Casey Pratt: If A's don't release renderings by early March, then move "probably isn't happening"
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- Опубликовано: 19 фев 2024
- Casey Pratt joined The Carmichael Dave Show with Jason Ross to discuss the back-and-forth news on where the Oakland A's could play after this season, share some upcoming deadlines that fans should watch, and much more.
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As a (soon to be former) lifelong A’s fan from the East Bay, if they hypothetically move to Sacramento permanently, I’d likely still support. It’s not totally “local,” but still close enough, and still in NorCal.
With Vegas on the other hand, I’m totally done with them.
As a Giants fan, I’d think Sacramento is a fine place and at least is within reasonable driving distance to east bay fans, but the TV market (or any other media market) may not support the A’s enough when competing with the Kings. I think the A’s/Giants rivalry is good for both teams, and Sacramento could maintain that. I doubt the rivalry could survive a move to Las Vegas.
@@fandyllic1975 RSNs are dying. Some already have, ask the diamondbacks. But alas, we ARE talking about john fisher here. He needs every penny
Yeah, but I'm sure over the years, the Giants have done a much better job marketing themselves in Sac over the A's, so the young generation these days is probably mostly GIants fans. Heck, there is even a Giants store deep in the East Bay in Walnut Creek. So much for "territorial rights." haha
Of course, the Giants do what they can for their own viability, and it's the A's own ineptutide that caused this.
It might still take some time for the Sac locals to convert, but perhaps simply having a team in their own backyard might quickly help them change allegiances.
@@fandyllic1975
Thank you for talking about the A’s
#StayInOakland
Vegas ain't releasing renderings. March starts next week and there's no sign of renderings being released. This move ain't happening.
Great talk. I’m glad Sacramento got tied to the A’s, because Sacramento media is doing great coverage of this saga.
The best outcome for the A’s is to get a new owner.
7 acre footprint! Am curious to see these renderings!
Wishful thinking… but I do hope Vegas doesn’t release drawings…Sacramento should release endings of a beautiful Railyards Ball Park ;)
My take is that the Bay Area AND Sactown are BOTH sports crazy- and with the wealth in Northern California that exists both culturally and materially- the leagues would be wise to add a few more teams. The Oakland situation is truly baffling.
Easily, it's the most pathetic owner of any professional sport.
No doubt there. I agree with you.
It sounds like Tropicana Field in Las Vegas is in a heap of trouble!!!
The move to Vegas is a DONE deal. Really it is.
what credible source do you have? They are closing a billion dollar casino on April 2nd to clear the site for the ballpark..... you must know something the owner of the casio doesn't?
So what do they do with all the asbestos??????????@@hoapres
@@bullwinkle2380 Get an asbestos removal expert. Vegas has torn old hotels down before.
@@hoapresand how is it a done deal?? Besides a couple people agreeing to it but yet haven’t moved forward in the process. Yes trop is being torn down technically doesn’t solidify the actual mlb stadium getting built. All these hurtles after a yes vote was made but somehow it’s a done deal.
Just wanted to add a comment that isn't from "hoapres" like half the other comments
I’m a Giants fan But it would be nice to have the A’s in Sacramento
I'd still be an A's fan if they relocated to Sacramento permanently....
IDEALLY, we know BEFORE the opening day if the A's are going to be at the Coliseum beyond 2024. If 2024 is really going to be the last year in Oakland then the sooner everybody knows the better. Fans can decide whether to boycott the team or go for a couple of games or whatever makes them feel the best. The WORST case scenario is that we don't know until towards the end of the season. MLB is probably going to start putting LOTS of pressure on Fisher to come up with an answer. It should be possible to get a quick answer since the number of options are limited.
Definitely before July 2nd when 2025 schedules begin being made.
I think Casey is right about the work Oakland did in 2023. But to accurately tell the HT story, we have to ask why Oakland couldn't move the needle on anything from 2018-2021.
Think about what was going on in the world during that time and there’s your answer as to why a city isn’t building a multi billion dollar stadium district… not to mention that mayoral administrations change over the years. There have been offers for as long as i can remember. The owners are the constant in this situation and who is responsible for where the situation currently finds itself
If the A’s ratings are so bad right now, I don’t see why nbc wouldn’t be itching to renegotiate for a smaller deal in Sacramento. You factor in that Sacramento won’t cost as much to play in because of rental fees for the stadium, larger attendance with higher average ticket value, and general cost of business being cheaper in Sacramento. Nevermind the fact that they’ll be in a market excited to have them with city leadership and private investors rolling out the red carpet for them
Losing the $70M annual revenue for 3 years is a big deal but it isn't that big of a deal to prevent the move. IF Oakland city government could make a RATIONAL decision then it could get a nice increase in Coliseum rent along with getting an option to buy out Fisher's interest at the Coliseum site. If Oakland insists on goals such as keeping the A's name, guaranteed expansion team then the A's just leave at the end of 2024.
@@hoapres the A’s can renegotiate their contract with nbc if they play in Sacramento which would be advantageous for nbc because they don’t have to pay as much and it’s good for the A’s because it makes Sacramento a monetarily comparable alternative to Oakland and take away any of oaklands leverage in lease extension negotiations. The sale of the coliseum site is a non factor because both sides are motivated to make it happen. It will come down to who wants the A’s more and the only reason Oakland is even entertaining extending the A’s lease is because of the believed leverage they think they have in renegotiating a lucrative deal for the city. Sacramento will bend over backwards to prove itself as a viable city for another pro sports team and will do everything to use this opportunity to do so
@@bv32ification For me it's just RUN THE NUMBERS and KEEP EMOTION out of it. Give Fisher a lease extension and TAKE THE MONEY AND RUN. There is $70M for 3 years being $210M at stake. No doubt the A's can get a TV deal in Sacramento let's assume $40M for 3 years being $120M. So there is an opportunity cost of $90M to move to Sacramento with regards to the TV revenue assuming my numbers are accurate. Fisher is likely willing to agree to a nice rent increase to keep the TV revenue. The A's are going to be COMPLETE CRAP as long as they are in Oakland (and likely to be CRAP in Vegas with Fisher as owner as well). The A's won't be a REAL MLB team in Oakland but GREEN HARD COLD CASH is EXACTLY what Oakland NEEDS RIGHT NOW.
I don’t know why people think NBC would be comparing the Oakland media market to the Sacramento one… that’s just silly. It is the SF Bay Area media market vs. the Sacramento media market and that makes the Sacramento move look a lot worse.
NBC would probably consider outright canceling the deal and dropping the A's. The only had a local 0.3 TV rating the last couple years, which I think means less than 100k households are watching them on any given night.
OAKLAND ATHLETICS.........''LOYAL TO THE SOIL''........OAKLAND ONLY FOR ME, This ownership is a SH*TSHOW
If MLB doesn’t punish owners for kneecapping their teams to make a profit, then slowly all teams will be made losers on purpose to make more money. Punish Fisher for throwing games
Don’t they lose revenue sharing if they don’t show a path out of California.
LET THEM MOVE TO SAN JOSE!!!
Stop letting poor owners buy sports teams. If the warriors guy had bought the A’s, then Giants and A’s rivalry would be bigger than the Dodgers/Giants and draw large ratings/sales
Las Vegas doesn’t want the A’s .The Diamondbacks are the latest team to talk about relocating.The Diamondbacks were always supposed to be a Las Vegas team ..It makes perfect sense to move the Diamondbacks to Las Vegas and set up a rivalry with the Dodgers on the same division and all but guarantee a sell out every game ..The A’s should go to Sacramento to stay within their own market with their fans .Nobody can force Fisher to sell but it would be in the best interest of baseball and both the city of Oakland and Las Vegas
Casinos and Unions want the A's in Vegas and in Vegas the Casinos and Unions RULE.
Its so unfortunate you believe the media crap fed you. Its only going to hurt twice as much when you find out they've been lying to you.
@@hoapres They would be happy with any team because they make money off of bilking tourists ..Shouldn’t have to settle for the worst run team in all of sports bar none who majority of locals want no part of. Las Vegas already has a AAA team we don’t need another one , because that’s all the A’s are .
@@BoulderCityBlues As I said the public doesn't count in Vegas. Perhaps it should but that's not the way it is.
@@hoapres With that I agree …
They can go to Sacramento and get 40-45 million a year for tv deal. Its not 70 million but its better than nothing
No one is going to pay that.. esp CSN..
Baily's has been given 3 sets of renderings to choose from.
cool man...... The public would love to see them. Until we do they are as good as the ones the A's literally said to throw out.
@@brycelynds3768 The public doesn't have to see them to get a deal done.
@@hoapres No, they don't. But that's a great recipe for a public backlash if they don't, and it turns out to be an eyesore...
Ok Mick Ayer’s
oh i HHHAVE to see this massively misguided moronicle clown tent of a design of which hasn't been anything even remotely resembling relevency since the 1980's at best lololololololol.@@hoapres
Sacramento is the best fit for A’s for the time being….
Not if it costs them the TV money
@@jnsboi6377
New owner or MOVE the team. Oakland is DONE with Fisher. If someone can get Fisher to SELL the team preferably to Lacob then great and the A's can STAY in Oakland. Otherwise, be GONE.
You don’t have the balls to run your mouth at an A’s game to a fans face. I’ll be at opening night if you wanna feel brave ;)
@@stefanbrown5872 Buddy I have been shot and been bombed at so you have NO clue of what I have been through in life. Given that, I don't look for problems and run off my mouth anywhere UNLESS I have to.
@@hoapresyou should have no problem coming to Oakland then
John Fischer is no worse than Foxsports or MGM or Draftkings
(all equally awful)
IF Oakland was smart which isn't likely then it gets all of the money it can for a 3 year lease extension. Get $10 to $30M in rent along with a deal for buying Fisher's 50% interest in the Coliseum. That would be a SMART move. Forget the CRAP about keeping the team's colors or getting an expansion team because in crude English that ain't going to happen.
Oakland. The city that wants everything and ending up getting nothing.
Oakland will make some ridiculous request with the A's just moving to Sacramento. Sure the A's lose a $70M RSN payment but that doesn't help Oakland. What helps Oakland is getting a nice rent increase so it can get some of the $70M A's RSN revenue.
Man you don’t have a life or a lady. Stop flooding the comments section with your BS already dude!
Oakland has an MLB team called the SF Giants. Manfred told us so.
You are so pressed about these pro Oakland videos you must multiple times haha. Your meltdowns are funny.
@@stefanbrown5872 Just paraphrasing what Manfred said.
@@hoapres manfred seems like a great guy. I love that you talk crap about Oakland constantly but have guidelines about how people should respond to you. Such a troll.
@@markbennett1210 Life isn't a popularity contest.
@@hoapresget a life
Oakland needs to keep In N Out. That is MORE important. Also it can try to hire a police chief. That would be a good idea.
Thanks, guy-who-has-zero-black-friends
The A's are moving to Vegas. The money is there to move the team to Vegas. Really it is.
Sure glad you know everything..😮
@@rainbowmade1880 Can't help that your behind the curve.
@@rainbowmade1880 He sure has hell knows more than Mr. Pratt. Go look at Pratt's record over the last 2 years. Wrong on every single point.
yea it was a great idea for the raiders too. half the attendees are there for the visiting team. it's like another phoenix; no one's really from there.
@@DamitFeelsGoodtobeaRaider The Raiders are laughing all the way to the bank. Now worth 3 times what they were when in Oakland.
Memo to Casey Pratt: We don't have to show you no stinking drawings. Really we don't. Or better put we don't have to show the drawings when you want to see them.
again, except chicago, SLC, Nashville, and other cities that want an expansion or a team have..... Vegas is so far behind them already cause the owner is incompetent 😂. yes, shockingly if you want the public support you have to show them your idea. the whole process is hard to understand for nevada residents I understand, but you actually need to pitch you idea to powerbrokers and the public. they haven't yet.
@@brycelynds3768 The audience being the parties needing the drawings are not Oakland but the powers that be being the people in Vegas. Just because we don't see any progress doesn't mean that no progress is being done.
@@hoapres You just don't understand. It doesn't matter what Manfred, Clark County Commissioners, and CEOs of GLPI, Bally's, and MGM have seen and said. If they haven't been seen by Bay Area pundits and a couple of DJs at a Sacramento AM station, they don't exist. Aren't those DJs the same guys who started the rumor that the A's might close for 3 years, and the Bay Area guys dutifully repeated the rumor.
@@Rob-Ltwo tools in the same toolbox
What an absurd conclusion. The Oakland As are coordinating with both GLPI and Ballys to get the renderings completed. These organizations will complete the renderings when it makes sense for them. The bitterness of the Oakland pundits distorts their reasonings. They want the As to fail. Any pro organization that needs to coordinate with other corporate entities would have challenges. What is Oakland's plan? Oh, that's right, they do not have one.
Oakland. The city that wants everything and gets nothing.
Vegas. The city that wants nothing and gets everything.
Oakland did have a plan being that it expected Fisher to provide massive amounts of FREEBEES to get a stadium built.
How to become a millionaire in Oakland? Start off with investing a Billion dollars in Oakland.
Your argument is poorly thought out. The A’s have set up public meetings to show renderings only to bail on them. Even using officer deaths as an excuse for them not being ready….
How pathetic is that. Btw why haven’t you heard anyone coming to fishers defense? Name one person who has come to his defense as an owner in mlb or mls, even as a business partner….. no one speaks well or highly of him.
Why be a scab and cross the line…. Vegas knows unions. That’s exactly the scummy behavior you want to avoid…. Yet here you are and the 3 other grifters crossing lines.
@@stefanbrown5872 The A's are MOVING to Vegas. You need to get over it.
@@hoapres clown talk from a clown
@@hoapres Hello Fisher.
Get rid of the Dodgers and make it the Los Angeles Athletics. Anyone seen a Dodger game lately? They’re a joke. The players literally spend half their time dancing on the field.
Casey hasn't been involved in a major real estate deal and is clueless on how this works. Really he is.
So you're the so-called expert? Got it.
@@oiler62 Wouldn't call myself an expert but I have worked in a major real estate transaction. Too bad it wasn't my millions at stake but it was an interesting experience. Casey doesn't have a clue or better put hasn't shown in his reporting that he has a clue.
@@hoapres I know you're one of John Fisher's biggest cheerleaders but don't you think he's handled this thing horribly at every step? MLB should have never approved this move.
@@oiler62 I never understood why people think I support Fisher. Fisher is a pretty bad owner and that is being diplomatic about it. Fisher handled it badly to be sure but it gets tiring to (almost) ALWAYS hear the FALSE NARRATIVE diplomatic phrase for CRAP peddled by many notably Brodie and Casey about how close the Oakland and A's were to a deal. Fisher and Oakland were NEVER close to a deal. AND. All the numbers that Brodie and Casey assert that the A's requested for infrastructure isn't accurate. The infrastructure numbers were provided by Oakland and NOT Fisher. Also and granted it was way back in the beginning, Oakland said it would provide ALL of the off site infrastructure funding.
Oakland. The city that can't.
Vegas. The city that can.
Vegas the city that recruits highschool graduates for its strip clubs…. We know you support it ;)
@@stefanbrown5872 Oakland being the first city to lose an In N Out which was profitable due to crime. Job well done.
Vegas...The City that Can.....Gambling And Hookers
Just like an HOA president to lie, cheat and steal.
CRAP. If the rendering aren't out by March then move isn't probably happening. Reality Check. The renderings don't have to be out in March.
Casey needs to stop peddling the CRAP that Fisher walked away from a deal. The infrastructure money was NEVER the problem. The problem was the amount of affordable housing along with the community benefits package. There was NEVER a meeting of the minds and Fisher NEVER walked away from a deal.
Fisher probably never wanted a deal in the first place, and added all these pie in the sky demands thinking Oakland would never be able to come through.
Once things got close, he panicked, and decided to nix the entire thing.
Oakland City Government is the cause for 90% of the failure to build a new stadium.
Also, as an Asian American myself, I can tell you that Thao is NOT pro-Asian at all.
She panders to the other “minorities” much more, and all the while anti-Asian attack hate crimes are still an almost daily occurrence. 🤷🏻♀️
@@letsgowalk It's a nice story but that's the problem it's only a story and not the truth. Fisher and Oakland were not even close to a deal.
@@letsgowalk Thao is looking at the MONEY and the Chinese have a LOT of it.
Why Howard Terminal NEVER was meant to be.
1. You had a RICH Republican Jew that NEVER gave a damn about owning a baseball team. HT was a PURE real estate deal. Fisher wanted to become a BIG SHOT player in Real Estate.
2. Oakland's city government being a bunch of mostly blacks seeing that they have a chance to stick it to the man. We are going to get affordable housing, community benefits packages and a bucket load of other freebees.
3 Thao being an Asian mayor trying to figure out how to get everyone who is NOT an Asian OUT of Oakland to make Oakland part of the Greater Chinese coprosperity sphere.
Flame me all you want but it is the truth.
Wow slow down on the racism!
@@user-ih7hq3es1s It's not being racist. It's just the awful truth. Fisher never said much publicly but if one listened to the statements of Oakland city council throughout 2021 and 2022 then it became evident that Oakland was looking for a LOT of freebies.
and now i understand where all your bs that is on this page is coming from cause honestly this whole thing is insanely offensive and just further from the truth 😂 it's funny how wrong you've been on damn near every comment on this video.
@@brycelynds3768 It may be BS but my crystal ball has been pretty damn good. 1. I predicted a 50-112 season back in April 2023. OK. That was sheer luck with regards to getting it right. 2. More important, I predicted before the start of the season that either by April or at the latest the All Star Break that the A's would announce a move to Vegas. Sorry, that's the way it is folks.
@@hoapres LMFAO man you predicted one of the worst rosters in history to have one of the worst records. bro you're worse than the guy on twitter who was bragging that rooker was an all star when every team gets one. A's also don't have public support in vegas, woulnd't own their stadium, would still be on revenue sharing with the smallest ballpark in the league, and can;'t figure out how to build there. What a crysyal ball you got... you're a fortuneteller. FOH