The mindwashing is on an unbelievable level. Lgbthdtv gaslighted entire continents to believe they can get away with not just ignoring, but outright spitting in the face and insulting lifelong fans and customers.
Tell the customer they’re wrong/stupid for wanting/not wanting something. -> Act smug behind and computer screen and 1000’s of social media bot likes. -> Product comes out. -> Product doesn’t sell well. -> Gaslight that product is selling well. -> Quietly admit the product did not sell well. -> Deny any responsibility and blame a conspiracy of anti-customers. -> Go on a talk show or podcast and talk about how this experienced is “traumatizing”. -> Retire product. -> Repeat for next product.
They did that in the 1980s. The corpos claimed gaming was dead. Nintendo had to market its shit as a toy and even made a wierd Robot peripheral to get stores to carry it. After which they proved the issue was quality and not gaming
"Gamers are dead". Happened in 2016, they're just starting to notice the effects. Battlefield V missing its targets after getting tons of backlash from fans? Not a problem, they'll just double down and 2042 will be a total failure. Not a problem either. And here we are in 2024, AAA studios are rightfully burning and the vermin are jumping ship or being tossed off.
Wait, you mean to tell me bloating their budget, releasing games broken & buggy, hiring based on race/gender, and going out of the way to make their games as unappealing for their core consumers as possible is unsustainable?
Unethical and brutal work conditions. Shady bussiness decisions. Over relying on mass audiences that aren't gamers Making gaming as a service And other garbage bussiness crap The fact it only took things like the woke crap to help this collapse is astonishing.
@@darkzeroprojects4245I honestly don’t care if these people have to work crunch time. If you don’t like long hours in your career there are plenty of lower paying jobs with less benefits to work at.
Anti capitalist all, anti productive, no military industrial, no nuclear energy even if the power station is built 10 years ago same with coal power plants, agriculture needs to be stopped because it like everything else like the rainforest and swamps are emitting and absorbing carbon emissions, greenhouse gases that are greening the planet, primarily original source seems to be the USSR, Russia subversion efforts of there enemies, though the western leftist inside their institutions like education and media.
It all falls under one umbrella... Search up "Long March Through the Institutions" Also, look up New Discourses podcast by James Lindsay, which is specifically dedicated to this topic.
Its so funny, they absolutely refuse to acknowledge any of DEI and ESG's role in all this. People like Bellular, YongYea and their audience deny it if you bring it up.
ugh bellular and his constant excusing of bad devs and "oh woes the poor game devs that have not at all been stepping up" Just insufferable. whether annoyingly woke or not, These devs have not been doing a good job at all! This new problem within the gaming space where people don't seem to ever want to Criticize devs directly is kind of pathetic.
Bellular, i wish that guy got off my recommended page and yong "I EARNED KIRYU" yea, i feel like his vids are padded garbage just to hit the monetization threshold
This was inevitable once everyone started doing loot boxes and "live service" nonsense. It over-inflated the developers' employee counts and crushed the players' enthusiasm.
And what are these people think that the world is digital. The release something that sucks, and it continues to do well, so they assumed that they can release something that sucks. Well then they really something else, maybe they get a few less sales but it's still lots. Eventually, they're not making any sales, and they don't understand why, after all they made the game suck several iterations ago and sales didn't collapse back then! They didn't realize it was the goodwill of the products that came before they were pissing away.
LOL calling those employees "grifters" incorrectly places the blame on them for applying for a job. The fault is with these companies expanding well beyond a sensible size just to offer sub par products that they willfully push onto the market.
@@blowfish1702 These companies have literally been hiring people for the sake of diversity. What do you get when you hire along the lines of race and gender instead of merit? Useful employees. Being bloated is one issue. DEI is another. Stop denying the negative impact of DEI.
Fair enough in some way. But the other part of the problem is once you get useless people and positions, they hire more useless people and create more useless job positions.@@blowfish1702
@@napoleonfeanormuh inflation doesn't help when the average person's disposalable income has gone down. Yeah, congrats you're bringing in more per sale but getting less sales because people can't afford it.
Also add, 70 dollard game, plus the always online wich mean if the server goes down you lost what you paid, not to mention ban you for whatever thing they want, o you said something bad on twater ban, or you misggender someone ban, add also the rising cost of gaming pc, and consoles, consoles are less support, instead of ten now maybe five years, and then a new ones, and add the constant bugs, and nearly broken games. For me the moment consoles forget the idea of games is put and game not the constant crap, and add crap games that launch in unplayable state with a 70 dolards price tag, no
Everyone is strictly forbidden to discuss the root cause, because the root cause (i.e. wokeism) is driven by liberal feminist women; and it is a felony crime to criticize a woman in the workplace. We all know what the root cause is; but we do not dare to call it out. It is grounds for immediate termination, possibly followed by a false sex harassment/sex assault/rape accusation in a CIVIL (never a criminal court) law suit, and no police report.
If the articles were to point out what was actually causing the problem they'd be admitting that they are part of the problem. It's why games journalism is dying alongside the rest of 'woke' entertainment.
I think we need to highlight a special victim of the [current year] video game crash: Neil Cuctman. The poor man expended all of his creative energy rewriting a sequel after kicking out Amy Hennig, and then remaking the same sequel, three times. Rip Cuctman 🎩 🐍 no step on snek!🇺🇸🇭🇰
@@ahmataevo I never focused too much on the feet, evenw itht he camera on them. This meme of his fetish existed only after foot fetish became a mainstream meme.
Allegedly, Cuctman was only able to create the original Last of Us because there were two other writers hammering his ideas into a functional narrative. Those writers were kicked out alongside Amy Hennig and Cuctman had full creative control over the sequel.
The same reason that caused the comic book crash is doing the same with video games. Even the award shows and conventions are biased with blacklisting and Twitter X wars. This is not how one should spend their past time.
was probably an editor or assistant. not him. believe it or not an employer doesn't fully know what all of his employees do. hence why entertainment is sabotaged today.
I like when people elect to list their pronouns professionally. Without a fail, people who tell you their pronouns are the least useful people in the room on any project you're working on. Kind of lets you know who to avoid.
I have no sympathy for them, they did that to themselves with embracing woke shit and their greedy ass practices and excessive microtransactions (raising the price of games to $70 and $80, live service + loot boxes + gambling + battlepass + shop with FOMO possibly ALL in the same fucking game) .. meanwhile indie studios like Pocket Pair (Palworld) are actually looking for more people to hire .. this is the FUTURE of games.
When you keep subverting expectations, the wallets begin to close. Fans wanted another Fallout or Elder Scrolls and we get Starfield...they keep pushing Girl Bosses and they suck.
No, it wasn't Starfield that was the problem. Fallout 76 came first. And Fallout 4 before that. If Starfield was announced right after Skyrim and New Vegas people would have been thrilled to see it. Fallout and Elder Scrolls had to start somewhere. The problem is the current people just aren't skilled enough.
Honestly not like Bethesda games were thst good to begin with. If You expected from a company of people who are proven inept at a polished product or even re-release, it's your own fault Giving them your money. But I guess the mods will fix it, just fine right?
Video games these days have become far too expensive for the experience they provide. Not only do these companies fail to provide a game that is more enjoyable to actually play myself than it would be to just watch someone else play it on RUclips or Twitch, they're all asking for $70-$120 in an economy where people can't afford a fucking Happy Meal at McDonalds.
They aren't too expensive to make. Games like Blasphamous 1 and 2, Hollow Knight, Palworld and numerous other titles are made with a budget less than 1 million. The offices are overbloated in big budget games with dozens of positions that can be simply removed with no loss of quality to the product.
@@jaysherman2615 I didn't say anything about the cost to make the games, I was talking about games that are too expensive for the average customer to purchase. All the games you mentioned are indie titles less than $50, not even within the range I was complaining about. Did you not read my entire comment or something? I genuinely don't know how you could have misinterpreted what I was talking about otherwise.
@@NineHundredDollarydoos Even then the price the user pays is not really an argument. There were games on the Sega Genesis and SNES that sold for $70 or $80 bucks back 30 years ago which translates to well over $120 bucks accounting for inflation. People were willing to pay that cash back then for a quality product. It isn't price since you can't get rid of these modern abominations called games for even 10 bucks now. The product is made by people who hate us and we refuse to buy accordingly.
This is what happens when HR and DEI sections of gaming companies become bloated, gain excessive power and suck all the resources destined to the actual creative sections. Woke is the death of creativity.
I'll be sitting in my chair and munching on popcorn while it happens. I have most of the old games I want, and can live without 99.99% of games now. And any company that went woke for those easy ESG/DIE loans? We'll treat them like the companies who let Epic Games poach them despite having obligations prior: Like a sellout.
Another comment brought this up and this is the exact same thing that happened with comics . Woke ESG and BRIDGE investors will be forced to pull out and the hobby will go back to being niche and as a result, the western studios and companies will fall while Japanese studios and small indies that acknowledge fanservice will survive.
I've been warning my employers that this type of marketing was going to cause a collapse. Well...now that the collapse is happening, they are running back to me to help them fix it. I hang up the phone not before laughing at them and telling them that they now have to reap what they've sown. There's a way to fix this, but they won't do it and we all know why: *"Their Ideology is far more important than their survival"* . So I refuse to help them fix a problem we all know they really don't want fixed.
You constantly tell your bosses they’re wrong, then when they agree with you, you say you can’t help them… are you sure you’re talking to your bosses? If so, how is it you are still employed?
You constantly tell your bosses they’re wrong, then when they agree with you, you say you can’t help them… are you sure you’re talking to your bosses? If so, how is it you are still employed?
Sounds like a lot of jobs, I tell my bosses that's something is wrong or going to be a problem, surprised Pikachu face when it turns out exactly as I warned. But I don't work in gaming or software, but similar experience I guess.
@@napoleonfeanor as a cultural phenomenon, technical archievement, and as the root of so many modern gaming tropes ? nope. wasn't the first FPS but at one point it was installed on more systems than windows, bill f'ing gates did an ad for doom, the fact it run on a 486 is nothing short of programming witchcraft, it was the first game to popularize death match, ... and last but not least, 30 years later it's still one of the most active modding community there is. so pay some f'ing respect to the elder, youngling ;)
It didn't need to be this way. But they listen to some activists, exactly what I don't want in my games. Give me boobs, give me violence, give me heavy themes. I ain't going to play babies games.
My daughter worked for a major video game company. I'm not going to say which one. I've always told her to focus on skills and tried to guide her to being happy in life rather than railroading her into the single career woman lifestyle, but like me she has always loved video games so she kinda had a mind of her own. Well, despite me telling her to focus on skills, she was one of the many women who wormed her way into a bureaucrat management position in one of these companies. Now she can't find a job because all of her experience is in general management rather than coding, level design, or anything actually necessary to game dev. Edit: To clarify, she was laid off like 6 months ago from this company and she has been applying everywhere. Nobody is hiring.
Sadly the meme learn to code comes the mind here my friend warn about this 2 years old he said I getting out taking a trade job like his dad told me AI would kill half of the workforce in white collar jobs that weren't even real they were Fake government post made ESG funding they were going to drop them off as soon economic boom falls and it did.
@@contentsdiffer5958 Yah, well I wasn't the only influence on her life. Her mom and grandmother really wanted her to do the college/career thing. I never pushed her into it. There's only so much pushback you can give on that kinda stuff before it just sounds like you hate the rest of her family.
The triple A market is crashing Double A and Indies will go on as usual as gamers choose to purchase games made with passion instead of overbudget cinematic slop
way more games release per month than in the past (which is good, more competition means a stronger industry) and social media weeds out bad games faster than ever before
They adopted the late Sears model of “The customer is wrong, they don’t know what they want, we aren’t the problem the customer is, they’ll buy what we make anyway don’t worry”. Then when they turn a multi billion dollar company into not a company they act like they tried everything to save it.
In the modern day, I never worry when I see rampant stupidity and anti-consumerism in my favourite industries, because I've learned the market always catches up. It was the same with online journalism, and social media, "don't get mad, just don't spend your money there, and wait for layoffs".
It's not a crash when games like palworld get so many sales. It's not a crash when half of all AAA companies haven't released a new game in 5+ years. It's not a crash when every years sportball resale for $60+ still makes a profit off normies who don't mind being scammed.
its mainly a crash of American gaming industry ..because these layoffs are 80% in America ...some in Europe ..and mostly those who have gone woke and/or overhired during COVID (usually both),,,and now when ESG/venture capital cash support is kinda gone and wont cover the risks in the same ways forces the companies to make changes (cleanup) to become profitable. ...the question is that are these changes enough/correct? well if not they will go bankrupt hopefully this "crash" will affect positively on the localization BS, as that has been the biggest issue for Japanese games
There is a 'western' gaming crash. Asia is doing better than ever, especially CN and KR. Since most of their games are not AAA, but are for mobile, people tend to ignore, but they're actually really high quality now.
Only graphically and a recent policy change hurt China gaming. Nintendo is also still doing well making profit with a low specc console selling more than 140m units plus quality games
@@napoleonfeanor Lets not pretend Nintendo is "quality" they publish games that sell you the same thing 20 times with two same priced versions of each with gotcha mechanics. Nintendo is Scum.
Just like the game industry in the 80's flooded the market with broken games that no one bought, the same thing is happening now, only its with the bigger studios. All those college kid clowns being hired instead of actual nerds that know how to make cool games for other nerds has finally reached its conclusion.
The elephant in the room is interest rates. They over hired when it was fashionable and now with the $ crunch they need to make cuts. It’s the same in the TV and Film industry.
They over hired activists and implemented disastrous DEI policies which are destroying their industry just as they are destroying the TV and film industry. This all comes from the same ideological place that puts their irrational identity politics in front of making money.
@@haraldbredsdorff26992012 was the first start, then after gamergate showed some relatively low corruption, they went apeshit +TDS of 2016 ramped up their efforts.
Honestly, I think we're walking into a trap if we blame it on Sweet Baby. They're just a symptom. Starfield for instance, is crap because Bethesda is a zombie company that hasn't bothered fixing a new game engine, innovate their game formulas, or even make character models that aren't uncanny valley monsters. Sweet Baby is just the cherry on top of a turd sundae.
Bloated management, diversity and inclusion specialists, overpriced games, macrotransactions, games as live service, shallow unrewarding gameplay, one dimensional characters, non sensical stories, over saturation of ips, etc... There's a lot wrong with modern gaming.
There are several reasons: wokeness, live service obsession, bloat, rising costs due to focus on realistic graphics The early 80s crash was just NA anyways. There won't be any crash but the AAA stuff is collapsing. Others make good profits.
I had a college professor who could not understand no matter how I and others tried to explain to her that the lights in class room would not turn on no matter how many times she tried flipping the switch during a power outage.
@@paolinopaperino8926 I'm not. I've knew someone who didn't know you had to put gas in the car as well, because her dad and her husband always put gas in car for her. Then when she got divorced she ran her car dry and was shocked that it just stopped, she thought it was broken, when it was just out of gas.
@@aj.j5833 I offer my condolencies. Here in Italy we have deep rooted sociopolitical problems, but we never reach this kind of ignorance, unless in the case of some very young and pampered girls who never put their head outside their town, but this issue usually disappears once they reach adulthood. Even though I'm a foreigner, know that as a gamer myself I stand with you all. You're not alone in this battle for normalcy.
Like Soviets who learned to navigate who was in favor and who wasn't, what was allowed and what wasn't, by what the party platform publications **didn't** say. People adapt.
It's like how over in Star Wars the fans just decided to not like Star Wars. It's weird. They loved Star Wars right up to 2017 and then they just decided "We're done here." So strange how that happened. Completely out of the blew. Not like there was a movie that came out that December called The Last Jedi. But I am sure that is just a coincidence.
The budgets are so high that it's a gamble whether or not it will make any money, even if it sells millions. And they insult consumers. Along with the censorship and ruining stories for companies like SB inc. Who is going to buy the game if you insult fans and include censorship? Big movie companies are doing the same things and nobody is watching the movies, they just make everyone angry and they say "haha you're mad" and the film loses money, like disney/marvel. And when it lose money they say "WHY DIDNT YOU WATCH THE MOVIE, ITS THE FANS FAULT!!" It's a very toxic industry these days towards fans and consumers.
Believe it or not, even passenger aircraft pilots are hired based primarily on race, gender and sexual alignment. Even human lives are worth less than political agendas to them, they won't care about customer's satisfaction.
I remember Razorfist talking about a gaming collapse ages ago that the media completely ignored. It must be worse now if everyone is starting to see it.
Woke is part of it, but I think the economic downturn is even more of it. People have less disposable income for things like $80 video games. Meanwhile the employees need raises to maintain their standard of living vs inflation. If gaming weren't already pissing off cusomers with the woke stuff, then there might be more staying power - customers might be more attached to their games and make cuts on other things to keep buyi g games. But we were already seeing a slowdown before covid. Now that post covid, post Ukraine, post mass migration inflation is strangling the economy in general, luxuries like AAA gaming are going to get the axe first. Same for Hollywood and Disney.
I knew it, I have been calling this out at work MULTIPLE TIMES especially with all the live-service trash, bad game directions from garbage companies. The Day Before was the BIGGEST red flag of all this debacle.
In the last five years, there have been two great (Pathfinder Kingmaker and WotR) and three good (JA3, Baldur's Gate 3 and Warhammer 40K: Rogue Trader) games. THAT'S IT! Notice how three out of the five were made by Owlcat.
I do believe women are most affected, but that's because they were overwhelmingly recent hires who were mostly only brought in to maintain a quota for blackrock. If Blackrock's money dries up then these companies don't need them anymore, simple as. It's the big downside of not being hired for your skills and why i would never accept a job as a token (x) person
All those millions of dollars just to turn their projects into buggy, piles of crap just shows you how much embezzling is happening in these "Gaming Companies"
One thing is that to fix the numbers you have to fire efficient employees and then hire these humanities people who somehow are less useful and more expensive. Remember, doing the right thing and saving humanity and being empathetic and nice and a decent human being and fixing historical injustices comes at a very, and I mean VERY, very, very-very hefty premium.
I left the industry around 2021 and got into Finance. The gaslighting and cult mentality is real in studios and publisher houses, it had it coming. If you're still makinf games, do yourself a favour and find an alternative source of income. It's a nice way of saying; find another job while you still can.
That's what they always were. They lied until they got power, and then pulled out the daggers. Just like every single other time in the past. Lie until you get power, then abuse it to make sure you keep power. A recent example: They used to say that 'gay is just a lifestyle choice you have to tolerate' (80s and 90s) and 'no one is arguing for gay marriage' (90s and early 2000s). Then, suddenly, anyone who said homosexuality was a lifestyle choice or who didn't support gay marriage was an evil bigot who got fired. Not even exaggerating; the founder of Mozilla was fired simply for donating to a political cause his commie woke bosses didn't like. That one scientist was fired from Google for correctly describing intelligence curves among men and women. There were many other, less famous examples.
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Sweet baby and others are to blame. Woke crowd sucks. Get out of our games!
Telling the customer they're wrong has proven to be unprofitable
The mindwashing is on an unbelievable level. Lgbthdtv gaslighted entire continents to believe they can get away with not just ignoring, but outright spitting in the face and insulting lifelong fans and customers.
Tell the customer they’re wrong/stupid for wanting/not wanting something. -> Act smug behind and computer screen and 1000’s of social media bot likes. -> Product comes out. -> Product doesn’t sell well. -> Gaslight that product is selling well. -> Quietly admit the product did not sell well. -> Deny any responsibility and blame a conspiracy of anti-customers. -> Go on a talk show or podcast and talk about how this experienced is “traumatizing”. -> Retire product. -> Repeat for next product.
Which is what these people do all the time.
It should be obivous long ago
profit doesnt matter! they are pushing their agenda!
just wait until they start throwing out "Video game fatigue"
They did that in the 1980s. The corpos claimed gaming was dead. Nintendo had to market its shit as a toy and even made a wierd Robot peripheral to get stores to carry it. After which they proved the issue was quality and not gaming
Some of them already do.
Some likento call it boredom.
"Gamers are dead". Happened in 2016, they're just starting to notice the effects. Battlefield V missing its targets after getting tons of backlash from fans? Not a problem, they'll just double down and 2042 will be a total failure. Not a problem either. And here we are in 2024, AAA studios are rightfully burning and the vermin are jumping ship or being tossed off.
@@bartsanders1553 so, they should be making entertaining games instead of boring chores? Who knew!
Wait, you mean to tell me bloating their budget, releasing games broken & buggy, hiring based on race/gender, and going out of the way to make their games as unappealing for their core consumers as possible is unsustainable?
Unethical and brutal work conditions.
Shady bussiness decisions.
Over relying on mass audiences that aren't gamers
Making gaming as a service
And other garbage bussiness crap
The fact it only took things like the woke crap to help this collapse is astonishing.
@@darkzeroprojects4245 like razorfist says, they went broke first and then went woke
@@darkzeroprojects4245I honestly don’t care if these people have to work crunch time. If you don’t like long hours in your career there are plenty of lower paying jobs with less benefits to work at.
@@lordhelwintr283 finally someone says it. Video game devs are so fucking entitled.
@@lordhelwintr283 yeah I never understood these arguments, I guess they were parroted by youtubers and streamers who never saw or did any actual work.
DEI, ESG, CRT, Alphabet mafia, and feminism....
All of which can be labeled under a single title: Globalism.
Anti capitalist all, anti productive, no military industrial, no nuclear energy even if the power station is built 10 years ago same with coal power plants, agriculture needs to be stopped because it like everything else like the rainforest and swamps are emitting and absorbing carbon emissions, greenhouse gases that are greening the planet, primarily original source seems to be the USSR, Russia subversion efforts of there enemies, though the western leftist inside their institutions like education and media.
sweet baby can eat shit!!!
It all falls under one umbrella... Search up "Long March Through the Institutions"
Also, look up New Discourses podcast by James Lindsay, which is specifically dedicated to this topic.
What is CRT? I know the others though
When 5% of your company does 100% of the work, you've got a bubble.
Man who'd have guessed that openly hating your consumer base for 12 years and spending the GDP of Carribean or small Asian country would end poorly?
Its so funny, they absolutely refuse to acknowledge any of DEI and ESG's role in all this. People like Bellular, YongYea and their audience deny it if you bring it up.
They are normies dude, they don't care about the industry. If another crash happened, they will just invade another hobby and turn it to shit.
Who are those people?
ugh bellular and his constant excusing of bad devs and "oh woes the poor game devs that have not at all been stepping up" Just insufferable. whether annoyingly woke or not, These devs have not been doing a good job at all!
This new problem within the gaming space where people don't seem to ever want to Criticize devs directly is kind of pathetic.
@@keonklabecause they get money from the same places.
Bellular, i wish that guy got off my recommended page
and yong "I EARNED KIRYU" yea, i feel like his vids are padded garbage just to hit the monetization threshold
We Warned them for like 15 years that they were driving off a cliff.
The slowest of Thelma and Louise motions ever.
Too bad for them. Make them acknowledge it.
The left will never admit that there existence is the reason why the gaming industry is failing
This was inevitable once everyone started doing loot boxes and "live service" nonsense. It over-inflated the developers' employee counts and crushed the players' enthusiasm.
And what are these people think that the world is digital. The release something that sucks, and it continues to do well, so they assumed that they can release something that sucks. Well then they really something else, maybe they get a few less sales but it's still lots. Eventually, they're not making any sales, and they don't understand why, after all they made the game suck several iterations ago and sales didn't collapse back then!
They didn't realize it was the goodwill of the products that came before they were pissing away.
Industry shocked to find out people don't play and spend on multiple "live service" games at the same time
1/10 of the people in these gaming companies are useful employees. They've been hiring too many grifters and can't afford it anymore.
LOL calling those employees "grifters" incorrectly places the blame on them for applying for a job. The fault is with these companies expanding well beyond a sensible size just to offer sub par products that they willfully push onto the market.
@@blowfish1702 These companies have literally been hiring people for the sake of diversity. What do you get when you hire along the lines of race and gender instead of merit? Useful employees. Being bloated is one issue. DEI is another. Stop denying the negative impact of DEI.
Fair enough in some way. But the other part of the problem is once you get useless people and positions, they hire more useless people and create more useless job positions.@@blowfish1702
20% of people do 80% of the work
@@blowfish1702 They share fault in this too
Hmm I wonder if it's those perfectly reasonably priced $70 games and the out of control budgets are at fault
HR is about to be abandoned
Tbh it's the same money due to inflation. I also get my new switch games cheaper as physical release. TotK was 55€ for me here
@@napoleonfeanormuh inflation doesn't help when the average person's disposalable income has gone down. Yeah, congrats you're bringing in more per sale but getting less sales because people can't afford it.
Also add, 70 dollard game, plus the always online wich mean if the server goes down you lost what you paid, not to mention ban you for whatever thing they want, o you said something bad on twater ban, or you misggender someone ban, add also the rising cost of gaming pc, and consoles, consoles are less support, instead of ten now maybe five years, and then a new ones, and add the constant bugs, and nearly broken games.
For me the moment consoles forget the idea of games is put and game not the constant crap, and add crap games that launch in unplayable state with a 70 dolards price tag, no
@@jesperFrost Please don't give me hope.
Not a single one of these articles points out that wokeness is killing gaming just like it's killing every other form of art and entertainment
And culture
They get kickbacks for supporting it, it's the only reason it's still around. Once the money runs dry, wokeness will magically disappear.
Everyone is strictly forbidden to discuss the root cause, because the root cause (i.e. wokeism) is driven by liberal feminist women; and it is a felony crime to criticize a woman in the workplace. We all know what the root cause is; but we do not dare to call it out. It is grounds for immediate termination, possibly followed by a false sex harassment/sex assault/rape accusation in a CIVIL (never a criminal court) law suit, and no police report.
If the articles were to point out what was actually causing the problem they'd be admitting that they are part of the problem. It's why games journalism is dying alongside the rest of 'woke' entertainment.
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Its what it needs. 84 style big time.
The industry is 100 times over valued and thinks as a result that their shit shines.. it don't..
Their shoes smell really bad too.
Gaming will be fine. Games no one plays will not be.
It will be fine. But this is STILL a crash.
Oh noooo, releasing trash for a decade has consequences... oh nooooo...
So anyways.
350M for a game. This is beyond mind blowing.
Spiderman 2 made all that money back in 4 months selling 10 million copies. The game is already profitable in month 5....
That's more expensive than a Hollywood blockbuster!😮
For a game like Star Citizen no. For a game like COD yes.
VGs have been outperforming Hollywood for the last decade
@@Alien_isolationist Spiderman 2 only sold 2 million. Quit lying.
I think we need to highlight a special victim of the [current year] video game crash: Neil Cuctman.
The poor man expended all of his creative energy rewriting a sequel after kicking out Amy Hennig, and then remaking the same sequel, three times.
Rip Cuctman
🎩
🐍 no step on snek!🇺🇸🇭🇰
At least Tarantino's self-insert was with an actual woman.
@@WhiskeyPatriot - If it doesn't hyper-focus on women's feet it isn't Tarentino.
@@ahmataevo I never focused too much on the feet, evenw itht he camera on them.
This meme of his fetish existed only after foot fetish became a mainstream meme.
Allegedly, Cuctman was only able to create the original Last of Us because there were two other writers hammering his ideas into a functional narrative. Those writers were kicked out alongside Amy Hennig and Cuctman had full creative control over the sequel.
@@Xazamas And it shows.
The same reason that caused the comic book crash is doing the same with video games.
Even the award shows and conventions are biased with blacklisting and Twitter X wars.
This is not how one should spend their past time.
I'm just glad John Romero lists pronouns so that his game dev friends know the famous DOOM developer is NOT a female as everything burns around them.
Too many people kiss his ass. He did nothing significant after Quake.
was probably an editor or assistant. not him.
believe it or not an employer doesn't fully know what all of his employees do.
hence why entertainment is sabotaged today.
@@magicjohnson3121at least he did something significant in video games at all vs most of the current devs
@@magicjohnson3121 He made Daikatana. A lesson for all on ego
I like when people elect to list their pronouns professionally. Without a fail, people who tell you their pronouns are the least useful people in the room on any project you're working on. Kind of lets you know who to avoid.
I have no sympathy for them, they did that to themselves with embracing woke shit and their greedy ass practices and excessive microtransactions (raising the price of games to $70 and $80, live service + loot boxes + gambling + battlepass + shop with FOMO possibly ALL in the same fucking game) .. meanwhile indie studios like Pocket Pair (Palworld) are actually looking for more people to hire .. this is the FUTURE of games.
The AAA gaming industry bubble finally burst a bit
When you keep subverting expectations, the wallets begin to close. Fans wanted another Fallout or Elder Scrolls and we get Starfield...they keep pushing Girl Bosses and they suck.
No, it wasn't Starfield that was the problem. Fallout 76 came first. And Fallout 4 before that. If Starfield was announced right after Skyrim and New Vegas people would have been thrilled to see it. Fallout and Elder Scrolls had to start somewhere. The problem is the current people just aren't skilled enough.
Honestly not like Bethesda games were thst good to begin with.
If You expected from a company of people who are proven inept at a polished product or even re-release, it's your own fault Giving them your money.
But I guess the mods will fix it, just fine right?
Blame the left for that there existence is why gaming sucks
@@darkzeroprojects4245the reason people love Bethesda so much is the lack of competition. No company makes immersive games like they do.
@@darkzeroprojects4245Morrowind was incredible. They also make the greatest modding platforms around.
Video games these days have become far too expensive for the experience they provide. Not only do these companies fail to provide a game that is more enjoyable to actually play myself than it would be to just watch someone else play it on RUclips or Twitch, they're all asking for $70-$120 in an economy where people can't afford a fucking Happy Meal at McDonalds.
They aren't too expensive to make. Games like Blasphamous 1 and 2, Hollow Knight, Palworld and numerous other titles are made with a budget less than 1 million. The offices are overbloated in big budget games with dozens of positions that can be simply removed with no loss of quality to the product.
@@jaysherman2615 I didn't say anything about the cost to make the games, I was talking about games that are too expensive for the average customer to purchase. All the games you mentioned are indie titles less than $50, not even within the range I was complaining about.
Did you not read my entire comment or something? I genuinely don't know how you could have misinterpreted what I was talking about otherwise.
@@NineHundredDollarydoos
Even then the price the user pays is not really an argument. There were games on the Sega Genesis and SNES that sold for $70 or $80 bucks back 30 years ago which translates to well over $120 bucks accounting for inflation. People were willing to pay that cash back then for a quality product. It isn't price since you can't get rid of these modern abominations called games for even 10 bucks now. The product is made by people who hate us and we refuse to buy accordingly.
Baldurs gate 3 is 50, helldivers 2 is 40
This is what happens when HR and DEI sections of gaming companies become bloated, gain excessive power and suck all the resources destined to the actual creative sections.
Woke is the death of creativity.
Anyone else remember the 1983 gaming crash started by the ET game?
Oh boy, the coming one will be 10 times worse
I was just thinking to myself I couldn't be any worst. But considering the size of the industry now you're probably right.
Most big AAA companies are low on cash. We can just kick back, relax and watch who goes down first. I would bet ubisoft.
I'll be sitting in my chair and munching on popcorn while it happens. I have most of the old games I want, and can live without 99.99% of games now.
And any company that went woke for those easy ESG/DIE loans? We'll treat them like the companies who let Epic Games poach them despite having obligations prior: Like a sellout.
@Chibi1986
I tbh just hope gaming never truely dies
Born in 92 nope on me but my parents did see that in the news etc
Make games that people want to play again, if you want them to pay
Another comment brought this up and this is the exact same thing that happened with comics . Woke ESG and BRIDGE investors will be forced to pull out and the hobby will go back to being niche and as a result, the western studios and companies will fall while Japanese studios and small indies that acknowledge fanservice will survive.
The bridge stuff needs to be spread. Many people don't know.
Thumbs up for that kind of a reset happening. 👍
This is best case scenario, but unlikely to happen unfortunately.
keep praying but don't get married to that hope
I am worried for japanese studios they are getting infested
I've been warning my employers that this type of marketing was going to cause a collapse. Well...now that the collapse is happening, they are running back to me to help them fix it. I hang up the phone not before laughing at them and telling them that they now have to reap what they've sown. There's a way to fix this, but they won't do it and we all know why: *"Their Ideology is far more important than their survival"* . So I refuse to help them fix a problem we all know they really don't want fixed.
You constantly tell your bosses they’re wrong, then when they agree with you, you say you can’t help them… are you sure you’re talking to your bosses? If so, how is it you are still employed?
You constantly tell your bosses they’re wrong, then when they agree with you, you say you can’t help them… are you sure you’re talking to your bosses? If so, how is it you are still employed?
Sounds like a lot of jobs, I tell my bosses that's something is wrong or going to be a problem, surprised Pikachu face when it turns out exactly as I warned. But I don't work in gaming or software, but similar experience I guess.
@@DFunct905 I work freelance as an independent marketer and accountant. I don't like staying in one place because of situations like this.
Much like the Video Game Crash of '83, it'll probably be Japan that saves the West.
Nintendo is pretty much Toby Mcguire Spider-Man stopping the train from going over.
Like with Palworld?
@@Eboreg2 yes, and ironically the inspiration for that game 😂
@@Eboreg2 though honestly it seems Nintendo is willing to let Palworld coexist for now so I don't want to be too mean to them.
@@sergeantsapientNope they don't have legal ground to go after it. As worst it's parody and at best completely orginal
Romero, Carmack, and the ID Software team, they made history with DOOM that has never been topped.
Much like Gygax, Arneson, and TSR did with D&D.
Doom has never been topped?
definitely. legends of the gaming community before it went nuts
@@napoleonfeanor as a cultural phenomenon, technical archievement, and as the root of so many modern gaming tropes ? nope.
wasn't the first FPS but at one point it was installed on more systems than windows, bill f'ing gates did an ad for doom,
the fact it run on a 486 is nothing short of programming witchcraft, it was the first game to popularize death match, ...
and last but not least, 30 years later it's still one of the most active modding community there is.
so pay some f'ing respect to the elder, youngling ;)
@@slckb0y65A 486? Bro Doom is so well optimized it can run on a pregnancy test. Hell it can run in Notepad even! Look it up!
It didn't need to be this way. But they listen to some activists, exactly what I don't want in my games.
Give me boobs, give me violence, give me heavy themes. I ain't going to play babies games.
My daughter worked for a major video game company. I'm not going to say which one. I've always told her to focus on skills and tried to guide her to being happy in life rather than railroading her into the single career woman lifestyle, but like me she has always loved video games so she kinda had a mind of her own. Well, despite me telling her to focus on skills, she was one of the many women who wormed her way into a bureaucrat management position in one of these companies. Now she can't find a job because all of her experience is in general management rather than coding, level design, or anything actually necessary to game dev.
Edit: To clarify, she was laid off like 6 months ago from this company and she has been applying everywhere. Nobody is hiring.
Sadly the meme learn to code comes the mind here my friend warn about this 2 years old he said I getting out taking a trade job like his dad told me AI would kill half of the workforce in white collar jobs that weren't even real they were Fake government post made ESG funding they were going to drop them off as soon economic boom falls and it did.
Sorry your daughter is struggling, this is true for any ultimately useless management job that doesn't do anything. Hopefully she'll find something!
While she’s waiting, maybe she can hone her skills working on her own indie games?
Wow, that's so unusual for a modern woman.
@@contentsdiffer5958 Yah, well I wasn't the only influence on her life. Her mom and grandmother really wanted her to do the college/career thing. I never pushed her into it. There's only so much pushback you can give on that kinda stuff before it just sounds like you hate the rest of her family.
The triple A market is crashing
Double A and Indies will go on as usual as gamers choose to purchase games made with passion instead of overbudget cinematic slop
Good!!
I'm hyped for Stellar Blade!!
Live Action games are just mobile games scaled up.
100
way more games release per month than in the past (which is good, more competition means a stronger industry) and social media weeds out bad games faster than ever before
They adopted the late Sears model of “The customer is wrong, they don’t know what they want, we aren’t the problem the customer is, they’ll buy what we make anyway don’t worry”. Then when they turn a multi billion dollar company into not a company they act like they tried everything to save it.
In the modern day, I never worry when I see rampant stupidity and anti-consumerism in my favourite industries, because I've learned the market always catches up. It was the same with online journalism, and social media, "don't get mad, just don't spend your money there, and wait for layoffs".
They aren't 🎯 women, there might just be that many more that are working now ?
It's not a crash when games like palworld get so many sales. It's not a crash when half of all AAA companies haven't released a new game in 5+ years. It's not a crash when every years sportball resale for $60+ still makes a profit off normies who don't mind being scammed.
This. These people just don't know wtf they're doing or how much they should be investing to make it sustainable.
its mainly a crash of American gaming industry ..because these layoffs are 80% in America ...some in Europe ..and mostly those who have gone woke and/or overhired during COVID (usually both),,,and now when ESG/venture capital cash support is kinda gone and wont cover the risks in the same ways forces the companies to make changes (cleanup) to become profitable. ...the question is that are these changes enough/correct? well if not they will go bankrupt
hopefully this "crash" will affect positively on the localization BS, as that has been the biggest issue for Japanese games
Unfortunately, Palworld will be another victim to Microshaft. We need more homegrown indies that aren’t beholden to woke publishers.
Is it really a crash when it only really affects AAA (and AAAA) games and companies? Or is it market cleanup of overpriced low quality products?
Too bad Palworld is likely be ruined by Microsoft knowing their current history. We need more homegrown indies.
There is a 'western' gaming crash. Asia is doing better than ever, especially CN and KR. Since most of their games are not AAA, but are for mobile, people tend to ignore, but they're actually really high quality now.
Only graphically and a recent policy change hurt China gaming.
Nintendo is also still doing well making profit with a low specc console selling more than 140m units plus quality games
Wukong black myth is very promising.
And only mainstream western studios Indie will keep on ticking and middle market might be able to rush in.
@@napoleonfeanor Lets not pretend Nintendo is "quality" they publish games that sell you the same thing 20 times with two same priced versions of each with gotcha mechanics.
Nintendo is Scum.
Just like the game industry in the 80's flooded the market with broken games that no one bought, the same thing is happening now, only its with the bigger studios. All those college kid clowns being hired instead of actual nerds that know how to make cool games for other nerds has finally reached its conclusion.
When truckers were losing their jobs they were told "learn to code".
Well, maybe these DEI hires getting laid off should learn to drive.
The elephant in the room is interest rates. They over hired when it was fashionable and now with the $ crunch they need to make cuts. It’s the same in the TV and Film industry.
They over hired activists and implemented disastrous DEI policies which are destroying their industry just as they are destroying the TV and film industry. This all comes from the same ideological place that puts their irrational identity politics in front of making money.
What kind of moron makes long-term hiring decisions based on debt?
Romero is also a man that went on record saying "Bring Back Skill" in response to braindead modern games, hehehehe
Romero also made nothing good after he left ID software
@@magicjohnson3121 …the duality of man
@@magicjohnson3121 Nobody in Id made anything good after he left Id.
@@InternetHydraDoom Eternal
Sigil Episode 1 and 2 are pretty good I hear, even if they're Wads for Doom.
Bidenomics Babies! Sweet Sweet Babies.
is a canadian company. soo... trudeaunomics babies?
I mean, this is older than Bidenomics, the hard modern push started (I think) around 2012.
@@haraldbredsdorff26992012 was the first start, then after gamergate showed some relatively low corruption, they went apeshit +TDS of 2016 ramped up their efforts.
@@AKATennAre we taking seriously the economics of a company that gets paid in loonies?
I read that in Cyael's voice for some reason 😅
Everyone knows exactly why this is happening but the industry and media will dance around the issue and come up with other excuses.
Honestly, I think we're walking into a trap if we blame it on Sweet Baby. They're just a symptom. Starfield for instance, is crap because Bethesda is a zombie company that hasn't bothered fixing a new game engine, innovate their game formulas, or even make character models that aren't uncanny valley monsters. Sweet Baby is just the cherry on top of a turd sundae.
Bloated management, diversity and inclusion specialists, overpriced games, macrotransactions, games as live service, shallow unrewarding gameplay, one dimensional characters, non sensical stories, over saturation of ips, etc... There's a lot wrong with modern gaming.
There are several reasons: wokeness, live service obsession, bloat, rising costs due to focus on realistic graphics
The early 80s crash was just NA anyways. There won't be any crash but the AAA stuff is collapsing. Others make good profits.
They have suddenly found their misogyny 😂
All I can say is the driver nephi quote from FNV
They operate off of theory rather than the lived experience of individuals, which is the problem with the anointed
I had a college professor who could not understand no matter how I and others tried to explain to her that the lights in class room would not turn on no matter how many times she tried flipping the switch during a power outage.
"what do you mean, milk comes from the store!"
Please, tell me you are joking
@@paolinopaperino8926 I'm not. I've knew someone who didn't know you had to put gas in the car as well, because her dad and her husband always put gas in car for her. Then when she got divorced she ran her car dry and was shocked that it just stopped, she thought it was broken, when it was just out of gas.
@@aj.j5833 I offer my condolencies. Here in Italy we have deep rooted sociopolitical problems, but we never reach this kind of ignorance, unless in the case of some very young and pampered girls who never put their head outside their town, but this issue usually disappears once they reach adulthood. Even though I'm a foreigner, know that as a gamer myself I stand with you all. You're not alone in this battle for normalcy.
Wow 😂
People can smell woke a mile off. No matter how much you try to rebrand or rename it.
Like Soviets who learned to navigate who was in favor and who wasn't, what was allowed and what wasn't, by what the party platform publications **didn't** say. People adapt.
Good riddance. The video game industry is a mockery of its former self. Hopefully when the industry recovers, it'll go back to physical media.
Lol
Lmao, even
It's like how over in Star Wars the fans just decided to not like Star Wars. It's weird. They loved Star Wars right up to 2017 and then they just decided "We're done here." So strange how that happened. Completely out of the blew. Not like there was a movie that came out that December called The Last Jedi. But I am sure that is just a coincidence.
“We’re in the here and now. There is no future”
The budgets are so high that it's a gamble whether or not it will make any money, even if it sells millions.
And they insult consumers. Along with the censorship and ruining stories for companies like SB inc.
Who is going to buy the game if you insult fans and include censorship?
Big movie companies are doing the same things and nobody is watching the movies, they just make everyone angry and they say "haha you're mad" and the film loses money, like disney/marvel.
And when it lose money they say "WHY DIDNT YOU WATCH THE MOVIE, ITS THE FANS FAULT!!"
It's a very toxic industry these days towards fans and consumers.
Believe it or not, even passenger aircraft pilots are hired based primarily on race, gender and sexual alignment. Even human lives are worth less than political agendas to them, they won't care about customer's satisfaction.
I remember Razorfist talking about a gaming collapse ages ago that the media completely ignored.
It must be worse now if everyone is starting to see it.
Woke is part of it, but I think the economic downturn is even more of it. People have less disposable income for things like $80 video games. Meanwhile the employees need raises to maintain their standard of living vs inflation. If gaming weren't already pissing off cusomers with the woke stuff, then there might be more staying power - customers might be more attached to their games and make cuts on other things to keep buyi g games. But we were already seeing a slowdown before covid. Now that post covid, post Ukraine, post mass migration inflation is strangling the economy in general, luxuries like AAA gaming are going to get the axe first. Same for Hollywood and Disney.
A lot of people grew up not understanding that their actions could have consequences, and it shows.
It’s interesting that the Sweet Baby chaos is taking place simultaneously. They’re literally connected.
I knew it, I have been calling this out at work MULTIPLE TIMES especially with all the live-service trash, bad game directions from garbage companies. The Day Before was the BIGGEST red flag of all this debacle.
Yep been saying this for years ….gaming is killing itself
Gaming addiction is real. I'm happy that many people are able to pull away from the abuse of the gaming industry.
can art be art if the artist has a gun to their head and a bunch of quotas to fill?
They just need to dime and nickel the customer base more.
No games. No PMO.
They say things get ruined when they get popular, thats not really true.
Things get ruined when they get popular with women.
Meanwhile the Indie scene is better than ever.
In the last five years, there have been two great (Pathfinder Kingmaker and WotR) and three good (JA3, Baldur's Gate 3 and Warhammer 40K: Rogue Trader) games. THAT'S IT!
Notice how three out of the five were made by Owlcat.
Helldivers 2
Gamergate and it's consequences have been a disaster for the videogame industry.
IMHO let the big studios burrrn!!!
Force them to sell off the IP to the old guards.
That's pretty much why Palworld is doing so well. It was a small dev team going "wouldn't it be cool if?".
Time to re-open that landfill full of ET games from the early 80s and start adding games like Suicide Squad.
I do believe women are most affected, but that's because they were overwhelmingly recent hires who were mostly only brought in to maintain a quota for blackrock. If Blackrock's money dries up then these companies don't need them anymore, simple as. It's the big downside of not being hired for your skills and why i would never accept a job as a token (x) person
Yes, yes, is all of a sudden and for no reason at all..... the more things change
Urinate on your target market.
Target market runs away.
Call your target market, " urinephobes " in a screechy voice.
👍
All those millions of dollars just to turn their projects into buggy, piles of crap just shows you how much embezzling is happening in these "Gaming Companies"
"I will lie in bricks at the end of the ambush"
Well deserved. If you're not a coder or an animator, you don't need to be a paid "developer."
PLEASE don't force me to imagine a $70 AAA Helltaker sequel for modern audiences
One thing is that to fix the numbers you have to fire efficient employees and then hire these humanities people who somehow are less useful and more expensive.
Remember, doing the right thing and saving humanity and being empathetic and nice and a decent human being and fixing historical injustices comes at a very, and I mean VERY, very, very-very hefty premium.
Some crazy told me the economy is doing great because "look at the S&P500" 😂😂😂
the elephant in the room is that the commissars cannot control what people want in games.
What a great aproach. Same thing happening to be movies due to the exact same reasons
Romero has always been a meme. Carmack was the only real brains from that operation and even he has lost his mind.
Which elephant? We have a whole herd in here
"maybe we should do something to keep these jobs we've inserted ourselves into" lol
Only took them 15 years to realize it.
They always realised it dude. Its done on purpose.
"...and that's a good thing." 😉
I left the industry around 2021 and got into Finance.
The gaslighting and cult mentality is real in studios and publisher houses, it had it coming.
If you're still makinf games, do yourself a favour and find an alternative source of income. It's a nice way of saying; find another job while you still can.
Sometimes it's almost like these leftists don't understand cause an effect.
It's more like Triple A Gaming Crash, cuz indies still kicking and running
It's disturbing how fast the DEI people went from," everyone should be seen". to the Thought Police so fast.
a tale as old as Maoism and the Soviet Union...
They were always militant Communists. You're just finally catching on.
That's what they always were. They lied until they got power, and then pulled out the daggers. Just like every single other time in the past. Lie until you get power, then abuse it to make sure you keep power.
A recent example: They used to say that 'gay is just a lifestyle choice you have to tolerate' (80s and 90s) and 'no one is arguing for gay marriage' (90s and early 2000s). Then, suddenly, anyone who said homosexuality was a lifestyle choice or who didn't support gay marriage was an evil bigot who got fired. Not even exaggerating; the founder of Mozilla was fired simply for donating to a political cause his commie woke bosses didn't like. That one scientist was fired from Google for correctly describing intelligence curves among men and women. There were many other, less famous examples.
Always has been.