Mages Are BROKEN! Should You Play A Mage In Classic WoW?
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2019
- Yo! Soldiers of Classic! So...should you pick a mage in classic wow? Yes, yes you should. This is a straight propaganda piece for the Mage class in Vanilla WoW. Hope this doesnt make your class picking decision more difficult than it already is lol.
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What class should I play in classic wow?
class picking guide, mage, best class classic wow, best class vanilla
What class should I play in classic wow?
class picking guide, mage, best class classic wow, best class vanilla
What class should I play in classic wow?
class picking guide, mage, best class classic wow, best class vanilla
What class should I play in classic wow?
class picking guide, mage, best class classic wow, best class vanilla
What class should I play in classic wow?
class picking guide, mage, best class classic wow, best class vanilla
What class should I play in classic wow?
class picking guide, mage, best class classic wow, best class vanilla 
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DO NOT TAKE FROSTBITE IF YOU PLAN TO AOE FARM.....IT MESSES UP GROUPING THE MOBS. Otherwise, it's a great talent for leveling.
If you single target level its a must have.. but.. who in their right mind levels ST as a mage?
@@Domsridingworld Unless you get ahead of the pack at classic launch, a lot of aoe grinding zones will probably be quite crowded. If that's the case, a ST approach might be preferable.
@@Domsridingworld Someone with a drinking problem.
Single target arcane leveling have zero downtime. Most underrated spec ever. Mage have 25% wand dmg for 2 points, priest need 5 points. I leveled it faster than my lock.
Yet more blantant misinformation in his videos
If you like mage take it, if you dont like to play mage ... take it anyway to make money. If you dont play WoW consider to be a mage too
Making money is basically why I'm making one lol
@@garrettmccullough2249 yah I completely agree, however for the sake of completing content and getting the most out of the game. A friend and I are going warrior shaman so can we max money making professions like alchemy and enchanting while we farm dungeons non stop and reserve boe/crusader orbs to get our epic mounts. There will be no pvp ranks for a couple months so I will start leaving a mage on the side so that when pvp is launched I can get that amazing classic mage pvp scene going ;p
My thoughts are money will be better from doing the above stated than aoe farming at the start because of lack of gear and crazy high pops. Aoe grinding for money outside of instances will be out of the question.
@Arkh Longstride Whut? why xD i dont speak italian ...
Statte zit tu
@@whydoyouneedmyname6508 good luck reserving shit at start, no one will join you. :)
Punkrat, I'd love to see you turn this into a series where you brought the same energy/enthusiasm to every class.
Of course as a mage main since 2005, I'm pleased that you decided to lead with the true master class :P
Your channel is growing so much over your content, keep up the dedication and hard work its paying off @punkrat
Yes, everyone... roll mages. Tons and tons of mages...
*laughs in warlock*
Same here with my druid PepeLaugh
Cries in lock when they take your loot
Lol druid damage garbo
Logan Mondy who cares about damage when you’re getting fucked in wpvp
@@loganmondy3185 but the druid fucks the mage in 1v1 because he cant be controlled by the mage ;)
I saw a video from jokerd, and he actually mention frostbite being bad for aoe farming?
I think it was something about the monsters getting freezed will end up being split from the group of monsters, and then make it less time efficient.
But I might have heard wrong.
You heard right - you don't spec frostbite during aoe-grind
Yep
Yeah but don't let it stop you it's not that big a deal to throw in a FireBlast or soemthing to make up for it, if you want that talent for another reason like pvp or whatever, try it out, you can still make AOE farming work.
I thought he made a warrior hype video also. Has it been removed I can’t find it anywhere?
Could you post links to all these videos in future descriptions for ease of access?
Another great video! Just curious, what is the montage song @ 0:27? Seems like a solid PVP jam :)
The Legend - Fivedust - ruclips.net/video/gMVYZtMJ4-g/видео.html
Mage is the best class, scoring top 3 for almost any task + the amount of freedom mage gives you just makes it more entertaining. However I think strongest class (it's close) is priest with his all around kit and dispell. You have to be healer or constantly switch specs tho :(. The last potentially best class is warrior, mainly because it's best pick for pve.
Could you make a video about Warlocks? Overall potential and efficiency for levelling, Pvp?
Done
what's the metal song in the beginning?
I played a frost mage from launch until wotlk exclusively. Didn't even have an alt. The class was by far my favorite and pvp was a lot of fun but also took a lot of skill. I would do things like spam blizzard with the slow at choke points in alteric Valley so everyone would have to walk through it slowly taking damage while my team took them out. There were so many fun things you could do with that class. Like any class though, I had my moments sheeping and winning 2 v 1 and stuff but I also got destroyed and beat quickly. Just play what you like because in the end you will win some and lose some no matter what class you pick. I'm not going to play mage this time around.
Well said
I am very much in camp mage for vanilla, but I can’t really decide how I will spec. The fire shatter build looked pretty cool, but I would like more opinions.
So it's mandatory to re-spec fire for raiding, after Molten Core? Or is frost still viable?
Frost is still viable in BWL, since many of what's in there is resistant to Fire; but most Mages spec Fire for AQ40/Naxx40
Arcane any good to go ? I m thinking going arcane or fire . Have played too many frost wanna try something different :)
Frost is best for lvl'in and PvP for efficiency, usability and survivability. Fire is good once you hit AQ40, since most or all things there and Naxx40 aren't resistant/immune to fire. Frost is also massively efficient w/high crit chances even if it doesn't crit as hard as Fire. Arcane is good for duels and arenas (post-BC), but isn't worth much outside of that, unless you're w/a constant pack in PvP.
It's not efficient and is slow due to Fireball bein 0.5 secs longer, which makes a massive difference in PvP and mana efficiency for PvE.
Has been my main for 13 years, no intention of changing now!
So... for questing AOE frost and for PvP hybrid frost/fire are the best?
Have the same question
AOE frost. You get a lot more survivability and you can solo stuff by kiting.
Thanks ive been between hunter and mage and you go do a video like this and make me think more ....... Thanks alot punkrat lol
Frostbolt is also a binary spell, which means either hit or no hit, no partial resists like fireball.
would love to watch the cool montage in the beggining but i cant see it
How am I supposed to choose just one class as my main?
It's simple play one to start does not need to stay you're main pick what you prefer after trying them all, but get something to 60 to help fund the other's/Twinking if you currently play, play what you like most you'll have fun with it most likely get that up there play around have fun in classic mate!
Just have many alts! Like me.
There are best classes for each Phase. I’m gonna reroll every time meta changes
Play classic wow. It’s ez to decide.. because after some time investment... you wont be able to level another character ....
well, getting to 60 is 200+ played hours so it's time consuming to have more than 1 char
what about leeway on pve grinding on the real servers ? Isnt it much harder to grind in live version ?
Paladins are preferred in live servers, since they wear Plate and it's so easy to AoE farm w/them, while spammin melee moves that ignore armor; Mages are still heavily used, though, due to their ability to make their own food, cheap repair bills and high efficiency dependin on which spells you spam
I see a lot of streamers and high ranked mages in the video, most won't be playing like this. There are going to be a lot of dissapointed mages.
This is true. I'm predicting that, between all the hype over Warriors and Mages, the most common class in Classic is going to be...the reroll.
@@richie616 but no matter how bad u're with the mage, u won't regret leveling him to 60.
Cus u can now aoe farm, and when DM hits the scene, u're gonna be soooooo rich.
So leveling a mage to 60, and then rerolling to a more preferable class is hardly a mistep.
i'd say it's actually the right thing to do... lmao
This's true for everything in the world that requires skill: 90% of people'll never hit the pinnacle they're aimin for, so they'll blame somethin else, instead of themselves, when they're never able to achieve it
Really love your videos man!!!! So happy to have seen a new upload by you! Some constructive criticism: was the overlay during the mage video REALLY necessary? I feel it took away from the juicy mage highlights! Or if you do an overlay, use a variety of them for meme's sake. I wasn't fond of those green triangles covering the portion of the screen the whole time, switch it up! Anyway, love you man. I hope to see some more videos come out before classic releases. I hope I didn't come across the wrong way, nothing but love brother.
now that you made a mage video you need to do one for the others too
Lol! Agreed
Interrupts are a 1:3 ratio, so it's 10 sec lock-down to 30 sec CD; it was patched to 8 sec lock-down to 24 sec CD, not a 10 sec lock-down to 24 sec CD
In a private server I played on, you could infinite stack Ignite for an infinite amount of time. So a single mage in a guild would spec for maximum spell damage with gear like the spd necklace from Rag in MC and after 5 stacks of scorch would do a pyro crit on the boss. If the crit is large enough then the other mages keep scorching/fireballing to keep the ignite up.
The ignite will then continue to roll increasing in damage with every tick. If your tank is good enough, you can even roll to to 50 stacks or so. Then the ignite mage will use a threat clear pot to prevent a wipe and repeat. Crazy speed naxx kills.
That overlay was the most metal thing I've seen today. There is something so oddly satisfying about Pewds falling off his chair to awesome music
watched this, months ago, changed my mind from lock main. had the most fun playing wow since.
Love mage, it was my first and primary main since vanilla! AOE grinding and farming is so much fun!
same, was a troll mage in vanilla, mon
the overlay part was hard to see anything
I thought the same
Exactly
I saw everything fine 😁
guess just to old lol
@@Punkrat then ur blind AF or maybe you dont want sub's. Dislike the video only because of the annoying overlay
can someone tell me if there is something that lowers taken crit dmg in classic
Blocked attacks can't be crits, and the defense skill rating reduces your damage taken and chance to be crit (only applies to physical crits I'm sure), but other than that it gets calculated/reduced as any standard damage would, as far as I can recall.
my first wow char ever was a mage and I raided MC, ony and BWL. I do like the mage, raiding is kind of boring (lame rotation) but otherwise its a nice class. My fear however is that soo many player will roll a mage that it would be difficult to get a raid spot or some armor drops.
in private servers like 40-50% of the population is a mage.
I expect it to be almost the same in classic.
Great vid. When can we catch you on twitch?
Youre my favorite classic wow RUclipsr 👌 thanks 🤗
As a pvp warlock I approve this message. Everybody should play mage!
heh
rvorak helli locks....lel
ty man, u make me roll my shit over and over again close choices are warri/rogue/mage/hunter in kinda that order.... obvly. don't really wanna raidtank, rather the dps and looking fwrd to pvp alot aswell.... meh! ;)
Whats the song intro ???
You forgot to mention: Blink break stuns.
What’s the name of rock song?
0:32 songname?
Your voice is so fucking velvety smooth! Every time I hear your intro... I get so fucking hyped! CLASSIC WOW FUCK YEAH!!!
LOL, was never confused, loved WSG on my mage had sooo much fun xD
This is why i will always main Frost mage! gotta love em
Silence is 4 seconds, not 3 seconds with talents... priest silence is what, 5 seconds?
Mage is 10 sec lock-down w/a 30 sec CD, until later patched in other xpacs; which was 8 sec lock-down w/a 24 sec CD
cant wait to die 12312312 times to rogues before while leveling
Oh I forgot about mana crystals. I have been floating around your channel. And well just thought it was just typical wow channel. This video proved me wrong. I sub’d.
what addons are you using? can you tell All names please?
Oscar Brisola am also curious
Lol Frostbite on aoe build? get out of here! you obv never did one
Some Shadow Priest begs to differ... But yeah I would create a mage as a second character (Shadow Priest is my main priority, always dreamed to make one ever since I was aware of the game's existence but couldn't have the chance to even play vanilla or even retail).
Make the next video about Paladins! specifically holy for obvious reasons lol.
Is that a mage in frostfire with atiesh?
Nope I was an undead warlock in vanilla... and going to be one again in classic. As a conflig lock I use to eat mages and others for dinner... and them bodys really refilled my health.
Only had issues with hunters when it was even, and rogues that stun licked me. Some good warriors gave me issues.
Punkrat what are you running for classic?
Sl/sl anti everythings e except rogue lol, afflic pretty good but in my opinion theyre fairly even.
@@curtizmcintyre970 sl/sl wasnt truly viable until bc. You couldn't get deep enough to get both soul link and syphon life in vanilla. Pvp good locks ran dotdeath, conflig, sacdot, or sacdesto
@@jasonjones5422 its crazy its all such just a big blur now, though i definitely remember hunters being pretty much unbeatable as a mage.
Afflic locks next in line but not impossible, juke that fell hunter CS and its fair game!
@Clark Kent Cant fucking WAIT!! 😂
go orc if you're having problems with rogues. i was UD lock for so long now, going orc now for hardiness racial.
Good video, don't sleep on warlocks. Warlocks are consistently top tier in PvP later patches post-death coil fear and in PVE they're very solid with shadow bolt DPS backed by mana tap. Warlocks are very hard to deal with and just like mages they have so many tools and things to use compared to most other classes.
true, but soul shards are annoying to get
Nananana, don’t take frostbite, it will frick up your mob positioning and shit up.
doing this for every class ?
Look at all this salt Jerry. Would ya just look at it!
"The same can't be said in other classes"
lel
there are not many classes in this game.
There's the mage, and then there's the rest.
@@akhsdenlew1861 rogue*
3:00 whats going on in the whispers there bro? xD
What does it say??
bahaha the back to back spirit bomb without a 3 episode charge up bahahaha that was goooohhhhld'
Oath lmao
I mean no offense, but I found the PewDiePie montage with screamo music distasteful. The game play was hard to see and I had to turn down the volume on my iPad because it was blaring and distorted. Enjoyed the vid regardless 🧙♂️👍
YES agree
Hahah? 🥵
i like how you speak for 30 seconds and in the background an enemy stays in polymorph for the whole duration
already planning on playing fire mage
Why do you do this to me Punkrat? Just when I thought I was set on a class.
its fine dude, i probably play mage, lock, priest ,druid, shaman, paladin, rogue, warrior or hunter, ez pez
Me too lol
ive always been mage/rogue. and i cant decide if i wanna be mage or rogue at launch, im leaning towards rogue but videos like this make me second guess myself
if u absolutly wanna play rogue, just make sure to have a mage at 60 before DM phase hits the scene.
I mean, no sane person will skip these billions of gold right?
Mage or rogue still cant decide
Rage
Mogue
I saw the title and thought you were trolling, turn out you were serious 🤣🤣😏👍
Where did the Warrior video go?
For someone talking about AoE farming so much at the start, you should probably watch Jokerz' latest video on why AoE farming will suck in Classic.
I actually played a mage in real vanilla. It was fine, tons of ppl aoe farmed to 60. It just wasnt as op as it is on private servers
Mind linking the video draddock?
@@MrMrTravman
ruclips.net/video/ky3V7LJunEw/видео.html
@@Draddock TY bruddah
Why do you omit mana issue in all this?
ive watched so many of these videos, still cant decide, mage or wlock...
Meee too 😭
What you playing now?
@@niiqu5860 mage gnome and wlock undead, one of each to get it both. slow starting out but once i get going i think il be a beast on both :D . only need to find a healer now XD for when i wanna heal
@@niiqu5860 only downside i see with wlock is healing pet will be a snore.
I was debating playing mage again this time around but I think I'll go with something else. It's funny how aoe farming is one of the main selling points, used to be a niche thing back in the day. It was nice being able to farm 50g for a respec relatively fast, it's true what Punkrat says about specs.. Sometimes I would wake up in the morning to pvp elementalist AOE, get bored and switch deep frost, then end up PoM Pyro by nighttime. Good times!
most time with all clothies you will have busy work, providing them with something and another thing people forget to mention is how much you use wands to conserve your mana to make it last longer so you are not stuck drinking constantly.
for example a mages thing they provide is food and water, you will be asked to do this a lot.
a warlocks busy work lies in the soulshard farming since you use it for a lot of things, need to get a pet out, soulshard, need to summon someone? soulshard, want to use a specific spell? soulshard. craft a healthstone? soulshard, craft a soulstone? soulshard.
a priests busy work is buffing mainly as you will be asked to do this in every party you get and it will deplete your mana constantly forcing you to take extra mana breaks.
if you are ok with these things or you are actually thinking somehow that these are a plus for playing those characters then by all means go for it.
all clothies are really strong and should not be underestimated and they can be a lot of fun if you are willing to overlook these things for the more fun part of their kit.
I've spent months trying to decide between druid and shaman. Testing them vigorously. Now I guess I should check mage out as well! 0_0
Mages? Free food for my WL. They had 0 chance to win...
lol frostbite. All that does is make it so that your aoe pack breaks up and you end up having to wand a mob or two after you have no more mana.
...and then you face people using FAPs but hey we can always sheep and run/blink away. Unless it's a (feral) druid. Sure FAPs may not be common in phase one as there's no Honor (farm) but due to all the info and knowledge we have today compared to back in 2004/2005, don't be surprised to see quite many having those pots. Sure mage can use LIPs vs melee but that's 6 secs. FAP is 30 secs and especially when we get to phase 3 with BGs, doesn't matter if you're in a guild who speed rank level or casual one, it will be a common thing eventually to carry with you.
No arena in classic, pop a FAP potion! 😂
Hey Cozmoz! Saw your name on that Defcamp & Melderdon vid. Darkmoon Faire :)
@@YourRival777 I've been a member on their Discord and followed them for a good while. Also did a Deftalk with them recently: ruclips.net/video/nKiOWl2PkDo/видео.html&t=1 ^^
FAP does not affect mages, it affects everyone...stupid argument
@@curtizmcintyre970 I can translate that in a couple of ways but yeah the open world map is quite large to kite anyway =)
Do you think melee leeway will affect mages that much?
What is that
Most private server 60 firsts are mostly hunters and feral druids (actually). They solo quests like gods and have spells for move speed to help get to 40 faster.
Mages are godmode for aoe pullz or one shot killz tho.
Sike first lv 60 was a gnome mage
@@michaelvalcke819 well, layering might have played a role in that. But it doesn't change anything stated above.
People are exploiting layering to reset camps for endless aoe pulls.
3:00 Interesting chat
i played elementalist (frostfire) in BC era pvp and it played very well , shattercombo with fire is lit ;)
what about prot pala aoe grinding?
lol
Thanks for over populating all of the servers with mages.
Warning about shatter ignites: one of the two ignites would get "munched" or disappear, so you'd lose half your crit damage.
Really? Hmm, weird. If it works that way in Classic you could always just Fireball > CoC, or Frostbolt > Fireblast, etc.
Explain? why? how is it any different from getting 2 crits from a fireball/fireblast combo any other time (not frozen)?
You need to be a good mage to do well like you explain. These mage streamers are in the top 1% of players. The player base is not.
It took me years to master play my mage (played since day 1) i learned to play it well by the end of pandarean and ranked high on WoD and Legion, is not an easy class to play and i bet most of the new players trying classic mage will quit after they get to lvl 60 or 40 and roll and easier class as warlock or hunter. PS: i didn't played much mage on vanilla because my hardware and internet connection sucked very bad back then, so it was almost impossible to kite anything.
@@Krelian89 You're a slow noob then. Warlocks and Hunters are harder then mage, well known to be the lowest skill cieling/easiest class to get value out of in classic wow (Frostbolt spam in PvE, and endless utility and range + slows for pvp as well as sheep resets and iceblock resets that have 2 charges from a CD)
@@qweqwe1324 exactly, best thing about mage is that hes straightforward about his skills, you see the skill and youi know exactly where you wanna use it
It's also showin you some of the maximum potential of the class
Anyone else notice the amazing tell that came in at 2:58?
Good times...
I never played wow classic but I am so interested. I level a mage I think to 90 in the new wow then I had to boost to 110 also warlock but in the new wow warlock are much more fun but for classic I don’t k ow what to pick I hate warrior for no healing and you rely on potions a lot I am thinking paladín or any healer type class I I have never healed in a mmo before and want to try it
3:05 But prot paladins can too. Sure, it's not as effective, but they can absolutely pull shit tons of mobs and kill them similar to how mages can.
I thought the video bugged out but it seems that was your intention. I was down to priest or mage for wow and ended with mage because I like the looks of the sets more :p
The elementals Farm with dumpen Magic Work in 1.12? I think not... on privat Server he make only Spell dmg but on live1.12 he hit with meele dmg to.
Plus Dampen Magic is capped at 50% damage reduction.
It’s settled.....I’m definitely rolling a mage!!! Thanks Punkrat!!
What is that crazy awesome metal song you used in the beginning? I looked it up and the only thing I could find was The Legend by Fivedust and it's got this rando kid singing horribly over it.
lawl bro. I'll see you out there with my Cold blood dagger rogue. pop pop
@Thelondonbadger
You can 2 shot w/Blues as Subtlety Spec - I did it regularly pre-BC w/only AQ20 gear and pre-Molten Core
Whats the song name of that metal rock song in the beginning?
10:42 the horde mage just needed to use AE 1 more time but he decide to do nothing what the.. x)
You never spec Frostbite for an aoe specc, because it splits the group of mobs you wanna kite-aoe-kill ;) You also have more than 2 shields for damage: frost barrier=all dmg, mana shield=physical damage and frost/fire ward. Poping "all trinkets" only works in certain patches. A rolling ignite is in most cases a problem to thread, which needs good RL/mages to drop the ignite fast, which ends into boring casting spells others speel schools or YOUR ignite gets rolled by another mage and YOU pull the aggro. Aggro in PvE wasn't really mentioned in general, which in particular often leads to deaths at trash mobs! There is also a big difference between your PvE specc and what you can do with it in PvP ;)
What about evocation?
Shout out Thorax for pushing ignite meta on feenix.
Watching him farm Dalson's made my heart hurt.
What song do you always use, it sounds like a nice drive/smoke song
What's that badass 1st song!?
Making me want to play frost mage.
I encourage as many players as I can to roll a mage; I'll enjoy watching them fight it out over who gets my Power Infusion on raid night.
Dance, puppets. Dance. Mwa ha ha.
haha :D