The alpha really destroyed my enjoyment of my free time for the moment haha. Normally I loved to go fly around a bit in the evening when my girlfriend and kid went to bed, it was my zen moment of the day. Or I played some VR games if I wanted to have some action. I was really happy. Now when I fire up 2020 I just can't appreciate it as much anymore, the ugly trees bother me all of a sudden, the lighting feels off, everything is too damn green, the stutters are worse, the clouds don't look as nice, the night lighting isn't as good... and every time I try and fire it up I find something else that's just not as good anymore, I feel locked up inside the plane now for instance 😅. Instead of playing VR games I find myself hanging around the forums or RUclips reading and watching about MSFS2024. It has really destroyed some delicate balance it seems 🤣. It's going to be a long month!
Day one switch for me. I have noticed something which I hope happens all over…the roads no longer have that green tint and look much more natural, especially the country roads. Also, the sim looks brighter, especially with the light clouds setting. The bottom surface of cumulous clouds is not nearly as dark as it looks in MSFS2020 and is much more natural.
great video guys! I am very excited about 2024 and probably not going anywhere near it for 2-6 months until the dust from the release settles (bugs, server issues, all the problems we're not even thinking about yet. I remember what the first two years of 2020 were like!) but more importantly until I see there is a clear path to bring what I have from 2020 into 2024 and get it working without breaking the bank, and from what I'm seeing so far, I'm concerned. If every 3rd party plane from 2020 is going to cost an upgrade fee and if the same applies to enough 3rd party airports, I may hold off.
Don‘t forget 3rd party developers are getting access to the sdk on the 21st of this month already. Hence they‘ll have almost a full month to get their products compatible with the new sim if not take advantage of the new features. My assumption is that right after the new sim releases PMDG and the others will provide a build that fully works in MSFS 2024. With that taken care of there‘s going to be no reason to keep using 2020.
Day one cutoff, for sure. The planes delivered with the new sim, should last until the big devs updated their planes. Hopefully it doesn’t take too long. Think one of the first will be iFly. Whats your guess?
Remember guys, this was a stripped down Tech Alpha based on an older development built to test services. Many things will not be the same for the release version on November 19, which very likely will also apply to controls and compatibility features. So, drawing any conclusions to that effect is pointless right now. And claiming people and developers will be having these issues is just premature.
Yeah probably like a six months old build at least and stripped down on top of it. You don't go from that to a final product in one month... Obviously.
I personally won't uninstall 2020 till the fenix a320 series are fully compatible and vatsim is fully compatible. I don't care about the story mode or the mission stuff.
Probably a day one switch. I can fly helicopter and bush stuff until PMDG and Fenix catch up. I hope the Twin Otter and ATR72 are good out of the gate. I could spend a month doing some Africa flying then come back when the airliners arrive.
Why? 2020 doesn't even run perfectly on its own. PMDG have never run "perfectly" even going back to FS2004. Just upgrade at release and don't look back. Spend those weeks waiting for PMDG by learning all the intricacies and getting those graphics settings dialed.
I don't know about the background of that information but during the SDK developer stream it was announced that wiper effects are supported by the core sim now and that these are controlled by a new texture layer which also enables smear. The effect the wiper creates was basically not previewed yet. Keep in mind, that comment was about the default 737 Max 8 on MSFS 2024 and not the iFly one on MSFS 2020.
you actually prove yourself wrong. It is the 2024 effect. and the max uses the effect. No conspiracies here, which simmers seem to run with quickly FAR TO LONG
@@pieterduplessis6906 ehm. How can it be the 2024 effect when the effect is the same in 2020? If you watched the sdk livestream u have to do some work in 2024 sdk to enable it.
Speculating on whether or not third party add-ons work based on an alpha where those add-ons were not supposed to be used is not wise. Asobo have been testing backwards compatibility and they are happy with the results.
I will wait quite long, like I did with MSFS2020. My graphic card is a GTX1080 and is not compatible with the new sim. To run well with the new version I should buy a new or half new computer and in this moment their prices are too high. I will wait at least minimum six months.
@@antonioiozzi291Apparently the performance is better across the board when compared to 2020. So if you can run 2020, you should be able to run 2024 but with better performance.
@@fsx-legend4602well for one the first one came to pc first.. it’s made for pc, more peripherals available and everything else. It’s a simulation not a video game right.. also the alpha was only available for PC as well. No alpha for the Xbox was released. It could come there’s still a month to go.
my my my, in 2024 and simmers still comparing to fsx. You have disqualified yourself right there. We now know everything we need to know just about how pathetic your knowledge and comparisons skills are. anything else out of your keyboard will be pure junk. you might go over to the flat earth forums. perfect for you real fact say that the default aircraft is the best set of default aircraft in almost 42 years of FS
Smooth if u have highend system. I think their system specs they posted are very high leaving alot of folks having to turn down graphics with 16gb ram min. Also read its demanding huge bandwiith up to 180mbps
32 GB is recommended for 2020 too so it isn't unreasonable that 16GB is not enough. The sim also doesn't DEMAND 180mb/s, it just makes use of what is available. People with 20 mb/s limits were flying around just fine.
@@Nor0252 we will see. I dont trust microsoft . Lets see how it does with the big jets in the full release. The alpha was very restrictive. These 2 guys both have highend systems.
I wouldn't say dead but XP doesn't have much left to show off compared to that. Their development is pretty slow as well for understandable reasons, compared to Asobo and the stubbornness of Austin Meyer probably doesn't help either... Remember that if it was not for Ben Supnik, who pushed to develop XP12 as soon as possible after the MSFS2020 initial announcement, if I remember correctly Meyer's own words, they would probably only have been releasing XP 12 now... XP will just become even more of a niche product, geared towards flight schools and training. Not sure if it will suffice. They are still around after the MSFS2020 run, so... We will see.
@@stanlesuper Yes. Since it's photometric with full PBR as well now, it does gives off XP vibes, included night lighting... Again, one more thing Laminar research can't rely use anymore against its competitor. Even the flight dynamics are pretty on par now (for desktop usage).
@@classydave75 the flight dynamic fallacy can now be put to bed. and I agree with your viewpoint but we cannot always say one thing kills off another but when MSFS get FAA certification, then we can call on xplane funeral and with MSFS it will take some time, JUST AS IT DID WITH XPLANE
@@pieterduplessis6906 Yes I heard they are working on a MSFS FAA version... That's another potential problem for Laminar Research in the medium to long term. I don't know what they can do honestly, to at least don't lose market share. More they probably already have... At least Supnik is hard at work to refactor their terrain engine. The situation is also partly the fault of Meyer. Remember when he refused to collaborate with a big aircraft addons creator back then (don't recall which one)? Granted, he didn't want to give them access to his code, but couldn't he have found some compromise? That would have been a big plus for the platform and its future... I don't know, I like Ben Supnik but Meyer really feels like a pain in the ass to work with... And Asobo probably shattered is comfort zone, forcing him to at least expand a bit is team and hire a few people to make the development a little faster. That's just my opinion anyway, maybe I'm wrong.
Too much hype, too much negativity both. It was not an Alpha, it was not a "legit teaser", it was a TECHNICAL alpha build specifically build to just test server connections and to gather telemetry. On release the look will be different, the performance will be different and the features will be different. Some aspects may be the same, however the release version WILL be different, that's sure. Do yourself a favor and don't overhype or overhate anything because of that version. If you are still undecided better wait for proper reviews based on the release version and not based on that stitched together version.
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The alpha really destroyed my enjoyment of my free time for the moment haha. Normally I loved to go fly around a bit in the evening when my girlfriend and kid went to bed, it was my zen moment of the day. Or I played some VR games if I wanted to have some action. I was really happy. Now when I fire up 2020 I just can't appreciate it as much anymore, the ugly trees bother me all of a sudden, the lighting feels off, everything is too damn green, the stutters are worse, the clouds don't look as nice, the night lighting isn't as good... and every time I try and fire it up I find something else that's just not as good anymore, I feel locked up inside the plane now for instance 😅. Instead of playing VR games I find myself hanging around the forums or RUclips reading and watching about MSFS2024. It has really destroyed some delicate balance it seems 🤣. It's going to be a long month!
I know EXACTLY what you mean, bro! Lol
You’re not the only one man. I haven’t even played it yet but it set the bar higher for games
Day 1
You’re not alone man.
Dude the stutters lol. Iv been so irritated more than I should by them after being away for those 3 days lol
Night lighting is so beautiful too ! Day one cut off !!
Day one switch for me. I have noticed something which I hope happens all over…the roads no longer have that green tint and look much more natural, especially the country roads. Also, the sim looks brighter, especially with the light clouds setting. The bottom surface of cumulous clouds is not nearly as dark as it looks in MSFS2020 and is much more natural.
great video guys! I am very excited about 2024 and probably not going anywhere near it for 2-6 months until the dust from the release settles (bugs, server issues, all the problems we're not even thinking about yet. I remember what the first two years of 2020 were like!) but more importantly until I see there is a clear path to bring what I have from 2020 into 2024 and get it working without breaking the bank, and from what I'm seeing so far, I'm concerned. If every 3rd party plane from 2020 is going to cost an upgrade fee and if the same applies to enough 3rd party airports, I may hold off.
Don‘t forget 3rd party developers are getting access to the sdk on the 21st of this month already. Hence they‘ll have almost a full month to get their products compatible with the new sim if not take advantage of the new features. My assumption is that right after the new sim releases PMDG and the others will provide a build that fully works in MSFS 2024. With that taken care of there‘s going to be no reason to keep using 2020.
Already preordered and once out will be deleting 2020
Day one cut bro!!
Day one cutoff, for sure. The planes delivered with the new sim, should last until the big devs updated their planes. Hopefully it doesn’t take too long. Think one of the first will be iFly. Whats your guess?
Done with 2020 when 2024 comes out. No and, ifs or buts about it.
I fear: no downstream capabilities in November 😂
Remember guys, this was a stripped down Tech Alpha based on an older development built to test services. Many things will not be the same for the release version on November 19, which very likely will also apply to controls and compatibility features. So, drawing any conclusions to that effect is pointless right now. And claiming people and developers will be having these issues is just premature.
Yeah probably like a six months old build at least and stripped down on top of it. You don't go from that to a final product in one month... Obviously.
Great Conversation. Enjoyed
I was very impressed by the new water in the alpha, it looks and 'feels' amazing.
I'll be waiting for FSUIPC to be updated, the Fenix and a pilots life before jumping over. But once I do I won't be going back
Lucky for me i have a dedicated drive for games especially FS2020, I'll keep FS2020 for a few weeks
those conifers look very much better than up to now.
Goodbye 2020... Hello 2024!
Just got a brand spanking new computer with an i7 processor, GeForce 4070 RTX with 12GB DDR, and 32 GB of RAM... let's go!
I personally won't uninstall 2020 till the fenix a320 series are fully compatible and vatsim is fully compatible. I don't care about the story mode or the mission stuff.
Probably a day one switch. I can fly helicopter and bush stuff until PMDG and Fenix catch up. I hope the Twin Otter and ATR72 are good out of the gate. I could spend a month doing some Africa flying then come back when the airliners arrive.
I will be keep 2020 until 2024 is running my PMDG and IFly perfectly.
Why? 2020 doesn't even run perfectly on its own. PMDG have never run "perfectly" even going back to FS2004. Just upgrade at release and don't look back. Spend those weeks waiting for PMDG by learning all the intricacies and getting those graphics settings dialed.
Who erase a grass? Where's a grass????😮
it wasn't enable in the alpha.
I think to make airplanes from 2020 work in 2024 you would have to set the flight model setting to “legacy”
The windshield wiper effect was from the custom wiper effect in the 737Max, it was not the 2024 effect.
I don't know about the background of that information but during the SDK developer stream it was announced that wiper effects are supported by the core sim now and that these are controlled by a new texture layer which also enables smear. The effect the wiper creates was basically not previewed yet. Keep in mind, that comment was about the default 737 Max 8 on MSFS 2024 and not the iFly one on MSFS 2020.
@@deltak5457 to use the new wiper effect in mfs2024, aircraft devs have to enable the effect in the sdk,it doesnt just work without enabling it.
you actually prove yourself wrong. It is the 2024 effect. and the max uses the effect. No conspiracies here, which simmers seem to run with quickly FAR TO LONG
@@pieterduplessis6906 ehm. How can it be the 2024 effect when the effect is the same in 2020? If you watched the sdk livestream u have to do some work in 2024 sdk to enable it.
Speculating on whether or not third party add-ons work based on an alpha where those add-ons were not supposed to be used is not wise. Asobo have been testing backwards compatibility and they are happy with the results.
I will wait quite long, like I did with MSFS2020. My graphic card is a GTX1080 and is not compatible with the new sim. To run well with the new version I should buy a new or half new computer and in this moment their prices are too high. I will wait at least minimum six months.
Why wait, if you can run 2020, you surely can run 2024.
@@Nor0252 yes but with wich quality? My PC is 6 years old...
@@antonioiozzi291 And mine is a 7 years old i5-8400, runs 2024 on ultra/medium 1080 and stutters less than 2020.
@@antonioiozzi291 I have a7 year old i5-8400, ran the Alpha on 1080p on ultra, without stutters.
@@antonioiozzi291Apparently the performance is better across the board when compared to 2020. So if you can run 2020, you should be able to run 2024 but with better performance.
4:35 😂 nice
I hope they add the new airports which were not there in fs2020 like FLSK in zambia
I’m a day buyer, because my msfs 2020 is broken 😭
Mine too it keeps saying restart your pc or uninstall
Probably because you messed it up.
@@fsx-legend4602 damn dude, I didn’t do anything just logged on one day and was like that
day one cutoff I enjoyed 2024 too much
going to cut the cord on 2020
day 1 for sure
great post, if you can ,please tell me you PC specs?
Don't know exactly but its up there at the top recommended specs.
Ill use both drive space in this day and age is absolutely nothing,Im not flying default planes for months waiting for updates.
The Fact we've seen no Gameplay of the game running on Xbox Series S/X with 4 Weeks to Release has me Worried
That is the Xbox users fault for not showing you the performance. They had their chance at tech alpha just like the PC users.
@@fsx-legend4602well for one the first one came to pc first.. it’s made for pc, more peripherals available and everything else. It’s a simulation not a video game right.. also the alpha was only available for PC as well. No alpha for the Xbox was released. It could come there’s still a month to go.
@@fsx-legend4602 They never got a chance, no Xbox player got technical alpha
@@fsx-legend4602 You do know that the tech alpha wasn't available on Xbox?
minute 7 - right, Asobo planes are not flyable. Just like FSX -the default planes were junk.
my my my, in 2024 and simmers still comparing to fsx. You have disqualified yourself right there. We now know everything we need to know just about how pathetic your knowledge and comparisons skills are. anything else out of your keyboard will be pure junk. you might go over to the flat earth forums. perfect for you
real fact say that the default aircraft is the best set of default aircraft in almost 42 years of FS
4 TB so can have both.. when one goes kapput will fly the other :)
Smooth if u have highend system. I think their system specs they posted are very high leaving alot of folks having to turn down graphics with 16gb ram min. Also read its demanding huge bandwiith up to 180mbps
32 GB is recommended for 2020 too so it isn't unreasonable that 16GB is not enough. The sim also doesn't DEMAND 180mb/s, it just makes use of what is available. People with 20 mb/s limits were flying around just fine.
@@tubeloobs n n I
Not in newyork
You don't need a high end system, runs fine on my 7 year old i5-8400
@@Nor0252 we will see. I dont trust microsoft . Lets see how it does with the big jets in the full release. The alpha was very restrictive. These 2 guys both have highend systems.
I can't play msfs in monitor I wish the performance in VR is better than 2020 🙏
Xplane is officially dead!
I wouldn't say dead but XP doesn't have much left to show off compared to that. Their development is pretty slow as well for understandable reasons, compared to Asobo and the stubbornness of Austin Meyer probably doesn't help either... Remember that if it was not for Ben Supnik, who pushed to develop XP12 as soon as possible after the MSFS2020 initial announcement, if I remember correctly Meyer's own words, they would probably only have been releasing XP 12 now... XP will just become even more of a niche product, geared towards flight schools and training. Not sure if it will suffice. They are still around after the MSFS2020 run, so... We will see.
Msfs 2024 has great lighting now, like xplane 12.1
@@stanlesuper Yes. Since it's photometric with full PBR as well now, it does gives off XP vibes, included night lighting... Again, one more thing Laminar research can't rely use anymore against its competitor. Even the flight dynamics are pretty on par now (for desktop usage).
@@classydave75 the flight dynamic fallacy can now be put to bed. and I agree with your viewpoint
but we cannot always say one thing kills off another
but when MSFS get FAA certification, then we can call on xplane funeral
and with MSFS it will take some time, JUST AS IT DID WITH XPLANE
@@pieterduplessis6906 Yes I heard they are working on a MSFS FAA version... That's another potential problem for Laminar Research in the medium to long term. I don't know what they can do honestly, to at least don't lose market share. More they probably already have... At least Supnik is hard at work to refactor their terrain engine.
The situation is also partly the fault of Meyer. Remember when he refused to collaborate with a big aircraft addons creator back then (don't recall which one)? Granted, he didn't want to give them access to his code, but couldn't he have found some compromise? That would have been a big plus for the platform and its future...
I don't know, I like Ben Supnik but Meyer really feels like a pain in the ass to work with... And Asobo probably shattered is comfort zone, forcing him to at least expand a bit is team and hire a few people to make the development a little faster. That's just my opinion anyway, maybe I'm wrong.
Too much hype, too much negativity both.
It was not an Alpha, it was not a "legit teaser", it was a TECHNICAL alpha build specifically build to just test server connections and to gather telemetry.
On release the look will be different, the performance will be different and the features will be different. Some aspects may be the same, however the release version WILL be different, that's sure.
Do yourself a favor and don't overhype or overhate anything because of that version. If you are still undecided better wait for proper reviews based on the release version and not based on that stitched together version.
Recording yourself with a potato i see