I've been a PT user for over 20 years now, and Avids subscription model has driven me to try a new DAW. I am so looking forward to using Studio One on my next project.
Great advice, Joe! 20 year Cubase user here. In the early 2000s I remember feeling like I was on the outside looking in with the majority of folks using the "industry standard" Pro Tools. However, like you recommended here, I stuck with what I HAD and what I knew. Still using Cubase to this day, still love it.
Same here. I started in Cubase about 30 years ago, tried a few others, including ProTools, which is good but it just feels too uptight or something. Studio One has been a perfect balance of everything I want since Studio One 3.
Excellent vid, Joe. I have been a S! user since version 2, now on 6. I appreciate you doing this short comparison to PT. Your key points hit the hot spots for me. And, as you said, it is not the equipment nor the software. It's the art. Thanks, and keep up the great work!
that is a great thing. I noticed the routing behaving that way and I love it. I went to change the output of the bus and I'm like oh, it's already going to the drum bus. Great work.
I am so happy to finally hear somebody that has "influence" in the industry to say we are teaching "how to make great music not how to us a certain software" after all their are musicians out there winning grammy's using free software and recording,mixing,engineering,producing and mastering all by themselves in their living room now.... Keep up the great work!!!
Hi Joe, 35 years of daws here. I used Cubase for all the first years of my career, then I switched to Logic because of the more immediate workflow. In recent years, after buying Dorico for serious score works (great software), I have given Cubase a new chance. From Logic to Cubase I find that in each one I found things that were not there in the other. Then the breakthrough, the best of every DAW to the best of their aspirations to use: StudioOne! I couldn't ask and imagine anything better, from multi-part midi composition to more advanced audio mixing. And if I need sheet music on the fly, here is the score editor that is already there everything is ready. In short, this year I made my final step and Buyed Studio One, and full of satisfaction. Great Presonus, go on like this.
I started on acid pro years ago but left music to raise a family. When getting back into music it was a friend with studio one V2 that got me rejuvenated! Been on studio one ever since but I am just now learning how to actually use it thanks to you Joe!!!!
Excellent video Joe. I tune in to several audio mixing channels for tutorials to learn the concepts, and that's what I get. Digital audio is so flexible, I can somewhat choose whatever I want as a DAW or plug-in, and if my application of knowledge creates what it should, it'll sound good regardless of what I used to create it. I'm in the Studio One 6.1 Artist camp, now on my new Mac Mini M2 and 24 GB unified memory and 512 GB storage.
I agree totally. Its what works for you and makes sense to you. I use S1 and love it. I am "pre" DAW. I learned engineering before ADAT; totally analogue ;)... I started sequencing in the 80s. S1 seems to incorporate alot of the old school mentality when creating the interface. So for me, it was intuitive coming from that background.
I started writing and recording songs in 2016. Bought a basic presonus rig and learned a LOT from Joe and Graham. I don't really see myself switching anytime soon. I got the shortcuts down, and the less time I can spend on learning new software and technical stuff the better the workflow
My problem with various audio software tools is the learning curve. The more whistles and bells the software has, the more complex and mind boggling it becomes. I agree, less focus on the software, more focus on the music creation. :)
Wow, what incredible timing! I've been working in Logic for 15 years and love it, but built a very strong PC recently. I wasn't sure which DAW to go with, Pro Tools or Studio One. Thank you for the video!
You nailed it Joe. DAW's are just tools. Use the one (or ones) that work for you. Case in point - My day job is in Post, where Pro Tools is still king. However, I was asked to write a theme song for a TV pilot and the music for that was produced in Studio One. The voice actors (it was a kids animation show) tracked the vocals to my theme in Pro Tools. I did the sound design for the animation in Reaper and the whole thing was mixed in Pro Tools. I simply sent audio between each DAW for each task. At the end of the day, the network only wants audio files (full mix and the various dialogue, FX and music stems). The whole "this DAW" destroys "that" DAW is pointless.
Great offer of perspective Joe! I appreciate the explanation of both sides of the two Daws in various views. If I was to try to do that with all of the reasons why I like and don't like just about "all" daws, viewers would walk away just as confused as I've been for too many years on it all....lmao.
I used S1 for years for mostly tracking then dump my stuff to PT to mixdown. It’s crazy things have changed over the years in a good way and like you’re saying things have their pros and cons and they all somewhat do the same.
I think actually the opposite is better. If you are recording live musicians, do it in Pro Tools and then mix with Studio One. Performance is so much better if you mix all-in-the-box
great video im in the market for a new daw i looking into mixing semi pro i love pro tools hate avid looked into cubase im mainly a windows user and with the latest i9 isue with cubase felt liked everyting is pushing toward mac dont feell lkie learing new operating system my qustion is how difficult was the switch from protools to studio one with keycomands and work flow thank u love the video u kept it real
I too was a pro tools user but after endless problems that it created with CPU and And paid technical support that was worse than a beginner I moved over to studio one and have loved it ever since there's so many amazing features that just makes sense on studio one.
I started with ProTools (before, during and after audio school) but switched to S1 for music and reaper for film sound because ProTools crashed way to much on Windows. S1 currently lack atmos, Ara with RX and I prefer panning and marker in ProTools. Like the .#. Shortcut is Incredibly powerfull. In today's world, even if PT is still the "industry standard", more and more producer work with collobrative plugin or adapt to others that don't use PT. 2023 we can make car drive alone, so whatever we use, like you say, the only important thing is great music.
I think Presonus S6 is a fantastic DAW . I started on Artist , but to me buying in to the subscription was a no brainer . Why? Because you get the full suite , it’ll be upgraded as upgrades become apparent . So you don’t need to go buy the update . Minimal upfront cost meant I had more for other plugins . Although I have to say , the suite that comes with pro6 is superb. Love your work Jo . Keep up the great work!
I am a voice actor. For my work I prefer Adobe Audition in conjunction with some Waves plugins and iZotope Ozone. I love Ozone's denoise module. Audition is far more intuitive than either ProTools or Studio One. Audition is far superior when in comes to performing voice track editing. Audition is my Swiss Army knife for voice over editing and audio production.
Logic user here - as my MacBook Pro from late 2012 started struggling with bigger projects and I realised that I own a super powerful Windows based workstation for video editing I searched a windows friendly daw. Started with reaper but honestly, coming from something intuitive and user friendly like logic I couldn’t get warm with reaper. It is very powerful but it really wasn’t for me. I had the feeling it’s a bit like in school. There are some people with an analytic brain good in maths, physics, IT etc. and there are those with a more free floating out of the box brain being good in stuff like arts, literature etc. The first type is more reaper and the second more studio one type of user. Weird analogy but that’s how I see it. Now with studio one I couldn’t be any happier. It is awesome. And since version 6.5 I can also use it for Dolby Atmos. All my postproduction stuff was done mostly in davinci studio but now starting to use studio one for sound design. Oh and I just discovered this macros function to set up those toolbars where u can group multiple clicks into one button. Huge timesaver! Love it!
Long term user of both here. My votes for winner would be: Bitwig - purely for production front-end creative stuff (in electronic genres) Reaper - for core mix/master needs.
I think that one of the best things presonus did right was how you are able to buy software. They gave you a choice right off the bat to purchase it out right to have the software or to do a subscription base. I think all companies should do this. I’ve used studio one since s1 and I’m on s5 with zero issues and it is my standard daw of choice!!
For starters: bravo 👏 thank you, because I had to hear an honest opinion, and you nailed it. 🙏 A professor I had in college last semester was "putting his foot in the door" with Studio One, seeing that I've been a Pro Tools guy for 20 years, and it wasn't even an audio/recording class. If it has the ReWire feature that integrates FL Studios, that would be AMAZING, seeing that I use that for 75% of a song, but despise the DAW setup it has. I've raw tracked all of my Pro Tools files (sampling drums and a dozen other things in FL Studios), and that new integration would be amazing. I'm going to give it a try, because so far: I've heard nothing but good things about Studio One. Thanks again.
I always worked with pro tools for recording bands, and using studio one, ableton and logic pro in the last two years. Studio One is fantastic and very fast for mixing and mastering compared to PT. Pro Tools, has its own limitations, but is more stable (the only DAW that after any update does not have problems to open any plugin, it never crashes on any of my systems). I love Studio One, but it has still lots of problems when you work with lots of tracks and musicians. For example, when sessions tend to be full of plugins, sometimes you hit play, and some tracks are not reproduced. CPU consumption is higher than pro tools using the same ampount of plugins, and it crashes much often. After 2 years using both, i would say, that i still could never use S1 for big sessions. I know that lots of new folks hate pro tools (i would like to switch too for the stupid avid's policy), but unfortunately, regarding its stability, for someone that works with a lot of bands and complicate projects, it's still the best.
Both studio one and pro tools are great, i use almost every daw and still manage to get good quality mixes every time. I wish pro tools didn't have issues with plugins causing it to crash, as well as it tends to start bugging out even when it is barely using my ram or cpu, but other from that its great
Specifically chose S1 when I was at the edge of the cliff and couldn't take one more freeze/glitch/lockup from PT. Is S1 perfect? No, but I do spend a lot more time making music instead of restarting my computer & praying for the best
I’m not a professional: I switched from PT to S1 back in 2016 because I was so annoyed of ProTools lack of features S1 offered out of the box. With some years I also bought the Presonus Hardware and it really feels more and more buggy … especially in big sessions with a lot of automation. The constant Mac OS Update madness adds some dangers here as well. But still: I really like S1 for its ease of use and nice look.
Used both, but Bitwig is the future imo it has total modulation and routing control now at project level even at the audio rate makes the workflow extremely malleable, it never crashes, plugins run in their own audio engine, the GUI runs separately to the DAW audio so fast. Best DAW i've used in 30 years by quite a long way, just needs multichannel support now.
Consolidated files and you use whatever suits you the best. Ive learned pro tools at University, I ve used cubase at some local studios, I've tried studio one and I finally end up using reaper for my self. I have also bought recently logic, for the instruments, the drummer, spacial sound etc but I mix at the one I know best, so reaper most of the times
S1 is a great value. Came to it from Cakewalk which I still use and have done since the 90s. More and more I use S1 though. Still some things I'd change but all in all it's been great. I don't use half the features (old dog) but I love discovering new ways of working. I used PT back about 20 years ago as well as DP but I left the Mac world a long time ago and stuck with PCs. Funny thing, though, I always install the AAX version of my plugins just in case i ever get back into PT. 😂 That industry standard thing really has weight.
I used Cubase 9 to 12 and I am now a Studio One snob. In some ways, Cubase is more "powerful" (whatever that means) and their amp plugin is way better than Ampire, but S1 is so easy to use and learn - so I make music instead of learning the DAW. And Presonus Sphere is worth its weight in gold. Thanks for cutting thru the clutter Joe, and focusing on the music.
In StudioOne there is big problem still unsolved, when select multi midi tracks together, you can batch adjust Delay, Timebase, etc in the inspector, but you can't change Transpose and Velocity to all, you have to change those track by track. That is huge inconvenience when you have a big MIDI project needs to be tranpose to another key. I know right-click menu can do batch transpose, but in that case I won't be able to see the number of semitones in inspector with a glance. I asked the service about this issue since V4, they just keep telling me use the right click menu, but that definitely not a solution. People who works on MIDI Orchestral project will understand what I'm talking about.
Neither do Studio One, if you buy a perpetual licence. I've tried Reaper so many times. Forced myself to like it, but I gotta say. Between all the options available, I feel like Reaper and Reason are not for everyone.
Reaper is awesome. The only reason I stopped using it was because I wanted a built in sampler. I could never get along with loading kontakt just to quickly trigger a few things.
I’m sort of a weird case in that performing, composing & producing music has been my only job (since age 12, Pieces Of A Dream) but I’ve never mixed anything. Still at it, still not mixing. I turn 59 August 30th. With that, I realize my perspective on what is needed from a daw is a bit different, so I don’t judge anyone’s choices. S1 makes my job a bit easier & “funner”. I also tried working with cubase 10 but I always end up at S1. Have fun my brothers & sisters. What really counts isn’t the daw, it’s your heart. 🎹🎶♥️
I used studio One when i use to play music because it felt easier to use, and my workflow was fast. (In the end it's all personal preference, it's what you get used to.)
This year I migrated from Cakewalk By Bandlab to Studio One Artist, lately on 6.5. I find the workflow is much faster with Studio One, plus Studio One is more stable on my Dell G15 laptop. The channel/bus/effects layout is more adaptable in Studio One, plus you get VCAs in S1.
Studio One is nice, I almost switched from Reaper to Studio One. I decided to get a Mac and switch to Logic Pro X. Mainly as a Songwriter it made sense for 2 Features: 1. The Drummer Feature 2. The Loop Cell feature. Though I still mix sometimes in Reaper I'm really happy. My main mix saver is the "Enveloper" it's the best transientdesigner/gate I've ever used. I'm still a bit lost in Alchemy though.
@@jeffreyhanc1711 on a scale to ten S1 like 7/8 and Reaper 6/7. I really liked Studio One for many things and the Workflow but some plugins sounded a bit too digital and harsh for my taste, but same is with Reaper. Workflowwise S1 is in default better than Reaper. What I really loved about Reaper is the option to customizer really everything, the routing features and the JS and Scripting ecosystem. There are so many talented JS developers like Gerraint Luff, Saike and Tukan that are amazing. Luckily under Windows the free Reaplug Suite has a wrapper so I can use them in other Daws and on Mac there seems to be also an extra programm. Also the possibility to use an external laptop with the same plugins and Reaper can be dope at times. But customising Reaper is an endless rabbit hole and though some stuff sounds nice: I myself never used it/needed it. S1 on the other hand is already very excellent customised and has everything one needs may it be mastering, mixing, producing. The only thing I really missed was a loop cell page like ableton, bigwig or logic. But asside from that it's in most regards better than Reaper, which menues have become a bit wacky. Overall if I hadn't spend 6 years customising Reaper I'd chosen S1 as my mixing daw.
@@jackgolden5006 thanks for this - def food for thought! As a 6 year use of S1, though I feel the company is not going in the right direction. Fender bought out Presonus and the owner has made comments like “S1 should be so easy to use it will only require a 1 page manual.” Many S1 users like me think they’re going to try to make this DAW the next garage band - and the recent updates have been underwhelming (to say the least). In fact they hardly seem that interested in S1, but more in presonus’ hardware catalog. Reaper on the other hand strikes me as far less Corporate - far less “we’re only in it for the money” - far more dedicated to constantly improving the DAW itself. Just something to consider…:)
@@jackgolden5006 and yes, agree with you re cell sequencing as well. I’ve just te r try discovered Bitwig - which to me feels like ableton live on steroids! Great for front-end creative production. Not so great for mixing/mastering though.
I like Reaper myself. For the price..it's Amazing! One price..no subscription fee's. Everything has a learning curve..but if you want quality and value. Reaper is great!
I tried several DAWs about 4 years ago when I first got into recording. I come with the perspective of a software developer. Pro Tools was at the bottom of the list for me. The user interface is terrible. I wound up going with Studio One and have been happy with it ever since. My one gripe with Studio One is you have to have the pro version to use 3rd party plug-ins.
That was addressed in an S1 update before I started using it. My Studio One 6.1 Artist has a stack of 3rd party plug-ins every session. I've used Pulsar, D16, Melda, Tokyo Dawn Records, Klanghelm, Relab, United Plugins, Kazrog, maybe others that were free, even Waves till I phased them out before the recent kerfuffle.
I am just starting out and trying to decide which daw to commit to learning and using. I've been playing with reaper and its really awesome BUT, I want something more intuitive and has a fast workflow so I can capture ideas on the fly. I want to not have to worry about whats going with my computer, just pure creativity. I know there isn't a perfect daw, but with the scarlett interface it comes with 3 months of free pro tools artist and it has everything I need and it would just be easier to get it sent out for mastering. Studio One seems to check all the boxes I want, it seems intuitive, fast and caters to someone like me that has ideas pop up all the time. Does pro tools work in a way that makes it good for me capturing those ideas and developing them into a good finished product? Both have a flat rate "perpetual" option and affordable monthly subscriptions. I cant decide man! What would you recommend. Also keep those videos coming, great stuff man!
Please help me with Studio One Prime... I can't upload plugins. Maybe it's the Prime version.. For me it's difficult coming from Protools... I just want to add my plugins without all the extra set up... I just want to add simple instruments and effects.. It sucks that I have to find and install plugins but I could be wrong..
🙌 what a sermon on DAWs and letting it known aain its not the Daw but the way you use it for your advantage to produce your own music in profession and amateur level
Who would win in a fight, Pee Wee Herman or Bruce Lee? I was a major PT user (HD2 Accel) until I got disenchanted & started using Logic. I fell in love with S1 at version 4. It’s now my main daw & I only use logic if I wanna work with the drummer plugin. I’ve learned sooo much from you for quite some time. Thank you so much. I’m a firm believer that there’s no best daw, it’s all in what one does with it. They’re all just “tools” for a “pro”, or novice. 😊 Music is about fun. If it isn’t, you’re not doing it right 🎹🎶♥️.
You have been a ubiquitous S1 Go To for me here in later Life's Music.. and a really nice Rapp out to C&C S1/PT.. work flow is ultimate second to overall capability and Presonus has laid bread crumbs along the way.. I would like to See a Map that travels the logical recording process but haven't yet and it would be Cool to zoom in from meta to micro and maintain a mission critical awareness of what lives behind the Media before and after trackage.. and to see the purpose in perpetuity of Mastering and Media.. but I am just an old analog shoe in search of a Magic Carpet Ride
Can you do a video that proves that S1 and PT have the same audio quality. I know I must be crazy, but PT sounds warmer and bassier than tracks I record in S1. Is there like a null test that proves they both play and handle audio the same?
if you want to slow the entire session down to play a difficult part, then return to the normal BPM, as I recall Studio One makes you type in the normal BPM again once you try to return to normal speed. Is that still true? I just ran the demo and said "Yikes" and left.
Started with fl studio then Pro tools left that then studio one got tired of updating costs plugins not working properly now I’m in reaper they all do the same thing but have different features 👍🏾
I use both, Pro Tools since 1991 and Studio One last couple years. What I hate about Pro Tools is the constantly seconds freeze when moving around while playing a session (Trying plugins, etc.). Basically you have to stop playing the timeline, to be able to change anything. Studio One manages this much better. Everything loads faster.
Hi Joe, I have a question... I bought a presonnus 1824c and I got Studio one artist 5 free as a bonus. Now that Stodio one 6 is out can I update my DAW to studio one artist 6 for free with the product key? Thank you in advance
Not Joe, and I don't know if this answers your question. I started on Studio One 6.0 Artist a few months ago when I got a new Presonus Studio 68c interface. My S1 DAW recently updated free to version 6.1. Try looking at Studio One in the top menu. I think it's the help option, and check for update. See what it gets you.
thanks to your vids im full studio one. i should of went with studio one from the beginning. and true pt is standard and only standard. studio one is best
You dont need PT in the industry...unless you work under a studio...if you paying to use their studio, you can hook S1 to their music system. I HAVE MY OWN STUDIO AND RECORD ALOT OF ARTIST SINCE 2000. 🙌🏿🔥
I’ve used a lot of DAWs and music software and I had never even heard of Studio One until this video. I kinda feel that the best DAW is the one that you already own and know how to use. For me that is Logic. Logic is not just the best music software I have ever used, it is the best software, period. But I’ll always keep an open mind….
Started on Sonar and been using Reaper for several years. Tried Pro Tools a few months ago, and the whole experience was a massive headache. Picked up Studio One a few weeks ago, and already feel pretty much at home.
Even the argument “you ought to own ProTools as a working engineer” (not that it’s Joe’s main argument here) has lost a bit of weight through the years. As a former primary ProTools user, one of my main reasons for switching to Studio One was the ability to use ProTools (or many other DAW’s) key commands. This enables me to stay practiced up on my ProTools commands when I go back to ProTools for contract work at another studio. My only gripe, if you can even call it that, with SO is that it is so focused on developing music production improvements, it sometimes feels like they’re lagging on basic audio/mixing improvements. It honestly gets obnoxious to me, as a working engineer. That said, still my favorite - LOVE THE MACROS.
@@LossLeadas Really, I was more referring to audio editing. The waveform editing in Studio One, while improved over the years, has yet to catch up to PT. But that said, it’s working fine for me these days. They improved the waveform graphics (still not perfect, but tolerable), and more of the basic functions are there, enabling you to edit clips to a zero line, rather than always crossfade, for example. Just for the working engineer, who has to do basic audio editing, these very basic, sort of core audio tasks, are… honestly neglected a bit.
@@audioglenngineer yes really!!! lol..i dont like pro tools most people use it to say they use something so call industry standard a bunch of followers...im nice with all daws
i Married Studio One , Then Cheated with Protools, apologized and ran back to Studio One. I still cheat time to time with PT. Studio one, She was a Complete babe. Peace of mind, always going above and beyond. But that Protools was a wild night. She was the Industry Hoe. So much stress but she was the industry Hoe. She works but won't do nothing more. Studio One is insane. Project arrangement, mastering portion, You can even do scrap mixes in a mix, like what! Routing is like the best part about protools. Use both mehn this is 2023. Use both,
I know you were pontificating a little on the art over the tool and Joni Mitchell agreed as well: "My microphone simply amplifies what I bring to the studio". The tools are what amplifies the artistry but it never "makes" the artist.
I've been a PT user for over 20 years now, and Avids subscription model has driven me to try a new DAW. I am so looking forward to using Studio One on my next project.
Great advice, Joe! 20 year Cubase user here. In the early 2000s I remember feeling like I was on the outside looking in with the majority of folks using the "industry standard" Pro Tools. However, like you recommended here, I stuck with what I HAD and what I knew. Still using Cubase to this day, still love it.
Studio One is my DAW of choice hands down. Good music is good music, doesn't matter where it's made as long as it sounds good.
Studio One is my go to DAW! I've used pretty much all of them at some point but find the S1 workflow is best!
Same here. I started in Cubase about 30 years ago, tried a few others, including ProTools, which is good but it just feels too uptight or something. Studio One has been a perfect balance of everything I want since Studio One 3.
SAME!!!!
Excellent vid, Joe. I have been a S! user since version 2, now on 6. I appreciate you doing this short comparison to PT. Your key points hit the hot spots for me. And, as you said, it is not the equipment nor the software. It's the art. Thanks, and keep up the great work!
that is a great thing. I noticed the routing behaving that way and I love it. I went to change the output of the bus and I'm like oh, it's already going to the drum bus. Great work.
I am so happy to finally hear somebody that has "influence" in the industry to say we are teaching "how to make great music not how to us a certain software" after all their are musicians out there winning grammy's using free software and recording,mixing,engineering,producing and mastering all by themselves in their living room now.... Keep up the great work!!!
Just because one has a”tool” doesn’t mean they know how to use it. Lol!
Hi Joe, 35 years of daws here. I used Cubase for all the first years of my career, then I switched to Logic because of the more immediate workflow. In recent years, after buying Dorico for serious score works (great software), I have given Cubase a new chance. From Logic to Cubase I find that in each one I found things that were not there in the other.
Then the breakthrough, the best of every DAW to the best of their aspirations to use: StudioOne! I couldn't ask and imagine anything better, from multi-part midi composition to more advanced audio mixing. And if I need sheet music on the fly, here is the score editor that is already there everything is ready.
In short, this year I made my final step and Buyed Studio One, and full of satisfaction. Great Presonus, go on like this.
I started on acid pro years ago but left music to raise a family. When getting back into music it was a friend with studio one V2 that got me rejuvenated! Been on studio one ever since but I am just now learning how to actually use it thanks to you Joe!!!!
Thank you for sharing your time and experience!
Excellent video Joe. I tune in to several audio mixing channels for tutorials to learn the concepts, and that's what I get. Digital audio is so flexible, I can somewhat choose whatever I want as a DAW or plug-in, and if my application of knowledge creates what it should, it'll sound good regardless of what I used to create it.
I'm in the Studio One 6.1 Artist camp, now on my new Mac Mini M2 and 24 GB unified memory and 512 GB storage.
I love the mixer in FL Studio
Thank you for the video it really makes good sense!!
I agree totally. Its what works for you and makes sense to you. I use S1 and love it. I am "pre" DAW. I learned engineering before ADAT; totally analogue ;)... I started sequencing in the 80s. S1 seems to incorporate alot of the old school mentality when creating the interface. So for me, it was intuitive coming from that background.
For me, propellerhead's reason, pro tools and Luna
Mario Paint Music Composer is hands down the best DAW
Only the real ones know ❤❤
Use it now as my main daw thanks to you!
i luv it but how can i create audio channels & activate talkback?
@@giulioboobzilla you don't know? Not gonna tell you because it's just too easy
@@Beatwilder I’ll find out ;)
I started writing and recording songs in 2016. Bought a basic presonus rig and learned a LOT from Joe and Graham. I don't really see myself switching anytime soon. I got the shortcuts down, and the less time I can spend on learning new software and technical stuff the better the workflow
My problem with various audio software tools is the learning curve. The more whistles and bells the software has, the more complex and mind boggling it becomes. I agree, less focus on the software, more focus on the music creation. :)
That's why I stayed with Pro Tools. Studio One is great for lots of things but I found the interface overwhelming and often confusing.
Editing is the thing that protools has me on so it’s good to see how you transitioned from being dedicated in protools.
Thanks Joe for this answer!!
Wow, what incredible timing! I've been working in Logic for 15 years and love it, but built a very strong PC recently. I wasn't sure which DAW to go with, Pro Tools or Studio One. Thank you for the video!
Really, why would you go for either. Surely if you want a professional set up you would go with Cubase. But hey .
You nailed it Joe. DAW's are just tools. Use the one (or ones) that work for you. Case in point - My day job is in Post, where Pro Tools is still king. However, I was asked to write a theme song for a TV pilot and the music for that was produced in Studio One. The voice actors (it was a kids animation show) tracked the vocals to my theme in Pro Tools. I did the sound design for the animation in Reaper and the whole thing was mixed in Pro Tools. I simply sent audio between each DAW for each task. At the end of the day, the network only wants audio files (full mix and the various dialogue, FX and music stems). The whole "this DAW" destroys "that" DAW is pointless.
Great offer of perspective Joe! I appreciate the explanation of both sides of the two Daws in various views. If I was to try to do that with all of the reasons why I like and don't like just about "all" daws, viewers would walk away just as confused as I've been for too many years on it all....lmao.
Don't fear the Reaper, y'all.
I used S1 for years for mostly tracking then dump my stuff to PT to mixdown. It’s crazy things have changed over the years in a good way and like you’re saying things have their pros and cons and they all somewhat do the same.
I think actually the opposite is better. If you are recording live musicians, do it in Pro Tools and then mix with Studio One. Performance is so much better if you mix all-in-the-box
great video im in the market for a new daw i looking into mixing semi pro i love pro tools hate avid looked into cubase im mainly a windows user and with the latest i9 isue with cubase felt liked everyting is pushing toward mac dont feell lkie learing new operating system my qustion is how difficult was the switch from protools to studio one with keycomands and work flow thank u love the video u kept it real
I too was a pro tools user but after endless problems that it created with CPU and And paid technical support that was worse than a beginner I moved over to studio one and have loved it ever since there's so many amazing features that just makes sense on studio one.
I started with ProTools (before, during and after audio school) but switched to S1 for music and reaper for film sound because ProTools crashed way to much on Windows. S1 currently lack atmos, Ara with RX and I prefer panning and marker in ProTools. Like the .#. Shortcut is Incredibly powerfull. In today's world, even if PT is still the "industry standard", more and more producer work with collobrative plugin or adapt to others that don't use PT. 2023 we can make car drive alone, so whatever we use, like you say, the only important thing is great music.
I think Presonus S6 is a fantastic DAW . I started on Artist , but to me buying in to the subscription was a no brainer . Why?
Because you get the full suite , it’ll be upgraded as upgrades become apparent . So you don’t need to go buy the update . Minimal upfront cost meant I had more for other plugins . Although I have to say , the suite that comes with pro6 is superb.
Love your work Jo . Keep up the great work!
I am a voice actor. For my work I prefer Adobe Audition in conjunction with some Waves plugins and iZotope Ozone. I love Ozone's denoise module. Audition is far more intuitive than either ProTools or Studio One. Audition is far superior when in comes to performing voice track editing. Audition is my Swiss Army knife for voice over editing and audio production.
Audition does not come close to pro tools which is light years better and more advanced. You have no clue what you are talking about.
..the best DAW is the one you know best !!
Logic user here - as my MacBook Pro from late 2012 started struggling with bigger projects and I realised that I own a super powerful Windows based workstation for video editing I searched a windows friendly daw.
Started with reaper but honestly, coming from something intuitive and user friendly like logic I couldn’t get warm with reaper. It is very powerful but it really wasn’t for me. I had the feeling it’s a bit like in school. There are some people with an analytic brain good in maths, physics, IT etc. and there are those with a more free floating out of the box brain being good in stuff like arts, literature etc. The first type is more reaper and the second more studio one type of user. Weird analogy but that’s how I see it.
Now with studio one I couldn’t be any happier. It is awesome. And since version 6.5 I can also use it for Dolby Atmos. All my postproduction stuff was done mostly in davinci studio but now starting to use studio one for sound design. Oh and I just discovered this macros function to set up those toolbars where u can group multiple clicks into one button. Huge timesaver! Love it!
Do you have a video explaining your drum editing technique in studioone ?
Long term user of both here. My votes for winner would be:
Bitwig - purely for production front-end creative stuff (in electronic genres)
Reaper - for core mix/master needs.
Bitwig is killing it at the moment for workflow and audio creativity, it's just so powerful and malleable.
I think that one of the best things presonus did right was how you are able to buy software. They gave you a choice right off the bat to purchase it out right to have the software or to do a subscription base. I think all companies should do this. I’ve used studio one since s1 and I’m on s5 with zero issues and it is my standard daw of choice!!
Hey Joe... any word on atmos in studio one? I really hope they add it nativity in S1
For starters: bravo 👏 thank you, because I had to hear an honest opinion, and you nailed it. 🙏 A professor I had in college last semester was "putting his foot in the door" with Studio One, seeing that I've been a Pro Tools guy for 20 years, and it wasn't even an audio/recording class. If it has the ReWire feature that integrates FL Studios, that would be AMAZING, seeing that I use that for 75% of a song, but despise the DAW setup it has. I've raw tracked all of my Pro Tools files (sampling drums and a dozen other things in FL Studios), and that new integration would be amazing. I'm going to give it a try, because so far: I've heard nothing but good things about Studio One. Thanks again.
I always worked with pro tools for recording bands, and using studio one, ableton and logic pro in the last two years. Studio One is fantastic and very fast for mixing and mastering compared to PT. Pro Tools, has its own limitations, but is more stable (the only DAW that after any update does not have problems to open any plugin, it never crashes on any of my systems). I love Studio One, but it has still lots of problems when you work with lots of tracks and musicians. For example, when sessions tend to be full of plugins, sometimes you hit play, and some tracks are not reproduced. CPU consumption is higher than pro tools using the same ampount of plugins, and it crashes much often. After 2 years using both, i would say, that i still could never use S1 for big sessions. I know that lots of new folks hate pro tools (i would like to switch too for the stupid avid's policy), but unfortunately, regarding its stability, for someone that works with a lot of bands and complicate projects, it's still the best.
Reaper Wins It Just Works!
Still adore my Cubase (since Atari’s years…). Most of the commands you mentioned, are as well in Cubase.
Both studio one and pro tools are great, i use almost every daw and still manage to get good quality mixes every time. I wish pro tools didn't have issues with plugins causing it to crash, as well as it tends to start bugging out even when it is barely using my ram or cpu, but other from that its great
good content!!
Specifically chose S1 when I was at the edge of the cliff and couldn't take one more freeze/glitch/lockup from PT. Is S1 perfect? No, but I do spend a lot more time making music instead of restarting my computer & praying for the best
I’m not a professional:
I switched from PT to S1 back in 2016 because I was so annoyed of ProTools lack of features S1 offered out of the box. With some years I also bought the Presonus Hardware and it really feels more and more buggy … especially in big sessions with a lot of automation. The constant Mac OS Update madness adds some dangers here as well. But still: I really like S1 for its ease of use and nice look.
did you ever try logic? I think it's more stable than S1
But when are they adding atmos and Surround sound in studio one?
Used both, but Bitwig is the future imo it has total modulation and routing control now at project level even at the audio rate makes the workflow extremely malleable, it never crashes, plugins run in their own audio engine, the GUI runs separately to the DAW audio so fast. Best DAW i've used in 30 years by quite a long way, just needs multichannel support now.
Consolidated files and you use whatever suits you the best.
Ive learned pro tools at University, I ve used cubase at some local studios, I've tried studio one and I finally end up using reaper for my self. I have also bought recently logic, for the instruments, the drummer, spacial sound etc but I mix at the one I know best, so reaper most of the times
Studio one now has Atmos support in 6.5
S1 is a great value. Came to it from Cakewalk which I still use and have done since the 90s. More and more I use S1 though. Still some things I'd change but all in all it's been great. I don't use half the features (old dog) but I love discovering new ways of working. I used PT back about 20 years ago as well as DP but I left the Mac world a long time ago and stuck with PCs. Funny thing, though, I always install the AAX version of my plugins just in case i ever get back into PT. 😂 That industry standard thing really has weight.
I used Cubase 9 to 12 and I am now a Studio One snob. In some ways, Cubase is more "powerful" (whatever that means) and their amp plugin is way better than Ampire, but S1 is so easy to use and learn - so I make music instead of learning the DAW. And Presonus Sphere is worth its weight in gold. Thanks for cutting thru the clutter Joe, and focusing on the music.
1999 Cakewalk 'Pro Audio 9' has this program beat HANDS DOWN. And that was before they went to 'Sonar'.
I still like sonar Platinum
In StudioOne there is big problem still unsolved, when select multi midi tracks together, you can batch adjust Delay, Timebase, etc in the inspector, but you can't change Transpose and Velocity to all, you have to change those track by track. That is huge inconvenience when you have a big MIDI project needs to be tranpose to another key. I know right-click menu can do batch transpose, but in that case I won't be able to see the number of semitones in inspector with a glance. I asked the service about this issue since V4, they just keep telling me use the right click menu, but that definitely not a solution. People who works on MIDI Orchestral project will understand what I'm talking about.
Reaper 🙌
I have both and like them for different reasons. They each have their cons, too.
I really want studio one on my iPad. Lol this should be a thing.😊
and android (other than just the remote)
I like reaper. They don't charge a monthly fee to use!
I don’t know anything about Reaper nor have I used it, but I heard it’s an awesome program! I may give it a try, especially for the price!
Neither do Studio One, if you buy a perpetual licence. I've tried Reaper so many times. Forced myself to like it, but I gotta say. Between all the options available, I feel like Reaper and Reason are not for everyone.
Reaper is awesome. The only reason I stopped using it was because I wanted a built in sampler.
I could never get along with loading kontakt just to quickly trigger a few things.
@@Jaxon23294it’s cool if you like setting everything up to use it like you want
@@i_jetlagthey aren’t
I’m sort of a weird case in that performing, composing & producing music has been my only job (since age 12, Pieces Of A Dream) but I’ve never mixed anything. Still at it, still not mixing. I turn 59 August 30th. With that, I realize my perspective on what is needed from a daw is a bit different, so I don’t judge anyone’s choices. S1 makes my job a bit easier & “funner”. I also tried working with cubase 10 but I always end up at S1. Have fun my brothers & sisters. What really counts isn’t the daw, it’s your heart. 🎹🎶♥️
How do I move files from Studio one to Pro-tools if I decide to switch.
I still use Acid Pro and Sound Forge, to which were studio staples that Pro-Fools stole from, but to record I choose Studio One!
Logic, Ableton and Reaper are MY favourites
I used studio One when i use to play music because it felt easier to use, and my workflow was fast. (In the end it's all personal preference, it's what you get used to.)
This year I migrated from Cakewalk By Bandlab to Studio One Artist, lately on 6.5. I find the workflow is much faster with Studio One, plus Studio One is more stable on my Dell G15 laptop. The channel/bus/effects layout is more adaptable in Studio One, plus you get VCAs in S1.
Studio One is nice, I almost switched from Reaper to Studio One. I decided to get a Mac and switch to Logic Pro X. Mainly as a Songwriter it made sense for 2 Features:
1. The Drummer Feature
2. The Loop Cell feature.
Though I still mix sometimes in Reaper I'm really happy. My main mix saver is the "Enveloper" it's the best transientdesigner/gate I've ever used. I'm still a bit lost in Alchemy though.
Long term S1 here curious about Reaper. Outside of price (reaper FTW) how would you rate the 2?
@@jeffreyhanc1711 on a scale to ten S1 like 7/8 and Reaper 6/7. I really liked Studio One for many things and the Workflow but some plugins sounded a bit too digital and harsh for my taste, but same is with Reaper. Workflowwise S1 is in default better than Reaper. What I really loved about Reaper is the option to customizer really everything, the routing features and the JS and Scripting ecosystem.
There are so many talented JS developers like Gerraint Luff, Saike and Tukan that are amazing.
Luckily under Windows the free Reaplug Suite has a wrapper so I can use them in other Daws and on Mac there seems to be also an extra programm.
Also the possibility to use an external laptop with the same plugins and Reaper can be dope at times.
But customising Reaper is an endless rabbit hole and though some stuff sounds nice: I myself never used it/needed it.
S1 on the other hand is already very excellent customised and has everything one needs may it be mastering, mixing, producing. The only thing I really missed was a loop cell page like ableton, bigwig or logic. But asside from that it's in most regards better than Reaper, which menues have become a bit wacky.
Overall if I hadn't spend 6 years customising Reaper I'd chosen S1 as my mixing daw.
@@jackgolden5006 thanks for this - def food for thought!
As a 6 year use of S1, though I feel the company is not going in the right direction. Fender bought out Presonus and the owner has made comments like “S1 should be so easy to use it will only require a 1 page manual.” Many S1 users like me think they’re going to try to make this DAW the next garage band - and the recent updates have been underwhelming (to say the least). In fact they hardly seem that interested in S1, but more in presonus’ hardware catalog. Reaper on the other hand strikes me as far less Corporate - far less “we’re only in it for the money” - far more dedicated to constantly improving the DAW itself.
Just something to consider…:)
@@jackgolden5006 and yes, agree with you re cell sequencing as well. I’ve just te r try discovered Bitwig - which to me feels like ableton live on steroids! Great for front-end creative production. Not so great for mixing/mastering though.
I like Reaper myself. For the price..it's Amazing! One price..no subscription fee's. Everything has a learning curve..but if you want quality and value. Reaper is great!
Hey Joe you KNOW what side I'm on these days😉🔥💪
I would love for S1 to have a atmos integration like cubase. Specially for us windows folk
Reaper. That is all.
This is the correct answer
I tried several DAWs about 4 years ago when I first got into recording. I come with the perspective of a software developer. Pro Tools was at the bottom of the list for me. The user interface is terrible. I wound up going with Studio One and have been happy with it ever since. My one gripe with Studio One is you have to have the pro version to use 3rd party plug-ins.
You can use 3rd party plug-ins if you have the Artist version as well. I use S1 Artist v5.
@@ecotomgr Thanks. I see it is that way now but I think you needed pro in the past when I started.
That was addressed in an S1 update before I started using it.
My Studio One 6.1 Artist has a stack of 3rd party plug-ins every session. I've used Pulsar, D16, Melda, Tokyo Dawn Records, Klanghelm, Relab, United Plugins, Kazrog, maybe others that were free, even Waves till I phased them out before the recent kerfuffle.
I am just starting out and trying to decide which daw to commit to learning and using. I've been playing with reaper and its really awesome BUT, I want something more intuitive and has a fast workflow so I can capture ideas on the fly. I want to not have to worry about whats going with my computer, just pure creativity. I know there isn't a perfect daw, but with the scarlett interface it comes with 3 months of free pro tools artist and it has everything I need and it would just be easier to get it sent out for mastering. Studio One seems to check all the boxes I want, it seems intuitive, fast and caters to someone like me that has ideas pop up all the time. Does pro tools work in a way that makes it good for me capturing those ideas and developing them into a good finished product? Both have a flat rate "perpetual" option and affordable monthly subscriptions. I cant decide man! What would you recommend. Also keep those videos coming, great stuff man!
Mixing for me pro tools since I own an Avid control surface(S3)
Please help me with Studio One Prime... I can't upload plugins. Maybe it's the Prime version.. For me it's difficult coming from Protools... I just want to add my plugins without all the extra set up... I just want to add simple instruments and effects.. It sucks that I have to find and install plugins but I could be wrong..
"use whatever you have and make great music" amen and amen
It's you that requested that routing thing 😂😂shout out man
🙌 what a sermon on DAWs and letting it known aain its not the Daw but the way you use it for your advantage to produce your own music in profession and amateur level
Where's the guy that used to present this tutorials? I'm curious
Who would win in a fight, Pee Wee Herman or Bruce Lee? I was a major PT user (HD2 Accel) until I got disenchanted & started using Logic. I fell in love with S1 at version 4. It’s now my main daw & I only use logic if I wanna work with the drummer plugin. I’ve learned sooo much from you for quite some time. Thank you so much. I’m a firm believer that there’s no best daw, it’s all in what one does with it. They’re all just “tools” for a “pro”, or novice. 😊 Music is about fun. If it isn’t, you’re not doing it right 🎹🎶♥️.
.....Reaper 😁
link to that technique please
You have been a ubiquitous S1 Go To for me here in later Life's Music.. and a really nice Rapp out to C&C S1/PT.. work flow is ultimate second to overall capability and Presonus has laid bread crumbs along the way.. I would like to See a Map that travels the logical recording process but haven't yet and it would be Cool to zoom in from meta to micro and maintain a mission critical awareness of what lives behind the Media before and after trackage.. and to see the purpose in perpetuity of Mastering and Media.. but I am just an old analog shoe in search of a Magic Carpet Ride
Can you do a video that proves that S1 and PT have the same audio quality. I know I must be crazy, but PT sounds warmer and bassier than tracks I record in S1. Is there like a null test that proves they both play and handle audio the same?
Seriously? Even if so.... you could easily get the exact same result with plugins.
if you want to slow the entire session down to play a difficult part, then return to the normal BPM, as I recall Studio One makes you type in the normal BPM again once you try to return to normal speed. Is that still true? I just ran the demo and said "Yikes" and left.
Started with fl studio then Pro tools left that then studio one got tired of updating costs plugins not working properly now I’m in reaper they all do the same thing but have different features 👍🏾
Oh Dios mío!!! Es el señor Joe Gilder!!!
In the end it's all one's and zero's.
STUDIO ONE for the KNOCKOUT! 😁
Come on Joe... spill the tea... is PreSonus working on Atmos right now?
I use both, Pro Tools since 1991 and Studio One last couple years.
What I hate about Pro Tools is the constantly seconds freeze when moving around while playing a session (Trying plugins, etc.). Basically you have to stop playing the timeline, to be able to change anything. Studio One manages this much better. Everything loads faster.
Hi Joe, I have a question... I bought a presonnus 1824c and I got Studio one artist 5 free as a bonus. Now that Stodio one 6 is out can I update my DAW to studio one artist 6 for free with the product key? Thank you in advance
Not Joe, and I don't know if this answers your question. I started on Studio One 6.0 Artist a few months ago when I got a new Presonus Studio 68c interface. My S1 DAW recently updated free to version 6.1.
Try looking at Studio One in the top menu. I think it's the help option, and check for update. See what it gets you.
@@DeltaWhiskeyBravo13579 thank you!
thanks to your vids im full studio one. i should of went with studio one from the beginning. and true pt is standard and only standard. studio one is best
You dont need PT in the industry...unless you work under a studio...if you paying to use their studio, you can hook S1 to their music system.
I HAVE MY OWN STUDIO AND RECORD ALOT OF ARTIST SINCE 2000. 🙌🏿🔥
I’ve used a lot of DAWs and music software and I had never even heard of Studio One until this video. I kinda feel that the best DAW is the one that you already own and know how to use. For me that is Logic. Logic is not just the best music software I have ever used, it is the best software, period. But I’ll always keep an open mind….
Started on Sonar and been using Reaper for several years.
Tried Pro Tools a few months ago, and the whole experience was a massive headache.
Picked up Studio One a few weeks ago, and already feel pretty much at home.
Even the argument “you ought to own ProTools as a working engineer” (not that it’s Joe’s main argument here) has lost a bit of weight through the years. As a former primary ProTools user, one of my main reasons for switching to Studio One was the ability to use ProTools (or many other DAW’s) key commands. This enables me to stay practiced up on my ProTools commands when I go back to ProTools for contract work at another studio. My only gripe, if you can even call it that, with SO is that it is so focused on developing music production improvements, it sometimes feels like they’re lagging on basic audio/mixing improvements. It honestly gets obnoxious to me, as a working engineer. That said, still my favorite - LOVE THE MACROS.
Mixing what? Compared to PT?...because i hate PT
@@LossLeadas Really, I was more referring to audio editing. The waveform editing in Studio One, while improved over the years, has yet to catch up to PT. But that said, it’s working fine for me these days. They improved the waveform graphics (still not perfect, but tolerable), and more of the basic functions are there, enabling you to edit clips to a zero line, rather than always crossfade, for example. Just for the working engineer, who has to do basic audio editing, these very basic, sort of core audio tasks, are… honestly neglected a bit.
@@audioglenngineer basic functions like what?
@@audioglenngineer you can edit clips in S1 6 in many ways even multitasking....huge when i mixing over 30 tracks
@@audioglenngineer yes really!!! lol..i dont like pro tools most people use it to say they use something so call industry standard a bunch of followers...im nice with all daws
Presonus Studio One's Mix Channel puts Studio One on another Level. No other DAW does this. I can't mix without it
i Married Studio One , Then Cheated with Protools, apologized and ran back to Studio One. I still cheat time to time with PT. Studio one, She was a Complete babe. Peace of mind, always going above and beyond. But that Protools was a wild night. She was the Industry Hoe. So much stress but she was the industry Hoe. She works but won't do nothing more. Studio One is insane. Project arrangement, mastering portion, You can even do scrap mixes in a mix, like what! Routing is like the best part about protools. Use both mehn this is 2023. Use both,
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Cakewalk, baby!
Reaper for me!
What about s1 latency?
I know you were pontificating a little on the art over the tool and Joni Mitchell agreed as well: "My microphone simply amplifies what I bring to the studio". The tools are what amplifies the artistry but it never "makes" the artist.