The Falcon & The Winter Soldier isn’t essential but it could’ve been

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  • @lzccx
    @lzccx 3 года назад +57

    “the characters were more interesting than the plot they put them in” is a great way of summing this show up. i love the characters and what they set up as an arc for each one, but the “resolution” felt more like a fizzle out than a thought-provoking bang

  • @charlieesparza9109
    @charlieesparza9109 3 года назад +132

    idk why disney ever thought it was a good idea to put such intricate storylines (as marvel always is) in 6 episodes as if that was nearly enough time to explore all 5 main plots (sam as cap, buck's ptsd, the power broker, john walker and the flag smashers) how they should be explored smh

    • @ginime_
      @ginime_ 3 года назад +11

      They should’ve dedicated at least one whole episode for each of those themes. Then brought them back together at the end. Sharon’s part especially left me like...what?

    • @charlieesparza9109
      @charlieesparza9109 3 года назад +3

      @@ginime_ yeh, i feel that. for me the whole sharon sitch just felt like a set up for a future film/series and they kinda didn't know how to introduce it so they just shoved it in FATWS.

    • @jacklinton4885
      @jacklinton4885 3 года назад +1

      Yeah they should have made the flag smashers a generic terrorist threat that were essentially just a reason for everyone to band together, cut the power broker "mystery" and just had Sharon help them and reveal her as the power broker immediately (possibly even just to the audience if they don't want Sam and Bucky to know about it) then spent most of the time on Sam as Cap, with the two conflicts there being the racial side of it and the Walker situation, then have the Bucky ptsd as the B story. Plus add in one or two episodes, or make them 10-15 minutes longer, so they can actually explore some of the interesting plot points a bit more.

  • @erads2185
    @erads2185 3 года назад +135

    I think Bucky and Sam's arc are the only essential viewing in this show, they needed to show why Sam deserves the mantle because in previous films he's just been a guy in the back character, this show shows why he deserves it, also Bucky has such a good arc in this that needed to be addressed, aside from that, it is a slightly above mediocre show I'd say

  • @livgreenwood8521
    @livgreenwood8521 3 года назад +86

    I liked Falcon and The Winter Soldier, and absolutely loved WandaVision but I think the problem with both is they deliberately limit how many episodes they do. Like falcon and the winter solider is only 6 episodes??? But they spend a couple of the episodes really dragging parts of the plot out then rush through things in the last episode. They kind of did the same thing with WandaVision, but had a few more episodes to really dig into stuff. So yeah I think the main issue is the amount of time they’re giving themselves with the shows, a few more episodes and they probably could have dug into the themes and issues better.

  • @mrsundaymovies
    @mrsundaymovies 3 года назад +228

    Great summation, cheers Jack!

    • @JackHoward
      @JackHoward  3 года назад +62

      Thanks for watching babes

    • @thomasjennings2585
      @thomasjennings2585 3 года назад +15

      What an ambitious crossover

    • @salamipuddin4206
      @salamipuddin4206 3 года назад +21

      Dunno why, but it always brings me joy when 2 RUclipsrs that I'm subscribed to acknowledge each other's content when I thought that neither knew the other even existed.

    • @Lanz1964
      @Lanz1964 3 года назад +9

      get him on the poddo jameeeees!

    • @heretoschmooze348
      @heretoschmooze348 3 года назад +5

      Get Jack on the pod why don’t we?!?

  • @BlogManiac64
    @BlogManiac64 3 года назад +87

    zemo breaking out of prison could have been SO much bigger

    • @ellaelliott4415
      @ellaelliott4415 3 года назад +1

      I would’ve loved to explore Zemo’s background more

  • @miaeccy77
    @miaeccy77 3 года назад +20

    I feel like Marvel have a great way of setting up incredibly interesting sub-plots (Bucky's PTSD, people coming back from the blip etc) and then rushing over them to make room for the main plotline, which in my opinion, is never as interesting.

  • @Vvviktor116
    @Vvviktor116 3 года назад +67

    Can't wait to watch your next video about the shrek trilogy

    • @maugdw
      @maugdw 3 года назад +6

      Um quadrilogy

  • @ruthisaiah3857
    @ruthisaiah3857 3 года назад +112

    I gotta say that I did really love this show despite the fact that it was ..."mediocre" in various aspects. I guess the most
    strange but fun thing to see was, two marvel characters doing very ordinary things like fixing a boat. The "normalness" was kinda for me to watch.
    Another thing I REALLY loved about the show was the part where we got to see Sam Wilson
    training with the shield. Which we obviously never saw with Captain America. It emphasized the fact that
    Sam was just a regular guy who decided to take on the mantle.

    • @meme101RE
      @meme101RE 3 года назад +5

      Broooooo that’s what I’m saying! I feel like most of the people saying the show was “mediocre” is mostly due to them not being hit as hard by some of the topics covered in the show. Like everyone wants more Bucky (ignoring the fact that the dude basically had two whole movies about his back story) I kinda get that but seeing Sam, a black guy who has a family and a boat and is from NO, was so cool to me as a black person. It meant a lot seeing Isiah’s pain and how it parallels the real feelings of those who fought for a country that hated them. Also I think it was really well done at that. It didn’t take over the overall story and it made a point without being corny. Which I also appreciate. I love Jacks takes but this show was a 9/10 for me. And most of the folks I talked to about it

  • @amanda-cs9xb
    @amanda-cs9xb 3 года назад +37

    I completely agree! i’m not sure the show needed the flag smashers at all, and if that hadn’t been a storyline all of the more interesting plots (isaiah bradley, john walker, zemo) would have had more screen time and been more developed. Loved the fact that they looked at Sams struggle with whether or not he should be cap, but needed to go further

  • @sanjanak2405
    @sanjanak2405 3 года назад +49

    Jack you summed up my thoughts perfectly wow especially the bucky parts, ugh why must Bucky continuously be underserved as a character

  • @ellieennes
    @ellieennes 3 года назад +15

    All my thoughts exactly! What bothered me is I loved the plot line of John going crazy but they “Danaerys-ed” him by making him go ‘mad’ for one episode, and then he’s redeemed in the next episode?! I want EVOLUTION plz

  • @bagdadspace
    @bagdadspace 3 года назад +25

    That’s a nice lamp in the background ngl

  • @SiggaLoa13
    @SiggaLoa13 3 года назад +15

    Yup, in general through this entire series it just felt like it was almost great but never quite got there. Like there was so much potential in the John Walker, Isaiah Bradley and Bucky therapy storylines that the show didn't manage to dive into. It was just trying to be so many things and tell so many stories at the same time that they all fell a bit flat. There were some great scenes and I did enjoy a lot of it but was always left with a bit of a disappointed aftertaste when each episode was over.

  • @thisismargi
    @thisismargi 3 года назад +8

    Yes yes! I felt we never got time with Bucky, to sit and process what he’s going through.

  • @PhoebeHB
    @PhoebeHB 3 года назад +3

    The flag smashers were just so weird because it felt to me like Disney were scared that people would actually agree with their viewpoint, which I know I did, and so they had them kill people and blow stuff up for absolutely no reason just to cement them as the villains. It didn't make sense with the rest of their characterisation, and they definitely could've fleshed John walker or the power broker out more and not needed the flag smashers in the show at all!

  • @sameoldsatellite
    @sameoldsatellite 3 года назад +5

    Zemo on the whole felt like a missed opportunity, especially with his purple mask (which would've been a nice homage to Thanos' look if that was referenced, but instead it's used only one scene for... reasons? Hide his identity? What?). His character also didn't feel that consistent with the more calculating and down-to-earth portrayal in Civil War, I felt the aristocratic background detracted from his "everyman" villainy (he single-handedly split the Avengers apart compared to say Ultron with his drones or Loki with the Chitauri; a supposedly ordinary guy with military training who lost everything) - but suddenly he has all these resources? Why wasn't it mentioned in Civil War that he was part of a noble family?

  • @KatelyBately
    @KatelyBately 3 года назад +7

    Agree with all of it! I had all the same feelings about how they check listed the story. Another thing is that we dont get enough of a backstory on the flag smashers to make us want to understand their cause or feel for them more.

  • @MyMelement
    @MyMelement 3 года назад +7

    I hope people don’t skip it just because they’ll miss bucky smiling. But i agree, great review

  • @ejets1715
    @ejets1715 3 года назад +4

    I haven't finished your video yet but OH MY GOD I agree so much with you about the final scene with Bucky and Yori, like why was it SO RUSHED?? it could've been a really great scene but it just really didn't deliver

  • @anastasiadiachenko1226
    @anastasiadiachenko1226 3 года назад +2

    I kept thinking that it needed MORE THERAPY and LESS FIGHTING

    • @JackHoward
      @JackHoward  3 года назад +2

      But he went to therapy once he should be fixed

  • @EditsbyEl
    @EditsbyEl 3 года назад +9

    I often try when I'm reviewing something to acknowledge how much creative work went into it whether I enjoyed it or not. Like it might not be the best thing you've ever seen but you know so much time and work went into it, so then it becomes impressive, if that makes sense.

  • @DanLayton
    @DanLayton 3 года назад +2

    I agreed very much, especially with the choice of beverage.

  • @charmer63
    @charmer63 3 года назад +3

    Waiting for an in depth breakdown of the entire Shrek franchise...

  • @KingKhanAbz
    @KingKhanAbz 3 года назад +5

    Thank you. I agree with everything you said! ☺🙌🏼 I wanted more but they glossed over Bucky's last scene with his Japanese elderly friend and whether or not if he should want to be Capt with the black super soldier storyline.

  • @morrisonben
    @morrisonben 3 года назад +3

    All the time I was watching it I was thinking the same thing, the story line felt like it was missing something. There were hints of a deeper story, but severely glossed over the entire way through. You put it perfectly, it felt like a checklist of a typical action movie/tv show.

  • @hannahryan9678
    @hannahryan9678 3 года назад

    I think the fact that I didn't remember the flag smashers name until you said it, and that I also don't remember what the main flag smasher person is called either, kinda shows that the whole series would've been better if it focused on sam struggling with becoming captain america as the main plot. I get that they wanted to have this "villain" where it's ambiguous if they're in the right or the wrong, but they could've done that as well if not better with the idea of a black super soldier being hidden from us, why he was hidden, who knew and didn't do anything like that's so much more interesting to me.

  • @JClucky13
    @JClucky13 3 года назад +16

    I feel like Isaiah was sidelined because at the end of the day the show is military propaganda.
    I did like that they didn't let us sit in the moment with bucky because either doesn't matter if he was forgiven or not. His redemption isn't about that. That was just my take on it though

  • @theJimgenie626
    @theJimgenie626 3 года назад +13

    Omg i never thought about that passing comment you made at the beginning. Having a whole episode just on Zemo breaking out of prison would've been so cool.

  • @niamhangelica
    @niamhangelica 3 года назад +1

    I saw someone on Tik ToK (I know we ignore theories since wandavision but hear it out) speak about why Bucky’s name didn’t change. It basically discusses that at the end of end game we see Sam get the shield and for viewers who don’t want the shows will now just see Sam as Captain America. So bucky’s story “technically” hasn’t changed because film people won’t know why and it’s will “ruin” it’s for them.
    & unfortunately since realising this, it’s answers why so many plots didn’t have focus or get finished. I don’t agree and I think it’s lazy but I think they cared too much about casual fans.

  • @ImAllexx
    @ImAllexx 3 года назад +26

    top video jack

    • @JackHoward
      @JackHoward  3 года назад +6

      Cheers bud :)

    • @vamshidarisi8400
      @vamshidarisi8400 3 года назад +1

      "avengers infinity war is the most ambitious crossover"

    • @juk275
      @juk275 3 года назад +1

      🤢

  • @levischorpioen
    @levischorpioen 3 года назад +1

    YES! Finally someone who also thinks John Walker should’ve been the main villain. This show never allowed itself to breathe. It didn’t know what to focus on. We didn’t need the Flag-Smashers, we didn’t need Zemo, we didn’t need Sharon. All those things could’ve been really cool in another project where it wasn’t used as interjection of what should’ve been the main focus of the show. We were promised a buddy cop show about Sam and Bucky and that’s just not what this show is.

  • @bethmia
    @bethmia 3 года назад +3

    i think one of my main problems with the show was that there were so many different storylines all trying to work together in such a short amount of time. and the ones i found the most interesting werent explored and developed as much as they shouldve been.

  • @markbeddoe4789
    @markbeddoe4789 3 года назад +1

    Great job on the oat milk, shame about the non recyclable paper cup......

  • @TokkiYamaguchi
    @TokkiYamaguchi 3 года назад

    I'm late here as I didn't watch Wanda or flacon til later and then forgot you made these but I made it and I wanted to say:
    YOU may not exactly want this channel just to be marvel reviews but my god I hope you keep going cause you obviously love it and so do I, it's great to listen to your angle as a filmmaker. (yes, yes you are a filmmaker, say it loud and proud)

  • @razzmatazzle1736
    @razzmatazzle1736 3 года назад +2

    I really enjoyed the show, but I'm glad I watched this because it's made me reflect on some of the stuff I just overlooked because I'm starved for marvel content. I think what they had in the show was great, but they needed to shift focus. More focus on Bucky's trauma, Sam's conflict about taking up the mantel, and more focus on John Walker as a villain and less on the flag smashes.

  • @FlammingtonStudios
    @FlammingtonStudios 3 года назад +1

    I actually never thought about how FATW is really not "Essential Viewing" Jack's right, the end of endgame, you can assume that Sam will take on the mantle of Captain America. They only brought up the conflict of whether he should, within the show.
    Zemo, started in prison, and by the end of the show, ended up back in prison.
    And Bucky, I feel was sidelined, they didn't change his name at the end of the show like "Captain America and the White Wolf" So he still hasn't fully abandoned the Winter Soldier persona which is his whole goal, meaning that'll probably be still to come.
    While this show does have a lot of interesting ideas and I still really enjoyed it, I can see it being skipped in a future marathon by someone and not really miss anything important.
    John Walker's introduction may be the only 'essential' viewing part of this, but depending on how to re-introduce him as US Agent in the next thing he shows up in, it may still not be all that important.

  • @AfroDaddy
    @AfroDaddy 3 года назад +2

    It's strange - I think it could have done more by doing less. There are just way too many themes here - where WandaVision focused just on the theme of dealing with guilt, this should have focused on either "blackness in the US", "global citizenship (ie refugee and who decides where people live)" OR "Not everyone is worthy to wield power". Also...that last monologue from Falcon...come on, man.

  • @hugablestpersonever
    @hugablestpersonever 3 года назад +2

    I believe the plot that they had to cut was very intertwined withthe flag smashers motivations, and I think that's why there's such a disconnect with them as relatable antagonists.

  • @hellohandhold
    @hellohandhold 2 года назад

    really loved your analysis! thank you for your hard work :) you're always a pleasure to listen to

  • @productionXerror
    @productionXerror 3 года назад

    Oh wow you put everything into words! It really did feel like a checklist they were going through

  • @BananerNostrebor
    @BananerNostrebor 3 года назад

    YES! This is exactly how I felt watching the show, and it's so nice to have someone put it into words.

  • @itsGabrielaCristina
    @itsGabrielaCristina 3 года назад

    Bang on review. I agree with most of what you said. I also struggle when shows or movies try to have competing villains? Like why? Just focus on developing one good villain (or team of villains).

  • @shelleychen4232
    @shelleychen4232 3 года назад +1

    This was 100% spot-on. I was really frustrated with the Flag Smashers storyline because they didn't feel like compelling villains, in fact I found myself being really annoyed whenever they were on screen. Their cause is not a bad one but their actions didn't feel like they led anywhere, it was just violence. John Walker was a much more compelling villain, especially the line where he told the senator "You made me!" At the very core of it, John Walker is pro-American imperialism and he is the product of US military propaganda and it worsens after he takes the super soldier serum. That contrast with everything Captain America/Steve Rogers and Sam Wilson stand for makes for a much better conflict than the Flag Smashers. And again, you got it totally right with the Isaiah Bradley storyline, which deserved more screen time, but I was pretty happy with the way they addressed it with the dialogue between Sam and Isaiah in the finale. Lastly, I was quite satisfied with the coverage they had been giving Bucky's recovery up until the finale, where again like you said, the scene where he confesses to killing his friend's son should have been longer and deeper. That scene needed more closure. I think there was a lot of potential in TFATWS but somewhere along the way, they lost it with the execution.

  • @andrew_4747
    @andrew_4747 3 года назад

    I have never said this about anything I've heard Jack Howard say before but: I completely agree with your take on this show, where it could have been and ultimately where it fell short.

  • @kkey_
    @kkey_ 3 года назад +2

    I really hope they will go deeper into some of the topics they talked about in the show in the future show or movie. The whole show feels a bit like a preview of what might happen next.

  • @hollybxoxoxo
    @hollybxoxoxo 3 года назад +2

    I completelyyyyyyyy agree and feel so vindicated, you essentially said verbatim all my thoughts whilst watching this show. ESPECIALLY the culmination of Bucky's arc, with the apology to Nakashima - that scene was so obviously cut down heaps for time and it completely ruined it, I so wanted to be able to sit in that moment and have a proper emotional, honest scene but instead it was like, so rushed and choppy and strange and frustrating.

  • @Larissa_KD
    @Larissa_KD 3 года назад +4

    100% agree, you definitely expressed my feelings way better than I could have hahah, it could have been so much more!

  • @oasis-wasteland
    @oasis-wasteland 3 года назад

    It really does boil down to:
    1- The show needed more time (10 episodes instead of 6) it felt rushed and most character progress seemed to happen off-screen.
    2- Focus on Sam Wilson, the Lead of this show, his past, his family, his journey...
    The villains (or Karli mainly) were only interesting when interacting with Sam.
    I just hope Anthony Mackie knows none of the show's criticism reflect on him, he was Amazing, did so much of what very little he was given.

  • @mariona713
    @mariona713 3 года назад +1

    Interesting thoughts, I definitely agree. However I did enjoy some elements of the flagsmashers, I think looking at the idea of post plauge prosperity and showing how it hurts vulnerable people when that goes away is definitely very interesting. I think it is maybe a plot that should have been explored more fully in a different show so we could really focus on Sam and Bucky's arcs in this one.

  • @sblibs
    @sblibs 3 года назад

    His hair is gaining its own gravity field and/or sentience

  • @aribailey8405
    @aribailey8405 3 года назад +1

    I totally agree. They could have done with maybe three or four more episodes. I want to know more about Sam's family, and Bucky's time in Wakanda!

  • @hiiiyyyaaaaaa
    @hiiiyyyaaaaaa 3 года назад +2

    Hot take: I was so so bored watching this after WandaVision. Just seemed like a really really long cap 4 movie, that somehow needed more scenes? But I fully agree and didn’t think about it before, focussing on the racial themes would have been so good!

  • @Scimarad
    @Scimarad 3 года назад

    I pretty much agree with everything you said BUT I have to say I still really enjoyed it, mostly because I liked spending time with these characters and I really liked a fair bit of the soundtrack. I'd happily watch a 'Sam & Bucky hanging out down in Louisiana' so I acknowledge I'm (as usual) not thinking in a critical manner.

  • @catherinejenkins5729
    @catherinejenkins5729 3 года назад

    Okay so the show starts with Sam giving away the sheild because he doesn't feel worthy or it doesn't feel appropriate to him but like for me there was no moment of revelation for him where he changes his mind on this. Like he has a conversation with Isaiah where he's basically told that it's not appropriate, and then he starts training with the sheild when he's at home like I felt that there should've been a moment where he realised that he could do good by becoming captain America, that he was right for the job but either I missed it or else it all happened in his head while he was working on the boat I don't know. I think that him and bucky winning the sheild off John walker should've maybe been saved as part of a climatic battle in the finale

  • @ctennyo13
    @ctennyo13 3 года назад

    You hit everything I had been thinking!!

  • @AtticusTsaiMcCarthy
    @AtticusTsaiMcCarthy 3 года назад +2

    FatWS gave me a bunch of what I wanted from MCU projects, but could have used two more eps to better flesh out stories and themes. I really enjoyed seeing Sam and Bucky characterized further, though.

  • @glrreid96
    @glrreid96 3 года назад

    I really agree with what you said about the plot kind of just being tick boxes.
    I loved wandavision so much that this felt like a let down.
    Apart from the heavier moments with Isiah not feeling big enough throughout I did love the light moments of Bucky and Sam hanging out fixing the boat, etc. I'd now like a buddy road movie type thing with the two of them because their chemistry was so great.

  • @cjc9548
    @cjc9548 3 года назад

    These reviews give me life 🙏🙏

  • @jameshodgkinson1260
    @jameshodgkinson1260 3 года назад

    Couldn’t have been more spot on Jack great video 🤝

  • @emilyanderson3193
    @emilyanderson3193 3 года назад

    This is interesting bc watching it I really loved the show; I love the characters, and some of the conflicts and moments and storylines. But Jack I feel like you articulated really well how I was left feeling not-quite-fulfilled. There are a lot of strands to fatws and diving deeper into fewer of those strands might've reduced that rushed feeling. (Or maybe more episodes would've worked better as a way of slowing it down? But I imagine there are other practical barriers with that)

  • @MrCalzone99
    @MrCalzone99 3 года назад

    Love your stuff, Jack Howard. Bangin' vid.

  • @Tazer_Silverscar
    @Tazer_Silverscar 3 года назад

    Many of the characters we've seen in this series have had very little in terms of actual appearance in the comics - in fact, Isaiah in particular only ever turned up in ONE comic (Truth: Red, White and Black), and he only ever met Sam Wilson in passing. He was definitely not involved character-wise on how Sam became Captain America.

  • @mickeleh
    @mickeleh 3 года назад

    Was ’t Bucky wronged Laertes? Never Bucky
    If Bucky from himself be ta’en away,
    And when he’s not himself does wrong Laertes,
    Then Bucky does it not; Bucky denies it.
    Who does it, then? His madness. If ’t be so,
    Bucky is of the faction that is wronged;
    His madness is poor Bucky’s enemy

  • @RespawnGod
    @RespawnGod 3 года назад

    I think it starts a bit slow considering how few episodes there were, I enjoyed the more realistic side of the characters seeing their lives when there's no big bad etc. seeing what a good soldier as Captain America became compared to a good man, echoing back to first avenger & then the "animal farm" syndrome of the flag smashers going from freedom fighters, where you understand where they're coming from but not understanding the repercussions of their actions resulting in them becoming essentially terrorists, I am quite interested to see what happens with USAgent and who and what avengers will be assembling in the future

  • @gaminggoon5974
    @gaminggoon5974 3 года назад

    Amazing video as always

  • @naomitiefenbrunn2857
    @naomitiefenbrunn2857 3 года назад +1

    See you soon when Loki's done airing! x

  • @greenfrog8367
    @greenfrog8367 3 года назад +5

    I think it was good. I liked it

  • @anythingbutcoffee5211
    @anythingbutcoffee5211 3 года назад

    ABSOLUTELY AGREE. After Wandavision I was quite excited to see what they would do - and honestly, I was also ready for more of a deep dive into Sam's and Bucky's story that would make me fall in love with them as characters more. Out of the huge group of Marvel characters they always were a bit "meh" for me. I'm a bit disappointed that after all these episodes my opinion hasn't changed much. The backstory with the sister and the therapy and all that stuff was heartwarming, but I still can't really connect after all those episodes. Might be more a me-problem, but Wandavision brought me so much closer to the characters than this show did...
    My biggest problem with the show - and I was a bit excited when you said it in the video - it wasn't necessary to watch the show. I don't mind it being mediocre because it was entertaining most of the time, but I expected it to be more "essential", as you put it and take something from it that I didn't see in the movies.
    Either way, great review!

  • @alicelyon2664
    @alicelyon2664 3 года назад

    yes!! this is exactly it, I really think the simpler would’ve been the better - we didn’t need 6+ underdeveloped ‘villains’ that didn’t really get any pay off or arc. Sticking with just john walker, the Isaiah storyline and maybe karli/flag smashers would’ve been so much cleaner and would’ve left more room for the little moments of character development that we were missing (like bucky and yuri etc) It really felt like bucky and sam were just observing what was happening around them and dealing with conflict as it happened and then moving on straight away. Would’ve also liked to have seen maybe some sort of flashback type moments to get to know sam and bucky more as well, like sam’s past before meeting steve, bucky in wakanda, etc etc

  • @kayleighmealing3414
    @kayleighmealing3414 3 года назад

    It will probably become essential for when us agent and Madame hydra comes more into the storyline and we use this as to know their introduction but yeah for now it’s not really essential

  • @peekabooicancu
    @peekabooicancu 3 года назад

    The show needed to be more subtle in addressing the themes, but at the same time, I get why they needed to be overt so there was no confusion of the message.

  • @colecerys123
    @colecerys123 3 года назад

    I completely agree with you

  • @mickeleh
    @mickeleh 3 года назад

    I largely agree with your take. A lot of missed promise. Potentially deep themes that whose treatment remained superficial. But I appreciate your taking a moment to acknowledge how damn hard it is to get anything of this scale scripted and made.
    -especially in a corporate environment when you are dealing with valuable intellectual property and brands.... in a pandemic, to boot.
    The two most interesting characters John Walker and Isaiah Bradley, but as presented, they are simply hints of the stories and themes they might have been. In episode 1, I found myself puzzled by the scene in the bank where Sam and his sister are turned down for a loan. Now it's clear that it's a set-up for the major theme of superheroing while Black.
    It seems that that major reason we don't understand what is driving Karli and the Flag Smashers is that we're never given any clear picture of the political economy of the blip or the return.
    It's a fascinating question: What do you think would happen if half the people on earth simply dematerialized-and came back? We're given a few glimpses in Endgame, Spider-Man: Far from Home, and WandaVision but we never get the whole story. Filling that out is surely beyond the scope of a Disney+ series... but without knowing what happened, we have no appreciation of the wrongs the Flag Smashers are trying to redress.

  • @TheLittleFangirl
    @TheLittleFangirl 3 года назад +2

    "The characters are more interesting than the plot they put them in" whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiich is why marvel fanfiction is so prolific lmao and most marvel products end up feeling so underwhelming, I really wished they trusted the characters themselves to carry their stories, which they 100% can (that's why Logan was SUCH A GOOD MOVIE btw).
    You voiced my thoughts on the show perfectly! The way Sam was sidelined for half of the show and often times used as a plot device was so bizarre, but I think they did a satisfying end of arc in the sixth episode (he's literally the only part that's working on that finale), and on the other end of the spectrum you have Bucky whose arc was really well done throughout the show but tthey dropped the ball in the last possible minute? I don't think the writers knew how to balance all they were juggling and that's why some scenes as units land well and others are aaaaa mess and feel very disconnected from each other. Frustration at the MCU hello my old friend. At least Sam and Bucky end up eating cake in Louisiana as they should.

  • @CowboyWizardsInc
    @CowboyWizardsInc 3 года назад

    Yess!! I love Jacks reviews :D

  • @jessaysmile
    @jessaysmile 3 года назад

    I’m enjoying the longer Beetles hair

  • @intotheunknown6736
    @intotheunknown6736 3 года назад

    That pretty much sums up my feelings, a lot of interesting plotlines, interesting characters, but no follow-through or earned gratification.

  • @ritacastagna
    @ritacastagna 3 года назад

    i agree with all of these points, jack! i wish this show had come LONG after wandavision. marvel would've had time to realize that their biggest successes come when they break their own formula, and they could have had the courage to take the nuanced internal conflicts (like civil war) and the non-actiony character drama (like the first half of endgame) and let them be the whole plot. the flagsmasher storyline (with the exception of sam's "don't call them terrorists" speech in the finale) was a sort of an unnecessary backdrop for those things that then took over most of the screentime. love all your points and loved the tidbit about wyatt russell auditioning for cap!!!

  • @kathbeezy
    @kathbeezy 3 года назад +1

    agree entirely, I don’t think there were enough episodes to give important storylines a chance - also felt like there was a lot lacking for Bucky. Is a shame as it was an easy way to make Sam cap and get him set up for new films but would have been great for the show to be it’s own thing and get marvel into the deeper storylines outside of the superhero stuff.

  • @adamalbertrowe
    @adamalbertrowe 3 года назад

    You are literally the only person who has the same thoughts as me about this show. Literally every word I agree with and was frustrated with. Everyone seems to love it but me but I’m not alone (that sounded less wanky in my head). Great review!

  • @EthalaRide
    @EthalaRide 3 года назад

    The show just feels redundant, like this is stuff you can exposit in the next Captain America movie. We don't need to know where Sam got his suit, all they would need to say is "The Wakandans wanted to help out." and Sam baaasically accepted the shield and the mantel at the end of Endgame "How's it feel?" "Like somebody else." _"Well it's not"_ And Anthony's acting in those 5 seconds sums up his entire arc in this show of doubt and insecurity, then acceptance and pride... only for him to go back on it and give up the shield, and go through that whole journey again, only spread out over 6 episodes, WHAT WAS SUMMED UP IN 5 SECONDS?!
    And Bucky's final confrontation with the father of the guy he killed should have been Sebastian Stan's freaking EMMY moment, they were building it up, that dread in the audience and in the character of knowing that _this is gonna be rooooough_ and... it was 5 sentences, cut, cut, cut, cut, and he's walking down the hallway, and apparently went on an apology tour off-screen so now he's all good. SO WE STILL DIDN'T EVEN REALLY _SEE_ BUCKY'S PROGRESS. ANOTHER thing that could have just been exposited in the next Captain America movie "Hey man, you make your way through the list like I told you? Doing the work." "Yeah Sam, Thank you." Because Sam knows how to counsel vets and Bucky's a vet so you can say they became friends THAT way.
    The only thing I can think of where they'd need to set up what's happening is Sharon breaking bad. We'll see where that leads and if it's really all that important that we know Sam got absolutely PLAYED by a bitter entitled rich white woman.
    Sam Wilson really needed more time focusing on him and explaining more of who he is as an individual, but I feel like the show fails in its main premise of telling us WHY Sam Wilson, above all others, should be the next Captain America. Because I was honestly more convinced and hyped at the end of Endgame than I was at the end of The Falcon and The Winter Soldier.
    They show us a bit but they don't pay any lip service to is, the fact that Sam's REAL SUPERPOWER is his ability to _talk people down and communicate._ He's able, at various points in the show, to communicate with people who seem radical in their views but are really dealing with a lot of hurt and pain (Karli is a terrorist but he tries to get her to open up about the real hurt that's driving her and how that's hurting others. Walker went ballistic and killed a dude on super serum roid-rage, but he's really just in agony over Lamar's death. Zemo is a supervillain who wants all Super Soldiers destroyed because that kind of power will always lead to radicals and zealots, and Sam knows its about the family he lost but he's able to bring up Bucky as not deserving of Zemo's vengeance, and Zemo doesn't disagree. Bucky is closed off and more alone than he's ever felt, but Sam gives him family and community allowing him to open up and be honest about his nightmares.)
    But NONE OF THIS is really pointed out or given lip service, Not the things that make Sam uniquely himself. No, they don't make it important to show _content of his character, just the color of his skin._
    I wish Sam's "you need to do better, senator" lecture at the end was more like Tyler Perry's oscar speech.

  • @moonriver2026
    @moonriver2026 3 года назад +1

    Here I was thinking I was the only one who felt some type of way about the show, but...great mind's think alike, Jack!

  • @lizlydslids
    @lizlydslids 3 года назад +18

    Jack Howard, the only way I consume disney+ content

  • @laurakojobeecham4872
    @laurakojobeecham4872 3 года назад +1

    Hey Jack, this is totally unrelated - but please please please can you do a film review for Sound of Metal. My favourite film of the year so far and I would love to hear what you thought about the Sound Design x

  • @Artsy444
    @Artsy444 3 года назад

    I think you just summed up everything I've been wanting to say nicely. I loved the show for the characters but the plots were not executed well. And about how it's marvel and we shouldn't expect something deep, that's all well and good if they didn't introduce deep themes in the first place. I wasn't expecting it but it's really frustrating when you get a really cool theme being explored only to fizzle out in the end.

  • @imperson6289
    @imperson6289 3 года назад

    You know what I half agree with this review. I think that the use of politic issues isn't the best for me r cinema as, for an example being me, I enjoy cinema to leave this world behind and not face an issues, but the idea of the secret black super soldier enjoyed me as he didn't feel necessary and only shoved in. If we was a important turning point then it would of been more interesting for the story. The best part about this show though was John walker as it was obvious that he was gonna turn evil but knowing that wyatt Russell played him and getting death threats but still playing him was fun to watch.

  • @samt.1780
    @samt.1780 3 года назад

    As a black person, I think I was surprise they even try to show us that stuff. Maybe more would have been better. But it was marvel thing, I wasn't looking for that, I was just rooting more for those character, discovers another par part of that super hero world, a bit more relatable ... and then, in a fucking marvel show, they tried. And even if they failed a bit, they tried. I think I almost cried at the police scene, when they tried to arrest him and Bucky is like "yeah just show your paper" like this is normal. Because it was there, on the screen. And seeing it recognize like that, in this mcu that i love, well that means a lot.

  • @DreamOnMaddie
    @DreamOnMaddie 3 года назад

    I completely agree, it's all in the execution. One of my flatmates binged the series before the rest of us sat down to watch it, so when we did all sit down together she signposted the 'important' sections and we honestly found ourselves talking through the rest of it. It got booooooring.

  • @commandercube0077
    @commandercube0077 3 года назад +1

    Love your videos jack but I was wondering where jack and dean went

  • @finbarlyons4042
    @finbarlyons4042 3 года назад

    Your hair is saving the world Jack xoxo

  • @noahschuh9221
    @noahschuh9221 3 года назад

    I agree with everything you've said in this

  • @joolzzz19
    @joolzzz19 3 года назад

    Yeees! I agree so much! So many interesting things in tfatws but they it’s like they couldn’t commit to any of them. I also thoroughly enjoyed watching the characters but the story was meh. I also wish they explored Bucky more with what he went through. Bucky and Sam are such a good duo so I think people liked it for them.

  • @styleisforever
    @styleisforever 3 года назад

    Totally agree!! I liked it but it left me feeling a bit empty whereas the sheer creativity of Wandavision left me in awe, reeling etc etc. I think when they decided to do the buddy team up it hamstrung the writers in terms of the stories they could do since Bucky and Sam really deserve their own stories. Bucky particularly has a wealth of backstory and resonance to be explored for 6 eps! It just felt like neither character was done any justice, which sucks. Hope they stay a major part of the MCU in the future, because this show only really scratched the surface.

  • @Sharpbunny2004
    @Sharpbunny2004 3 года назад +1

    I loved the show, it was the first thing I have seen which I felt had aspects i could relate to in regards to my race, but I can understand how those nuances the were interwoven into the show could be missed. For me the importance of portraying how difficult it would be to be a black man becoming CA was the thread that connected each of the episodes in the show. I 100% felt let down by the arc of John Walker but I am hoping that the show is part of the development of his character and how he will constantly be on the edge of right and wrong. What I love about and why I'm glad it exists is because when i have children and i force them to watch all of the MCU they will be able to see themselves, in sam, his nephews and his sister, they are no longer side characters or the best friend which they will see in the majority of the films. I am no TV critic, I love most things but this show has a special place in my heart, not for the plot but for what it represents to me and to many. (I do not speak for all people of colour I imagine there are many people who are black who would totally disagree with me)

    • @meme101RE
      @meme101RE 3 года назад

      No I agree!!🙋🏾I 100% totally agree! You said all the things I was thinking watching this video! It meant so much to me seeing this show! I thought the topics were very well done. And the script was 10/10! I think anything we were not satisfied in reference to John Walker and Bucky will be answered in later films or shows. But this whole series was a win IMO!

  • @aerynfletcher6690
    @aerynfletcher6690 3 года назад

    I agree with the fact that a lot of this was rushed and so much of it could have been developed more but I actually disagree with the essential viewing perspective. I think the point of making the TV shows rather than these stories into movies is that they aren't essential viewing and you can pick up from one movie to the next. Not every Marvel fan has Disney+ and probably not every fan will want to watch the TV shows (e.g Agents of Shield) and therefore they kind of having to make the shows skippable and focus more on characters rather than plot to a certain extent. Because of this I kind of think the show did well with that limitation. I do agree with many of the other criticisms and I would have liked to see more depth of all of the characters though!

  • @gibanete
    @gibanete 3 года назад

    i totally agree, the show is great but in the end i felt like everything was kinda superficial and it never adressed important things that happened, i got a little disapponted by it

  • @mar1983horrors
    @mar1983horrors 3 года назад

    100% this. Also what really frustrated me is that through John Walker’s arc the show is trying to “have it both ways” with the racism discourse. Because if on one hand we have Isaiah’s story (and I agree that it should have been the focus), on the other we have John’s. After a while I started having this feeling about John Walker, that he is the typical American white entitled drone with no morals who always gets away with it. The fact that he is aware he is a product of his environment doesn’t excuse him. He got those medals of honour doing shady stuff, he murdered someone because he felt like it, he insulted his best friend’s memory with a lie, he blew up any chance of defusing the Flag Smashers threat because he felt inadequate, he hesitated before trying to save hostages because he wanted revenge.... and still he gets away with all of it. Cracking jokes with Bucky and getting what he always wanted - a superhero costume. And sadly that’s all very American, because God forbid a “blonde hair blue eyes” gets punished the way he deserves.

  • @casperdevos1635
    @casperdevos1635 3 года назад +4

    What were your thoughts on what they did with Zemo?

    • @KydzPlays
      @KydzPlays 3 года назад +1

      I thought it was odd and wasn’t a fan. I know I’m a party pooper.

  • @bethanykate1955
    @bethanykate1955 3 года назад

    I love that I have even seen the Falcon and the winter solider and all I saw was picture of John Walker with shield and I instantly hated him