Orthodoxy and Smoking
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I was asked to give my personal input on smoking, but it sorta got to 'general Orthodox consensus on smoking.' Honestly, I only write these descriptions because every RUclipsr tip site told me to, no one reads these anyway so bye.
“There is no reason for us to increase the number of battles that we need to fight” is a very good line.
My mother used to smoke a lot before she had me. After she prayed to the Theotokos, she gave it up in a day and never touched a cigarette again. To this day she cannot stand the smell of smoke. Most Holy Theotokos, pray for us all
amen
Why she pray to the Theotokos instead of God
Amen
@@the_bathroomWhy not?
“If God wanted us to smoke He would have given us a chimney” - Patriarch Pavle
Precisely!
In his days if you had a cough the doctor might prescribe a certain brand of cigarette to cure you
I quit occasionally smoking as a catechumen, because it is so plainly regarded as a sin. But it was much later before it occurred to me that my constant snus habit was also equally sinful. Everyone always points out the health problems, but finally in an examination of conscience I read pointed out it wasted money that could be given as alms.
And now I'm 6 weeks without nicotine. Pray for me!
God bless you!
Thank God! Keep up the good fight!
What I want to know is, were Saints saying it was sinful even before the cancer connection was widely understood? As for wasting money, Chesterton would have likely said that sharing good tobacco with a poor man would have been as good as the alms.
God bless you!
@@BanterWithBojanAmen!
>didn't show hands
Downvoted, unsubscribed, disavowed and anathematized
Hands were heavily implied in the video.
@@BanterWithBojan actually, I saw you "talking with your hands" in several frames...
A Orthodox friend of mine told me a story on how her friend gave up smoking after he was baptized into the church. She told me after his baptism the man was on the verge of vomiting and when he did black tar came out of his mouth and after that he stopped smoking. Not only did God Renew him but he also detoxed his soul by cleaning the necotine out of his system. And no lol he didn't vomet in church. XD
An amazing miracle!
I forgot to mention an acquaintance of mine. Her spiritual father told her to stop smoking, she said 'Amen' and stopped there and then, cold turkey.
@@BanterWithBojan Wow that is what I call great obedience
I asked our priest about pipe smoking, but got answer for smoking in general and his answer was that smoking tobacco isn't a sin in itself, but addiction is, as it takes focus out from what actually is important. So I don't stress about my occasional pipe smoking, but of course during lent it's forbidden, so I don't do it.
I'm a smoker and want to give it up. I've already given up smoking weed. Smoking dangerously harms the body that God gave us. The harm vastly outweighs the small amount of pleasure. That's enough for me and I intend to quit soon!
@@Max-xf1mwgiving up weed is very challenging for myself, how did you do it?
"There is no need for us to increase our passions"
Brilliant
A random comment -- you could smoke on international flights well into the 90's. I flew to Germany in 1993 and remember looking toward the back of the plane, which was the smoking section. By the end of the flight, there was so much smoke in the air that you could see it. It was disgusting!
I'm so helplessly addicted to cigarettes. I've tried quitting cold turkey many, many times, and have had success for a month or two many times as well. Every single time my wife & I have gotten into horrible arguments & I've started again. Failing at quitting so many times has taken a huge toll on me, & I don't think I can even do it again without a miracle. Honestly, I don't know what to do.
Seek guidance from a local spiritual father. God bless you Russell
@@indianumberonecountry Thanks, but I've done that for years. Since Friday, I'm two compound fractures in my leg, 2 fractured ribs, & one fractured ankle closer to quitting cigarettes, lol!
How did it go?
@@benjamin6776 I'm no longer addicted to cigarettes/nicotine & blown away by God's sense of humor, so to speak. Hard to smoke with an injury like that. It's scary how decisive God is. Obviously nobody wants an indecisive God, but wow, that was intense... okay, you know?
Im watching this as im preparing myself to quit smoking tomorrow for lent…. God help me
I read the description.
>There is no need to increase the battles that we must fight.
Would have liked the video twice if I could.
With sockpuppet accounts, all things are possible
@@BanterWithBojan But if youtube found out they might De-recommend your video :)
Regarding the talk about smoking not having an equivalent in nature. I believe smoking starts out connected with boredom or curiosity, but then devolves into a physical and mental addiction
One reason I come here, Bojan, is because you are just a guy on the internet, and make no bones about it. I imagine you struggle with humility same as anyone else, but it speaks well every time you say, sincerely, "Im just some guy on the internet."
When Chesterton was alive, medical knowledge wasn't what it was as it was today.
Precisely!
theres benefits to nicotine too
@@percival7754 like chasing away mosquitoes.
@@robertwaguespack9414 yea
Glad to be the first here, love your videos!
Glad you like them! :-)
I usually read the description on your videos, and on a number of others as well. It occurs to me, how did the past and present tenses of "to read" end up being spelled the same?
Do not ask me grammar questions :D
I smoked a great deal for a very long time and I quit 8 years ago! :-)
I don't want to smoke, but I have nothing I do want instead
Happy for u!
@@normalbuerger Pray. Intimacy with the Breath of God will always be better than the breath of smokers. Stay strong out there. Take care of yourself, and others, as much as you can. God Blsss you.
i get so happy watching your videos man I don’t know why
Neither do I! :D
@@BanterWithBojanneither do I but I get excited too! :D😀
@@BanterWithBojanwow I am a year late to responding to this comment 😬
Hey Bojan, would you do a video commenting on the alleged misogyny of Scriptures, Church Fathers and Christian tradition in general?
nah just imagine a russian orthodox in the snow walking to the store. He went there with just enough money for some food he was gonna cook for himself but saw a homeless man on the street. On his way back home he sits next to the homeless man and hands him a cigar and pulls out another for himself. They talk about life and God and their experiences, and when the cigars are finished the sun has set and he has to go home. He gets home with no food, because he spent all his money on two cigars so that man could have someone to talk to, so that he himself could have some company, and they could bond. He goes to bed hungry in the flesh. but he is full with joy because he has made a friend
Now that’s our equivalent to a classy catholic with a pipe
Well the church indeed have incense, and yes it's very similar to smoking because you inhale smoke from burned plants. This has been done one way or another both in sacred and profane settings all around the world since forever. Cigarettes are mostly useless though I agree, especially if one smokes everyday.
Is snus a sin too?
I tried smoking a pipe a couple of times but I threw up both times, even afterwords when I got a few puffs in it didn't taste that good.
Whether Saint Nicolas of Serbia smoked or not isn't completely clear. Some people claim he did, some claim he didn't
What do we think of imported premium hand rolled cigars? Reason being, we know cigarettes are loaded with added cancerous chemicals ( just like most food in the west). But I believe smoking a cigar ( you don’t inhale) is something completely different. Any body have thoughts? Thank you
Inhaling smoke into the mouth is enough to cause mouth cancer. I've got to get rid of my smoking addiction but we can't pretend it's something that it's not. Smoking is dangerously harmful to the body God gave us. End of story.
Most Orthodox are smokers. Go to the Balkans or to Russia everyone smokes. Greece has the highest amount of smokers in all of Europe
Hey can you do a video Saint Nicholas the Passion-Bearer
Eventually :-)
@@BanterWithBojan ok
Day 2. Pray for me!!! 🙏🙏🙏
I would place smoking under the sense of taste. That is the main reason why I smoke. The other reason is because it gives me opportunities to have deep conversations with other people
I think very high quality pipe tobacco can be a truly useful thing for contemplative prayer, and it's certainly not the incense of the devil. Cigarettes on the other hand, are truly evil
This is what peak Serb looks like. You may not like it, but this is what it is.
Peak in fat more like it
Peak Serb is cute, chubby and Orthodox. Sounds good to me. 😂
Hey, I read them...
What is the chant at the end?
"Spirit of Fire" by Jesse Gallagher
@@BanterWithBojan Thank you Bojan! God bless you!
I love St Nikolai Velimirovic even more now.
Your body is a temple, but what is a temple without incense?
Pay close attention that it's not the strange incense of Exodus 30. :D
@@BanterWithBojan i have not yet, like Nadab and Abihu, caught fire.
It is better to smoke in this life than to smoke in the next
I used to be a smoker. I have smoked on planes in the 90's! (I don't smoke anymore. Like Ace Ventura says, it's a filthy habbit ;-) )
I struggle with smoking, pray for me brethren.
Did you quit? When I converted to Jesus Christ I was a heavy smoker, but suddenly all of it shuts down, I couldn't bear smoking, it was disgusting, I didn't do anything to quit, but God did.
I promised to not smoke again because it is a bridge to my past life, my sinful life, but here I am, wondering if it is a sin or is it to be addicted to it a sin, thinking to myself if it's okay to smoke a cig once upon a time and forgive myself of the past and make peace with the sinful me as Jesus did...
What about alcohol and overeating? I remember a bunch of quite overweight (like me, that's why the question interests me) and lots of vodka drinking russian priest monks ...
those are all equal, haven't you listened to the video?
go to 3:55 and listen from there, you will see the difference, even though all the things you listed together with smoking are sins.
I feel attacked rn lol
First of all, Pray and Ask God what he thinks. Seek Guidance from him.
(Tho i would personally argue that it fine in moderation and control)
Also Bojan, i thought all sins are the same in God's eyes?
I don't think that all the sins are the same.
God makes distinctions all the time (sins unto death and sins not unto death, different penalties for different sins in the Old Testament etc.). "All the sins being the same" is just a spiteful retort to Catholics dividing sins into mortal and venial categories.
I don't care smoking is sin or not because it almost looks like any addiction is a sin XD Also i hate smoking
only person that i saw actually smoke and not bother me was was my cook master. He was like smoke once a day for social reasons and done
Through the prayers of Saint Nikolai Vellimorovich and Saint Maria Skobtsova Lord Jesus Christ save us from the leaven of the Uberdox.
"It's not what goes into a man that makes him unclean..."
"Call nothing the Lord has made unclean"
The fathers would be just as baffled by the lazy people in cars eating gmo's, who otherwise couldn't make it to Liturgy if they had to walk.
It is completely illogical that the secondhand smoke is as horrible as we are told by the antismoking Nazis.
That said, i quit over 30 years ago and I still dont have a Porsche. However i DO have a wife!! Maybe THATS why i still dont have a fancy car🤣🤣
Pretty sure St. Mary of Paris was an occasional cigarette smoker. I think it's generally a really bad idea because it is physically unhealthy and also spiritually since it weakens the will. But calling it a sin in and of itself seems off to me, maybe I'm biased as a former smoker.
IMO smoking cigs is a sin because it is downright unhealthy, that being said, my friend just left his pack here and I'm going to go spark one, Lord have mercy
pricaj srpski da te ceo svet razume
I smoke, guess I'm going to Hell...
Smoke Weed every day