Yea the reason you don't wanna do that against a slashing type weapon like that or a halberd, is because you cannot deflect a strike. Remember, it's not a sword, you aren't out spacing your opponent. The Naginata is too heavy for a regular deflect.
@@HonorableAssassins yea he's saying that he wouldn't partake in a competition where he couldn't. Against a weapon like that, you don't want to. It's meant for slashing and it's gonna bring a hell of a lot of force behind it. In plus it's a polearm so you gotta overcome that length when you thrust.
"Ok, everyone knows the rules, no stabbing, alright ? Your opponent will be fighting with a Naginata." *Picks up THE MOTHERF***ING SPEAR* Dude. At war, whenever you want. At sports : why on Earth ?
@Aaron Savage to an ant, my flick is like being punched by a god. I'm aware of the damage it can do to a human. I think it is funny to equivocate that to a bonk, in comparison to other more devastating blows.
The Naginata's swept-up tip can be used to attack the insides of the armpits, the thighs, and the groin. You can just imagine the amount of bleeding that can cause in real life combat. If sparring rules don't allow for this, it is not the Naginata's fault. The rules then determine which weapon gives you the most advantage in this controlled sparring environment.
All three of those locations are protected by a layer of chainmail and padded gambeson, it would be a lot more difficult to land an effective cut than you'd think.
I like both spears and Naginata's. I believe the Naginata is both easier to use/attack and hit with. It's litteraly a staff with a sword attached. The spear requires more precision to score a hit.
Spear is more effective one handed compared to a Naginata though, as you don’t need to handicap yourself if you want to have a shield. Two handed spears could also get pretty long, he’s definitely got a shorter one.
At first I was like “imagine people on the battlefield standing around this long 🤣” but then I looked at the armor they were wearing,,, and maybe it’s closer to the past than I thought.
@the amorphous flatsch I don't think it's the same as boxing or mma, there aren't any rounds in a life or death battle they might not want to give their enemy any time to breath
Is a spear a good dueling weapon? To me, a spear seems much more effective issued to an army, not used in a 1v1 duel. I think a better matchup for the naginata would be a polearm since they both seem to have a more similar use case ( both are largely striking weapons, while a spear is largely a thrusting weapon), but please correct me if I'm wrong.
It's an excellent weapon, as stabbing weapons are in general. It isn't good at point blank range, but that can be easily mitigated by keeping your distance and delivering mid-run stabs. The advantages of its range are far greater than the disadvantages. Its main disadvantage is that it isn't a good "just in case" weapon. You can't carry it on your waist as a spare, or easily take it with you while traveling.
I always thought spears were more . . . Stabby stabby - plus the length of the spear is its defense. Though I could tell the knight was more used to using a longsword.
Someone thats somewhat knowledgeable on the matter, please correct me if I’m wrong but seeing as both are heavily armored, can’t the one knight just trap the slashy spear *yes that’s the technical term your just not reading the right manuals duh* and then just stab him with the staby spear
it's not different and not special anyways from using spear to naginata cuz you guys still being on the same tactics and movement on the armour, the japanese has their tactics movement on their Samurai armour
Why not put a tennis ball at the end of these things or something? Just so you can do the stabby stab. Why spar with weapons that are literally known for stabbing if you're just gonna waste it?
Perhaps this is the strangest manner of using a spear that I have seen. Perhaps this is HMB and it is forbidden to stab, but then why use a spear at all?
I wonder how real old wars were cuz we know armor wont be cut through with weapons so easily you gotta put alot of force into it but the first one to strike loses the time to wind up a heavy attack
В реале копьё бы использовали как копьё то есть совершали колющие удары на расстоянии с интервалом в секунду В этом и плюс копья нихрена учиться не нужно но оч эфективно в бою тем более один на один Первый тычок с под шагом в корпус и и второй сходу подшаго с тычком в голову и одновременно прикрытие от удара с боку или с верху которое открывает брешь для удара снизу вверх всю в ту же голову которое позволяет провести сильно дальний удар сближая руки на древке в плотную А он им бил как длинной палкой копьё копьём простота просто той но хоть что то то думать нужно Начинать в разы легче клаья начиная с древка заканчивая лезвием режущая кромка как и само лезвие длиннее имееться изгиб для режущего окончания удара дабы орудие не застопорилось в теле врага при попадании она и расчитанна для таких вот ударов на расстоянии а копьё не для этого придумали им бл не рубят
That’s not how you use Naginata. It shouldn’t be so close to one’s body. It’s a Katana with longer handle he should extend his arms and create distance between enemy and make swift cuts during enemy opening.
i assume there are some strikt rules, cause i cant imagine weilding a spear and not stabbing with it.
I think stabs aren't allowed in buhurt
And that's the whole point of spears you poke with them
It's simple really
Stabbing can kill
This is a sport where you're training
@@badfoody Training what? You can only fight they way you train. If he uses spear like that he can't use spear.
Obviously he can’t stab with it, this is a sport, not a medieval tournament
I would never partake in something with a spear that says I can't use it as intended.
Yea the reason you don't wanna do that against a slashing type weapon like that or a halberd, is because you cannot deflect a strike. Remember, it's not a sword, you aren't out spacing your opponent. The Naginata is too heavy for a regular deflect.
Stabbing might puncture the armor..
They do that so they don’t fucking kill each other
@@carminescursethats not true at all.
Buhurt as a sport does not allow thrusts. Period.
@@HonorableAssassins yea he's saying that he wouldn't partake in a competition where he couldn't. Against a weapon like that, you don't want to. It's meant for slashing and it's gonna bring a hell of a lot of force behind it. In plus it's a polearm so you gotta overcome that length when you thrust.
Yea both should've used polearm, if no stabbing is a rule then using a spear is pretty.. pointless.
Ba-dum tsss
@@generaljim3283 i think no pun was intended...........
Ba-dum tssss
I see your point.
I'll be leaving now.
Well, a spear usually has a point.
I know terrible dad joke but I couldn't help it and I did it at about 3 in the morning
@@sylvershelley8595 not using a spear as a spear is . . . Pointless
Pointless
PPPPOOOOIIIIINNNNTTTTLLLEEESSSS
The naginata is a spear designed for stabbing and slashing, moreso slashing as it's literally a swordspear.
Isnt the "samurai spear" called a Yari? A naginata is, like you said, more like a swordspear
Naginata is not a spear, it’s more like a glaive, a pole sword. Yari is the Japanese spear.
ye but.... They do not train as how real samurais trained. He even stands different, and fights different,
@@armintor2826 The term you're looking for would be a glaive.
Ngl I was sure it originated as a farmers tool.
"Ok, everyone knows the rules, no stabbing, alright ? Your opponent will be fighting with a Naginata."
*Picks up THE MOTHERF***ING SPEAR*
Dude. At war, whenever you want. At sports : why on Earth ?
Bro forgot spears are pointy
Cant stab with steel weapons in duels like this
He also forgot that it's a swordspear. Slashes are optimal and both are decently armored, sooo
Bro forgot its not a real duel and theyre just sparring
@@zerumsiru5204 The idea isnt to kill the person just sparring
@@medievalarmorexptert6827duh it’s full contact armor and it’s not against the rules to slash. Plus don’t they do it in sword sparring
that last lil bonk on the helmet, and the sad walk away. perfect.
That “lil bonk” would have lacerated your face and probably blinded you in one eye. That’s a cut that’ll bleed you out
@Aaron Savage to an ant, my flick is like being punched by a god.
I'm aware of the damage it can do to a human. I think it is funny to equivocate that to a bonk, in comparison to other more devastating blows.
bruh they should've just replaced the metal tip with a blunt but equally heavy wooden one, that way they can actually use them as spears
The Naginata's swept-up tip can be used to attack the insides of the armpits, the thighs, and the groin. You can just imagine the amount of bleeding that can cause in real life combat.
If sparring rules don't allow for this, it is not the Naginata's fault. The rules then determine which weapon gives you the most advantage in this controlled sparring environment.
All three of those locations are protected by a layer of chainmail and padded gambeson, it would be a lot more difficult to land an effective cut than you'd think.
I like both spears and Naginata's.
I believe the Naginata is both easier to use/attack and hit with. It's litteraly a staff with a sword attached. The spear requires more precision to score a hit.
Spear is more effective one handed compared to a Naginata though, as you don’t need to handicap yourself if you want to have a shield. Two handed spears could also get pretty long, he’s definitely got a shorter one.
WHATS THE POINT OF A SPEAR IF YOU WONT STAB!
Not to mention weapons with longer reach (Naginata, spear) that are short as hell and have the same reach as sword. What is the point?
Why are they comparing a polearm to a spear? Japan also had spears.
Yari.
I gues their just having fun. This fight doesnt nearly qualify as scientific so its just a little fun
I'm really tired of seeing HEMA guys or Buhurt Guys dressed in Yoroi and misusing Japanese weapons terribly
A lot of you guys really miss the point of this sport, along with how war and battle worked back then, holy shit.😅😂
i see he skipped spear lesdons
weird ur allowed to use the spear but cant fracking stab with it!?
Bro has a stabbing weapon.. proceeds to never stab
Should a Spear not be more like stabby-stabby ?
Why is the spearman trying to use his spear like an axe?
This guys are in the highway to get in the hospital...
Racists: NO LONGSWORD SUPERIORRRRR
Weebs: NOOOOO KATANAAAAA
Actual Knights and Samurai: hehe sharp thing on stick goes brrrrr
aren't spears meant for thrusting?
Tin samurai never use koryu budo techniques always do and use brute forces
You gotta inflict bleed…
Для нас ждёт фехтование луками и армреслинг на цестусах
My favourite weapon is a taiaha
That's not how you use a spear.
En un combate real puedes usar la empuñadura para desequilibribar 😅
Looks like a tie to me.
I can already see how fast real life fights with these would last
skillful both fighters💪
Однозначно самурай погибнет. Выбор оружия его подвело.
Why not use something like a bardiche or a halberd since you can't thrust in buhurt anyway?
At first I was like “imagine people on the battlefield standing around this long 🤣” but then I looked at the armor they were wearing,,, and maybe it’s closer to the past than I thought.
You expect me to believe that's how during they fight in the days.
how else are they supposed to fight?
@@theamorphousflatsch2699 they aren't being aggressive enough
you want them to kill each other? its just a sport
@@Nocturne33 no, fighting aggressively doesn't mean you fight well, when you're in battle you need to conserve your energy as well as possible.
@the amorphous flatsch I don't think it's the same as boxing or mma, there aren't any rounds in a life or death battle they might not want to give their enemy any time to breath
Is a spear a good dueling weapon? To me, a spear seems much more effective issued to an army, not used in a 1v1 duel.
I think a better matchup for the naginata would be a polearm since they both seem to have a more similar use case ( both are largely striking weapons, while a spear is largely a thrusting weapon), but please correct me if I'm wrong.
Not only is the spear a great dueling weapon, but most definitely classifies as the *classic* polearm as it is on a *pole*.
As long as the guy isn't half a meter away, he's a relentless weapon.
@@valtenLbOz1495 Ohh I see, I think I mixed up polearms and poleaxes, my bad
It's an excellent weapon, as stabbing weapons are in general. It isn't good at point blank range, but that can be easily mitigated by keeping your distance and delivering mid-run stabs. The advantages of its range are far greater than the disadvantages.
Its main disadvantage is that it isn't a good "just in case" weapon. You can't carry it on your waist as a spare, or easily take it with you while traveling.
The Glaive is the western equivalent of the naginata.
I always thought spears were more . . . Stabby stabby - plus the length of the spear is its defense.
Though I could tell the knight was more used to using a longsword.
Someone thats somewhat knowledgeable on the matter, please correct me if I’m wrong but seeing as both are heavily armored, can’t the one knight just trap the slashy spear *yes that’s the technical term your just not reading the right manuals duh* and then just stab him with the staby spear
Next have them use a Super Nintendo vs Sega Genesis control pad...seriously
it's not different and not special anyways from using spear to naginata cuz you guys still being on the same tactics and movement on the armour, the japanese has their tactics movement on their Samurai armour
Why not put a tennis ball at the end of these things or something? Just so you can do the stabby stab. Why spar with weapons that are literally known for stabbing if you're just gonna waste it?
Perhaps this is the strangest manner of using a spear that I have seen. Perhaps this is HMB and it is forbidden to stab, but then why use a spear at all?
That's looks more like a partisan than a spear in terms of length and thickness.
I feel like if there wasnt rules, the knight could have easily just tucked into a football charge and stabbed the enemy
The problem is that he's using a piercing weapon as a slashing weapon, you're not going to get very far like that.
I wonder how real old wars were cuz we know armor wont be cut through with weapons so easily you gotta put alot of force into it but the first one to strike loses the time to wind up a heavy attack
Why do i get to see some poor fight. They both have poor skills just swinging the weapon at random
В реале копьё бы использовали как копьё то есть совершали колющие удары на расстоянии с интервалом в секунду
В этом и плюс копья нихрена учиться не нужно но оч эфективно в бою тем более один на один
Первый тычок с под шагом в корпус и и второй сходу подшаго с тычком в голову и одновременно прикрытие от удара с боку или с верху которое открывает брешь для удара снизу вверх всю в ту же голову которое позволяет провести сильно дальний удар сближая руки на древке в плотную
А он им бил как длинной палкой копьё копьём простота просто той но хоть что то то думать нужно
Начинать в разы легче клаья начиная с древка заканчивая лезвием режущая кромка как и само лезвие длиннее имееться изгиб для режущего окончания удара дабы орудие не застопорилось в теле врага при попадании она и расчитанна для таких вот ударов на расстоянии а копьё не для этого придумали им бл не рубят
Well, this is hardly a representation of what was going on back then. But still cool.
Whats the point of a spear if thrusting is against the rules? Wouldnt a poleaxe do better knowing that?
日本の武具でチャンバラする
ならちゃんと日本の戦い型でやれよ
まずは剣道受けないと日本の武具で戦う
資格などないと同じ
Another pointless exercise. if you're going to do it at least use the weapons correctly or don't do it
That armor would cost a fortune even for a noble armor of that quality depending on the time was rare
Halberd game play would be epic. BRING THE LAW
Ok what’s the point of having a spear if you don’t have it’s main advantage, stabbing
You know the one saying that has been around since the don of humankind? "Use the pointy end"
Should've just picked a staff or something
Imagine doing that all day. Must be comfortable. 😂
its spear? or axe? this dude are wood cutterman?
The samurai guy survived because the naginata gives plus 1 def and res
That fake spear would still go through that armor it's why he's using it as a sword
Naginata vs glaive would be better
Yari vs spear
Whats the point of the sport when you cant you the point of the spear?
Nadie ahí sabe cómo usar esas armas...tener la naginata hacia arriba es como apuntar un rifle al cielo y pretender amenazar al oponente...
Ma questi sono combattimenti? 🤣 penso che un soldato ai tempi valeva almeno 50 di questi
It's useless fight, you need to thrust when you are using the spear
i wonder if the spear start to stab and the naginata user swing really hard
That man with the spear forgot that he can stab.
日本の戦国時代の槍はしならせて攻撃します。しならせることでものすごい強力な攻撃ができ、鎧を破壊できます
Its all fun and games until the guy sitting at the side gets run through.
Мне кажется тут подошли удары из shafow fight 2 :)
its always the same the knight wins at the start and samurai adapts
For honor literally
Why isn’t he aiming for the thighs, it’s unarmored
No offense guys, but stick to swords or practice
Shoulda used a bo staff with leather point to allow stabs
Good to see this dude has no idea how to use a naginata
No idea why the spear user is not utilizing his reach
🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ what in the nerd alert
U kinda remind me shadow fight 2
甲冑は日本を意識しているようですが、薙刀？に見える長柄武器には鍔がないですね
If you don't use a Niganata as it was build...
Yari vs spear. Which makes it spear vs spear.
Awesome
Он серьёзно использует копьё как глефу?
Why did the spear guy not get a glaive lol
Bring back the arena we need blood!!
Why are they hitting each other's armor
Lawbringer vs Nobuschi
Get in close a butt him with the stalk 😂
Where is the leg armor on the samurai?
Bro really got bonked
Spears not a spear if you can’t stab
Create some distance my guy
Empuñar una lanza y no por usar la tremendo 😮
Hyper armor is what they need
This was painful to watch
Bro who called this a spear
Bro it's a spear not a mace!
That’s not how you use Naginata. It shouldn’t be so close to one’s body. It’s a Katana with longer handle he should extend his arms and create distance between enemy and make swift cuts during enemy opening.