Probably no one skipped your “personal bullshit” and listened through. You are super humble and honest! Everyone in this community are inspired by and care about you. Keep making videos!!
Fuck yes! I'm so happy to see another one of these. Thanks, Redgrave! Edit: With a guest appearance from Calvin too? Wow, I guess Christmas has arrived early this year! Edit2: The Bloodlickers in the main game do not cause poison buildup, if I recall correctly.
+Aegon of Astora Bloodlickers in the main game don't cause poison? Well, these ones were drinking from the River of Blood which flows through Old Yharnam. Hmmm, I wonder what the best way to distribute a poison throughout a city population is. :D
+Aegon of Astora about bloodlickers dont they remind of musquitos cause they the same stuff... so it wont be strange for them to sort inflicked diseases off the blood in old yahrnahm and one other thing the bloodlickers at ceinhast will make no sense to inflict poison buildup simply cause of the cold there - no disease could possibly grow effectively in that enviroment and nothing new came we know that becuase in ceinhast the blood licker didnt eat in awhile(their stomaches arent as fat as old hunters bloodlicker) in other words its possible that they did inflict poison buildup and that a long comment
+Aegon of Astora That is strange because the bloodlikers in Cainhurst drank from the massacre that happened in the courtyard where the executioners killed all the nobles and knights. They should be filled with vermin.
***** that event happent long ago... and the bloodlickers didnt have food for a long time maybe the vermin died of hunger if thats the case then it could explain why the blood licker lived after all that while; maybe they consumed the weakened vermin or maybe just their biology allows them to avoid vermin?
What I loved about your videos was that they always reminded me of the simpler days on RUclips when one dude with some good thoughts and a webcam could put out amazing content and be seen. You're so genuine, not having to rely on slick editing and other gimmicks. No dramatic music and spooky voice. No begging for money or subscriptions. A damn breath of fresh air around here now. Even back when you were making these videos they felt that way, because RUclips has been beyond the "dude with a webcam" phase for awhile. I wish there were more content creators like you around. I hope things are going well for you in whatever you are up to these days, thanks for all the great videos.
I know that feel, bro. I am so obsessed with this game that my grades are actually starting to suffer. I have asperger's and it is so easy for me to become obsessed with particular things, to the point most other aspects of my life begin to suffer from neglect. Thank god I have no pets or children right now, or they may starve and that is not a joke.
Man, I'm a french guy (sorry for my english) who is amazed by your work. I usually never comment on youtube or on internet, and I comment on a video made one year ago, so I don't really know what happened next for you, but what you are saying about your work striked me. What you've done have an incredible value, you should definitively put it on a proper editing, a real book, because maybe you think that is it nonsense, or it take too much of your energy, or it affects you a lot, this is gold for a BloodBorne lover, but not only. Bloodborne, like a lot of videogames, will be ne next masterpiece that will define the culture (and I mean, the whole Culture, among cinema, music and books) in the next decades. There will be the same analysis, the same devotion, the same debates that occures in Cinema. Considering Bloodborne has the "2001, a Space Odyssey" of videogame, or maybe "Battleship Potemkin", in the way those movies and Bloodborne operate a revolution inside their Art : the way a story is tell (throught montage for those movies ; thought architecure, observation, objects, space and connexions betweens elements for Bloodborne and Dark Souls), and considering the fact that how minors movies are treated in terme of analysis (some prestigeous universities gave lessons about Harry Potter), your work will be one day a work really really valuable, and not only in videogames, but in the general History of Art, when videogame will be considered to have the same art value as a book. Your Paleblood story really looks like a university study, just like we can do for movies, considering the fact that you analyse not only on what there is inside the game, but also outside : ethymology, litterature (Lovecraft, Berserk), japan culture references (kanji, the story about Mercure), western culture (tarotology, myths)... just like a proper university study can do with all the rest of the cinema production. You juste have 20 years in advance and this work will be a really valuable work for those who want to do the same with Bloodborne or other videogame, because I've never seen an analysis going so deep inside what a game can produce in terme of references. Lovecraft was at his time considered as a minor author made for crazy geeks like us. And now when his art, those fictions he made became as valuable and as important as the Drama, he became a master, and the greatest french author of the decade, Michel Houellbecq, made an analysis of his work, and his analysis is considered as a masterpiece ! What I mean is that your work will follow the destiny of the subject you choose, Bloodborne, and Bloodborne will follow the destiny of the videogame, and videogame will follow the destiny of cinema, as an Art really deep and meaningfull, able to gave an other comprehension of the world, and a new spectrum of emotion. And we need works like your to make that happen, not only in order running after for a legitimity, but to give the need, the ambition to authors to create better games, deeper, more meaningfull, for increasing more and more the level of the videogames. Think about the next decade and not only today, PaleBlood Hunter is like a universitarian analysis, and Internet is not really the ideal media for this kind of work. As you say, you prefere writting, explaining with words and not videos what you want to say. So you admit that there is good medium and bad medium for a work to be understood. So I think it is the same for the plateform of diffusion in which you want to share your work. I mean, it had to be released on internet, because of the nature of the community and the viewers, but it have to go beyond that. You've gone too far in the analysis of this masterpiece, now you are involved in the History of Art, maybe it is hard to endorse because it is lot of work and pressure, but all the good reviews you had about your work should reassure you, the msot difficult part is done, you just have to found an editor. And sorry to say that but you have a kind of duty for the next generation, and obvioulsy, for the work you've made ! It should have the place he deserve, a proper book, that will be valuable (not money you don't care, I talk about knowledge) in many many years, and not the funest destiny of all of the great work made on internet, just vanishing and being forgotten. It has to be physical, in respect for your own work, and for Bloodborne and the future masterpiece it will be considered as. I don't mean that videogame and Bloodborne have to purchase an institutional legitimity as an Art, like Cinema or Music, there is a huge debate about it, whether or not videogame have to follow the destiny of the Cinema, if it will afect the process or creation in a good or bad way. But if it does, your work will be a huge contribution in the History of Art. Please make something of the Paleblood, it took big part of your time and energy, but maybe one day, and because it is your passion, you will see it as the best achievement of your life, and really, some people made less than you made but for a movie, it's just that the masterpiece you worked on has not yet the place he deserve in the History of Art ! Thank you very much for all the time you spend studying this game, I hope somebody can understand my english !
A note on the Chikage's Bloodtinge capabilities: in order to buy the Chikage we need the Cainhurst Badge, and the only way you can get that is by "partaking" of Queen Annalise's blood and becoming a Vileblood ourselves. Game. Set. Match.
I thought about that a day or so after I posted this. My working theory is that the Chikage we get from the Bath Messengers is a "fresh" specimen, that has never been used before. The Chikages we find in the dungeons, however, were probably taken from the corpses of dead Cainhurst Knights who had already imbued them with their own blood. I imagine that the weapons become saturated and "corrupted" by the vile blood of their previous owners.
What a coincidence. We'll sir, I've watched almost all the lore I could find, and I'm not much of a reader but I had not even read a full page of your book before I decided it was a collectors item. I printed it so I could read it in bed. But this item you've created... I felt like I had to enjoy it right. Like a rare collectors item. I bought paper, set up my printer, got a binder with page holders for a cover and back page, created a simple cover and back page, got binder dividers for the chapters, and wasted about 100 papers making sure it was perfectly double sided 1-107 before I could sit in bed and enjoy it. I did the same thing when I got my ps4, didn't play it until my room was clean and my environment was just perfect. I'm by no means a perfectionist but before even delving in I knew it was something special, something I wanted to take the time to respectfully prepare for it. Because I know the lore of this amazing game, and you've written a book about it. I couldn't even make heads or tails of the story without people like you, let alone compile the research, set the story in order and type 107 pages about a game I'm not even sure Im right about my understanding of it. But you sir, did it. And I could have read it on my tablet, but I did it my way, because I'm proud to now own a collectors item. That's what it is. It's no harder to obtain than a RUclips video, but it's unique, it's one of a kind, and it's a testament to you. You didn't have to. But you did. You should feel Damn good about it. And proud. And I thank you because I've heard great things about it. I'll probably own it until I die. And I don't even really know who you are. But I know what IT is. Anyway I'm tired and droned on but what I'm trying to say is I could tell it's something special, and no one else has done it. Your work can speak for itself without having been read yet, to someone like me who's in the know. You can stop worrying about the others making bloodborne content, and their videos views. You're already among their glory bro.
Dude after 7 years I STILL rewatch every bloodborne lore video from jsf redgrave and anything I can find. Im completely and utterly obssessed STILL. UGHHHBH
You should seriously start making lore videos of the games that you like. Your style of presenting the complex lore facts is second to none. I would certainly pay to watch your videos. Any one who has read the Paleblood Hunt Thesis knows what great feats you are capable of achieving. The whole plagiarism thing was very sad and you have my full support. If i ever bump into you in NYC, i would certainly ask you for your autograph :) On a serious note, you should set up a Patreon or PayPal. I know you have previously mentioned against this, but dude you seriously need to get rewarded for all the great work you have done for the Bloodborne community. I am seriously hoping that you would be creating content for Dark Souls 3 as well.
Just a note, I don't know if anyone else has pointed it out, but the "worms" on the scorpions look to me like smaller scorpions. I think irl female scorpions carry their young on their back.
I come back here every now and then and watch these videos again to just go deep into Bloodborne for the millionth time, I hope you’re doing well man and I know u take long breaks but I would really love to see a new Red Grave video in my subscriptions 😅… I’d kill for it ❤
I realize this video is quite old but I've just gotten around to Bloodborne after having finally gotten a ps4 these past holidays. There is one source of poison that I don't believe anyone mentioned here: the Sages in the chalice dungeons that wield a corpse as a weapon, rather than the more common short sword (dagger maybe?), cause rapid poison with their attacks. I don't think this contradicts any of the points in the video as the corpse could easily have some kind of vermin in it, but I wanted to throw this here for posterity at least. Great content, love all the videos Redgrave.
I'm glad you decided to continue making content! :) In regard to the Gravekeeper Scorpions: those little "worms" you pointed out are actually baby scorpions! Scorpions and some kinds of spiders actually tote around their young on their backs. It's kinda creepy: tosea.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/mama-scorpion.jpg
Good for you man, love the honesty, it's rare to see someone being so open publicly about these darkest sides of our being and have complete understanding of what it is you feel instead of subcoinciosly making up excuses, either the pride you feel by being validated by other people and how it becomes an addiction or about the jelousy you feel against someone, but all that stuff is completly normal and no one can be blamed for feeling such things, glad to see you have accepted that part of yourself and moved on, very healthy stuff. (just had a flashback of persona 4 if you are fimiliar with that ps2 game ahah) Moving on to the poison, brilliant stuff, i new those little maggots had to be related to the source of the poison somhow, also I supose you still hand't found laurance in the DLC at the time of making this video, cool that you concluded the bloodletting beast was not him even before meeting him ahah
+Redgrave DotA *spoiler alert * I would find it weird if laurence is represented as a cleric beast on fire on this nightmare and then as the bloodletting beast in the dungeons, I mean I have nothing against people having different forms in different dreamland planes despite of whatever happened to them in the waking world but it feels like a stretch to me. I had a impression this nightmare was created to punish byrgenworth, the healing church and the hunters, so I was thinking this nightmare is your fate after you die because of a curse. So after seeing laurence in there in that form I just concluded he was the cleric beast we killed after all, but I don't know if you have some insight on that to share with us it would be awesome 😀
+Ivan Abibe If you're interested, I talk quite a lot about Laurence in Chapter Nine of The Paleblood Hunt. Writing about Laurence and exploring his motivations and who this person may have been was probably my favorite part about revising my work.
I'm so glad to see this video, and to know that you're making it because YOU want to make it. That you can share some of your personal thoughts, and feelings, with us is something I don't mind at all, and I don't consider it bullshit. Any time you want to vent, I'll listen to you, at least :) I hope you continue to create, and find joy, and satisfaction, from Bloodborne, and writing. I know, from personal experience, that writing can be draining, and exhausting. I would love to see a live event too, and I hope to see more from you here. Thank you so very much. When I hear that you say only female beast patients cause poison, with the exception of buffed/red eye males, and the Bloodstarved Beast. Could it be because of menstrual blood that they cause poison? Then they can poison others (red eyes) with the blood. I don't know, it's a thought, and was the first one that came up. Is the Bloodstarved Beast female? I need to re-listen to your Paleblood Hunt, the new version, later. I say re-listen as I'm not good with reading, so I have Reader read it for me :P
Just to add to the pile of support, concerning the personal 'bullshit', it takes brains and guts to self-analyse and still more to phrase your thoughts cohesively. About spending time and energy on something, English is not my mother tongue, and I'm starting to realise just how much Bloodborne has taught me in that area alone, without me even noticing (forget school). Obsession, it turns out, is indeed a potent source of human strength. Hope you're doing well, you're truly inspirational.
Wow, Redgrave, three years too late, your videos are amazing. I feel kind of guilty having discovered my Love of Souls lore from Vaati. I had no idea he's been taking credit for your theories. This is my second deep dive into bloodborne lore. (I guess I thought there wasn't anymore to know after I'd ran out of Vaati videos (pun intended) ) I'll tell you what, you and Aegon of Astorra have shown me there was sooooo much more flesh on bones to delve into. Nigh unto a whole other corpse. Im relishing your videos. I hope, three years later, that you've found your worth in the waking world. Bless you sir.
It was nice to hear you vent/learn some about who you are. I love that you did this for yourself, you should be proud of all the pieces you placed together. I only recently played through this game (twice) and am blown away by the complexity of understanding it's lore. You've helped me understand it much more, thank you
Awww yeah, it's my boy Redgrave! I saw your post on the Bloodborne subreddit when you published your final revision to your master piece the Paleblood Hunt. Obviously I read through it from top to bottom to see what conclusions you had drawn for The Old Hunters. First off, thank you very much for the work you've put in to fleshing out the story of Bloodborne as we know it. Secondly, when I saw in your post your intention to discontinue putting out content I was very sad. Seeing your video here on your channel was a wonderful surprise! On the topic of what's going on in your life right now and how you've been feeling lately. You are far from alone in that feeling. It's something I think lots of people are guilty of, myself included. Needing recognition from others to feel better about yourself is a fundamental issue that many people face in finding their own personal happiness. It's something I struggle with regularly. But to see that you have risen above that, and that you were able to recognize it puts you in a much better position than most. I've been rambling on myself, but the point of this comment is to let you know that your work is valued and appreciated. Whether or not its for us or for yourself is irrelevant. As long as you are passionate about what you do and it makes YOU happy then that's whats important. I'd be ecstatic to see you continue to release videos like these into the future, but if you find that your life and your own personal happiness is calling you down other avenues of life then I will be all the more happy for you. Thanks for everything. - Cory
It seems likely that The Vilebloods are descendants of the Pthumerians, thus explaining how they share the rapid poison enemies and items with the chalice dungeons.
I could listen to you "ramble" for days on end. Keep being you, man! You have no idea how refreshing it is to see someone as genuine and candid as yourself on RUclips.
It's not self pity man, sometimes you just have to let it out. Took me enlisting in the Army to be able to learn how to express myself cause it can be really tough sometimes
Jrezky Haha great, I thought since it played to the next one while writing it would would automatically post it to the video I was on the time I press Send. Thanks for the clarification.
One little thing nobody seems to have touched on regarding Adella.She's a black church member. Therefore she's WELL aware what forbidden blood is and rather than being jealous of Arianna giving you blood she is suspicious, and as soon as she's certain of what's happening (3 times receiving blood) she's straight in, bam, Arianna murdered just as Adella, and all her black healing church compatriots are trained to do. The black garb is not just a blood Saint thing, in the dlc the former Saint requesting murky mushy brain fluid is a white church member... Adella isn't a silly jealous girl, she's a trained killer!If someone's covered this I appologise! I have watched many many hours of lore theory but must have missed it!Keep being smart =^+^=
Well, that simply gives more information on Arianna being a Cainhurst decendant, and that the Church considered them impure.. even though her blood is "perfectly good" for the PC (player character).. there is a question of how blood becomes poison. When it is given, it heals.. but when it is used against us (Chikage, and many enemies being attacked or throwing it? ..can't remember if Ebrietas poisons). Much like how we (Hunter) can only leave the Hunter's Dream if we accept death.. and how Gehrman can't actually kill us, and he tells us to give up and accept it, so we can leave (and we'll continue to challenge him until he is dead). As if intent affected things, in this case, blood. Maybe the Vermin inside us all..
Janie v.d. Kasteelen that's smart yes! Although when she fights you, it seems she's incapable. When she is in the Jail (or gaol, whatever you wanna call it) she seems incapable of saving herself. (I must admit that she gets out of the jail after you tell her of a safe place, but I see that as a open hole in the story). Anyhow nice theory! Keep it up! :)
True but she IS jealous (envious) of her as well. The bigot says the opposite of what is true so it’s implied that she’s jealous. However u have a point.
absolutely yes man! you shoud do livestream of you playing the game and at the same time Q&A session. or maybe just wonder around and explaining things. i would love to see you playing or just free roam in yharnam.
"Im making this video because i want to, and it feels good." I really do hope you continue to feel this way and make these videos! I get where your coming from and i'd love to see more of these in the future but do what makes you happy and us subscribers will support it. 🙂 take it easy Redgrave!
I totally get what you were going through at the start of this. I've been through the ringer on that level, and to be honest it's an everyday struggle. I fortunately have found that i feel truly happy when I'm creating what I create (music, mostly) alone. When I can do something without anyone there to perform in front of and feel proud of it, I know I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing. On the other hand, I truly appreciate your work. The Paleblood hunt is saved on my Mac and my iPhone. Keep doing it for yourself, and it'll just be a fantastic bonus that I and others find joy in what you do. Rambler, keep on rambling.
Hey, years later and I am really glad you made this. I know things get rough and we get lost in our passions when we hurt, if you need someone to vent to, or speak with, please don't hesitate. I get it. Truly.
Hey bro, I only just found your channel a week or so ago and finished your Paleblood Hunt. I had the worst time with Bloodborne, both gameplay and lore, and I really do appreciate your passion for the lore and contributions to the people who enjoy it. In my humble opinion you created a more enjoyable experience of the game for me, to help understand what I'm playing and to give me the extra surge to power through the game to enjoy it how everyone else did. Your lore is like you were mainlining something I never got, and you did offer something that made the game so much better. I almost never comment on videos but I wanted you to know that I never would have finished this game without you, so thanks.
The fact that you did this, all this (the videos, the reddit posts, the effort in general), for yourself is honestly what makes this content so excellent. I finally got to play bloodborne in the last couple weeks despite fromsoft and Dark Souls being my all time favorites and within two days of beating the game for the 2nd time (when I started reading posts and watching videos) I could immediately tell that you and a small handful of others were the true lore heroes of this story. Anyone who has the slightest effort for the lore of bloodborne can plainly see who's doing the work. I realize this video is old now, and that you probably won't even read this comment but I guess I just wanted to say thanks. Thanks for having passion for something and, even though it's not FOR us, at least allowing us to share in that passion!
Man, that 1st part where you talk about "this video is not for you, it's for ME" - I'm there with you 100%. I fully understand that thought process. I have the need for sharing my thoughts and lore on tons of games and it would probably be but in the end, it's basically for me that I would do it, if it was just to leave a trace of these thoughts (eventual glory and fandom hype nonwithstanding) And that's why I haven't gone really public with this (except doing very irregular blogs on various topics on a freelance basis). Plus... that shameful guilt of being kinda jealous of those guys that can make a living of doing what I also want to do... Well, not sure if I make myself clear but there you go... Guess that's one of the pratfalls of being extremely passionnate about things, to a point where you develop some kind of extreme protectiveness/jealousy..
A very thrilling and amazingly interessting explanation of poison! I never got so deep into that to just think of it in this deep way. Thanks. And the beginning of the video and your talk about the impressions everyone gets with Bloodborne AND the Dark Soul games, is in my opinion the reason why its so stirring and exciting. Every one gets his own expressions, thoughts feelings. And so many people put together this pieces in one or another way. This is also the reason why the "Lore" is so great and so many talk about this. There are also people, like me, which haven´t this deep insight and can´t put together this lil knots and pieces... and then we watch and read and listen to people like you. People who share their thoughts and impressions. People who put hundreds of hours of work just into that to get their story and fascinating discoveries together for themselves and more, to bring it to the people who are interessted in it. You make great work and with a very, very interessting side of view on that. Amazing and great. Please go on with these kind of passion in such kind of things.
Love these videos!! Im a little late to the hoonting but man! your detective work and research is bar none! Even years later, they hold so much weight in blood borne lore that it’s like a literal gold mine of information. Thank you so much for your knowledge and for spreading the passion.
Redgrave, you are a really good guy. As long as you are doing this for yourself, that is all that matter. And people who truly appreciate your work will listen, like me! Keep up the motivation bro!
Watching your videos is like watching a younger version of myself; the passion and the burning need to express oneself through words, the train of thought as you speak, panting as you race it to a conclusion. I am really enjoying the authenticity of your character most particularly. It is respectful to your audience and honest. Here's hoping that you will continue to create videos of this kind, it is really your strong suit. You are an artist and you should really use the drive within you to unravel the secrets of an obscurely presented story for a literary creation of your own. I have no idea if you do that already but it seems to me that you are infected with it. Keep up the great work.
Really glad you sorted your feelings regarding content creation. After reading the revised Paleblood Hunt, I was brought to your channel and I very much enjoyed watching this series. Oddly enough the preface was my favorite part of this installment, it was quite the spectacle witnessing the catharsis after you said your piece. Well done!
Holy shit, that's awesome theory. Milkweed rune turns the player into kin, and the vomit attack is slow poison. Also I find a difference between the sludge purple blood and the crystal clear water that both cause slow poison. This gives vermin more depth, very intresting.
Thanks so much for continually providing this kind of food for thought! The conversation that it sparks in the community is truly fantastic which is one of many reasons why I'll always support you and your content. As for the topic of this video, here are a couple things that I noticed: In the Nightmare Research Hall, the first thing you find at the very bottom is that pool of poison you described. My immediate inference is that it's a pool of blue elixir, given its bluish hue and the vial of elixir you find in the center (and throughout the rest of the cathedral). According to its description, the elixir was developed by the Healing Church and, judging from what we find in the Hall, it was used by Maria and the Church to numb the brains of patients that they attempted to ascend to kin or even Great Ones. Here's my little theory for why they failed, given the existence of the Living Failures: From the images of Madman's Knowledge and Great One's Wisdom, it appears as though "eyes on the inside" and insight are represented (or are literally) those maggot-like phantasms writhing inside our heads. Perhaps these phantasms are a kind of glorified vermin inside all of us? Perhaps what kept the Living Failures from ascending was the fact that the blue elixir used to grant them eyes were teeming with those parasitic maggots that nearly every party in Bloodborne were striving to acquire. Were Willem's and Micolash's missions for internal eyes ultimately against their best interest due to the very nature of those eyes? Some more food for thought... I think. EDIT: Just found/remembered another source of poison, the Pthumerian madmen who slap you with dead bodies. The resulting mist causes rapid poison buildup :O
You're a very smart guy realizing that you must do things because YOU like them to do. I just feel sorry for people with depression and stuff like that, because they can't use their logic but only use emotions. Sometimes, using pure logic on stuff helps much more than relying on feelings about it. I love your videos and you give me insight into a game I adore so much, you inspire me and helps me to think about symbolism in games and stuff like that. Love from Czech!
Yo dude, I know I am kinda 3 years late to this party, but 1. Your content is awesome and I appreciate you choosing to share it! 2. It takes a lot of guts to be honest with your audience, and I'm really glad you are, I know there are a lot of those more popular channels out there stuck in the audience feedback loop to find their self worth that likely envy you, and your ability to break free from that. Sorry your move was hard though it's only a memory for you now! Hope it all worked out for you well! Cheers again for the great content, can't wait to actually watch the rest of the video now! :D
Hey man I just wanted to say I'm not a reader at all, but I easily read both versions of the pale blood hunt. It was incredibly capturing and your look on things really made Bloodborne clear up for me. Just wanted to let you know I appreciate your work.
Well I still think you're cool and intelligent and awesome. You definitely deserve praise. I'm loving this series because you are genuine and passionate about what you are talking about. Keep up the good work!
I hope you don't mind comments in Jan '19 as I'm just playing Bloodborne and watching quality videos like yours. What you said about Vaati's viewership makes me think about why certain videos or stupid memes end up going viral. Sometimes there is no accounting for taste, or randomness! Your content is just as enjoyable and informative as Vaati's or Aegon's, etc. It seems the only difference is Vaati is a professional video producer, while you are a professional writer. Thankfully, I grew up with a love for reading, a gift from my parents, while many people I know did not! And that seems to be a sad trend in today's world, or at least America. There are internet apps like Facebook, Twitter and RUclips, there's television, there's film, and then there's the written word; the holy grail of creativity as none of the others would exist without a quality writer working behind the scenes. Anyways, I just not only wanted to say that I'm an admirer, but that I empathize with and appreciate your honesty and willingness to discuss a rather complex issue. So I wish you success and most importantly, happiness within that success, as I endeavor to attain the same lofty goals!
Hi Redgrave, just wanted to give a thumbs up with some emoji sparkle to your research. I couldn't help but wonder further about the idea of seeing other things inside the blood. The League Hunter's are propped by Valtr, a foreign hunter ostensibly considering his garb, and I find him fascinating for the fact that it is only he who introduces the notion of vermin. A stranger from a strange land sees something others do not--I find this telling. The establishing of oaths, i.e. beliefs in the blood's true nature are created with multiple characters in Bloodborne, each asks the player to confirm their prior knowledge of the blood by taking an oath, it is only then that they can see what the oath keeper sees. A hunter only sees blood dregs if they've confirmed the oath of Vileblood for the Queen of Cainhurst. A hunter only sees vermin only after they give their oath to Valtr. Both are consumed in their preoccupations for what the blood further holds and both provide an additional maddening detail for the Yharnam hunter.
Also, what backs your theory is that a single type of antidote can cure all types of poison found throughout the game It implies that all poisons are the same
You're very frank, Redgrave. I like you just the way you are. I think that enjoying the approval of others is a normal and natural biological part of being a human. It can drive intellectual and social innovation but one must not become enslaved by it, lest it adversely affect one's path in life. Personally, whatever interest I pursue I try to do it for my own enjoyment with the hope that maybe I can inspire others to enjoy and appreciate it, too. Vaati only got where he is because of his presentation so there is no reason for you to be jealous. He's just the Discovery Channel of Souls lore. I study science and I loathe that channel as I can't find any real science there. I'd rather watch you cogitate over game lore in your bedroom for a half hour rather than watch a Vaati video because there's clearly a thinking mind at work here. The live stream sounds cool and hopefully I can catch it if you decide to do it. I'm certainly looking forward to reading the updated Paleblood Hunt when I have the time. Thank you. Good luck to you and I'll see you when I see you.
My friend had a similar experience on youtube a few years ago. Im glad you're doing this for the right reasons now. Thanks for all of your theories they are amazing and eloquently done . bloodborne is such a strange game if you play it blind, funny, you need many eyes to see.
The connection and narrowing down the poison was eye opening, really. Even in Dark Souls, poison is just a game mechanic, but in Bloodborne, I had no idea how big of a factor in the lore is was... well not big, but a very interesting factor in the lore. Wow!
At about 3.30 I absolutely understand you. A few days ago, I finished a history-paper for University. It physically drained me and I felt a bit aged from the stress. Even my hair seemed to suffer from that. Mental stress can really fuck you up.
Bloodlickers appear where much blood has been spilled to drink it, and take on the attributes of the blood they drink, so those in Cainhurst and in the Hunter's Nightmare are different blood groups/race of the same kind of beast
hey Redgrave :) just found your channel I really like it, you are pretty smart I couldn't put half of this together and I consider myself a lore master. I hope whatever your doing now pleases you and makes you happy :D cheers!
As someone who DID watch the start of the video, it's great to see you get your motivation back. I'm a writer myself, and I've always said that if you don't write for yourself, you shouldn't write for anyone. With that said, great hypothesis as always! I'll say it anyway because I like making my approval heard. As for things I've always wondered about, there have been a few things that just don't seem to... Fit with anything else in Bloodborne. For instance, the Chapel Dweller. Who IS this guy? WHAT is this guy? What does he want? Where did he come from? Seriously, this is probably my number one question that I just can't seem to get anywhere with. Did he write the note in the adjoining room? If so, what "lost master" is Rom keeping from him-- from "us"? Who is us? None of it makes sense, and The Paleblood Hunt didn't mention him at all, as I recall. The only thing I could come up with was that he was possibly a Great One in disguise. Your thoughts on this would be MOST appreciated.
Also Rapid Poison only seems to exist Specifically outside of Yarnham. So in the Nightmares, the Chalices and in Cainhurst, where we get the Chikage from.
Fame all too often starts to feel like a burden as opposed to a blessing, I would think. Imagine everywhere you went you always had people coming up to you, wanting to talk to you, get a picture with you, tell you how much they love you etc. It would get really annoying after a while having to plan ahead of time for yourself to enjoy basic privacy and you couldn't easily get annoyed at your fans either because after all they are adoring you. I think we may tend to take our common anonymity for granted because for most of us it's all we'll ever know. I don't think I mind not being in the spotlight though and perhaps you wouldn't either if you experienced what the other side was like. Anyway you have great content RedGrave! You're already famous compared to the average person. You probably wouldn't like getting much more famous.
Excellent work as always, mr redgrave. I've been privately thinking of guys like you, aegon, jerk sans, enb, vaati, etc. as the League of Scholars since the Valtr patch. I think my reasoning is that, like Valtr or Aldia, you guys are so deep into the games from a lore/world/narrative/mythological perspective that I suspect you just sound crazy to any hollow happening along trying to figure out what the Hunter Chief Emblem does or whatever. HOLLOW: So...what're vermin? SCHOLAR: HUNT, EYELESS WHELP! HUNT AND FEED AND CUT AND DRAIN! REVEL IN THE BLOOD AND STENCH OF BURNING ENTRAILS! ONLY THEN WILL YOU BE READY TO FACE THE ELDRITCH TRUTH TOUCHED UPON AT BYRGENWERTH! In cooperATION with your CONFEDERATES!
Wow, I was considering skipping that first bit about yourself, but I'm so glad I missed it because oh my god, I understand. I completely, 100% why you felt like that because I feel EXACTLY like that all the time, expect I might be in some kind of transition period rather then overcoming it. Maybe I'm realizing it now because you we're talk about it, but my entire ego is based off of others approval, and part of me HATES that I'm like that. I use to make videos to make my friends laugh and hope that I'd randomly get popular, but my channel has slowly grown to have 8k subs and I'm even making some decent money off it now. I just, I can't stress how much I feel you man, it's like we're on the same wavelengths or something.
It's been two years I dunno if you will read this now. I just discovered your Paleblood Hunt work and this channel. Let me tell you three things. 1) Your essay is awesome, your thorough lorehunting and keen writing about that beautiful game Bloodborne is actually felt "orgasmic", no joke, it made me feel so good, and I'm so thankful for you having brought this brainchild of yours into the world; 2) In regard to your comment about jealousy/paranoia/plagiarism, let me say, using Vaati as an example, that you shouldn't feel that way, because you know, Vaati's work is not exactly lorehunting (or goes beyond that), hei s a communicator, an "youtuber" and he is damn good at this, beautiful voice, awesome video edit, cool video script (could you, honestly, match his channel's level of quality, youtube-wise? I don't think so and there's nothing wrong with that)... your work helps him, sure, but only in the sense that a treecutter helps a paper box maker, and I say this not to demean your importance, just that your work has two dimensions to it, one that exhausts itself in its lorehunt purpose and essay writing, and another that transforms it into a feeding block to other works; and 3) I hope you are feeling psychologically better now, and I hope, really hope with all my heart, that you get to lorehunt again with Bloodborne 2.
I think there is a...merit, of sorts, in saying that you do things for your own sake. You create content because you want to, and for that very reason, this content is genuine. You making videos for the sake of your viewers is commendable, yes, but by definition, it implies that you are creating it for a reason external from yourself. In a way, it is less genuine. Redgrave, I'm a recent subscriber of yours, and I didn't press that red button for you. I did it for myself. Because I think your videos is valuable for me in varying degrees. Speaking purely from a viewer's perspective, I can arrogantly say that my intentions are genuine because of that. And I think it's a beautiful thing to have. But, well, it's not my place to tell you to do anything. You do what you want to do. Because I really want the relation between you and your viewers to remain as something based off of honesty. I think I'm not alone in saying that we believe in whatever you do.
Hey man! Thanks for sharing your thoughts and being so candid. Of course, I love your analysis, but let me speak to your more intimate discussion for a moment. I've gone through the same thing. I'm working on a big lore project myself ATM for Dark Souls and constantly I think, "why should I bother? Other, smarter people have done so much work already. Who will give a fuck? Why even try?" And yet I keep coming back to it. Why? Well, A. I just love the series so much, B. I want to contribute something to the community that has inspired me over the years, and C. Like you, knowing that a few people find my work meaningful, well, it means the world. I'll have you know that you're one of my big inspirations for doing this. Don't ever think that your work didn't have a positive impact - it does. I'm proof. ❤
Never sad till now bro but book is great and I hope you will write in your life fantastic prose. Anyway you don't know I think how good you can tell stories. Bloodborne is masterpiece best game that he made in his life. Cheers man
Could we talk a little about Beast's Embrace, and why Laurence of all people has it? The Church was clearly against embracing beasthood. That's why Izzy is a heretic. And why the clerics of the Church turn into such large and twisted beasts when they finally succumb. Also, speaking of Izzy, with the introduction of the Harrowed Hood in the DLC, is that further "proof" that the Suspicious Beggar is Izzy? I mean, harrowed...heretic of the church...hunter... Thanks, the video was awesome!
+Redgrave DotA Ah, I guess I should have read your updated version before asking. I'll definitely get to it soon. Here's a question a little more in line with your series title: what is up with the antlers/horns/tusks of Cleric Beasts? The Cleric Beast has them. Vicar Amelia has them. Laurence has them. And the Beast-Possessed Soul and Loran Clerics also have them. And three out of five of those wield fire, which beasts typically fear/are weak to... I imagine this is all connected to how the clerics resist beasthood through sheer willpower alone. Or maybe this is somehow related to the magic they all (minus the original Cleric Beast) wield?
Probably no one skipped your “personal bullshit” and listened through. You are super humble and honest! Everyone in this community are inspired by and care about you. Keep making videos!!
Redgrave is Willhem and vati is laurence
TRUTH
Lmfao
I am so late to this comment but this is pure wisdom haha
This makes waaay too much sense. O_O
This comment is truth
Fuck yes! I'm so happy to see another one of these. Thanks, Redgrave!
Edit: With a guest appearance from Calvin too? Wow, I guess Christmas has arrived early this year!
Edit2: The Bloodlickers in the main game do not cause poison buildup, if I recall correctly.
+Aegon of Astora Bloodlickers in the main game don't cause poison? Well, these ones were drinking from the River of Blood which flows through Old Yharnam. Hmmm, I wonder what the best way to distribute a poison throughout a city population is. :D
+Redgrave DotA That's the kind of insight we love you for, redgrave
+Aegon of Astora
about bloodlickers dont they remind of musquitos cause they the same stuff...
so it wont be strange for them to sort inflicked diseases off the blood in old yahrnahm
and one other thing the bloodlickers at ceinhast will make no sense to inflict poison buildup simply cause of the cold there - no disease could possibly grow effectively in that enviroment and nothing new came we know that becuase in ceinhast the blood licker didnt eat in awhile(their stomaches arent as fat as old hunters bloodlicker) in other words its possible that they did inflict poison buildup and that a long comment
+Aegon of Astora That is strange because the bloodlikers in Cainhurst drank from the massacre that happened in the courtyard where the executioners killed all the nobles and knights. They should be filled with vermin.
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that event happent long ago...
and the bloodlickers didnt have food for a long time maybe the vermin died of hunger if thats the case then it could explain why the blood licker lived after all that while; maybe they consumed the weakened vermin or maybe just their biology allows them to avoid vermin?
What I loved about your videos was that they always reminded me of the simpler days on RUclips when one dude with some good thoughts and a webcam could put out amazing content and be seen. You're so genuine, not having to rely on slick editing and other gimmicks. No dramatic music and spooky voice. No begging for money or subscriptions. A damn breath of fresh air around here now. Even back when you were making these videos they felt that way, because RUclips has been beyond the "dude with a webcam" phase for awhile. I wish there were more content creators like you around. I hope things are going well for you in whatever you are up to these days, thanks for all the great videos.
I know that feel, bro. I am so obsessed with this game that my grades are actually starting to suffer. I have asperger's and it is so easy for me to become obsessed with particular things, to the point most other aspects of my life begin to suffer from neglect. Thank god I have no pets or children right now, or they may starve and that is not a joke.
Jesus Christ dude :/
fuck..... living the same thing right now lmaooo
Some are still watching. Thanks for everything.
Man, I'm a french guy (sorry for my english) who is amazed by your work. I usually never comment on youtube or on internet, and I comment on a video made one year ago, so I don't really know what happened next for you, but what you are saying about your work striked me. What you've done have an incredible value, you should definitively put it on a proper editing, a real book, because maybe you think that is it nonsense, or it take too much of your energy, or it affects you a lot, this is gold for a BloodBorne lover, but not only.
Bloodborne, like a lot of videogames, will be ne next masterpiece that will define the culture (and I mean, the whole Culture, among cinema, music and books) in the next decades. There will be the same analysis, the same devotion, the same debates that occures in Cinema. Considering Bloodborne has the "2001, a Space Odyssey" of videogame, or maybe "Battleship Potemkin", in the way those movies and Bloodborne operate a revolution inside their Art : the way a story is tell (throught montage for those movies ; thought architecure, observation, objects, space and connexions betweens elements for Bloodborne and Dark Souls), and considering the fact that how minors movies are treated in terme of analysis (some prestigeous universities gave lessons about Harry Potter), your work will be one day a work really really valuable, and not only in videogames, but in the general History of Art, when videogame will be considered to have the same art value as a book.
Your Paleblood story really looks like a university study, just like we can do for movies, considering the fact that you analyse not only on what there is inside the game, but also outside : ethymology, litterature (Lovecraft, Berserk), japan culture references (kanji, the story about Mercure), western culture (tarotology, myths)... just like a proper university study can do with all the rest of the cinema production. You juste have 20 years in advance and this work will be a really valuable work for those who want to do the same with Bloodborne or other videogame, because I've never seen an analysis going so deep inside what a game can produce in terme of references.
Lovecraft was at his time considered as a minor author made for crazy geeks like us. And now when his art, those fictions he made became as valuable and as important as the Drama, he became a master, and the greatest french author of the decade, Michel Houellbecq, made an analysis of his work, and his analysis is considered as a masterpiece ! What I mean is that your work will follow the destiny of the subject you choose, Bloodborne, and Bloodborne will follow the destiny of the videogame, and videogame will follow the destiny of cinema, as an Art really deep and meaningfull, able to gave an other comprehension of the world, and a new spectrum of emotion. And we need works like your to make that happen, not only in order running after for a legitimity, but to give the need, the ambition to authors to create better games, deeper, more meaningfull, for increasing more and more the level of the videogames.
Think about the next decade and not only today, PaleBlood Hunter is like a universitarian analysis, and Internet is not really the ideal media for this kind of work. As you say, you prefere writting, explaining with words and not videos what you want to say. So you admit that there is good medium and bad medium for a work to be understood. So I think it is the same for the plateform of diffusion in which you want to share your work.
I mean, it had to be released on internet, because of the nature of the community and the viewers, but it have to go beyond that. You've gone too far in the analysis of this masterpiece, now you are involved in the History of Art, maybe it is hard to endorse because it is lot of work and pressure, but all the good reviews you had about your work should reassure you, the msot difficult part is done, you just have to found an editor. And sorry to say that but you have a kind of duty for the next generation, and obvioulsy, for the work you've made ! It should have the place he deserve, a proper book, that will be valuable (not money you don't care, I talk about knowledge) in many many years, and not the funest destiny of all of the great work made on internet, just vanishing and being forgotten. It has to be physical, in respect for your own work, and for Bloodborne and the future masterpiece it will be considered as.
I don't mean that videogame and Bloodborne have to purchase an institutional legitimity as an Art, like Cinema or Music, there is a huge debate about it, whether or not videogame have to follow the destiny of the Cinema, if it will afect the process or creation in a good or bad way. But if it does, your work will be a huge contribution in the History of Art. Please make something of the Paleblood, it took big part of your time and energy, but maybe one day, and because it is your passion, you will see it as the best achievement of your life, and really, some people made less than you made but for a movie, it's just that the masterpiece you worked on has not yet the place he deserve in the History of Art !
Thank you very much for all the time you spend studying this game, I hope somebody can understand my english !
"Against the World, Against Life"?
cortine Elie well put sir :)
"Madaras" means "of birds" in Hungarian. It is also a town in Transylvania known for its *MERCURY* mines
I know I'm late but the team that worked on bb actually (if I remember correctly) traveled to that zone of europe to gain inspiration
@@GMatt193thats definitely you just talking out of your butt
A note on the Chikage's Bloodtinge capabilities: in order to buy the Chikage we need the Cainhurst Badge, and the only way you can get that is by "partaking" of Queen Annalise's blood and becoming a Vileblood ourselves.
Game. Set. Match.
+Centimeterworm at the same time I can go into the chalice dungeons and get an uncanny or Lost Chikage without ever becoming a Vileblood.
I thought about that a day or so after I posted this. My working theory is that the Chikage we get from the Bath Messengers is a "fresh" specimen, that has never been used before. The Chikages we find in the dungeons, however, were probably taken from the corpses of dead Cainhurst Knights who had already imbued them with their own blood. I imagine that the weapons become saturated and "corrupted" by the vile blood of their previous owners.
@@ReyndommVideos I really like that idea of left behind weapons cause I never thought of it that way and I really enjoy that interpretation of it
Dude, I just found your channel 2 days ago, and I love every single bloodborne related video! Your content is so insightful it might give me frenzy!!!
What a coincidence. We'll sir, I've watched almost all the lore I could find, and I'm not much of a reader but I had not even read a full page of your book before I decided it was a collectors item. I printed it so I could read it in bed. But this item you've created... I felt like I had to enjoy it right. Like a rare collectors item. I bought paper, set up my printer, got a binder with page holders for a cover and back page, created a simple cover and back page, got binder dividers for the chapters, and wasted about 100 papers making sure it was perfectly double sided 1-107 before I could sit in bed and enjoy it. I did the same thing when I got my ps4, didn't play it until my room was clean and my environment was just perfect. I'm by no means a perfectionist but before even delving in I knew it was something special, something I wanted to take the time to respectfully prepare for it. Because I know the lore of this amazing game, and you've written a book about it. I couldn't even make heads or tails of the story without people like you, let alone compile the research, set the story in order and type 107 pages about a game I'm not even sure Im right about my understanding of it. But you sir, did it. And I could have read it on my tablet, but I did it my way, because I'm proud to now own a collectors item. That's what it is. It's no harder to obtain than a RUclips video, but it's unique, it's one of a kind, and it's a testament to you. You didn't have to. But you did. You should feel Damn good about it. And proud. And I thank you because I've heard great things about it. I'll probably own it until I die. And I don't even really know who you are. But I know what IT is. Anyway I'm tired and droned on but what I'm trying to say is I could tell it's something special, and no one else has done it. Your work can speak for itself without having been read yet, to someone like me who's in the know. You can stop worrying about the others making bloodborne content, and their videos views. You're already among their glory bro.
Dude after 7 years I STILL rewatch every bloodborne lore video from jsf redgrave and anything I can find. Im completely and utterly obssessed STILL. UGHHHBH
You should seriously start making lore videos of the games that you like. Your style of presenting the complex lore facts is second to none. I would certainly pay to watch your videos. Any one who has read the Paleblood Hunt Thesis knows what great feats you are capable of achieving. The whole plagiarism thing was very sad and you have my full support. If i ever bump into you in NYC, i would certainly ask you for your autograph :)
On a serious note, you should set up a Patreon or PayPal. I know you have previously mentioned against this, but dude you seriously need to get rewarded for all the great work you have done for the Bloodborne community. I am seriously hoping that you would be creating content for Dark Souls 3 as well.
The Parasite of Kos has a poison spit attack of you lunge back and click R1!
8 years later I’m still here!
Just a note, I don't know if anyone else has pointed it out, but the "worms" on the scorpions look to me like smaller scorpions. I think irl female scorpions carry their young on their back.
Karl Gilbert yup, I caught this too. Other arachnids, like wolf spiders, also do so.
I come back here every now and then and watch these videos again to just go deep into Bloodborne for the millionth time, I hope you’re doing well man and I know u take long breaks but I would really love to see a new Red Grave video in my subscriptions 😅… I’d kill for it ❤
I realize this video is quite old but I've just gotten around to Bloodborne after having finally gotten a ps4 these past holidays. There is one source of poison that I don't believe anyone mentioned here: the Sages in the chalice dungeons that wield a corpse as a weapon, rather than the more common short sword (dagger maybe?), cause rapid poison with their attacks. I don't think this contradicts any of the points in the video as the corpse could easily have some kind of vermin in it, but I wanted to throw this here for posterity at least. Great content, love all the videos Redgrave.
I'm glad you decided to continue making content! :)
In regard to the Gravekeeper Scorpions: those little "worms" you pointed out are actually baby scorpions! Scorpions and some kinds of spiders actually tote around their young on their backs. It's kinda creepy:
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it's april 2019 and I just discovered this amazing game with an even more amazing story! :) thanks for all your efforts!
Hey Redgrave, just want to thank you again for your work, after all these years it’s still fascinating, I hope you’re doing well!!
I love the honesty and realism of the beginning of the video, admitting looking for approval, possible envy....
Good for you man, love the honesty, it's rare to see someone being so open publicly about these darkest sides of our being and have complete understanding of what it is you feel instead of subcoinciosly making up excuses, either the pride you feel by being validated by other people and how it becomes an addiction or about the jelousy you feel against someone, but all that stuff is completly normal and no one can be blamed for feeling such things, glad to see you have accepted that part of yourself and moved on, very healthy stuff. (just had a flashback of persona 4 if you are fimiliar with that ps2 game ahah)
Moving on to the poison, brilliant stuff, i new those little maggots had to be related to the source of the poison somhow, also I supose you still hand't found laurance in the DLC at the time of making this video, cool that you concluded the bloodletting beast was not him even before meeting him ahah
+Ivan Abibe Oh I had found Laurence. But it still doesn't eliminate the possibility of him also being the Bloodletting Beast.
+Redgrave DotA *spoiler alert *
I would find it weird if laurence is represented as a cleric beast on fire on this nightmare and then as the bloodletting beast in the dungeons, I mean I have nothing against people having different forms in different dreamland planes despite of whatever happened to them in the waking world but it feels like a stretch to me.
I had a impression this nightmare was created to punish byrgenworth, the healing church and the hunters, so I was thinking this nightmare is your fate after you die because of a curse. So after seeing laurence in there in that form I just concluded he was the cleric beast we killed after all, but I don't know if you have some insight on that to share with us it would be awesome 😀
+Ivan Abibe
If you're interested, I talk quite a lot about Laurence in Chapter Nine of The Paleblood Hunt. Writing about Laurence and exploring his motivations and who this person may have been was probably my favorite part about revising my work.
oh cool i will check it out then, thanks :)
I'm so glad to see this video, and to know that you're making it because YOU want to make it. That you can share some of your personal thoughts, and feelings, with us is something I don't mind at all, and I don't consider it bullshit. Any time you want to vent, I'll listen to you, at least :) I hope you continue to create, and find joy, and satisfaction, from Bloodborne, and writing. I know, from personal experience, that writing can be draining, and exhausting. I would love to see a live event too, and I hope to see more from you here. Thank you so very much.
When I hear that you say only female beast patients cause poison, with the exception of buffed/red eye males, and the Bloodstarved Beast. Could it be because of menstrual blood that they cause poison? Then they can poison others (red eyes) with the blood. I don't know, it's a thought, and was the first one that came up. Is the Bloodstarved Beast female? I need to re-listen to your Paleblood Hunt, the new version, later. I say re-listen as I'm not good with reading, so I have Reader read it for me :P
+Aaron T Ciavarra
Well said, Aaron! Thank you for saving me from having to edit my comment a third time to express this same sentiment :)
Your fucking awesome Redgrave.
Keep your passions close to your heart. May the good blood guide your way fellow hunter.
Just to add to the pile of support, concerning the personal 'bullshit', it takes brains and guts to self-analyse and still more to phrase your thoughts cohesively.
About spending time and energy on something, English is not my mother tongue, and I'm starting to realise just how much Bloodborne has taught me in that area alone, without me even noticing (forget school). Obsession, it turns out, is indeed a potent source of human strength.
Hope you're doing well, you're truly inspirational.
Wow, Redgrave, three years too late, your videos are amazing. I feel kind of guilty having discovered my Love of Souls lore from Vaati. I had no idea he's been taking credit for your theories. This is my second deep dive into bloodborne lore. (I guess I thought there wasn't anymore to know after I'd ran out of Vaati videos (pun intended) ) I'll tell you what, you and Aegon of Astorra have shown me there was sooooo much more flesh on bones to delve into. Nigh unto a whole other corpse. Im relishing your videos. I hope, three years later, that you've found your worth in the waking world. Bless you sir.
It was nice to hear you vent/learn some about who you are. I love that you did this for yourself, you should be proud of all the pieces you placed together. I only recently played through this game (twice) and am blown away by the complexity of understanding it's lore. You've helped me understand it much more, thank you
The Kos Parasite's light backstep attack causes poison, too.
Awww yeah, it's my boy Redgrave! I saw your post on the Bloodborne subreddit when you published your final revision to your master piece the Paleblood Hunt. Obviously I read through it from top to bottom to see what conclusions you had drawn for The Old Hunters. First off, thank you very much for the work you've put in to fleshing out the story of Bloodborne as we know it. Secondly, when I saw in your post your intention to discontinue putting out content I was very sad. Seeing your video here on your channel was a wonderful surprise!
On the topic of what's going on in your life right now and how you've been feeling lately. You are far from alone in that feeling. It's something I think lots of people are guilty of, myself included. Needing recognition from others to feel better about yourself is a fundamental issue that many people face in finding their own personal happiness. It's something I struggle with regularly. But to see that you have risen above that, and that you were able to recognize it puts you in a much better position than most.
I've been rambling on myself, but the point of this comment is to let you know that your work is valued and appreciated. Whether or not its for us or for yourself is irrelevant. As long as you are passionate about what you do and it makes YOU happy then that's whats important. I'd be ecstatic to see you continue to release videos like these into the future, but if you find that your life and your own personal happiness is calling you down other avenues of life then I will be all the more happy for you.
Thanks for everything.
- Cory
It seems likely that The Vilebloods are descendants of the Pthumerians, thus explaining how they share the rapid poison enemies and items with the chalice dungeons.
I could listen to you "ramble" for days on end. Keep being you, man! You have no idea how refreshing it is to see someone as genuine and candid as yourself on RUclips.
@18:30 "You guys have eyes." Inadvertent insight joke?
It's not self pity man, sometimes you just have to let it out. Took me enlisting in the Army to be able to learn how to express myself cause it can be really tough sometimes
Shit, this was supposed to go in the poison vid, damn playlist fucked it up lol. Anyways, you know what I'm talking about
Fox Die I know this is old but it is in the poison vid, just so you know.
Jrezky Haha great, I thought since it played to the next one while writing it would would automatically post it to the video I was on the time I press Send. Thanks for the clarification.
One little thing nobody seems to have touched on regarding Adella.She's a black church member. Therefore she's WELL aware what forbidden blood is and rather than being jealous of Arianna giving you blood she is suspicious, and as soon as she's certain of what's happening (3 times receiving blood) she's straight in, bam, Arianna murdered just as Adella, and all her black healing church compatriots are trained to do. The black garb is not just a blood Saint thing, in the dlc the former Saint requesting murky mushy brain fluid is a white church member... Adella isn't a silly jealous girl, she's a trained killer!If someone's covered this I appologise! I have watched many many hours of lore theory but must have missed it!Keep being smart =^+^=
Well, that simply gives more information on Arianna being a Cainhurst decendant, and that the Church considered them impure.. even though her blood is "perfectly good" for the PC (player character).. there is a question of how blood becomes poison. When it is given, it heals.. but when it is used against us (Chikage, and many enemies being attacked or throwing it? ..can't remember if Ebrietas poisons).
Much like how we (Hunter) can only leave the Hunter's Dream if we accept death.. and how Gehrman can't actually kill us, and he tells us to give up and accept it, so we can leave (and we'll continue to challenge him until he is dead). As if intent affected things, in this case, blood. Maybe the Vermin inside us all..
Adella killing Arianna:
www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/5fm49m/all_of_the_chapel_dwellers_dialogue_is_very/
THAT... makes a lot more sense than just, "lol she jelly"
Janie v.d. Kasteelen that's smart yes! Although when she fights you, it seems she's incapable. When she is in the Jail (or gaol, whatever you wanna call it) she seems incapable of saving herself. (I must admit that she gets out of the jail after you tell her of a safe place, but I see that as a open hole in the story). Anyhow nice theory! Keep it up! :)
True but she IS jealous (envious) of her as well. The bigot says the opposite of what is true so it’s implied that she’s jealous. However u have a point.
You have lined my brain with eyes; reading your thesis dragged me back into Bloodborne to re-examine the world
absolutely yes man! you shoud do livestream of you playing the game and at the same time Q&A session. or maybe just wonder around and explaining things. i would love to see you playing or just free roam in yharnam.
youre so handsome and the way you talk about lore is super talented, honestly i could lisent to you talk about anything
sat throught the whole video and man you reallyy is the legend of lore for bloodborne thank you so much for all these videos
Love you Redgrave! Unconditionally
Praise the Lore
to think that in 2019 Sekiro retroactively confirmed the ongoing theme of vermin and red eyes...
"Im making this video because i want to, and it feels good." I really do hope you continue to feel this way and make these videos! I get where your coming from and i'd love to see more of these in the future but do what makes you happy and us subscribers will support it. 🙂 take it easy Redgrave!
I totally get what you were going through at the start of this. I've been through the ringer on that level, and to be honest it's an everyday struggle. I fortunately have found that i feel truly happy when I'm creating what I create (music, mostly) alone. When I can do something without anyone there to perform in front of and feel proud of it, I know I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing.
On the other hand, I truly appreciate your work. The Paleblood hunt is saved on my Mac and my iPhone. Keep doing it for yourself, and it'll just be a fantastic bonus that I and others find joy in what you do.
Rambler, keep on rambling.
Hey, years later and I am really glad you made this. I know things get rough and we get lost in our passions when we hurt, if you need someone to vent to, or speak with, please don't hesitate. I get it. Truly.
I understand the mania and pain that goes into this
Hey bro, I only just found your channel a week or so ago and finished your Paleblood Hunt. I had the worst time with Bloodborne, both gameplay and lore, and I really do appreciate your passion for the lore and contributions to the people who enjoy it. In my humble opinion you created a more enjoyable experience of the game for me, to help understand what I'm playing and to give me the extra surge to power through the game to enjoy it how everyone else did. Your lore is like you were mainlining something I never got, and you did offer something that made the game so much better. I almost never comment on videos but I wanted you to know that I never would have finished this game without you, so thanks.
The fact that you did this, all this (the videos, the reddit posts, the effort in general), for yourself is honestly what makes this content so excellent.
I finally got to play bloodborne in the last couple weeks despite fromsoft and Dark Souls being my all time favorites and within two days of beating the game for the 2nd time (when I started reading posts and watching videos) I could immediately tell that you and a small handful of others were the true lore heroes of this story. Anyone who has the slightest effort for the lore of bloodborne can plainly see who's doing the work.
I realize this video is old now, and that you probably won't even read this comment but I guess I just wanted to say thanks. Thanks for having passion for something and, even though it's not FOR us, at least allowing us to share in that passion!
Man, that 1st part where you talk about "this video is not for you, it's for ME" - I'm there with you 100%. I fully understand that thought process. I have the need for sharing my thoughts and lore on tons of games and it would probably be but in the end, it's basically for me that I would do it, if it was just to leave a trace of these thoughts (eventual glory and fandom hype nonwithstanding) And that's why I haven't gone really public with this (except doing very irregular blogs on various topics on a freelance basis). Plus... that shameful guilt of being kinda jealous of those guys that can make a living of doing what I also want to do... Well, not sure if I make myself clear but there you go... Guess that's one of the pratfalls of being extremely passionnate about things, to a point where you develop some kind of extreme protectiveness/jealousy..
Years late to this party. I came for the lore and return to see my sweet baby boy Calvin
A very thrilling and amazingly interessting explanation of poison! I never got so deep into that to just think of it in this deep way. Thanks.
And the beginning of the video and your talk about the impressions everyone gets with Bloodborne AND the Dark Soul games, is in my opinion the reason why its so stirring and exciting. Every one gets his own expressions, thoughts feelings. And so many people put together this pieces in one or another way. This is also the reason why the "Lore" is so great and so many talk about this. There are also people, like me, which haven´t this deep insight and can´t put together this lil knots and pieces... and then we watch and read and listen to people like you. People who share their thoughts and impressions. People who put hundreds of hours of work just into that to get their story and fascinating discoveries together for themselves and more, to bring it to the people who are interessted in it. You make great work and with a very, very interessting side of view on that. Amazing and great. Please go on with these kind of passion in such kind of things.
Love these videos!! Im a little late to the hoonting but man! your detective work and research is bar none! Even years later, they hold so much weight in blood borne lore that it’s like a literal gold mine of information. Thank you so much for your knowledge and for spreading the passion.
Thank you RG; I know it must not be easy for you, but you have done so much for the community. Glad to see you back.
"you guys have eyes"
Master Willem now wants to know all our locations
fuck yea man, cup of coffee on my day off with a redgrave video! made my morning bro
Redgrave, you are a really good guy. As long as you are doing this for yourself, that is all that matter. And people who truly appreciate your work will listen, like me! Keep up the motivation bro!
Watching your videos is like watching a younger version of myself; the passion and the burning need to express oneself through words, the train of thought as you speak, panting as you race it to a conclusion. I am really enjoying the authenticity of your character most particularly. It is respectful to your audience and honest. Here's hoping that you will continue to create videos of this kind, it is really your strong suit. You are an artist and you should really use the drive within you to unravel the secrets of an obscurely presented story for a literary creation of your own. I have no idea if you do that already but it seems to me that you are infected with it. Keep up the great work.
Really glad you sorted your feelings regarding content creation. After reading the revised Paleblood Hunt, I was brought to your channel and I very much enjoyed watching this series. Oddly enough the preface was my favorite part of this installment, it was quite the spectacle witnessing the catharsis after you said your piece. Well done!
I'm glad that you did this for yourself. There's no worse reason to give up than doubting yourself
Holy shit, that's awesome theory.
Milkweed rune turns the player into kin, and the vomit attack is slow poison. Also I find a difference between the sludge purple blood and the crystal clear water that both cause slow poison.
This gives vermin more depth, very intresting.
My 300 subscribers 10,000 nearly now well done Redgrave Awesome lore bro
Thanks so much for continually providing this kind of food for thought! The conversation that it sparks in the community is truly fantastic which is one of many reasons why I'll always support you and your content. As for the topic of this video, here are a couple things that I noticed: In the Nightmare Research Hall, the first thing you find at the very bottom is that pool of poison you described. My immediate inference is that it's a pool of blue elixir, given its bluish hue and the vial of elixir you find in the center (and throughout the rest of the cathedral). According to its description, the elixir was developed by the Healing Church and, judging from what we find in the Hall, it was used by Maria and the Church to numb the brains of patients that they attempted to ascend to kin or even Great Ones.
Here's my little theory for why they failed, given the existence of the Living Failures: From the images of Madman's Knowledge and Great One's Wisdom, it appears as though "eyes on the inside" and insight are represented (or are literally) those maggot-like phantasms writhing inside our heads. Perhaps these phantasms are a kind of glorified vermin inside all of us? Perhaps what kept the Living Failures from ascending was the fact that the blue elixir used to grant them eyes were teeming with those parasitic maggots that nearly every party in Bloodborne were striving to acquire. Were Willem's and Micolash's missions for internal eyes ultimately against their best interest due to the very nature of those eyes? Some more food for thought... I think.
EDIT: Just found/remembered another source of poison, the Pthumerian madmen who slap you with dead bodies. The resulting mist causes rapid poison buildup :O
13:25 to skip the personal bullshit, but I dont recommend doing so.
Well as long as you keep making these videos I'll keep watching them! Absolutely love these :)
You're a very smart guy realizing that you must do things because YOU like them to do. I just feel sorry for people with depression and stuff like that, because they can't use their logic but only use emotions. Sometimes, using pure logic on stuff helps much more than relying on feelings about it. I love your videos and you give me insight into a game I adore so much, you inspire me and helps me to think about symbolism in games and stuff like that. Love from Czech!
That's not what depression is at all. If anything, a depressed person uses their emotions less than a normal person does
Fiddle My Diddle Yeah, at the end they don't use emotions, as a way of protection. But it all starts being overemotional.
Yo dude, I know I am kinda 3 years late to this party, but 1. Your content is awesome and I appreciate you choosing to share it! 2. It takes a lot of guts to be honest with your audience, and I'm really glad you are, I know there are a lot of those more popular channels out there stuck in the audience feedback loop to find their self worth that likely envy you, and your ability to break free from that.
Sorry your move was hard though it's only a memory for you now! Hope it all worked out for you well!
Cheers again for the great content, can't wait to actually watch the rest of the video now! :D
Hey man I just wanted to say I'm not a reader at all, but I easily read both versions of the pale blood hunt. It was incredibly capturing and your look on things really made Bloodborne clear up for me. Just wanted to let you know I appreciate your work.
Well I still think you're cool and intelligent and awesome. You definitely deserve praise. I'm loving this series because you are genuine and passionate about what you are talking about. Keep up the good work!
I hope you don't mind comments in Jan '19 as I'm just playing Bloodborne and watching quality videos like yours.
What you said about Vaati's viewership makes me think about why certain videos or stupid memes end up going viral. Sometimes there is no accounting for taste, or randomness!
Your content is just as enjoyable and informative as Vaati's or Aegon's, etc. It seems the only difference is Vaati is a professional video producer, while you are a professional writer.
Thankfully, I grew up with a love for reading, a gift from my parents, while many people I know did not! And that seems to be a sad trend in today's world, or at least America.
There are internet apps like Facebook, Twitter and RUclips, there's television, there's film, and then there's the written word; the holy grail of creativity as none of the others would exist without a quality writer working behind the scenes.
Anyways, I just not only wanted to say that I'm an admirer, but that I empathize with and appreciate your honesty and willingness to discuss a rather complex issue.
So I wish you success and most importantly, happiness within that success, as I endeavor to attain the same lofty goals!
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GOOD FOR YOU. And keep it up. Seeing your honesty is refreshing.
Keep up the ace work. :)
I am pretty late to this but great stuff Redgave, I thoroughly enjoyed The Paleblood Hunt and these additional videos are the icing on top.
Hi Redgrave, just wanted to give a thumbs up with some emoji sparkle to your research. I couldn't help but wonder further about the idea of seeing other things inside the blood. The League Hunter's are propped by Valtr, a foreign hunter ostensibly considering his garb, and I find him fascinating for the fact that it is only he who introduces the notion of vermin. A stranger from a strange land sees something others do not--I find this telling. The establishing of oaths, i.e. beliefs in the blood's true nature are created with multiple characters in Bloodborne, each asks the player to confirm their prior knowledge of the blood by taking an oath, it is only then that they can see what the oath keeper sees. A hunter only sees blood dregs if they've confirmed the oath of Vileblood for the Queen of Cainhurst. A hunter only sees vermin only after they give their oath to Valtr. Both are consumed in their preoccupations for what the blood further holds and both provide an additional maddening detail for the Yharnam hunter.
Also, what backs your theory is that a single type of antidote can cure all types of poison found throughout the game
It implies that all poisons are the same
You're very frank, Redgrave. I like you just the way you are. I think that enjoying the approval of others is a normal and natural biological part of being a human. It can drive intellectual and social innovation but one must not become enslaved by it, lest it adversely affect one's path in life. Personally, whatever interest I pursue I try to do it for my own enjoyment with the hope that maybe I can inspire others to enjoy and appreciate it, too.
Vaati only got where he is because of his presentation so there is no reason for you to be jealous. He's just the Discovery Channel of Souls lore. I study science and I loathe that channel as I can't find any real science there. I'd rather watch you cogitate over game lore in your bedroom for a half hour rather than watch a Vaati video because there's clearly a thinking mind at work here.
The live stream sounds cool and hopefully I can catch it if you decide to do it. I'm certainly looking forward to reading the updated Paleblood Hunt when I have the time. Thank you. Good luck to you and I'll see you when I see you.
Love your stuff, your lore adds so much to my playthough. The story you tell (with the game helping) is amazing
My friend had a similar experience on youtube a few years ago. Im glad you're doing this for the right reasons now. Thanks for all of your theories they are amazing and eloquently done . bloodborne is such a strange game if you play it blind, funny, you need many eyes to see.
The connection and narrowing down the poison was eye opening, really. Even in Dark Souls, poison is just a game mechanic, but in Bloodborne, I had no idea how big of a factor in the lore is was... well not big, but a very interesting factor in the lore. Wow!
Sometimes we all have to vent and regardless, this is a good series, fun to watch these/listen in.
At about 3.30 I absolutely understand you. A few days ago, I finished a history-paper for University. It physically drained me and I felt a bit aged from the stress. Even my hair seemed to suffer from that. Mental stress can really fuck you up.
Bloodlickers appear where much blood has been spilled to drink it, and take on the attributes of the blood they drink, so those in Cainhurst and in the Hunter's Nightmare are different blood groups/race of the same kind of beast
hey Redgrave :) just found your channel I really like it, you are pretty smart I couldn't put half of this together and I consider myself a lore master. I hope whatever your doing now pleases you and makes you happy :D cheers!
Respect Red. Glad to watch you evolve. Do it for you. ❤
Just wanna let you know your work is amazing! I enjoyed your work a lot. You're Bloodborne it's self :)
As someone who DID watch the start of the video, it's great to see you get your motivation back. I'm a writer myself, and I've always said that if you don't write for yourself, you shouldn't write for anyone.
With that said, great hypothesis as always! I'll say it anyway because I like making my approval heard. As for things I've always wondered about, there have been a few things that just don't seem to... Fit with anything else in Bloodborne. For instance, the Chapel Dweller. Who IS this guy? WHAT is this guy? What does he want? Where did he come from? Seriously, this is probably my number one question that I just can't seem to get anywhere with. Did he write the note in the adjoining room? If so, what "lost master" is Rom keeping from him-- from "us"? Who is us? None of it makes sense, and The Paleblood Hunt didn't mention him at all, as I recall. The only thing I could come up with was that he was possibly a Great One in disguise. Your thoughts on this would be MOST appreciated.
It's almost like the vilebloods' blood was ... vile....
13:15 is when the video actually starts.
Anything before that is just "personal bullshit" Per Redgraves words.
Thanks
Also Rapid Poison only seems to exist Specifically outside of Yarnham. So in the Nightmares, the Chalices and in Cainhurst, where we get the Chikage from.
Fame all too often starts to feel like a burden as opposed to a blessing, I would think. Imagine everywhere you went you always had people coming up to you, wanting to talk to you, get a picture with you, tell you how much they love you etc. It would get really annoying after a while having to plan ahead of time for yourself to enjoy basic privacy and you couldn't easily get annoyed at your fans either because after all they are adoring you. I think we may tend to take our common anonymity for granted because for most of us it's all we'll ever know. I don't think I mind not being in the spotlight though and perhaps you wouldn't either if you experienced what the other side was like. Anyway you have great content RedGrave! You're already famous compared to the average person. You probably wouldn't like getting much more famous.
Geez you only had 300 subscribers at the time of this video? Congrats on the rise man, you've certainly earned it
Excellent work as always, mr redgrave.
I've been privately thinking of guys like you, aegon, jerk sans, enb, vaati, etc. as the League of Scholars since the Valtr patch. I think my reasoning is that, like Valtr or Aldia, you guys are so deep into the games from a lore/world/narrative/mythological perspective that I suspect you just sound crazy to any hollow happening along trying to figure out what the Hunter Chief Emblem does or whatever.
HOLLOW: So...what're vermin?
SCHOLAR: HUNT, EYELESS WHELP! HUNT AND FEED AND CUT AND DRAIN! REVEL IN THE BLOOD AND STENCH OF BURNING ENTRAILS! ONLY THEN WILL YOU BE READY TO FACE THE ELDRITCH TRUTH TOUCHED UPON AT BYRGENWERTH! In cooperATION with your CONFEDERATES!
Wow, I was considering skipping that first bit about yourself, but I'm so glad I missed it because oh my god, I understand. I completely, 100% why you felt like that because I feel EXACTLY like that all the time, expect I might be in some kind of transition period rather then overcoming it.
Maybe I'm realizing it now because you we're talk about it, but my entire ego is based off of others approval, and part of me HATES that I'm like that. I use to make videos to make my friends laugh and hope that I'd randomly get popular, but my channel has slowly grown to have 8k subs and I'm even making some decent money off it now.
I just, I can't stress how much I feel you man, it's like we're on the same wavelengths or something.
Hey Redgrave, long time follower, you are the cornerstone to the lore community. Missed this video when it was released. Hope you are well.
I just discovered your work recently amazing hope your doing good man
It's been two years I dunno if you will read this now. I just discovered your Paleblood Hunt work and this channel. Let me tell you three things. 1) Your essay is awesome, your thorough lorehunting and keen writing about that beautiful game Bloodborne is actually felt "orgasmic", no joke, it made me feel so good, and I'm so thankful for you having brought this brainchild of yours into the world; 2) In regard to your comment about jealousy/paranoia/plagiarism, let me say, using Vaati as an example, that you shouldn't feel that way, because you know, Vaati's work is not exactly lorehunting (or goes beyond that), hei s a communicator, an "youtuber" and he is damn good at this, beautiful voice, awesome video edit, cool video script (could you, honestly, match his channel's level of quality, youtube-wise? I don't think so and there's nothing wrong with that)... your work helps him, sure, but only in the sense that a treecutter helps a paper box maker, and I say this not to demean your importance, just that your work has two dimensions to it, one that exhausts itself in its lorehunt purpose and essay writing, and another that transforms it into a feeding block to other works; and 3) I hope you are feeling psychologically better now, and I hope, really hope with all my heart, that you get to lorehunt again with Bloodborne 2.
This "maggots" in the scorpion's back are actually babbyes scorpions they pile themselves like that in real life too (: rlly cute
I think there is a...merit, of sorts, in saying that you do things for your own sake. You create content because you want to, and for that very reason, this content is genuine. You making videos for the sake of your viewers is commendable, yes, but by definition, it implies that you are creating it for a reason external from yourself. In a way, it is less genuine.
Redgrave, I'm a recent subscriber of yours, and I didn't press that red button for you. I did it for myself. Because I think your videos is valuable for me in varying degrees. Speaking purely from a viewer's perspective, I can arrogantly say that my intentions are genuine because of that. And I think it's a beautiful thing to have.
But, well, it's not my place to tell you to do anything. You do what you want to do. Because I really want the relation between you and your viewers to remain as something based off of honesty. I think I'm not alone in saying that we believe in whatever you do.
Also, it's ironically fitting that you'd talk about this in a video titled "Poison". That's real Soulsborne-level subtlety right there :D
Hey man! Thanks for sharing your thoughts and being so candid. Of course, I love your analysis, but let me speak to your more intimate discussion for a moment. I've gone through the same thing. I'm working on a big lore project myself ATM for Dark Souls and constantly I think, "why should I bother? Other, smarter people have done so much work already. Who will give a fuck? Why even try?" And yet I keep coming back to it. Why? Well, A. I just love the series so much, B. I want to contribute something to the community that has inspired me over the years, and C. Like you, knowing that a few people find my work meaningful, well, it means the world. I'll have you know that you're one of my big inspirations for doing this. Don't ever think that your work didn't have a positive impact - it does. I'm proof. ❤
I heard about this Channel from Aegon and I'm excited to dive into all the videos.
I’m glad you’ve found yourself a better emotional place to be.
Never sad till now bro but book is great and I hope you will write in your life fantastic prose. Anyway you don't know I think how good you can tell stories. Bloodborne is masterpiece best game that he made in his life. Cheers man
Could we talk a little about Beast's Embrace, and why Laurence of all people has it? The Church was clearly against embracing beasthood. That's why Izzy is a heretic. And why the clerics of the Church turn into such large and twisted beasts when they finally succumb. Also, speaking of Izzy, with the introduction of the Harrowed Hood in the DLC, is that further "proof" that the Suspicious Beggar is Izzy? I mean, harrowed...heretic of the church...hunter...
Thanks, the video was awesome!
+Imperiused I would recommend reading The Paleblood Hunt, in Chapter 9 I go into great detail on Laurence and the Beast's Embrace.
+Redgrave DotA Ah, I guess I should have read your updated version before asking. I'll definitely get to it soon. Here's a question a little more in line with your series title: what is up with the antlers/horns/tusks of Cleric Beasts? The Cleric Beast has them. Vicar Amelia has them. Laurence has them. And the Beast-Possessed Soul and Loran Clerics also have them. And three out of five of those wield fire, which beasts typically fear/are weak to... I imagine this is all connected to how the clerics resist beasthood through sheer willpower alone. Or maybe this is somehow related to the magic they all (minus the original Cleric Beast) wield?
There's a guy in yharnam next to the black church set that hits your with poison. He tries to jump out at you.