The Last Of Us Blames The Audience For It's Failure

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  • Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2024

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  • @TheTrollVtuber
    @TheTrollVtuber  8 месяцев назад +18

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    • @ShadiC636
      @ShadiC636 8 месяцев назад

      Running away from their own responsibilities and failures, and shifting the blame as per usual. Didn’t these people learn in a business course that “The Customer is Always Right”? Did they HAVE a business course?

    • @pipbernadotte6707
      @pipbernadotte6707 8 месяцев назад

      Butt Fucking Bill and Filthy Frank

  • @An_Imperial_Guard.
    @An_Imperial_Guard. 8 месяцев назад +501

    They removed everything likable about Ellie, and then they put a mini stereotypical rude tryhard lesbian character instead of her. The only thing they miss was giving her a stupid colored haircut.

    • @firstnamelastname5612
      @firstnamelastname5612 8 месяцев назад

      So true. They literally made her a whiny kid. Never mind ugly, why cast an English girl for Ellie? I'm English it's stupid, she can't do a convincing American accent? It'd be different if her character wasn't of supposed to have grown up in an American military camp😂?

    • @TexasHollowEarth
      @TexasHollowEarth 8 месяцев назад +41

      A goblin for Ellie + a fake bolillo for Joel 💀💀

    • @aj.j5833
      @aj.j5833 8 месяцев назад +39

      So when Ellie be Elliot?

    • @TheMaleRei
      @TheMaleRei 8 месяцев назад +18

      @@aj.j5833
      Only if there's surgery and hormones involved.

    • @AntiRiku
      @AntiRiku 8 месяцев назад +41

      @@livamath6733 If I'm not mistaken that was only retroactively added with the DLC and nothing in the original said anything about it. Also, OP clearly said ''..mini stereotypical rude tryhard lesbian'' and not just ''lesbian''.

  • @JustSomeReptile
    @JustSomeReptile 8 месяцев назад +553

    I'm glad there's people who aren't worshipping this show like a typical tlou fan.

    • @Garoslol
      @Garoslol 8 месяцев назад +96

      I just cant stand Pedro Pascal being casted for everything.

    • @jessie801000
      @jessie801000 8 месяцев назад +33

      “Hey look it’s Ron Swanson…”
      “Oh…”

    • @alexghost2099
      @alexghost2099 8 месяцев назад +61

      @@Garoslolthey really forcing him onto roles that don’t fit. At best he’s mid

    • @RambleOn07
      @RambleOn07 8 месяцев назад +3

      He was only good in that Nic Cage movie something something talent.​@@Garoslol

    • @Garoslol
      @Garoslol 8 месяцев назад +14

      @@RambleOn07Nah I liked him in Narcos, Game of Thrones and Mandalorian with helmet on but current stuff is kinda bad.

  • @Snakedude4life
    @Snakedude4life 8 месяцев назад +261

    “We interrupt your show about pseudo father/daughter bonding during a zombie apocalypse to bring you a wispy, nothing story about two gay dudes.”
    Pass
    🎩
    🐍 no step on snek!🇺🇸🇭🇰

  • @GermoDante
    @GermoDante 8 месяцев назад +441

    Bro, that show was like 9 episodes and half of them were all about gay people. It's a gay soap opera.

    • @osvaldojaviergalleguillosh8402
      @osvaldojaviergalleguillosh8402 8 месяцев назад +66

      Do you have the interviews when the writer said that he felt like "hiding the carrot in the food" when he made the gay scene with those two characters. I think that vee showed but im too lazy to search it myself

    • @rpgadventurer32
      @rpgadventurer32 8 месяцев назад +51

      Well, 2 of them were dedicated to same sex couples, but I get your point, the relationship in ep 3 wasn't what it was in the game at all, they changed it completely to push a certain massage.

    • @osvaldojaviergalleguillosh8402
      @osvaldojaviergalleguillosh8402 8 месяцев назад

      @@rpgadventurer32 i will be annoying, i still need the saucy source

    • @nadrewod999
      @nadrewod999 8 месяцев назад +34

      And the only place to go for season 2 is to start it off with a golf episode...

    • @TheMaleRei
      @TheMaleRei 8 месяцев назад

      @@nadrewod999
      FORE!

  • @RambleOn07
    @RambleOn07 8 месяцев назад +209

    "... truly independent." Says the guy doing the most establishment storyline possible that is done for wealthy activist groups with a major studio. Truly independent.

    • @jackhazardous4008
      @jackhazardous4008 8 месяцев назад +12

      Sometimes you need one of the big guys at your back to be truly independent

    • @АндрейНеугодников-м6е
      @АндрейНеугодников-м6е 8 месяцев назад +3

      How come that activists groups are wealthy?

    • @endlessstrata6988
      @endlessstrata6988 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@jackhazardous4008 "You'll be independent, or else..."

    • @P.Whitestrake
      @P.Whitestrake 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@АндрейНеугодников-м6е The elites are backing them.

  • @r.e.z9428
    @r.e.z9428 8 месяцев назад +185

    It was a GAY-STORY, because it was complete fan-fiction compared to what actually happened. The characters involved were similar in name only and anyone who says otherwise is just delusional.

    • @athatcher9367
      @athatcher9367 8 месяцев назад +21

      They did the stupid gay-love story episode that had nothing to do with the story I came to see and I thought, “okay, one more chance, if they bite me again then I’m done with the show.”
      Then they went off about how Jackson is a communist settlement…. And I stopped watching. They wanted to tell a story that I wasn’t interested in.

    • @lloydgush
      @lloydgush 8 месяцев назад +2

      And the actual story is actually interesting.
      You know they are gay through a note, and it's a very interesting one.

    • @r.e.z9428
      @r.e.z9428 8 месяцев назад +17

      @@lloydgush Its called subtly, but the showrunners didn’t have the balls to show a toxic gay relationship (if there was) that ended in tragedy. It took away Bill and Joels interactions and Ellie. Bill was supposed to be a mirror for what Joel could end up like if he gave up, but naw. Just give him a letter and have it all be flashbacks.

    • @lloydgush
      @lloydgush 8 месяцев назад +4

      @@r.e.z9428 but the toxicity is the reason why it's interesting.
      The whole point of "survival isn't everything" debate sparked over it.

    • @r.e.z9428
      @r.e.z9428 8 месяцев назад +8

      @@lloydgush I agree, but again, the writers didn’t have the balls. Also doesn’t help that they changed everything else in the show too. Its almost as bad as that Halo TV show or Witcher in my book.

  • @Jake-uk8sj
    @Jake-uk8sj 8 месяцев назад +79

    Whiterun guard: "I used to be an adventurer like you until I took a D in the A"

    • @browhatwhere
      @browhatwhere 8 месяцев назад

      @Thundah i am antivaxx and have none of these things go sheep somewhere else drone

  • @themultiversalmagpie7827
    @themultiversalmagpie7827 8 месяцев назад +226

    The problem with the last of us tv show is every conversation with someone who wants to know about it goes like this “should I watch this?” “No play the game”

    • @B.L.S.
      @B.L.S. 8 месяцев назад +16

      The game is trash too.

    • @themultiversalmagpie7827
      @themultiversalmagpie7827 8 месяцев назад +50

      @@B.L.S. no the first game is fine as long as you don’t remember it made Sony obsessed with that kind of game

    • @nadrewod999
      @nadrewod999 8 месяцев назад +60

      The first game is good.
      The sequel is complete trash, as is the first game's DLC, and should be completely avoided at all costs.

    • @themultiversalmagpie7827
      @themultiversalmagpie7827 8 месяцев назад +9

      @@nadrewod999 I agree

    • @ComposedSage75
      @ComposedSage75 8 месяцев назад +11

      The first game was good imo. Second game doesn’t exist to me.

  • @Phaeron123
    @Phaeron123 8 месяцев назад +34

    I love how he was so proud to focus on how he snuck a gay love story and like carrots into our brownies. But the moment people reject it, it's not a gay story. It's just a love story.

  • @bluecoin3771
    @bluecoin3771 8 месяцев назад +80

    So sad that Ron Swanson has to settle for this actor to portray him.

    • @Sentinel82
      @Sentinel82 8 месяцев назад

      Maybe it's Ron Swanson who is actually acting like this guy as a mockery. 😂

  • @DarkstarArchangel
    @DarkstarArchangel 8 месяцев назад +41

    The race-card, the orientation-card, and the gender-card. . . Basically the prejudice-card and finger-pointing, the most overused knee-jerk reaction to deny bad writing.
    They will ALWAYS FAIL and not be saved when they do this, it fits the definition of insanity.

  • @cookiecreep9204
    @cookiecreep9204 8 месяцев назад +143

    The original was neither a gay nor love story though. It was much more interesting, far less boring too, much more intense.
    And I'm not going to forget director of this stupid show openly saying he wanted to use the show to inject his activism...

    • @Alex_Fahey
      @Alex_Fahey 8 месяцев назад +16

      ​​@@tonywatts2584Going by memory of the game but it's been a while, so forgive me if I mix up some details with some other story.
      In the game, it was an implication of possible homosexual relations with one of them being interested in men going by a "fashion magazine" he owned which was rather sticky on certain pages. Whether Frank felt that way also is unclear. They never held hands or called each other "my love" in the game (and one of them had been dead for a while when they entered the story which doesn't help in resolving this). In fact, they seemed to have a generally rocky relationship like you might find between two people who don't really like the other's personality but are forced to cooperate. Maybe that was meant to appear like an estranged/divorced couple. However, it did not clearly show that because no evidence was in the game of a relationship beyond what was necessary for survival. For all we know, it could have been the homosexuality that forced them apart because Frank found out Bill was interested in him but did not return the affection.

    • @AxisChurchDevotee
      @AxisChurchDevotee 8 месяцев назад +22

      @@tonywatts2584 it was never said or shown in game. All we knew is there was that Bill was attached to Frank but after Bill and co find Frank dead and the note from him saying how much he hates Bill. It was left open for interpretation and wasn't shoved in your face.

    • @cookiecreep9204
      @cookiecreep9204 8 месяцев назад +20

      @@tonywatts2584 you... Do know "partner" also has non-sexual meanings, right?

    • @AxisChurchDevotee
      @AxisChurchDevotee 8 месяцев назад +10

      @@tonywatts2584 Regardless Frank didn't share that feeling given his note says he hated Bill and tried running off with his stuff so it wasn't virtue signaling.

    • @nojuansbusiness8923
      @nojuansbusiness8923 8 месяцев назад

      @@tonywatts2584don’t be gae, the human race depends on it.

  • @rodrigghost
    @rodrigghost 8 месяцев назад +53

    3:39 Same moronic mentality as the director of Spider-Man 2, with his "injection" of Mary Jaws's missions... "Yeah, we know people don't like to play as a regular human being in a super hero game, so let's put more of those missions, also a deaf girl mission doing graffiti as a bonus"

    • @RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
      @RoronoaZoro-ur6hr 8 месяцев назад +3

      playing as MJ without any advanced technology to defend herself is like playing a One Piece game where you'd play as ordinary people that aren't bounty hunters, pirates, marines, or revolutionaries, which that game wouldn't make any profits at all, but it'd also bankrupt the company that made that game.

  • @HyakuSh1ki
    @HyakuSh1ki 8 месяцев назад +154

    Don't forget, the original Mortal Kombat movie is still the best game to movie adaptation to this day. It's incredible what happens when you give your audience what they actually want.

    • @stevenscott2718
      @stevenscott2718 8 месяцев назад +51

      More camp than the scouts, more cheese than Wisconsin, All entertainment.

    • @hgriff14
      @hgriff14 8 месяцев назад +3

      Den of thieves is basically GTA5 so i count that lol

    • @bc-cu4on
      @bc-cu4on 8 месяцев назад +11

      How about the live action Street Fighter?

    • @silverprimus321boi9
      @silverprimus321boi9 8 месяцев назад +18

      I'd argue the sonic movies sit up there.

    • @stevenscott2718
      @stevenscott2718 8 месяцев назад +8

      @@bc-cu4on too many tents of camp, and avalance of cheese killed a free people, not as entertaining. Best bits where Kylie being thhe least convincing soldier on tv and Raoul eating the scenary.

  • @lemond2007
    @lemond2007 8 месяцев назад +213

    Nick Offerman feels he needs to atone for his many years of playing a massively popular right-wing libertarian character.

    • @MauricioOsuna-et8et
      @MauricioOsuna-et8et 8 месяцев назад +60

      He did say he is the entire opposite of Ron Swanson IRL, which is a testament of how good of an actor he can be when he wants to.

    • @chesterstevens8870
      @chesterstevens8870 8 месяцев назад +50

      People live their lives according to the Pyramid of Swanson, whereas nobody gives a shriveled rat turd about what Nick Offerman thinks or says.

    • @marcwood2741
      @marcwood2741 8 месяцев назад +16

      It was always over the top mockery- like Colbert when he did the right wing bit

    • @HNedel
      @HNedel 8 месяцев назад +30

      @@marcwood2741probably, but he was still the best character in the show, by far

    • @ffs6158
      @ffs6158 8 месяцев назад +20

      It's given him unmeasurable levels of psychic damage. God is good.

  • @PeterDanielBerg
    @PeterDanielBerg 8 месяцев назад +136

    it's very telling that nearly all spongebob memes are from the first four or five seasons and the first movie, and very little at all from anything later

    • @JohnnyRose775
      @JohnnyRose775 8 месяцев назад +17

      The movie serves as a pretty good ending for the series

    • @PeterDanielBerg
      @PeterDanielBerg 8 месяцев назад +6

      @@JohnnyRose775 well the movie came out between seasons 3 and 4. there's a handful of memorable episodes after the movie like The Original Fry Cook, Gary Come Home, Not Normal, the handsome Squidward episode, and the power within. but they get fewer and further between.

    • @j.k.4479
      @j.k.4479 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@PeterDanielBerg Spongebob went downhill have the creator, Stephen Hillenburg left the series. So basically around seasons 3 and 4.

    • @JohnnyRose775
      @JohnnyRose775 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@PeterDanielBerg That’s fair. I forget when I stopped enjoying SpongeBob since it’s been so many years

    • @PeterDanielBerg
      @PeterDanielBerg 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@JohnnyRose775 i remember even as a kid when i didn't know spongebob had "seasons" i noticed a trend where the focus of a new episode would be introducing a relative of an existing character. its like how the simpsons started doing "the simpsons go to (place)" a few times a season...

  • @ipostlamememesallthetime953
    @ipostlamememesallthetime953 8 месяцев назад +63

    Seems like DEI/ESG isn't selling or popular 🤔🤔🤔

    • @Saint_Wolf_
      @Saint_Wolf_ 8 месяцев назад +12

      Larry Fink be like: ACCELERATE! CRASH THIS ECONOMY WITH NO SURVIVIORS!

    • @TexasHollowEarth
      @TexasHollowEarth 8 месяцев назад +4

      Sweet Baby trash failing left and right 👍😎👍

    • @matthewzumbo9868
      @matthewzumbo9868 8 месяцев назад

      Thats the entire; its not supposed to be popular, it’s supposed to crash the economy and push people into accepting a worldwide communist hegemony

  • @vardamirithor6590
    @vardamirithor6590 8 месяцев назад +43

    Now that you say, I have never seen a Wheel of Time Show meme out in the wild.

    • @greatclubsandwich5612
      @greatclubsandwich5612 8 месяцев назад +4

      Maybe memes mocking them. Ive seen Rings of power memes about the show being shit.

    • @agentsmithmememe
      @agentsmithmememe 8 месяцев назад

      The books were awesome,as was the video game

    • @vardamirithor6590
      @vardamirithor6590 8 месяцев назад

      @@agentsmithmememe The books are the best (or almost, the Professor's work is unbeatable) and the memes based on the books are also top notch. Mostly.

  • @Lonovavir
    @Lonovavir 8 месяцев назад +27

    Didn't Disney do this a few days ago? I tell you modern "leadership" is great at blaming everyone else for their mistakes.

    • @TitanKaiju75
      @TitanKaiju75 8 месяцев назад

      It's the *ONLY* thing they're good at unfortunately.

  • @Underworlddream
    @Underworlddream 8 месяцев назад +28

    The actor is famous for his character Ron Swanson who sort of a conservative icon, notice that they have him play a gay characters and recenlty they have him be the evil president in the Civil War movie.

    • @mezrre4630
      @mezrre4630 8 месяцев назад +5

      Ron Swanson is a libertarian icon not conservative. He was the best man at a gay wedding.

    • @CharlesUrban
      @CharlesUrban 8 месяцев назад +3

      I am so psyched for the crazy Civil War movie, and not because I think that it's going to be good. Quite the opposite, actually. I want to know what happened that the writers thought was so horrible that it would force Texas and California to work together.

    • @jodi2847
      @jodi2847 8 месяцев назад +2

      @4630 I'm a conservative, and I'd stand up at a gay wedding. We're not inherently anti-gay. Hell, there's even gay conservatives.

    • @Beuwen_The_Dragon
      @Beuwen_The_Dragon 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@CharlesUrban the only way a Cali-Texas alliance could work, is if Cali and Texas both Seceded for different reasons, but simply Allied Militarily to Fight off the Federal Government from dragging them back into the union.
      Ie, separate yet similar goals, entirely different motivations.

  • @midwestfinest9563
    @midwestfinest9563 8 месяцев назад +63

    So Nick trying to shame me into watching his show, nice attempt I guess

  • @VeraldoAncodini
    @VeraldoAncodini 8 месяцев назад +104

    It's not a phobia, it's pure disgust and it's absolutely normal to be disgusted.

    • @Armameteus
      @Armameteus 8 месяцев назад +17

      -"phobia" means "fear". It's not fear; it's revulsion. It would be more appropriate to use "-odium", which means "hatred" or "contempt".

    • @Samagachi
      @Samagachi 8 месяцев назад +5

      @@Armameteus homodium?

    • @Armameteus
      @Armameteus 8 месяцев назад +8

      @@Samagachi Sounds like some kind of medicated ointment.

    • @theALTF4
      @theALTF4 8 месяцев назад +1

      B A S E D

  • @JaketheJust
    @JaketheJust 8 месяцев назад +58

    Okay why was this love story in there in the first place? The Last of Us is supposed to be a father/daughter relationship story with Joel and Ellie. Why did we have an entire plot line with a support character? Honestly I wanted to see Ron Swanson and Lady Lyanna Mormont come face to face, but they didn’t even give us that.

    • @davidwilson6577
      @davidwilson6577 8 месяцев назад

      Because they had the space for a side episode to explore the world and a solid story to tell with it? Why not?

    • @Renny2077
      @Renny2077 8 месяцев назад +15

      ESG reasons.

    • @Getoffmyhair
      @Getoffmyhair 8 месяцев назад +16

      @@davidwilson6577because it’s a zombie show, not gay romance story time hour.

    • @davidwilson6577
      @davidwilson6577 8 месяцев назад

      @@Getoffmyhair Zombie stories do tend to be more about the characters going through it than the fact that there are zombies. Like any other genre, really.

    • @vonfaustien3957
      @vonfaustien3957 8 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@davidwilson6577except they didn't they had to rush and skip a lot of key character moments with Joel and Eile to fit in that gay episoide.

  • @renwulf1695
    @renwulf1695 8 месяцев назад +15

    Random fan asks a question.
    Nick "NPC" Offerman: "HoW dArE yOu!"

  • @seventhsun1982
    @seventhsun1982 8 месяцев назад +12

    They can force their agendas into the public lexicon but they can never force the people to care.

  • @syko2164
    @syko2164 8 месяцев назад +37

    I blame the "Last of Us" for not making a good show for me watch. Frieren is so much better than most things I've watched. It reminds me of how good the original Berserk is.
    RIP Kentaro

    • @AscendantStoic
      @AscendantStoic 8 месяцев назад

      Frieren is in a whole different universe from western trash.

    • @TexasHollowEarth
      @TexasHollowEarth 8 месяцев назад +5

      Original '97 Berserk complete Japanese TV series is coming out on Blu-Ray in March! Are you READY!? I got mine pre-ordered 👊😎👍

    • @originaldatagate2
      @originaldatagate2 8 месяцев назад +1

      @TexasHollowEarth Put your grasses on, nothing will be wrong.

  • @terotcard
    @terotcard 8 месяцев назад +28

    People arnt upset that Bill and Frank were gay in the show. Theyre upset that their story in the show is the complete opposite to the game. In the game Joel and Ellie meet up with Bill in his town who recently parted ways with his "Partner" Bill makes a couple comments about Tess without realizing she died recently and in the end they find Frank dead with a note saying how much he hates Bill. the whole story is to drill into Joel not to get attached because this is not a world that is kind to attached people. It also serves as a counterpoint to when Joel reunites with Tommy. Joel from the moment he started looking for Tommy was nervous about seeing him, not knowing if they were still in bad terms. But when he Meets Tommy again he finds him thriving with a wife and child on the way, and he has let go of the bad blood between them. Their connection is strong and healthy unlike Bill and Frank's

    • @iambob6590
      @iambob6590 8 месяцев назад +2

      Did they try the commie town thing in the game?

    • @terotcard
      @terotcard 8 месяцев назад +7

      @iambob6590 there is a town but you dont make it fown there, Joel runs into Tommy at the electrical dam they're working on, but no there is no mention of communism in the game as far as I remember

    • @RyanGannon-z7m
      @RyanGannon-z7m 8 месяцев назад +9

      @6590 There's none of that crap in the game all the people seemed authentic just surviving the only idealist I would say would be the fireflies doing anything to find a cure by any means necessary, Hence why I smoked all of them at the end of the game.

    • @Beuwen_The_Dragon
      @Beuwen_The_Dragon 8 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@iambob6590 No, the Commie Town is not in the Game, that was created for the Show.
      Joel's brother does run a Settlement/town, but there is no mention of Communism or 'being a commune" in the game.

    • @Sentinel82
      @Sentinel82 8 месяцев назад

      Keep in mind the original game wasn't a creation of Neil Drukman.
      He is basically the Kathleen Kennedy of the series....Harmless in the background, but universe destroying when put in charge. 🤣

  • @CoryAkabueze
    @CoryAkabueze 8 месяцев назад +40

    All the respect I had for nick offerman just went down the drain after that statement

    • @nadrewod999
      @nadrewod999 8 месяцев назад +23

      Don't be fooled by the character that Nick Offerman played on Parks & Rec: his actual political beliefs are typical Hollywood bubble nonsense, as shown by the character on the original show of "Ron Swanson's leftist brother".

    • @freak9890
      @freak9890 8 месяцев назад +17

      @@nadrewod999 Yeah, it's kind of hilarious that the character in that show is the literal opposite of him in real life. Guess there's a reason people idolize the character, but almost no one knows or cares about the actor behind the role.

    • @Unpainted_Huffhines
      @Unpainted_Huffhines 8 месяцев назад +8

      Ron Swanson was a character worthy of respect.
      Nick Offerman... not so much.
      People often confuse the two.

    • @user-og6hl6lv7p
      @user-og6hl6lv7p 8 месяцев назад

      He is the modern day Archie Bunker.

    • @hassathunter2464
      @hassathunter2464 8 месяцев назад +1

      You had some post TloU2 😮

  • @automated_ascii
    @automated_ascii 8 месяцев назад +15

    As one of the many people who didn't watch The Last of Us, I can confirm that I did not watch, nor remember, the show.

  • @zimtage1744
    @zimtage1744 8 месяцев назад +25

    I blame the lack of audience for its failure.

    • @chriswihulu
      @chriswihulu 8 месяцев назад +3

      That'd imply it would've been a success, if more people watched, as if the product wasn't bad in and of itself 😂

    • @TheMaleRei
      @TheMaleRei 8 месяцев назад +5

      @@chriswihulu
      Well, I mean, by definition - if there *had* been a large enough audience - it *would* have been a success...
      I mean, people eat slop all the time, and slop sells pretty well.
      But if a different kind of slop is put on the market, and no one wants it... Well...

  • @followertheleader
    @followertheleader 8 месяцев назад +6

    The game just mentioned a gay character while running through backyards full of infected in search of a battery. The show dedicated a whole episode to a relationship instead of the battery.

  • @TurtleChad1
    @TurtleChad1 8 месяцев назад +132

    Who remembers when the last of us was actually a good video game?

    • @24framedavinci39
      @24framedavinci39 8 месяцев назад +48

      Never. The first one wasn't good either. Generic zombie game that took no risks with the story or gameplay. It was mid on every level.

    • @stormeaglegaming5395
      @stormeaglegaming5395 8 месяцев назад

      Pepperidge remembers

    • @zaphael7238
      @zaphael7238 8 месяцев назад +6

      The story was good, the game play was not my cup of tea, I will not say it was bad, because I do not enjoy stealth games. The second game was a hard no for me, I didn’t like that they lied to their consumer base. I felt betrayed. I which is kinda funny since game companies lie all the time, but, Naughty Dawg was known for it’s fun games and giving customers what they wanted for the most part.

    • @Solon_The_Lich
      @Solon_The_Lich 8 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@24framedavinci39TLOU was not amazing, The Lust Of Ass is all the mid you say, add to it a DEI checklist

    • @kernsanders3973
      @kernsanders3973 8 месяцев назад +13

      "I almost made a misogynistic game" - Niel Druckman on TLOU 1 dev. It was a the first slow goal post moving. Was it good? Sure, because it was initially meant to be a good game, but then during dev, Niel started going woke and since then been moving the goal post more and more

  • @Mermiam
    @Mermiam 8 месяцев назад +57

    Weird he's not calling the director an A-hole since they said openly they wanted to trick people into watching a gay romance.

    • @King_QM23
      @King_QM23 8 месяцев назад +14

      You saw that 2. They literally turned an episode fr a hour long and I’m like wtf

    • @stevenscott2718
      @stevenscott2718 8 месяцев назад

      Not gay romance, gay softcore porn.

  • @Booma4142
    @Booma4142 8 месяцев назад +6

    The magic words aren't working anymore. Phobe, ist and all their variants no longer silence critics.

  • @SpartanTrigger
    @SpartanTrigger 8 месяцев назад +69

    If I want to watch a gay romance I’ll watch a Yuri series … at least the creators of those know what their audience wants

    • @Saint_Wolf_
      @Saint_Wolf_ 8 месяцев назад +12

      Same for girl on girl, Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid is literally a love story between two women and it compels me more than anything any westerner can put out.

    • @SpartanTrigger
      @SpartanTrigger 8 месяцев назад +6

      @@Saint_Wolf_it’s honestly a really cute series and definitely deserves the praise , I’d highly suggest Citrus too

    • @Saint_Wolf_
      @Saint_Wolf_ 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@UsernamesHandle Kobayashi is literally a woman and so is Tohru? The rest is just a regular magical housewife and salary man hubby but it's still sweet.

    • @SpartanTrigger
      @SpartanTrigger 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@Saint_Wolf_ Lucoa is my favorite, but most of the characters are great though

    • @SpartanTrigger
      @SpartanTrigger 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@UsernamesHandle oh they do 😂

  • @asleepinthewoods3178
    @asleepinthewoods3178 8 месяцев назад +20

    My reaction to it was disinterest. I don't want to watch a show for a game I played 10 years ago.

    • @mrshmuga9
      @mrshmuga9 8 месяцев назад

      Especially when it’s not long enough to go into any more (substantial) depth than the game. The show would have to have TLOU 1 be 20 episodes or 2 seasons to have the room to gain anything new from. But it was only about 10, and they’re quickly ditching it for TLOU 2 when more people care about the original game.

    • @billybonregularjin
      @billybonregularjin 8 месяцев назад

      @ga9I think the tv show was just a basic, hey remember TLOU? Don't you want to buy the remaster again? Which may have worked if they didn't tell 20-50% of their fans to f off. Hell writing this is reminding me of the TLOU2 Ellie merch gathering dust on the discount rack at my local store.

  • @大-g4b5
    @大-g4b5 8 месяцев назад +5

    Could have fooled me. I didn't think they knew what love was.

  • @Butiguessilovememore
    @Butiguessilovememore 8 месяцев назад +11

    In like 8 episodes we got 2 alphabet soup filler episodes in a zombie apocalypse shown 😂. Ive seen actually decent anime filler episodes get more heat...

  • @NicholasBrakespear
    @NicholasBrakespear 8 месяцев назад +4

    One of the reasons actors should never, ever weigh in on any controversy concerning viewers not liking something - the actors don't watch this stuff. They're not fans of it. Some of them don't like watching themselves, others just generally don't have time/inclination to watch the show they're actually starring in.
    If you see what happened with Star Trek Picard, you'll see perfect examples - the stars of Star Trek: TNG... demonstrating that they don't actually have any idea what their own show was about, don't care about its lore, don't care about continuity or internal logic, don't care about the spirit of the thing. Because they don't watch it. They're actors, not sci-fi fans.

  • @MettleHurlant
    @MettleHurlant 8 месяцев назад +6

    I’m done with zombie apocalypse stuff on tv when I can just go downtown and see it in person. If audiences don’t want to watch your show, they don’t need a reason.

  • @bmardiney
    @bmardiney 8 месяцев назад +130

    Sorry Nick, it’s a gay story. The same way if you portray a story about someone loving a dog, it’s a dog story, not a love story. Love stories are man and woman because 95% of the population is straight and how children are created.

    • @frustratedsquirrel
      @frustratedsquirrel 8 месяцев назад +1

      Love isn’t about making children though. If that was the main objective, it would be a ‘family’ story.

    • @bmardiney
      @bmardiney 8 месяцев назад +23

      @@frustratedsquirrel The evolutionary reason for romantic love is to create children. Also get this: nearly everything is about creating children.

    • @M0butu
      @M0butu 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@bmardineymade, not created.
      created insinuates it's a creative process with several options.

    • @bmardiney
      @bmardiney 8 месяцев назад +4

      @@M0butu huh? The word is proCREATION.

    • @randomusername3873
      @randomusername3873 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@bmardineyas if we live based on evolutionary purposes, lol

  • @nobodyshome6792
    @nobodyshome6792 8 месяцев назад +8

    The fans are the route to success. The issue is that one must please the FANS, and not cater to those who admitted to not even playing the game in the first place.
    I'm an outsider looking in. Never played the games, haven't seen the show.
    I do know that the fans were promised one thing, and those promises weren't delivered on.
    Which is a serious issue facing a lot of media companies right now.

  • @snappertrx
    @snappertrx 8 месяцев назад +3

    I say we coin a new term: Homorepulsed, or something similar. Homophobic insinuates someone is afraid of a gay person, when really we're just kind of grossed out.

  • @darkguardian1314
    @darkguardian1314 8 месяцев назад +4

    "Duckman's" arrogance killed it with a golf club in the basement.😂

  • @shenotski
    @shenotski 8 месяцев назад +11

    It’s even worse he had his animators recreate memes with the in game characters

  • @MundaneThingsBackwards
    @MundaneThingsBackwards 8 месяцев назад +5

    The hilarious bit is that even if the gay couple were changed to a man and a woman, the episode would still be considered filler cringe nobody interested either in the source material nor the 'zombie' survivor, father daughter story in a broad sense would give a shit about. These are tertiary characters eating up an already limited run time. The main characters don't even have an developed and compelling relationship at this point (arguably it never happens in the show...) so taking the focus away from them is doubly insulting. We all know why the episode was included. Precisely BECAUSE it's a gay story and not a love story. Offerman is a hack.

    • @johnwiks2597
      @johnwiks2597 8 месяцев назад

      Yep, would be more interesting and about as relevant, to watch 2 elephant skin rugs go at it.

  • @fearthehoneybadger
    @fearthehoneybadger 8 месяцев назад +9

    Now it's the fans fault when the creators do a shit job.

  • @mantasr
    @mantasr 8 месяцев назад +31

    The failure was also making the girl ugly on purpose.

    • @redninja3056
      @redninja3056 8 месяцев назад +1

      You mean the 14 year that you shouldn't be attracted to anyway? That one?

    • @ComicGladiator
      @ComicGladiator 8 месяцев назад +10

      @@redninja3056 "This potted plant is ugly"
      "yOuR'e NoT mEaNt To FiNd It SeXuAlLy AtTrAcTiVe!1!1"

    • @DMaster8686
      @DMaster8686 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@redninja3056 Why do i have the feeling that you are projecting hard? No one is talking about attraction here, except you.

    • @redninja3056
      @redninja3056 8 месяцев назад

      @@DMaster8686 well you would be incorrect, like usual and it I'm saying it shouldn't matter what a 14 year old looks like it's not like your attached to her right?

    • @redninja3056
      @redninja3056 8 месяцев назад

      @@ComicGladiator well do you get unhinged because a plant is ugly if so you need help

  • @brei2670
    @brei2670 8 месяцев назад +8

    "The same way that a mother sneaks the carrot inside a broccoli" ...
    No, Vee, that trick doesn't work, lmao.
    But I guess the wrong analogy actually works for this show...

  • @madcat789
    @madcat789 8 месяцев назад +6

    I like your little Trogg avatar. He's a cool dude.

  • @StonieTark
    @StonieTark 8 месяцев назад +5

    I never watched it but i remember the director bragging about 'tricking' people into watching a gay romance. I dont care for romance so why would i watch it.

    • @TheMaleRei
      @TheMaleRei 8 месяцев назад +3

      Anyone who gloats about "tricking" someone into doing something said someone doesn't want or wish to do-
      They typically are not good or virtuous people.

  • @Ashkihyena
    @Ashkihyena 8 месяцев назад +154

    Or your show was just shit…

    • @Wolfman7870
      @Wolfman7870 8 месяцев назад

      And all roads lead to Abby so what is even the point?

  • @E_DIsos
    @E_DIsos 8 месяцев назад +4

    When I hear about TLoU I'm remembering that doctor in late pregnancy stage climbing fences ang going in the warzone during the second game.

  • @nightwishfan1991
    @nightwishfan1991 8 месяцев назад +3

    Going on the meme thing. I follow a ton of Game of Thrones meme pages. And my God whenever a new season would air the first nano second of footage there were already memes. It was like people in a desert finding water after months of nothing. It was always fun to get the new batch of memes. Even when House of the Dragon came out those pages went full "Looks like memes are back on the menu boys!". So when a show doesn't have memes it really says something.

  • @viermidebutura
    @viermidebutura 8 месяцев назад +7

    how a mother sneaks a carrot in a brownie not in a broccoli

  • @ImortalEnvy
    @ImortalEnvy 8 месяцев назад +4

    Tbh the only romance I ever actually enjoyed was Dizzy and Ricko romance ark in star ship troopers.

  • @formdusktilldeath
    @formdusktilldeath 8 месяцев назад +4

    If you establish yoourelf as the gay franchis, you get the audience numbers of one.

  • @LoneWolf-wp9dn
    @LoneWolf-wp9dn 8 месяцев назад +5

    Two lesbians on a farm is a real meme in the indy movie world

    • @thepatriarchy8443
      @thepatriarchy8443 8 месяцев назад +2

      Like the "two gay cowboys eating pudding?" That's an underrated South Park episode, imo.

  • @EnclaveApex
    @EnclaveApex 8 месяцев назад +6

    Someone's got hemorrhoids...
    Oh wait.

    • @TexasHollowEarth
      @TexasHollowEarth 8 месяцев назад +2

      .... Tosserman has left. He already had his 'shit packed' 🤣👉🤡

  • @Dumah36
    @Dumah36 8 месяцев назад +2

    Of course. I am to blame. It is truly that simple. I didn't watch it. I am not watching anything from them. So definitely that is on me. Not their problem I have taste and standards.

  • @emmersoncharles205
    @emmersoncharles205 8 месяцев назад +3

    That's a great point about the memes and stuff VEE. I'd completely forgotten this show existed.

  • @braddl9442
    @braddl9442 8 месяцев назад +2

    Good point. No memes usually means its not leaving a culture impact. People might have watched it, but no one actually cared.

  • @michaelwills1926
    @michaelwills1926 8 месяцев назад +1

    Gaslighting has helped to break my habit of giving a shit what any of these ppl think about anything

  • @SammEater
    @SammEater 8 месяцев назад +2

    You know what's insteresting about the Last of Us? How Neil Druckmann kicked the only person that was actually a talented writer so that he could for his crappy revenge storyline and then re-doing the original Last of Us in tv show format so that he could inject into the first story things that he wanted to do but couldn't at the time because there were still people saying 'No' to his dumb ideas back then.

  • @DavidWalker1987
    @DavidWalker1987 8 месяцев назад +3

    TLOUs problem, is that we all know where its leads to.
    Its like if SWs was originally animated and then converted to film. We all know the shitshow that the sequel trilogy is, so regardless of how well done the OTs conversion is... it isnt going to be held in the same reverance.

  • @BismoFunyuns4Ever
    @BismoFunyuns4Ever 8 месяцев назад +1

    It’s not about acceptance anymore it’s about shaming normalcy, attacking the family; and reducing peoples inner shame by attacking others. You know that empty feeling you get after a porn fap. People oriented towards unproductive sex lives life with that - and only that - forever.

  • @josephjackson4312
    @josephjackson4312 8 месяцев назад +2

    An annoying thing about that episode besieds bing a being a usles filler is that in the first game, the 2 separated on bad terms and 1 makes for good interaction with the main characters while the other one...didn't make it, but they had to change that for the movie because gay people must be always depicted as magically better than human beings; symbols of perfection that can do no wrong.

  • @TropicaIJay
    @TropicaIJay 8 месяцев назад +6

    I didn't hate episode 3 but man I absolutely despised how that was the entire episode..

  • @user-xl5kd6il6c
    @user-xl5kd6il6c 8 месяцев назад +3

    Memes existing doesn't mean something is popular
    Case and point, Morbius

  • @Loreweavver
    @Loreweavver 8 месяцев назад +5

    It was alright as a generic zombie flick but yeah. There was more homosexuality than zombies if we're counting minutes of screen time.

  • @MrDeothor
    @MrDeothor 8 месяцев назад +1

    i got called a ynroh elihpodep by ALOT of peeple for saying that bella ramsey doesnt fit role of ellis. I also wanted to comment of episode 6(?) of 2 old men making out, but tbh the crows would kill me if i did.

  • @radagast7200
    @radagast7200 8 месяцев назад +5

    I remember Buffy including the Bi Willow, around the late 90s or early 2000, and I dont remember any backlash.

    • @metronome8471
      @metronome8471 8 месяцев назад +1

      Willow x Tara was tragic.

    • @GODCONVOYPRIME
      @GODCONVOYPRIME 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@metronome8471 I stopped watching after that.

    • @metronome8471
      @metronome8471 8 месяцев назад

      @@GODCONVOYPRIME personally buffyxspike made me view less. Did like how he was handled in angel in that show.

  • @_Paul_N
    @_Paul_N 8 месяцев назад

    Both males and females from the left and right are getting fed up with all the woke 💩. It has nothing to do with misogyny, homophobia, or toxicity. Movies, video games, and entertainment is plagued with forced diversity and symbolism. We’re sick and tired!

  • @denkerbosu3551
    @denkerbosu3551 8 месяцев назад +1

    I LOVE it when I read these headlines.
    I like knowing that my indifference and lack of interest in watching trash hurts the trash producer.

  • @Fraxzor
    @Fraxzor 8 месяцев назад +1

    The fact they have to validate themselves with their own awards tells you all you need to know.

  • @TheMaleRei
    @TheMaleRei 8 месяцев назад +2

    As a side note, I'm curious as to how well (or poorly) the *remastered* for PS5 version of TLOU2 is doing for sales.
    I only learned of it through an ad I saw online...

    • @chris_player2995
      @chris_player2995 8 месяцев назад

      "remastered" only fixed a bit tje lighting and added a rogue-like mode 4 years later...meanwhile Capcom releases bonus modes post story completion or weeks later as DLC

  • @goufr3540
    @goufr3540 8 месяцев назад +2

    Funny enough, I think The Walking Dead at one point many seasons ago had a gay couple in there, but their romance never overshadowed the actual events of the series. They were just there, did the things they needed to do and at some point died. Keep in mind, that was years ago and details are hard to remember.

  • @nubbyboah
    @nubbyboah 8 месяцев назад

    "Stick the carrot inside the broccoli" what the hell is this phrase? Both are vegetables, I'm not eating either!

  • @Marinealver
    @Marinealver 8 месяцев назад +3

    Of course, the creators view themselves as God's.
    Only thing is they aren't infallible.

  • @rpgadventurer32
    @rpgadventurer32 8 месяцев назад +4

    Wait a min, I thought the show was "successful" based on their initial claims from HBO about the ratings and the high scores, so what are they complaining about?

  • @gothmogthrac4457
    @gothmogthrac4457 8 месяцев назад +1

    Once i heard they added some bundles of sticks i didnt even bother to pirate it. Waiting on the next invincible season tho

  • @michaelbuddy
    @michaelbuddy 8 месяцев назад +1

    They think they added to the overall series but in fact they wasted precious character-building time between the two main characters. The end result is I don't care about or recognize connection with the main characters at all. The main characters seem cringe and forced. Because they want to pull you in these non-essential directions to propagandize or at-best 'subvert expectations.' "ooooo, look it's like a normal drama but with a gerf couple"
    Fact is the ONLY way that mini movie gets watched is BECAUSE they snuck it into an otherwise mega popular story.
    Good news is they red-pilled a bunch of people yet again about the matrix and the elite sex pervert groom3rs

  • @YouTubeLovestoHideComments
    @YouTubeLovestoHideComments 8 месяцев назад +6

    6:25 Loras Tyrell and Renly Baratheon weren't in a gay romance in the books. Neither was Asha Greyjoy, in fact (quite the opposite, actually. She loved the D so much, she learned how to brew her own birth control). There was bisexual Oberyn Martell (played by Pedro Pascal in the show), Cersei's lesbian escapade with Lady Whatshername, and Daenerys with one of her Dothraki handmaidens, (maybe also a scene with the Brave Companions, but I could be misremembering it) but that's about it.

    • @Deniryer
      @Deniryer 8 месяцев назад

      There were rumours and down right insult pointed at both i.e Margaery will stay a maid if she stays in Renly's bed, Loras being a "Knight of pansies", Jaimie snaps at Loras and says "Now sheath your bloody sword, or I'll take it from you and shove it up some place even Renly never found", but there was no POV or sex scenes of neither of them.
      In AOCK Renly pays more attention to what Loras is doing to Margaery even tho she's his bride. There are a LOT of references, but I'm gay and I do notice these things so...

    • @YouTubeLovestoHideComments
      @YouTubeLovestoHideComments 8 месяцев назад

      @@Deniryer I remember the rumors about Renly (he's also described as being a bit flamboyant, at least compared to his brothers, when it came to clothing, IIRC). As for the lines about Loras, well... Knight of Pansies is a fitting insult to someone who's titled "The Knight of Flowers," as is "Ser Daisy." He was Renly's squire, so their relationship would've been close, almost fraternal, which would explain the line about the sword. Their relationship could be interpreted as suggestive (though I'd lean against it since old George hasn't exactly been subtle when it came to sexuality in other instances in a Song of Ice and Fire), but, in my opinion, it doesn't warrant making such a scandalous romance story in the show (that "Do you want me to get my brother?" line made me cringe), even if they wanted to explore it.
      There's a citation on the wiki "confirming" it, but it's frankly dubious at best.

    • @Deniryer
      @Deniryer 8 месяцев назад

      @@RUclipsLovestoHideCommentsI know, I don't agree with this "expansion" and freedom that writers took in TV series, in the times there were in they would still hide,using excuses like going to pray together etc. There is also a mention that Oberyn knew about and that was only person that knew and did not mind since he was pretty much BI.

  • @hassathunter2464
    @hassathunter2464 8 месяцев назад +2

    Are we sure Druckmann isn't guy.
    Remember it was his alt getting it on with Abby...

  • @chrismiller5940
    @chrismiller5940 8 месяцев назад +2

    To people who create this sort of content and blames the audience when it fails: The audience is not required to like the content you make, it's your job to make content the audience wants. If it fails then obviously you didn't make something people wanted to see.

  • @orenjineko646
    @orenjineko646 8 месяцев назад +7

    In the end of the world where medications are hard to come by, the last thing you want is intentional activities that destroying your sphincter muscle. 🤣

  • @loganblackwood2922
    @loganblackwood2922 8 месяцев назад +1

    Pack as much fudge as you like, Naughty Dog. Just don't call me names for not wanting to see it.

  • @ZhaneBadguy
    @ZhaneBadguy 8 месяцев назад +1

    You see Gustavo Fring is actually a good character. Something they are either not capable of writing or sometimes even avoid on purpose.

  • @ni55an86
    @ni55an86 8 месяцев назад +2

    Most of the video game industry is employed with Hollywood rejects. The same way vg journalism is filled with writers who couldn't get a job with a real outlet. Thats why our games are now cringe movies with snippets of gameplay.

    • @metronome8471
      @metronome8471 8 месяцев назад

      This. Creatives ruining other people's story's because no one likes their products.

  • @HontounoShiramizu
    @HontounoShiramizu 8 месяцев назад

    It's less mother sticking carrot and broccoli and more of a fast food worker jizzing into your drink to get you to drink it.

  • @twiggledy5547
    @twiggledy5547 8 месяцев назад

    The opposite of love isnt hate. Its indifference

  • @richarddoyle3420
    @richarddoyle3420 8 месяцев назад +1

    According to realism, save yourself, THEN your child.
    Airplane disintegrates. Door blasted.
    At some point -
    Save the child, at any cost.

  • @jcf2103
    @jcf2103 8 месяцев назад +1

    Fuck Naughty Dog, that's the only meme this series deserves.

  • @twiceremoved7339
    @twiceremoved7339 8 месяцев назад +1

    Ron Swanson would call Nick a fairy.

  • @jepettoNFT
    @jepettoNFT 8 месяцев назад +1

    6:00- i don't remember this, i know they shot his brother (next to the pool), unless it's a translation thing and in my country they called his partner (in business) his brother when it was his boyfriend ? or maybe i forgot (which is possible 😅)

  • @RaveMasterSRB
    @RaveMasterSRB 8 месяцев назад +1

    Idk how to explain. Show is really good, post apocalyptical setting is 10/10 and suddenly in half of episode out of no where two bearded old men start to kiss and smack each other. It's like idk... if in mad max you see that. We (the 99%) instinctively see it as out of place, repulsive and forced. Cold shower moment that makes you lose all the hype.

  • @matoturcinovic
    @matoturcinovic 8 месяцев назад +1

    How come these people don't know that they live off us? We the audience can do without them, but they can't do without us! If you film nonsense, of course there will be no audience to watch that nonsense, and then there is no money. Dear God, what fools. Great video Lack of Entertainment 👍

  • @DanteCrowlley
    @DanteCrowlley 8 месяцев назад +6

    It's gay, just simple n plain gay story

  • @Uthandir
    @Uthandir 8 месяцев назад

    Sneak the carrot inside the broccoli. What kind of a cruel mother did you have anyway. xD