A's LATEST: Oakland expansion guarantee? Sacramento the "front-runner"? (with John Shea)
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- Опубликовано: 10 май 2024
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Original reporting: www.sfchronicle.com/sports/os...
There is a glimmer of hope for Oakland’s future as a home for a major-league baseball team, and for the development of the Coliseum site.
Although the Athletics intend to leave town forever, the Oakland Mayor’s Office and the baseball Commissioner’s Office have had preliminary talks about the possibility of Oakland being guaranteed an expansion team, in return for the city giving the A’s a lease extension at the Coliseum.
Also, Oakland is very interested in persuading A’s owner John Fisher to sell his 50% interest in the Coliseum site, for which an Oakland group has plans for a major development.
Possible end result: a major development of the Coliseum site, which could include a new ballpark to house a big-league expansion team.
Original reporting: theathletic.com/5281617/2024/...
Sacramento is the front-runner to host the A’s from 2025-27 before they move to Las Vegas, a person briefed on the team’s search process told The Athletic on Friday.
Salt Lake City and a return to the Oakland Coliseum are the other two remaining possibilities for an interim home, the person said. A decision is expected in weeks, rather than months.
The A’s and the City of Oakland met on Thursday to discuss the possibility of the A’s staying in town through 2027.
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I was born and raised in Sacramento and lived in Salt Lake in the 80s. Both great cities but still want the A's to stay in the O.
Give me a break. Oakland sucks, and those two towns have great minor league parks that can be expanded. They'd have a market all to themselves.
Move the to Sacramento and I will be a die hard fan and attend games on those beautiful and warm Sacramento nights. Absolutely perfect for baseball!
As a Giants fan, we should have given them territorial rights to San Jose. They gave us rights to San Jose to stay in the Bay Area to begin with!
Yes but if they’re gonna stay in the Bay Area, they might as well stay in Oakland. It seems like the city wants a team no matter what it takes at this point.
But the A’s mistake in all that was not retaining the rights after the Giants ended up passing on San Jose, so they made a business mistake. I agree with the post to a point. It was really shared area to be honest, had the Giants been compensated a deal could have been worked out but neither team budged.
A's never had an advocate who could get things done like the Giants had in mayor Willie L. Brown, Jr. Jerry Brown, Ron Dellums NEVER supported sports and Libby Schaff didn't have the same cache that Brown had to negotiate and twist arms to get a stadium built for the A's.
That’s exactly what I said but the Giants threw that act of friendship back in our faces all because they want the market all to themselves
@@buicklincoln: Jerry Brown; Ron Dellums; Gavin Newsom are covert SF Giants & 49ers supporters. Why do you think 49ers owner declined to build & share new NFL stadium with Raiders at Santa Clara CA nearby Palo Alto & San Jose upon stay in the SFBA-NORCAL pro-sports market? Remember since 1958, MLB Giants relocated from NYC to SFBA arrival as first, than Athletics did after 1968. SFBA-NORCAL has 7-8 million ppl as Boston or Philly to support per each pro-sports teams: MLB; NFL; NBA; NHL; MLS.
Former A’s fans are more likely to never watch MLB ever again than to become Giants fans.
This is a fact, MLB will be dead to me and a lot of us.
You can just watch other games and enjoy the sport
Then you were never really a fan of the Oakland Athletics since birth. A true fan sticks to their team, regardless if a team has a best or worst season, have an undefeated or a winless streak, or play in a different city.
U hit the nail on the head, as of 4/20/23 40 years of A's memorabilia and Fandom left FOREVER, not only the A's but the ENTIRE MLB!!
I am 69 hears old, grew up as a Giants fan, and always hated the A's, so you can take your reply and put it where the sun doesn't shine, Oakland fan! Willie Mays kicks Henderson's ass!
Call Fisher’s bluff. Sacramento is just a threat. Stick it to him..
Right he is just trying to drive down the bargaining price. Fvck that guy and Manfred too
Fisher has other options, he will find a temporary home even if it is not the best option for a couple years. He does not care if he loses money, Vegas is going to double the value of the A’s.
@@scotttild He’s a scum bag to put it nicely. He apparently has no self respect. His name has been dragged through the mud nationally and locally.
@@scotttildliterally all he cares about is not losing money lol
@@scotttild if he does not care about losing money then why is he moving to Vegas? Him and Dave Kaval flat out stated that they are trying to relocate because they want to remain on the leagues revenue sharing which is $40 Million. He came back to Oakland to negotiate lease extension because if he moves out the Bay, he loses $70 million from the local TV Market
In my opinion it would be in everybody's best interest for the cities of Oakland and Sacramento to have both NHL and MLB teams in each city.
Just so Rob Manfred knows, as soon as the A’s leave Oakland you will lose that entire fan base and area for life. The A’s last day in Oakland will be my last day giving a single shit about MLB because they clearly don’t either.
Most fans will come back, just like when the Raiders left…Twice!
@@ivandragomiloff2356nope. Gone forever
@@ivandragomiloff2356the NFL is different and Al Davis had a deep connection to Raider Nation. That’s comparing apples to oranges. Also Alligent is constantly being taken over by road crowds.
Nah. Not lose the entire fan base and area for life. Not “lose the entire fan base and area for life.” /
@@Nedflanders444 Al and son betrayed Oakland twice…again they screwed Oakland and no one has the guts to say how they devastated the fan base and hurt the city, county and coliseum authority financially.
I like this guy. Thanks John for all of your effort and hard work on covering this! Manfred 's recent comments about the Giants being a viable alternative to losing our team just shows EXACTLY how out of touch he is in regards on how this will affect generations of Oakland A's fans throughout Northern California. If the Dodgers suddenly left to Montreal their fans wouldn't suddenly morph into Angels fans, smh common sense.. I just want our team to stay home!
Between 1958 and 1967, Oakland baseball fans were Giants fans. I'm 69 and know this. Get a clue!
@@ldfreitas9437most of us are not as old as you. I have been an A’s fan my entire 60 years. I will never root for the Giants, and My children will not either. I won’t be able to influence my grandchildren directly, but I’ll try. Sadly you are not like most Giants fans who are decent folks and have sympathy for A’s fans.
@@ldfreitas9437 Who cares. I was born in 1981!
@@gregorycoan8871 💯
@@ldfreitas9437this may come as a surprise to you, but it's not 1958 anymore.
I've been an As fan since I was born, and will not be a Giants fan. I won't even be an MLB fan if they move. The way Sielig, Manfred, Fischer, and Wolff fucked us over, it's done if they leave.
Comments that A’s fans should become Giants fans just makes he hate Manfred even more. 😡😡😡
I will never become a Giants fan after 52 years supporting the A's. I am done with MLB right now. I may see the last game at the Coliseum but it will be a tear fest.
You can't confuse Manfred with someone like Bart Giamatti.
Manfred is a clown.
Brodie, great coverage of this topic. I just discovered you a few weeks ago and I’m already a regular watcher. Thank you!!
Why would I, if I were a Sacramento resident, want to go see a forlorn minor league club masquerading as a major league team, any more than my cousin over in Oakland would? Especially a team that dissed their host city like they did? I can't grasp that kind of thinking...The players. It's not just the A's players that are being given "substandard" facilities (although I don't think of Raleys as being derelict). It's the visiting players as well, especially those AL West teams in a high rotation in and out of whatever place the A's are at. The MLBPA should have been kicking in the door at the beginning, both at the A's front office and in Midtown Manhattan, and on tour with this roadshow of the A's telling them what is or isn't acceptable...I used to have one of those double logo'ed caps. I never had a problem with the Giants team, and still don't. I'm happy for them if they're winning. On the other hand, Giants management can go to hell for the doublecross they just pulled, and Manfred's words just show that he's a garden variety hood with sociopathic level lack of empathy for Oakland fans - if not an outright contempt for them...Lastly. the City of Oakland's responsibility is not to A's fans. It's to the taxpayers of Oakland. It's a fiduciary responsibility to manage assets in such a way that protects the interests of Oakland citizens. All of them. Most Oaklanders are probably A's fans, but it is not a totally overlapping Venn diagram. The City needs to find out if the A's are going to pay their way (which they really haven't so far) and what their intentions are. If they plan on trying to milk this cow solely based on the emotional attachment of A's fans, the City has every right and responsibility to break Fisher's plate as soon as they can legally do so. If they have other parties lined up to take over the Coliseum, then MLB can take a hike and the City can recover more money for the upkeep...The Ballers are setting up at another historic facility. One with a lot of short and long-term possibilities. Whether they are major or minor league, I care not. Are they fun to watch? Do they respect the fans? Do they try? Meaning facilities, amenities, promotions, fan appreciation? Those are the things I care about, and the trolls csn laugh all they want about Oakland having a minor league team now. If that place gets surrounded by food trucks, that team will have better food available than the A's ever did in their hundred years of existence. Maybe better than the Giants. Maybe better (and certainly cheaper) than Yankee Stadium. Hell, maybe the best in pro sports...
Oakland has done NOTHING to warrant having a Denny's or In-N-Out Burger, what makes anybody think that people would want to go to Oakland for a ball game? The only thing that Oakland did was build a nicer stadium than Kansas City did so CharlieO moved them to Oakland.
Bottom line: Is John Fisher in a heap of trouble???
Shame on Kings/Rivercats owner Vivek for getting involved on helping John Fisher helping a city potentially lose a team......Sacramento almost lost Kings
Pretty damn ironic, maybe he has a grand scheme to buy the A's from Fisher if Vegas fails, then just keep them in Sac until a stadium gets built, crazier things have happened.
If I were Fisher, at this point I’d be asking Rob Manfred to give me guaranteed rights to ownership for a Vegas expansion team and just sell off the A’s to Joe Lacob’s ownership group. Seems like something has to give this upcoming year and I don’t think baseball in Oakland is over yet at all.
Brilliant comment Griffin. In the end a similar conclusion might happen here in the mid 1990s with the NFL in Cleveland And Baltimore.
That is the original Browns moving to Baltimore to become the Ravens. Then Cleveland gets a new separate expansion team a couple of years later.
Would rather see Fish sell to Dave Stewart group and move them to Nashville
@@chuckgolden2521 I don’t The Stewart led Nashville Ownership group wants the A’s. Instead they want an expansion team.
@americangiant1003 Nashville wants a baseball team. I would prefer to get the A's than an expansion team, but the white sox are also a possibility.
@@djowers1349 The only team right now maybe in play for a possible relocate team for Nashville is the White Sox. With the City of Chicago and State of Illinois both having the headache 🤕 of probably to get new buildings for both the NFL and White Sox that combined could cost minimum $5 billion. Still I think the White Sox likely stays in Chicago but with a new ballpark near Downtown.
I would be shocked if the A’s don’t stay on the West Coast. Whether it’s a new ballpark in the Bay Area or relocation to Vegas, Sacramento or Salt Lake City. Plus it will screw up the MLB divisional alignment.
Finally I think I heard Dave Stewart (correct me If I am wrong)made clear his strong preference of his Ownership group to get an expansion team for Nashville.
I wonder if the City should take it a step further and not allow the A's to stay at the Coliseum, regardless of a guarantee for expansion and keeping the A's name. They could do this and squeeze Fisher to sell the team since he won't be able to fund the park in Vegas. Why wait for an expansion when you could force Fisher to sell, and keeping the team in Oakland, by not giving him an easy out to Vegas? He needs that TV money. He also can't afford to pay for a temporary upgrade to a triple A park in Sacramento/Utah on top of building a park in Vegas. Squeeze this POS and force him to sell!
@user-ih7hq3es1s it's not what he can afford. It's what he's willing to pay for. He is a cheapskate, and will absolutely pay bare minimum at best. If squeezed, he'd sell before he shelled out more money
@@user-ih7hq3es1s Fisher came crawling back to the city he spurned. He recently put the earthquakes up as leverage. The stock price of his daddy’s company has tanked. He still hasn’t produced the actual funding he needs to build this ballpark in Vegas when it supposed to be provided months ago. He also recently leveraged the Earthquakes. Lastly, he only gets the $70 million from the TV deal only if the A’s play in Oakland. Thats why I think Fisher may struggle to afford a billion dollar ballpark and the city has leverage enough to squeeze him. No one knows for sure what is happening, but his recent behavior points to trouble producing the necessary cash.
Understand MLB approved this move 30-0. Ignoring the opening part of David Sampson's Feb 16th show, if MLB needs to make this work, they have the money to do so.
I wouldn't slam the door on the A's if they're back wanting to talk; they'll make alternate plans and the other owners will enjoy saying "Thanks but no thanks" when someone in Oakland wants to start up an expansion club.
@@HHSGDFootballJPD they are already funding him through revenue sharing and bypassing the relocation fee. You think they’re just gonna keep ponying up more cash. How much slack are they willing give him? Even Passan commented about how incompetent Fisher is. This can only go on for so long.
Delusion strong with this one
As a life-long resident of the Sacramento area...we don't want the A's in Sacramento. They belong in Oakland.
Really? Get real. They'd have a market to themselves.
I will become an A’s fan if they move to Sac. I wager for every A’s fan lost because of the move from Oakland, they will gain two or more A’s fans in the Sac Region. Plus, you won’t have games where the stadium is empty on a summer evening guaranteed!!!
You spelled Philadelphia wrong
As a Sacramento native, I don't want to see Sacramento become a launching pad to help the A's leave for Nevada. It would be one thing if the A's were moving to Sacramento permanently, since at least they'd be staying in NorCal, just a bus trip away from Oakland...but to help them go to Vegas? Forget about it.
John is a true gem!
Anyplace but Las Vegas …WE DON’T WANT THE A’s
@@Rob-Ltruly on fisher kaval payroll. Don't deny it you are.
@Rob-L doesn't matter as long as Deano owns them it'll be the same result. They are the clippers of the nfl. The same result is happening with fisher. The excitement is staged and fake. Just admit your getting free stuff for defending your boy John and Dave
@Rob-L it doesn't matter. as long as Deano owns them it will be the same result they are the clippers of the NFL. Just admit your getting free stuff for defending your boss John and Dave
@@Rob-L More than one is we .. unlike you as you stand alone .
@@Rob-Lthis guy just likes to be a jerk. Total a hole
I've always told my Giants "fans" friends this:
I'd much rather not watch baseball ever again than be a giants fan.
Sadly, I never thought in my lifetime I'd have the opportunity to prove that statement yet here we are. Once the A's are fully gone from oakland, I'm no longer following baseball.
I know they don't care, I'm just some average Joe lol but it always feels good to vent it out
lol I say Oakland sticks to their guns Sacramento give me a break
Grew up going to games and little league day every year .
Walking around the field.
I will no longer watch baseball.
Sell the team to an owner who wants to keep them in Oakland
Fisher ONLY cares to stay in Oakland because of the $70 million TV deal. Fisher needs money to move because no one in Vegas, outside of MGM & the Nevada Governor, want his team, so how is he going to move ?
Tell him to pack sand and leave! Don't give Fisher anything! Let him crash n burn! If he cared anything at all about baseball fans, he would sell to an Oakland buyer and take his fortune and ride off into the sunset.
Manfred thinks Oakland is an issue, wait until he moves the A's to Vegas into a tiny domed stadium on the most traffic congested spot on the Strip! This team will have to sell and move it, just to save it. Nevada taxpayers are NOT pleased with their taxes supporting this billionaire and you think fan attendance sucks in Oakland, wait until you see the lack of support in Vegas!
Manfred and his cronies will own this when they lose this great fan base and this great franchise
Oakland is a crime ridden dump thst has not had a police chief for over a year, there us a recall petition for the mayor and Alameda County DA, etc. It's time for the A's to leave Oakland and dystopia CA as well.
As an A’s fan in Sacramento I am torn, I think they should stay in Oakland but would love a MLB team in Sacramento. I remember my very first A’s game, I still have the ticket, 1991 it was Donruss card game they gave cards of the whole team, Mark, Jose, Ricky, Carney, Gallego, D Stew, all the late 80’s 90’s team that just lost to the Reds in the WS the year before. I walked into the Coliseum as a kid and it was magical. The sights, sounds and smells of the game I can remember like it was yesterday. I don’t want kids in Oakland to miss that magic.
Same
Not sure where all these silly conversations about alcohol come from. I've never attended a Jazz game RSL or a Bee's game without purchasing beer. Nobody wants to be affiliated with Fisher anyway. SELL! SELL! SELL!
Booze & Basketball!
I just haven't been able to stop thinking about this is an Injustice not only to Oakland to the entire Bay Area
Just out of curiosity, is the spring training facility a possibility?
If the Warriors and Sharks ownership groups buy the Expansion what would they expected investment in the payroll be? Would A's fan be happy with 100 million payroll. or do they need to compete with the Giants payrolls. Just wondering what the realistic ideal payroll would be for A's fans.
HOLD THE LINE....
So true the Covid year Blue Jays players hated it.
If Fisher wasn't the owner Sacramento would draw a good size bay area fan base for games.
Las Vegas only has a handful of A's fans at best.
Remember Las Vegas ---along with the A's you'll get Fisher and Kaval.
Let Oakland & Alameda County allocate 500 million right now for a new ballpark. Either the a's would change course and stay (unlikely) or mlb sees it in terms of future expansion. That's how you show you're serious. Otherwise, nobody is taking Oakland seriously for future baseball.
If Sac gets an expansion the difference with Oakland is Sac will def build a modern stadium & get support from politicians
Over on my channel I made the case for why Sacramento should land the A’s, as for expansion I think Nashville & Salt Lake want it and deserves it
Sacramento not considered bay area so bye bye to the 67M per sports contract
Exactly.
A's would have a market to themselves. Get a clue!
@@ldfreitas9437one of the worst in the nation lol . Vegas is pretty at the bottom
Actually it’s NBC Sports California, which covers Sacramento, so the contract won’t be voided 😂
@@ivandragomiloff2356 actually it doesn’t. Tv deal is in regards to the market my man. This has been covered extensively.
Or the current owner needs to play there make him pay. He will loose tens of millions a season if he goes to a minor league park . Use that money to rebuild the coliseum and get an expansion team that the current owner pays for.
For a young major leaguer, what a better experience? Playing a home game in Sacramento front of 15,000 in a full minor league ballpark, or playing in front of 5,000 in the Coliseum that holds 40,000?
Play at Cashmen field, both sides put money to fix it up, start building fan base in Vegas, add LED lights, add some seats to seat 18,000 full capacity, build up training room, and even fix pipes, city of Vegas and A’s owner split cost and set up a good place for 3 years .. build up fan base in Vegas
That is far too many additions to make to Cashman - you’d effectively be building a new stadium.
What's wrong with being a fan of both the A's and the Giants in the Bay area? One is in the N.L., the other is, or at least used to be, in the A.L. The National League's New York Gothams (who were renamed the Giants in 1885) were a charter member of the National Association in 1883, followed by the American League's Philadelphia Athletics in 1901. After a stay in Kansas City (1955 - 1967), the A's fled the Midwest to find a new find a new home on the West Coast after the 1957 season was completed. There's no rivalry between the two. They only share the Northern California (or "NorCal" region).
Lol, there's a rivalry between the fans for sure.
@@KippinCollars The Giants, l would believe, rival are the Los Angeles Dodgers, harkening back to the days the two franchises (along with their fanbases) battled the National League supremacy, representing Queens and Brooklyn, respectively. Both franchises kept their rivalries in 1958 when both teams relocated to the Golden State. In the American League, the A's chief rivalry would be the Kansas City Royals, although this rivalry wound not be as intense or historic.
How does the departure of the Raiders and Athletics effect Cal and Stanford? Will they benefit by potentially absorbing those sports entertainment dollars?
Especially CAL
I must be the only person who thinks Fisher could successfully sue the JPA or the City of Oakland to play at the Coliseum in '25 and beyond.
Please don’t bring anything to do with Oakland to Sacramento. Please 🙏
If Oakland doesn't let the A's stay in the Coliseum at least thru 2027 I'm virtually certain they will never get an expansion team. There's no way MLB would give a team to city that kicked the last major league team out of a vacant stadium. Especially because I imagine the A's would probably offer much more than the lease would typically be worth for one of the worst stadiums in baseball. I figure Oakland could probably get the A's to pay about half of the $210M coming if they stay. The other thing Oakland could do is just offer to let the A's stay all of the next 4 years for free in exchange for leaving the A's name behind. That would basically be the city of Oakland buying the A's brand without paying anything by just letting them use the stadium instead. If Oakland does that and then also decides to go ahead and build out the Howard Terminal site with city funds like Miami did it could virtually guarantee Oakland would get an expansion team and it would still be called the A's. That's what they should do if they really are that dedicated to having major league team. I have my doubts a plan like that would get enough support in Oakland but it would almost certainly work. It would be a win-win-win for Oakland MLB fans though. They'd get a new stadium, they'd keep the A's and they'd get rid of Fisher all in one fail swoop. The good news is the whole development would be owned by the city though so all the revenue made outside the stadium itself would go straight back into the city and that would likely be hundreds of millions of dollars every year if they developed it the right way like The Battery in Atlanta.
Tf you mean "one of the worst stadiums in _baseball"_ it's definitely the worst stadium in all of professional sports
@@joeschmidt6597 I tend to agree but I'm trying to leave room for other people's personal opinions. Brodie Brazil has said he thinks Tropicana Field in Tampa Bay is worse than the Coliseum. I've never been to the Trop and people are entitled to their own opinions. I was trying to be more factual by saying one of the worst rather than start a debate of opinions about which one is definitely *the* worst.
NHL Golden Seals, NFL Raiders, NBA Warriors, MLB A’s. Oakland does not want to be a sports city.
Lousy ownerships didn't help.
Will the saber cats play in the Colosseum?
A's should be allowed to build the waterfront park in Oakland and MLB owners should guarantee/loan the money to them. It's time for pro baseball and pro football to pay for their own stadiums! Stop asking for public funds! Make it the law that they are not allowed to use public funds or demand punlic improvements to move somewhere or build a stadium.
Lame Duck: Etymology
18th century: a person who had defaulted in the London Stock Exchange was said to waddle out of Exchange Alley like a lame duck.
The Giants own rights to Sacramento and San Jose I have been told in the past, so I believe the Giants won’t allow them to play there
Fisher....stay out of Sacramento......from an A's fan who lives in Sacramento! I will be protesting in front of the stadium. John Fisher and MLB are garbage! Sham on Vivek (the Kings/Rivercats owner)
P.s. I used to work for the Rivercats when they were A's affiliate.
There was some news the other day that came out and may explain the rendering delay. The report stating that the team designing the new As ballpark has submitted three different renderings, with the ballpark on different parts of the Tropicana site since it is not agreed upon which nine acres on the site the As will get. Which one ultimately gets built depends on what Ballys ultimately does with the site. So as much grief as Fisher gets, and rightly so, the delay may not be on him, but on Ballys trying to figure out what the heck they want to do with the site.
SLC wants the team and has the resources to make it happen properly.
By all means, keep them in Oakland no matter what it takes.
There going to Vegas
Oakland Don't do the extension Fisher will lose out on over 200 million dollars on his TV deal if he s not in Oakland
Manfred seems so out of touch with everything.
I hope A's lose were go Las Vegas Mayor they don't want A's 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅.
$50M per season. Fisher left once, so let him go elsewhere. Want the tv money, he'll have to go to SF.
Why would Sacramento welcome the same relocation crap ownership they dealt with like the Maloofs? Neither of them wanted to put money in anything and have the cities pay for everything. Let the A's stay nomads. But I feel bad for the players caught in the middle of it all. Hell no.
I'll NEVER root for the Giants. If the Taliban had a baseball team and they played the Giants, I'd root for the Taliban.
I cant give you enough thumbs up!
The Giants are the evil empire for me, after they glorified the steroid freak.
And Canseco…
Is there any remote possibility that Sacremento could somhow raise Arco Field from the dead, and nabuild it to MLB standards?
Nope. It's built up now.
@@WilliamYee-rv1eq Okay, thanks; didn't know that.
This situation is so dysfunctional. MLB tolerating an owner who isn’t committed to winning, a fan base that won’t attend games in any meaningful numbers and a City, who’s leadership top to bottom is incapable of addressing the city’s basic problems, much less building a major league ballpark. Good luck…
Put Royals in Oakland
Move A’s to Kansas City
Solved 🥃🔥
Then the A's would threaten to leave Kansas City if that proposed stadium isn't done by 2030
🤯
I would much rather have Oakland's roller coaster of success than the Royals who've sucked for all but 2 yrs in the last 20.
The A’s can follow through on Finley’s threat to play in a cow pasture in Peculiar, MO!
I can't wait to see the A's in Vegas
You're in the minority. You will never get the passionate fans like they do in Oakland, just drunk tourists rooting for their team.
@@oiler62
You don't know that he's in the minority.
You're not a fan of the idea, which is fine, and you may converse with like-minded people who are not a fan of the Las Vegas A's, but that does not speak for the entire population as a whole, unless you've conducted a survey and gathered the data.
@@oiler62 I'm actually a majority. A majority of people who do not care. Nobody cares about Oakland or its baseball team. What I find hilarious is you do called fans didn't even go to the games. Empty stadiums for years and then when they decide to move you whine. Good or bad you should still go to the games. You so-called "fans" only want it one way. Your way. I'm glad the ownership doesn't care about your tears.
@@sh0t0kan do you even know the history of Fisher and how he's run this team and treated the fans, his employees and minor leaguers? Google it, it's not pretty. He'll sell after a few years because he'll get no love in Sin City. You guys don't tolerate losing (and losers), right?
@@oiler62 If you already understand his modus operandi, you really shouldn't be upset then. I don't know anything about him but I also know baseball is a business and you're not making money when you're averaging 10k attendance. Can't buy talent if there is no money. Oakland is a city that is dying it has bigger problems than a baseball team leaving. It has a moron of a mayor and rampant crime. I'm not an A's fan but I like what Vegas is doing. It is becoming an entertainment mecca. It will have almost everything eventually and that to me is pretty great. You can go to Vegas try your luck at the tables, catch a day game and grab a hot dog. Not go A's stadium, watch your team kick the crap out of them. Then be on the defense while leaving the stadium because you don't wanna get mugged while heading back to your hotel.
We were hoping they’d come to SLC until the stadium in Vegas is completed.
Stop being so weird about beer and Sunday games.
@@selanryn5849 Me, or the state?
Fisher should just sell the team to Vivek Ranadive and Arctos Sports Equity, and move to Sacramento permanently. Give Sacramento 4 years to build a stadium in the Railyards adjacent to downtown. The Railyards is slated to have a stadium, and has rail, light rail, freeway infrastructure already in place. Then give Las Vegas an expansion team, along with Salt Lake.
Oakland is not a big league city anymore. It has lost the Warriors and the Raiders already. It was a matter of time that the A’s moved to a more vibrant, growing, area.
Let's hope they move there and then fans boycott and he's forced to sell the team
I dont want them to delay the enebdible. if the A's are leaving I support them leaving at the end of 2024. forget the exstention. the only way the exstention will work . is if wet expansion team and we keep the name an colors.
Oakland is not going to get an expansion team they had their chance on with the stadium in a blew it The expected team will go to either Portland or salt lake and Nashville.
They didn't blow it. Fisher bailed out, has no money, too lazy and wanted free money in Vegas like Mark Davis.
There is no way fisher wants to make a new stadium in Oakland with all the crime. What if a stadium was built in santa clara. But Manfred has to drop the giants territory. Fisher will be happy San Jose happy Bayarea keeps the A;s . The giants dont need san jose territory. Fans come from all over.
Give Las Vegas an expansion franchise and let Fisher transfer his ownership to that one and let Oakland keep the A’s. Thats what would make the most sense in this situation. I don’t know why MLB doesn’t see this as a solution
In the end Jay, I think this is how this Oakland/Vegas saga in MLB ends. Fisher gets an expansion team in Vegas. While with new Ownership gets the reborn Oakland A’s 2.0 by the latest, the end of the decade around the 2029 or ‘30 season.
…and Oakland would do better if they were guaranteed the next expansion team especially if they get to keep the Team name and colors. Not like you have had a team really playing there the last few years anyways.
Approve the lease extension...but only if MLB guarantees an expansion team to Oakland beginning play no later than 2029. Otherwise? Let Fisher figure it out.
They will figure it out across the bay.
I’ll walk away from MLB when the A’s leave.
Sorry but Oakland is never going to get an expansion team . It makes no sense to let a team who is there leave and replace it with another team ..
It does when the owner is the reason things suck
@@stefanbrown5872owner and the politicians of Oakland. Mayor thao is so over her head
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@@jasontapia1032 seems like your in over your head with the few misplaced and wrong comments you made.
Seems like the scummy unions in Vegas are in over their head considering the mayor, the people of Vegas, the media, former players and gms don’t want the A’s in Vegas.
I mean Oaklands going through it no doubt, but don’t be that guy who sucks fishers balls
@@HHSGDFootballJPD None of those teams moved into sprawling crime filled ghettos full of homelessness drugs and poverty although thanks to democrat rule they are turning that way ..Maybe it’s why the Caps and Wizards are looking to move ? Just a thought
I will never ever be a giants fan. Baseball is dead to me if they leave.
Oakland’s leadership is terrible, and the A’s will be the third team to leave as proof… and their fans for all of their outrage have never supported the A’s consistently ….look at the attendance figures, even when the A’s were good. I would love them in Sacramento for a couple of years and can’t wait for them to move to Las Vegas. The city of Oakland is not a “destination” or an experience anyone wants, and never will be again…..
oakland should keep name A
MLB is never going to give Oakland an expansion team. There is simple no place to build unless they are going to do some kind of district with the current site. But there really is nothing to attract people to that location. As for Sacramento, short term maybe, Giants and A’s explored Sacramento before and didn’t think it would work. A’s will get a short term lease MLB will say they will consider an expansion team if a new stadium and ownership group is developed. Neither of which I see happening.
Howard terminal is already approved and ready to go as a site fisher backed out last minute someone with money could easily build at Howard and play at the coliseum while they build
ThenCity never made a deal with the Port. It was not fully funded and there were lots of details. To say it was just Fisher is flat out wrong. The full amount of rent the Port was going to get was the issue and the shortfall between the City and Fisher. It was never finalized. The Port and the city never fully had an an agreement either. The were several hundred million apart when the deal fell apart, and most of that issue was the land, the value of it and how much the Port was going to get. The three could never make a deal. If it was just the City and Fisher sure something might have been worked out but it was the Port that was the sticking point.
Please keep the A's in Oakland. 🤞 Fisher's shit show wont do well in Vegas.
I would like for them to come to Sacramento that way I could see my Yankees when they come to town.
Yikes
Old dudes comments are silly. Whybwoukd you push for them to stay on oakland to bring in new families when they can drive across a bridge and do the same? But then pan slc who has never had a major team and could convert drastically more young families. Make a better argument.
To be clear, I want them to stay in Oakland forever. Just an argument
@@minifig8012it will probably be fire sale prices at the Coliseum if they stay on through to 2028
Dumb
Like I’ve been saying! SAN JOSE A’S!!!
Oh, Lord! The whining millionaire players don't want to play in certain so-called minor league stadiums. Cool. Chop off the tram and those 26 MLB slots. See how quick they pivot.
John Shea is another emotional reporter. He hasnt been right about a single thing either. He seems to want the A's to be the cheap option in the Bay
Not taking a stance one way or another, but the idea that players would prefer the Oakland facility over Sacramento is not very well thought out. Even if the team negotiates an extended Oakland lease, the ball park will be all but empty for those years and will absolutely have the worst amenities of any stadium in all of American pro sports. Sacramento will pack Sutter Park for every game and will probably upgrade the stadium for the years the A's are there in an effort to lure an expansion team. No way an empty, decrepit Coliseum is the better option from the player perspective.
I hope national sports league crash and have to face reality
You don't need any Stadium just playing a minor league park that's all Oakland can draw anyway
Oakland isn’t a major league town. It’s already been abandoned by the NFL and the NBA. Attendance to A’s games was problematic even when they were winning so how could any ‘guarantee’ of an expansion team be real especially with viable baseball friendly locations like Nashville, Salt Lake City and Sacramento are out there.
Dig deeper
Why on Earth would MLB give Oakland an expansion team, even some good years they have not supported that team not to mention its a poor dying city in a metro area with one team already, it makes NO sense.
Who ever said MLB made sense ⁉️🤣
Yes, the O has issues like a lot of big cities like Detroit, St.Louis and Cleveland but far from poor and dying. Average family income $95k, average home price $750k. Great neighborhoods, cool architecture.
If Oakland is dying then just have the Giants and the A's permanantly share Pac-Bell Park!!! Problem solved!!!
@@zcorpalpha2462... MLB has NEVER made an sense .... under Selig and "Manfraud"
The As regularly outsold the Giants when the As had an owner who invested in the team. Fischer has done his best to alienate fans for almost 20 years, all so he could cry that the fans don't support the team and rubes like you buy it hook, line, and sinker.
Sacramento should be one of the places the Athletics move to, not Lost Wages.