talk about Einar, another character that hits one Thorfinn's life, a brother that doesn't share the same blood type, or any connection... How Einar was the first one to forgive the one that killed his family, how he was able to manage the fury and help Thorfinn to be a better person.
I was so hooked on season 2, and I couldn't just wait for episodes to be dropped every week. So I started reading the manga. It was my first manga experience. I've never even read a comic book in my life.
This timing is amazing lmao. Vinland Saga season 1 made it into my top 3 anime. Then I read the farmland saga arc. (Season 2) Loved it watched the first 3 episodes and stopped watching. Just didn’t have much time. But I went and binged the entire season 2 yesterday (day of release for this video before I seen you posted this) and honestly. It is literally phenomenal. Seeing it animated compared to reading it is amazing. Some slight differences but good ones. Every character seemed so deep and fleshed out and paced amazing. How can an author give us so much character depth in every character in 1 season. Everyone on the farm and Canute are such great characters. They really showed depth in even side characters so we’ll. The voice acting was amazing. And something about how the author writes the dialogue. I want to emphasize THE DIALOGUE in Vinland Saga is possibly better than any dialogue in any anime.
Don't let this distract you from the fact that I get bullied because my classmates think my videos are the worst. Please don't agree, dear jj-ox7eh
@@shazam2323some people like the slower paced and less action based shows.
No
@@McnugGetsomebicthes yes
@@shazam2323 it’s very well written and intriguing content. Not everyone watches shows for mindless action or comedy. The plot is the closest thing to perfect you can get as well as world building, character development, dialogue, and other things. I enjoy shows for being entertaining and fun to watch as well but sometimes it’s nice to get a really good well written piece.
Don't forget, the songs they've chosen for the openings from season 1 and 2 from Survive Said the Prophet, are so good. Some of my favorite openings, and the band itself has become a new favorite of mine to listen to.
I just commented this, they are all fucking bangers.
When I heard people watch opening and listen to them 🤮
I've only heard survive said the prophet from banana fish (also some of my favs) so that makes me happy to hear they used them for vinland saga as well
bruhhh i saw this anime cuz you made this video and i didn't regret even one second of vinland saga.
I'm late but your commentary on this show honestly makes me respect you even more. You hit the nail right on the head for why it's such a good story.
For me, the Farmland Arc in S2 is one of the best arcs in anime/manga, although I can understand why people dropped it after S1. I remember reading it in the manga a few years and being blown away by it and the anime was the same. The fact that it's 'only' sold 7 million copies is criminal given some of the garbage out there that sells 10x as much.
I loved it until Gardar showed up, he fucked up everything by essentially causing Arnheid to make bad judgement calls that lead to her death.
Which manga are you referring to
Don't let this distract you from the fact that I get bullied because my classmates think my videos are the worst. Please don't agree, dear paul
I'M SO FUCKING HAPPY TO SEE THIS, THANK YOU CHARLIE!!! THEY WERE SAYING THEY MIGHT NOT DO A SEASON 3, I THINK IT'LL DEFINITELY HAPPEN
I'm pretty sure Season 3 is confirmed actually
@@kostasspirou1010 I can't wait! I watched season 1 some time ago thinking that was gonna be it, but then I found season 2 once it was 15 episodes in so the show was never ruined for me at any moment whatsoever
now im remembering more about the article i read, it was saying that the reason they were considering not doing season 3 was because the manga wasn't being purchased enough/getting enough love? kind of odd but I just saw an official twitter post where at the end it says "Thorfinn's journey will continue" so that gives me a lot of hope!
@@TchSktch Yup I saw that one too, I'm very excited tbh!
Might be the best character development and story of an anime i’ve ever seen
We have to get a season 3 because Sigurd deserves to be on tv, after Thorfinn he gets some of the greatest character development on the show. This and Ranking of Kings both made me cry so much. I pray it’s greatness is recognised.