New Shocks & Full Jeep Gladiator Exhaust, Are they a Noticeable Improvement?
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- These might be the last big upgrades for our Jeep Gladiator for a while!!!
Ive had these shocks and exhaust parts for a few months now, waiting for a good time to make some videos for you guys.
Well, i think i found a fun way to turn this into a video!
Cassie is gone for the weekend, so the plan is to install the shocks and full exhaust on the JT. Once she gets back, we will see if she notices a difference in how it drives and handles!!
After i installed everything, i took it for a test drive myself...
The Teraflex Falcon shocks are amazing on this Jeep. The body roll is gone, handling has improved alot (It actually drives straighter since the body isnt rocking), and they provide a nice firm ride without being too stiff. The adjustments are very nice, especially on this truck.. I noticed a major difference in the ride when i installed the rooftop tent and rack on the bed. On top of that, when the bed is loaded down, the ride gets too soft in the rear. The Falcon shocks will allow us to stiffen up the rear end with the quick adjust feature on the 3.3s. I have these shocks on the JK, and i have loved them, so im sure ill continue to be happy with this choice down the road
I then installed the Downpipes (Headers), and Y pipe from AFE power. These things look amazing, the welds are beautiful, and the piping and bends are a major improvement over stock.
Right off the bat, the sound is so much deeper, not raspy, but truly deeper with a very aggressive tone.
The power difference is clearly felt in the lower RPMs, continuing up to 3K RPMs.
I did a 0-60 test, and found out it didnt improve. It could have been from a few factors.. Warmer ambient temp, break in of the new Catalytic convertors, ECM relearn time, or just the fact that the power added was not seen in a 0-60 test since that is all top end performance.
Overall, the shocks are amazing, and the exhaust power and sound is clearly noticeable when daily driving. Hopefully we can get the JT on the dyno sometime soon!
Thanks for watching!!! See you guys soon
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This perfectly sums up the Falcons shocks. 20 minutes to install, a lifetime trying to justify the purchase.
You need a tune for exhaust mods to make a difference in performance. MPG might be better and sound will sound louder. But you have to tune to get the engine improvements.
Sneaky Ben
“Awww, no now I can’t hit you” 🤣 There are support groups for that Ben...thanks for the laughs!
The computer could still be adjusting to the different exhaust and cats
shadowlm315 hmm
That’s what I’m thinking.
Try it again after some decent amount of driving and post in it. I’d be curious.. about
@@JKGearandGadgets It probably needs a tune. The factory ECU doesn't know you've added those mods, fuelling and timing dont match the upgrades.
Maybe disconnect the battery?
Best Jeep content on RUclips hands down!
My wife would never notice. The only thing she notices in the bank account..
......yup thats what i did when i bought the aluminum belly pan from artec industries......and my truck is still stock,but its my baby so i gotta protect her for what's later on coming for her XD
thus the reason I do the bank stuff 😜
I have the AFE y pipe paired with the AWE Tread single exit exhaust. Its a match made in heaven for the 3.6 Gladiator. AWE already has a great tone and the AFE y pipe made it slightly deeper and snappier up high in the revs. I can attest that the mid level torque bump is real and day to day driving feels improved. Also have the mishimoto intake. Unfortunately with 22’ Mojave no simple dealer friendly tuning yet.
You have a super supportive wife in terms of your passion/hobby. She obviously enjoys it, but mostly/ultimately because you do. you're a lucky dude. Great video as always. ✌🏻
The ECM is still sending out the same fuel and spark etc. You need a tuner.
She is a total keeper..!! She noticed the shocks by seeing them. And also noticed the pep...wow..!
Ah the sneak attack, nice work! Happy Mother’s Day
In your case u r trying to align the pipe geometry & they used a water slide method to hve gentle curve & end up where they need the pipe to tie n. The other way is a coaster barrel roll like a jet plane. A straight run would b to tie a curve & limit flow but if piping was flex kind, see dryer vent flex vs ac duct tubing, & can do a barrel roll a twist to get the end pipe tight run u need.
If the exhaust rated flex piping could twist to make the run in tight space w/out any sharp curves, then u rap the flex piping w/sealant painting or taping your done, no water slide odd custom piping for every blood car make & model engine & diff yrs of engines. Way easier, faster, twist flex piping to plumb damn near any make or model, & just rap it up to finish it off,simple. Again not just your job, but every car made or already made straighter run more power, better performance, easy cheap up grade, & we save fuel guess pollution too(who cares). Tech will save planet what ever engine u drive.
Cassie is awesome!
I have to agree!
Best part is when Cassie hits Ben and the word Assault!!! Pops up.
The ECM is gonna need to relearn the increased Flow. Or you might need a Tune.
Lol watching that makes me so glad I put a LT1 in mine
I have been waiting for a video to come out about the AFE twisted metal stuff for the JT! Excited to hear about power and MPG once it all wears in and ECU learns or gets reprogrammed
Shocks are velocity sensitive. They resist movement with more force as the shaft speed increases. When you are complaining about the side to side sway of the Fox, I think that comes down to low speed damping. When you say you hit a bump and they firm up, now you are in high speed damping. I think mid speed is more in the brake dive/chassis roll during evasive maneuver territory, but I could be wrong.
I does sound good. Jeep actually went to the trouble to equalize the length of the tubes for each bank. If the flow has increased the ECU might take some time to adjust to the new exhaust. The change in exhaust can affect multiple ranges of RPM differently. This might be why it feel more torquey at low to mid RPM, but it timed slower on 0-60 because you are up in the high RPM range there and the ECU needs to adjust the air fuel ratio to the increased airflow. Who knows what is really going on in the ECU. Tuning it might be the best way to make sure it's running how you want.
Your correct with all of that! The fox shocks are a progressive valved shock, like you said they dampen depending on velocity. I’m just not a big fan of the valving of them on this Jeep.
The exhaust sounds really good. I like the MBRP exhaust I installed on my 05 Liberty and I will have to compare AFE options when I upgrade my 2016 JK. You can't get much passed your wife and her expressions "priceless". Keep having fun and be safe.
Do a supercharger on the JK
I love that you covered why you chose to go with those specific shocks and why you are removing the Fox ones.
great video and into great detail...love it.
Hahaha - I've watched three videos in the last hour. I like the way you guys are doing them. Finding out tomorrow if we are driving twelve hours to pick up a Gladiator :-) haha
Love that you are modding it instead of replacing the windshield
No point I putting in another factory one. The JL and JT factory windshields suck.. this is very common. I’m waiting for an aftermarket company to make a high strength replacement.
No point in spending $600 on something that’s probably going to break again in less than 10k miles.
1:18 I am pretty sure you coordinate with the biker ride by to make a point about exhaust!
Haha, bikers and diesel trucks always gas it by my house. I think they like showing off 😂
Awha the old lets taker for a spin in the woods trick . Giddy up. 🤪
engine needs time to make adjustments and "relearn" the new normal. You may need a custom tune with the new cats as well or even tune out the last 02 if the efficiency of the converters is too much less.
Cool to see you upgraded to the falcons. I got the same ones and really enjoy them. I have the front set to 2.3 and rear to 2.4. I also have the sp2 set to soft due to being in Colorado and sometimes driving to North Dakota in the winter time. Enjoy the upgrades!
On the 0-60 times might have to wait till the computer readjusts the settings for the new input. After that might get better time
I hate moving BUT I'm happy about where your moving!
The stock ecu will compensate for any parts you put on a car. You have to get it tuned to see any real world gains unfortunately. But it's looking good and sounding great with the full exhaust!
Good afternoon,
I love all content you guys are posting!
Thank you so much
I have a shock question for you if I may have your opinion I would greatly appreciate it.
I have a stock gladiator Rubicon on 35s and am looking to upgrade my shocks to the Falcon adjustable 3.3. I know you ran them for a good amount of time and wanted your on-road opinion. Most of what my family and I do now is 90% on the road and 10% on the trail. I’m looking for the best on-road ride and hanging I can get. In your opinion will upgrading these shocks improve my on-road handling thank you again so much for your inspiration. Have a great day.
Regards,
Chris
Ben, Plug that Scorcher module in and see what what happens. Should compliment the other upgrades.
Just in time for mother's day. Nice little surprise. Now that she is so into jeeps it's going to be harder to get things past her.
Assault!!! 😂😂 and Cassie... what a party pooper! Noticing the shocks before you got on the road. Guess your gonna have to do a camouflage next time so she won’t notice before hand!
Now that it has more sound anyways seems like the Rock Basher exhaust would have been the best way to go... Inexpensive and as I remember had the best 0-60 in your previous video. Have one on my JT and love it!
I love your wife she is not a wimp girl , she notices everything on the Jeep ,awesome🙂 👏👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
A BBQ grill beat you off the line at the intersection🤣 With today’s engine controls to feel the full gains of any performance mods it’s probably going to require a warranty crushing tune.
"Working in there is very tight"
bloodied hand in the shot, ouch
Yeah, it got me good
You sound kinda paid for.
Yes falcon shocks are high quality parts
But so are fox. 3.3 are a major upgrade from factory fox shocks but they ain't that bad.
I just didn’t like how the Fox shocks rode on this jeep. With the added weight, the Fox shocks made it handle like crap.
@@JKGearandGadgets hmmm. Thank you so much for that. I'm looking into purchasing a JLU for my next ride and I was thinking the mopar lift with 35s would be good but I have plans for a rtt
So I may need a better lift.
The JLU will be a great choice! But if you plan on a RTT I would skip on the mopar lift with the Fox shocks. You’ll get a lot of body roll.
You could always add a blower if you need performance.
It’s funny you say the fox shocks are loose, my Jeep joy had a 3.25 rough country lift installed on it with their shocks thing rode like a bobble head, I ended up putting on fox 2.0 performance shocks and I love them, ride perfect for me
Jku*
If you wan to take advantage of better air flow you need to tune the engine with a tuner program.
Awesome video. Of course she noticed the Shocks she is a Jeep Girl and mechanic. Good luck on y'alls move. I hope you got a big shop.
I love this channel. Thanks guys !
Thanks for your support!
Not gonna lie, that was entertaining! Another great video guys!
Thank you 🤟
the reason u lost power, #s has to do w/ the factory has dialed in the stuff they use to save money but also to math out the exact spec for back flow & then they custom order it up & get it built for them. The only way to beat them on exaust is a header kit real world better air flow or shorter run, or free flowing mufflers. THAT is it, big is heavier, & wt effects performance more than any thing else.
Thanks for the video. I guess I'll be upgrading to the Fox performance 2.0 shocks at 1/3 the price of those Falcons 3.3.
Of course she was going to notice, you tought her well. 👍
You two are great. Keep up the content!
Thank you for your support!
super sick!! i have the 3.3 falcons on my JK. i Actually enjoy setting 3 more than all the other settings additionally i have Magna Flow rock crawler cat back and love the sound of that. not the same as the JT but comparable
Best part was the end! She isn’t easily dooped haha
Add 2 super 40 flowmaster with and H pipe
Good luck on the move!!! As always awesome video!!!
Haha why did you speed up the part where she said "I wasn't going to help I would've just supervised"? 😂
6:43 sounds good !
That was a fun one!! Keep it up!!
These videos make me want to do so much to my JKU
ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO 👍 👍
Anyone else not surprised by the lack of performance increase? By far the most bang for the buck is a good CAI and cat back.
Eh. The downpipes and y pipes are a lot more noticeable in the lower end than the intake and muffler was. Just no gains at the upper end.
@@JKGearandGadgets Ben I love the channel but If I spent $1500+ and a long afternoon to install I'd probably say I noticed something too (kinda like how a newly washed car drives faster). Cassie said there was something different initially because of the different exhaust note. AFE's dyno curve is done with the stock JK cat back and they are getting +10HP at 4800rpm. You're gonna get that with a good CAI and cat back. If you look at their dyno curve you are getting maybe +2 HP and +2fp torque at 3000rpm and there is no way you can feel that at the pedal. And to everyone suggesting an ECU flash (which will cost another $300), you'll probably feel nothing unless you are WOT and who cares about that when your crawling. Keep up the great content!
eeassa check out the dyno curve on their downpipes
@@JKGearandGadgets Yea that's the curve I'm referencing above.
You got to get that window fixed! lol yes, I know you got it fixed but I've seen it in several videos.
I liked that video
I'm now going to hang my soft shackles on the sport bar... great idea for easy access when mall crawling
I thought they were grab handles?? 🤯
It's not nice to fool with mama bear, she can come back and bite you. You 2 are a hoot.
Sounds amazing guys . I have the Banks exhaust on my TJ ( 4.0 ) and I love it . My next move for the exhaust is high flow cats . I have to agree with you on the Fox shocks , I have them on my TJ and it kinda jostles you around . Until next time take care .
I think Cassie is looking to do a new exhaust soon. How does the banks sound? Loud or mild?
@@JKGearandGadgets Its mild . Not loud at all. I think your Gladiator is louder for sure. Just has a mild tone .
Awesome video!
So no comment on the cracked windshield? How that happen.
U hve a good base line time range 0-60 w/n two th of a sec or so basically margin of error. Add 600 ppl bls or so& u can use that going forward from # & perforance test u hve already done 3 tenth of a sec shaved 0-60 + how much when 600lbs added on. I would hve added a NO exhaust illegal mod no wt test to make sure control u can see a gain, sanity test. Old ,vs, no, vs new exhaust, all carrying u & 3 ppl.
Recently bought a JK. Super fun, but I have come to understand the meaning behind the saying "Just Empty Every Pocket"
My one recommendation. Take it slow and enjoy every minute! Hit the trails, have some fun, install stuff yourself, and don’t stop learning!
@@JKGearandGadgets Couldn't agree more! Unfortunately, i bought this thing for $10k, and have already put about $6.5k into it haha, and luckily it did come with a 4 inch lift. So far just bumper, lights, gas cap, soft top, wheels, tires, touchscreen/speakers etc. It is so damn addicting, but I smile every time i drive her. Thank you for reviewing all of these awesome products! I am on a student budget, so it has been mostly Amazon upgrades for me, so who knows the life expectancies, but it has been so much fun installing things with my Dad who has been gracious enough to open his home garage to me for these add-ons. It is an 07 JK, so when you order a bumper that says it is only 8 bolts, we were thinking 30 minutes- not 3 days, a blow torch, and three trips to Home Depot... but that almost makes the end result more satisfying. Can't wait to watch more videos. ✌🏻
Nice video! Now fix the windshield already! 🤦🏼♂️😂
Seriously, the glass people come to ur house...🤦
Soon! I’m waiting for aftermarket (gorilla glass or something else) to hit the market.
No point in paying $600+ for another crappy windshield that will break again.
JK Gear and Gadgets good point! In Massachusetts windshields are covered on insurance and replaced for free, not sure I’d want to spend the cash on that either
You change the air filter? Also remapping it should help.
Off topic, but did you move away from teespring.com for your merch? Just showing a decal on there now?
Nice. Like the shocks I’ve been looking into upgrading mine have you ever tried the Rancho 9000 adj. shocks just curious to how they compare to falcons.
Nice job"packing,"Ben.lol.......
I may have missed the video but where’s you get that dash mount that holds your phone?
Thank you Ben. Moving is a pain in the A$@... good luck!
Hell yes she’ll notice she’s a mother & a wife !!
Where are you guys moving? I hate to lose good Virginian’s!
Edward Stone looked like Mexico
Will you do a review on the Route 66 Mods Jeep windshield hinge screw set I’ve seen two videos on RUclips but want to know your opinion on them!
I talked about them some in the video I did about lightbars. I installed them on my JK, they are amazing! Highly recommend
hey brother I know you are super busy with the move do an easy Q&A video with no editing let us know where you moved we miss you guys
Saludos desde Chile amigos..
I Love it 😻 when she drives
I have the Clayton 3.5” lift as well. Did you use the Falcon 3.5-4.5 as mentioned in the video? Or the Falcon 2-3 that is linked in the description?
They must have updated the link or something! I used the 3.5-4.5
Great Video. How is the durability on the falcon shocks how often do they need a rebuild? Why not go with king shocks or icon?
Hi, did you find the setting (both shaft and click adj) on the Falcon SP2 3.3's that best suited your daily driving style without being too harsh? Curious if you felt like these paired better or worse than the Fox 2.0's with the Clayton Springs? Thanks!
She's good!
What do you think about the new gladiator that’s about to come with the new engine from diesel ? Nobody better than you that could answer this question
Oh yeah she’s driving
Oh yeah fun jeeps
Great video, good luck during your move...
Thank you!
Sounds good... Best wishes on the move
Love all your toys and great videos...
So what are you going to do with those old Fox shocks? Would they fit on a 2011 JKU? Dude your wife is the greatest! I wish mine was in to the Jeeps like yours. Good luck with your move!
They won’t sadly. Right now, they are packed up with all of our other stuff to move lol
Two mods Im seriously considering. I tow at 4000lb travel trailer, would you say the Falcons would help with body roll while towing? I find the Fox Rubicon shocks a little on the soft side. Any updates on the downpipe/y pipe? Thanks
Sounds great, so how much better will the power be off-road? Like she said, she could feel the power in the low end! Are you going to install an iDrive?
I think it will be an improvement. The low end will be nice on the trails. Hoping to get out and hit the trails soon!
Great video. Cool upgrades.
😎🇺🇸
Do you think the 3.3 shocks will work with keep OEM stock springs?
PaloDuro Canyon up north of where your going is nice.
always great vid man. any recommandation for new tie rod and drag link END?? most reliable and beefy brand? Im currently workin on a jku stock 2011. TY
I always suggest the 7slot customs aluminum setups!
Is the front end of your gladiator higher? Or is it just your camera that makes it look like that?
I think it’s just the camera angle or driveway angle
Good stuff
Have you tried any windshield protection to prevent cracking?