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The S3 is exceptional value. It feels way more premium than the other C3 grinders and the external adjustment feels extremely good. My only complaint with the grinder is that I wish they made the feedrate slower. Light and medium roasts can only be ground if you swirl the grinder while grinding and thus decreasing the feedrate of the beans.
Hello! Wondering if you had a suggested grind setting for the Timemore S3 with your delicious Hario Switch recipe? Just picked one up today thanks to a sale at Amazon and very excited to get grinding with it! Thanks in advance!
Fish smart pro is versatile for all round home use, but I do prefer kettles with flow restrictor. I damaged my wrist and holding it for a long time for slow pour is a struggle.
Don't you get a very consistent weight out anyway when using a direct lever? I basically completely stopped using my scale to weigh the output of my pavoni since I get 36-38g out every time very consistently so if I just dial in all my shots using a fixed output I have 0 reason to weigh it anyway. I would imagine the Robot is very similar.
I NEED SOME HELP! Im soooo torn between the S3 and the K6. I have the option to buy the k6 for 99€ new or the S3 for 80ish barely used (just 2 weeks of usage), is the k6 worth the 20€ difference? I have zero interest for espresso capabilities so l'm just interested in V60/aeropress
@@coffeechronicler what’s the best choice for clarity and acidity between the two? I only brew very light Nordic style coffee and I love to feel that vibrant acidity
I have the 078 grinder from Kickstarter ...I'm new to lighter coffees and also into medium ...and even on occasion I enjoy medium- slightly darker beans... would the S3 be a good complimentary match ...or you still prefer the k ultra? 🙏👍
In the metal frame with pad on and off - yes, great fit. In the rubber drip tray, you are contacting the corners even without the rubber padding on. On an elevated third party drip tray like the common metal one we see with the “f” logo, it fits comfortably without the rubber padding, little bit of contact with it on and needs to be zeroed again.
Is your old kettle the 600ml (1000W) or 800ml (1500W)? I think the new Pro Kettle (900ml) is 1350W. If you have the 800ml, that would explain the difference in heating time.
I have the black mirror basic and looking for a more travel friendly option that does not compromise too much the UX. Would the mini fit that bill? Or is it too small for daily pour over or French press usage? Tak 😊
@ The Coffee Chronicler With which delta does the kettle reheat, e.g. after reaching the set point of 95C does it start heating at 94C or 93C. That was an annoyance to me with the old Fish which only startet with a 2C delta.
For the s3 did you try grinding it for espresso? We couldn't get it to be fine enough for espresso even at 0 setting. Wondering if you are experiencing the same thing
You stated in your written review that you mixed the S3 up with an 078 a couple times in blind testing? Would it be correct that these were medium roasts that got mixed up?
Does your Black Mirror mini have a problem with precision? Mine has a slight “jumping” up to 0,2g, so it jumps from 15 grams to 14,9 or 15,1 while standing still on a leveled surface.
Thanks for the review my friend. Is it worth upgrading my c3 to s3? Also, if u can compare it with the kingrinder k6 because they're at the same price in aliexpress, i already have Zp6 but I'm looking for a grinders with it to give me some body and sweetness 😅
i bought the old version of the kettle on the basis of your review and was so dissapointed with the boil time. It takes twice as long as you state to boil 500ml of water at room temperature. Other reviews seem to confirm this.
I just ordered the Nano because of a discount via the electric grinder order, but maybe I’ll ask for a swap to the Mini. Main question: Did you feel that the change to a flat display vs the slant of the Nano was a downgrade in usability? It seems nice that it faced you more directly vs straight up, but I’m curious why they decided to undo that.
As I mention, it's a bit awkward to touch the Nano buttons on the side. It just doesn't feel natural. So even though the slanted display was quite cool, the new scale just has a better UX.
I have to add, I use a Nano in a daily basis, if you come from Timemore or other scales it can be weird, but after a few pours it just becomes muscle memory, it is also something that you could use if you use a big brewer or cadafe like a chemex that could cover the buttons in the top.
I own a bit of Timemore gear and have found all the stuff to be quite good. I have a smaller hand grinder from them that won't do espresso either, but is excellent for my Aeropress travel kit.
@@coffeechronicler I have another grinder from Yukaofes that has the same burrset, which seems like an incredibly bizarre burr design. Unfortunately you're not here in the states otherwise you could pick up what I presume are amazon review samples off of fleabay for a ridiculous discount. I'm 99% sure the Yukaofest grinder is made by the same factory that makes the high end Timemore grinders. I'm still trying to make heads or tails of it of it since my only other grinder is a 10 year old encore.
I may be in the minority of people who prefer the buttons on the side of the Nano. I have the full size Black Mirror and I have accidentally pressed the top buttons when swirling my V60, never happens on the Nano. I love the angled screen too, the glare in my kitchen makes top-facing screens a little harder to see.
The Nano is super annoying with the buttons on the side. I really like my basic pro. Update on the hand grinder burr would have been nice, since the timemore’s are always on the lower clarity rating. With the Sculptors being so well perceived in regard to grind/flavor, picking up on the hand grinders would have been neat
I purchased the S3 and I don't like it. It only has 10 clicks for espresso. I used it with 3 types of coffee beans and on the finest grind size it is still not fine enough. Coffee (30grams) runs in 12-14 seconds. Way too fast. Next to this, the grip of the grinder is awful. And the exterior is hard to clean. Be aware: not suitable for good espresso!!
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The Black Mirror is really good. Fast, good functions, no useless smart connectivity, sleek design and good size, all at an affordable price.
Yes, please, more comparisons for the Timemore S3! Considering it seriously. Not interested in espresso, would only do manual (Aeropress and V60).
The S3 is exceptional value. It feels way more premium than the other C3 grinders and the external adjustment feels extremely good.
My only complaint with the grinder is that I wish they made the feedrate slower. Light and medium roasts can only be ground if you swirl the grinder while grinding and thus decreasing the feedrate of the beans.
You have to view it as a fitness product then its perfect 😅
i also have the old version of the kettle. YOU CAN JUST PRESS THE ENDS OF + AND -, it'll adjust by 1 incrementally
Hello!
Wondering if you had a suggested grind setting for the Timemore S3 with your delicious Hario Switch recipe?
Just picked one up today thanks to a sale at Amazon and very excited to get grinding with it!
Thanks in advance!
Fish smart pro is versatile for all round home use, but I do prefer kettles with flow restrictor.
I damaged my wrist and holding it for a long time for slow pour is a struggle.
Does the new scale fit under Cafelat Robot without any tricks?
Unfortunately, just a smidge too wide
@@coffeechronicler Ehh..., maybe next time, thanks!
Don't you get a very consistent weight out anyway when using a direct lever? I basically completely stopped using my scale to weigh the output of my pavoni since I get 36-38g out every time very consistently so if I just dial in all my shots using a fixed output I have 0 reason to weigh it anyway. I would imagine the Robot is very similar.
You can pull pretty long shots on the Robot, so a scale is definitely handy
Just gerning into pour-over and looking for my first kettle.
Which would you choose of the timremores? Or is the fellow a better choice?
In terms of filter coffee, would you say there is a very noticeable increase in flavor and clarity compared to the C2/C3 grinders?
Yeah, it's a pretty clear upgrade!
The original s2c burr in my opinion is pretty bottom barrel so it should be an upgrade.
I'm hoping there are more entries into hand grinders for espresso at this price
I NEED SOME HELP!
Im soooo torn between the S3 and the K6. I have the option to buy the k6 for 99€ new or the
S3 for 80ish barely used (just 2 weeks of usage), is the k6 worth the 20€ difference? I have zero interest for espresso capabilities so l'm just interested in V60/aeropress
I'd go for the S3. The UX and feeling is top notch, and the flavors are great too.
@@coffeechronicler what’s the best choice for clarity and acidity between the two? I only brew very light Nordic style coffee and I love to feel that vibrant acidity
I have the 078 grinder from Kickstarter ...I'm new to lighter coffees and also into medium ...and even on occasion I enjoy medium- slightly darker beans... would the S3 be a good complimentary match ...or you still prefer the k ultra? 🙏👍
It would be interesting to compare the S3 with the C3 Series.
Couldn't stop myself from looking at the La palvoni at the back ! Is there any review about it any soon ??
Maybe. Probably :)
Does the new black mirror fit in a flair 58 base?
In the metal frame with pad on and off - yes, great fit.
In the rubber drip tray, you are contacting the corners even without the rubber padding on.
On an elevated third party drip tray like the common metal one we see with the “f” logo, it fits comfortably without the rubber padding, little bit of contact with it on and needs to be zeroed again.
@@khungreen9773 thank you for the very detailed response!
Hi, can you make a comparison with the k6? Thanks.
Have you tried any MHW3BOMBER coffee products besides the Sniper? I am very interested in your opinion of their R3 manual grinder.
Is your old kettle the 600ml (1000W) or 800ml (1500W)? I think the new Pro Kettle (900ml) is 1350W. If you have the 800ml, that would explain the difference in heating time.
It's the 800 ml version, so that might be an explanation.
I have the black mirror basic and looking for a more travel friendly option that does not compromise too much the UX. Would the mini fit that bill? Or is it too small for daily pour over or French press usage? Tak 😊
Does the kettle hold the temperate without boiling it again to the temperature set?
Yes, you have both hold and heat to tempereature function
does the mini scale enter in between the Cafelat Robot legs?
Not completely, but you can sort of get a corner in there.
the new kettle is slower heating up? how is that? it has 1350 w vs 900 w of the old kettle
@ The Coffee Chronicler With which delta does the kettle reheat, e.g. after reaching the set point of 95C does it start heating at 94C or 93C. That was an annoyance to me with the old Fish which only startet with a 2C delta.
Traveling at the moment, so can't verify. But yes, believe it was about the same.
@@coffeechronicler would you double check for me :)
For the s3 did you try grinding it for espresso? We couldn't get it to be fine enough for espresso even at 0 setting. Wondering if you are experiencing the same thing
Patience - will get to it 😉
I pulled some pretty awful shots using the S3. Was convinced the alignment was off. I've since returned it.
@@funkyphonicsmonkey Sad to hear, it's not just my unit. Seems to be a pattern.
@@coffeechronicler we detected the same thing too that it couldn't find fine enough. Havent really put it to the test. with filter brewing.
What would be the starting range for aeropress? The Aeromatic app does not have this grinder yet.
You stated in your written review that you mixed the S3 up with an 078 a couple times in blind testing? Would it be correct that these were medium roasts that got mixed up?
@@chahahc I can't remember exactly which beans it was, but I mainly drink lighter roasts for pour over
Does your Black Mirror mini have a problem with precision? Mine has a slight “jumping” up to 0,2g, so it jumps from 15 grams to 14,9 or 15,1 while standing still on a leveled surface.
I just bought the chestnut x and c3esp pro 🤔🤔
s3 is better hands down
Thanks for the review my friend. Is it worth upgrading my c3 to s3? Also, if u can compare it with the kingrinder k6 because they're at the same price in aliexpress, i already have Zp6 but I'm looking for a grinders with it to give me some body and sweetness 😅
i bought the old version of the kettle on the basis of your review and was so dissapointed with the boil time. It takes twice as long as you state to boil 500ml of water at room temperature. Other reviews seem to confirm this.
Sorry to hear that. It turns out there's also a small version (600 ml) of the old kettle, which has less power. Perhaps that's the one you got?
@coffeechronicler it is, I didnt realise that there was a difference. At least I can still return it and get the higher power version
I just ordered the Nano because of a discount via the electric grinder order, but maybe I’ll ask for a swap to the Mini. Main question: Did you feel that the change to a flat display vs the slant of the Nano was a downgrade in usability? It seems nice that it faced you more directly vs straight up, but I’m curious why they decided to undo that.
As I mention, it's a bit awkward to touch the Nano buttons on the side. It just doesn't feel natural. So even though the slanted display was quite cool, the new scale just has a better UX.
I have to add, I use a Nano in a daily basis, if you come from Timemore or other scales it can be weird, but after a few pours it just becomes muscle memory, it is also something that you could use if you use a big brewer or cadafe like a chemex that could cover the buttons in the top.
I own a bit of Timemore gear and have found all the stuff to be quite good. I have a smaller hand grinder from them that won't do espresso either, but is excellent for my Aeropress travel kit.
Yeah, it seems like espresso is not a big focus for them. Yet...
Do you know what the recommended starting point is for aeropress? I know it’s a bit finer than v60
Hello, do you know the mill of MHW-3BOMBER BLADE R3? Do you recommend it ? You can do a versus
Don't have experience with it, but it's on my radar ;)
@@coffeechronicler I have another grinder from Yukaofes that has the same burrset, which seems like an incredibly bizarre burr design. Unfortunately you're not here in the states otherwise you could pick up what I presume are amazon review samples off of fleabay for a ridiculous discount. I'm 99% sure the Yukaofest grinder is made by the same factory that makes the high end Timemore grinders. I'm still trying to make heads or tails of it of it since my only other grinder is a 10 year old encore.
The pro kettle is not availale for north american markets
It's probably just a matter of time. If you're adventurous there's always Aliexpress :)
@coffeechronicler I checked its 220v only sadly at the moment.
I may be in the minority of people who prefer the buttons on the side of the Nano. I have the full size Black Mirror and I have accidentally pressed the top buttons when swirling my V60, never happens on the Nano. I love the angled screen too, the glare in my kitchen makes top-facing screens a little harder to see.
No idea why they changed the actual kettle the only problematic thing was base. So stupid.
Is the new base backwards compatible with the old kettle?
Good question. Will try and test it when I'm back from my travels.
Yes it is but you can't buy the base by itself
For me the sliding on the old kettle is not good but what is worse is the power on/off and heat button being so unreliable.
The timemore kettle is better to just set on 100° then let it sink to your desired temperature 😂
The Nano is super annoying with the buttons on the side. I really like my basic pro. Update on the hand grinder burr would have been nice, since the timemore’s are always on the lower clarity rating. With the Sculptors being so well perceived in regard to grind/flavor, picking up on the hand grinders would have been neat
The burr should be a slight redesign over the latest top models (X and X Lite). The clarity/balance is solid.
I purchased the S3 and I don't like it. It only has 10 clicks for espresso. I used it with 3 types of coffee beans and on the finest grind size it is still not fine enough. Coffee (30grams) runs in 12-14 seconds. Way too fast.
Next to this, the grip of the grinder is awful. And the exterior is hard to clean.
Be aware: not suitable for good espresso!!