"Traditional for a Pro Controller, wired is the preference" That has mainly just been marketing spin. The reason pro controllers have often been wired is because, until recently, Xbox did not license third party wireless controllers, so all third party Xbox controllers had to be wired. If you notice, The PS4 and PS5 Razer pro controllers were already wireless.
I just ordered a pro (comes in sat) after experiencing stick drift on my second elite 2 controller. For its credit I had it for like 2 years until the drift started to happen recently. I did notice no mention of the battery life or specs on the battery itself. also doesn't look like you can charge the controller while its in the carrying case. I actually dig that feature of the elite 2. Thanks for vid!
Both the Fusion 4 pro and Razer v3 have very similar features and using K-Silver JH16. The power a being the far cheaper option. For that HE sticks. You are better off just getting a Gamesir kaleid or wait for the g7 pro. Both these controllers have very little resistance to interference. So pressing the Trigger will still affect the sensors, and the fact that when you press the trigger it will try and correct it self after a second. This affect microadjustments while playing. This includes the RT as well not just LT. Which is odd. They both have to use build in deadzones. To trick the readings. If you remove them. The veil opens up. Sure it's using HE. But they ARE NOT drift resistant. Recenter in the same spot is also mechanical impossible. They have a worse recenter mechanism than ALPS joysticks. And you get reads of 0.02-0.05+ without deadzones. If you use a dead zone it's feels off. And this includes the fact that jh16 don't last for competitive gamers. More for a casual player. I'd rather just installed Custom HE on existing console gamepads. Or wait for a gamepad with the new JH20 or TMR.
How do you know they are using the K Silvers? I’ve been holding off on getting this controller because that module kinda sucks and wasn’t sure what they’re using here
Having had mine for about two weeks now, I absolutely love it. For someone who has gone through a few default controllers due to stick drift, the higher cost for these pro features and hall effect (and hopefully not having to buy more controllers) was worth it. Couldn't be happier. Loved the clear, concise review.
@@Fancy405 Not wireless and authorized for Xbox. Not for that price. Would love to see an official Xbox licensed wireless controller with Hall Effect sticks and programmable buttons. Links?
you have it, describe everything to me compared to Xbox Elite Series 2 controller as I'm undecided to get an Pro Controller that's rechargeable as my main Xbox Series S controller and Xbox battery kept falling on me@@alexandros099
I've been using razer wolverine ultimate, chroma v2 and will most likely buy this one. Some of this guy's takes were very bad tbh like the whole claw grip bs. Those 2 extra buttons at the top really are the opposite of being good for people who use the "claw grip". The effectively give you the benefits of claw without the need to hold your controller that way.
I’ve always loved the top extra buttons it’s really useful in games like Warzone picking up guns and items quickly without having to leave the left stick to use the x button to pick up or reload for that matter. Being able to always have my thumb on the stick has saved my competitive games a lot
The only chance im paying over 50 bucks for a controller is one that has 8 back buttons and an integration with xbox and my game to have aux buttons to map them as their own independent button. I dont take my fingers off the trigger and ADS- extra bumpers aren't helpful at all 😭
You know what would've been crazy for it to be the ultimate controller if it had removable module parts just like the vixtrix bfg pro. Insanely awesome wow! I can only imagine. I need this controller asap!
Can anyone confirmed reports I've been hearing of stickdrift out of the box? I heard calibrating with the app fixes it but still stickdrift out of the box when the sticks are hall effect are keeping me from pulling the trigger.
Been through two v2s, and buying 2 or even 3 controllers until you get acceptable stick drift is a fact. Still better than the elite, but still not great if you are giving it as a gift.
Since this controller is getting so much praise do you see them doing a version for the PS5? Their V2 Pro for the PS5 could use a similar refresh and it would be an instant buy, as I dont like the ps5 controller shape.
Shame you still can't rebind the back paddles to keyboard keys, even with ReWASD which does work with the Elite controllers. I just want to be able to bind the back paddles to push-to-talk on Discord but apparently that's a high hurdle for gamepads to clear.
@@sinisterpink9907 hmm not sure the vader 4 pro can be got for $60 usd it is slightly more comfortable, and has better anti-dead-zone settings for games with built in dead-zones, and has adjustable stick tension, better dpad, gyro (which i never use) i think the back buttons aren't bad for many games once you get used to it, that being said, the Wolverine had better back buttons because of the layout, and the extra shoulder buttons are easier to hit while your thumbs are on the sticks the wolverine is $100 for the wired version and $200 for wireless, which is because of the Xbox tax/ licensing fees
Mine arrives today. I prefer wired so the option is fine... i cant find a replacement that holds up against the elite controllers... i hope this works.
For anyone who cares. Got mine today. Inputs already stick before an hour of play and I hate the back button layout. The two small ones are great for me but the others force you to grip a certain way. Not like gamesir g7 apex4 or elites. They have better layout on the back. I was trying to get used to it and it would be fine but the software or firmware is bugged. Randomly disconnects and inputs stick without button being bushes. Stick tension is higher than a lot of other controllers but it wasn't bad.
For anyone who cares. Got mine today. Inputs already stick before an hour of play and I hate the back button layout. The two small ones are great for me but the others force you to grip a certain way. Not like gamesir g7 apex4 or elites. They have better layout on the back. I was trying to get used to it and it would be fine but the software or firmware is bugged. Randomly disconnects and inputs stick without button being bushes. Stick tension is higher than a lot of other controllers but it wasn't bad.
I used the tournament v2 for splitgate back in the day and there was no controller that wanted to use as the 6 extra pads allowed me to make some nice portal cancel plays
The only hesitations I have are the price and the sticks. I have the FlyDigi Apex 4. It only cost me 80 bucks and it's pretty amazing so far. The sticks have adjustable tension right on the controller and that's a feature that I didn't think would make a huge deal. Now I don't think I can live without it. I'm able to completely loosen the Life stick and completely tighten the right stick. Combined with the precision ring it has my made my aim in FPS games so much better. While I could probably still add the precision ring to the Razer Wolverine that lack of stick tension would probably be noticeable. I got to find somebody who's willing to let me try it out before I buy it
only issue is having dead zones set to 0 its not centered. i set it to 1 and its fine. hopefully there is a firmware update or something cause everything else is great
After having the Xbox Elite Series 1 and 2, TB Stealth Ultra Pro and Scuf Envision Pro, I can say that this Razer Wolverine V3 Pro is the best one I ever had!! Just perfect!! Let's see if it holds in the long term, but for now I just love it!!
This is exactly the feedback I was looking for because I am an elite series 2 user and I am trying to decide between either this or the envision pro. Do you find the paddles to be as comfortable as they are on the elite series 2?
@@tylerfrench4996yes!!! It’s basically the same position as the Elite!! For me it’s just perfect!! And the triggers with the mouse click are AWESOME!!!
@@CBarron-nu9vq It's just better overall... the mouse click buttons feel awesome, and the anti drift analogs are great too! I had too much problems with all 3 Elites I had.
I currently own the Wolverine V2 and I'm torn between getting this or the Scuf Envision Pro. Alot of people don't like the Envision because of iCue but all my peripherals/ram/cpu cooler and fans are all Corsair and all controlled by iCue so it already runs all the time in the background so I'm very familiar with it and frankly it doesn't give me any problems vs what I've seen from people and I've been using iCue for years. I'm stickly on PC as well no consoles and I mainly use mouse and kb for my games, only a few games I play with a controller so stick drift isn't really an issue for me. The v3's hall effect sticks are pretty sweet but having the ability to make actual full blown macros on the Envision pulls me more towards it.
I have the envision and the software sucks a lot. I have to turn icue off when I’m playing with it. It will reset my button lay out and I get an input lag on the back paddles which doesn’t happen with icue off. I have to hardware map the buttons and leave icue off just to use it and that intern disables some of the features of the controller like setting macros, so basically I paid $200 for a controller, but only getting $100 of it to work. The controller does have a nice shape, but the back paddles are garbage. Instant triggers are nice though. I just bought the tournament edition of this controller because I’m over the envision bs.
I just bought the Envision today and I am returning it first thing tomorrow morning. Worst controller I've ever used, felt extremely sluggish, awkward button placement, and had drift right out of the box. I've had several generations of Xbox controllers, the Victrix Gambit, Gamesir Kaleid, and Vader 4 Pro. The Scuf Envision Pro is definitely the worst one I have ever used.
Sad there's no gyro since it's for Xbox. But as far as 4 paddle controllers go, it's my favorite. There's no compromises. I've been loving mine for games like Destiny, where they just keep adding so many new mechanics it's hard to cram it onto a controller these days. I make use of all 6 of the extra buttons and it's been so so nice 💖
Honestly everything seems so good I’m not even sure if 200 USD is overpriced. Is way more bang for your buck than Sony and Microsoft offers. Especially if they also offer a cheaper wired version. I was looking for a pro controller and none met my requirements, a few days later this thing comes out and check all the boxes. Good build quality, hall ffect, extra buttons, two modes triggers and wireless.
Sadly it will probably have quality control issues because razer can’t figure out their qc to save them selves in the controller dep. I’m on the v2 chroma and I get it at game stop because of their warranty other wise I wouldn’t buy it. I’m on my 7th one in the span of 1-2yrs under warranty almost all had issues in either stick drift or back buttons failing since on the chroma the back ones aren’t mouse clicks idk why but they aren’t. Hall effect seems nice but for the money I’ll see if game stop will start carrying the tournament one and I’ll get it since it will be much cheaper. Over all if razer could figure out their qc they will have a really good product but as of rn I can’t recommend their controllers at all (before the chroma I was on the ultimate that had the chrome design also had terrible issues around stick drift and for some reason the shoulder buttons went through 5 of the under warranty before giving up and trying other controllers from other brands). After the chroma I have runs out of warranty I will look else where for a remote 😢
Got mine a few days ago. Only thing I don't like about the controller are that the sticks aren't swappable, and because of this I find it hard to be accurate doing a flick with the concave joystick, where I've always used the dome for aiming because it is faster.
@@beffjezos-i2p but isn't that the thing? Xbox won't let anyone use their proprietary signal so everyone either has to use a 2.4ghz dongle or wired at least.
Had this and sent it back, on PC you have to have the dongle in direct sight from the controller, if it is behind the PC or under a desk it will disconnect, the fact the sticks cannot be tensioned is a massive miss from Razer, out of the box the stick drift was awful, they have released a firmware update but playing CoD you could notice the sticks was not responsive straight away due to set the dead zone to number 1 instead of 0, I have no idea what it is like after the update as mine was boxed back up and ready to send back. I also found the controller too small, (personal opinion, I do have large hands) comparing it to the Elite 2 it is not as comfy, I am waiting for the Vader 4 Pro to be delivered instead, also a lot cheaper, lots of good features like the additional top button and the back 4 buttons being mouse click was good but they missed an opportunity to make the perfect controller. To add not having charging within the case like the Elite 2 was a really big downside for me.
You're doing what I'm doing: Trying the razer V3 and vader 4 at the same time lol. I just got both controllers today and doing lots of testing with different games to choose only one to keep. I'm using the wired V3 tournament edition, half the price of the wireless one, which makes it compete really close in price with the vader 4.
I'm in the opposite situation. I have the Vader 4 Pro which has constant issues of disconnecting, so I ordered a second Vader 4 Pro which disconnects even more - several times a day. It also has poor grip, and the Talon grip tape I bought helped but fairly quickly started to peel and collect dirt. I was hoping the Wolverine V3 might be the solution, but from what you're saying it doesn't seem hopeful.
I thought "Pro controller" gave me hope for Nintendo. They don't have any good competitive pro controllers that don't drift after a few months, nor have hd rumble. Playing competitive smash and being very rigorous in taking care of my controllers, the execution still breaks down controllers. Even when I never throw them, drop them, etc.
@@itssomeoneelse Those cheaper competitors 99% don't meet all my requirements of wireless, hd rumble, and anti drift. I did my research and went through 10 3rd party controllers wired and wireless. Don't pretend as if they don't always slack off on something for the price. The vader 4 pro is the next thing I have my eyes on but that doesn't guarentee quality for nintendo. There's controllers that are for PC's that when they play on switch there is input delay which ruins the most important part of competitive fighting games related to controllers. Execution.
I don't understand the hype about this controller. Nobody in the videos talks about the center point, which is just bad and doesn't calibrate if they set the dead zone to 0. 80 euro controllers can do that better and here you have to spend over 200? No thanks
I find it kind of ironic that you came out with a video about this controller, since recently I was thinking about buying it😅 I have been having a lot of controllers just die on me or something goes wrong that makes it hard to play games with on PC.
Razer....meh, i prefer my ps5 controller, i usually tend to love Xbox one and even the new variants too, but im not really into razer made products. Despite all that, nice review
@@raff8435 Yikes bro... Let me recommend to you, Flydigi. I've been using the Vader 3 Pro. I have a Vader 4 Pro on the way. But might not use it as much as the 3 since ReWASD only supports the V3P. I play pretty much every game on controller. I've been practicing gyro and playing games like Valorant on controller. Shit is hard, but, the V3P is solid. Get it from a good seller like GadgetHyper. They tend to have way less QC issues.
@@K_ZloX I ordered the vader 4 pro on amazon September 25 and it arrived today. I also had to wait 2 weeks for the wired V3 wolverine. So, I currently have both and putting them through the tests to pick one to keep.
Yea the Bluetooth dongle is a no buy for me should have been direct connect wireless to the Xbox Series X. Also who the fuck wants a wired pro controller lol.
@@maritimesteak8540 Hell no that's crap you gotta get up and switch Bluetooth dongles from one console to the other instead of it connecting directly it takes up a USB port on the system it's generally less reliable then the direction connection is because of interference.
@@GamingWithTravis3 I've never had a wireless controller disconnect on me and the idea of wireless latency is such a fallacy it's an excuse ppl online use when they lose the level of input latency from a wireless controller is in the milliseconds it's literally imperceptible to the average person lol
Well fortunately most people still don’t care for gyro, so they don’t care. I personally like gyro, but I can accept that most people don’t care about it. I’d argue most people care about Hall effect sticks a lot more than gyro.
@@VeritabIlIti have you actually seen some videos of people using gyro? Not saying it’s for everyone. But I’ve seen people using gyro on games like apex legends, and it almost looks like they are using a mouse to aim. It’s a lot more intuitive than you think
well hello also just wanna say i think i wouldnt go for pro controllers as keyboard and mouse is better bcuz like controllers are mainly used for 3rd person games so
"Traditional for a Pro Controller, wired is the preference" That has mainly just been marketing spin. The reason pro controllers have often been wired is because, until recently, Xbox did not license third party wireless controllers, so all third party Xbox controllers had to be wired. If you notice, The PS4 and PS5 Razer pro controllers were already wireless.
Exactly! Wire is just a pain in the ass
Gotta add the gaslighting 😅
@@EvilB34ns ikr! so annoying that they think we're just dumb.
Also the very miniscule difference in latency most people would never notice
@@Fancy405 for some newer products, the latency of wireless is actually lower than wired (somehow).
I just ordered a pro (comes in sat) after experiencing stick drift on my second elite 2 controller. For its credit I had it for like 2 years until the drift started to happen recently. I did notice no mention of the battery life or specs on the battery itself. also doesn't look like you can charge the controller while its in the carrying case. I actually dig that feature of the elite 2.
Thanks for vid!
Both the Fusion 4 pro and Razer v3 have very similar features and using K-Silver JH16. The power a being the far cheaper option. For that HE sticks. You are better off just getting a Gamesir kaleid or wait for the g7 pro.
Both these controllers have very little resistance to interference. So pressing the Trigger will still affect the sensors, and the fact that when you press the trigger it will try and correct it self after a second. This affect microadjustments while playing. This includes the RT as well not just LT. Which is odd. They both have to use build in deadzones. To trick the readings. If you remove them. The veil opens up.
Sure it's using HE. But they ARE NOT drift resistant. Recenter in the same spot is also mechanical impossible. They have a worse recenter mechanism than ALPS joysticks. And you get reads of 0.02-0.05+ without deadzones. If you use a dead zone it's feels off. And this includes the fact that jh16 don't last for competitive gamers. More for a casual player.
I'd rather just installed Custom HE on existing console gamepads. Or wait for a gamepad with the new JH20 or TMR.
How do you know they are using the K Silvers? I’ve been holding off on getting this controller because that module kinda sucks and wasn’t sure what they’re using here
thank god they finally placed the back buttons in a usable lay out
Having had mine for about two weeks now, I absolutely love it. For someone who has gone through a few default controllers due to stick drift, the higher cost for these pro features and hall effect (and hopefully not having to buy more controllers) was worth it. Couldn't be happier. Loved the clear, concise review.
@@SeanMcKay does it have vibration?
@@junior-OG Not only does it have vibration, you can set the intensity of the vibration.
@@SeanMcKay thanks 👍
these features are present on $40 controllers
@@Fancy405 Not wireless and authorized for Xbox. Not for that price. Would love to see an official Xbox licensed wireless controller with Hall Effect sticks and programmable buttons. Links?
When my controller is charging, the RGB light only lights up for three seconds. Is it same with you?
I am thinking about checking out the Razer wolverine V3 Pro wireless controller for my Xbox, is it worth the investment?
I have and i think it's amazing
you have it, describe everything to me compared to Xbox Elite Series 2 controller as I'm undecided to get an Pro Controller that's rechargeable as my main Xbox Series S controller and Xbox battery kept falling on me@@alexandros099
I've been using razer wolverine ultimate, chroma v2 and will most likely buy this one. Some of this guy's takes were very bad tbh like the whole claw grip bs. Those 2 extra buttons at the top really are the opposite of being good for people who use the "claw grip". The effectively give you the benefits of claw without the need to hold your controller that way.
@@alexandros099can you tell me if the back buttons are so easy to click accidentally please ?
@aliaadels3 it's very difficult to push them involuntarily
Man, this might be the one to replace my Elite Series 2. Tempting!!
Man imma just get the wired I play Pc any way
When will this be available for Ps5
I’ve always loved the top extra buttons it’s really useful in games like Warzone picking up guns and items quickly without having to leave the left stick to use the x button to pick up or reload for that matter. Being able to always have my thumb on the stick has saved my competitive games a lot
The only chance im paying over 50 bucks for a controller is one that has 8 back buttons and an integration with xbox and my game to have aux buttons to map them as their own independent button. I dont take my fingers off the trigger and ADS- extra bumpers aren't helpful at all 😭
Is the dpad less smooshy and are buttons still smaller than the console controller?
The two shoulder buttons are the only reason I bought this controller. The Raiju had them and they're great for FPS games.
Why does the razer controller look bigger than a regular xbox controller?
What is the pull rate for this controller on Xbox. Is it capped or can I overclock to 500-1000?
it's capped at 250 on xbox. wired or wireless.
You know what would've been crazy for it to be the ultimate controller if it had removable module parts just like the vixtrix bfg pro. Insanely awesome wow! I can only imagine. I need this controller asap!
Can anyone confirmed reports I've been hearing of stickdrift out of the box? I heard calibrating with the app fixes it but still stickdrift out of the box when the sticks are hall effect are keeping me from pulling the trigger.
Been through two v2s, and buying 2 or even 3 controllers until you get acceptable stick drift is a fact. Still better than the elite, but still not great if you are giving it as a gift.
Can we make it wired since i dont want reduced latency. Wireless is always slower, also thought the sticks were hall effects why is there drift
Would this work on ps5 and switch as well?
Is it coming for PS5?
Hello can you also swap the sticks to southpaw or can you only customize the buttons?
Hows with Pollinrate on Xbox? Same as for PC Mode 1000 Pollingrate?
Since this controller is getting so much praise do you see them doing a version for the PS5? Their V2 Pro for the PS5 could use a similar refresh and it would be an instant buy, as I dont like the ps5 controller shape.
Shame you still can't rebind the back paddles to keyboard keys, even with ReWASD which does work with the Elite controllers. I just want to be able to bind the back paddles to push-to-talk on Discord but apparently that's a high hurdle for gamepads to clear.
I have this controller and i love it so much! This and the Vader 4 Pro have made it so easy and fun to play games lol
Which do you prefer, vader or this? I heard the wolverine is not as comfortable bc of the short handles
@@sinisterpink9907 hmm not sure
the vader 4 pro can be got for $60 usd
it is slightly more comfortable, and has better anti-dead-zone settings for games with built in dead-zones, and has adjustable stick tension, better dpad, gyro (which i never use)
i think the back buttons aren't bad for many games once you get used to it, that being said, the Wolverine had better back buttons because of the layout, and the extra shoulder buttons are easier to hit while your thumbs are on the sticks
the wolverine is $100 for the wired version and $200 for wireless, which is because of the Xbox tax/ licensing fees
Do control freaks fit?
Mine arrives today. I prefer wired so the option is fine... i cant find a replacement that holds up against the elite controllers... i hope this works.
For anyone who cares. Got mine today. Inputs already stick before an hour of play and I hate the back button layout. The two small ones are great for me but the others force you to grip a certain way. Not like gamesir g7 apex4 or elites. They have better layout on the back. I was trying to get used to it and it would be fine but the software or firmware is bugged. Randomly disconnects and inputs stick without button being bushes. Stick tension is higher than a lot of other controllers but it wasn't bad.
For anyone who cares. Got mine today. Inputs already stick before an hour of play and I hate the back button layout. The two small ones are great for me but the others force you to grip a certain way. Not like gamesir g7 apex4 or elites. They have better layout on the back. I was trying to get used to it and it would be fine but the software or firmware is bugged. Randomly disconnects and inputs stick without button being bushes. Stick tension is higher than a lot of other controllers but it wasn't bad.
I used the tournament v2 for splitgate back in the day and there was no controller that wanted to use as the 6 extra pads allowed me to make some nice portal cancel plays
Just so everyone knows it's still double the speed of an elite 2 controller in wireless mode
wired controllers FTW
The only hesitations I have are the price and the sticks. I have the FlyDigi Apex 4. It only cost me 80 bucks and it's pretty amazing so far. The sticks have adjustable tension right on the controller and that's a feature that I didn't think would make a huge deal. Now I don't think I can live without it. I'm able to completely loosen the Life stick and completely tighten the right stick. Combined with the precision ring it has my made my aim in FPS games so much better. While I could probably still add the precision ring to the Razer Wolverine that lack of stick tension would probably be noticeable. I got to find somebody who's willing to let me try it out before I buy it
what about the apex pro digi 4 ? is better? or same same
Crazy u can’t change profiles on the fly… gotta go into app to do so
I purchased the wired version for 100 less. It’s my first pro controller and have really enjoyed it so far.
only issue is having dead zones set to 0 its not centered. i set it to 1 and its fine. hopefully there is a firmware update or something cause everything else is great
There is a firmware update, but you currently need to use a PC to install it into the controller. It is due on the Xbox app.
@@1nickybe nice. I use it on pc just haven’t looked to see if there’s was one yet. Thank you for letting me know
When u have it at 0 do also set ur in game deadzones to 0 aswell?
Does your PC recognize your dongle after shutdown mine doesn't have to unplug and plug back in after a shutdown@@jakejdomo
@@bradoakes6756 I haven’t used the dongle. I’ve only used it plugged in
I've been interested in the Wolverine V2 for PS5, if they could make the V3 for that console I'd very much consider picking one up.
After having the Xbox Elite Series 1 and 2, TB Stealth Ultra Pro and Scuf Envision Pro, I can say that this Razer Wolverine V3 Pro is the best one I ever had!! Just perfect!! Let's see if it holds in the long term, but for now I just love it!!
This is exactly the feedback I was looking for because I am an elite series 2 user and I am trying to decide between either this or the envision pro. Do you find the paddles to be as comfortable as they are on the elite series 2?
@@tylerfrench4996yes!!! It’s basically the same position as the Elite!! For me it’s just perfect!! And the triggers with the mouse click are AWESOME!!!
What is your selling points
over the elite series 2? Thanks
@@CBarron-nu9vqI need to know this as well as an elite 2 user
@@CBarron-nu9vq It's just better overall... the mouse click buttons feel awesome, and the anti drift analogs are great too! I had too much problems with all 3 Elites I had.
Does it work on Xbox 1s
if not what controller should I go with
Razer Wolverine V3 Pro, ftw!
Mine came with +4 deadzone drift Hall effect sticks or not they can still drift weirdly
I currently own the Wolverine V2 and I'm torn between getting this or the Scuf Envision Pro. Alot of people don't like the Envision because of iCue but all my peripherals/ram/cpu cooler and fans are all Corsair and all controlled by iCue so it already runs all the time in the background so I'm very familiar with it and frankly it doesn't give me any problems vs what I've seen from people and I've been using iCue for years. I'm stickly on PC as well no consoles and I mainly use mouse and kb for my games, only a few games I play with a controller so stick drift isn't really an issue for me. The v3's hall effect sticks are pretty sweet but having the ability to make actual full blown macros on the Envision pulls me more towards it.
I have the envision and the software sucks a lot. I have to turn icue off when I’m playing with it. It will reset my button lay out and I get an input lag on the back paddles which doesn’t happen with icue off. I have to hardware map the buttons and leave icue off just to use it and that intern disables some of the features of the controller like setting macros, so basically I paid $200 for a controller, but only getting $100 of it to work.
The controller does have a nice shape, but the back paddles are garbage. Instant triggers are nice though. I just bought the tournament edition of this controller because I’m over the envision bs.
I just bought the Envision today and I am returning it first thing tomorrow morning. Worst controller I've ever used, felt extremely sluggish, awkward button placement, and had drift right out of the box. I've had several generations of Xbox controllers, the Victrix Gambit, Gamesir Kaleid, and Vader 4 Pro. The Scuf Envision Pro is definitely the worst one I have ever used.
Sad there's no gyro since it's for Xbox. But as far as 4 paddle controllers go, it's my favorite. There's no compromises. I've been loving mine for games like Destiny, where they just keep adding so many new mechanics it's hard to cram it onto a controller these days. I make use of all 6 of the extra buttons and it's been so so nice 💖
Gyro is a stupid gimmick
@@CasepbX bro does NOT play fps games
@@CasepbX let me guess: you've never tried it out, haven't you? (and you are probably xbox only gamer)
looks like a good controller
bro the stray hairs on the initial shot???
Honestly everything seems so good I’m not even sure if 200 USD is overpriced. Is way more bang for your buck than Sony and Microsoft offers. Especially if they also offer a cheaper wired version.
I was looking for a pro controller and none met my requirements, a few days later this thing comes out and check all the boxes.
Good build quality, hall ffect, extra buttons, two modes triggers and wireless.
If I could trade my elite series 2 for this I would tbh it’s def worth it with Hall effect And polling rate
Waiting for the Big Big Won Blitz 2 to ship out. Mechanical switches/triggers, TMR thumbsticks, and 2000hz polling rate.
It has no bluetooth
Sadly it will probably have quality control issues because razer can’t figure out their qc to save them selves in the controller dep. I’m on the v2 chroma and I get it at game stop because of their warranty other wise I wouldn’t buy it. I’m on my 7th one in the span of 1-2yrs under warranty almost all had issues in either stick drift or back buttons failing since on the chroma the back ones aren’t mouse clicks idk why but they aren’t. Hall effect seems nice but for the money I’ll see if game stop will start carrying the tournament one and I’ll get it since it will be much cheaper. Over all if razer could figure out their qc they will have a really good product but as of rn I can’t recommend their controllers at all (before the chroma I was on the ultimate that had the chrome design also had terrible issues around stick drift and for some reason the shoulder buttons went through 5 of the under warranty before giving up and trying other controllers from other brands). After the chroma I have runs out of warranty I will look else where for a remote 😢
Cool controller!
Got mine a few days ago. Only thing I don't like about the controller are that the sticks aren't swappable, and because of this I find it hard to be accurate doing a flick with the concave joystick, where I've always used the dome for aiming because it is faster.
They are swappable and come with 2 options
Vibration motors?
You can choose the intensity of the vibration
9:33 bro? wft 100 usd is good pirce for a wired controller? but said 0:24.
Razer, wooooo! 😎
$200 though? There's no reason to go with something else at that point.
lost me at dongle
Is it a more reliable connection, though?
@@SpiderLuke not really, if it was Xbox themselves would've used it instead of BT.
@@beffjezos-i2p but isn't that the thing? Xbox won't let anyone use their proprietary signal so everyone either has to use a 2.4ghz dongle or wired at least.
Don't have an open USB slot? You could always get an extender
Bro only uses first party controllers because of a piece of plastic 😂
Had this and sent it back, on PC you have to have the dongle in direct sight from the controller, if it is behind the PC or under a desk it will disconnect, the fact the sticks cannot be tensioned is a massive miss from Razer, out of the box the stick drift was awful, they have released a firmware update but playing CoD you could notice the sticks was not responsive straight away due to set the dead zone to number 1 instead of 0, I have no idea what it is like after the update as mine was boxed back up and ready to send back. I also found the controller too small, (personal opinion, I do have large hands) comparing it to the Elite 2 it is not as comfy, I am waiting for the Vader 4 Pro to be delivered instead, also a lot cheaper, lots of good features like the additional top button and the back 4 buttons being mouse click was good but they missed an opportunity to make the perfect controller. To add not having charging within the case like the Elite 2 was a really big downside for me.
You're doing what I'm doing: Trying the razer V3 and vader 4 at the same time lol. I just got both controllers today and doing lots of testing with different games to choose only one to keep. I'm using the wired V3 tournament edition, half the price of the wireless one, which makes it compete really close in price with the vader 4.
I'm in the opposite situation. I have the Vader 4 Pro which has constant issues of disconnecting, so I ordered a second Vader 4 Pro which disconnects even more - several times a day. It also has poor grip, and the Talon grip tape I bought helped but fairly quickly started to peel and collect dirt. I was hoping the Wolverine V3 might be the solution, but from what you're saying it doesn't seem hopeful.
I thought "Pro controller" gave me hope for Nintendo. They don't have any good competitive pro controllers that don't drift after a few months, nor have hd rumble.
Playing competitive smash and being very rigorous in taking care of my controllers, the execution still breaks down controllers. Even when I never throw them, drop them, etc.
Coiorvis, Flydigi, Nyxi, iine, Hori... There are tons of better and cheaper competitors.
@@itssomeoneelse Those cheaper competitors 99% don't meet all my requirements of wireless, hd rumble, and anti drift. I did my research and went through 10 3rd party controllers wired and wireless. Don't pretend as if they don't always slack off on something for the price.
The vader 4 pro is the next thing I have my eyes on but that doesn't guarentee quality for nintendo. There's controllers that are for PC's that when they play on switch there is input delay which ruins the most important part of competitive fighting games related to controllers. Execution.
200$/€? no thanks
yeah, I'd rather get the 8bitdo Ultimate for $60.
@@beffjezos-i2p Yeah i HAD that one, sadly it drifted beyond fixing. had to throw it away.
Bruh
It's 100 for the wired tournament edition. I would get that one
I just want a gyro for my xbox :')
Bro you can’t make an honest review and get commission on it
I don't understand the hype about this controller. Nobody in the videos talks about the center point, which is just bad and doesn't calibrate if they set the dead zone to 0. 80 euro controllers can do that better and here you have to spend over 200? No thanks
using 0 deadzone isnt a good idea on any controller
125hz polling rate on Xbox… why 💀
It’s 250 hz with this controller
DO NOT BUY. They’re getting so many returns based on bad remotes. Wait a few weeks to see if they fix the issues
WIRELESS COME ON!
I've been waiting for this since the wolverine ultimate. This is great
I find it kind of ironic that you came out with a video about this controller, since recently I was thinking about buying it😅
I have been having a lot of controllers just die on me or something goes wrong that makes it hard to play games with on PC.
it would be the perfect controller, if it had gyro...
Razer controllers have always been overpriced for controllers with basic features.
Huh…🎉
Hey buddy! I've just got it yesterday. It was awesome! 1 kind of feel holding that controller.... ❤❤❤
lmao!
Razer....meh, i prefer my ps5 controller, i usually tend to love Xbox one and even the new variants too, but im not really into razer made products.
Despite all that, nice review
My God gyro aiming exist, they're still aiming with sticks? That primitive as hell.
It's not a pro controller if it doesn't have gyro, its just outdated and pointless.
I can't even put the deadzone to 0, I can't play like that is too much drift... 200 bucks man....... Very disappointed
Update the firmware bro. They fixed that almost a month ago
@@JoshTheHraefn5656 I already did, but they still have drift 😭
@@raff8435 Yikes bro... Let me recommend to you, Flydigi. I've been using the Vader 3 Pro. I have a Vader 4 Pro on the way. But might not use it as much as the 3 since ReWASD only supports the V3P. I play pretty much every game on controller. I've been practicing gyro and playing games like Valorant on controller. Shit is hard, but, the V3P is solid. Get it from a good seller like GadgetHyper. They tend to have way less QC issues.
Chinese controllers are better than these, and much cheaper.
The flydigi vader 4 pro is better but I'm not waiting 2 months for delivery.
@@K_ZloX I ordered the vader 4 pro on amazon September 25 and it arrived today. I also had to wait 2 weeks for the wired V3 wolverine. So, I currently have both and putting them through the tests to pick one to keep.
2:30 are you absolutely certain the tournament doesn't come with the same grip?
I’m pretty sure it has the same grips
That shit looks hella cheap just get an elite 2
200 dollars and its ugly no thanks. buy a gamesir g7 se for 40 bucks.
Razer, remove features and reintroduce them later at a higher price
Yea the Bluetooth dongle is a no buy for me should have been direct connect wireless to the Xbox Series X. Also who the fuck wants a wired pro controller lol.
nobody lol
Nah Bluetooth dongles are so superior I don't know where this mindset comes from tbh
@@maritimesteak8540
Hell no that's crap you gotta get up and switch Bluetooth dongles from one console to the other instead of it connecting directly it takes up a USB port on the system it's generally less reliable then the direction connection is because of interference.
I want wired because it is “pro.” Wired creates less latency and sometimes when I use wireless, my controller disconnects.
@@GamingWithTravis3
I've never had a wireless controller disconnect on me and the idea of wireless latency is such a fallacy it's an excuse ppl online use when they lose the level of input latency from a wireless controller is in the milliseconds it's literally imperceptible to the average person lol
Yeah its just another overpriced Razer product.
Stick drift is super rare in my opinion
It's not super rare for Nintendo pro controller users
No vibration 😂 it’s not the best. The original series x Xbox controller is pro enough
No vibration ? really ?
Eww vibration
dude just glazing it all up for a uber casual player
No gyro, so no it isnt
Well fortunately most people still don’t care for gyro, so they don’t care. I personally like gyro, but I can accept that most people don’t care about it.
I’d argue most people care about Hall effect sticks a lot more than gyro.
Xbox and xinput doesn't support gyro, it is Microsoft who is to blame for not having gyro support on their consoles, not Razer.
@@tetchedskate3366 tbh this controller should have gyro specially those gamers who plays emulated games like RPCS3 and Yujinx those junk need gyro
Stop trying to make motion controls happen. It's not gonna happen.
@@VeritabIlIti have you actually seen some videos of people using gyro? Not saying it’s for everyone. But I’ve seen people using gyro on games like apex legends, and it almost looks like they are using a mouse to aim. It’s a lot more intuitive than you think
well hello also just wanna say i think i wouldnt go for pro controllers as keyboard and mouse is better bcuz like controllers are mainly used for 3rd person games so
No like and view in 24 second bro fell off
Was expecting this comment
@@R1IY2N oh lol
Isn't this type of comment a little outdated?