I will say this... Having had some time now to play with both the V2 vs the V3.... I thought FOR SURE I'd like the new V3 paddles better...but for my grip style my fingers rest way more naturally on the V2 back buttons and my response time is faster with that setup. All those years I said "if only razer would change their paddles for the wolverine." Now that they've done it...I like the old style better lol.
@@AlvinKokubun You end up picking one up? It's the best damn controller on the market right?! Nothing beats those tactile clicks man! And the ability to switch the triggers to mouse clicks is next level!! Now if I could get a two with those clicky triggers I'd have the best of both worlds... Hmmm....I just wonder if I couldn't remove the triggers from the 3...and put them in the...2.... Oooooh we about to find out!!!
Having had mine for about two weeks now, I absolutely love it. For someone who has gone through a few default controllers due to stick drift, the higher cost for these pro features and hall effect (and hopefully not having to buy more controllers) was worth it. Couldn't be happier. Loved the clear, concise review.
@@Fancy405 Not wireless and authorized for Xbox. Not for that price. Would love to see an official Xbox licensed wireless controller with Hall Effect sticks and programmable buttons. Links?
I’ve always loved the top extra buttons it’s really useful in games like Warzone picking up guns and items quickly without having to leave the left stick to use the x button to pick up or reload for that matter. Being able to always have my thumb on the stick has saved my competitive games a lot
Only a 250Hz polling rate available when wireless is such a shame for this price point, there are cheaper options with higher wireless rates. Everything else looks great. 10.16ms is fine, but for one of the most expensive controllers on the market, it deserves a higher polling option for wireless.
Love them for fps on my wolverine ultimate v1 which is just starting to fail after about 5 years.. i use them for l3/r3 to avoid stick drift... but the bottom buttons are dam near unusable where they are lol.
Mine arrives today. I prefer wired so the option is fine... i cant find a replacement that holds up against the elite controllers... i hope this works.
For anyone who cares. Got mine today. Inputs already stick before an hour of play and I hate the back button layout. The two small ones are great for me but the others force you to grip a certain way. Not like gamesir g7 apex4 or elites. They have better layout on the back. I was trying to get used to it and it would be fine but the software or firmware is bugged. Randomly disconnects and inputs stick without button being bushes. Stick tension is higher than a lot of other controllers but it wasn't bad.
For anyone who cares. Got mine today. Inputs already stick before an hour of play and I hate the back button layout. The two small ones are great for me but the others force you to grip a certain way. Not like gamesir g7 apex4 or elites. They have better layout on the back. I was trying to get used to it and it would be fine but the software or firmware is bugged. Randomly disconnects and inputs stick without button being bushes. Stick tension is higher than a lot of other controllers but it wasn't bad.
i just replaced my Elite series 2 with the v3 Pro. the RB/LB bumpers on the Elite 2 have failed on me and the back Paddle R1 is starting to require long pushes to register. I may use isopropyl to clean the switches again in the future to see if it's salvagable but i'm going to run with this Wolverine v3 Pro for now (hopefully for the very long term)
@@Louis-Law dog, my LB is dying. The controller is less than 2 years old. I know there's a fix, but it's just unacceptable for a controller at that price point.
"Traditional for a Pro Controller, wired is the preference" That has mainly just been marketing spin. The reason pro controllers have often been wired is because, until recently, Xbox did not license third party wireless controllers, so all third party Xbox controllers had to be wired. If you notice, The PS4 and PS5 Razer pro controllers were already wireless.
you have it, describe everything to me compared to Xbox Elite Series 2 controller as I'm undecided to get an Pro Controller that's rechargeable as my main Xbox Series S controller and Xbox battery kept falling on me@@alexandros099
I've been using razer wolverine ultimate, chroma v2 and will most likely buy this one. Some of this guy's takes were very bad tbh like the whole claw grip bs. Those 2 extra buttons at the top really are the opposite of being good for people who use the "claw grip". The effectively give you the benefits of claw without the need to hold your controller that way.
Do you still get a click at the bottom of the press in analog mode for the triggers? If it does, these triggers are like the best of 3 worlds, being analog, digital, and gamecube styled. You don't get any clicks in modern analog triggers.
Hi, big thank you for your review. It was very clear and to the point and helped me with my decision on whether or not to purchase it. I went for the tournament edition as we Aussies pay alot more lol. I'm happy to sacrifice the rubber grip and light show and wireless.
@@sinisterpink9907 hmm not sure the vader 4 pro can be got for $60 usd it is slightly more comfortable, and has better anti-dead-zone settings for games with built in dead-zones, and has adjustable stick tension, better dpad, gyro (which i never use) i think the back buttons aren't bad for many games once you get used to it, that being said, the Wolverine had better back buttons because of the layout, and the extra shoulder buttons are easier to hit while your thumbs are on the sticks the wolverine is $100 for the wired version and $200 for wireless, which is because of the Xbox tax/ licensing fees
@@sinisterpink9907 Hall effect sticks are worse for fps games though, I’d rather get stick drift than ever play on HE sticks again after trying them lol
I just ordered a pro (comes in sat) after experiencing stick drift on my second elite 2 controller. For its credit I had it for like 2 years until the drift started to happen recently. I did notice no mention of the battery life or specs on the battery itself. also doesn't look like you can charge the controller while its in the carrying case. I actually dig that feature of the elite 2. Thanks for vid!
@@johnnywalker1363 smh. if the elite 3 doesn't come with hall effect sticks...hard fail imo. The razer is cool. Buttons feel great. sticks are a lil stiff but after a while they feel better after breaking them in. Digitial over analog all day for me. However its overpriced.
@@jackwp92 if you are talking straight performance I'd give it the V3. Build quality is good and the fact it has hall effect switches puts it up there. I had to get use to not activating the back paddles. Took a lil min but I got it for the most part. The extra buttons by the shoulders for me...not the best placement. The price is what kills it...least the wireless version. For almost the same price or cheaper you can get an Elite 2 that comes with a case that you can charge the controller in when not in use, easier to swap sticks (not a huge deal but u notice it) and for me the Elite u can program KB keys....V3 u can't. Which is better? Depends on what u are looking for but for me the Elite 2 is the better bang for buck right now over the wireless v3.
@@trembledust6819 my issue is, I’ve got an Elite 2 now and I absolutely love it. But I play a lot of FPS and this is now my third one, because of stick drift. So I don’t wanna change because I love the Elite 2 and the paddles are so handy, but at the same time. Stick drift every few months is so annoying
just ordered one, i really really hope if fits my hand and grip. my elite 1 had to get the sticks replaced, elite 2 had bumper issues and the rubbery stuff is peeling off. not idea when an elite 3 might come and if they'll even fix anything. the core didn't. hope they chekced the boxes with this one.
I had an elite 2 that got stick drift (after 2 years), and switched to the TE version. The mouse click triggers and buttons are such a big upgrade, and the wired 1000hz polling rate erased input delay. The back button placement is perfect for me. My previous Xbox Kontrolfreaks fit on these sticks. The app to adjust the controller needs improvements, but the controller is excellent.
@@phonescreenfiend Hall effect sticks are worse for fps games though, I’d rather get stick drift than ever play on HE sticks again after trying them lol
Same, save your money because they're the same thing and the 10ft cable is long enough for most gaming setups. The Pro isn't Bluetooth wireless, just the connects to the dongle. Plus, both need to be wired to use the 1000hz polling rate. I guess you miss out on the small LED croma, but that and wireless ain't worth an extra $100.
What's the point of the USB? Is it always necessary? For example some times I like to run emulated games on my phone. would this controller be useless for this?
Can anyone confirmed reports I've been hearing of stickdrift out of the box? I heard calibrating with the app fixes it but still stickdrift out of the box when the sticks are hall effect are keeping me from pulling the trigger.
Been through two v2s, and buying 2 or even 3 controllers until you get acceptable stick drift is a fact. Still better than the elite, but still not great if you are giving it as a gift.
I bought this from best buy for the new war zone, love it! I liked the razer Wolverine v2 but the back buttons were too far in the center but the back buttons closer on the grips are so clutch!
@ I’ve noticed a tiny stick drift which is weird bc it only happens when I play zombies in bo6. My right joystick will drift insanely. It’s as if someone else is playing my game. This usually happens when I’m wireless. When I’m wired I have no issues so idk if it’s interference with something else but other than that absolutely love it
Thanks for the time you put in. I am so so disappointed with my elite controler. Just trash, in my opinion. Got 2 of them and both just full of problems and cheap components. Anyway, I'm seriously shopping for something well made and still more or less basic or classic in design. I think you sold me on this one. The only one I haven't watched a review on is the turtle beach model. But from what I've seen, I'm pretty sure I'm gonna go with this one. The only thing I didn't catch in your vid was warranty info. But great video. Love the energy and clear-cut explanation with details and the addition of pros cons and personal playstyle. Thanks again.
Im thinking of setting aside some money for the v3 since i use the moga XP ultra and after updating its just been freaking out and the bumper simply wore out
only issue is having dead zones set to 0 its not centered. i set it to 1 and its fine. hopefully there is a firmware update or something cause everything else is great
Big reason for me buying past razer controllers is the mute button for the mic, is it on this one? The past ones i’ve had had the feature. But what is the circle button in the middle?
Both the Fusion 4 pro and Razer v3 have very similar features and using K-Silver JH16. The power a being the far cheaper option. For that HE sticks. You are better off just getting a Gamesir kaleid or wait for the g7 pro. Both these controllers have very little resistance to interference. So pressing the Trigger will still affect the sensors, and the fact that when you press the trigger it will try and correct it self after a second. This affect microadjustments while playing. This includes the RT as well not just LT. Which is odd. They both have to use build in deadzones. To trick the readings. If you remove them. The veil opens up. Sure it's using HE. But they ARE NOT drift resistant. Recenter in the same spot is also mechanical impossible. They have a worse recenter mechanism than ALPS joysticks. And you get reads of 0.02-0.05+ without deadzones. If you use a dead zone it's feels off. And this includes the fact that jh16 don't last for competitive gamers. More for a casual player. I'd rather just installed Custom HE on existing console gamepads. Or wait for a gamepad with the new JH20 or TMR.
How do you know they are using the K Silvers? I’ve been holding off on getting this controller because that module kinda sucks and wasn’t sure what they’re using here
I used the tournament v2 for splitgate back in the day and there was no controller that wanted to use as the 6 extra pads allowed me to make some nice portal cancel plays
I was apprehensive about the price as well but the wired one is only like $100 which is totally reasonable in my opinion. After using it, I am completely sold on dumping the $200 for a wireless one. The wired one is good to but having wireless in more convenient imo. This controller is insanely good and love that I can remap buttons to the paddles without needing that requirement in game to do it. I can just remap which buttons are more convenient to the paddles as needed.
there are literally $18 controllers that have HE sticks that won't have stick drift. You are definitely overpaying by a lot and not realizing it. You can get a controller with the same features for under $60.
i have the V2 chroma wired. I really don't know how is possible for Razer to create an even better pad than the V2 chroma wired and V2 chroma wireless pads.
Chinese were the first to introduce the hall effect and they did it with a decent price . i can afford this controller , but this price is silly , way too much
I have the v2 and use all 6 paddles with Fortnite and finds it’s perfect positioning, previously had the v1 which is similar to v3 and the button placements got sore after a while
After having the Xbox Elite Series 1 and 2, TB Stealth Ultra Pro and Scuf Envision Pro, I can say that this Razer Wolverine V3 Pro is the best one I ever had!! Just perfect!! Let's see if it holds in the long term, but for now I just love it!!
This is exactly the feedback I was looking for because I am an elite series 2 user and I am trying to decide between either this or the envision pro. Do you find the paddles to be as comfortable as they are on the elite series 2?
@@tylerfrench4996yes!!! It’s basically the same position as the Elite!! For me it’s just perfect!! And the triggers with the mouse click are AWESOME!!!
@@CBarron-nu9vq It's just better overall... the mouse click buttons feel awesome, and the anti drift analogs are great too! I had too much problems with all 3 Elites I had.
Love the video! I plan on getting the wired version of this controller. I play at a deck wired already so why not save 100 dollars and get the wired one
I currently own the Wolverine V2 and I'm torn between getting this or the Scuf Envision Pro. Alot of people don't like the Envision because of iCue but all my peripherals/ram/cpu cooler and fans are all Corsair and all controlled by iCue so it already runs all the time in the background so I'm very familiar with it and frankly it doesn't give me any problems vs what I've seen from people and I've been using iCue for years. I'm stickly on PC as well no consoles and I mainly use mouse and kb for my games, only a few games I play with a controller so stick drift isn't really an issue for me. The v3's hall effect sticks are pretty sweet but having the ability to make actual full blown macros on the Envision pulls me more towards it.
I have the envision and the software sucks a lot. I have to turn icue off when I’m playing with it. It will reset my button lay out and I get an input lag on the back paddles which doesn’t happen with icue off. I have to hardware map the buttons and leave icue off just to use it and that intern disables some of the features of the controller like setting macros, so basically I paid $200 for a controller, but only getting $100 of it to work. The controller does have a nice shape, but the back paddles are garbage. Instant triggers are nice though. I just bought the tournament edition of this controller because I’m over the envision bs.
I just bought the Envision today and I am returning it first thing tomorrow morning. Worst controller I've ever used, felt extremely sluggish, awkward button placement, and had drift right out of the box. I've had several generations of Xbox controllers, the Victrix Gambit, Gamesir Kaleid, and Vader 4 Pro. The Scuf Envision Pro is definitely the worst one I have ever used.
I like this I might try to pick one up sooner rather than later. I probably will go wired just for the use of PC gaming as it’s $ 100 cheaper well that’s $100 I get to save❤ The back button fixes are great. Hall Fx sticks too!! I wonder if they’re really all that. Honestly I’d skip on the rubberized grips
Since this controller is getting so much praise do you see them doing a version for the PS5? Their V2 Pro for the PS5 could use a similar refresh and it would be an instant buy, as I dont like the ps5 controller shape.
Shame you still can't rebind the back paddles to keyboard keys, even with ReWASD which does work with the Elite controllers. I just want to be able to bind the back paddles to push-to-talk on Discord but apparently that's a high hurdle for gamepads to clear.
Didn't mention that the polling rate is double that of a standard xbox controller. Its 250 Hz wireless (standard Xbox wireless controller is 125hz) and wired is 1000hz. And in the hall of fame in Gamepadia for low latency of 4ms!
Sad there's no gyro since it's for Xbox. But as far as 4 paddle controllers go, it's my favorite. There's no compromises. I've been loving mine for games like Destiny, where they just keep adding so many new mechanics it's hard to cram it onto a controller these days. I make use of all 6 of the extra buttons and it's been so so nice 💖
Got mine a few days ago. Only thing I don't like about the controller are that the sticks aren't swappable, and because of this I find it hard to be accurate doing a flick with the concave joystick, where I've always used the dome for aiming because it is faster.
Sadly it will probably have quality control issues because razer can’t figure out their qc to save them selves in the controller dep. I’m on the v2 chroma and I get it at game stop because of their warranty other wise I wouldn’t buy it. I’m on my 7th one in the span of 1-2yrs under warranty almost all had issues in either stick drift or back buttons failing since on the chroma the back ones aren’t mouse clicks idk why but they aren’t. Hall effect seems nice but for the money I’ll see if game stop will start carrying the tournament one and I’ll get it since it will be much cheaper. Over all if razer could figure out their qc they will have a really good product but as of rn I can’t recommend their controllers at all (before the chroma I was on the ultimate that had the chrome design also had terrible issues around stick drift and for some reason the shoulder buttons went through 5 of the under warranty before giving up and trying other controllers from other brands). After the chroma I have runs out of warranty I will look else where for a remote 😢
Not having full rebind freedom akin to something like ReWASD or DSX is really unfortunate. Only being able to bind gamepad buttons, not being able to bind several buttons presses to one button, and not being able to bind any button to any other button is really REALLY unfortunate. This gamepad is simultaneously the best and worst gamepad. I like its feel and design so much but it just loses so much accessibility and QoL by having such dated and limited binding options.
I thought "Pro controller" gave me hope for Nintendo. They don't have any good competitive pro controllers that don't drift after a few months, nor have hd rumble. Playing competitive smash and being very rigorous in taking care of my controllers, the execution still breaks down controllers. Even when I never throw them, drop them, etc.
@@itssomeoneelse Those cheaper competitors 99% don't meet all my requirements of wireless, hd rumble, and anti drift. I did my research and went through 10 3rd party controllers wired and wireless. Don't pretend as if they don't always slack off on something for the price. The vader 4 pro is the next thing I have my eyes on but that doesn't guarentee quality for nintendo. There's controllers that are for PC's that when they play on switch there is input delay which ruins the most important part of competitive fighting games related to controllers. Execution.
Hall effect joysticks plus all the features as a xbox elite for the same price 😂 this is worth 200 I'm sorry if u don't think so ur cheap as all get out son lol
Seems like every other controller, trigger locks, remappable buttons, grip etc what makes this controller special? What justifies the price. Literally every controller comes with these features now
@@420beffjezos but isn't that the thing? Xbox won't let anyone use their proprietary signal so everyone either has to use a 2.4ghz dongle or wired at least.
The only hesitations I have are the price and the sticks. I have the FlyDigi Apex 4. It only cost me 80 bucks and it's pretty amazing so far. The sticks have adjustable tension right on the controller and that's a feature that I didn't think would make a huge deal. Now I don't think I can live without it. I'm able to completely loosen the Life stick and completely tighten the right stick. Combined with the precision ring it has my made my aim in FPS games so much better. While I could probably still add the precision ring to the Razer Wolverine that lack of stick tension would probably be noticeable. I got to find somebody who's willing to let me try it out before I buy it
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The moment he mentioned the mouse click trigger switch, and the newer paddle positioned, I am sold.
I got a v1 v2 and a v3 and the new paddles and the clicky triggers ARE EPIC! I love all 3 for real!
@ great to hear… now I’m trying to buy on
I will say this...
Having had some time now to play with both the V2 vs the V3....
I thought FOR SURE I'd like the new V3 paddles better...but for my grip style my fingers rest way more naturally on the V2 back buttons and my response time is faster with that setup.
All those years I said "if only razer would change their paddles for the wolverine."
Now that they've done it...I like the old style better lol.
@ haha dang, I have been in that situation before…
@@AlvinKokubun You end up picking one up? It's the best damn controller on the market right?! Nothing beats those tactile clicks man! And the ability to switch the triggers to mouse clicks is next level!!
Now if I could get a two with those clicky triggers I'd have the best of both worlds...
Hmmm....I just wonder if I couldn't remove the triggers from the 3...and put them in the...2....
Oooooh we about to find out!!!
Having had mine for about two weeks now, I absolutely love it. For someone who has gone through a few default controllers due to stick drift, the higher cost for these pro features and hall effect (and hopefully not having to buy more controllers) was worth it. Couldn't be happier. Loved the clear, concise review.
@@SeanMcKay does it have vibration?
@@junior-OG Not only does it have vibration, you can set the intensity of the vibration.
@@SeanMcKay thanks 👍
these features are present on $40 controllers
@@Fancy405 Not wireless and authorized for Xbox. Not for that price. Would love to see an official Xbox licensed wireless controller with Hall Effect sticks and programmable buttons. Links?
I’ve always loved the top extra buttons it’s really useful in games like Warzone picking up guns and items quickly without having to leave the left stick to use the x button to pick up or reload for that matter. Being able to always have my thumb on the stick has saved my competitive games a lot
Play Claw style then. Thats how controllers are meant to be held.
Only a 250Hz polling rate available when wireless is such a shame for this price point, there are cheaper options with higher wireless rates. Everything else looks great.
10.16ms is fine, but for one of the most expensive controllers on the market, it deserves a higher polling option for wireless.
Crazy because I can’t find a single Xbox compatible controller that will achieve higher than 250 polling rate when wireless. Care to provide a link
thank god they finally placed the back buttons in a usable lay out
The two shoulder buttons are the only reason I bought this controller. The Raiju had them and they're great for FPS games.
Love them for fps on my wolverine ultimate v1 which is just starting to fail after about 5 years.. i use them for l3/r3 to avoid stick drift... but the bottom buttons are dam near unusable where they are lol.
Mine arrives today. I prefer wired so the option is fine... i cant find a replacement that holds up against the elite controllers... i hope this works.
For anyone who cares. Got mine today. Inputs already stick before an hour of play and I hate the back button layout. The two small ones are great for me but the others force you to grip a certain way. Not like gamesir g7 apex4 or elites. They have better layout on the back. I was trying to get used to it and it would be fine but the software or firmware is bugged. Randomly disconnects and inputs stick without button being bushes. Stick tension is higher than a lot of other controllers but it wasn't bad.
For anyone who cares. Got mine today. Inputs already stick before an hour of play and I hate the back button layout. The two small ones are great for me but the others force you to grip a certain way. Not like gamesir g7 apex4 or elites. They have better layout on the back. I was trying to get used to it and it would be fine but the software or firmware is bugged. Randomly disconnects and inputs stick without button being bushes. Stick tension is higher than a lot of other controllers but it wasn't bad.
Man, this might be the one to replace my Elite Series 2. Tempting!!
Man imma just get the wired I play Pc any way
Replaced my elite 2 on Xbox with the tournament edition
i just replaced my Elite series 2 with the v3 Pro. the RB/LB bumpers on the Elite 2 have failed on me and the back Paddle R1 is starting to require long pushes to register. I may use isopropyl to clean the switches again in the future to see if it's salvagable but i'm going to run with this Wolverine v3 Pro for now (hopefully for the very long term)
@@Louis-Law dog, my LB is dying. The controller is less than 2 years old. I know there's a fix, but it's just unacceptable for a controller at that price point.
@@WBF_III oh 100%, these fixes are all community bandaging techniques 😂
"Traditional for a Pro Controller, wired is the preference" That has mainly just been marketing spin. The reason pro controllers have often been wired is because, until recently, Xbox did not license third party wireless controllers, so all third party Xbox controllers had to be wired. If you notice, The PS4 and PS5 Razer pro controllers were already wireless.
Exactly! Wire is just a pain in the ass
Gotta add the gaslighting 😅
@@EvilB34ns ikr! so annoying that they think we're just dumb.
Also the very miniscule difference in latency most people would never notice
@@Fancy405 for some newer products, the latency of wireless is actually lower than wired (somehow).
I am thinking about checking out the Razer wolverine V3 Pro wireless controller for my Xbox, is it worth the investment?
I have and i think it's amazing
you have it, describe everything to me compared to Xbox Elite Series 2 controller as I'm undecided to get an Pro Controller that's rechargeable as my main Xbox Series S controller and Xbox battery kept falling on me@@alexandros099
I've been using razer wolverine ultimate, chroma v2 and will most likely buy this one. Some of this guy's takes were very bad tbh like the whole claw grip bs. Those 2 extra buttons at the top really are the opposite of being good for people who use the "claw grip". The effectively give you the benefits of claw without the need to hold your controller that way.
@@alexandros099can you tell me if the back buttons are so easy to click accidentally please ?
@aliaadels3 it's very difficult to push them involuntarily
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Do you still get a click at the bottom of the press in analog mode for the triggers? If it does, these triggers are like the best of 3 worlds, being analog, digital, and gamecube styled. You don't get any clicks in modern analog triggers.
Hi, big thank you for your review. It was very clear and to the point and helped me with my decision on whether or not to purchase it. I went for the tournament edition as we Aussies pay alot more lol. I'm happy to sacrifice the rubber grip and light show and wireless.
I have this controller and i love it so much! This and the Vader 4 Pro have made it so easy and fun to play games lol
Which do you prefer, vader or this? I heard the wolverine is not as comfortable bc of the short handles
@@sinisterpink9907 hmm not sure
the vader 4 pro can be got for $60 usd
it is slightly more comfortable, and has better anti-dead-zone settings for games with built in dead-zones, and has adjustable stick tension, better dpad, gyro (which i never use)
i think the back buttons aren't bad for many games once you get used to it, that being said, the Wolverine had better back buttons because of the layout, and the extra shoulder buttons are easier to hit while your thumbs are on the sticks
the wolverine is $100 for the wired version and $200 for wireless, which is because of the Xbox tax/ licensing fees
@@sinisterpink9907 Hall effect sticks are worse for fps games though, I’d rather get stick drift than ever play on HE sticks again after trying them lol
@@TechPanther7lies 😂 they aren’t worse for fps games 🤣I’ve had no issues on fps games with this controller
For fighting games, how's that dpad ?
I just ordered a pro (comes in sat) after experiencing stick drift on my second elite 2 controller. For its credit I had it for like 2 years until the drift started to happen recently. I did notice no mention of the battery life or specs on the battery itself. also doesn't look like you can charge the controller while its in the carrying case. I actually dig that feature of the elite 2.
Thanks for vid!
i just got an elite pro 2 and stick drift after 1 month :(
@@johnnywalker1363 smh. if the elite 3 doesn't come with hall effect sticks...hard fail imo. The razer is cool. Buttons feel great. sticks are a lil stiff but after a while they feel better after breaking them in. Digitial over analog all day for me. However its overpriced.
@@trembledust6819which is better? Elite 2 or V3?
@@jackwp92 if you are talking straight performance I'd give it the V3. Build quality is good and the fact it has hall effect switches puts it up there. I had to get use to not activating the back paddles. Took a lil min but I got it for the most part. The extra buttons by the shoulders for me...not the best placement. The price is what kills it...least the wireless version. For almost the same price or cheaper you can get an Elite 2 that comes with a case that you can charge the controller in when not in use, easier to swap sticks (not a huge deal but u notice it) and for me the Elite u can program KB keys....V3 u can't. Which is better? Depends on what u are looking for but for me the Elite 2 is the better bang for buck right now over the wireless v3.
@@trembledust6819 my issue is, I’ve got an Elite 2 now and I absolutely love it. But I play a lot of FPS and this is now my third one, because of stick drift. So I don’t wanna change because I love the Elite 2 and the paddles are so handy, but at the same time. Stick drift every few months is so annoying
just ordered one, i really really hope if fits my hand and grip. my elite 1 had to get the sticks replaced, elite 2 had bumper issues and the rubbery stuff is peeling off. not idea when an elite 3 might come and if they'll even fix anything. the core didn't. hope they chekced the boxes with this one.
I had an elite 2 that got stick drift (after 2 years), and switched to the TE version. The mouse click triggers and buttons are such a big upgrade, and the wired 1000hz polling rate erased input delay. The back button placement is perfect for me. My previous Xbox Kontrolfreaks fit on these sticks. The app to adjust the controller needs improvements, but the controller is excellent.
@@phonescreenfiend Hall effect sticks are worse for fps games though, I’d rather get stick drift than ever play on HE sticks again after trying them lol
I purchased the wired version for 100 less. It’s my first pro controller and have really enjoyed it so far.
Same, save your money because they're the same thing and the 10ft cable is long enough for most gaming setups. The Pro isn't Bluetooth wireless, just the connects to the dongle. Plus, both need to be wired to use the 1000hz polling rate. I guess you miss out on the small LED croma, but that and wireless ain't worth an extra $100.
Does it have gyro?
What's the point of the USB? Is it always necessary? For example some times I like to run emulated games on my phone. would this controller be useless for this?
Just so everyone knows it's still double the speed of an elite 2 controller in wireless mode
wired controllers FTW
@@mindlessinfiniteYeah, let's force everyone to use wired controllers.
Hall effect sticks are worse for fps games though, I’d rather get stick drift than ever play on HE sticks again after trying them lol
@@TechPanther7 I haven't tried them why are they bad?
@joematic2896 that's my question too
Can anyone confirmed reports I've been hearing of stickdrift out of the box? I heard calibrating with the app fixes it but still stickdrift out of the box when the sticks are hall effect are keeping me from pulling the trigger.
Been through two v2s, and buying 2 or even 3 controllers until you get acceptable stick drift is a fact. Still better than the elite, but still not great if you are giving it as a gift.
Is the dpad less smooshy and are buttons still smaller than the console controller?
I bought this from best buy for the new war zone, love it! I liked the razer Wolverine v2 but the back buttons were too far in the center but the back buttons closer on the grips are so clutch!
Have you got any problems?
@ I’ve noticed a tiny stick drift which is weird bc it only happens when I play zombies in bo6. My right joystick will drift insanely. It’s as if someone else is playing my game. This usually happens when I’m wireless. When I’m wired I have no issues so idk if it’s interference with something else but other than that absolutely love it
@@chanceyknows4445 ok thanks for the quick response
I've been interested in the Wolverine V2 for PS5, if they could make the V3 for that console I'd very much consider picking one up.
Hello can you also swap the sticks to southpaw or can you only customize the buttons?
Does this controller have a turbo function for auto clicks? Also, you need chapters/time stamps in your videos
Thanks for the time you put in. I am so so disappointed with my elite controler. Just trash, in my opinion. Got 2 of them and both just full of problems and cheap components. Anyway, I'm seriously shopping for something well made and still more or less basic or classic in design. I think you sold me on this one. The only one I haven't watched a review on is the turtle beach model. But from what I've seen, I'm pretty sure I'm gonna go with this one. The only thing I didn't catch in your vid was warranty info. But great video. Love the energy and clear-cut explanation with details and the addition of pros cons and personal playstyle. Thanks again.
can you recommend any headsets that will work with this controller? my xbox headset doesn't work with it.
When my controller is charging, the RGB light only lights up for three seconds. Is it same with you?
Im thinking of setting aside some money for the v3 since i use the moga XP ultra and after updating its just been freaking out and the bumper simply wore out
What is the app you use for deadzones
only issue is having dead zones set to 0 its not centered. i set it to 1 and its fine. hopefully there is a firmware update or something cause everything else is great
There is a firmware update, but you currently need to use a PC to install it into the controller. It is due on the Xbox app.
@@1nickybe nice. I use it on pc just haven’t looked to see if there’s was one yet. Thank you for letting me know
When u have it at 0 do also set ur in game deadzones to 0 aswell?
Does your PC recognize your dongle after shutdown mine doesn't have to unplug and plug back in after a shutdown@@jakejdomo
@@bradoakes6756 I haven’t used the dongle. I’ve only used it plugged in
How is the D-Pad for Street Fighter VI? Specifically, is Gief and his 360/720 inputs viable in ranked or is the D-Pad a liability?
2:30 are you absolutely certain the tournament doesn't come with the same grip?
I’m pretty sure it has the same grips
The triggers are the same in the 2 version?
Big reason for me buying past razer controllers is the mute button for the mic, is it on this one? The past ones i’ve had had the feature. But what is the circle button in the middle?
that's one of my favorite features
Both the Fusion 4 pro and Razer v3 have very similar features and using K-Silver JH16. The power a being the far cheaper option. For that HE sticks. You are better off just getting a Gamesir kaleid or wait for the g7 pro.
Both these controllers have very little resistance to interference. So pressing the Trigger will still affect the sensors, and the fact that when you press the trigger it will try and correct it self after a second. This affect microadjustments while playing. This includes the RT as well not just LT. Which is odd. They both have to use build in deadzones. To trick the readings. If you remove them. The veil opens up.
Sure it's using HE. But they ARE NOT drift resistant. Recenter in the same spot is also mechanical impossible. They have a worse recenter mechanism than ALPS joysticks. And you get reads of 0.02-0.05+ without deadzones. If you use a dead zone it's feels off. And this includes the fact that jh16 don't last for competitive gamers. More for a casual player.
I'd rather just installed Custom HE on existing console gamepads. Or wait for a gamepad with the new JH20 or TMR.
How do you know they are using the K Silvers? I’ve been holding off on getting this controller because that module kinda sucks and wasn’t sure what they’re using here
How were you able to download the software to play on Xbox x
Mine keeps disconnecting any suggestions I have wired playing on Xbox series X
Would this work on ps5 and switch as well?
what about the apex pro digi 4 ? is better? or same same
I used the tournament v2 for splitgate back in the day and there was no controller that wanted to use as the 6 extra pads allowed me to make some nice portal cancel plays
So is i5 better to get the razaer v3 pro or xbox elite series 2 ?
I have the elite series and am looking to replace it. It is nice, but not as good as the Razer.
Can you turn iff the logo light?
9:33 bro? wft 100 usd is good pirce for a wired controller? but said 0:24.
Grabbed a TE version and it's the best the 1000 hz mode for p.c. is so responsive and all the buttons as well well worth $100
Do control freaks fit?
Yes
Hows with Pollinrate on Xbox? Same as for PC Mode 1000 Pollingrate?
I own this and it’s amazing. People complain about the price but just the fact that there won’t be stock drift. That a sale for me.
I was apprehensive about the price as well but the wired one is only like $100 which is totally reasonable in my opinion. After using it, I am completely sold on dumping the $200 for a wireless one. The wired one is good to but having wireless in more convenient imo. This controller is insanely good and love that I can remap buttons to the paddles without needing that requirement in game to do it. I can just remap which buttons are more convenient to the paddles as needed.
there are literally $18 controllers that have HE sticks that won't have stick drift. You are definitely overpaying by a lot and not realizing it. You can get a controller with the same features for under $60.
What is the pull rate for this controller on Xbox. Is it capped or can I overclock to 500-1000?
it's capped at 250 on xbox. wired or wireless.
Can we make it wired since i dont want reduced latency. Wireless is always slower, also thought the sticks were hall effects why is there drift
i have the V2 chroma wired. I really don't know how is possible for Razer to create an even better pad than the V2 chroma wired and V2 chroma wireless pads.
V3 is better. sticks are awesome. no deadzones is a gamechanger.
Chinese were the first to introduce the hall effect and they did it with a decent price . i can afford this controller , but this price is silly , way too much
The wired one is half the price
You pay 100$ more for wireless
How is this controller for racing games.. like Forza?
Do you have a promo code?
Wish they'd have kept the back button layout from the v2. The butterfly back buttons are always in the way to me.
I have the v2 and use all 6 paddles with Fortnite and finds it’s perfect positioning, previously had the v1 which is similar to v3 and the button placements got sore after a while
After having the Xbox Elite Series 1 and 2, TB Stealth Ultra Pro and Scuf Envision Pro, I can say that this Razer Wolverine V3 Pro is the best one I ever had!! Just perfect!! Let's see if it holds in the long term, but for now I just love it!!
This is exactly the feedback I was looking for because I am an elite series 2 user and I am trying to decide between either this or the envision pro. Do you find the paddles to be as comfortable as they are on the elite series 2?
@@tylerfrench4996yes!!! It’s basically the same position as the Elite!! For me it’s just perfect!! And the triggers with the mouse click are AWESOME!!!
What is your selling points
over the elite series 2? Thanks
@@CBarron-nu9vqI need to know this as well as an elite 2 user
@@CBarron-nu9vq It's just better overall... the mouse click buttons feel awesome, and the anti drift analogs are great too! I had too much problems with all 3 Elites I had.
Love the video! I plan on getting the wired version of this controller. I play at a deck wired already so why not save 100 dollars and get the wired one
Why does the razer controller look bigger than a regular xbox controller?
Can the Xbox do the 1000 hrtz or whatever being wired on the pro?
I think it dose 250 since xbox doesn’t allow any faster
I currently own the Wolverine V2 and I'm torn between getting this or the Scuf Envision Pro. Alot of people don't like the Envision because of iCue but all my peripherals/ram/cpu cooler and fans are all Corsair and all controlled by iCue so it already runs all the time in the background so I'm very familiar with it and frankly it doesn't give me any problems vs what I've seen from people and I've been using iCue for years. I'm stickly on PC as well no consoles and I mainly use mouse and kb for my games, only a few games I play with a controller so stick drift isn't really an issue for me. The v3's hall effect sticks are pretty sweet but having the ability to make actual full blown macros on the Envision pulls me more towards it.
I have the envision and the software sucks a lot. I have to turn icue off when I’m playing with it. It will reset my button lay out and I get an input lag on the back paddles which doesn’t happen with icue off. I have to hardware map the buttons and leave icue off just to use it and that intern disables some of the features of the controller like setting macros, so basically I paid $200 for a controller, but only getting $100 of it to work.
The controller does have a nice shape, but the back paddles are garbage. Instant triggers are nice though. I just bought the tournament edition of this controller because I’m over the envision bs.
I just bought the Envision today and I am returning it first thing tomorrow morning. Worst controller I've ever used, felt extremely sluggish, awkward button placement, and had drift right out of the box. I've had several generations of Xbox controllers, the Victrix Gambit, Gamesir Kaleid, and Vader 4 Pro. The Scuf Envision Pro is definitely the worst one I have ever used.
@@minifix Hall effect sticks are worse for fps games though, I’d rather get stick drift than ever play on HE sticks again after trying them lol
Vibration motors?
You can choose the intensity of the vibration
I like this I might try to pick one up sooner rather than later. I probably will go wired just for the use of PC gaming as it’s $ 100 cheaper well that’s $100 I get to save❤
The back button fixes are great.
Hall Fx sticks too!! I wonder if they’re really all that. Honestly I’d skip on the rubberized grips
I super wanna get the tournament edition :) $100 for a controller like that sounds like it would be (and I mean this literally) game changing
Just got it and it's amazing.
Have you got any problems with it?
@mxrs2blessed none at all.
@@titzmageex ok thanks
Mine came with +4 deadzone drift Hall effect sticks or not they can still drift weirdly
Crazy u can’t change profiles on the fly… gotta go into app to do so
Since this controller is getting so much praise do you see them doing a version for the PS5? Their V2 Pro for the PS5 could use a similar refresh and it would be an instant buy, as I dont like the ps5 controller shape.
Razer Wolverine V3 Pro, ftw!
Waiting for the Big Big Won Blitz 2 to ship out. Mechanical switches/triggers, TMR thumbsticks, and 2000hz polling rate.
Shame you still can't rebind the back paddles to keyboard keys, even with ReWASD which does work with the Elite controllers. I just want to be able to bind the back paddles to push-to-talk on Discord but apparently that's a high hurdle for gamepads to clear.
Bruh that's what I'm looking for. Have you found any controller that does it yet?
Didn't mention that the polling rate is double that of a standard xbox controller. Its 250 Hz wireless (standard Xbox wireless controller is 125hz) and wired is 1000hz. And in the hall of fame in Gamepadia for low latency of 4ms!
Hall effect sticks are worse for fps games though, I’d rather get stick drift than ever play on HE sticks again after trying them lol
@TechPanther7 chill out on the repeat hall effect comment lol.
@TechPanther7 so you can't calibrate the controller?
@@Mirror371 you can, have to use the Razer controller setup app in the Microsoft store or use an Xbox etc
250Hz wireless is still quite a shame considering the price point, much cheaper controllers can do much higher when wireless these days.
What a sales man.
Does it work on Xbox 1s
if not what controller should I go with
Very useful video
DO NOT BUY. They’re getting so many returns based on bad remotes. Wait a few weeks to see if they fix the issues
Foreal
looks like a good controller
Cool controller!
Sad there's no gyro since it's for Xbox. But as far as 4 paddle controllers go, it's my favorite. There's no compromises. I've been loving mine for games like Destiny, where they just keep adding so many new mechanics it's hard to cram it onto a controller these days. I make use of all 6 of the extra buttons and it's been so so nice 💖
Gyro is a stupid gimmick
@@CasepbX bro does NOT play fps games
@@CasepbX let me guess: you've never tried it out, haven't you? (and you are probably xbox only gamer)
Is it coming for PS5?
It should be. By the way, I saw a video of it working on ps5. However it doesn’t work for ps5 exclusive games.
I'm gonna buy it😊
Got mine a few days ago. Only thing I don't like about the controller are that the sticks aren't swappable, and because of this I find it hard to be accurate doing a flick with the concave joystick, where I've always used the dome for aiming because it is faster.
They are swappable and come with 2 options
bro the stray hairs on the initial shot???
It has no bluetooth
Who has a 3d print file for a stand?
Sadly it will probably have quality control issues because razer can’t figure out their qc to save them selves in the controller dep. I’m on the v2 chroma and I get it at game stop because of their warranty other wise I wouldn’t buy it. I’m on my 7th one in the span of 1-2yrs under warranty almost all had issues in either stick drift or back buttons failing since on the chroma the back ones aren’t mouse clicks idk why but they aren’t. Hall effect seems nice but for the money I’ll see if game stop will start carrying the tournament one and I’ll get it since it will be much cheaper. Over all if razer could figure out their qc they will have a really good product but as of rn I can’t recommend their controllers at all (before the chroma I was on the ultimate that had the chrome design also had terrible issues around stick drift and for some reason the shoulder buttons went through 5 of the under warranty before giving up and trying other controllers from other brands). After the chroma I have runs out of warranty I will look else where for a remote 😢
Not having full rebind freedom akin to something like ReWASD or DSX is really unfortunate. Only being able to bind gamepad buttons, not being able to bind several buttons presses to one button, and not being able to bind any button to any other button is really REALLY unfortunate.
This gamepad is simultaneously the best and worst gamepad. I like its feel and design so much but it just loses so much accessibility and QoL by having such dated and limited binding options.
Hall effect sticks are worse for fps games though, I’d rather get stick drift than ever play on HE sticks again after trying them lol
When will this be available for Ps5
It won’t don’t u see the huge Xbox logo😂😂😂
Razer, wooooo! 😎
Stick drift is still at 1.3%......for a $200+ that is unacceptable......
I thought "Pro controller" gave me hope for Nintendo. They don't have any good competitive pro controllers that don't drift after a few months, nor have hd rumble.
Playing competitive smash and being very rigorous in taking care of my controllers, the execution still breaks down controllers. Even when I never throw them, drop them, etc.
Coiorvis, Flydigi, Nyxi, iine, Hori... There are tons of better and cheaper competitors.
@@itssomeoneelse Those cheaper competitors 99% don't meet all my requirements of wireless, hd rumble, and anti drift. I did my research and went through 10 3rd party controllers wired and wireless. Don't pretend as if they don't always slack off on something for the price.
The vader 4 pro is the next thing I have my eyes on but that doesn't guarentee quality for nintendo. There's controllers that are for PC's that when they play on switch there is input delay which ruins the most important part of competitive fighting games related to controllers. Execution.
Hall effect joysticks plus all the features as a xbox elite for the same price 😂 this is worth 200 I'm sorry if u don't think so ur cheap as all get out son lol
$200 though? There's no reason to go with something else at that point.
Seems like every other controller, trigger locks, remappable buttons, grip etc what makes this controller special? What justifies the price. Literally every controller comes with these features now
The main thing it has over the elite 2 is hall effect sticks and mechanical buttons
Bro you can’t make an honest review and get commission on it
lost me at dongle
Is it a more reliable connection, though?
@@SpiderLuke not really, if it was Xbox themselves would've used it instead of BT.
@@420beffjezos but isn't that the thing? Xbox won't let anyone use their proprietary signal so everyone either has to use a 2.4ghz dongle or wired at least.
Don't have an open USB slot? You could always get an extender
Bro only uses first party controllers because of a piece of plastic 😂
The only hesitations I have are the price and the sticks. I have the FlyDigi Apex 4. It only cost me 80 bucks and it's pretty amazing so far. The sticks have adjustable tension right on the controller and that's a feature that I didn't think would make a huge deal. Now I don't think I can live without it. I'm able to completely loosen the Life stick and completely tighten the right stick. Combined with the precision ring it has my made my aim in FPS games so much better. While I could probably still add the precision ring to the Razer Wolverine that lack of stick tension would probably be noticeable. I got to find somebody who's willing to let me try it out before I buy it