Agreed. Hollywood would benefit from having this team train actors and provide superb scenes full of classical skills and efforts in any such film. You can make excellent, high skill action on a shoestring budget. This team needs its recognition.
I'm still waiting for hollywood to catch on that putting actual swordplay in their movies would be as successful as putting actual gunfighting in there.
The way the heavier fighter leverages his weight to his advantage by using grapples is a brilliant touch. A swordsman is more than his sword, and that rarely comes across in media.
Yeah I hold a Judo Black belt in way to many `swordfight's` do people get face too face without grappling, these people were not playing this was life or death to them they must have been skilled grapplers able to use a full range of ranges and combat tactics, able to see past the blade to the larger fight itself the practice at the start shows advanced grappling to position the blade. wonderful fight scene.
A very basic rule, as far as I can tell, from West all the way to the East, is if you are not confident - scratch that, not proven - in your ability to control and win a fight using your body, and your body alone, you have no business picking up a weapon. It is ludicrous to me how many people do not understand why...
This wasn't _just_ a good fight, it was _also_ a well-written scene. This is one of the best short-form visual stories I've ever had the pleasure of experiencing, thank you for this.
I could not agree more. Given the short time frame we have to see all the characters, each REALLY stands out as a clear individual. You can tell within only a few short moments what the role of each person is. Well done!
I love that the fatal cuts didn't look or sound overdone. Very quick and uninterrupted, which really speaks to the effortless killing power of a heavy blade.
Doesnt have to be heavy. Its sharp. with proper edge alignment you can take someones arm off with ery little "effort". When you cut right, it feels like you didnt do anything at all.
falchions/messers were super thin, unlike most machetes - they were specialized against light armor such as a padded gambeson. some, such as the conyers’ falchion were larger
@@StraivtorS It's not just a factor of sharpness either. It's a factor of force along with the cutting edge. Mass also can play a role (more mass/weight behind the cut equals more force). That said; You'd have a hell of a time cleanly cutting off an arm or leg with a standard kitchen knife. Takes a blade with a bit more force and leverage to cut through an arm or leg bone. Not that you'd need to in order for the cut to be fatal.
Skallagrim brought me here. Well done, to all involved. The pacing, the shots, the actually shockingly realistic VFX and most importantly, the fighting itself, all choreographed with more care than even Hollywood could muster. Kudos.
Not only does this choreography based on real technique feel better to watch than the usual fight choreography we see in media, but it also offers a lot of re-watchability because there's so much you might never notice in the fight the first time around.
Two things I loved about this. 1-I love how the fight tells its own story and how in just under five minutes, it shows growth and development of the protagonist 2-I cannot stand Hollywood films with shaky cams and jump cuts. They're sloppy, hard to make out and they leave me with a headache. You guys let the choreography breathe and I absolutely love it.
Jumps cuts and shaky cam are suppose to signify "Action" but often it's just used to cover up sloppy performance by the actors. Not the stuntmen, the Actors. My friend is a camera operator in Hollywood and said half the Actors are great to work with, and the other half are horrible, doesn't matter if they are famous or not. They just come on set late, have to be prompted for every line, and don't know their choreography whatsoever. Not just fights, apparently even WALKING is choreographed due to placement of the cameras. He won't give any names though, his Union keeps that stuff secret, sad :(. He also quit doing movies and now only works on reality shows because the pay is the same, but the people are 100x better haha.
@@VFella because actors and actresses need to train fencing in order to not injure each other, old movies had just that, performers who knew what they were doing.
@@cannabico6621There are actors that do it. As an actor, your job is to play a part so it totally reasonable to expect actors to learn a skill. It would hardly be the first time. Tom Cruise does all his stunts, there are many actors who are also martial artists, and even if we look at say Marvel films, the actors ensure their bodies are in peak physical shape where necessary. Ultimately you can also use stunt doubles if you need to who would have the training needed. Look at Star wars for instance, the throne room fight scene. There was no excuse because they had several trained stuntmen in there who had plenty of time to train the actors as well but the fight was so poorly choreographed even by the stuntmen themselves who do twirls for no reason and miss many of their swings.
@@Espen_Danielsen Don't think that was the point. The point seems to be that his instructor valued training his weak hand, too, in case something unexpected happened. And it did, so the fighter was able to draw on his rigorous training.
@@alessandrolizzio6338that is erroneous...messers wouldn't have a section of the back forged in and sharpened from 5 or 6 inches all the way to nearly half the blade in some examples if it wasn't intended to be used in offensive techniques.
@alessandrolizzio6338 mr.e.t.2701 is correct. Besides, even if there was no edge, there's nothing stopping you from attacking with that part if that's the opening you have.
It was truly fuckin' beautiful. But yeah. The moment blondie was bleeding, he was done. He was confident throughout the entirety of the duel, declining to frustrated, at worst, but the nanosecond he starts leaking, his entire demeanor crumbles. God, just a really fucking good scene.
Being an ambidextrous fighter is really useful in the sense that some people have no idea how to handle it. I used to take Kali lessons and during sparring if I swapped hands it became easy to get hits because people just didn't know how to defend against the left as well as right.
@@AdoreaOlomouc LOVED IT! The principles used are: HE want's to KILL ME and I will use ANY means that HE dies. IF, you find yourself in a fair fight, you've done something wrong. Masters...
Yeah, especially the protagonist, who doesn't initially seem to have a very sporting physique, but then demonstrates great athletic ability in the fight! Don't judge a book by its cover. 8)
@@Blokewood3 well, you saw how it was correctly done and thus very possible here. I have a shorter, real Messer myself, and it has a sharpened "false edge" but many do not. Still, with a roll and twist of the wrist, you can go from a forward slash to an immediate backhand strike that utilizes the spine of the blade which can easily do quite a bit of damage to someones head or even hand or arm. Its frankly hard to see it coming too when its done right. These messers had no false edges but probably had fairly thick blade profiles at the spine side and they would be squared meaning it'd be easy to split someones scalp open or even probably crack a skull with messers that size. Watch the training at the start. They actually utilize the back side of the training swords for the whole warm up segment.
In 5 minutes you told a better story than a season anything you can currently binge on netflix. You had me rooting for a guy and wondering what happened in his life that got him in this predicament. Eventually his understanding that his talent was greater than his original confidence showed was right up there with Daniel larusso's "wax on/wax off" scene.
I'd say, he was not "not confident enough" on his talent - simply he was not _overconfident,_ thus his training before the duel. The one who _was_ overconfident? The one who was trashed.
I love the silent storytelling in this duel. So much more interesting than some of the fiction I've seen recently where the characters never shut up only to have a subpar fight at best. Amazingly well done.
That was pretty clever how when he's training, his master (sorry if it has a different name I don't know) prepares him to fight with both hands, so when he gets injured on his right arm I immediately heard in my brain "now with the left hand" such a small detail but it made the whole sequence much better. I looove your content
My head canon, is that he actually was left-handed, but because being left handed was very taboo at the time he was always forced to fight with his right. That's why he was struggling against the master at the beginning and why the fight ended so quickly once he switched hands.
You might say master, or instructor, or it may just be a more experienced friend lending his time to help a buddy who is in a tight spot. Regarding the decision to practice with both hands, I will absolutely agree it is a wise one.
Remind me of a friend of mine that plays guitar right handed... But he's actually left handed. When he switches to his left he can play stuff like Bark at the Moon and add a bunch of notes whereas with his right he can only play it standard.
@@thorne1239 you ever fence a lefty? it's no surprise he beat him handily (pun intended) when you fight against a lefty all your training actually works against you.
I like to interpret that his mentor knew his pupils opponent's style and over-confidence. The pupil was actually left hand dominant, making him appear the lesser swordsman, and trained rigorously to be decent with his right, which cost him a gash on the wrist, but also a notch on his hilt! well done!
This is quite literally one of the best sword fights I've seen. It manages to perfectly balance realism and a bit of flashy choreography for the shot. I love how it shows that all it takes is a cut to the arm to incapacitate that limb, something that many sword fight scenes ignore. It's awesome!
Nicely done! I like the detail when the older duelist switched to left hand and the less experienced but younger duelist immediately lost his edge. The young duelist's body and techniques are accustomed and honed to fighting right-handed opponents.
What I like about you guys is even with the HEMA inspirations, you understand cinematic combat is a dance. It's meant to be exaggerated and expressive. When your describing fighting for a story, you want it to be engaging more than anything else. And so you guys always have fun crafting great fights with cool moments and don't let too much realism drag down the flow.
I wouldn't say it was exaggerated, while you may watch people spar and see that exchanges end somewhat quickly, you must also realize that a single hit doesn't always end the fight. Meaning a real sword fight may be a combination of 2 or 3 of the exchanges you see when people spar, assuming the hit isn't fatal or immediately incapacitating.
I don’t think you know what a realistic fight looks like. You are probably confusing army battles with duels. There is literally nothing exaggerated about this.
We're often given the excuse by film makers that "realistic" sword combat does not translate well on the big screen. You have just changed the game, my friends. Forever. This is astonishing work.
That's the boilerplate excuse they give because the actual truth of the matter, at least in Hollywood, is all stage fencing is controlled by a guild. They protect their stage foil fencing style very doggedly, and likely fight quite hard behind the scenes to ensure nothing better ever replaces them on film.
A fight scene needs to show the characters' personality, skill level and state of mind, and you did all this without detracting from the choreography. Now I want to know what the duel was about...
Just a couple lines of dialogue, but tells a better story with more fleshed-out characters than the vast majority of television and movies. This is "show, don't tell" executed wonderfully.
Yeah, every cut aimed for something important, not just bashing at each others swords, the ones that dont land are actually defended, and threaten back at the same time. From a cinematics point of view,, you instantly get who each character is from the way they launch their attacks. Bravo!
@@TheChromeRonin totally. And it doesn't look choreographed. It looks like they are partially forgetting their training and fighting for thier lives. And it is very well filmed and edited (speaking from a former editors point of view). Not one cut more than necessary. You always know what's going on. Really well done.
amazing! The story as I read it: A middle-aged man is training with a master in the courtyard of a castle. The he clearly is struggling but doesn't stop or rest, this is important to him. A herald calls them inside, it is time for the duel. We are introduced to the lord of the manor (or a judge? a magistrate? some kind of powerful witness.) and the young opponent. He is fit, well dressed, arrogant. I get the impression that the Lord (or judge?) is closer to the younger man, but is not happy with him. He is probably he is in the wrong and everyone knows it. The young man might be a relative of the lord, or just has higher social status than his opponent. The older man seems to be of lower status but must have some resources because he found a skilled master to teach him. The younger man's superior fitness helps him to control the fight at first but the superior training and tenacity of the elder helps him find an opening. Once he is wounded, the younger man loses his cool and is overwhelmed, unable to recover. The Lord might have supported the younger man at first but acknowledges the victory, assuring the winner that he will hold no grudge.
I think the director desieves us. We were lead to believe the old man is not a good swordsman. Apparently he was but he was left-handed. He did not want to kill a young guy so he started with the wrong hand.
@@717pixels9 trainer says "now left handed" at 1:09. Seems like they are training with both hands. Later at 3:41 the trainer reminds him about his left hand with a gesture. The implication is that he is saying "you aren't beaten yet" My read is that the guy isn't left handed but he has trained left handed enough to do so in a pinch. The parallel here is to how one fighter overcomes his injury while the other crumbles. They really do layer a lot of little details into such a short video. Thanks for inspiring me to watch it again!
Obviously good choreography and production, but also major props for conveying the dynamics between these characters and their personality without any dialogue!
The contrast of choreography in the training scene at the beggining, where the fechtmaster his student were both confident (even if student rather dissapointed in himself) that with wooden swords they cant get hurt, showing perfect movements into the "real" fight that was fast, crude amd very crude in its natural non polished movements is very, VERY impressive. No fancy spins and tricks, isntead the primal fight for survival of both actors is what makes this scenic demosntration absolutely believable nad beautiful yet scary at the same time, when the viewer realizes that there was a time in the past when moments such as this one decided about life or death of the two rivals.
A very interesting knife-fight! I liked the characterisation. It was the more hesitant, unsure man who won, because he wasn't foolish enough to underestimate his adversary.
All these youtube reactors that are "expert swordsmen" or whatever. We got to get them checking out the work of these guys. Adorea deserves all the attention it can get. If I had a show, I would do whatever I could to get this team to choreograph every sword fight.
@@Szabla1595 Faced a few big dudes when I was playing kendo, felt like being mauled over and over by a 18 wheeler, albeit I arm sniped the ever living f out of them, it still feels like I can never get an upper hand, power alone is oppressive enough, when paired with speed and skill, it's terrifing.
Combat sports are there own beast. If we are talking about power, bigger is always better, IDC how much BJJ experience you have, your not out grappling someone double your body weight if you don't have God level muscle and experience. Then as for mobility, study abit of sumo and you will realize size has no relationship with flexibility, it's all about how consistent you are with your stretches. The main issue with high mass for power builds, is you get gassed out way faster. While smaller guys will have more mobility and stanima, just one hit and your a gonner. Watch Connor vs mountain and you will see what im talking about
What an awesome short film. In 4 min and 25 seconds you guys told a better story and had better choreography than most feature films that come out these days. Awesome job!
I think i watched this viedo the 15th time. Its one of the best fight scenes ever, period. It tell a whole story so good. So much Emotion and epic fighting. I wish you guys would be in charge of every fight scen in. Any movie or series.
@@reppich1 it's hard to say that without going into the historical source material from Meyer & Sutor, etc. More than what is in "Schools & Masters of Fence". But that is the look they are going for, right down to the dress style and the practice swords. A lot of modern HEMA doesn't look particulary historical to me...there's lots of modern fencing and dashes of martial arts in there. For all we know, it was slower, more controlled and much more cautious, with a whole heap of "gentlemans rules".
@@jasongultjaeff9397 - It is not hard. Hutton was just over a century ago, the last definitive work author. FTR most of the footwork is not in the manuals, they all left things out so a person would have to seek them out for lessons. Books themselves were an upper class thing and used mostly as advertisements.
Way better than ANY Hollywood fighting scenes. You dont need to compensate the actor's bad fighting skills with wobbling camera and short cuts. The fight is clearly visible and understandable. And it is much more enjoyable! Great job!
You hit on an important factor there. I worked in Hollywood as a sword Stuntman. The issues are, the principle actors are not trained swordsmen like these men. Not in anyway defending Hollywood historical combat scenes, 99% of them are dreadful, but there are reasons for some of the terribleness.
@@thecocktailian2091 There’s a handful of movies where you can tell they really put a lot of work into the sword fighting, one of my favorites is the Tyrone Power Zorro movie. The final sword fight with Basil Rathbone (a trained fencer) is incredible. Too few filmmakers put forth the effort to make immersive fight scenes.
I can't stop watching this! Your fight choreography is always great, but the story for this really popped. Compliments to the actors, writers, and director for conveying so much with so little dialogue. We had a wonderful sense of who these characters were with almost no spoken lines at all!
Incredible video. On top of all the obvious things like choreography and story, which are all amazing, I was also shocked by how beautiful those two messers are. Absolutely stunning.
The fighting choreographers, set designers, and costuming departments of SO many major movie labels could learn volumes from you, with your attention to detail and historical accuracy, as well as your ability to tell a whole story in very very few words. Your work is simply amazing, and you are an inspiration !
Your videos are obviously brilliantly choreographed but what I always really appreciate is the context the duels are placed in is always authentic and compelling
I don't know what else to say except to sincerely thank you for your time, effort, and skill in repeatedly proving that this is what everyone actually wants, they just didn't have a way to explain it with words. Now you continuously provide it in videos that prove over and over again that this is the representation of battle that respects us as a species, respects our history, and respects the storytelling and prowess of everyone involved.
It's a perfect drama just like a Sheakspear's piece. It leaves the audience with thoughts and guesses what happened between the two guys and this is the beauty of the scene.
That was so good, and realistic. What I hate about a lot of fights is that the death is drawn out, experts always say that a fight is usually over relatively quickly, especially in Japan as the last cut is usually done in seconds. But this fight still managed to make the fight realistic and entertaining, while paying homage to what killing a man is actually like.
The fight choreography is amazing, obviously. But the acting, wardrobe and set are also incredibly professional. A whole background story is being implied just from bodylanguage and facial expressions..
You guys just always deliver top quality swordfights along with some delicate, background, mostly unspoken story. What can I say, this is youtube and even in 2022/2023 there're gems still to be found by a wider audience! And that's my wish for you in the coming year: grow bigger still doing what you love so much❤
So beautiful this seemingly chaos of a fight. Its clear that is choreographed, but the magic of this is that it seems so random and very life-threatining like, it gives it the best feeling of a real fight, everyone is putting their lives on the table. Simply beautiful to see something fresh, keet it on guys! Glad youtube reccomended this
One of the best I’ve seen. Loved that the fight also reflected the characters themselves. One cocky and fit, the other doubting his abilities, but realising gradually that he had the upper hand.
This is an absolute masterpiece! You guys should be choreographing historical movies. I don't want to say in Hollywood, because it stopped producing good movies a long time ago. Poland has a rich history of historical moviemaking and I would be looking forward to watching.
Бодро! И очень красиво! ЭКспозиция героев мне особенно понравилась! Актёров подобрали шикарных! Очень колоритных и очень подходящих на свои роли! Всему творческому коллективу моё крайнее уважение! Wielkie dzięki, panowie
Made me worry about him in the end, as he just tuned back on his defeated yet malicious opponent. Glad it ended well! Thanks for a good story and brilliant choreography! I'll definitely watch this a lot more.
Simply amazing! Your ability to tell a narrative through action without even the need for words is unmatched on RUclips from what I have seen. Cheers and happy holidays. 💚
wow... that was awesome! this is exactly how i would imagine a real sword fight not attacking just the weapon like in movies you see how they want to wound/hurt/kill each other damn briliant.. you deserve a like and a subscription!
Great little story of the underdog, compacted into less than five minutes, told with no dialogue. The fight scene was the icing on the cake. Something to be proud of. I keep coming back to it.
Holy cow that was seriously amazing. It was like Westley v Indigo meets Rob Roy v Archibald. The whole duel-shark element was on point also (don't think I've heard anyone use that term before, but it seems appropriate in this case). Looking forward to the next one!
When the bigger lad scoops his leg out from under him and slams the other dude to the floor. Such wonderful realism. A good reminder that a fight is a fight. Brawling is never above anyone in a fight to the death.
Brilliant on all accounts, as always. Really hoping you guys find even greater success, because if any stage guild deserves it, I would believe it to be you guys. Much love from the USA.
Bro, i know this may sound weird but i think i selected your comment by accident when i was trying to denounce some other guy for disinformation, i'm sorry 😔.
Guys, that was amazing. You did it. You have really taken your writing, and choreography to the next level. This is it. Nothing out there is any better than this. This is the peak.
I love all your stuff, guys, but this is a level above. There is a story, there is Chekhov's gun at the end of the training sequence, and there are layers of meaning in the glances and the gestures of all the characters. Superb.
First time seeing anything from you guys. Gotta say i love the minimalist storytelling going on, letting pure action and body language do almost all of the work.
Wow! Very nicely done. I've been doing HEMA for 18 years, and this is one of the best choreographies I've seen. You just got a new subscriber too. Well done!
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This was amazing keep up the good work
@@dorukanylmazkulas1538 Thank you so much!
That was unreal! Very cool!
If you all choreographed all sword fights in all movies from here on out I would never be disappointed.
These are big sweet dreams :)
Agreed. Hollywood would benefit from having this team train actors and provide superb scenes full of classical skills and efforts in any such film. You can make excellent, high skill action on a shoestring budget. This team needs its recognition.
So true
Indeed, proof that fight choreography can be authentic and still entertaining.
I'm still waiting for hollywood to catch on that putting actual swordplay in their movies would be as successful as putting actual gunfighting in there.
The way the heavier fighter leverages his weight to his advantage by using grapples is a brilliant touch. A swordsman is more than his sword, and that rarely comes across in media.
Yeah I hold a Judo Black belt in way to many `swordfight's` do people get face too face without grappling, these people were not playing this was life or death to them they must have been skilled grapplers able to use a full range of ranges and combat tactics, able to see past the blade to the larger fight itself the practice at the start shows advanced grappling to position the blade. wonderful fight scene.
Okay, where do you guys learn that? I want that too, just can't find any comprehensive tutorials
@@boxoffun2148 At a dojo
A very basic rule, as far as I can tell, from West all the way to the East, is if you are not confident - scratch that, not proven - in your ability to control and win a fight using your body, and your body alone, you have no business picking up a weapon.
It is ludicrous to me how many people do not understand why...
There s not a single duellist who is not afraid before a duel exept sociopaths. A lot of Roman legionaries shit their pants before battle.
This wasn't _just_ a good fight, it was _also_ a well-written scene. This is one of the best short-form visual stories I've ever had the pleasure of experiencing, thank you for this.
And we thank you for your words, we are glad for them.
I was going to reply this exact comment, but I give this one a like instead
@@karlhauser893 Hear hear.
I could not agree more. Given the short time frame we have to see all the characters, each REALLY stands out as a clear individual. You can tell within only a few short moments what the role of each person is.
Well done!
I love that the fatal cuts didn't look or sound overdone. Very quick and uninterrupted, which really speaks to the effortless killing power of a heavy blade.
Doesnt have to be heavy. Its sharp. with proper edge alignment you can take someones arm off with ery little "effort". When you cut right, it feels like you didnt do anything at all.
Between only 1 and 1.5 kilos (2.2-3.3 lbs). A little more than a quart of milk.
falchions/messers were super thin, unlike most machetes - they were specialized against light armor such as a padded gambeson. some, such as the conyers’ falchion were larger
@@TheChromeRoninsecond that. A properly sharpen kitchen knife can server limps with not that much effort. It just doesn't have reach like swords.
@@StraivtorS It's not just a factor of sharpness either. It's a factor of force along with the cutting edge. Mass also can play a role (more mass/weight behind the cut equals more force).
That said; You'd have a hell of a time cleanly cutting off an arm or leg with a standard kitchen knife. Takes a blade with a bit more force and leverage to cut through an arm or leg bone. Not that you'd need to in order for the cut to be fatal.
Skallagrim brought me here. Well done, to all involved. The pacing, the shots, the actually shockingly realistic VFX and most importantly, the fighting itself, all choreographed with more care than even Hollywood could muster. Kudos.
Here, here. Same!
Same, incredibly well done! I look forward to seeing more from them.
Same here
Same with me. Awesome fight!
I was also brought here by Skal, and this was well worth it. Brilliant.
Not only does this choreography based on real technique feel better to watch than the usual fight choreography we see in media, but it also offers a lot of re-watchability because there's so much you might never notice in the fight the first time around.
Can't be long before someone edits it into a lightsaber version :D
Movies tend to cut wayyyy too much, it's infuriating. Let us see the whole thing play out like these two have just done
@@Hadrexus Movies cut a lot, because most of the time actors and even stuntmen are not trained at that level and they simply don't look as good.
Could be that truer words have not been spoken!
@@TrueForkit actually already exists! The corridor crew channel made a short movie on realistic lightsaber duels.
Two things I loved about this.
1-I love how the fight tells its own story and how in just under five minutes, it shows growth and development of the protagonist
2-I cannot stand Hollywood films with shaky cams and jump cuts. They're sloppy, hard to make out and they leave me with a headache. You guys let the choreography breathe and I absolutely love it.
Jumps cuts and shaky cam are suppose to signify "Action" but often it's just used to cover up sloppy performance by the actors. Not the stuntmen, the Actors. My friend is a camera operator in Hollywood and said half the Actors are great to work with, and the other half are horrible, doesn't matter if they are famous or not. They just come on set late, have to be prompted for every line, and don't know their choreography whatsoever. Not just fights, apparently even WALKING is choreographed due to placement of the cameras. He won't give any names though, his Union keeps that stuff secret, sad :(. He also quit doing movies and now only works on reality shows because the pay is the same, but the people are 100x better haha.
Yeah, why can't we see fights like this one in the movies?
And the hyper-close cams.
@@VFella because actors and actresses need to train fencing in order to not injure each other, old movies had just that, performers who knew what they were doing.
@@cannabico6621There are actors that do it. As an actor, your job is to play a part so it totally reasonable to expect actors to learn a skill. It would hardly be the first time. Tom Cruise does all his stunts, there are many actors who are also martial artists, and even if we look at say Marvel films, the actors ensure their bodies are in peak physical shape where necessary. Ultimately you can also use stunt doubles if you need to who would have the training needed.
Look at Star wars for instance, the throne room fight scene. There was no excuse because they had several trained stuntmen in there who had plenty of time to train the actors as well but the fight was so poorly choreographed even by the stuntmen themselves who do twirls for no reason and miss many of their swings.
Excellent storytelling. As the swordsman looked down on his fallen blade, grasping his bleeding arm, I actually said "now, left-handed"
Love how it becomes apparent the he was a leftie all along, and needed the extra training for using his right.
I also said that! Nice!
Heyo wtf, Jarv?
Give QBZ my regards.
@@Espen_Danielsen If so it’s pretty gutsy to go into a fight to the death not using your strong hand. Perhaps he truly is ambidextrous.
@@Espen_Danielsen Don't think that was the point. The point seems to be that his instructor valued training his weak hand, too, in case something unexpected happened. And it did, so the fighter was able to draw on his rigorous training.
Seeing a false-edge cut being not only delivered, but connecting made my day.
You guys never cease to amaze!
Messers are single edged you can use the false edege to block or deflect not to attack
@@alessandrolizzio6338 Get rapped in the face by a false edge, then come back and repeat that.
@@alessandrolizzio6338that is erroneous...messers wouldn't have a section of the back forged in and sharpened from 5 or 6 inches all the way to nearly half the blade in some examples if it wasn't intended to be used in offensive techniques.
@@mr.e.t.2701 perhaps i am mistaken, i based my comment on my sight not on research, i apoligize for the misinformation.
@alessandrolizzio6338
mr.e.t.2701 is correct. Besides, even if there was no edge, there's nothing stopping you from attacking with that part if that's the opening you have.
I wasn't sure how they were going to make that left handed win look convincing, but that twisting slap to the forehead was masterful.
It was truly fuckin' beautiful. But yeah. The moment blondie was bleeding, he was done. He was confident throughout the entirety of the duel, declining to frustrated, at worst, but the nanosecond he starts leaking, his entire demeanor crumbles.
God, just a really fucking good scene.
Being an ambidextrous fighter is really useful in the sense that some people have no idea how to handle it. I used to take Kali lessons and during sparring if I swapped hands it became easy to get hits because people just didn't know how to defend against the left as well as right.
These two guys are incredible. The athleticism and footwork was like watching a talented boxer coupled with the sword skill. Hat off to you guys 👌👌
Thanks!
@@AdoreaOlomouc LOVED IT! The principles used are: HE want's to KILL ME and I will use ANY means that HE dies. IF, you find yourself in a fair fight, you've done something wrong. Masters...
They do it for a job - that's why they're videos are so good, they simply KNOW what they do :)
That is the real stuff they are doing. The training required takes years of mental and physical work
Yeah, especially the protagonist, who doesn't initially seem to have a very sporting physique, but then demonstrates great athletic ability in the fight! Don't judge a book by its cover. 8)
A BACKHAND blow from a GrossMesser?!? Almost like no one else in Hollywood knows about that part of the blade!
10/10 gents! I salute you!
Thanks!
I've never held a messer before, so I don't know, but aren't they single-edged? How is a backhanded blow possible with a single-edged sword?
@@Blokewood3
Some of them had a partially sharpened false edge.
Some where completly blunt on the false edge
@@mikeschannel2024 Thanks, I didn't know that.
@@Blokewood3 well, you saw how it was correctly done and thus very possible here. I have a shorter, real Messer myself, and it has a sharpened "false edge" but many do not. Still, with a roll and twist of the wrist, you can go from a forward slash to an immediate backhand strike that utilizes the spine of the blade which can easily do quite a bit of damage to someones head or even hand or arm. Its frankly hard to see it coming too when its done right.
These messers had no false edges but probably had fairly thick blade profiles at the spine side and they would be squared meaning it'd be easy to split someones scalp open or even probably crack a skull with messers that size.
Watch the training at the start. They actually utilize the back side of the training swords for the whole warm up segment.
In 5 minutes you told a better story than a season anything you can currently binge on netflix. You had me rooting for a guy and wondering what happened in his life that got him in this predicament. Eventually his understanding that his talent was greater than his original confidence showed was right up there with Daniel larusso's "wax on/wax off" scene.
No lie I was sitting here thinking the exact same thing while watching this, truly remarkable. Honestly can't say enough good things about it.
I'd say, he was not "not confident enough" on his talent - simply he was not _overconfident,_ thus his training before the duel. The one who _was_ overconfident? The one who was trashed.
He was ready to fight to the end. And he won.
100% truth
Thank you guys! Its our big pleasure to read it.
I love the silent storytelling in this duel. So much more interesting than some of the fiction I've seen recently where the characters never shut up only to have a subpar fight at best. Amazingly well done.
Переживал за большого парня, как за самого себя. Бой классный, хореография поединка на высоте. Молодцы, снято с душой и знанием предмета.
That was pretty clever how when he's training, his master (sorry if it has a different name I don't know) prepares him to fight with both hands, so when he gets injured on his right arm I immediately heard in my brain "now with the left hand" such a small detail but it made the whole sequence much better. I looove your content
My head canon, is that he actually was left-handed, but because being left handed was very taboo at the time he was always forced to fight with his right. That's why he was struggling against the master at the beginning and why the fight ended so quickly once he switched hands.
i heard the same in my head haha
You might say master, or instructor, or it may just be a more experienced friend lending his time to help a buddy who is in a tight spot.
Regarding the decision to practice with both hands, I will absolutely agree it is a wise one.
Remind me of a friend of mine that plays guitar right handed... But he's actually left handed. When he switches to his left he can play stuff like Bark at the Moon and add a bunch of notes whereas with his right he can only play it standard.
@@thorne1239 you ever fence a lefty? it's no surprise he beat him handily (pun intended) when you fight against a lefty all your training actually works against you.
You guys never fail to impress. Speed, technique, surroundings... absolutely marvellous.
Thanks! We will tell to guys!
They are also acting well (or decently and consistently)
I like to interpret that his mentor knew his pupils opponent's style and over-confidence. The pupil was actually left hand dominant, making him appear the lesser swordsman, and trained rigorously to be decent with his right, which cost him a gash on the wrist, but also a notch on his hilt! well done!
This is quite literally one of the best sword fights I've seen. It manages to perfectly balance realism and a bit of flashy choreography for the shot. I love how it shows that all it takes is a cut to the arm to incapacitate that limb, something that many sword fight scenes ignore. It's awesome!
Nicely done! I like the detail when the older duelist switched to left hand and the less experienced but younger duelist immediately lost his edge. The young duelist's body and techniques are accustomed and honed to fighting right-handed opponents.
Great choreography as always gents. Kudos to being able to tell a story that transcends language barriers. Love the footwork, costumes and emotion.
Stay with us :)
What I like about you guys is even with the HEMA inspirations, you understand cinematic combat is a dance. It's meant to be exaggerated and expressive. When your describing fighting for a story, you want it to be engaging more than anything else. And so you guys always have fun crafting great fights with cool moments and don't let too much realism drag down the flow.
Everyone who says that real combat would be boring in films should watch the video along with this comment
I wouldn't say it was exaggerated, while you may watch people spar and see that exchanges end somewhat quickly, you must also realize that a single hit doesn't always end the fight. Meaning a real sword fight may be a combination of 2 or 3 of the exchanges you see when people spar, assuming the hit isn't fatal or immediately incapacitating.
I don’t think you know what a realistic fight looks like. You are probably confusing army battles with duels. There is literally nothing exaggerated about this.
Definitely. The trick is to have the exaggerated, expressive dance AND have it a fast enough tempo to make it look real. They nailed that balance IMO.
@@unclebob540i3 It isn't exaggerated, it is perfectly realistic.
We're often given the excuse by film makers that "realistic" sword combat does not translate well on the big screen.
You have just changed the game, my friends. Forever.
This is astonishing work.
That's the boilerplate excuse they give because the actual truth of the matter, at least in Hollywood, is all stage fencing is controlled by a guild. They protect their stage foil fencing style very doggedly, and likely fight quite hard behind the scenes to ensure nothing better ever replaces them on film.
Thank you for your words of appreciation. We are so glad for that!
@@thisdude9363 sounds typicall for Illuminati and the likes of those that precious knowledge is protected for personal gain
A fight scene needs to show the characters' personality, skill level and state of mind, and you did all this without detracting from the choreography. Now I want to know what the duel was about...
@@TrueFork Thank you. And, about your question - Who knows, maybe something big, maybe just a pointless and petty death :)
Just a couple lines of dialogue, but tells a better story with more fleshed-out characters than the vast majority of television and movies. This is "show, don't tell" executed wonderfully.
This is so intense. I especially like how perfectly imperfect the moves are.
Just a realistic fight.
Really great work!
Yeah, every cut aimed for something important, not just bashing at each others swords, the ones that dont land are actually defended, and threaten back at the same time. From a cinematics point of view,, you instantly get who each character is from the way they launch their attacks. Bravo!
@@TheChromeRonin totally. And it doesn't look choreographed. It looks like they are partially forgetting their training and fighting for thier lives. And it is very well filmed and edited (speaking from a former editors point of view). Not one cut more than necessary. You always know what's going on.
Really well done.
amazing!
The story as I read it:
A middle-aged man is training with a master in the courtyard of a castle. The he clearly is struggling but doesn't stop or rest, this is important to him.
A herald calls them inside, it is time for the duel.
We are introduced to the lord of the manor (or a judge? a magistrate? some kind of powerful witness.) and the young opponent. He is fit, well dressed, arrogant.
I get the impression that the Lord (or judge?) is closer to the younger man, but is not happy with him. He is probably he is in the wrong and everyone knows it.
The young man might be a relative of the lord, or just has higher social status than his opponent.
The older man seems to be of lower status but must have some resources because he found a skilled master to teach him.
The younger man's superior fitness helps him to control the fight at first but the superior training and tenacity of the elder helps him find an opening. Once he is wounded, the younger man loses his cool and is overwhelmed, unable to recover. The Lord might have supported the younger man at first but acknowledges the victory, assuring the winner that he will hold no grudge.
I think the director desieves us. We were lead to believe the old man is not a good swordsman. Apparently he was but he was left-handed. He did not want to kill a young guy so he started with the wrong hand.
@@717pixels9 trainer says "now left handed" at 1:09. Seems like they are training with both hands. Later at 3:41 the trainer reminds him about his left hand with a gesture. The implication is that he is saying "you aren't beaten yet"
My read is that the guy isn't left handed but he has trained left handed enough to do so in a pinch. The parallel here is to how one fighter overcomes his injury while the other crumbles. They really do layer a lot of little details into such a short video.
Thanks for inspiring me to watch it again!
Obviously good choreography and production, but also major props for conveying the dynamics between these characters and their personality without any dialogue!
Legit. Made me super intrigued to know what the duel was about and why this guy, who was obviously not wanting to duel, was forced into it.
I actually didn’t realise they didn’t speak until I saw your comment. Yep, quality work.
The contrast of choreography in the training scene at the beggining, where the fechtmaster his student were both confident (even if student rather dissapointed in himself) that with wooden swords they cant get hurt, showing perfect movements into the "real" fight that was fast, crude amd very crude in its natural non polished movements is very, VERY impressive. No fancy spins and tricks, isntead the primal fight for survival of both actors is what makes this scenic demosntration absolutely believable nad beautiful yet scary at the same time, when the viewer realizes that there was a time in the past when moments such as this one decided about life or death of the two rivals.
A very interesting knife-fight! I liked the characterisation. It was the more hesitant, unsure man who won, because he wasn't foolish enough to underestimate his adversary.
This is SO good! I am grateful to Skallagrim for bringing it to our attention. Subbed. looking forward to devouring all of your works.
All these youtube reactors that are "expert swordsmen" or whatever. We got to get them checking out the work of these guys. Adorea deserves all the attention it can get.
If I had a show, I would do whatever I could to get this team to choreograph every sword fight.
Thanks for that!
This was strangely uplifting to me. Makes me feel like even a relatively big guy like me can move like him with practice and training
Some of the scariest fencers I've fought are the big guys that know what they're doing. Speed AND power is a scary combo.
Petr is an amazing fighter
@@Szabla1595 Faced a few big dudes when I was playing kendo, felt like being mauled over and over by a 18 wheeler, albeit I arm sniped the ever living f out of them, it still feels like I can never get an upper hand, power alone is oppressive enough, when paired with speed and skill, it's terrifing.
Combat sports are there own beast. If we are talking about power, bigger is always better, IDC how much BJJ experience you have, your not out grappling someone double your body weight if you don't have God level muscle and experience.
Then as for mobility, study abit of sumo and you will realize size has no relationship with flexibility, it's all about how consistent you are with your stretches.
The main issue with high mass for power builds, is you get gassed out way faster. While smaller guys will have more mobility and stanima, just one hit and your a gonner.
Watch Connor vs mountain and you will see what im talking about
@@madmaxiemartialartsnerd485 Thanks for the advice!
What an awesome short film. In 4 min and 25 seconds you guys told a better story and had better choreography than most feature films that come out these days. Awesome job!
I think i watched this viedo the 15th time. Its one of the best fight scenes ever, period. It tell a whole story so good. So much Emotion and epic fighting. I wish you guys would be in charge of every fight scen in. Any movie or series.
When his arm was cut, I immediately knew he was going to go left-handed. That's great storytelling.
Absolutely exceptional! I love seeing HEMA go from very niche nearly 20 years ago to reaching a wider audience today.
that is not HEMA, that is F. Hutton style in action. With some footwork that is in no manuals.
@@reppich1 it's hard to say that without going into the historical source material from Meyer & Sutor, etc. More than what is in "Schools & Masters of Fence". But that is the look they are going for, right down to the dress style and the practice swords. A lot of modern HEMA doesn't look particulary historical to me...there's lots of modern fencing and dashes of martial arts in there. For all we know, it was slower, more controlled and much more cautious, with a whole heap of "gentlemans rules".
@@jasongultjaeff9397 - It is not hard. Hutton was just over a century ago, the last definitive work author. FTR most of the footwork is not in the manuals, they all left things out so a person would have to seek them out for lessons. Books themselves were an upper class thing and used mostly as advertisements.
Way better than ANY Hollywood fighting scenes. You dont need to compensate the actor's bad fighting skills with wobbling camera and short cuts. The fight is clearly visible and understandable. And it is much more enjoyable! Great job!
You hit on an important factor there. I worked in Hollywood as a sword Stuntman. The issues are, the principle actors are not trained swordsmen like these men. Not in anyway defending Hollywood historical combat scenes, 99% of them are dreadful, but there are reasons for some of the terribleness.
@@thecocktailian2091 There’s a handful of movies where you can tell they really put a lot of work into the sword fighting, one of my favorites is the Tyrone Power Zorro movie. The final sword fight with Basil Rathbone (a trained fencer) is incredible. Too few filmmakers put forth the effort to make immersive fight scenes.
@@JRRob3wn and few are just staged greatly )
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I can't stop watching this! Your fight choreography is always great, but the story for this really popped. Compliments to the actors, writers, and director for conveying so much with so little dialogue. We had a wonderful sense of who these characters were with almost no spoken lines at all!
We are so glad to see you reaction. Thank you!
That is how a sword fight should end in cinema, quickly and suspenseful - no dramatic slow-mo - that was cool.
Incredible video. On top of all the obvious things like choreography and story, which are all amazing, I was also shocked by how beautiful those two messers are. Absolutely stunning.
It's always a delight when you release new choreography. Each one feels like a vignette from a broader drama
Outstanding! Not just the swordsmanship, all of it. Well fought, well acted, well produced. 👏👏👏
Opět jste mi udělali radost a způsobili dobrou náladu. Moc pěkný počin. Děkuji pánové.
Děkujeme!
Probably my favorite sword fight yet, excellently done, all of it!
Thank you
The fighting choreographers, set designers, and costuming departments of SO many major movie labels could learn volumes from you, with your attention to detail and historical accuracy, as well as your ability to tell a whole story in very very few words.
Your work is simply amazing, and you are an inspiration !
Your videos are obviously brilliantly choreographed but what I always really appreciate is the context the duels are placed in is always authentic and compelling
This proofs that fight scenes don't need fancy CGI. Very well done and cool to look at even as someone who has no clue about sword/messer fighting.
I don't know what else to say except to sincerely thank you for your time, effort, and skill in repeatedly proving that this is what everyone actually wants, they just didn't have a way to explain it with words. Now you continuously provide it in videos that prove over and over again that this is the representation of battle that respects us as a species, respects our history, and respects the storytelling and prowess of everyone involved.
We are so glad you like our work!
Excellent footwork, swordplay, and the general production quality was also quite nice. It all seemed very authentic.
Well done.
Applause for the incredible scenery, story, fighting, travel back.
I honestly wish sword fights in movies looked like this. You guys always do an excellent job. Time to watch again
One of the most realistic sword fights you can imagine. A bit of dramatisation, but feels authentic
I wish you guys would direct every single ancient/medieval combat scene on movies and series from this day onward. These are just amazing...
It's a perfect drama just like a Sheakspear's piece. It leaves the audience with thoughts and guesses what happened between the two guys and this is the beauty of the scene.
Amazing storytelling and exquisit choreography. Thank you for this splendid display of swordsmanship.
That was so good, and realistic.
What I hate about a lot of fights is that the death is drawn out, experts always say that a fight is usually over relatively quickly, especially in Japan as the last cut is usually done in seconds.
But this fight still managed to make the fight realistic and entertaining, while paying homage to what killing a man is actually like.
The fight choreography is amazing, obviously. But the acting, wardrobe and set are also incredibly professional. A whole background story is being implied just from bodylanguage and facial expressions..
Awesome to see you guys collaborate with Adam Lytle. Two of the best European swordplay choreography teams in one video!
Bravo!!! The footwork alone is mindblowing! I just cant give enough praise to the people who gave us this video!
2 minutes in and this already takes a massive dump on anything that Hollywood has shat out in decades. Bravo!
One of the best choreographed duel I have ever seen. Bravo!
Thank you!
What can i say - an absolute joy to watch you guys spar it out on the highest level and in entertaining fashion.
That guy who played the antagonist did a fantastic job of being instantly unlikeable.
came here on Skallagrim's recommendation, was not disappointed! fantastic!
your skills are exactly what Hollywood and mocap studios need. Better looking more realistic fights means better movies, better cartoons, better games
You guys just always deliver top quality swordfights along with some delicate, background, mostly unspoken story. What can I say, this is youtube and even in 2022/2023 there're gems still to be found by a wider audience!
And that's my wish for you in the coming year: grow bigger still doing what you love so much❤
So beautiful this seemingly chaos of a fight. Its clear that is choreographed, but the magic of this is that it seems so random and very life-threatining like, it gives it the best feeling of a real fight, everyone is putting their lives on the table. Simply beautiful to see something fresh, keet it on guys! Glad youtube reccomended this
Apart from the fighting itself (I don't know enough to say more than it looked fantastic), the story telling itself was excellent. Well done!
Thanks!
First time ever seeing anything on this channel (randomly popped on my recommended). Legit awesome, subscribed.
That was very good! I couldn’t take my eyes off the screen. Well done.
Красивый бой, красивая постановка, режиссура и съемка. Молодцы!
One of the best sword fights ever. Awesome.
This was superb, great story told in less than 7 minutes, the swordplay was phenomenal
One of the best I’ve seen. Loved that the fight also reflected the characters themselves. One cocky and fit, the other doubting his abilities, but realising gradually that he had the upper hand.
This is an absolute masterpiece! You guys should be choreographing historical movies. I don't want to say in Hollywood, because it stopped producing good movies a long time ago. Poland has a rich history of historical moviemaking and I would be looking forward to watching.
Бодро! И очень красиво! ЭКспозиция героев мне особенно понравилась! Актёров подобрали шикарных! Очень колоритных и очень подходящих на свои роли! Всему творческому коллективу моё крайнее уважение! Wielkie dzięki, panowie
Если не сложно поясните мне... Кого по нации тут они представляли? Сами актёры поляки? Из за чего была могла быть дуэль? Кто этот главный за столом?
@@ramilshotykov6975 Не, вроде чехи. А нации не представляли - это средневековье, где важен твой герб, а не то, откуда ты родом.
@@ramilshotykov6975 В то время ещё не было наций,их ещё не "придумали",они появились несколько позже,по мере развития капитализма
We left handed are proud of this man.
He know now, how it feels like :D
Beautiful. As a former ARMA practitioner I applaud your work and effort to make it as authentic as possible.
Can sword fights last as long as this one does?
@@AlekseyMaksimovichPeshkov Yes, they can.
@@frenchgalloglass What? That's impossible 😂
@@AlekseyMaksimovichPeshkov did it happen? We don't know. Is it theoretically possible? Yes. It is extremely unlikely? Also, yes :)
That left hand detail was awesome. Good work.
That was one of the coolest things I've ever watched.
You guys have been getting a lot better at telling stories in addition to the duels! Keep it up!
Made me worry about him in the end, as he just tuned back on his defeated yet malicious opponent. Glad it ended well!
Thanks for a good story and brilliant choreography! I'll definitely watch this a lot more.
The cup was poisoned.
@@twinklefire7241 Had the same thought, yeah ;]
Simply amazing! Your ability to tell a narrative through action without even the need for words is unmatched on RUclips from what I have seen.
Cheers and happy holidays. 💚
wow... that was awesome! this is exactly how i would imagine a real sword fight
not attacking just the weapon like in movies you see how they want to wound/hurt/kill each other
damn briliant.. you deserve a like and a subscription!
Great little story of the underdog, compacted into less than five minutes, told with no dialogue. The fight scene was the icing on the cake. Something to be proud of. I keep coming back to it.
Holy cow that was seriously amazing. It was like Westley v Indigo meets Rob Roy v Archibald. The whole duel-shark element was on point also (don't think I've heard anyone use that term before, but it seems appropriate in this case). Looking forward to the next one!
When the bigger lad scoops his leg out from under him and slams the other dude to the floor. Such wonderful realism. A good reminder that a fight is a fight. Brawling is never above anyone in a fight to the death.
Brilliant on all accounts, as always. Really hoping you guys find even greater success, because if any stage guild deserves it, I would believe it to be you guys. Much love from the USA.
He was lefthanded the whole time. Those guys need to make a movie. They understand fighting with weapons and the importance of grapling.
Bro, i know this may sound weird but i think i selected your comment by accident when i was trying to denounce some other guy for disinformation, i'm sorry 😔.
Guys, that was amazing. You did it. You have really taken your writing, and choreography to the next level. This is it. Nothing out there is any better than this. This is the peak.
I love all your stuff, guys, but this is a level above. There is a story, there is Chekhov's gun at the end of the training sequence, and there are layers of meaning in the glances and the gestures of all the characters. Superb.
Absolutely outstanding! My compliments to everyone involved in the making of this incredible choreography.
Skallagrim sends his regards. Excellent film!
I love how much he enjoys that drink at the end. Such a good video
First time seeing anything from you guys. Gotta say i love the minimalist storytelling going on, letting pure action and body language do almost all of the work.
Wow! Very nicely done. I've been doing HEMA for 18 years, and this is one of the best choreographies I've seen. You just got a new subscriber too. Well done!
Thank you so much!!
Better than anything Hollywood has produced. Bravo!
Tak jsem to viděl podruhý a i podruhý to stálo za to! :-) Díky - na Vaší tvorbu se vždycky těšim.
Moc děkujeme!
That was superb, masterful storytelling 😎