I DITCHED Pro Tools for Studio One BUT was it a MASSIVE mistake!? (1 year on)
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- I DITCHED Avid Pro Tools for presonus Studio One BUT was it the right decision?? (1 year on)
My name is Paul Third and I am a Scottish youtuber / audio engineer / mixing engineer / audio geek. I mostly cover audio engineering related content ranging from audio plugin shootouts / plugin comparisons (acustica audio plugins, universal audio etc etc) to actual analog vs digital / gear vs plugins plugin tests via access analog and mix analog. I even include ddmf plugindoctor tutorials in my plugin reviews so you can be your very own plugin tester and experiment and understand whats actually going on under the hood. I also discuss digital music distribution from time to time and like to give my viewpoint on online music distributors such as onerpm and distrokid.
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0:00 Why I left pro tools in the first place
1:38 Exporting tracks and stems
2:36 using hardware inserts in pro tools vs studio one
3:17 why is adjusting hardware delay compensation in pro tools such a hassle!?
5:01 plugin macro and splitter tool
6:26 amazing integration with faderport 16
7:27 listen bus
8:32 dolby atmos in studio one .. Finally
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What's the favourite feature of your daw? 🤓
Cakewalk has a good native step sequencer.
Cubase inbuilt plug-ins including Vari-audio is saving me a lot of cash
Tracktion Waveform has the best midi pattern generator and chord generator that I have ever used. Really good fun and can build stuff fast.
Reaper thinks I have all the time in the world to waste, so cool. 2nd only to VCV Rack. OMG, the hours I spend patching modules.
For production, I'm in Ableton Live. Exporting stems is very simple there too, but my favorite feature is that you can create "favorites" for your plugins in an awesome way. I got 6 "folders": Tape, Sat & Dist; Comp & Gate; Instruments; Sounddesign; Reverb & Delay; Utility and I have only the best plugins neatly sorted in there. This may not sound like a lot, but it's great for workflow.
But Ableton is a beast for plenty of other reasons too. Automation is a breeze (in every way), you can create and save all kinds of devices and plugin chains and ready them up with macro knobs. For example, I've got a "Wet-Dry" device which I can load any plugin (or multiple ones) - thus I have a Mixknob for anything. A Mid-Side Splitter, a "transition helper" full of effects that are all assigned macros. So for instance, if I enable the highpass and the reverb I can control the highpass and the wetness of the reverb with one knob (and other things on other knobs).
Using swing, routing, stretching, chopping, screwing.. it can all be done very, very easily. I'm still in Pro Tools for mixing and mastering - but only because I like the change of scenery to "reset" my mind and ears once production stage is over. I can honestly say I don't like Pro Tools - but it IS an industry standard and that helps in terms of sharing sessions.
Studio One is no mistake, it is light years beyond Protools. Everything is easy, and the MixFx engine is another thing that puts Studio One above PT. I have gone back and forth using it as a mixing DAW, but it is definitely a "tracking" DAW. But it is also a great mixing DAW as well. I tend to like Harrison Mixbus 32C for my mixing needs, "not because it is supposed to sound (analog)", but for the workflow. I mixed 9 songs in one in day in Harrison Mixbus, and the mixes turned out amazing. That workflow is top notch to me, but Studio One for the same reason makes tracking a breeze with Softube Tape as a MixFx. Near zero latency, and arguably the most realistic sounding tape emulation I have ever used. Studio One + Harrison is a win for me, and protools can go to hell.
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you cannot compare the two. Studio one is very light duty. It's for quick and dirty pre-production. And in that department it's amazing.
Pro tools is for professional audio recording, perfecting the producing, mixing and mastering. You use it for being able to trust it with delay compensating everything across your session as reliably and as solidly as a tank.
Prove that studio one isn't as good at delay compensation compared to protools. How can studio one be light duty when it offers more features than pro tools 🙈
Even atmos is easier and better implemented in studio one compared to pro tools.
Saying that protools is more professional is the biggest crock of shit that keeps getting thrown about
Emrah Celik is one of the biggest mixing and mastering engineers in Turkey, award winning every year.
Studio one for years
Luca Pretolesi, one of the biggest Italian engineers ever
Studio one
Matty Harris, a well known LA mixer even just moved back to studio one a few month ago from protools.
Fuck I'm even away to be part in an amazon documentary covering a full album project and we are all on studio one.
Why? ... Cause protools is a dinosaur daw that's just slows you down.
Entitled to your opinion but a daw is a daw. It's only as professional as the engineer using it. All this BS about daws being "more professional" is ridiculous.
DAW is about workflow and what allows you to get your project finished in the quickest and easiest manner.
If it's protools, great. If it's studio one, great. If it's logic, great. If it's ableton.. You get the jist
Studio One ended up being where I am the most comfortable. No other DAW aligns with my brain this well.
I'm the same 🤓
Studio One has been my main DAW for 7 years now I believe. For me it hits a sweet spot when it comes to doing a multitude of tasks. Although I prefer Logic for song writing, Studio one will do it just as well and with recent updates it has become a lot better for it. For scoring with virtual instruments it's one of the best as it has good notation features as well as well working articulation switching and automation. For mixing it is simply one of the best in my opinion, it's so quick and flexible to work with. Comping and editing is probably its weakest point in my opinion, but it will do the job adequately there as well.
I have and have used a lot of DAWs but Studio One is where I go first hand. I rarely feel that another DAW will enable me to do it better. And I trust that it can take me all the way from song sketching to mastering. I sometimes use Logic for song writing, and sometimes LUNA for mixing and its awesome time stretching algorithm. But I could do well without them.
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The coolest thing about Studio One is the drag and drop. You can start working right away without ever having to learn the DAW.
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Pro Tools is only the industry standard because it was basically the only digital option back in the 90's, so it's what studios started to use. Then because studios used it, everyone else started using it and continued to use it despite the emergence of better DAWs. Congratulations on making the switch, Paul. Some folks can't handle the idea of switching despite the long-term gains to be had. BTW, I'm also a Studio One user and I was basically nodding my head all the way through this video. Listen Bus FTW! 🥳❤👍
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I ditched Pro Tools a good 2 decades ago. I had clients refuse to record at my studio because I had switched to Nuendo (posh Cubase) but it was perfect because those kind of snobs were exactly the kind of client I didn't want to work with!
I think unless you are in like LA or somewhere very industry based where they all work with each other, doesn't matter which DAW you use.
I find the compatible thing about pro tools funny cause its not the DAW that's compatible, it's the people using it
@@PaulThird yup, as Seth Godin once said
"the first guy with a fax machine, what did they do with it? "
I switched to Nuendo as well, and I am very satisfied, Nuendo is so great, and now nuendo 13 is coming out in a few days, I think
@@BayanChacra yeah i heard,
I turned fully professional in 2008 and speed of workflow became paramount in my career, so I actually switched to fully Ableton around 2011. All daws are great these days though (except pro tools imo haha)
Nice one Paul - I love your cut-backs (or whatever they're called) - some of the funniest videos on YT.
I'm glad cause its been getting really boring making videos recently. Felt I've lost a bit of me in them
@@PaulThird The thing that drew me to your videos in the first place was your comedy. Don't lose it - whatever the subject at hand. Ok, geez?
Avid's utter disregard for support is what's pushing me away the most. I've had a few technical issues over the past couple years and both times they ignored the ticket, one time it was for weeks. The only way I got them to reply was to publicly @ them on Twitter with my ticket number.
Yeah if you don't have good support then you can't call yourself an industry standard
Man, well worth watching just for the comedy characters! Great stuff Paul, keep 'em coming...
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6 year Studio One user here. Recently I jumped ship for Bitwig which imo is the most cutting edge daw for electronic music production. Really brilliant. But for core mixing/mastering functions, S1 still remains my fav (and yeah I’ve tried MANY - logic, cubase, etc etc)
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@@PaulThird moving forward Paul, my biggest concern with S1 is political. As I’m sure you know they’re now owned by Fender and the CEO made some statement to the effect that he wants S1 to be so easy to use it requires a 1 page manual. Lol, yup. So I’m wondering if in his pursue to turn the DAW into the next Garage Band our glory days are behind us (?)
Remains to be seen, of course…
I've spoken to some of the guys near the top and there's no way that S1 can be dumbed down like that. Especially when you see what they've done with atmos. S1 has a reputation to withhold
@@PaulThird hope you’re right.
@@PaulThird I mean, Moog, Waves and others had a legacy and reputation to withhold as well. We live in a time of ugly capitalist politics in the production world. Just saying… 🤷🏼♂️
I love Studio one. I’ve tried most of the DAW. studio one just makes sense to me. Do you know each Daw with the exact same plugin will sounds completely different from each other?
Tbh that should be pretty much impossible as theres been a ton of tests done and the differences between daws are under -100dbfs. Inaudible differences
I love these vids (and the funny snippets) ...
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Question. I looked at studio one a while back as i wanted to switch from protoos and it's subscription model. There were a few things i liked about studio one but i could not find its equivalent tool to the protools ✏️ pencil that i use in for direct wave form editing. The tool in protools allows me to zoom in and draw in corrective strokes. Hiw do i do this in studio one to waveforms? I searched to no avail so far. I had given up and stuck with the simplicity of my prorools set up. Im sure i am just blind.
I jumped on the S1 train since it was released, been a happy camper ever since. First things that attracted me was the UI, which was a bit different than the others. Then, how easy Studio One was to start using, as a new user; so intuitive and well-designed! Feature-wise S1 had everything I needed then, and I feel it has grown with me - or I've tried growing with S1 through each update. Luv it!
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Switched from PT and Logic to S1 V2 just before V3 came out and haven't looked back. Like you, i was worried i would have to get a PT subscription, but S1 Atmos support came in just in time. The thing that won me over back then was how quickly i knew what i was doing and how everything just made sense.
I’m currently in the process of ditching pro tools as well for Studio One. I can’t wait to get it all going. Just got rid of all my avid gear so I’m pumped now.
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Cracking me up!
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Good 4 U I love Studio One myself. The plugin that allows you to patch in hardware and automatically eliminate latency is so easy.
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I bought studio one a few days ago. Have reaper, great and feels like home but bare boned. FL, love the piano roll and sounds but making verse and chorus still doing my head in. Studio one arranger and chord tracks wonderful for composing.
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Interesting to get this input from you. I just a few days ago decided to ditch Studio One (pro user since V1) and go with Reaper. Too much stuff that is a hassle or can be buggy in Studio One and repeatedly causes trouble and time wasted mid-production. Anyway - whatever works for each one of us :)
Cheers.
Kind of problems? Only issues I get in sessions is with my apollo x6 but thats seperate from studio one.
@@PaulThird To be fair there are people reporting all sorts of bugs. But as with many other softwares, not everyone will discover them, because that bug is in regard to something they don't use, so it isn't always necessarily a bug that is specific to that users system, but simply something that people don't experience because they don't use the software in the same way.
I did the same as you and switched from studio one to reaper, for the same reasons.
I switched to Reaper 5 years ago, and I have never experienced daw crushing on me since then. I think it's a W.
@@PaulThirdCan I ask what issue are you having? Is it a faulty interface, software, or a combination of softwares that don’t play well together? Love your videos!
I have Studio One+. It's my goto for recording and editing. Editing is great, the way I can move stuff around and copy/paste good bits over crap bits. I love that. I used to use Mixbus for mixing, but I haven't felt the need for about a year now, although I did like the sound of Mixbus, I would always use S1 for mastering.
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Good video and the end is hilarous!!! 😂🤣
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I had a short stint with S1 on version 4 when it came out, I remember really enjoying it, but I signed up for an audio engineering course that was strictly PT so I ditched it. When the year long edu license was expiring I made the switch to Reaper and not been looking back.
One thing I remember about S1 is not supporting vst version 2 which was really bumming me out at the time. There are a few nice old plugins out there which I intend to run as they are hard to replace to this day.
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Awesom video!!!!
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Interesting never been into any daw other than Cubase & Nuendo :) But looks interesting and some great points about studio one :) Which cubase has some but not all :) Would love to hear how your dolby Atmos flow goes ... You really do make your videos fun to watch :)
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Same here. I love my studio one. Is it the best? I don't know... but it's practical, good, and sufficient
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What Studio One version do I need to use my plugins it's very difficult or maybe it's the Prime version. I'm a Pro Tools user and need to know why the plugins are not automatically added
Cause protools uses AAX and other. daws use VST. If you've only got AAX versions installed then they won't show in studio one
It is impossible to be a professional if your DAW doesn't have PRO in the name. That's just science. 😆
That'll explain studio one 6 PROfessional then 😂
@@PaulThird Yes, yes, that certainly checks out. Typically I use the youtuber's DAW Reaper, but I still have Samplitude PRO for when I need that professional touch. 😂
Welcome to the family
Thought I've been in the family for over a year 😢😅😅🤣
I love it. I went from using mixcraft for years, but i mostly recorded ideas for fun or to bring to the band. Once i started wanting to learn to mix, and got nice plugins/vsts I had to switch cause it simply couldnt handle it. So i made a big jump, and its super user friendly. I enjoy writing in Ableton (which i recently got as well) especially for ideas, and then dragging the tracks into Studio one to actually write/finish the song, and do the mixing/mastering.
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You kill me man. Esp your protools dude meme 🤣. Yeah- and been demoing Studio One. It's pretty nice. I love the track list.
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I'm in the same boat as you Paul. I went to school for PT, started on 5.3.1 and went up to 10.9.10. I still use my v10 license to import PT sessions and export them to mix in S1. When they dumped the RTAS support in v11 is what initially made me move to another DAW. Imagine updating your console and now all your outboard gear doesn't work? I understand the programming case to be made, but it always seemed down and dirty the way AVID handled it. Also, not using the VST3 plugin format seems like a misstep.
The other main reason I stuck with S1 was that they were constantly adding and improving features. And they're not a Pain to use! See Beat Detective, or as it's known to it's users, Beat Defective. The built-in time alignment in S1 is a breeze to use! You mentioned stems export, so convenient. Sometimes, I feel like AVID just needs to wake up and look at their peers, they leave so much meat on the table, it's no wonder other DAWs are more popular. I use S1 primarily for tracking, mixing and mastering, but every time I need to learn a new feature to use, it's easy , straightforward and VERY usable! I actually get excited about learning the new features in S1 because they work so well. Just using the Browse window on the right-hand side is a game changer. The drag-and-drop nature of S1 cannot be beat!
Once I got the Faderport16, setup my macros and favorite plugins to be used on the control surface, I'm FLYING when I'm doing sessions. Clients watching will comment on how fast I'm working. You know what isn't fast, ProFools. Maybe if you use the trackball and get fast, my peer in post-production is warp speed using PT. I don't begrudge anyone for using whatever DAW, especially having to maintain a sandbox across studios and workplaces. But for me, an independent engineer, only using hardware while tracking, mixing in the box, and exporting in non-real-time, S1 takes the cake!
Love your channel and humor Paul! Keep up the great work and great attitude! Your practical advice and take on core studio/engineering topics is what keeps me coming back! If you want to come visit Colorado, I'll let you sleep under the mixing desk!
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Love the cockney protools breakdown 😂
Has to be done 😂
Reaper for me, providing you are happy to stick with it as you learn how to set it all up, its will basically be your bespoke DAW. I think it covers pretty much all the things you have listed as far as I know..
It's just not for me. I want a hybrid where its setup practically how I want it but still gives me the customisation to be able to get it exactly how I want it. Full customisation isn't for me
@PaulThird if you haven't already, you should do a video or series on setting Studio One to look, work and feel like Pro Tools (hotkeys are easy but the default solo behavior, default play head behavior, window layout etc are all jarring coming from PT).
I don't want studio one to look, work and feel like protools, that's the whole point of switching
@@PaulThird that would be what we call, friction. The lower the friction, the more the adoption. There are benefits to professional Pro Tools users making a daily living in PT to have the knowledge readily available to make a better DAW faster to get up and running for them. No one making a living in PT wants to waste time learning new hotkeys, how busses work different, why the tracks don’t line up with the console, etc. Like me, they see that and go, “nope. I’ll stick with the industry standard that’s paying my bills cause I need to pay bills and no one is paying me to slow down to learn a new DAW”
oh,.. this was great !
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I'm considering ditching Logic, their updates are geared towards competing with Ableton and not fixing long-standing problems/limitations. I'd consider Studio One.
Come to the dark side my boy... You already have me and Mike haha
Doooooo iiiiiiiiiitttttt. Lol
I agree, Studio one is also my DAW of Choice. IN fact, I upgraded to 6.5 pro this year from 5.0 Artist. I also used protools and jumped ship as well.
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I am a long time Pro tools user, since the 90’s. I tried Studio One and really like some of its features- I also tried Cubase and Logic. I ended up using more Logic for midi, mainly because of it amazing tempo mapping from a free performance feature and the easiness of using midi. But I can’t give up Pro Tools for mixing…
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just downloaded it an hour ago and im loving it. i make sample based beats and its soo fast to sample here.
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Studio One is awesome! I tried Pro Tools for a while when Cakewalk went to the wall and it was terrible. UX made apparently without any consideration of the user workflow and the obtuse technical error messages did it for me. Never looked back with Studio One and a Faderport 8 on my Mac. Gregor Beyrle from PreSonus said in one of his videos that any other DAW you have to pay for Atmos, so well done them! I'm in the same boat as you when I used to put Sonarworks on the main bus, pretty annoying till I started using the Listen bus!
I was genuinely still bypassing all my listen bus inserts when exporting for the first few months 😅🤣
@@PaulThird :D When you do an export though, it still (incorrectly) tells you that Sonarworks wasn't bypassed during export when it's on the listen bus even though you can see it bypasses all the listen bus plugins during export.
MAN! I LOVE YOU and your SHIT for attitude!!! I find myself seeming to be using Studio One PRO now after using CUBASE for more than 20 years! I used the $$$'s would have spent on upgrading Cubase Pro 11.x to v.12 with all the midi remote updates, I spent that money to buy Studio One PRO instead. Interesting to me that I can leave Studio One running for DAYS ON END...It has not crashed yet. All the youtube videos made the midi remote updates look SOOO EASY , but as I looked deeper into it I began to see that it was all staying on a HAPPY PATH of use cases that'r not likely to work with my Nektar's. You see I have been fooled before... and learnt the need to read the finer prints.
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Brilliant video! 😂
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I'm a Cubase user and I use a Presonux StudioLive series 3 mixer as my interface. It came with an entry level version of Studio One. I've looked at it and watch some videos but I'm really not sure that it's for me. Plus Since I've been using Cubase when it was at version 7 and now I'm running 12; about to upgrade to 13: I've spent a lot of money on it. I don't see myself switching any time soon. But I"m glad it works for you.
If it ain't broke dont fix it 🤓
FOLDER BUSES FTW!!! 🙌🏼
Promise me that one day you will do a whole segment with your funny voice, and do the comments with your normal voice. I would love that. It’s easy to tell when you’re in a good mood, isn’t it have a wonderful day.
This was actually me in a "I don't give a fuck and want to wind people up" mood haha 😅 I'm pretty stressed 24/7 these days
@@PaulThird I wish you peace,sir. I admire your whole operation, I admire you as a man who knows himself and is happy to share what’s really true. You bring a lot of good energy to my life, and I hope this helps maybe a little bit. I look up to you. Have a great fucking day, you deserve it!
What makes me feel in love with studio one is the fat channel and its emulations and the mix engine with console emulations. Regarda
Mix console uses too much cpu for me but I do like the fat channel. Options 🤓
@@PaulThird yeap, but if you activate plugin nap it gets cpu friendly
Reaper has a “listen bus” btw!
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Where is the follow-up video? I need to know
why it was a mistake according to you?
This is the follow up video
As a long time Pro Tools user that switched to Cubase a year ago I share all your thoughts on PT. Studio One looks great. Incase anyone is interested, Cubase also has all the features you've mentioned here (apart from the multi-band split feature which looks great). The really big feature PT is missing is proper plugin menu management. I assume Studio One has it, Cubase certainly does and so does Logic and Reaper. This one feature saves me hours of time and frustration. Until you've used a DAW with proper plugin management (which trust me PT does not have compared to the other DAWs) you don't know how much time your are wasting and frustration you could avoid navigating huge plugin lists.
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How do you set up a monitor bus in Cubase like the one mentioned in this video? Tried to find it on Steinberg's website but couldn't.
It's called the Control Room in Cubase. You can do so many thing with this. Your room calibration won't be printed, you can set up sub mixes for headphones and second set of monitors (with their own calibration and levels. And there's a lot more@@hisroyalsucculence
Easy! Use the "Control room"-feature inside Cubase PRO. There you can setup both talkback, Cue Mixes, individual headphone mixes and setup multi hardware Monitor speaker system. You can also monitor and control everything inside Cubase PRO/Nuendo. You can setup individual key-commands to select and control everything in "Control Room". You can also use hardware Control Surface like example SSL UF8 to control everting as well. 1. Start with setup so your physical OUTPUT inside Cubase are set to "None". 2. Then active the "Control Room" -feature inside Cubase. Check the help videos! Hope it helps!@@hisroyalsucculence
Thanks! @@facelessproduction7059
Love that monitoring bus. Might have to switch from Cubase...
Somebody commented that cubase has something just like it 🤔
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Your hilarious bro!😆
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Thanks, Paul, for a good laugh on a cold Saturday. Studio One - useability first. Reaper - flexibility first. Pro Tools - corporate profit first. FL - Will you be my mommy?
Will you be my mommy 🤣
Pro Tools - (in the work environment I’m in) compatibility first. I can move around studios with no problems.
That's the upside of dolby atmos. Printed tracks & stems. Takes away a lot of the daw compatibility issues
I though that a potential move for Avid to keep protools relevant was to create a file format, that was cross daw compatible, with some limited features in terms of handling fader automation, and basic things like that, to form the link between different DAWs, and of course best integrated when used with protools. But now studioone and bitwig both has support for dawproject, and that goes far beyond, so I don't see how Avid would be able to sell such a file format to daw makers, if they could instead support dawproject.
I do wish that daw makers would start making their plugins available as 3rd party vst/au plugins in other daws, the licensing handled by having a license to the daw that they came from. Meaning that anyone that wants access to their plugin from their previous daw, will have to keep a license. But of course the main point would be, to be able to open one's favorite tool from one daw in another, either for project compatibility, or just simply because one prefer it over other options out there (something that was true even before dawproject).
I really like studio one, but it does miss some tools from ableton. And with even avid having a cliplauncher (iOS app), it is clear how much of an omission that in specific is. If I was designing a clip launching interface for a daw, though, I would add an clip arranger, that puts all the clips on a timeline, but a separate for the clips to maintain the separate linear workflow for traditional use, and a linear workflow for the clips specific. With markers for the clip in the clip arranger (and an efficiency method of exporting active clips to pool-tracks or put them at the end of the timline or something). Also chord track feature that studio one has, as that make so much sense for jams and sketches. If I would jam in to a daw, I would want to be able to free myself from fixed bars of clips (so I don't get various of versions either over-dubbed or recorded in to new clips where the cut-off might not align with the phrase), and also have helpful tools to reshape the recordings, and be able to mark specific regions to put them in to the clips, no matter how they aligned in time with bars. A way to be able to test different keys, to re-record smaller parts. If I however did the jam in a clip view, I would still know that behind the scenes it was handled in an arranger view, in a linear fashion for later edits.
I would also find clever ways to use a clip launcher hardware for jumping on the timeline, and jumping between takes for comping, with support of sending midi cc to handle the time resolution that the pads represent, so that the pads of the grid controller would be integrated in a linear workflow for more than just various midi triggers, where many might prefer a different midi controller.
Not that you've put a lot of thought into all this eh 😂
@@PaulThird I have, like I think you also do at times of various of topics... Autism....
In regards to atmos, I have been a fan of surround for a long time... I think my autism plays a part there, where the audio coming from different directions, helps me stay engaged, and to some extent suppress the wandering of thoughts.
I know DAW is always a personal choice and for me it's about workflow speed. No disrespect to whatever people choose, great music has been made on everything. Right down to a 4 track tape recorder!
I was self taught starting with Reason in 2001 before moving to Cubase 3 shortly after.
Went to SAE in 2006 and gained teaching certificates in Logic and Ableton and degree in Engineeting.
I picked up ProTools from working in different studios.
I can't stand it. My heart sinks going into ProTools studios. It's slow, bloated, but somehow underpowered, clunky, crashes non stop. I can use it, but doesn't mean I want to touch it.
Studio One was made by a team of ex-cubase programmers so it's very similar but I wouldn't say it's any better or worse than Cubase.. which is still my favourite DAW. I've customised it, have tons of templates, macros and I love the workflow and the inbuilt stock tools now (especially since 13) are unbeatable. A lot of new old school analogue emulations. You can make anything in it with a stock install.
The metering is second to none as well. So many options. The mixer is fabulous.
Tbh as long as its not protools I'm alright 😂
I feel like you’d love cubase even more than studio one, almost all the features and mentioned are in cubase (and more mature versions such as the batch exporter, external FX as well as key commands (also macros are built in and customisable))
Tried it years ago and I just didn't like the workflow. Wasn't for me
The difference is that s1 does a better job at specifically stealing pro tools users, I think
@PaulThird I'd recommend giving it another go, the workflow has progressed quite a lot since the previous versions, even could make it into a series of trying different daws and comparing them to each other to provide a comprehensive guide to choosing what DAW to use?
Nah. Wasted time man. I've got studio one working exactly how I want it. If it's not broken, don't fix it
@@PaulThird fair enough.
Again, fanfuckingtastic presentation, your character is getting genuinely enjoyable. Watch him. He might end up doing the main presentation and then have you break in every now and then to break things up!
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Please, if you have any communication with the people at Presonus, tell them to add the export queue function. The amount of time wasted exporting different versions when it would be so simple to fix with a simple modification.
They'll probably watch it so maybe
You can do that yourself in the PreSonus forums. They're very responsive. One of the few companies that listen to their users.
The two things I'm missing the most in Studio One are export queue and trim automation. Beyond this, which I hope will eventually be incorporated, studio one is by far the best DAW I have ever used.@@PaulThird
I left pro tools after 14 yrs switched to Cubase. Loving cubase. You should give it a try
Did and it wasn't for me
All due respect but your question is nonsensical. You CHOSE Studio One. The best DAW on the market. There is no mistake to be made. Have a great day!
PS: I ditched PT seven years ago. ✌🏾
As soon as I read.. "with all due respect" I was like.. Here we fucking go.. Glad I read the rest of it 😂
But you’ve been able to export tracks/stems from Pro Tools for ages..? You just select the tracks or Auxes you want to bounce, right click and select ‘Bounce’. It bounces with the plugins and names all the files. You don’t need to commit. You can also choose do bounce tracks/stems with or without volume and pan. Is this a secret feature nobody knows about??!? You can also (obviously) export multiple busses simultaneously from the expanded Bounce dialog. I also use Ableton and bouncing in PT is much easier and much more powerful once you figure it out. So I’m a bit confused…
Studio one is easier
..try cubase 13, omg its amazing...and rock solid, no crashes for 5 days on mac😀...regards
Nah not for me
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6:23 welcome to the hell that is home recording, smae here, an electrical heater in a little log cabin in the garden - brrrrrrrrrr
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studio one is the best for optimisation and so many intelligent features.
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PT is a dinosaur. Grossly CPU heavy and ancient to use. Switched to Reaper years ago and you'd have to pay me six digits to back.
Console style workflow :)
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Ha ha funny as fk and so tru. I use Ableton but thinking about changing to bitwig
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lmmmfaooooooooooooo #GAmechanger love the videos , cheers
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Really love my Faderport 16 and Studio One. The integration is brilliant. I would never consider an MCU based controller after working with this. I use the Macro feature to map a plugins Input and inverse the Output so that when pushing the input volume up the output goes down. No need for auto gain
I've only scratched the surface and now you are giving me more ideas 😅 haha
You are a funny man!
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What I despise above all else is any piece of software that's designed to "upsell" me to a higher tier... over... and over... and over again. I absolutely loathe Adobe doing it and ditched everything they produce because of it. And every company that emulates them in pimping their wares I ditch as well. If somethings good you don't have to grovel or beat everyone over the head about each "update" or version "upgrade". The tools should speak for themselves. In the end whatever you use to create whatever you're trying to create is secondary if not meaningless to the end result. Favorite feature you ask? Simple. That it works and gets out of the way.
The upgrade thing seems to be their way of remaining current for marketing
Atmos is a half-baked tech imo since sound isn't allowed to come from the bottom.
What do you mean come from the bottom
@@PaulThird I mean the bottom-half of the audio sphere. From the floor.
You cannot render for instance tap dancing from the 1st person POV or a submarine passing under a diver. That's why it's call call Atmos : because the atmophere is on top of us. It's not true spatial audio yet.
Reaper for me, F*ck the Standards 🤣😂🤣 BTW Great transitions!
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Industry standard means nothing when 99.9% of all music being released is outside or record labels and made in home studios, there are a few hundred mainstream industry acts the other 25 million people making music on spotify are independent artists.
Yes. Next question. Lol...
Nah Studio One is actually amazing, I went back to PT coz there were some bugs and a few things about the editing workflow I didn't like... mainly tho it was the support team.
Of the 20 something tickets I opened over 2 months, one was acknowledged as a bug, one other I was invited to share my session file, the rest were just dismissed and closed.
I even cancelled my sub and was charged. The person made it out like they were doing me a favour by refunding me 😂 shockingly shit service doesn't begin to cover it... lets not even get into it with their fb groups.
You're gonna hate them if you don't already, I promise.
Tbh it looks like an issue with many DAW's. I had another viewer say the same but for pro tools customer service
And every fb group is the same. Thats why I left them all years ago haha
You forgot to mention the price difference ;)
I couldn't even tell you what it is haha 😅
and thats how "the industry standard " became a meme
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I think you’re losing your mind mate…I LIKE IT! 👻 STUDIO ONE ROCKS!!! 🙌🏽❤️🙌🏽
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I’m always super surprised when people recommend studio one. In my experience it’s been the worst software I’ve used for mixing/recording. It’s super unstable. I’ve lost more projects to crashing with studio one that I have on all other daws combined and it isn’t even close. I’ve used Cubase, fruity loops, ableton, studio one, and now logic. In my opinion Logic is king. You just can’t beat the stability. It just works. Every. Single. Time. No drivers or asio bullshit or any of that junk. I wanna create. Not fiddle with settings and driver downloads every time there’s an update. Plus the user interface rocks and the logic drummer is AMAZING.
Isn't it wierd that I and others don't have those issues though 🤷♂️
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Remember to check out my audio podcast with Ed Thorne to keep up to date with my full time mixing journey
And Im moving from Logic to Protools to a new job..
Whats the new job
4:50 you sound like streaky lol but I know you love him so your not dissing him but I watch streaky too much to not think your sounding like him 😂
As soon as we had him on the podcast I was genuinely mid way through like.. Fuck.. that video I did sounds a lot like him 🤣
Streakys a logic man anyway
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Nope. It is a massive improvement ;)
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I actually teach PT in college. Pffft. I USE Logic. Mac rules!
Nah.. fuck apple 😂😂
I was just cracking up, man. I'm not a pro-tools user, Cubase me, and for a long time, I've dismissed the idea of Protools being an industry standard, because that means little in this day and age. There used to basically be Pro-tools, Cubase and Logic, and back then Pro-tools was probably the industry standard, and effin expensive. And back then, there weren't many options for decent digital audio recorcording. Now there are dozens, and since many (including pro's) use other things, that's it. The only benefit I can see is that when people throw around tracks as projects, they can be called up quickly and easily between like DAWs. But they that's true of any DAW. So, ignore the trolls, make music, mix and express regardless, and if you can make me laugh with your midly mocking asides, we're onto a winner. Just saying
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The Atmos in Studio One is dead easy!
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😂😂😂 amazing.
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i had the problem with studio one i was making hardcore kicks so very distorted kickdrums and every bounce/record i make was not the same, there are plop and click sound in it out of the blue, i send presonus many samples and examples whats the problem they dont help me out,
i test at that time just for fun ableton and the first kick i bouce/record was the same with no plops and click sounds in it,
for me presonus is a very bad company
i told them that i have deadlines and work for label i send the contract and some releases i make so they see i am not talking bullshit but they dont care they just want making money on there stupid studio one releases with many bugs and problems
what a mess!!
Ok
Logic is taking over the game
No logic in that whatsoever 😜 haha
hahahah! come on... there's always logic in logic@@PaulThird
In what way? It is Mac only, so it can never be an industry standard. I've seen a lot of studio that do still work in protools, but that they have mixed workflow with another daw as their main tool for creation, and among those, sure Logic is one of those people have chosen to use to complement protools, but I see a lot of Ableton, a lot of Studio One, and a lot of Cubase. But perhaps you as an logic user, has made it so that your algorithm makes it so that you mostly get Logic videos, and think it is more dominant than it it? I do feel that studio one misses the clip workflow, that several daws took from ableton when ableton made it successful. Logic is cheaper than a full licenses of most other daws, but occaionally, one might get a lite/intro version of an daw for free with a purchase of hardware or some software, and be able to upgrade to full version for about the same cost as logic. Or one can get Reaper and get a cheaper DAW than logic even, I have seen pros that like reaper a lot as well (but one has to be careful with what license one pays for, as there are different tiers depending on how much revenue one makes).
Lol. No, it’s def not
I love your language. Its difficult to understand. Seems to be some sort of older UK accent.
No.. Just Scottish
@@PaulThird So this is a regular accent for all people? It sounds a bit like people from ´Ireland´. I´m not from the UK and we just learn in school the typical US english. Its very basic, but the UK english has a larger spectrum with different expression of accent tones.
UK is a collection of different accents but England has a way wider spectrum accent wise where Scotland is pretty much the same just with different annunciations.
English remains the same language, throughout the UK, it's just the accent that changes.
Irish is different from Scottish but can sometimes be blurred a little dependent on how thick the accent is.
Irish think of Cillian Murphy, Colin Farrell, Liam Neeson
Scottish think of Gerard Butler, Ewan Mcgreggor, Craig Ferguson
You'll never hear broad Scottish on US TV or on youtube as our native tongue is way too fast and we play on words a lot which can confuse anybody outside our area.
What you hear on my videos is my polite "radio voice"
@@PaulThird Very interesting. I like to listen to your podcast videos, because the accent sounds different, so I need more attention to understand the words. Its very quick tonal shaping. People from New York sound very different. I´m by the way not from America. Very interesting subject. Thanks for the answers. Please continue with your podcasts. I subcribed 5 minutes ago.
hhhhhhhhh the end 😂
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🤦♂️Telling ya, Reaper is the way to go. They have the most free updates, never crashes, they have"The Lowest Processing Cost "(meaning you can run 91 plugins in Reaper versus 63 in Studio One-on an M1 8 core chip), and their usually innovaters! This I mention they are also the past stable, meaning less crashes or issues with their software!
Nah fuck reaper 😂😂
They fkn crammed Protools down our throats at UHI, so being a rebel I headed to logic PRO 😂, Fkn trapped in an endless fkn Apple loop that goes round and fkn round M1M2M3 wtf Em going aff ma fkn heid. So studio 1?
Studio one
After Logic Pro and Luna. I will never be buying pro tools. I'll wait for Logic Pro to become the 2nd industry standard. Industry standard is 3rd party we should know that by now.
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This guy has gretsch. He is good.
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Guess what - as an "avid" Pro Tools user I went back recently and I miss it,. Sorry but al the DAWs sufferf with so many bugs and so much shit. Pro Tools is still the best DAW IF it wasn't for the bugs. I have used Ableton, Studio One (which looks shit sorry by thats just my opinion and totally respect yours its just how I feel, maybe I've totally overlooked something), I love Ableton Live, Logic Is a beast of a DAW but has issues. Reaper - Meh I don't get it, very techy and cold. Cubase I learnt in Uni, I don't want to go back, still looks like the old scary dorm days (sorry lol). If I had to pick one DAW, it would be Logic still. I love PT it does audio editing still so much better. In fact I would say the last 6 years has been a letdown. Logic still best for Audio, Logic best for midi, Ableton Best for beats. Studio One appears really cluttered? Tell me I'm wrong I'll look again. Reaper - meh, Cubase - meh, Logic - clean, Pro Tools look pro even with issues. So sell it to me. Show me a video about why you love Studio One.
I like the cluttered nature though as it means I've got everything at my disposal without going through a ton of menus like other daws.
Feature wise for a mixer PT is just too limited and stuck in the dark ages for me. I can knock out a mix way quicker in S1 than in PT but each to their own. Said it many times, daws are very personal
Shame they can’t make it just work with a midi keyboard - after a few days I still cannot get it to work with a midi keyboard. Pro Tools, Logic, Ableton live, no issues just works. I think get the basics right first.
Works with mine 🤷♂️
@@PaulThird Seriously I got it working but I had to "add" it - really sorry love your channel but that was just a silly thing to have to do, it should work at least without requiring configuring in the DAW. It just works in Logic, I like that way - plug and play? Don't you prefer that?
As a plugin developer Pro Tools is far and away the most time consuming host to solve problems for. So many days wasted.
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Today Pro Tools are NOT a standard around the world in the studios. Personally I prefer Cubase PRO / Nuendo, but I have used them all in different studios thru the years.
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