Oakland Mayor Sheng Thao: "John Fisher is going to do John Fisher things" | Foul Territory
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- Опубликовано: 23 фев 2024
- Live at Fans Fest in Oakland, Mayor Sheng Thao details her fight to keep the A's in town. She dishes on meeting MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred in Seattle last July, and the lone meeting she had with John Fisher.
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Great interview. The anecdote about the A’s jersey she could afford and the bit of joy she could give her son while they were living in her car… that really got me.
Same
That's why I love Foul Territory so much they do thing unorthodox. None of the big network would dare to put Sheng Thao on air. That's why Scott Braun a rising star in the media landscape. I hope other company can appreciate his talent and let him freelance from time to time. Scott putting work in expanding the Foul Territory brand but she should get a chance to be on network TV like Fox, CBS sports, NBC Sport, or ABC Sports. Scooter we're proud keep changing the media landscape!!!
Tip of the cap to Oakland fans, amazing job
Really proud of foul territory. Show is getting better and better. its my go to baseball show now 🤗
Thank you soooooo much for having Mayor Sheng on. It's a travesty what Fisher and Kaval are working to pull off. And you are so right that this isn't an Oakland problem, its a baseball problem. The A's ownership group needs to be run out of the sport for the betterment of baseball. Go Ballers!
The Oakland mayor has way more problems than baseball to worry about.
@@leonardharper7885Baseball is a huge part of Oakland and the economics behind losing this team will hurt the city. So yes, fight to keep your team and force Fisher to sell
@@traci635Baseball isn't a big part of Oakland. Losing In n Out is a big deal.
Oakland isn't the problem. Lol are you kidding me. Oakland City Leadership destroyed Oakland no economic Development. Biden Administration in Oct 22 with Transportation Lead PETE Budenedge rejected Oakland requesting funds for infrastructure lol because it would be a gamble to use Tax Payer money for a pipe dream of a stadium Oakland voted 90% for Biden and with Build Back Better funds said no. Why? CRIME! & Neglect by local lack of leadership lol
@@theoriginalsurferbobDon't insult Nail Salon owners. If she open a new Nail Salon. She would sell Hammers.
Sell the team. Keep the A's in Oakland
Let's be honest. No one is going to invest over $1B in a building in Oakland today. Just ask Joe Lacob. He built in San Francisco when he wanted a new arena.
PROUD TO BE A OAKTOWN FAN!
Great interview! Foul territory keep up the great reporting! Sheng Tao, keep it up! I’m an Oakland voter and am proud of my mayor!
If you are proud of a mayor doing a poor job in the crime infested city known as Oakland then maybe you should get a clue.
Name one thing she has done to improve crime in Oakland, She dose not even have a police chief.
You guys did a great job reporting the true side of events. The people of Oakland and baseball deserve better. John Fisher is a cancer to our sport
They didn't do an accurate reporting with regards to the causes of the A's leaving Oakland.
The overall picture of the situation was nailed on.
The politics of Oakland as a city hasn’t been great over the years when it comes to the A’s but we all know the what the main problem is. It’s been shown time and time again with how the A’s have been run (into the ground)
The new mayor has done all she can when she got into power when it comes to the A’s. The lies and deceit from Fisher and his cronies has been other worldly and now MLB is facilitating them to run a mock. It’s bad for baseball and terrible for such a great passionate fanbase in a big market.
@@NachoInsano You got your facts wrong.
@@hoapres why are you being so vague ? Is that you Fisher?
@@NachoInsano I posted what REALLY happened with regards to the debacle of the A's futile efforts to stay in Oakland.
You want Fisher to SELL the team? Then try hitting Fisher in his pocketbook. Get a NATIONWIDE boycott of Gap.
This is the smartest thing you've said lol
Oh I forgot the whole world is A's fan's and really cares about Oakland's problems. That is not the smartest thing I have heard about A's baseball
@@user-ih7hq3es1snobody cares or asked for your shitz opinion! So GFYS!
insane guest appearance. I don't think I've ever seen anyone bring on a mayor. haha
She's about to be recalled and thinks this will save her.
Without a Reggie Jackson mentoring Dave Stewart, he might have never become a Major league star player. Claudell Washington, Rupert Jones, Glenn Burke and Shooty Babbitt are all local Berkeley stars. Oh and Ricky Henderson, Oakland star!!!!
When to High School with Jones, Burke and Babbitt! My Mom went to High School with Frank Robinson and Vada Pinson,......goes to show you the talent that is in the Bay Area, particularly the East Bay. Rickey and Dave also were East Bay talent. MLB needs to keep the A's in Oakland.
Keep in Oakland. I don't get it. It doesn't make business sense. And I'm a big A's fan . Watched the first game in April 1968. Still Lovel the the team still go to games each year. But the city has let us down.@@DougThompson
I'm a Phillies fan who has never even been to Oakland, but I am rooting hard for y'all to succeed here.
And that mayor of yours... what a badass!
DAMN! Mayor Sheng Thao is AMAZING! Just donated to Schools Over Stadiums. Scott, excellent interview! I love how you and all the FT team keep this disgusting Fisher mess front-and-center. Hopefully enough MLB insiders will acknowledge the error of their ways and act against Fisher - and for Oakland and MLB at-large.
Thank you 🙏 ❤
Schools over stadiums is a scam.
Schools over stadiums is a scam.
If you really sent money to Schools over Stadiums, you're a fool. They are a PAC, not a Teacher's union. Even if they could get a ballot initiative it wouldn't be until November and wouldn't effect anything. They haven't signed one single signature. They filed their finances with Nevada which they have to do by law. They brought in $66K, mostly from Californians, and spent $87K. People in the media lie to you all the time.
Schools over stadiums isn't going anywhere.
@@hoapres Lack of merit to the case.
Fun day today! I 💚 Oakland!
Yes
STAY IN OAKLAND!!!
And play where? at Laney College.
Mayor Sheng... what a solid appearance
All softball questions. Ask Her about Tax increment financing and how she mite of got Oakland a new Stadium with this.
I really like this woman. She's definitely opened my eyes a little wider. The A's should stay in Oakland.
Baseball Belongs in OAKLAND
Nothing but crime belongs in Oakland thanks to liberals
Yea they have the Baller's
You guys don't lie when you say "baseball the way it should be covered" I'm not an A's fan but I'm totally against what's happening rn. It's good to see that baseball fans and part of the media are coming together to show them the support they need
Thank you for understanding and supporting by just thinking about Oakland!
This is my new favorite channel.
Me too! They put out a ton of content too
Great report. Thank you. I'm a Giant's fan and, I think Fisher should have his franchise license revoked.
Thank you for the support.
Good interview brauny
Two things:
- 1. Scott should do all interviews for FT.
- 2. Is there a Mr. Thao?
Legendary mayor moment
😂😂😂😂
Oakland Ballers: HIGH BALLIN'!!!
saw u at fan fest
Oakland is best LOCATION and Weather
Oakland is a third world shythole cause of corrupt Mayors like this
A+++++ event. lifelong memory
Mayor Sheng Thao hits it 100% on the head. I'm glad she is playing hardball with John. If A's want a house to play in, Keep the branding / keep the name / we get a guarantee of expansion team. Owners CAN approve that with zero plans, just like they approved the move with zero plans. John can move to the desert where he wants to relocate his legacy.
If he doesn't agree, then he can SELL. Dude has good options.
Not happening. Most likely the A's move to Sacramento for 3 years.
and a chicken in ever Pot.
Go mayor Thao!
Feels like Montreal and Loria 25 years ago. Hope this turns out for the best
I'm cheering for Mayor Sheng. She cares about the fans.
She doesn't give a squat about the fans.
If she cared about "the fans", why did she stop the negotiations with the A's?
Only cares about the recall.@@user-pw3ji3rn3s
FISHER is bad for BASEBALL
FISHER is bad for HUMANITY.
And so is Mayor Thao...
@@user-ih7hq3es1s another Fisher simp in the comments. Yawn
It's a toss-up as to whose word I trust less. John Fisher or literally any politician in Oakland.
I wouldn't trust either.
@@hoapresTrust in the lord.
@@hoapres, no truer words will be spoken in this comment section. 😆
If you trust John Fisher you’re the type of person that probably believes billionaires all earned their money and that we actually live in a meritocracy. And that billionaire’s paying less of a percentage of their income than someone making 40k/year is fair.
@@MrDude667hear hear
MLB billionaires have forgotten that it's the fans who support your product and alienating a whole fan base in a large city just to get your foot in the door in Vegas, will hurt your product.
Nevada taxpayers are not pleased that you are asking them to support Fisher, Vegas does NOT want Fisher or his team and last, a tiny domed stadium, crammed into a lot in the most congested area on the Strip, will not be well received. Fans won't support this and you locked Fisher into 10yrs in Vegas, before he can sell, so good luck cleaning up this mess Manfred! A's belong in Oakland! Force Fisher to sell and grow your game! Otherwise watch baseball fans continue to leave......
Vegas WANTS the A's.
@@hoapres They want an expansion team
Mayor Thao, WTG!
If Oakland keeps the A’s brand then isn’t the expansion technically going to Vega? Cuz it’ll be a new team… right or am I too high ?
No the Oakland A’s would be renamed to Las Vegas X and retain all the accolades like world series rings and the current players
I'm assuming it would be like the Browns moving to Baltimore. Where the name, colours, history stayed in Cleveland and the players, personnel, etc. Moved to Baltimore under a new name, colours, history.
No, the A’s then would be an expansion, while Fisher’s club is historically the A’s.
Look at the New York Yankees. Their franchise roots were the Baltimore Orioles. Then the Baltimore Orioles of today started as the Milwaukee Brewers, then the St Louis Browns before moving to Baltimore and becoming the Orioles again.
Interesting stuff looking at history. Just we haven’t had much movement in sports modern history of late. Terrible the Oakland A’s are used as an example for wealthy owners greed.
Why is the bobble head out in front says SELL on it during a conversation about keeping the team how did that happen lol 😝
SELL THE TEAM. Not hard to fathom
Is she really wearing a B's hat, the other Oakland team? Savage. Mic Drop.
LV A’s is just WRONG
So is LV Raiders
Boy between this and the Jerseys baseball is gonna lose alotta fans.
The A’s have no fans. Haven’t for years. Awful city
Please forgive Tony, he’s having a bad day!
@@elisemariecollinsyoga5905 Nah, my team will be around forever. We show up to games. And when we need a new stadium every 30-40 years... we come to a public/private partnership. Unlike Oakland, where they don't show up even when the A's are in first place. And they believe the Raiders and A's should be expected to play in a decrepit, rat infested 💩hole that was built 60 years ago and sits in an unsafe, crime-ridden pigsty run by communists. Gee... I wonder why every sports team has left
@@tonyc8752"Public/private partnership" = We make non-baseball fans and their kids payoff our cheapa$$ billionaire owner.
Vegas, this is what you will get with Fisher.. He doesn't care about the team or fans.. Don't worry. Fisher will do the same thing to Vegas in 2028
@FoulTerritory, haven't heard any other owners interviewed why they voted unanimously for the move to Vegas given the lack of plan & backlash. Besides the owners sticking together which is a given, do you think it's like you said they can hold cities hostage for stadium upgrades? And/or do you think there's a solution coming with tv/cable deals or betting kick backs where they'll make a ton more $ from in the future? Because that's the only thing I think the owners would agree on to approve the move. I'm worried this can happen in almost any city now.
No matter how u all feel about her. Although she was on the council, this bull got dumped on her. She’s cleaning up the mess of past mayors.
A’s and Raiders have the dumbest owners in sports! Both opposed awesome Coliseum City plan which would’ve been a sports village with new stadiums! That’s not Oaklands fault
Ask her about the homeless population and encampments in her city...
1 phone call. ONE
And the point is ?? Oakland was on notice that the A's were looking at Vegas YEARS ago.
@@hoapres that’s not how you try to actually get a deal done. The owner is a clown. We all know it
@Braun-FoulTerritory The owner is a clown but Oakland city government is just as much if not an even bigger clown than Fisher.
It's really a BIG myth that Oakland and Fisher were close to a deal. To be fair, Thao wasn't in at the beginning of the long journey or quest for a new ballpark. EVERYONE was on notice that the A's were actively looking at Vegas for a minimum of TWO years. Fisher had to complete something resembling a ball park deal by Jan. 2024 to remain on revenue sharing and while it could be argued that Fisher didn't meet the criteria timely in Vegas, it was certainly clear to everybody that it wasn't going to get timely done in Oakland. EVEN If Thao could have somehow reach an agreement with Fisher in 2023 then it wasn't clear that Oakland City council would have approved it.
As a vegas resident i want a team but not take the As from oakland
Why is there no means of suing a neglectful ownership out of their position?
Is this a serious question?
@@seanmiles6991 Indeed. Why, in ever-litigious USA, can't poor ownership be held publicly or legally accountable? There is a long track record here
@@seansley simple, the no bullshit answer to your question is because this is America.
Unfortunately in America a man or woman has the absolute right to run their property as they see fit.
The Oakland A’s are John Fisher’s property, he spent his own millions to purchase it, making him the boss, allows him to run it poorly (in your eyes) or just him making those tough choices that are best for the franchise, that’s in my eyes.
Simply because someone chooses to move his property somewhere, you don’t deem appropriate or it going someplace you wouldn’t move to, doesn’t require a lawsuit please.
This isn’t a Monarchy country, that allows one individual (you)
to pull a man’s franchise simply cause you don’t like the direction, it’s going.
When I asked you earlier, if your question was serious, I guess you missed the sarcasm tone in the question.
I asked my question, frankly because I thought your suggestion was ridiculous.
John Fisher is the man for removing A’s out of Oakland!
That’s my opinion.
@@seanmiles6991 To me it's more about 20 years of neglect. Why is it so important that the A's must leave Oakland?
@@seansley well imo, Oakland has been more neglectful towards Fisher and the A’s, than the other way around.
As for your question, as to why it’s important that Oakland lose its team, well, simply put it’s Justice and that’s what’s owed to me and I can’t wait till 2028.
Manfred doesn’t have balls .he should be forcing fisher out of baseball.
GO a's
follow the MONEY
Don't believe that's not how sports fandom works? She won't even SAY Giants.
No deal
John Fisher is just crap as an owner. The rest of the owners deserve him.
John Fisher is just crap as a human being. No one deserves him.
$50M per season if Fisher wants an Oakland extension. Go and beg the Giants. Bye bye tv revenue.
70% of A's Fans who goto games Live in the South Bay From San Jose, Santa Clara, Milpitas, Fremont, Los Gatos, Palo Alto not East LOL East Palo Alto is mini me Oakland or Predominantly Privilege No Crime Cities. Most of the people on the comment section don't live in Oakland. 😂
Exactly there are comments from people who seem to know everything about Oakland that they heard on Fox news
@elisemariecollinsyoga5905 Fox News Sucks. Anyway. I have 6000 Videos from KTVU , KPIX, KGO, KRON local channels from the bay area. GO on RUclips lol I use to work Security For A"s & Sharks and San Jose Spartan Football games and Rock Concerts at the Shoreline I Use to travel from Fremont to A's Games as a fan & work. You are talking out of your element. You never dealt with out of control people for a living and Your Ted Talk Virtue Signal Life lol Just today in Berkley 50 Cars just got Robbed and also Embarcadero Mall could close. I know Oakland like the back of my hand. I Use Evidence from local sources.
She's only been mayor since 2023, not for 20 years
MLB takes over the A’s and they end up at the Howard Terminal site. I can 100% see this happening and Vegas or Salt Lake City begetting an expansion franchise
With the financial problems Ballys is having what happens if they demolish the Tropicana and tell Fisher they're not building anything until Ballys' finances get better?
edit; This year is when the demolition is _going_ to happen.
Bally's financials are just fine.
@@hoapres See Chicago, no they're not or I wouldn't have mentioned it.
@@MountainFisher Looks pretty good to me. I have read the financial report.
@@MountainFisher Oakland is worse than Chicago. Not even close.
@@MountainFisher I have been there. I know more about Chicago than you might think. I will take 63rd Street on the South side over Hegenberger Road any day of the week.
I see the Athletics future as a brand to represent all of Northern California. They have even have green color in logo !!! A Vegas move would be a disaster plain and simple. There is much more money and way more baseball fans in Northern California 👈
She's in over her head IMO
I do wonder that if schools over stadiums is successful and the $350 million is off the table. Will Fisher still move the team there or is it back to square one??
Schools over stadiums isn't going anywhere.
SELL
They scammed her. They asked her to keep everything quiet then came out saying nothing was getting done. No city should fall for this again. And if a team asks you to, that's a red flag.
Yet she's about to be recalled for everything else not related to the A's 😂
Who would want to leave Oakland? .... ROFL
Fans buy club ala packers
And Oakland is going to do Oakland things, and more businesses will continue to leave
I like her
Thank you, damn she is a real woman. It seems to be threatening to some!
I know we’ve taken 25 years, but just give us a couple of years…
I am filled with 😡
Fisher and Kavel both need to be indicted for fraud.
assumes facts not in evidence!
Honestly as much as I can’t stand Fischer she is worse. Just drive around Oakland for 30minutes it’s like Mad Max out there. Who in their right mind would want to keep their billion dollar business in Oakland. She and the Oakland government are not getting enough blame for the move.
First of all: one of the worst active mayors. Her city has already lost the Warriors and the Raiders. Crime is out of control. Businesses are leaving. The city is in a death spiral. But, she is talking about "fighting" to keep the A's? What a joke.
New owner or MOVE the team. Oakland is DONE with Fisher.
Solid interview. Sheng Thao is cool and relatable. Which is good for the people but billionaires who have more money than life itself, are not big fans. Fisher is a snake, we know this, and really, Fisher and Manfred want to push a narrative that the city is in shambles and does not deserve a team. Manfred mentioning the giants in the same breath as the A's is telling. The Gap is an SF based company. In a perfect world, the Fishers would celebrate the idea that John removed the competition for market shares in the area for MLB. I honestly believe this. Fisher is still devoted to the Giants organization and will move the athletics just to please the Giants and his family. If someone can prove this, that would bust up this whole moving the vegas deal.
You must work for Shang Tao and your comments are very hilarious.I lived in Oakland for 50 years and I have never seen what has becone as a embarrassment to a city I once loved.When are you people going to wake the F up? I'm not a fan of John Fisher but he is going to do what is best for him and his business.Just like In and Out is doing what's best for them by getting out of a crime riddled city.But yet you and others are blinded into thinking that's this Mayor is doing such a great job.She was more concerned about getting a raise and she missed a deadline for funding that could have helped the police department but yet you think she is doing great..I moved out of Oakland not to long ago because loosing 3 pro sports teams, businesses leaving among other things made me decide enough was enough.When I speak these facts it's like people turn a deaf ear to the truth.She is from Stockton so she is not from Oakland.She doesn't know what it means to love this city and embrace its rich history.Its time to wake up and start putting the blame on Oakland City government..
@@silverado2004 Well - For one - I do not work for the city of Oakland and if I did - I wouldn't make time to comment on these things. Thao's Predecessor did not do her any favors. Schaaf had plenty of time to iron out these details for the athletics, she is solely responsible for the departure of the Raiders, and she is an Oakland Native. Thao has been in office for literally 1 year and 2 months, as of this comment. So in my opinion, she is doing the best she can with what she was given. If she is in office for 5 years and still no progress, then really that's when people should be concerned. I get that immediate action is expected but it's all a process that takes forever to get through. Add in the fact, Fisher really thinks going to a smaller market, that does not want him is going to benefit him is misguided. In my opinion, Fisher is moving the team for reasons that are not monetary. The world's three biggest companies are based in the bay area, and you want to say its best for business to move to Nevada? Naw man - that dog don't hunt.
SELL!
A major site that does sports odds determined the odds of cities getting an expansion MLB team. If you bet $100 on Nashville, most likely, you would get $150. Charlotte is a bit less likely and you would get $250. Far less likely is Mexico City but you would get $700 if they were rewarded. But if Oakland were given an expansion team, you would get $1,000,000.
She’s cute lol
What do y'all Oaklanders think of this mayor and situation. Is she a good mayor?
She is such a good mayor that Oakland is the FIRST city to lose In n out. Job well done.
Many fans are not from Oakland. I work in Oakland, A’s fan! I live in another city.
@@elisemariecollinsyoga5905 so its kind of a Golden State type of situation. Where most fabs are from surrounding areas.
@@hoapres I never tried N and out. But I live in Houston . we are all about Whataburger here.
Boycott Gap
F fisher
F fisher
F Kaval
F manfred
F Wolff
F anyone trying to take the A’s from the REAL fan base
STAY IN OAKLAND
expand to LV
fisher is a giants fan 🤮
John Fisher is a JOKE!
When the A's selected Howard Terminal, either they were unaware of the problems of having a steel mill with its history of noxious fires or they thought the city would help deal with it. Well, the A's lost a legal battle to deal with the problem in January 2023 and the city did nothing to help. In fact when the genius mayor went to pitch Howard Terminal to MLB in July, she included the steel mill but planned to erect foliage to protect the view from the stadium. Then another fire occurred at Schnitzer Steel in August 2023. Huge black clouds and people in both East Bay counties were advised to stay in. Even the Oakland city web site said the fumes could reach as far south as San Jose. That's what the incompetent city pitched to MLB and the media never questioned the mayor about it.
John and Dave they give you another free service for going way up their asses?
Give up the whole "We want an expansion" team crap Sheng. Your city has run off 3 teams in the last 10 years. NO ONE is giving you an expansion team of any sport. Get the land back the county sold to Fisher and leave it at that.
Another knowledgeable Oaklander giving us their expert opinion!
But the Warriors are technically still in the Bay Area the only team that lefted Oakland was the Raiders... twice because they have an idiotic Davis family
@@elisemariecollinsyoga5905 It's a pretty good opinion given the alternative of Fisher having 50% interest in the Coliseum site.
@@kingmo8789 The Warriors left Oakland and went to San Fran, not the same thing. Raiders left this last time because of John FIsher.
I think John Fisher will sell the Oakland Athletics to casino magnate Frank Fertitta III and the Maloofs for $2.33 billion.
Ain’t happening.
Can't.
@@seanmiles6991 The hell it ain’t.
No question that Fisher will sell in a year or 2 after the relocation. The A’s franchise valuation goes up by at least one billion $’s when they relocate to Vegas. Fischer only cares about the almighty dollar-just like Al and Mark Davis. Billionaire owners couldn’t care less about the fan base that is the foundation of where their wealth was built. The mayor speaks the truth-support schools over stadiums.
@@TimFrith24 that doesn’t make sense to me, actually it’s ridiculous, for one Fisher can’t sell to anyone affiliated with a casino, I thought everyone knew that.
Second thing is Fisher will get penalized/taxed if he sells the franchise within 7 years of relocation, that makes zero sense to think Fisher will get taxed all that money, when all he has to do is hold till like 2037 and not get penalized.
Sheng Thao has no shame making a public appearance after the disaster Oakland has become under her watch. The crime is at an all time high, business are fleeing the city at record numbers and there’s currently a pan by Oakland citizens to recall her butt for incompetence and lack of compassion for the citizens.
Dude, she has been mayor one year, and has worked to increase the number of police. But what a mayor can do in one year is pretty limited. But conservatives love to hate on the Bay Area. Red state murder rate has increased 39.4% since 2000, and 13.4% in blue states. Alabama has twice the murder rate as California.
Oakland has had a crime problem for its entire existence, get out of here wirh your idiocy
All you have to do is make an appearance, say words and you then pretend to care. 😆
Part of the problem is the DA also. Only so much you can do
All time high? Lol. You're either a propagandist or a moron.
On one hand though, I understand if an owner does not want to build or continue their brand in a city with one of the highest crime rates. Loyal fanbase or not. I mean, look at SF. They don't lack the money, and I wouldn't put it past players to want to take their family there going off what i see in the news. There're other teams, and better states to play for.
Vegas is pretty high in crime rates, too. It's about free money with as little risk for the owners as possible.
The Giants will be forever hated if they let the A’s leave Oakland. The Giants allegedly purposely blocked the A’s from getting a new stadium before Fisher
Oakland doesn't deserve a team any more than any other large city.
Clown take from a clown
Sounds like a POLITICIAN
Get the A's out of Oakland!
Who would want to leave Oakland??? The Raiders 2x and the Warriors. I get it, the ownership is bad, but the city hasn’t supported this team for years. The crowds are so small.
Oakland crowds weren’t small before Raiders moved to LA in 1982 and the dumb Raiders moved anyway! Oakland crowds weren’t small for Warriors and they moved too!
This so cringe & corny as every major fast foot restaurant & store has closed in Oakland. From Target to Dennys & 8 mile stretch of that surround the Colusium that has the Biggest Homeless encampments in the US. 12000 Cars were stolen in Oakland last year. Crime is out of control in Oakland. Bart is Dangerous to go to games too. Washington D.C is 2nd in Crime and they just lost Wizzards & Capitals.
DC teams are still close by DC.
@@805fillmore Oakland lost The Warriors to San Francisco. About 40,000 former working people lives were effected by The Warriors leaving. Economic Development stopped when the Warriors moved. Resources were shifted by local city Leadership. Around the Arena about 3000 homeless 200 RV"s surround that area also near that area is the famous In & Out Burger closed. ALSO Fremont Bart to Fruitvale & Oakland Colusium is the most dangerous stretch just to watch the A's. Crime & Homeless & addicts harassing last of the young families who goto A's games Oakland is finished as a city no new World Class buildings last built convention center was 1988. ALL OLD buildings.
She is lying!!! Her ego is in the way!!! Welcome to major league business mayor.
Welcome to the 21st century where fans and ordinary citizens demand a voice in something that affects their community. In the last century Sports teams, got big tax brakes and other breaks and multi billion dollar handouts. People are not falling for it anymore. Let’s see what happens in the next 20 years!!
30 years to figure out the stadium, to me the As and Oakland both are failures.. lost the warriors, the raiders and now the As so Oakland has blood on there hands too..
At least the Warriors was a success of Oakland, but Raiders, however is the dumb and John Fisher is the dumber
John Fisher might do John Fisher things, but its pretty clear the government in Oakland is going to keep doing what it does -- and that's not good for Oakland. John Fisher is leaving Oakland. Be happy. Unfortunately the government of Oakland still remains.
John Fisher wants the A’s to make money. He decided that would never happen in Oakland. The mayor, several city council members, and several local sports reporters all claimed his look to Vegas was a squeeze play to get more out of the City of Oakland, and a bluff. The ask t the city was always minimal, so that has never made any sense. But still they were antogonistic to him, city officials constantly wanting to renegotiate issues, threatening to put it on the ballot, etc… How was it a surprise when as soon as Vegas came up with a plan the A’s took it? Everyone pretty much dared them to.
Then the mayor gets into a pissing match with Fisher and Manfred and thinks she can demand an to keep the A’s name and get an expansion team? She doesn’t know how to politic. She knows how to play to her base in a safe far left city, but not to work with others. She destroyed whatever chance Oakland may have had to get an expansion team by her recent comments. Again, plays well to her base but doesn’t help actual A’s fans.
Fisher could have kept the team here if he really wanted to and just funded the offsite infrastructure himself. That is unheard of these days but he could have chosen to do it if he was that committed to keeping the team in Oakland. But I think the atmosphere, poor attendence going back years, low TV ratings, and antagonistic relationship the A’s have always recieved from the city, in the past where they city/county did everything to make the coliseum better for the Raiders at the expense of the A’s, more recently where the city council hemmed and hawed on support for their end (offiste infrastricture only, this is the minimum most localities provide, most also provide funding for the stadium itself) and the mayor acted as if even negotiating with the A’s was distasteful, I am not surprised the A’s are leaving.
Those celebrating this are fools. They are celebrating the further decline of Oakland. We are literally getting a “B” team. Clap, clap, clap.
Lol if MLB supports Fisher ripping the team out of Oakland they were never going to consider expansion.
John Fisher can't afford to build in the Bay, plain and simple.
Warriors, Niners and Giants all managed to build stadiums, Fisher just can't get it done.
@@cg5968 yes, I think the expansion would be highly unlikely reguardless, but not impossible. It has happened in the past. I think if the A’s stayed in the coliseum 25-27 and had decent attendence and better TV ratings that would help. But they didn’t even surpass 2mil in attendence with back to back 97 win seasons in ‘18, ‘19, maybe not even 1.5 million. That is just pitiful. Also the TV ratings don’t support the contract, even though everyone crows about it, its still bottom five in MLB, or was before the bankruptcy the Angels and Padres provider is dealing with. The mayor and Brodie, and Casey and everyone can crow about the size of the market but its clear the fanbase within that market is miniscule.
I think it would have been better if Fisher just went with a ballpark instead of all the rest at HT, but get why they all in. But the fact remains their ask to the city was minimal and should not have been that complicated. But, as the project has dragged out the finances in the city of Oakland changed, and that made things different.
Not going to compare sports, but MLB wise, every new ballpark is being built with local subsidies. Oracle had minimal, but did have some for offsite infrastructure. However, it was noted just a few years later they never could have done it except during that unique period when interest rates were low along with property costs, and construction. Right now is the exact opposite. KC’s new stadium (ironically for the expansion team that replaced the A’s after they left) is getting public money for the stadiun itself. White Sox’s new park plan will require significant public money and that is a top market team. Petco in San Diego is always ranked a top five ballpark; the owner only paid 1/3 of the stadium cost. But it has revitalized the neighborhood.
The fact is the A’s ask to Oakland was minimal, and the city hemmed and hawed and their public comments were at times questionable about their support. The A’s made it clear they were looking at Vegas, then made it clear whoever came through first they wrre going with. I’ve spent the last several months going back and reading comments trying to figure out what the hell happened. It is embarrassing now to see all the comments from politicians, “news” sites, and the rest that probably forsaw this happening.
Interesting take Moonlight Graham Cracker. Do you live in Oakland? What happened with John Fisher’s deal in Fremont? Have you been to an Oakland City Council meeting?
Fans don’t want to go to games when the team is owned by Fisher. It’s like the ground is
covered in Fisher dog poop and then people say oh your attendance is no good. Clean up your shit team owners so people can enjoy the game.
@@elisemariecollinsyoga5905 yes, since the late 80s. Havent attended city council meeting. Not sure of the relevence?
A’s attendence has been poor since Haas. Long before Fisher. Even when the A’s pulled back-to-back 97 win seasons in 2018 and 2019 just a couple years after he took over ownership/director, A’s attendence was some of the lowest in MLB. We have a great fan base, but the core fan base is small. The rest of the fans are fickle.
Attendence is the number one source of income for MLB teams by a large margin except the A’s, Pirates, Marlins, and Rays pretty consistently. The A’s have consistently been in the bottom since they came to Oakland, the exception being a couple of years, decades ago, where they were close to middle, but that lasted one or two years then the sank back to the bottom. Their payroll has also been consistently near the bottom long before Fisher, even under Finley. They have all tried to time their “big” spending years with development of prospects amd hope fans show up to sustain it but it has never happened for long. Best run they had was 88-90 (when I came here) they went to three WS, this was also the years of their highest attendence but even then it didnt hit what many teams do in bad years.
Oakland/Alameda jumped when Al Davis said jump, ruined the coliseum for baseball. It wasn’t great before, close to Dodger stadium but because it was made for football it couldnt be that good, but before they built that monstrosity in centerfield it was a real ballpark. Oakland and Alameda Co continually did whatever Al Davis wanted at the detriment to the A’s and no one cared. I remember seeing a game where the outfiled was trashed after a Raiders game in the fall because they couldnt work out schedules right. Players have always hated playing here, especially the past several decades.
The A’s and MLB went through several owners trying to find a stadium. Thao came into the mayorship at the end of this latest attempt and seemed to think the A’s would hit the reset for her, like the years of waiting and aggravation in the past were forgotten. That is beyond naive. They made it clear they were not doing that. She acted like she was working on the deal while pinching her nose shut with one hand. Her behavior since the A’s said they were going with Vegas has not been helpful if she actually wanted to get an expansion team or keep the A’s name here.
I’d much rather the A’s play here ‘25-27. Once they are out of the coliseum playing elsewhere, that is when it is over. If they are still here and something goes bad there would be a chance to have another go at HT, maybe even a scaled down plan or at the colisiem, who knows. But once they are out of the coliseum that is it. That is why the Giants offered to let them play at Oracle next year. Once the A’s have left Oakland the Giants know its done, and they will soon own the whole bay area. But that also goes if they are in Sac or SLC or wherever. If they are elsewhere in 25-27 and the Vegas site goes bad, well they are now out of Oakland and committed to Vegas fully so they will just make a new deal in Vegas even if it takes another year or two. Keeping the A’s in the coliseum a few more years is not about appeasing Fisher. People talk about how he needs it; he doesnt. MLB will let him keep the TV money in Sac if they aren’t at Oracle, but that TV money loss won’t break the team. Many teams are dealing with the same thing for other reasons now, MLB is getting them through. They will do the same for the A’s. And attendence $ is meaninless at this point, it has always been low, even before the Vegas announcement, even when they were winning it sucked. They have learned to live without it.
The other owners support them. MLB is a business. They have watched the debacle of trying to get a stadium deal for decades. The players union supports the move. They put in their last CBA the deadline to have a deal done to put the A’s back on path for full revenue sharing because the players really would rather be in Vegas. If the MLPAA wanted the A’s to stay in Oakland they couldmhave worded it as such in the CBA but they didn’t.
Wolff was the owner/director when they were trying for Fremont, not sure what you were trying to say with Fisher’s Fremont stadium plan?