the rifle is an sg1 sniper rifle based on the g3a3 from heckler and koch (i used this exact rifle in my time of service) its a wonderful rifle with accuracy you wont believe. if there was 1 thing i could keep from my military service, it would be this rifle
His "mesh" mask is a firefighter balaclava. We use them for protection from frames. It makes sense firefly would wear one being in demolition. Its solid and not transparent
Version 1 of firefly was a toy designed to be played with by children versions 2 and 3 were collector's items and they came with a stand because that's what they're supposed to do stand there
I never had the original Firefly as a kid, so I was happy to pick this one up in '92 to add the character to my collection. I like the figure sculpt, and the green is a great color as far as colors go; but not for a military figure. He would have looked great with the gray being a darker shade (like his '84 camo) and the green being light gray (to match his '84 base color). I've always preferred the '92 gray version since it was the one I had, matched his comic appearance and seemed like a nod to the original, but the black variant is starting to grow on me. Given FF's concept card mention of the French Foreign Legion, and his retconned origin in those later comics (son of a presumable French plantation owner in Viet Nam), I'd love to see Vincent Cassel play him in a movie someday.
9:32 Looks more like some form of H&K G3 series rifle to me. It's nice to see a real-ish weapon so late in the line, usually they just went crazy. Black or gray would have been better, obviously.
@@wallaroo1295 If this rifle was colored black and included with the 1991 Low Light it would have been a great paring. As a sniper, Low Light should have a rifle not some machine pistol on steroids.
@@user-si9fx4xb6v For a tiny toy accessory, particularly GI Joe with it's *almost* accurate to downright outlandish weaponry - I have to put this one near the top of the book for accuracy based on a real firearm. They even got the twin pins at the rear of the receiver correct!
Great review Bryan. I can't overstate just how much these neon colors detract from the figures. When you compare the 80s and 90s eras, it looks as if there was a completely different group of people designing and sculpting. I do know the Hasbro chief who brought GI Joe back in 1982 passed away in 1989...I wonder how much his death impacted the direction of the toys for the last few years.
As a fellow G.I. Joe collector, I would imagine it did impact things behind scenes to a degree. The years of 1990-1994 saw quite a bit of deviation from the military roots of the line. Plus just about each year of the 1990's featured some gimmick to help sell the toys. I will admit the spring loaded missile launchers, where one of the better ideas to come out of this period. I am still gratefully that despite much of the silliness of this era, we still got some decent action figures like Big Ben from time to time.
Issue 126 with Firefly was my introduction into the comics. Great storyline. Too bad through the issue 120s the story was cut into parts spiced with other storylines.
By 1992/1993, I was 13/14, and almost both feet out of the Joe game. However, I never had Firefly 1.0 as a kid, and wouldn't acquire him for another few years, so when I saw Firefly 2.0 in stores, he was an immediate buy. I was also still reading the Marvel Joe comics at the time, so it was cool to see Firefly return in his new costume. However, the comparison between 1.0 and 2.0 are so drastically different. I'll just say if I saw both 1.0 and 2.0 on the shelves, I would have bought 1.0 100% of the time over greeny. Though, I am glad I bought him.
The green color wasn't always green. That was the "at rest" color. When activated, the material imitated it's surroundings as a chameleon would. *This is not canon, but does make the character a bit more enjoyable IMO.
This figure was never Firefly to me. I reimagined him as C4 Viper. A unit of vipers trained by Firefly in demolitions. He didn’t like competition so the neon uniform was chosen so they had to work harder. He enjoyed his paycheck for training them and designing their costumes. The unit didn’t last long however.
Disappointing, but thank you for sharing your review bud! So many times we got re-molds of figures, but they chose to ignore this one! One of thier best sculpts EVER! I was way out of Joe's by this time, but thanks again for sharing bud!
Mike Ching yes and no, the H&K guns all retain the roller locking mechanism. The AK variants all utilize a rotating bolt system. While Kalashnikov definitely borrowed a lot of features from the Sturmgehwere.... He also incorporated a long stroke piston system, instead of using the roller delay of the original.
I was just happy to have a brand new Firefly figure. By 1992 my 1984 Firefly was in pretty bad shape and I very much needed a replacement. Would I have preferred a more subdued green? Or even a repeat of 1984 camouflage pattern? Sure! Heck, make it a digital camo pattern like Shockwave or Sonic Fighters Falcon. But in those pre-eBay days, I was willing to take what I could get. I was also fortunate to have an extra of 1984 Firefly's backpack, and the grays match perfectly, which makes me prefer the 1992 version a bit more. I like the sculpt, I like the design. If the colors and accessories had been better, this would have a standout figure IMHO. He's one of those 90s figures that I wish we'd gotten a repaint of in the 2000s. But it was never to be.
I think I'm only one of a few that actually likes this figure. V2 is the only Firefly I ever owned. For a lot of us, v1 was impossible to get and we had to live with what we had in the early nineties. The mold would have made a great army builder if it was used as a type of cobra viper instead of Firefly.
This is a prefect time to "let's rename this character". That is not Fire Fly, Fire Fly was not ever a Ninja, and he would not wear that lime green poop! How about we just call him the Paralyzer Viper, because a Joe would be paralyzed with laughter apone seeing him, and forget this ever happen! #notmyFirefly. Hoodie, that aside, great review! Love the opening lol. See you on Tuesday, if not then in the next one! YO HOODIE CO CO!
"I came, I saw, I blew something up" is a derivation of Julius Caeser's famous Latin phrase: "Veni, vidi, vici" (I came, I saw, I conquered." Firefly's file card should have read: "Veni, vidi, perdidit" (I came, I saw, I destroyed). This would have encouraged children to find out what it means, and been a very cool way to show that Firefly is well educated. The sculpting detail on Storm Shadow's mask indicate he is not wearing a balaclava; Firefly, version 1, on the other hand, is indeed wearing one. I found Fiefly's background and dedication to the art of weapon making (forging) to be a measure of his character. Firefly had always been an outlier in GI Joe. Happy to just stay in the background. Is that not what a ninja would actually do, assessing strengths and weaknesses, then, at the most opportune moment, strike?
Great review, my son had both the grey and black versions. Hasbro should have matched those colors for the accessories.I thought the sculpt of the figure was good. The spinning top was IMHO was a silly accessory, they should have given him a submachine gun and maybe a spring loaded rocket launcher, which I know were popular with other figures in that time.
Yearbook 2 he had an appearance sabotaging a bridge with a pair of cobra eels. I get the impression someone noticed how little firefly was used and gave him a lame retcon instead of something...... interesting.
Great video! Though I must say I hate what they did to one of my favorite Cobra figures. Bright green uniform for a covert saboteur? Obviously, he no longer wanted to work for Cobra and was hoping to be captured and sent to prison during a mission. Either that or the rest of Cobra's saboteurs were so bad at sneaking into places that Firefly was like, "Fine! I'll draw their attention! You just be sure not to screw up the sabotage!" I also agree with your assessment. The two figures are obviously variants rather than two different versions of the character.
I always thought of this version of Firefly was dropped in the Jungle. I mean that green would easily blend in. I think that's the one thing missing in this figure if that green was mixed with some black camo over it. This would have been an amazing new figure based on an old one. But the version one is just utter perfection in itself. It was the one old figure I wish I owned when I was a kid.
The design itself I think isn't too bad...could have used a more subdued color scheme. Interestingly, I think this design of Firefly actually turned up as an appendix on one of the G I Joe comics from the 90's. At least, I remember it in one pic in the comics long before I saw the toys in stores...
The blade spinner is perfect for demolition operations, but I have to agree that the bright lime green is very unpractical for these sabotage missions and even a little bit obnoxious. Of course, Firefly is not a ninja and he should've never been turned into one retroactively.
Great review! I'm a big fan of the original 1984 Firefly, but not either one of these 1992/93 variants. The green is too bright. A little camouflage would've made these variations more appealing.
They messed up his past. I could have swallowed him being a red ninja. Under the faceless master. But not the master himself. The neon green is killing me.
Indeed they did, and they continued to do so until G.I. Joe was retired in 1994. I must say this action figure is not a bad figure, it just needs a better paint job and better accessories.
Character development + joining the ninja craze is an economic way of utlizing a cool looking under developed character to avoid the boba fett syndrome. Unfortunately, it didn't do too well.
In this uniform he looks more like Green Fly rather than Fire Fly!! Great review HCC. Be careful not to go near any banks with that pantyhose on your head!!! Have a great week and I will see you on your livestream.
I have noticed in alot of the videos when you talk about a late cross sell with a vehicle that came out a year before. Maybe instead they were trying to cross sell the figure instead for people who already owned the vehicle who may have overlooked the figure and read the back and said "hey, wow he drives the vehicle I own, lets buy him " I too am not a fan of this toddler accessory.
WTF...Are they cancelling public schools in Tulsa for tomorrow? My wife teaches 4th grade here in Norman and schools are canceled in the metro tomorrow due to the threat of severe weather. I have never heard of such a thing.
Make the green a bit darker and hide the skin on the face a bit more and this might work as a second version of the Range Viper (HEAT Viper went lime green, Range Viper could also...).
I think the "faceless" effect in the original faceless one photograph of the masters was him shaking his head up and down really fast like how old photos blurred something in motion. It's much simpler. Kind of funny. Kind of likely.
the rifle is an sg1 sniper rifle based on the g3a3 from heckler and koch (i used this exact rifle in my time of service) its a wonderful rifle with accuracy you wont believe. if there was 1 thing i could keep from my military service, it would be this rifle
I love when your reviews remind me of figures I had completely forgotten about owning as a kid.
His "mesh" mask is a firefighter balaclava. We use them for protection from frames. It makes sense firefly would wear one being in demolition. Its solid and not transparent
Version 1 of firefly was a toy designed to be played with by children versions 2 and 3 were collector's items and they came with a stand because that's what they're supposed to do stand there
Someone just pointed me to this video. THANK YOU for the kind words :-)
I'm obsessed with the carded figures, variants and all!
Second that.
V3 My very first joe love this guy.
I never had the original Firefly as a kid, so I was happy to pick this one up in '92 to add the character to my collection. I like the figure sculpt, and the green is a great color as far as colors go; but not for a military figure. He would have looked great with the gray being a darker shade (like his '84 camo) and the green being light gray (to match his '84 base color). I've always preferred the '92 gray version since it was the one I had, matched his comic appearance and seemed like a nod to the original, but the black variant is starting to grow on me.
Given FF's concept card mention of the French Foreign Legion, and his retconned origin in those later comics (son of a presumable French plantation owner in Viet Nam), I'd love to see Vincent Cassel play him in a movie someday.
The bright green suit is in reference to an actual firefly glowing the same color.
9:32 Looks more like some form of H&K G3 series rifle to me. It's nice to see a real-ish weapon so late in the line, usually they just went crazy. Black or gray would have been better, obviously.
Looks more like a FN FAL.
@@gazz_N7 It's a G3 - set up to look like a PSG-1. The slant shape on the magazine well.
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@@wallaroo1295 If this rifle was colored black and included with the 1991 Low Light it would have been a great paring. As a sniper, Low Light should have a rifle not some machine pistol on steroids.
@@user-si9fx4xb6v Duh! My reading comprehension is off today! Yes, the 1991 version! LOL
@@user-si9fx4xb6v For a tiny toy accessory, particularly GI Joe with it's *almost* accurate to downright outlandish weaponry - I have to put this one near the top of the book for accuracy based on a real firearm. They even got the twin pins at the rear of the receiver correct!
Great review Bryan. I can't overstate just how much these neon colors detract from the figures. When you compare the 80s and 90s eras, it looks as if there was a completely different group of people designing and sculpting. I do know the Hasbro chief who brought GI Joe back in 1982 passed away in 1989...I wonder how much his death impacted the direction of the toys for the last few years.
As a fellow G.I. Joe collector, I would imagine it did impact things behind scenes to a degree. The years of 1990-1994 saw quite a bit of deviation from the military roots of the line. Plus just about each year of the 1990's featured some gimmick to help sell the toys. I will admit the spring loaded missile launchers, where one of the better ideas to come out of this period. I am still gratefully that despite much of the silliness of this era, we still got some decent action figures like Big Ben from time to time.
Always loved the Faceless Master storyline. They should have made his mask on the figure the same way they did it in the comic.
Issue 126 with Firefly was my introduction into the comics. Great storyline. Too bad through the issue 120s the story was cut into parts spiced with other storylines.
Out of all my g.i joes firefly was my favorite 😊
By 1992/1993, I was 13/14, and almost both feet out of the Joe game. However, I never had Firefly 1.0 as a kid, and wouldn't acquire him for another few years, so when I saw Firefly 2.0 in stores, he was an immediate buy. I was also still reading the Marvel Joe comics at the time, so it was cool to see Firefly return in his new costume. However, the comparison between 1.0 and 2.0 are so drastically different. I'll just say if I saw both 1.0 and 2.0 on the shelves, I would have bought 1.0 100% of the time over greeny. Though, I am glad I bought him.
Pretty sure the rifle is based on the Heckler&Koch MSG 90
Version 1 of Firefly was the best, always was, the 92/93 got silly with that bright lime green nonsense and spinning top!
Awesome review and I must say your reviews have really helped in adding figures in my collection and giving variations like this a chance to seek out
The green color wasn't always green. That was the "at rest" color. When activated, the material imitated it's surroundings as a chameleon would. *This is not canon, but does make the character a bit more enjoyable IMO.
This figure was never Firefly to me. I reimagined him as C4 Viper. A unit of vipers trained by Firefly in demolitions. He didn’t like competition so the neon uniform was chosen so they had to work harder. He enjoyed his paycheck for training them and designing their costumes. The unit didn’t last long however.
Groovy Review HCC I had the 92 version when I was 16 yes I collected in to my teen years
Mark Hoke nothing wrong with that
So did I. I stuck it out to the bitter end and into 1995 with Sgt Savage.
Disappointing, but thank you for sharing your review bud! So many times we got re-molds of figures, but they chose to ignore this one! One of thier best sculpts EVER! I was way out of Joe's by this time, but thanks again for sharing bud!
Raising Arizona: "Son...you've got a panty on your head."
"I think I got the best one..." from a room full of clones!
This Firefly rocks ♠️
The rifle is based on a Heckler and Koch MSG90 designated marksman’s rifle.
I always thot it look like a modified stg 44 sturmgewehr
Technically, all H&K roller locked rifles are descendants of the STG44.
@@OGBenPowell ...but by that same logic, so would all AK47 descendants, right?
Mike Ching yes and no, the H&K guns all retain the roller locking mechanism. The AK variants all utilize a rotating bolt system. While Kalashnikov definitely borrowed a lot of features from the Sturmgehwere.... He also incorporated a long stroke piston system, instead of using the roller delay of the original.
I was just happy to have a brand new Firefly figure. By 1992 my 1984 Firefly was in pretty bad shape and I very much needed a replacement. Would I have preferred a more subdued green? Or even a repeat of 1984 camouflage pattern? Sure! Heck, make it a digital camo pattern like Shockwave or Sonic Fighters Falcon. But in those pre-eBay days, I was willing to take what I could get. I was also fortunate to have an extra of 1984 Firefly's backpack, and the grays match perfectly, which makes me prefer the 1992 version a bit more. I like the sculpt, I like the design. If the colors and accessories had been better, this would have a standout figure IMHO. He's one of those 90s figures that I wish we'd gotten a repaint of in the 2000s. But it was never to be.
I think I'm only one of a few that actually likes this figure. V2 is the only Firefly I ever owned. For a lot of us, v1 was impossible to get and we had to live with what we had in the early nineties.
The mold would have made a great army builder if it was used as a type of cobra viper instead of Firefly.
I would like to have seen this figure with the green parts in black and the highlights in traditional Firefly grey. It would look fantastic like that
The gun is actually based on H&K G3 rifle
It's mainly due to the stock design, it has that HK G3/MP3A1 style stock.
...or maybe it's modeled after the HK MSG90?
This is a prefect time to "let's rename this character". That is not Fire Fly, Fire Fly was not ever a Ninja, and he would not wear that lime green poop! How about we just call him the Paralyzer Viper, because a Joe would be paralyzed with laughter apone seeing him, and forget this ever happen! #notmyFirefly. Hoodie, that aside, great review! Love the opening lol. See you on Tuesday, if not then in the next one! YO HOODIE CO CO!
Awesome review of Firefly...I gotta say though hard to beat the version 1.
"I came, I saw, I blew something up" is a derivation of Julius Caeser's famous Latin phrase: "Veni, vidi, vici" (I came, I saw, I conquered." Firefly's file card should have read: "Veni, vidi, perdidit" (I came, I saw, I destroyed). This would have encouraged children to find out what it means, and been a very cool way to show that Firefly is well educated.
The sculpting detail on Storm Shadow's mask indicate he is not wearing a balaclava; Firefly, version 1, on the other hand, is indeed wearing one. I found Fiefly's background and dedication to the art of weapon making (forging) to be a measure of his character. Firefly had always been an outlier in GI Joe. Happy to just stay in the background. Is that not what a ninja would actually do, assessing strengths and weaknesses, then, at the most opportune moment, strike?
Great review, my son had both the grey and black versions. Hasbro should have matched those colors for the accessories.I thought the sculpt of the figure was good. The spinning top was IMHO was a silly accessory, they should have given him a submachine gun and maybe a spring loaded rocket launcher, which I know were popular with other figures in that time.
Yearbook 2 he had an appearance sabotaging a bridge with a pair of cobra eels. I get the impression someone noticed how little firefly was used and gave him a lame retcon instead of something...... interesting.
Hell yeah my very first Gi joe thanks for this.
Great video! Though I must say I hate what they did to one of my favorite Cobra figures. Bright green uniform for a covert saboteur? Obviously, he no longer wanted to work for Cobra and was hoping to be captured and sent to prison during a mission. Either that or the rest of Cobra's saboteurs were so bad at sneaking into places that Firefly was like, "Fine! I'll draw their attention! You just be sure not to screw up the sabotage!"
I also agree with your assessment. The two figures are obviously variants rather than two different versions of the character.
I like the figure myself so in defiance I'd say it would be hard to lose him and his accessories at least.
1993 Firefly reminds me of the original Xbox
That's a G-3 rifle set up for a DMR.
I always thought of this version of Firefly was dropped in the Jungle. I mean that green would easily blend in. I think that's the one thing missing in this figure if that green was mixed with some black camo over it. This would have been an amazing new figure based on an old one. But the version one is just utter perfection in itself. It was the one old figure I wish I owned when I was a kid.
Could you see out of that? Seriously what's your thoughts on IDW's FireFly?
Had the "V3" variant. Could not bring myself to call him Firefly, just like the Low-Light from the same time.
I could swear my grey Firefly growing up had the black launcher.
This should be the top comment.
Great review.
Cool video
I personally liked this version of Firefly. I’ve always preferred version 3 over version 2. The black just looks good on him
Burn the land and boil the sea, you can’t take the sky from me
The design itself I think isn't too bad...could have used a more subdued color scheme.
Interestingly, I think this design of Firefly actually turned up as an appendix on one of the G I Joe comics from the 90's. At least, I remember it in one pic in the comics long before I saw the toys in stores...
Also, if they had to make him green at least do a camo pattern using the grey or black, it would make it a little better..lol
Those figs would look cooler without that lime green
BTW, thanks, now I have to go and watch Firefly because I have the song stuck in my head. lol
Firefly was always a mercenary to me.
"Bright and obnoxious". The perfect description of 90s joes.
The blade spinner is perfect for demolition operations, but I have to agree that the bright
lime green is very unpractical for these sabotage missions and even a little bit obnoxious.
Of course, Firefly is not a ninja and he should've never been turned into one retroactively.
Great review! I'm a big fan of the original 1984 Firefly, but not either one of these 1992/93 variants. The green is too bright. A little camouflage would've made these variations more appealing.
They messed up his past. I could have swallowed him being a red ninja. Under the faceless master. But not the master himself. The neon green is killing me.
Hama was running out of ideas by the time he made Firefly a ninja.
Oh yes, the "guns are pretty" phase. Never understood why Hasbro did this.
Why do you have three of a figure you don't like?
Anyone else like this theme song the most
Hasbro reimagined alto of classics that year
Indeed they did, and they continued to do so until G.I. Joe was retired in 1994. I must say this action figure is not a bad figure, it just needs a better paint job and better accessories.
Replace the neon with olive drab and lose the top weapon, it would not be a bad figure.
I hereby redesignate these figures as Timmer v1 and v2
The knowledge as always is amazing. I hope to someday be as knowledgeable on my youtube channel called, G.i.Joe's & Beards.
Character development + joining the ninja craze is an economic way of utlizing a cool looking under developed character to avoid the boba fett syndrome. Unfortunately, it didn't do too well.
Dudes so bright, you could see him from orbit!
I have confirmed that those figures are the same. Hasbro told me that the gray paint was on backorder for 1993. So they used black instead.
Could you please review cobra commander v6. He is my favorite with his black.
In this uniform he looks more like Green Fly rather than Fire Fly!! Great review HCC. Be careful not to go near any banks with that pantyhose on your head!!! Have a great week and I will see you on your livestream.
I have noticed in alot of the videos when you talk about a late cross sell with a vehicle that came out a year before. Maybe instead they were trying to cross sell the figure instead for people who already owned the vehicle who may have overlooked the figure and read the back and said "hey, wow he drives the vehicle I own, lets buy him " I too am not a fan of this toddler accessory.
I like to refer to this Firefly as Dumpster Firefly.
Ah yes I recall owning Slime Green Firefly and his Dreidul of Death. This was an awesome figure sculpt but the colors not so much.
I feel like the Sunbow version of Firefly was portrayed as very competent: he comes in, does a job and leaves.
Like it a lot
Looks an awful lot like an mp5k in a 223 caliber. It's a very odd setup for either rifle!
Too many ninjas.
WTF...Are they cancelling public schools in Tulsa for tomorrow? My wife teaches 4th grade here in Norman and schools are canceled in the metro tomorrow due to the threat of severe weather. I have never heard of such a thing.
Make the green a bit darker and hide the skin on the face a bit more and this might work as a second version of the Range Viper (HEAT Viper went lime green, Range Viper could also...).
V1 firefly one of the best 80s cobras
The Blues Brothers 2000 of the ARAH line!
But at least the blade launcher proves you're not stuck in a dream within a dream within a dream within a...
Can I be 1 pump cuz that's all I need ???
Please tell me you bought those pantyhose new for this review.
If Storm Shadow can be a Ninja in white, Firefly can be a Ninja in green.
I think the "faceless" effect in the original faceless one photograph of the masters was him shaking his head up and down really fast like how old photos blurred something in motion.
It's much simpler. Kind of funny. Kind of likely.
Larry was drunk that day.
The rifle is based on the Heckler and Koch PSG-1 snipee rifle, a sniper-ized version of their G3 7.62mm NATO rifle.
Truckin'Gunner, it’s actually based on the cheaper H&K MSG90. No weighted pistol grip, iron sights, etc...
85-86 I was done w G . I .Joe
I'm trying to picture Firefly being a real person and trying to use that top weapon, and the GI Joes dying... from laughter.
I can't believe there's actually fans of these terrible mid 90's figures. Yuck!
I recommend wearing black stockings, they hide your face better. And no, I'm not a professional burglar. 👍😂
What the hell is that? That's not Firefly, you can see his face. He's lime green not gray,
And once again......neon ninja's! 👎