I got the timore s3 and i got it for expresso. I got it in the green color. I was so scared beacuse i didnt see the reviews until i got it. Thankfully it was fine enough to grind expresso. The green one seems to be anodized so im thinking that the black one may be powder coated so its addining a few nano meters to the tolerance. I dont know for sure. I studied electrical engineering not mechanical so it makes sense to me at least with the limited skill set i have. Its just unproven theory at this point. I just noticed everyone who has been complaining about the particle size for some reason has it in the black finish. The finish on mine compared to the ones i see in the reviews look alot thiner. I have no way to tell for sure. It makes sense to me at least. This difference in finishes and its potential impact on grind size. Anodizing typically adds a very thin and uniform layer, which might explain why your green Timemore S3 works fine for espresso. Powder coating can be thicker and less consistent, possibly leading to the issues with particle size that others with the black finish are experiencing.
The easiest solution to grinding even finer is to add a super thin shim between the inner conical burr and the burr shaft coupler. Most conical grinders not grinding fine enough are solved this way. Edit: I’m holding my S3 right now and it has enough clearance to add a small washer. Just make sure it’s food safe. It still has more room to get a bit closer. If you were to use a conventional washer, then disregard the dial settings and just tighten until the locking nut doesn’t turn anymore
Yes and no. If you are a beginner in coffee the c3s is capable enough. If you have naturally a very good pallate or you've been brewing and tasting coffees for a long time then youll be able to tell the flavor differences
I have bought a ZP6 after my Timemore S3. Somehow I think the S3 ishas more clarity but not as enjoyable in flavor. But haven't done a side by side test as I dont ever see myself needing more clarity than the ZP6.
Great review as always👍... Josh I have the 078 from kickstarter. And I've read that the 078 grinder is better suited for light to medium roasted coffees. Would the S3 or the k ultra be a good complimentary grinder for filter/pour over to the 078 in offering a different taste profile ? I'm new to light roasted coffees and usually drink medium, and even on occasion medium to slightly dark
Hi there, I would say the 078 it's actually a pretty good all rounder grinder for light to dark roasted coffee. The S3 when compared to the 078 is not as clean of a profile. I would say just stick with the 078 as the difference are not too obvious at least for beginners, better to utilize your resources on brewing equipment like the hario switch and so on, and to find a recipe or technique that works best for you.
Thank you for the very detailed review. So is the burr of the S3 touching each other slightly at a level of 0-0.8? Is that normal? I just bought an S3 recently and I heard a sound similar to your clip at minute 7:29 so I'm a bit confused.
Hi, thank you for your reviews on S3 and C3S pro. May i ask which one would you recommend more? Because over here in Indonesia the price doesnt differ a lot (less than $30 differences). I was aiming for the K6 but due to the rust issue and the price (double the C3Spro) now looking at C3S pro or S3 ^^, thank you
Great and informative review! I'm strongly considering this as i want to up my coffee game from a ceramic burr hand grinder. I've also looked at the 1zpresso k ultra. Would you consider this as good as the 1zpresso K ultra? I'm only going to use it for pourover, French press and aeropress, so the nonexistent espresso grind setting is not really important to me. Its quite a lot cheaper than the k ultra, which is why i have it my sight 🙂
Hi there if that's the case yeah definitely recommend the s3 over the k ultra just because of the price. The k ultra is in a different league, it's together with the commandante c40 mk4 and so on.
@@hisbrewcoffee thanks for the answer 🙂 When you say the k ultra and the C40 is in a different league, would you say that they are much better than the S3 (for pourover) or do they only produce marginally better coffee? 🙂 For reference the S3 is 165 usd and the k ultra is 270 usd where I live
@BlackwingDK they are different league in its price and taste profile too. But it also depends on how train your palate is towards coffee. If you are just a beginner you probably won't be able to tell the differences between both. But if you've got a good palate or been tasting coffee a long time then yes you'll be able to tell the differences
How does this compare to the Kingrinder K6 and 1Zpresso ZP6?
Also does anyone know is the MHW3Bomber R3?
I got the timore s3 and i got it for expresso. I got it in the green color. I was so scared beacuse i didnt see the reviews until i got it. Thankfully it was fine enough to grind expresso. The green one seems to be anodized so im thinking that the black one may be powder coated so its addining a few nano meters to the tolerance. I dont know for sure. I studied electrical engineering not mechanical so it makes sense to me at least with the limited skill set i have. Its just unproven theory at this point. I just noticed everyone who has been complaining about the particle size for some reason has it in the black finish. The finish on mine compared to the ones i see in the reviews look alot thiner. I have no way to tell for sure. It makes sense to me at least.
This difference in finishes and its potential impact on grind size. Anodizing typically adds a very thin and uniform layer, which might explain why your green Timemore S3 works fine for espresso. Powder coating can be thicker and less consistent, possibly leading to the issues with particle size that others with the black finish are experiencing.
The easiest solution to grinding even finer is to add a super thin shim between the inner conical burr and the burr shaft coupler.
Most conical grinders not grinding fine enough are solved this way.
Edit: I’m holding my S3 right now and it has enough clearance to add a small washer. Just make sure it’s food safe. It still has more room to get a bit closer. If you were to use a conventional washer, then disregard the dial settings and just tighten until the locking nut doesn’t turn anymore
Is the difference in grind uniformity worth the higher price compared to the C3s? For pour over.
Yes and no. If you are a beginner in coffee the c3s is capable enough. If you have naturally a very good pallate or you've been brewing and tasting coffees for a long time then youll be able to tell the flavor differences
I currently have a C2 (replaced with the nicer burrs too) - is it worth it to buy this as an "upgrade"?
I have bought a ZP6 after my Timemore S3. Somehow I think the S3 ishas more clarity but not as enjoyable in flavor. But haven't done a side by side test as I dont ever see myself needing more clarity than the ZP6.
Great review as always👍... Josh I have the 078 from kickstarter. And I've read that the 078 grinder is better suited for light to medium roasted coffees. Would the S3 or the k ultra be a good complimentary grinder for filter/pour over to the 078 in offering a different taste profile ? I'm new to light roasted coffees and usually drink medium, and even on occasion medium to slightly dark
Hi there, I would say the 078 it's actually a pretty good all rounder grinder for light to dark roasted coffee. The S3 when compared to the 078 is not as clean of a profile. I would say just stick with the 078 as the difference are not too obvious at least for beginners, better to utilize your resources on brewing equipment like the hario switch and so on, and to find a recipe or technique that works best for you.
@@hisbrewcoffee thanks Josh... Continued success with your channel🙏👍💪
Thank you for the very detailed review.
So is the burr of the S3 touching each other slightly at a level of 0-0.8? Is that normal?
I just bought an S3 recently and I heard a sound similar to your clip at minute 7:29 so I'm a bit confused.
For normal hand grinders at 0 point it should touch each other until the crank handle cannot be move. But this is still movable.
@@hisbrewcoffee Thanks for replying. I use it for pourover and colddrip so probably not a problem :D
@WINTFOX yeah as long as not for espresso it's all good.
Hi, thank you for your reviews on S3 and C3S pro. May i ask which one would you recommend more? Because over here in Indonesia the price doesnt differ a lot (less than $30 differences). I was aiming for the K6 but due to the rust issue and the price (double the C3Spro) now looking at C3S pro or S3 ^^, thank you
Hi there if you are not looking to make espresso and if price is not an issue definitely the S3. As the flavor clarity is clearer.
Great and informative review!
I'm strongly considering this as i want to up my coffee game from a ceramic burr hand grinder.
I've also looked at the 1zpresso k ultra.
Would you consider this as good as the 1zpresso K ultra?
I'm only going to use it for pourover, French press and aeropress, so the nonexistent espresso grind setting is not really important to me.
Its quite a lot cheaper than the k ultra, which is why i have it my sight 🙂
Hi there if that's the case yeah definitely recommend the s3 over the k ultra just because of the price.
The k ultra is in a different league, it's together with the commandante c40 mk4 and so on.
@@hisbrewcoffee thanks for the answer 🙂
When you say the k ultra and the C40 is in a different league, would you say that they are much better than the S3 (for pourover) or do they only produce marginally better coffee? 🙂
For reference the S3 is 165 usd and the k ultra is 270 usd where I live
@BlackwingDK they are different league in its price and taste profile too. But it also depends on how train your palate is towards coffee. If you are just a beginner you probably won't be able to tell the differences between both. But if you've got a good palate or been tasting coffee a long time then yes you'll be able to tell the differences
@@hisbrewcoffee I see, thanks a lot 😊
@@hisbrewcoffee BTW are you by any chance familiar with the 1zpresso x ultra? It's roughly the same price as the S3
How is it that it struggles with espresso despite having 5 micron increments?
The lowest setting or 'zero' is not fine enough to grind for most coffee beans for espresso setting.
Hmm that’s baffling. Why even make a manual grinder with that fine of an increment without having it dial low enough for espresso lol
It has 15 micron settings and the 0 setting on mine choked a sage touch. There's some inconsistencies in the models in the market
Great video! posting to give you some engagement. cheers ;)
Thanks for that!