I was surprised she didn’t ask “but is it cheating if they just hooked up and had sex?” “Like just one round of sex?” That poor woman, she deserves better
Make no mistake she put some heavy blinders on for the sake of raising children. When she said they hung out in person, why else would he, to chit chat? go bowling?
She's probably just so afraid of being alone with 4 kids that she's trying to find anything he does as acceptable. Can't really blame her for being terrified of what that would be like
@@SarahConnor562 "I don’t necessarily put porn in that category automatically" Why do you need pron if you have somene? You're looking at real men/women naked engaged in sexual activity while getting off to them. It' disrespectful even when it's not an addiction, unless the other part doesn't care at all.
Many of you are trying to make fun of her. She has been brainwashed, gaslighted & so overburdened by having 4 kids that she can't tell right from wrong. In all probability, she is also isolated from the world.
“Many of you are trying to make fun of her” is waaaaaay off the mark sister… it seems like everyone is pulling for this woman (you included). I think a lot of people relate to her 💜 xx
I'm guessing she was raised in a fundamentalist Christian home where women are taught to put up with anything the husband does. She sounds like someone in a cult.
@@BAKER22-l4u Do you know her or them, then? You're going around commenting a lot on this video, like you're either the husband or a cheater just like him.
you're right about that! having kids with a toxic person before establishing any type of degree/career is asking for major trouble, given the way things are nowadays. Never ever put yourself in such a compromising position.
Wow. She is totally brainwashed. If I found this in my husband's phone there would be no doubt in my mind he had violated our vows and was in adulterous relationships. I feel bad for her.
Tbh she’s right but she needs to have the ability to walk away to add with that. For example a guy I’m with can do whatever he pleases but I won’t accept it and will gladly walk the hell away. Do whatever you want by your damn self😂
When he said "Why do you think so little of yourself?" I really felt bad. That woman has been gaslighted and beaten down emotionally by this selfish prick.
Absolutely..... Concur. IMO it's unacceptable and disrespectful when in committed relationships. I think it's crazy to even ask questions when I'm pretty sure you already know the answer to the question....Then again we all have different perspectives and boundaries I suppose....😐
@@BAKER22-l4uwhy tf do you think? You keep typing useless comments with zero meaning. You can’t even effectively express yourself. Go find something to do.
She chose this guy. She has to take accountability for the choice of having kids with him. I'm sure she knew or had a feeling something like this was happening a long time ago. To continue to have kids with and stay married to this guy is also on her.
I'm only 4 mins in and I am beyond angry and sad for this woman. I can't believe she believes he possibly deserves "sexual stimulation" because her body has changed after children. Holy f*ck I'm so sad for her.
Everyone's body changes after childbirth so we all deserve being cheated on if that's the case. I doubt her husband looks good. Men need to choose their wife and quit looking around. It's why they're never happy.
@@catcoffee7958 I went through a similar relationship, although not to this degree. Thank God for my family, their endless support and their awakening calls, if it wasn’t for them, I would have became her.
She’s grasping at straws because she’s scared to be a single mother. She’s probably financially comfortable but emotionally drowning. she most likely won’t leave.
Codependent need validation. And don’t judge Gaslighting can change somone ability to see reality differently Takes ppl years to notice they were actually gaslighted
Girl he’s a cheater. I’m so sorry. 4 kids in 7 years is crazy. You need to go. This guy is not a good husband and shouldn’t be rewarded with your time and service. Run!!!!
Go where? You don’t know the whole story. He definitely sounds like a shitty husband but she could be a shitty wife as well. I had a friend who only had sex with her husband to conceive their children. What the hell is a man to do under those circumstances?
Unfortunately it is the stupidity suffered by many women. Had this been the other way round, the man would have believed his wife had slept with these men… even if she had not. Women will lie to themselves in all ways to keep dog poo men.
My mom grew up with an abundance of self-worth, but after 43 years of our dad's open floundering and gaslighting, her self-confidence was in the dirt. He ruined her. No one could convince her she had value. It was so hard for us kids to see her so broken.
😭😭😭 I'm so sorry for your mom. My husbands mom, who passed in 2016, also was married to a Narcissist. I hate that she never came to the full understanding that she has value and worth and deserved better. She even divorced him and met the love of her life and still felt like she was fat, that she didn't deserve such an amazing, all encompassing love, she struggled with the fact he was an atheist (being taught in the church that being unevenly yolked isn't ok, even though this man fully saw her and accepted her with the most amazing love!) and then after having a relationship with this amazing man, she went BACK to my FIL, thinking it was what God wanted....and _nothing_ changed. She died of an aneurysm. I never got to meet her and that breaks my heart. The amazing thing is my now husband (her son) got back in touch with this amazing man which led to me becoming friends with both of them. I was in an abusive marriage (14 years) and these two men saw I was in abuse, I didn't, they helped me SEE it for what it was and helped me see that he wouldn't change and that I only had control over me. I could not change my then husband. This wonderful man shared letters between him and my now husbands mom....and HER journey and story helped me realize that if I stayed in that abuse, it would continue to slowly kill me. My now husbands mom helped me beyond the grave and I will be forever grateful. I now have self-love, self worth, I'm free and healing and my husband has loved me through cptsd, nightmares, anxiety, triggers. I am so happy and I want this for Linda!!! (My MIL who's no longer with us is named Linda, too:) Please Linda, for your sake and your kids sake, find a trauma counselor and get you and your kids OUT! If you stay, you'll continue to be gaslit and made the problem while your husband continues to lie, cheat, and show you through his actions that you aren't worth the dirt on the bottom of his shoes....and your kids ARE WATCHING....and they'll learn that THIS is what love should look like, when in fact THIS, what you are living in, is hate and disrespect. Look up Narcissism. He sounds like a covert Narc, but could be malignant. Linda, find the FB group Victorious Voices. It's a group of survivors and thrives who are all dealing with these kinds of people~ the group is SO supportive and a wealth of knowledge and encouragement ❤ I hope you will SEE your worth and get out!
it's awful. you're right. and this is the case for a lot of women...they are slowly worn down over many years of the abuse. i know some like this and i hate it for them!
I caught my husband texting a woman he swore to God he wasn’t having an affair with.. after we divorced they went on to have a relationship for several years. He was telling me he was going to potato soup parties and to check on her little girl while I was in school. He made me feel like I was so crazy. After all these years I can finally understand that I was being gaslighted and I wasn’t the crazy one. I was being cheated on and abused.
If this happened to me, I would plan everything secretly. One day when he came home, the locks would be changed, his kids and I would have moved out, the house would be empty and his stuff would all be sold. I would then send him a screen shot of all the women and tell him to contact one them to give him a place to live. I'd file for divorce and he would never have direct access to me again. If someone is cheating with NINE people, There is NOTHING to talk about. We're done.
@@Lauren-i8i It needs saying and saying clearly precisely because a woman with 4 children who's been gaslighted and browbeaten as badly as this caller has clearly been can't think straight anymore or see things and people as they really are. She needs a brutally honest reality check to shock her out of the trance of worthlessness and incapacity he's put her in.
My heart is broken for this woman, especially because her counselor even let it continue. I’m so glad she called Dr John- the best person to talk truth into this gaslit woman
Especially the part where she said, "Who am I to tell him who he can and cannot talk to?" So glad John replied "YOU'RE HIS WIFE!!" This is one of the saddest calls I've listened to on this show.
Never heard a sadder person in my life . He has gaslighted her self esteem and brains out of existence. What she needs is a strong friend , family and therapist who can at least try to pull her out of this darkness.
unfortunately there are still sooooooo many women in this position and it is just plain sad! they need serious help. some just weren't brought up to value themself or encouraged to establish a career before having a family. then nonsense like this happens and they feel "stuck"... just awful!
i feel ya, you sooooooo want them to wake tf up...but most women like her have been robbed of any shred of self-respect and confidence from years of emotional abuse... i know several couples who have a similar story and it is disturbing and sad.
If you read this, please know that this is not normal and this is not what a real man does to his wife. This is adultery on multiple levels and you should divorce this loser. Make him pay child support AND alimony. He wants to act like a single guy, let him. But in the name of God, he's going to have to literally pay for that choice. I am praying for you, my sister. I am so sorry. I am so, so sorry.
@@traceejohnson290 John Delony just explained how this is 1000 percent a sexual relationship, that it does not have to be actual intercourse to be adultery.
Literally cried listening to this. I struggled so much with just one baby. My amazing husband who wasn't perfect and had his own issues to deal with then was my biggest support! This poor woman has been gaslit so bad she can't even think like a logical adult human. The emotional abuse is through the roof.
@@thanksforreadindmyunusuall3346because that's what gaslighting is. Somebody brings up a valid concern and the guilty party uses fallacy arguments to project the guilt onto the innocent party its very common actually..
Therapists cannot say “Leave”. That would be someone making the decision for her. She has to make the decision. The therapist helps to uncover and address … it is the person’s responsibility to decide.
If he’s gotten comfortable enough to sext with 9 women and feels no guilt … I have a very hard time believing he’s not physically cheating with at least one of them.
She is so damn tired and depressed that she is looking for any reason to keep him around in the marriage so she does not feel lonely. Poor women is a single mom with a prick of a roommate.
I had to quit listening when she said he said he quit sexting 3 of the 9 women. Linda are you are way better than you think you are. As scary as it is, get out and start a new life. I too, was afraid to be alone. LEAVE!!!!!!!
that won't "change" him though... these narcissistic types of guys are a lost cause. they do not change 99% of the time. he has likely worn her down of any self-esteem she once had due to years of emotional abuse.
I’m so sorry! She’s been so gaslit. I was in this place. He cheated the entire marriage and I was in denial. Leaving the marriage was the best thing I could do for my mental health and for my kids. Next month I celebrate the 1 year anniversary since I left him.
My congratulations!!! How did you handle all these gaslighting effects? I'm only 8 months single but still can't handle that feeling of deep doubting about my conclusions and myself.
This woman is broken and I can so relate because I've been there. So manipulated that she can't tell what's right and what's wrong, if things are all in her head. It took a counselor to point out to me that I was being abused and I honestly had no idea
Same happened to me. I sat across from my couselor and tried yo convince get that I was crazy and insane. She would not let me and told me my ex husband was abusing me psychologically.
@@sweaterwear2915 this is part of it. It's even worse if the woman has no education/skills to fall back on/job to return to. this is why i always encourage younger women to ensure that they have the ability to provide a decent living, should they find themselves in such a situation! I was very fortunate to be brought up to value myself, get a solid education/degree/establish a career before marriage or starting a family.
I hate how it has to come down to a woman having a job first so she can separate from her ex when she needs to. I wish that the alimony and child support payments were enough. It isn't fair to women in this type of situation.
Trust me she knows that it's cheating, but unfortunately she knows if she leaves, she'll be stuck with four lil kids alone. While he'll go on with his life and date someone else
But I bet you she knew he was a cheater before yet went ahead and had kids. As if the kids were going to change. Woman sometimes are delusional....they cant be this irresponsible when they know they will be the ones having to take care of the kids.
Finally Dr. John steps up and gives this woman a reality check. The real Dr. John showed up. I want to see more consistency like this on a regular basis.
Sexting IS cheating. Even THINKING about someone intimately that you are not married to is adultery. It's ridiculous that this woman has to even question if her husband's behaivior is out of bounds.
Its hard. She will have been told its electronic, nothing happened in the real world, theres no intent to hurt her blah blah. Thats what i was told so when youve heard it for YEARS over and over you question your gut as nothing physical took place. Sad but true.
@@kmb5678 And it doesn't help that the culture has commercialised and demeaned sex, and prominent people are convincing impressionable minds that all of this isn't a big deal.
I’m not sure thoughts can be called cheating. If that were the case I’d say there’s never been a marriage in this history of marriage that didn’t involve cheating.
@@claymac7895 Perhaps it would be impossible to keep from ever having intrusive thoughts, but it is possible to refuse to entertain those thoughts continually, and then also lust after a specific person. THAT is cheating in your thoughts.
My biggest fear would be,to ever end up like her. Gaslighted,emotionally abused,manipulated and disrespected in the worst way by the man you love,whom you have 4 children with. He must be a very horrible person. How can he do it to her?! I hope he gets what he deserves.
"you're getting the world youre allowing" very well put John. I honestly was questioning if this was a fake call pranking John, that's how hard it is to wrap your mind around somebody who is talking about somebody doing what he's doing like Linda is. Like it's crazy to hear how she defends this, its almost hard to believe someone could be this brainwashed, but that just goes to show the power of brainwashing someone can have. Horrible situation for Linda. But John's right, she's selecting this reality.
Thank you so much John for pointing the OBVIOUS out to this woman and not joining in with the gaslighting being done by her husband. Thank you for valuing the contract agreement of marriage at the same level or above of ANY other business contract. Thank you for being one of the few good men standing up for all the humans you talk to, defending children, and the vulnerable. I really appreciate you NOT being one of the many men/pastors/counselors sweeping the hard truths under the rug. The way that man is treating his wife IS DISGUSTING. So glad another man is saying it regardless of "bro code" nonsense. Truly, thank you. 💛🙏💛
Cheating starts in the mind. When a person selects the idea and then feed that to his mind he is laying the groundwork for the physicality. It's important to learn the Dynamics of the start to finish when it comes down to infidelity.
I’ve been professionally dealing with this kind of thing for many years. I am so glad that Dr. John told her that her husband is having sex with these women when he meets with them. You can bet your next breath that they are having sex. Either she is incredibly naive or just believes what she wants to believe. This guy isn’t going to meet with a woman who’s been sending him naked pictures and just have coffee and conversation. Wake up girl and get out of this mess while you still have some sanity.
A good man will love a woman who carries the battle scars of bearing him 4 children. How horrible this man is.. no character… no morals.. heartless and cruel.
When I was in the Military I was hanging out with a male colleague and his wife, we both had little girls the same age. I saw it as nothing more than hanging out with friends. It turned out over time it was apparent his wife was trying to get me around her husband so he could try to hook up with me. When that became apparent and I confronted her she listed every excuse in the book from her weight gain to “every man cheats.” I was bewildered. She argued with me for an hour about how she deserved a cheating husband. I can’t think of a lower standard of self esteem.
I'm definitely not surprised... and it when I was in the military, too... and it happens more often than it is...and the AF do NOT tolerate adultery either
I've had that happen to me twice. Once with a friend of the family. The other was a colleague. I stopped hanging out with married people after that. So awkward and gross
Some couples just enjoy having fun like that. If the third adult is into that and is consenting there shouldn't be a problem with it from anybody. Some women, and men like to share and nobody should have to tell them what is right and wrong. As long as nobody is being harmed and there aren't any terrible side effects from doing such activities, it shouldn't be anybody else's "problem" to fix.
I was on bed rest for a pregnancy, and he told me if I couldn’t satisfy him he’d just have to get his needs met somewhere else. It was the most helpless feeling I’ve ever felt. 8 years later and another kid later, they don’t get better. Now it’s even harder to leave bc I been out of work for so long and have 2 kids to worry about now. Get out if you can, bc I’m a shell of a woman I used to be.
@@krystalgardiner5591 yes, please realize your worth and the power you do have. if you have ANY type of education/skill/job you can return to, i would do that ASAP... i always recommend that younger women establish their education and some sort of career BEFORE having kids, as so many end up in situations like these and feel "trapped" so unnecessarily...it doesn't have to be that way. If you don;t have a way of providing for yourself, i would do whatever i could to go back to school, etc to get myself where i needed to be. Best of luck.
Poor Linda is such a doormat. How disrespectful of her husband to do this. Oh, and I wonder how much money he's spending on these other girlfriends that is taking away from the kids' college fund.
How do people not realize that ANY contact with another person outside of marriage is cheating. Texting, sexting, chatting, telephone, meet ups …. whatever the method … cheating! 🤯 He’s gaslighted her beyond anything I’ve ever heard.
I wish I could post the video of the "Listen, Linda" kid. This is so frustrating to listen to. My heart breaks for how far she's fallen away from herself.
I've been here. She won't "see" the abuse until she's away from him. I didn't see mine. Her blindness though is a GRACE from God!! If I'd seen the abuse while I was in it, I don't think I would have healed as well now.
WHAT? I feel bad for her because she sees herself so low! People take advantage and she thinks its normal! she grew up that way and thought she was crazy.. she gotta see the value in herself & heal from all that past trauma/wounds.
One way to beat the gaslighter game is standing up for your own values. He can have his definition of cheating all he wants. But it's empowering to say "To me this is 1000% cheating and I will not stay in a relationship that allows for cheating." They can whine and moan about your definition all they want, but it's your standards.
All social media outlets continue to tear us apart in so many ways.... You either fully disconnect from all the noise or deal with the consequences. The more active you are, the more threats enter your relationship.
This is just so sad that it is making me tear up. It's incredibly sad what this woman is going through and she is trying to find reason to tell herself what she going through is acceptable. I really hope she finds peace in the future and that there is a positive outcome for her.
Linda.. you are worth so much more! You are beautiful and amazing as you are. Also, your hubby is massively contributing to the decline in your self worth by interacting and showing attention to other women. This is ding to your self worth day after day after day. Is it worth your sanity and value? Praying for you 💜
This man has broken you. Get therapy for yourself my girl please, not couples therapy. What if it was your daughter that was going through this? And it might be if you let it continue, that's what you're teaching her. Please leave and get therapy for yourself.
Narcissistic husbands like this often impregnate their wives to keep them tied to them and vulnerable they can’t go anywhere. It’s incredibly sad. Dear Lady it’s time to be really strong and divorce him xx
Stay strong Linda. I lived in someone’s gaslit reality for a long time and lost total sight of myself. I was broken for a long time and didn’t even realise it. Once I accepted it all it was tough for a while no doubt, but I became so much stronger for it and now am the person I’d always wanted to be. Happier than ever. You got this.
Stay strong??? What are you saying?? Saying 'stay strong' implies she has been strong up till now - when in fact she's been probably one of the weakest of the 4 billion women that are currently inhabiting this planet.
Time for the male perspective- This is crazy- My wife and I have been in survival mode for many years, with health issues and four kids, my wife homeschooling. But when things slowed down for us in our relationship, I understood why and so did she. We just decided to start dating again like we did before kids, especially since the last one is almost 18yrs old- I mean looking at how she took my check and took care of our family and our kids all these years, even when things were tight- I couldn't imagine hurting her like that. I wouldn't need a therapist to tell me it was wrong- after 24 years of marriage, she is still my best friend, so this is crazy, what has the world come to when a wife has to ask is this wrong- I couldn't imagine our daughters and son not having a strong opinion about this if I was crazy enough to do it. Her husband is a manipulator- you can't discuss this outside of therapy and I am still talking to 6 of the 9 women. So, this is not how men act? Maybe in this new generation but family and marriage use to mean something, use to stand for something. She needs to take a zero tolerance stand, I sure know my wife would because she knows she deserves better than this and wouldn't except any less.
What is wrong with this woman??? She is an enabler. I feel extremely bad for her because she sounds like a great woman. I hope she leaves him and found herself a man who deserves her…I want to cry for her. Her husband is a horrible human being, not only he’s hurting his wife, he is also hurting his children. He is beyond disgusting!
It doesn't help the counselor also warped her perception to question if it's considered cheating these days, and not until someone else said yes, that was her majority.
She’s scared of setting him off. No, it doesn’t sound like she feels safe. This is so crazy. As a mother of four my heart goes out to her but her kids will see this as “marriage” and it’s not. Not an acceptable way to treat a person.
I was surprised she didn’t ask “but is it cheating if they just hooked up and had sex?” “Like just one round of sex?”
That poor woman, she deserves better
She doesn’t seem very bright
@@SarahConnor562 WOOOOOOOOOOOW
@@Jane5720 I agree, sounded like a teenager asking questions
Make no mistake she put some heavy blinders on for the sake of raising children.
When she said they hung out in person, why else would he, to chit chat? go bowling?
She’s in denial.
You can hear all the gaslighting arguments her husband has used against her with each of her questions. Heartbreaking.
Seriously? LMAO
@@BAKER22-l4u Small 🐓 energy
@@erismana2105 do better. What part of his two word comment triggered you to insult? SMH 🤡
@@Phonoodles408 Take your own advice
Yes
She's probably just so afraid of being alone with 4 kids that she's trying to find anything he does as acceptable. Can't really blame her for being terrified of what that would be like
That's the sad part of this entire thing. Fear of the unknown
@@SarahConnor562 "I don’t necessarily put porn in that category automatically" Why do you need pron if you have somene? You're looking at real men/women naked engaged in sexual activity while getting off to them. It' disrespectful even when it's not an addiction, unless the other part doesn't care at all.
@@SarahConnor562 I like to keep things simple. All of it is cheating to me. If you want someone who likes cheating, we ain't gonna work lol
She's already alone. Geez this is heartbreaking.
Yes it is fine to be terrified and upset, but Not ok to remain an idiot especially with children around.
Many of you are trying to make fun of her. She has been brainwashed, gaslighted & so overburdened by having 4 kids that she can't tell right from wrong.
In all probability, she is also isolated from the world.
Right! Most likely
THIS!!!
@@angelac5954 I think I love you!
“Many of you are trying to make fun of her” is waaaaaay off the mark sister…
it seems like everyone is pulling for this woman (you included).
I think a lot of people relate to her 💜 xx
I'm guessing she was raised in a fundamentalist Christian home where women are taught to put up with anything the husband does. She sounds like someone in a cult.
Four kids in seven years--he made sure it is difficult for her to leave. And she fell for it.
LMAO.. RIDICULOUS
You DON'T know him or them
@@BAKER22-l4u Do you know her or them, then? You're going around commenting a lot on this video, like you're either the husband or a cheater just like him.
@@BAKER22-l4u does your limited vocabulary consist of only “LMAO” and “ridiculous”???
you're right about that! having kids with a toxic person before establishing any type of degree/career is asking for major trouble, given the way things are nowadays. Never ever put yourself in such a compromising position.
@@bethanybrown2391 lol...typical troll who is probably just like the guy described in the call!
Wow. She is totally brainwashed. If I found this in my husband's phone there would be no doubt in my mind he had violated our vows and was in adulterous relationships. I feel bad for her.
Sounds like she has been living the last 7 years with a malniptive "husband" .
Sounds like she got what she wanted
@Rusty Shackleford your name is 🤌🤌🤌
No kidding! He did a number on her. The guy sounds like a full blown narcissist
Brainwashed? LMAO
Linda. We’re pulling for you.
YOU
DESERVE
BETTER
She probably won't leave until the children are grown. She enjoys being controlled.
💗💗💗💗
Yes!!! 🎉 you really do, Linda!
4 kids she’s not leaving stats show this she’s in a pickle .. four kids as a single parent is insane
Absofuckinglutely YES!
“Who am I to say who he can and cannot text?” Ummm I’m sorry what?!? I’m so sad for her 😢
The gaslighting is insane!
Tbh she’s right but she needs to have the ability to walk away to add with that. For example a guy I’m with can do whatever he pleases but I won’t accept it and will gladly walk the hell away. Do whatever you want by your damn self😂
Next step will be, "Who am I to say who he can and cannot have sex with?"
She's talking like she's a girlfriend
I loved that he said, "you're his WIFE!"
When he said "Why do you think so little of yourself?" I really felt bad. That woman has been gaslighted and beaten down emotionally by this selfish prick.
This is 1000% cheating
Absolutely..... Concur. IMO it's unacceptable and disrespectful when in committed relationships. I think it's crazy to even ask questions when I'm pretty sure you already know the answer to the question....Then again we all have different perspectives and boundaries I suppose....😐
No it’s not. It’s 1000000000000000000000000000000000000% cheating
Actually, it’s 9000 because there’s 9 women.😂
agreed. and it only progresses from there... if it's not yet physical, only a matter of time before it is.. especially since she is just tolerating it
900%
I'm surprised at how angry I am for this woman. What a horrible situation. My heart goes out to her.
Angry why
@@BAKER22-l4uwhy tf do you think? You keep typing useless comments with zero meaning. You can’t even effectively express yourself. Go find something to do.
@BBaker, Empathy.
She chose this guy. She has to take accountability for the choice of having kids with him. I'm sure she knew or had a feeling something like this was happening a long time ago. To continue to have kids with and stay married to this guy is also on her.
@@marshallellis7054- These abusive types are extremely manipulative. He also baby trapped her which is also another tactic of abusers.
I'm only 4 mins in and I am beyond angry and sad for this woman. I can't believe she believes he possibly deserves "sexual stimulation" because her body has changed after children. Holy f*ck I'm so sad for her.
Everyone's body changes after childbirth so we all deserve being cheated on if that's the case. I doubt her husband looks good. Men need to choose their wife and quit looking around. It's why they're never happy.
And you know he's MADE her feel this undesirable! My ex was such a narc... made me feel this way on purpose.
He really destroyed her, diminished her self-esteem and made her question basic principles. How sad is that!
He picked a vulnerable woman,, easy target
@@catcoffee7958 I went through a similar relationship, although not to this degree. Thank God for my family, their endless support and their awakening calls, if it wasn’t for them, I would have became her.
She’s grasping at straws because she’s scared to be a single mother. She’s probably financially comfortable but emotionally drowning. she most likely won’t leave.
LMAO... RIDICULOUS.. You DON'T even know her
@@BAKER22-l4u None of us do. It's the comment section. Welcome to RUclips
I agree four kids 9/10 she’s not leaving
@@BAKER22-l4uYes none of us know the caller. We're just leaving our opinion. Are you okay?
Codependent need validation. And don’t judge
Gaslighting can change somone ability to see reality differently
Takes ppl years to notice they were actually gaslighted
Girl he’s a cheater. I’m so sorry. 4 kids in 7 years is crazy. You need to go. This guy is not a good husband and shouldn’t be rewarded with your time and service. Run!!!!
RIDICULOUS. You DON'T know him or the ENTIRE story
Likely, from the way she talks, prior to this stupid cheating, he verbally abused her. That's why her self esteem is shot.
She's going to need a good network of friends and family to raise those children and work full time too.
Go where? You don’t know the whole story. He definitely sounds like a shitty husband but she could be a shitty wife as well. I had a friend who only had sex with her husband to conceive their children. What the hell is a man to do under those circumstances?
@@JKNat9004 - You assuming things is RIDICULOUS. Just because you may do it does NOT mean he did!! Sounds to me like you're projecting
This is so insane!!! I can’t even believe she believes him when he says he hasn’t touched any of his 9 girlfriends. 🤦🏽♂️
Unfortunately it is the stupidity suffered by many women. Had this been the other way round, the man would have believed his wife had slept with these men… even if she had not. Women will lie to themselves in all ways to keep dog poo men.
Exactly. He's such a narcissist, and he has her down bad.
My mom grew up with an abundance of self-worth, but after 43 years of our dad's open floundering and gaslighting, her self-confidence was in the dirt. He ruined her. No one could convince her she had value. It was so hard for us kids to see her so broken.
So sad! I think the same thing is happening to this poor woman
Your mom and you and your siblings deserved better treatment. Hugs
😭😭😭 I'm so sorry for your mom. My husbands mom, who passed in 2016, also was married to a Narcissist. I hate that she never came to the full understanding that she has value and worth and deserved better. She even divorced him and met the love of her life and still felt like she was fat, that she didn't deserve such an amazing, all encompassing love, she struggled with the fact he was an atheist (being taught in the church that being unevenly yolked isn't ok, even though this man fully saw her and accepted her with the most amazing love!) and then after having a relationship with this amazing man, she went BACK to my FIL, thinking it was what God wanted....and _nothing_ changed. She died of an aneurysm. I never got to meet her and that breaks my heart.
The amazing thing is my now husband (her son) got back in touch with this amazing man which led to me becoming friends with both of them. I was in an abusive marriage (14 years) and these two men saw I was in abuse, I didn't, they helped me SEE it for what it was and helped me see that he wouldn't change and that I only had control over me. I could not change my then husband. This wonderful man shared letters between him and my now husbands mom....and HER journey and story helped me realize that if I stayed in that abuse, it would continue to slowly kill me. My now husbands mom helped me beyond the grave and I will be forever grateful. I now have self-love, self worth, I'm free and healing and my husband has loved me through cptsd, nightmares, anxiety, triggers. I am so happy and I want this for Linda!!! (My MIL who's no longer with us is named Linda, too:)
Please Linda, for your sake and your kids sake, find a trauma counselor and get you and your kids OUT! If you stay, you'll continue to be gaslit and made the problem while your husband continues to lie, cheat, and show you through his actions that you aren't worth the dirt on the bottom of his shoes....and your kids ARE WATCHING....and they'll learn that THIS is what love should look like, when in fact THIS, what you are living in, is hate and disrespect.
Look up Narcissism. He sounds like a covert Narc, but could be malignant.
Linda, find the FB group Victorious Voices. It's a group of survivors and thrives who are all dealing with these kinds of people~ the group is SO supportive and a wealth of knowledge and encouragement ❤
I hope you will SEE your worth and get out!
it's awful. you're right. and this is the case for a lot of women...they are slowly worn down over many years of the abuse. i know some like this and i hate it for them!
People with self worth don't choose useless people like that
I caught my husband texting a woman he swore to God he wasn’t having an affair with.. after we divorced they went on to have a relationship for several years. He was telling me he was going to potato soup parties and to check on her little girl while I was in school. He made me feel like I was so crazy. After all these years I can finally understand that I was being gaslighted and I wasn’t the crazy one. I was being cheated on and abused.
I'm so sorry that you had to go through that, I hope you are in a much better position now!
She said well he reduced the number from 9 to 6 and she views this as progress?. Damn
It’s a miserable joke out hear.
Yeah LMAO!!! She thinks she’s got something to work with. What he’s not telling her, it’s actually more than 9.
He *claims* that he has reduced the number. Based on his utterly bankrupt morals, I would not believe a single thing he says.
I’m not going to lie, that made me laugh HARD
@@Musicienne-DAB1995maybe he just lack of 3 with all the texting lmao
If this happened to me, I would plan everything secretly. One day when he came home, the locks would be changed, his kids and I would have moved out, the house would be empty and his stuff would all be sold. I would then send him a screen shot of all the women and tell him to contact one them to give him a place to live. I'd file for divorce and he would never have direct access to me again. If someone is cheating with NINE people, There is NOTHING to talk about. We're done.
Agreed!
Easy to say when you don’t have 4 small kids & in a vulnerable financial position.
It sounds so simple when you are not in those shoes.
@@Lauren-i8iif four kids are involved, it would definitely have to be a team effort. I would get family involved to help.
@@Lauren-i8i It needs saying and saying clearly precisely because a woman with 4 children who's been gaslighted and browbeaten as badly as this caller has clearly been can't think straight anymore or see things and people as they really are. She needs a brutally honest reality check to shock her out of the trance of worthlessness and incapacity he's put her in.
@@Lauren-i8i 100 percent!
Hearing how Linda is excusing her husband’s behavior makes me so sad. My eyes are watering for her 😢
My heart is broken for this woman, especially because her counselor even let it continue. I’m so glad she called Dr John- the best person to talk truth into this gaslit woman
May be she’s not financially prepared or mentally who knows.
Especially the part where she said, "Who am I to tell him who he can and cannot talk to?" So glad John replied "YOU'RE HIS WIFE!!" This is one of the saddest calls I've listened to on this show.
Never heard a sadder person in my life . He has gaslighted her self esteem and brains out of existence. What she needs is a strong friend , family and therapist who can at least try to pull her out of this darkness.
unfortunately there are still sooooooo many women in this position and it is just plain sad! they need serious help. some just weren't brought up to value themself or encouraged to establish a career before having a family. then nonsense like this happens and they feel "stuck"... just awful!
That dudes made her feel so insignificant she can’t even trust herself.
I was married to a Serial Cheater for 20 years…..I feel this woman’s pain💔
Scary what gaslighting does to a person, that she actually paid someone to ask this.
My heart hurts so bad for this woman. But, she needs to snap out of it and leave that SOB! He's disgusting!
LMAO... You DON'T even know the guy
@@BAKER22-l4u Wow!
@@BAKER22-l4uIf this was happening to you you would be crying in a corner. You weird women haters are desperate.
@@BAKER22-l4u are you kidding me? 😳
i feel ya, you sooooooo want them to wake tf up...but most women like her have been robbed of any shred of self-respect and confidence from years of emotional abuse... i know several couples who have a similar story and it is disturbing and sad.
If you read this, please know that this is not normal and this is not what a real man does to his wife. This is adultery on multiple levels and you should divorce this loser. Make him pay child support AND alimony. He wants to act like a single guy, let him. But in the name of God, he's going to have to literally pay for that choice. I am praying for you, my sister. I am so sorry. I am so, so sorry.
God bless you Marc
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No Not Adultery that must include intercourse and that doesn't happen when he is watching porn alone😏
Sweet :) thank you for being a real man
@@traceejohnson290 John Delony just explained how this is 1000 percent a sexual relationship, that it does not have to be actual intercourse to be adultery.
Literally cried listening to this. I struggled so much with just one baby. My amazing husband who wasn't perfect and had his own issues to deal with then was my biggest support! This poor woman has been gaslit so bad she can't even think like a logical adult human. The emotional abuse is through the roof.
Mentally abused. She doesn't know what is up or down.
I am surprised he didn't turn around on her and accuse her of violating his privacy by looking at his phone.
Why would he do that?
@@thanksforreadindmyunusuall3346it's a common reversal tactic for narcs and abusers.
@@thanksforreadindmyunusuall3346because that's what gaslighting is. Somebody brings up a valid concern and the guilty party uses fallacy arguments to project the guilt onto the innocent party its very common actually..
What’s terrifying is they are in marriage counseling? How the hell is that therapist not like “ leave he isn’t going to stop”
They’re not supposed to say that
And she kept having kids by him,,, sad
Marriage counseling is not very effective. They take your money, say "hmmm that's interesting" but they don't give any real advice.
He's probably sexting with the therapist too.
Therapists cannot say “Leave”. That would be someone making the decision for her. She has to make the decision. The therapist helps to uncover and address … it is the person’s responsibility to decide.
As a man, this call made so sad. It truly broke my heart, I'm so sorry for Linda.
This husband MUST be gaslighting her 🤦♀️
And in complete financial control
If he’s gotten comfortable enough to sext with 9 women and feels no guilt … I have a very hard time believing he’s not physically cheating with at least one of them.
Of course, he did cheat. She is just in denial, scared, hurt, whatever it is. I don't know, but it's sad for her to think she is not worth it.
My heart feels very heavy and scared of marrying at the same time.
We accept the love we think we deserve. 😪
Poor woman.
😢
The cognitive dissonance of this poor woman breaks my heart, she is on fire and doesn't know it.
So well said 😢
She’s on fire 🥲
Bingo
Yup.
She is so damn tired and depressed that she is looking for any reason to keep him around in the marriage so she does not feel lonely. Poor women is a single mom with a prick of a roommate.
Great response on John's part. Linda, call a divorce lawyer TODAY. Seriously, for the sake of yourself & your kids, run.
I had to quit listening when she said he said he quit sexting 3 of the 9 women. Linda are you are way better than you think you are. As scary as it is, get out and start a new life. I too, was afraid to be alone. LEAVE!!!!!!!
She needs to get tested ASAP if she hasn't by now!!
He got a live in nanny for hours 4 kids and 9 girlfriends. On point. Hot damn!
He's living his best life for sure
I spent half of my life being Linda. My heart goes out to her. She deserves so much more
What race are you? If you dont mind me asking?
This world can be so cruel. Wish the best for this woman.
Anyone else want to find Linda and give her a big hug? 💔 We are all rooting for you, Linda!
This breaks my heart. Linda, it doesn’t matter what you look like. You are his wife! And the mother of 4 children. Praying for you ❤ I’m so sorry
She has no self-esteem.
that won't "change" him though... these narcissistic types of guys are a lost cause. they do not change 99% of the time. he has likely worn her down of any self-esteem she once had due to years of emotional abuse.
I hate that men think it’s ok to act like a bachelor after they get married 😡 They shattered their wedding vows!!
I feel so sorry for her. She takes care of four kids and he cheats. Lord have mercy on this nice woman
I’m so sorry! She’s been so gaslit. I was in this place. He cheated the entire marriage and I was in denial.
Leaving the marriage was the best thing I could do for my mental health and for my kids.
Next month I celebrate the 1 year anniversary since I left him.
Congrats!
My congratulations!!! How did you handle all these gaslighting effects? I'm only 8 months single but still can't handle that feeling of deep doubting about my conclusions and myself.
4 kids in 7 years and in therapy...smfh..
Cheaters are cowards if she did the same her bi-ch boy husband he would flip out..
Oh for sure, I doubt his fragile ego could handle it
LMAO
Cheaters are cowards? LMAO
And you're who EXACTLY
@@BAKER22-l4uI triggered the beta 😁
Amen
@BAKER22-l4u yeah they are you dont have the balls to be honest that would make you a coward...lmfao
This woman is broken and I can so relate because I've been there. So manipulated that she can't tell what's right and what's wrong, if things are all in her head. It took a counselor to point out to me that I was being abused and I honestly had no idea
I'm glad you got out and could hear that counselor. Hope you are smiling today!
@Kareen Odum thank you! Yes, that was 9 years ago. A few rocky years for sure healing from that nightmare and a lot of work, but life is good!
Same happened to me. I sat across from my couselor and tried yo convince get that I was crazy and insane. She would not let me and told me my ex husband was abusing me psychologically.
Ditto
I feel awful for this lady! she deserves better than that 😔
Her heart just died on this call.
She’s bargaining with herself and trying to convince herself that this isn’t so bad and she can tolerate it. It’s bad, he’s cheating, get out.
Yup, that's self-gaslighting. 😢
Also the thought of starting over keeps them where they are.
@@sweaterwear2915 Yes, sadly. She deserves better than this ass.
@@sweaterwear2915 this is part of it. It's even worse if the woman has no education/skills to fall back on/job to return to. this is why i always encourage younger women to ensure that they have the ability to provide a decent living, should they find themselves in such a situation! I was very fortunate to be brought up to value myself, get a solid education/degree/establish a career before marriage or starting a family.
I hate how it has to come down to a woman having a job first so she can separate from her ex when she needs to. I wish that the alimony and child support payments were enough. It isn't fair to women in this type of situation.
Trust me she knows that it's cheating, but unfortunately she knows if she leaves, she'll be stuck with four lil kids alone. While he'll go on with his life and date someone else
This is my life. Not easy.
Sh*t, let him go... good luck to the next one.
@@blueseptember2174 🙁 Dang
Not easy. She needs to put money aside personal account and leave asap
But I bet you she knew he was a cheater before yet went ahead and had kids. As if the kids were going to change. Woman sometimes are delusional....they cant be this irresponsible when they know they will be the ones having to take care of the kids.
WOW! This is insane mental gymnastics coming from this woman.
RIDICULOUS
poor woman, her concept of reality has been twisted beyond belief it's insane
Finally Dr. John steps up and gives this woman a reality check. The real Dr. John showed up. I want to see more consistency like this on a regular basis.
Sexting IS cheating. Even THINKING about someone intimately that you are not married to is adultery. It's ridiculous that this woman has to even question if her husband's behaivior is out of bounds.
Its hard. She will have been told its electronic, nothing happened in the real world, theres no intent to hurt her blah blah. Thats what i was told so when youve heard it for YEARS over and over you question your gut as nothing physical took place. Sad but true.
@@kmb5678 And it doesn't help that the culture has commercialised and demeaned sex, and prominent people are convincing impressionable minds that all of this isn't a big deal.
I’m not sure thoughts can be called cheating. If that were the case I’d say there’s never been a marriage in this history of marriage that didn’t involve cheating.
@@claymac7895 Perhaps it would be impossible to keep from ever having intrusive thoughts, but it is possible to refuse to entertain those thoughts continually, and then also lust after a specific person. THAT is cheating in your thoughts.
@@claymac7895thoughts can come but they must be immediately rejected or it’s adultery.
My biggest fear would be,to ever end up like her. Gaslighted,emotionally abused,manipulated and disrespected in the worst way by the man you love,whom you have 4 children with. He must be a very horrible person. How can he do it to her?! I hope he gets what he deserves.
"you're getting the world youre allowing" very well put John.
I honestly was questioning if this was a fake call pranking John, that's how hard it is to wrap your mind around somebody who is talking about somebody doing what he's doing like Linda is.
Like it's crazy to hear how she defends this, its almost hard to believe someone could be this brainwashed, but that just goes to show the power of brainwashing someone can have.
Horrible situation for Linda. But John's right, she's selecting this reality.
this guy has emotionally and psychologically abused this poor woman for over 7 years this poor lady i feel for her
And physically. The toll of 4 pregnancies in 7 years is wow
@@VV-er3zg That isn't physical abuse, that's just called biology. Let's not conflate that with real physical abuse.
Thank you so much John for pointing the OBVIOUS out to this woman and not joining in with the gaslighting being done by her husband. Thank you for valuing the contract agreement of marriage at the same level or above of ANY other business contract. Thank you for being one of the few good men standing up for all the humans you talk to, defending children, and the vulnerable.
I really appreciate you NOT being one of the many men/pastors/counselors sweeping the hard truths under the rug. The way that man is treating his wife IS DISGUSTING. So glad another man is saying it regardless of "bro code" nonsense. Truly, thank you. 💛🙏💛
This lady needs the biggest hug 🤗
She needs a slap 👋
Cheating starts in the mind. When a person selects the idea and then feed that to his mind he is laying the groundwork for the physicality. It's important to learn the Dynamics of the start to finish when it comes down to infidelity.
I’ve been professionally dealing with this kind of thing for many years. I am so glad that Dr. John told her that her husband is having sex with these women when he meets with them. You can bet your next breath that they are having sex. Either she is incredibly naive or just believes what she wants to believe. This guy isn’t going to meet with a woman who’s been sending him naked pictures and just have coffee and conversation. Wake up girl and get out of this mess while you still have some sanity.
A good man will love a woman who carries the battle scars of bearing him 4 children. How horrible this man is.. no character… no morals.. heartless and cruel.
When I was in the Military I was hanging out with a male colleague and his wife, we both had little girls the same age. I saw it as nothing more than hanging out with friends. It turned out over time it was apparent his wife was trying to get me around her husband so he could try to hook up with me. When that became apparent and I confronted her she listed every excuse in the book from her weight gain to “every man cheats.” I was bewildered. She argued with me for an hour about how she deserved a cheating husband. I can’t think of a lower standard of self esteem.
I'm definitely not surprised... and it when I was in the military, too... and it happens more often than it is...and the AF do NOT tolerate adultery either
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I've had that happen to me twice. Once with a friend of the family. The other was a colleague. I stopped hanging out with married people after that. So awkward and gross
Some couples just enjoy having fun like that. If the third adult is into that and is consenting there shouldn't be a problem with it from anybody. Some women, and men like to share and nobody should have to tell them what is right and wrong. As long as nobody is being harmed and there aren't any terrible side effects from doing such activities, it shouldn't be anybody else's "problem" to fix.
@@TheFlyingZulu Yeah but that’s not what this particular discussion is about.
1000000000000% yes it’s cheating.
I was on bed rest for a pregnancy, and he told me if I couldn’t satisfy him he’d just have to get his needs met somewhere else. It was the most helpless feeling I’ve ever felt. 8 years later and another kid later, they don’t get better. Now it’s even harder to leave bc I been out of work for so long and have 2 kids to worry about now. Get out if you can, bc I’m a shell of a woman I used to be.
Please work on getting yourself out! You’re still alive, life is a gift it’s never too late it just takes time.
I am! I haven’t given up! Thank you for the kind comment
@@krystalgardiner5591 yes, please realize your worth and the power you do have. if you have ANY type of education/skill/job you can return to, i would do that ASAP... i always recommend that younger women establish their education and some sort of career BEFORE having kids, as so many end up in situations like these and feel "trapped" so unnecessarily...it doesn't have to be that way. If you don;t have a way of providing for yourself, i would do whatever i could to go back to school, etc to get myself where i needed to be. Best of luck.
@@lexxie225 totally agreed! it's time women wake up to their own power and walk away from poor treatment once and for all.
Good God, this is horrific!
Poor Linda is such a doormat. How disrespectful of her husband to do this. Oh, and I wonder how much money he's spending on these other girlfriends that is taking away from the kids' college fund.
Doormat? LMAO.. You DON'T even know her
@@BAKER22-l4u I mean, arguably, neither do you.
How do people not realize that ANY contact with another person outside of marriage is cheating. Texting, sexting, chatting, telephone, meet ups …. whatever the method … cheating! 🤯 He’s gaslighted her beyond anything I’ve ever heard.
Even pornography
Oh honey, love yourself enough to say no more. You deserve so much more.
wild the question has to even be asked
I wish I could post the video of the "Listen, Linda" kid. This is so frustrating to listen to. My heart breaks for how far she's fallen away from herself.
As she called she has already known that everything is wrong but she can’t see things clearly because of the gaslighting
Save the emails, forward conversations, photos and print the screens. Leave him a divorced man with a student budget
it's amazing the story we tell ourselves. I will be praying for her, and hope she can find a way to get out of this situation.
Me too, pray hard!❤
This one is too painful to even listen too. Poor woman.
How does he even have the time ?!
She is probably doing absolutely everything.
He's using her emotional and physical labour. Very common.
I've been here. She won't "see" the abuse until she's away from him. I didn't see mine. Her blindness though is a GRACE from God!! If I'd seen the abuse while I was in it, I don't think I would have healed as well now.
WHAT? I feel bad for her because she sees herself so low! People take advantage and she thinks its normal! she grew up that way and thought she was crazy.. she gotta see the value in herself & heal from all that past trauma/wounds.
One way to beat the gaslighter game is standing up for your own values. He can have his definition of cheating all he wants. But it's empowering to say "To me this is 1000% cheating and I will not stay in a relationship that allows for cheating." They can whine and moan about your definition all they want, but it's your standards.
She deserves so much better. This guy is an asshole gaslighter. The caller sounds really kind and understanding and is definitely worth so much more.
Wow,
Poor lady
This is absolutely heartbreaking. Linda....run. You DESERVE BETTER!
I so appreciate his honesty… it’s so refreshing…. He’s doing an amazing job…
💯
All social media outlets continue to tear us apart in so many ways.... You either fully disconnect from all the noise or deal with the consequences. The more active you are, the more threats enter your relationship.
LMAO.. Blaming social media? LMAO
@@BAKER22-l4u No blame just facts.
I agree with you 💯
@@kschrop ignore the above user hes trolling every single post
@@lifeaccordingtotheo9643 There's always 1 or many haha
There’s more than one way to cheat on someone and he’s totally cheating, not to mention being incredibly disrespectful of your marriage.
This is just so sad that it is making me tear up. It's incredibly sad what this woman is going through and she is trying to find reason to tell herself what she going through is acceptable. I really hope she finds peace in the future and that there is a positive outcome for her.
Linda.. you are worth so much more! You are beautiful and amazing as you are. Also, your hubby is massively contributing to the decline in your self worth by interacting and showing attention to other women. This is ding to your self worth day after day after day. Is it worth your sanity and value? Praying for you 💜
This man has broken you. Get therapy for yourself my girl please, not couples therapy. What if it was your daughter that was going through this? And it might be if you let it continue, that's what you're teaching her. Please leave and get therapy for yourself.
LMAO
RIDICULOUS
You DON'T know him
@@BAKER22-l4u Neither do you.
Call an attorney ASAP
Narcissistic husbands like this often impregnate their wives to keep them tied to them and vulnerable they can’t go anywhere. It’s incredibly sad. Dear Lady it’s time to be really strong and divorce him xx
Please site a source for that information.
Stay strong Linda. I lived in someone’s gaslit reality for a long time and lost total sight of myself. I was broken for a long time and didn’t even realise it. Once I accepted it all it was tough for a while no doubt, but I became so much stronger for it and now am the person I’d always wanted to be. Happier than ever. You got this.
Stay strong??? What are you saying?? Saying 'stay strong' implies she has been strong up till now - when in fact she's been probably one of the weakest of the 4 billion women that are currently inhabiting this planet.
I just can’t believe some of these people exist.
Why is she so worried about *HIS* feelings. Good lord lady.
If he met up in person, he probably physically cheated as well as emotional.
They sure as hell weren't reading newspapers!
Time for the male perspective- This is crazy- My wife and I have been in survival mode for many years, with health issues and four kids, my wife homeschooling. But when things slowed down for us in our relationship, I understood why and so did she. We just decided to start dating again like we did before kids, especially since the last one is almost 18yrs old- I mean looking at how she took my check and took care of our family and our kids all these years, even when things were tight- I couldn't imagine hurting her like that. I wouldn't need a therapist to tell me it was wrong- after 24 years of marriage, she is still my best friend, so this is crazy, what has the world come to when a wife has to ask is this wrong- I couldn't imagine our daughters and son not having a strong opinion about this if I was crazy enough to do it. Her husband is a manipulator- you can't discuss this outside of therapy and I am still talking to 6 of the 9 women. So, this is not how men act? Maybe in this new generation but family and marriage use to mean something, use to stand for something. She needs to take a zero tolerance stand, I sure know my wife would because she knows she deserves better than this and wouldn't except any less.
What is wrong with this woman??? She is an enabler. I feel extremely bad for her because she sounds like a great woman. I hope she leaves him and found herself a man who deserves her…I want to cry for her. Her husband is a horrible human being, not only he’s hurting his wife, he is also hurting his children. He is beyond disgusting!
What's WRONG with you? You DON'T know her
She's been emotionally abused by her toxic husband. That is what is wrong with her.
It doesn't help the counselor also warped her perception to question if it's considered cheating these days, and not until someone else said yes, that was her majority.
She’s scared of setting him off. No, it doesn’t sound like she feels safe. This is so crazy. As a mother of four my heart goes out to her but her kids will see this as “marriage” and it’s not. Not an acceptable way to treat a person.
This woman is broken! Broken!!!! I have no words. This is madness
Sister, you deserve way better than having to ask this question