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Yeah I'm one of those former atheists. That life left me broken without direction. I finally understood why religion is there in the first place. Trying to get rid of religion is pointless. Human beings are fundamentally religious creatures. We will always need God.
This is beautiful. Praise the Lord!
No. we dont need god. its a meme. it needs us.
I'm a former Christian that feels the exact same way. Religion left me broken without any truth to be found.
@@Deep.Purple Religion did not leave you broken, you were broken before you got into whatever religion you got into and then you left one religion for another religion. RELIGION (RE)
@@matswessling6600 Category Error Fallacy and Strawmanning Fallacy. No Christian believes in or worships "god," "a god," or "one of many gods."
“At the heart of the Christian message is God Himself waiting for His redeemed children to push in to conscious awareness of His presence.”
- A.W. Tozer
That hits hard.
I felt a click, bro.
Thanks for posting Wisdom.
prefer cs lewis to tozer
tozer tried to nmake christianity some eastern psuedo religion.
I study none of the men people talk about in their quotes. I was an Atheist decades ago. I was bornin 1966. I done some experiments when I was younger to see if there was a God species and then I was won over by the Holy Spirit. Then I was discipled by the Holy Spirit in scripture, but al so in doing miracles. I never studied anyone's books as I had my roommate inside me, and he was the one Jesus said to follow and to listen to before he left and went back up to heaven.
See John chapters 14, 15, 16 & 17. Then see PSALMS 82, then see John chapter 10 where Jesus quotes from PSALMS 82. Then see Matthew 25, judgment of the Sheep and Goats where they are judged based on their deeds, not confession of his name, but deeds of mercy get them saved... after the resurrection, at the actual Great White Throne Judgment. The Holy Spirit showed me correct answers to questions Atheist have and proof most Christians and Catholics do not know what they are talking about, thus they are violating PSALMS 82 and this is why believers die like mortals.
If Jesus teaches more than one way to enter into eternal life (when speaking to different people) then there is more than one way to enter into eternal life, but so-called Believers say every person can only enter by confessing Jesus' name. They think because Peter says how to enter by Name, that it is the only way to enter. That is a false interpretation. Peter is saying By Name, there is no other Name, but that does not and cannot negate Jesus' words in his teachings on how to stay out of eternal judgment and does so to different people. By #1 Not Judging, #2 Deeds of Mercy, #3 Receiving a Holy Man because he is a Holy Man, #4 Receiving a prophet because he is a prophet, #5 Receiving / Welcoming anyone of his brothers or sisters, #6 Follow the laws of Moses and the Prophets.
Those are Jesus' words and Jesus' words last forever. Jesus' words never fail and can never be broken or undone. Somehow men and women teach Antichrist Teachings from the pulpits and in their books and at their lectures against the words of Jesus and against the words of God his father, and they get gobs of people (who claim to be Believers) to believe it is the Gospel Message. The Holy Spirit taught me to always remember that any teachings against Jesus' Words or his father God's Teachings are lies or they are twisting scripture into something it is not. Which means it is unintentional lies, but it is still False Knowledge and False Knowledge is the Devil.
You don’t have to believe to pray, you just need to be humble enough to acknowledge you don’t know and sincerely ask… my first prayer before conversion was “I don’t know if you are real but if you are I really want and need to know. Please show me.” I read countless comments of other people saying their first prayer was similar. He answers. But if you don’t have the humility and genuine desire to ask, you heart is kept hard and your mind closed.
Essential comment. Bless you.
How did God answer you
Thank you for sharing what you ask the LORD. It helps me know what to pray for those with this worldview.
Asked…
Before I was saved and converted I began praying and I often asked to be helped with my disbelief.
It's rather fascinating to see how the secular/atheist conclusion among a few of its most well known figures shifted drastically from "religious belief is only a hindrance for society" to "y'know there's actually something of value in the christian religious practice".
Wouldn't necessarily call this a complete victory for the christian position, but still a huge leap forward from the previously held view many of them had 10 years ago.
It hasn't at all, Dawkins has always said he's a cultural Christian since writing "The God Delusion" and Eric Weisntein's Jewish
Religion is merely the manifestation of humanity's perception of its own reality... It IS our perception, it's how we view the world, where we determine our place in relation to everything else around us.
Atheism is indeed a religious perspective. A series of beliefs that wrap the universe up in a neat little bow and if anyone disagrees they call us stupid and ridicule us.
It is a tale older than time.
they are scared of islam that is all.
@@shadowpoet4398 There one difference you're not accounting for. Religion is not just our perception of reality, it is reality's imprint on our species. Thousands of years of lessons which reality whipped into our species are codified in religious belief.
Atheism is simply as you put it, our perception of reality, codified with lessons learned in a few centuries and about as easily forgotten. And the way I see it, reality is coming back with the whip.
@@ernimuja6991religion is s side effect. an unwanted side effect.
I was a great proponent of the new atheist movement and followed them ‘religiously’ so to speak. But I’m certain now that we have made a horrible mistake. The damage that movement has done is irreparable.
I’m trying to find my way back to God but old habits die hard. I hope one day I’ll receive God’s grace once again.
I am praying for you, brother. I know the dark waters of uncertainty. What is your first name? I want to pray for you by name to God my Father.
God's grace is already waiting! Because it's always Him who prompts the conversion, even the intention for conversion... And since you feel that longing in your heart, it means God has already reached His hand to you and seeks you!
But don't get demotivated, if that may also take time to adjust and find your way back. God knows what He's doing.
"The damage that movement has done is irreparable. " Put an example of that please.
You can receive Gods grace anytime! Christ is the God for all people of the world. Pray to Him and say “Lord I believe, help my unbelief.” Then, sit back and relax; He will hear your prayer and answer it.
Rory... thank you for you service to truth. This is the way.
Hang in there!
Catholic here and while I am not happy with the men that have been running my church, I still take time to worship God with The Lords Prayer and the rosary. Humanity needs something to help with the unexplained and guidance one can get from that.
As scientists often mistake the law of gravitation for gravity itself and forget that the law is not gravity, but only describes how it operates, similarly, atheists often mistake the properties and benefits of religion as if that that tells you enough about what truly believing in God is about. Far from it.
Great point!
The properties, benefits (and harms) are tangible. The truth claims of religion are not.
@@nitsujism Truth claims are self-evident, including the truth claims used in scientific axioms. If you believe that interactions of matter and energy explain everything in the universe, that is an unprovable truth claim.
”Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.“
2 Corinthians 4:4 NLT
Rubbish I don't need religios mumbo jumbo
@@user-mj5bl5dy1b thanks for proving the Bible right by acting exactly how it predicts you would❤️😊
I see prayer as either a reconnecting or reordering process where you don’t even need specific words that you need to say. Just humble yourself, silently focus and you’ll be guided. Although saying that I do think the Lord’s Prayer is perfection.
The Lord's prayer is the outline for how we should pray.
Glorify God
Thank Him
Beg mercy
Ask for guidance
When he asks "do you pray?" and responds with "I meditate" well the proper use of meditation is to focus on God, our relationship with Him, His purpose for us, and His mysteries. Meditation is a type of prayer and God needs to be at the center.
But people seem to disagree on the nature, role, and identity of God. Of course, every one who uses “God” believes their version is “the one true God”. So how does an impartial truth-seeker decide? Just go with first option presented? Study all the options available?
@@CMA418 I mean you can pretty much cull your choices down to a single god by asking the question: "does this god exist within the universe or apart from/outside of the universe?"
After all if a god exists within the universe then science is perfectly capable of measuring and proving or disproving its existence. Science has only disproven gods which exist within the universe (e.g. Atlas as he does not hold up the earth rather the sun's gravity keeps it in orbit) so we can toss every single one of them along with their religions out.
Coincidentally we are then left with one possible God and 3 possible religions
@@CMA418 If you must decide like that, your best bet is to start with a fundamental look inside of yourself to see where your true principles lie. After that, go to the religion that vibes with your principles.
@@conormccue2871 But then how do I know my own principles are sound to begin with? What of my principles are in error and I choose the wrong religion in error because it matches them?
@@CMA418 That's a you problem that has nothing to do with religion. If such doubt plagues you, you need to fix that first.
The human capacity for pride is astonishing.
I think a lot of these intellectuals that struggle to find faith would find it much easier if they began to seriously question the traditional theory of evolution. It's the glue that holds the materialist worldview together and without which, belief in God becomes almost unavoidable.
I agree. While believing in God, I still believed evolution was His tool. I listened to David Gelernter, a com sci professor at Yale, expressing his issue with evolution, and in about five minutes, I realized it's a badly broken theory. Gelernter also said he didn't like the idea that God creates everything because He's be responsible for ticks, mosquitos, and Ebola, and I feel the same. Even evolutionary biology professors are now saying parts of the theory are wrong.
The problem with intellectuals is that they make a God of their intellect. They believe they have to understand it and see if everything is kosher in their eyes before they believe it. The nature of God is that you will never fully comprehend Him. Otherwise it's not God. But come to Him without full comprehension requires humility, which is the first condition required to enter into the presence of God.
Scientific study has falsified all of Genesis. It's not just the theory of evolution although this theory is formed from evidence from the natural world.
@@beltigussin81 Materialists don't believe in objective truth. They believe in subjective conclusions. They will say one day that the truth is this, and the next day say the truth is that. Then they will say the science changed. The objective truth didn't change. The subjective conclusions changed. The truth casts a light that creates no shifting shadow. Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding. Without true axioms, we cannot draw true conclusions. We can only know that we know nothing.
The issue of objectivity and subjectivity arises in Genesis in the Garden of Eden. Humanity is tempted with the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Satan says it will make humanity like God. Rather than follow God's objective will, we create our own subjective will. We measure ourselves as equal to God in judgement. The whole of the law becomes 'Do as thou wilt'. The sacrifice of Jesus is redemption for original sin of humanity, an offer of God's law, objective truth, written on every human heart. Every human heart wrestles with God's law. The Hebrew word for wrestling with God is 'Israel'.
If a brick wall takes a designer, than surely a human cell does as well
I mentioned this before. David Wood talked about this on his last Apologetics Roadshow. He mentioned the parable of the mustard seed and the kingdom of God. The seed turns to a tree and the birds make their nests in it. He mentioned the birds can actually be these atheists that want to be cultural Christians. For those who don’t know, David was Nabeel Qureshi’s best friend.
"The ability for man to hope for something greater is evidence of free will." Can someone explain this?
It only mean it is a matter of choice. For everything we need evidence is already existing in front of us. We just need to choose whether to accept it or not.
Two equally intelligent minds with equal data, one can choose to hope for something good, something compatible with the data but not guaranteed by it, while the other can choose not to hope. The difference between them is called choice, and the difference exists.
Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
Jer10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
Romans9:17 17 For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.”fn
Great video. Thank you.
Keep praying for these gents and others like them that one day they sincerely decide to straight up ask Jesus to reveal himself. He will in a away only personal to them that can't be coincidence and it will shake their world in the most profound way. In Jesus mighty name!! 🙏🙌 God bless all in the chat ❤
Amen
Thanks for reminding us that it's not a fight of us against them but rather, we should hope for them to find the light.
@@tobbyman3d sure thing my brother. Prayers up Blessings up. 🙌
Zach has been on fire with the one liners
Great podcast
Seek and you will find. He is real, and the most beautiful thing in this world is knowing Him and having a relationship with Him. True, eternal joy , peace and hope. I pray the lost will find their way.❤
💯 percent agree. Be careful what you wish for because you might just get it ❤️✝️👑🙏
If these men would spend the time researching, archaeology and history of biblical events they would find all the evidence they need to support their faith.
Archaeologist have searched for evidence of the exodus from Egypt and haven't found any on par with the claim in the Bible.
@@thedude0000 What would you expect to find?
Whatever you find or don't find can only influence your decision. Ultimately you have to be willing to believe. There's probably people who saw the miracles of the apostles but refused to accept the gospel.
@@duplodragon In Exodus, it says 600,000 fighting men left; so, we know it was at a minimum that many people. However, that doesn't included the wives, children or non-fighting men.
We could easily estimate 1,000,000 people leaving Egypt. That many people wandering the desert for FORTY YEARS....
would leave behind archaeological sites..... *YET NOTHING HAS BEEN FOUND*
@@tobbyman3d _Ultimately you have to be willing to believe_
You don't get to choose what you believe. You're either convinced or not convinced by the evidence.
Seriously....just try choosing to believe that gravity does not affect you.
"what prayer moved you?"
For me its the Lord's prayer (Pater Noster). Its so beautiful, simple and powerful. I was hearing some women praying it on the holy rosary this week and moved me into tears
Even the non believers of our founding believed that there was a higher power at play in the creation of the country and that this belief of something or someone of higher power to answer to is absolutely fundamental in beginning to understand our fundemental rights as outlined in the US Constitution and Bill of Rights.
I was raised Christian and believed for 20 years and I basically never had a spiritual experience with God, I was satisfied with apologetics and sound knowledge that comes directly from the Bible and also the puzzles within prophecy, the debates that go on around that are very interesting.
So the summer of 2020 I fell spiritually, I got to feel for the first time what it feels like to be in the larger group/ feels comfortable/ I felt accepted and I felt a spiritual connection to something that wasn't God. Whatever this was it didn't want me to be married to a Christian and I blindly trusted my new intuition.
Eventually I had my first sober thought in like 8 months and I saw that I had been in need of help from God and I asked God for help and I told God that I reject where I was. So at this point I still have never experienced God and the first thing I experience is going from being fallen to being corrected. A lot of the spiritual stuff I was experiencing at the time was rather creepy and all of that stuff stopped abruptly. I started telling people how God helped me, kind of like I am now. And one night a year ago, I was laying in bed and I couldn't fall asleep. I perceived a hand and arm come over my left shoulder and lay down on my chest. When this hand touched me I felt like light was inside me, inside and out. I was more impressed by what it felt like,.. this unbelievably intense joy. Completely unearthly, there is nothing comparable to it. It isn't like being super happy/ winning the lottery.. It is so intense that it is rather frightening yet at the same time it was extremely satisfying. So the hand left after what felt like 3 seconds to me and I felt the light go away and the intensity of the joy went away but some of it kind of lingered behind like.. how you feel warm after taking a long hot shower. In some sense that joy had a similarity to breathing.. None of us can remember our first breath but I imagine what it is like for a baby who has been sustained by blood only, getting to breathe for the first time is kind of different>?
Idk what to make of what happened I just thought it was awesome and I hope other people get to experience that.
I've been watching your contents and loving it, so great stuff.
The sound effects tho, yeah not sure. I feel It "cheapens" what would otherwise be a really good thoughtful revisit of those complicated interviews. Reminds me of the chaos of the whatever podcast. My 2c opinions anyway.
people are often completly unaware of history, and how much it took to get here
This is the divide, we will see more and more, people who will be honest about being hot and cold.
You’re right it’s almost like Jesus is seaperating sheep from the goats. It’s getting harder for people to stand on the fence line.
Guy realizes the universe might be bigger than his limited imagination.. inspiring.
Wait until there's the Realization there is no mortal universe, and in fact, the purpose of what is called the universe of form is only meant to lie about the Omnipresent Kingdom of God right here, right now! This experience is not for mortal man. This experience is for the Soul, and it is necessary to remove the belief in a mortal human existence separate and apart from God!!
@@IandMyFatherareOne yeah, the Cliff Notes version of this sermon didn’t land exactly. Kudos for trying 🙌
Don't know what you got, until it's gone..or going
I think what he said about faith is true, we can't take it to every aspect of our lives without the power of the Spirit.
yeah they're the birds in the parable in Matthew 13
“Faith is a gift I’ve yet to RECEIVE” would be more to the point most likely
Jordan Peterson impression!😭💯 “woo”
HR> "Alright, good morning Dr. Peterson. Do you know why I called you in here today?"
JP> "Because you're a diabolical clown"
Self Worship is highly highly addictive. Thankful to be free of it. Prayer is asking Meditation is receiving
To be fair, they are encouraging people to open up to religion at some level; even though it's a low start. That will lead to more people becoming religious long term.
Great video. We on the cusp of something new… a reimagining of the Christian story and a new Christian intellectualism. May God grant both to his church.
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Bruh do you live in Gotham city or is it really cold outside or is it a green screen? If it is, then please change it! Y'all are killin me fr!
I'm an atheist, or at least an agnostic. I was raised in a "Christian" home, although my parents weren't much of a good example in my estimation. Despite being a non believer in the God of the bible I do believe there is a very good possibility of a higher power, simply because I cannot believe that if you were to blow up some lumber, nails, screws, etc. and wait 14 billion years it would ever turn into a house. That may not be a great analogy, but I think you get what I'm saying. If you're inclined to answer, please tell me what your answer would be to this question: If God is a loving and just God, one that is omnipotent and omniscient, how is it loving and just to allow innocent beings to be born into sin and death and have to pay the price for something that happened which is beyond our control?
That's a great analogy except that they expect you to belive that "nothing" was blown up and became a self programming computer.... how could nothing be something and what caused the bang?
God, being existence and existence being ordered and the Communication between Existence and Order is known which is to say that the their is a 3 fold nature to God Existence, Order, and Communication..... God willed other beings into existence, inviting them to participate in this Unity through an act of free will not coerced... us beings used our free will to turn from God therefore opposing the purpose for our existence, or you can say introducing disorder into creation. Disorder rips at Order or Logos (in Greek).... the death and suffering of innocents is the consequence of this disorder... a single mean act or insult can have very negative consequences and these consequences pile up and get out of control. God, in the person of Order then was born into humanity to take upon His shoulders, in a visible and physical way, all of the disorder of the world and died on the cross to show us how much He wants us to know that He loves us.... we catholics carry a crucifix as a reminder of this love...... I know this sounds crazy, crazy, crazy, but the tomb in which He was placed was empty on the 3rd day...... no one in history has been able to prove that Christ didn't exist or that he remained dead...... I know that the language like sin and faith and other terms seem archaic and irrational and in a way I think we were programed to think this way but when I looked at what this all means I began to understand.... I still think how crazy it all sounds but there are crazier things that you can see and that have been studied like bread bleeding and beings analyzed to turn out that the bread turned into living human heart tissue.... look up Eucharistic Miracles.... this will blow your mind
"If God is a loving and just God, one that is omnipotent and omniscient, how is it loving and just to allow innocent beings to be born into sin and death and have to pay the price for something that happened which is beyond our control?"
Someday you might find someone who can answer this for you it a satisfactory manner, but in truth it might never happen for you dear stranger. There is an essential need for imagination to be in play before one can give you a metaphor that would help with this.
I know what I might say to you but I don't think it would make much sense.
It’s great that you believe in something even though you clearly know nothing about that being.
Inner prayer is the highest form of prayer. The Orthodox monks call it prayer of the heart. Silent inner prayer is how we can know God. Be He is in our innermost heart just as the Kingdom of Heaven is within you. Not outside you.
Would you be able to add links to the videos?
🙏🏻
As an Agnostic Young man I could say honestly that i didn't think i had the ability to believe in any particular religion. I thought it was a head game that i wasn't equipped to play. or really wanted to play. my skepticism and openness to everything was deep. but God broke that by making himself real to me in a way i could not deny. For me, It wasn't even so much "faith'. it was more like... "OH! my God!" you are real!." Real like the sun real like air and the earth under my feet.
GOd used his word to , what felt like litterally , remove scales from my eyes. 1st Jesus's words, "youre either for me or against me you're either gathering with me or scattering abroad." Mathew 12:30
Kind of disappointed Eric didn't know that was Bob Dylan not Jimi Hendrix's original. Then, again, I am a musician.
What about people who were deeply committed to their faith and for whatever reason, walked away from it.
Today is the 2,024th Year, 4th Month, and 18th Day.... Since Christ appeared. We count the time before He appeared "Before Christ"
You can't escape the cross of Christ... Time won't even allow it.
Unless you explain how he's born in 3 BC
The entire teaching of the Christ of Jesus is to show that we must walk outside of the False belief in Time and Space...
A preacher/believer of the church or bible looks out into the mortal world he believes God created and then judges it because he is ignorant of his own Truth of Being, thereby denying the Omnipresence of the Infinite, Perfect Spirit of God....(Atheism)
A Priest of God knows the Infinite, Perfect Spirit of God is the Only Presence, the Only Life. Therefore, he knows where everything Mortal and Finite Appears to be, only the Infinite, Perfect, Omnipresent Life of God is.
He knows that when he is not attuned to Divine Consciousness(Eternal Life, Immortality, Truth, God), by default, he is attuned to Mortal Consciousness(karmic death, mortality, form, fear, judgment, evil, etc). He knows that every communication Unfolding from God within is to encourage the Spirit/Soul die to the False Sense of Mortal Self, as the Purpose of the Soul is to take Dominion over the only Adversary, the World Mind and it's thoughts tempting him to believe mortality/form/decay is reality.
He knows Divine Love can not express itself through a Material Consciousness.
He knows he that Realizes he is the Son of God has Eternal Life. He then walks through the world of mortal appearances a Divine Being in who the 5 Senses of Mortality have been Impersonalized, and therefore hold no power over him. His fidelity is to the Immortal Spirit he is, and no longer to the mortal sense of life, not of God.
He knows the RESURRECTION takes place when he drops the belief and reliance upon the False Appearances of the World Mind of Mortality through the Acceptance and Realization of God/Spirit being the only Infinite, Perfect, Omnipresent Being, thereby knowing his true self to be the Infinite, Perfect, Omnipresent Spirit of God.
He knows he Must OVERCOME the Mortal Belief he is not Immortal, Divine Being, and Only then can he be called:
A Priest of God
Pick up the Cross of Immortality and Bear it despite mortal appearances and the temptation to entertain them as reality!
To the Degree in which we can walk through the false world of mortality and not be disturbed by it is the Path of the Realized Christ Within!
Peace Be Unto You
@@shadowpoet4398 all I know is it's widely accepted that Christ died between 32-33 CE
Source: University of Chicago
National Catholic Registrar
BYU Studies
A few say AD 30, regardless the internationally accepted calendar is based around the timeframe of his birth.
Prayer that only goes outward is devoid of service to God. "Auscula". Which means: listen. Every deep religious tradition emphasizes listening and receiving. Prayer is NOT just reaching outward it is a conversation and if you are not listening to the Being that you are conversing with then you are not in a relationship it is a monologue. And God doesn't need to hear a monologue from you. While it is true that meditation without being in the Presence is just going inward if you go inward far enough you will encounter the Divine Spark within you, so it is not a wasted effort. We were designed at the most basid level to seek God and Truth there is a path of praxis - as the Moravians told John Wesley "preach faith until you have it, then preach faith because you have it." Acting out the faith can, if you do so honestly, lead to genuine encounter with the Divine.
Atheist: "I love apples, but hate apple trees."
I actually think non-believers should still pray. It's one of the things that brought me around to believing. God revealed himself to me after years of praying about it.
Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me! Isaiah 6:8
Can you have an interview with Alex??
They’re moving closer
That was a great discussion with Weinstein and Chris. Eric surprised me.
when there is doubt about your beleife in God there isn't going to be room for faith. So my opinion to people is ask the questions that keeps you from believing and seek answers to them. If the answers have you leaning towards not believing in God then so be it. The idea of just believing is a recipe for disappointment and it will lead people further from the faith. So ask questions and look for answers, look for those who are wise and have done the journey to get such answers. This can come from two sides, the atheist and the believer. So look to them both and see what they say.
Is there always alot of smoke in the background
I actually watched this episode a couple days ago and was shocked by his responses sometimes being extremely intelligent has a negative effect on you
It sounds like Bret is saying, “some people are just too dumb to use their ability to reason so it’s best they just believe in something rather than investigate for themselves.”
😢@@CMA418Who else you know that thinks everyone who doesn't agree with them is dumb. What psychological category are they in. Not to mention it the favorite insult of people who are not very bright.
You decide to believe. You choose to have faith.
Chris is right that prayer without belief is useless. Without faith it is impossible to please God. Whoever comes must believe that He (the biblical God) is and that he is a rewarder of those who diligently seek him. We need to share God's word, even if the atheist rejects its authority, it is still powerful. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. God can and does change hearts. Pray for your loved ones.
I don't agree. I like the prayer Jordan Peterson recommends: Show me the things I am doing wrong. You'll always get an answer whether you believe or not.
interesting. while i was a Christian for several years i eventually went the agnostic route and just didn't care. the idea of God always sat in my mind though. wasn't until a few months ago when I read the Bhagavad Gita while on vacation that I realized that I could no longer deny the existence of God. I think maybe many atheists to get a small feeling that perhaps they need to look deeper.
I guess people can mean different things about meditation but it is commonly referred to as calming the mind in order to pay attention to what the noise of the mind drowns out. Prayer on the other hand has focus and intention, rather than calming the noise it is about focusing on noise that is of top importance to you in the moment. This is not to say that prayer can't turn into a meditative form where you ask what does God want you to do without any reference and quiet the mind to listen but I don't think this is what people commonly do with prayer.
The majority of people do not have enough understanding and knowledge to grasp the complicated reality so the comfortable lie is an intellectually easier option.
I do not understand the lack of free will idea that is being promoted by some people. It opens up so many problems in society to think that way. For example, no one could be held accountable for anything.
Nobody can talk today without being honest. Hahaha
Meditation is about looking within yourself because truth of the matter, that's where you find the kingdom of heaven. God is not outside of us, he is within and the way to connect with that is either through prayer and meditation.
Many people pray and wonder why their prayers never get answered. It's because they're not focusing within, they are looking outside of themselves.
Meditation alone can be dangerous because within ourselves we also find a lot lf darkness, that's why prayer needs to be combined with meditation because it's how we access the light within us.
Just because we don’t show interest in other religions doesn’t mean other religions don’t have interest in us
The devil is constantly seeking whom he may devour
The word confident comes from the Latin words con and fide. It literally means “with faith.” So to be confident is to have faith. Everyone has faith in something, but in what, who, where that confidence/faith lies is the question... but what we do in private, and sets our calendar, informs our decisions ultimately reveals all the different "things" we have faith in.
Reading this forum is like reading the forums of Flat Earthers which goes something like.
*"...I set out to prove Flat Earthers wrong but eventually came to realise the Earth is flat..."* 🙄
Push back if I'm wrong, but an idea I just had is maybe he is right that not everyone has the gift of faith. I say that because there's different verses in the bible stating that if you believe in God it's because the Holy Spirit has given us the gift of faith, and belief.
I want to believe. I’ve tried. I just can’t get there
Praying for you
Just a thought, if you like the uncomfortable pauses, why did you talk over them? Silence is often the time in a conversation when both people are digesting the contents of a serious thoughts.
I pray for Eric. No progress so far!
For us catholics faith and belief are defined very differently. Belief is how true you think something is and Faith is your relationship with God. We all have a degree of faith, even atheists.
3:41 You're missing the point if you think it's inward vs outward.
They realized there playing tug of war with their backs to a cliff.
Eric is missing out if he wears the husk of “religion” without the meat of it (belief).
There is a prayer that GOD will hear....the sinners prayer.
Beyond that I truly think GOD will hear and answer any prayer wherein one prays "I don't believe, show me your real, in Jesus name amen" and GOD will reveal Himself.
Do you gotta use that same facial expression on EVERY thumbnail bro?
Yeah, he could vary it a little.
As if we humans know all there is to know! Such hubris. Science can’t even explain consciousness yet.
If you live in a Christian society, there is no escaping the religion but that is how it works with any other religious society and how it would work if we had no religious societies. We are all a product to some degree of our environment.
People forget the mustard seed.
The problem IMO is that religious folks generally think literal interpretation is THE interpretation, and the REQUIRED interpretation. A lot of people who lack faith in the supernatural would still be on board if folks recognized that belief can be allegorical, metaphorical, or literary.
My own view is that religions in general are true allegorically metaphorically and in a literary sense, but not in a a literal or historical one. This is absolutely unacceptable to what seems to be the core group in most religions, which means atheism isn't going away, and this conflict isn't going to end.
It also means that folks ranting about Dawkins hypocrisy or whatever are just scoring points with their base who also don't get it, and are not winning any or many over, because they still don't understand the issue or the other side.
Dawkins has said for a very long time that there's a lot of value in the literature of religion. This new kerfuffle is in part down to framing and a lack of knowledge on his long held position.
I would go to church myself if they didn't insult my intelligence by making impossible and absurd claims, demanding I believe them also, and then also frequently living broken hypocritical lives themselves.
Yes, there's a lot of good moral lessons in scriptures. But we can't just go along with that because there's always someone wearing their sphincter as a hat who's gotta be like: "Jesus didn't give us the option to accept him as moral allegory, only as THE EXCLUSIVE way." To which I reply:
No, the person doing that is you. There's a million ways to engage with a text, and the way you demand doesn't hold up to basic scrutiny, and frequently (although admittedly not always), neither does the speakers lives.
Good and evil predate religion and all of these cultural values you imagine are "religious" are typically from religions that predate Christianity, provided we can even assume they weren't just the values of people who don't like having to deal with drama.
No Atheist is afraid to ask for something better in the world, they're not afraid of things bigger than themselves, they all listen to brighter intellects, they all belong to organizations that make change collectively. The difference is they don't put their faith in things that are shown to harm people.
Yes, all people CAN have faith. But we all don't see the same things as worthy of our faith. And most of us are not willing to accept things on faith when others are being harmed by it. There is a difference between having faith in something that wants to prove itself and putting your faith in something that adamantly refuses tests or questions of it's authenticity. Most people would say putting your faith in things that are afraid of the truth is just foolishness.
The printing of the bible for everyone was a massive driver in literacy. The lineage of popes supporting a millennia of people being kept ignorant of what is written in the bible was not. Movable Type wasn't invented by the church and would have promoted some ideology or another if Christianity never was.
The Christianity in our society today is internet pollution, sexism, and justification of hate, it is the apology of a genocide, it is the justification of child rapes. If you honestly believe that Christianity contributed things that we wouldn't have attained simply because they're necessary, then you still have to understand that those things remain when Christianity is gone. What you need to ask yourself is what of value is Christianity doing for the world today? How are they protecting our future, fostering justice, protecting our liberty and prosperity as a civilization.
interesting
Meditation is not all about looking inward. If you’re looking in, you’re doing it wrong. I would argue that humans are equally fearful of prayer & meditation. Most people can’t do either for more than a few seconds. 😢
For me, God is the only reason for existence that makes sense to me.
For the Existence of what exactly??
The mortal appearance of what we call human life??
The Purpose of the Mortal Appearance of the Human is to Lie about the Infinite, Omnipresent Spirit of God for the Soul to Experience the Return to the Father's House.
This Experience has nothing to do with the Human being whatsoever!
This false belief in a human mortal existence separate and apart from the Infinite Spirit of God that you truly are is what is meant to be OVERCOME.....
We must Remove the False Mortal Image of a mortal ME separate and apart from God....
Every communication Unfolding from God within is to encourage the Spirit/Soul to die to the False Sense of Mortal Self, as the Purpose of the Soul is to take Dominion over our only Adversary, the Mortal World Mind and it's thoughts tempting us to believe mortality/form/decay is our reality....
Where everything mortal appears to be, Only the Infinite, Omnipresent Spirit of God is...
I and the Father are One!!
New Covenant Whole Gospel: How many modern Christians cannot honestly answer the first three questions below?
Who is now the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? Why did God allow the Romans to destroy the Old Covenant temple and the Old Covenant city, about 40 years after His Son fulfilled the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 in blood at Calvary?
What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word. Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. What brings all local churches together into one Body under the blood of Christ? The answer is found below.
Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him.
He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth.
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? What did Paul say about Genesis 12:3 in Galatians 3:8, 3:16? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?
Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart.
Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36)
We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24.
1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
The following verses prove the Holy Spirit is the master teacher for those now in the New Covenant.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Mar 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.
Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Watch the RUclips videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.
I know the Bible is true but when you read 2 Timothy 3 and watch a video like this, it really shakes you up because Jesus is truly coming back
If I speak of myself I bear witness to a lie.....
-Jesus
I Am the Way, the Truth, and the Life....
-Realized Christ of Jesus
Jesus is doing nothing because of his own mortal sense of self is nothing and can do nothing, as it is the Father doing the work once we love God enough to walk outside of mortal beliefs separate and apart from God!
A Priest of God knows the Infinite, Perfect Spirit of God is the Only Presence, the Only Life. Therefore, he knows where everything Mortal and Finite Appears to be, only the Infinite, Perfect, Omnipresent Life of God is.
He knows that when he is not attuned to Divine Consciousness(Eternal Life, Immortality, Truth, God), by default, he is attuned to Mortal Consciousness(karmic death, mortality, form, fear, judgment, evil, etc). He knows that every communication Unfolding from God within is to encourage the Spirit/Soul die to the False Sense of Mortal Self, as the Purpose of the Soul is to take Dominion over the only Adversary, the World Mind and it's thoughts tempting him to believe mortality/form/decay is reality.
He knows Divine Love can not express itself through a Material Consciousness.
He knows he that Realizes he is the Son of God has Eternal Life. He then walks through the world of mortal appearances a Divine Being in who the 5 Senses of Mortality have been Impersonalized, and therefore hold no power over him. His fidelity is to the Immortal Spirit he is, and no longer to the mortal sense of life, not of God.
He knows the RESURRECTION takes place when he drops the belief and reliance upon the False Appearances of the World Mind of Mortality through the Acceptance and Realization of God/Spirit being the only Infinite, Perfect, Omnipresent Being, thereby knowing his true self to be the Infinite, Perfect, Omnipresent Spirit of God.
He knows he Must OVERCOME the Mortal Belief he is not Immortal, Divine Being, and Only then can he be called:
A Priest of God
Pick up the Cross of Immortality and Bear it despite mortal appearances and the temptation to entertain them as reality!
To the Degree in which we can walk through the false world of mortality and not be disturbed by it is the Path of the Realized Christ Within!
Peace Be Unto You
Eric is basically telling Chris, although he probably doesn’t understand this, why we need the New Birth in order to have Faith. We can have belief but Faith is impossible for our fallen state.
You can't understand religion if you don't understand myths
It sort of annoyed me to hear them mock Jordan Peterson for supposedly dancing around whether he believes, especially when they were doing so out of ignorance. He genuinely isn't giving a political answer. When Peterson asked "What do you mean by 'believe'?" I realized that isn't a simple question. He said he tries to act in such a way that demonstrates belief because anyone can say "I believe" and not act the part. It might be better that we don't profess the faith as much as act it.
Atheism simply cannot withstand the harsh Darwinian selection pressures of cultural competition. The Occident has only been atheist since 16 July 1945, and not even 100 years later that mutation has proven itself unadapted to the necessities of survival.
And yet, I'm still an atheist. I cannot will myself to believe... in anything. I guess(?) some people are able to make this alchemy true in their life, but I've never been able to do that. In this I simply cannot be dishonest with myself. Maybe at some point, I find God. I'll be waiting. Until then, I'm not going to lie to myself.
Atheists can recognize we all have a multitude of faith in all sorts of things and people, that is not the problem. While some atheists may refer to religious faith as blind faith, I don't think that is what they really mean and is just an oversimplification. Theists offer their reasons for their faith, for Chrisitians, their bible even tells them to be prepared to give their reasons. For atheists, it is a matter of finding the reasoning to be rather poor, often looking at the same evidence but feeling that theists are eager to jump to a conclusion that doesn't have as much support as they think. This is not necessarily to say atheists are correct and theists are incorrect but rather an individual needs something that makes sense to them in order to develop a sense of trust/faith that you are on the path of truth about something or someone. How many times has something not made sense to us only to finally come across someone or something to make the connection for us. Once we have the connection, then we can finally understand all those people who did not make sense to us before we finally understood. Christianity is one of those messy, complex topics that there is certainly enough there to draw people in but there is also enough there to repel people or expel ex-Christians out the other side. I know you joked about Jordan Peterson and I did have to laugh because it is true, but Peterson is a prime example of Christianity having enough to attract a person like Peterson but at the same time we can see that he doesn't truly have a deep understanding that leaves somewhat of a void stare without it as he presents us with a word salad that usually says nothing.
Christianity has a lot to agree with and even seeing the fruits of certain Christians, a lot to be envious of. The main problem we have with people is not that they can't find many things in the bible to agree upon but rather is it purely the work of man, purely the work of God or both, a mix of man and God? Based on Christians cherry pick, it would appear that it could be a mix of both man and God. I think most atheists also add the tag of agnostics as a humble tag to indicate they don't know but their claim is they lack convincing of the truths theists believe they have. Some atheists are indeed arrogant to claim they know Gods don't exist.
Prayer requires one thing, accepting that you aren't God.
I would be a terrible God. Thank God he is infinitely better than me.
Can’t have a sustainable Christian ethos without Christians
Lose the sound effects buttons.
BTW, if you graphed the human population, it was essentially predictive to be asymptotic around Christ's birth. That means some basic models would essentially say there should go from a small number of humans to infinite humans, exactly when he arrived. Be careful about how he changed the earth. Changed from before him or changed from what it would have been? You oversimplified this because you overlooked this.
It's not just submitting to God when you pray. It's not just hardship when you take up the Cross, your yoke. You are plugging yourself into an intelligence greater than anything else in the the Universe can possibly be. Even the lowest angel is a lot smarter than us. If that doesn't interest someone supposedly highly intelligent, then maybe there is some self deception there.
Hey Ruslan,
Your critique of meditation is only true in a limited context.
Meditation is a mental skill. It's kind of like the ability to do higher math, or a backflip.
In and of itself, it's neutral.
How you apply meditation practice is the key.
In Zen meditation, we can meditate and focus on emptying the mind. Or, we can meditate on a specific koan (parable or paradox), religious truth, broad concept (like compassion), etc.
As a Christian and a martial artist, I use the neurological technology of meditation to try to better align my consciousness with Scripture. Primarily I focus on the Sermon on the Mount, Ecclesiastes, Proverbs, and Psalms. Paul's letters to the Hebrews and the Romans also figure in my practice.
The key point is in the submission to the authority of God.
If you have that part figured out, meditation is an effective tool to improve faith.
There is no equivalency between prayer and meditation. They serve different functions.
Am I the only one expecting a bleep?