The Challenger makes me wonder why anyone would blow money on an HD. It's superior in a majority of categories. With HD, you're 100% paying for the name
With HD, there is a massive aftermarket, almost complete rebuild-ability and value retention over time. The only issue is can Indian sell enough of these. Competing in the same space is great, but is it worth switching for something that doesn't have good aftermarket support or a dealer network? Almost all Indians look better than HDs on paper, but so did Victory. From experience of owning and riding both HDs and Indians, HDs feel more solid and substantial. My Road King Special handles incredibly well for a touring bike and leans more than the Low Rider S. Where Indians shine is how they carry their weight and that extra bit of power from the 108. I personally prefer an air cooled big twin from Harley, but I will never rule out Indians. With right machines and right marketing will continue to push HD.
@@semperfipar1299 I don't disagree. Parts and service will be an issue over time though. I seriously considered buying a Victory but didn't because of lack of parts and service where I live. Victories are truly amazing bikes. I still think Polaris made a huge mistake by canceling the line.
@@Anton_G_604 You can still order any factory parts from Polaris and I do my own wrenching so service is not a problem for me. If it is stock then there is no service required other than oil changes and tire changes. Most bike shops can repair and replace parts.
@@Anton_G_604 so basically, you’re paying top dollar for a cruiser, then have to pour even more money into just to make it what it was supposed to be stock?
I actually like the look of the Pursuit better than the Challenger ... This is a first for me, I always like the bagger version better. ..oh damn! I hope I haven't just crossed some kind of age line 🤔
Ever since seeing the challenger and sitting on it at the NEC this year, Idian bikes have gotten right under my skin. I have no idea why. I am a triumph adventure bike rider, but I really want a big Indian as well now. Great videos buddy. 🙂👊
OMG. I'm only 5 minutes into the video, and I'm in shock at how many amazing features this Indian Pursuit has. This is by far the coolest V-Twin long distance touring bike I've ever seen. Looking at all the features, this bike is really in a class of its own for fully dressed classic "bagger" cruisers. They literally made the bike more powerful and better in every single way, and didn't cut a single corner. This is a proper build. This bike should do for Indian, what the Harley Pan America did for Harley. This Indian Pursuit is simply the best classic bagger out on the market today. They managed to create something that is visually stunning, modern, and yet "classic." It feels like an impossible achievement.
I just called my local metric dealer, and asked him (in voice mail...) no BEGGED him to consider becoming an Indian Dealer in my area. If he did...I'd be the first one to plop down for a 2022 Metallic Blue Limited Premium Package. This bike will feature/style/tech decimate all competition....and I mean Harley/Honda/Yamaha, Kawasaki/BMW....this bike will ride right over their Full Tour offerings...hand's down....
Great video! Super informative and entertaining as always MOTOBOB! I think Indian Motorcycle should fly you to the states and have you do a trip on the Pursuit so you can review it for us!
Haha I wish dude! But I believe they're getting a UK press bike so I'll definitely try to get a few days on that. And they're lending me an FTR Rally long-termer this year so can't complain :) They're a good bunch!
Indian are you listening. We want a 750 Adventure bike. FTR frame, but slightly off roadable. All of us who bought a RE himalayan want something bigger, but not a Pan America. If it's not light, it's not right. If you build it, they will sell.
When I look at the HD line up this is what I wanted to see. Once again HD is being outclassed by a competitor that is offering more for the money. I just wish it was from a company that didn’t have a history of leaving its customers high and dry without notice. Indian pulled out of two nearby dealerships without a word taking their authorized service with them. Now the only place left to get warranty work is two hours away.
It is a shame you feel that way overall. The Sportster S and Pan America are internationally competitive and do outclass Indian with those bikes. From Australia the price of the Indian Scout can't be justified against the Sportster S (an 18% saving on the Scout with simple ABS compared to the tech package and 20% added power on the HD?). I admit that the FTR Carbon is a great bike that is the near paper equivalent of the Sportster S, but they are a different ride style so although the specs match they don't closely compete in the market. The Pan America is competitive with high end ADV tourers across the category. Having said that, I would buy the Challenger over the Road Glide on any given day. I bought the Sportster S on spec two days after the announcement (after a year of looking at the Scout and Rebel- I had settled on the Rebel) but would still buy the Challenger over the Road Glide. HD is on the right path but I think the heavy tourers will need to up the engine to at least 1700cc before release. I actually see a return of the discontinued Sport Glide with the 1250 Rev Max as a light tourer first. I think it will be before November and that will knock Indian back a bit. I fully expected Indian to capitalise on the Powerplus with naked cruisers by now. They left a huge hole for HD to beat them to the punch.
Every since I test rode the Challenger I've wanted to see a touring version of it, glad to see Indian finally is making one! I'm going to have to test ride this bike ASAP.
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If all I did was have to go Apple...from my Samsung...well, so be it...I won't cut off my nose to spite my face, and NOT own this simply outstanding ride...just because, it does not support at this time, Android...hell, I would be riding...and not talking...
For me, the power difference between my RG Limited and the Challenger is a non issue since a stage 2 on my bike would equal out to Indian’s power plant. I I came from an FTR and parts of me do miss every bit of it and loads of me is attracted to the Challenger. I almost bought the Challenger instead of the RG Limited. What makes me the most jealous of the Pursuit is the suspension and braking. It’s a MASSIVE cost to put that level of suspension and braking on my RG. The cheapest direct bolt on inverted front suspension is 4 grand and to upgrade to radially mounted brakes would be another ~$1,600. Basically, a ~$2,000 stage 2, ~$5,500 suspension upgrade, and a ~$1,600 brake upgrade to get the same kind of things the Pursuit has stock. It also doesn’t help that since November, I’ve had to get 3 warranty repairs done on my RG over 5 different trips to the dealer, and 2 weeks total of being in the shop. If this continues, I’ll be VERY tempted to lemon law my RG, get the money I invested back, and go back to Indian.
The point is that you would have to put in a stage 2 and the Indian already has it. One of the biggest Achilles heels with a Harley is that they have always been underpowered. Just about every other brand out there puts out more power for approximately the same money, but the Harley argument has always been that, "Ill put a stage 2 or 3 in it" without even thinking about how much it will cost to do so. Many guys even say, "I do it myself and will save a ton of cash", which is comical to me. Harley should be using dual front disc brakes as standard and Its mind boggling that they dont. Electronic suspension? Not on a Harley... "Lets spend x more thousands to fix the suspension..." I have had MANY new bikes and the Harleys were the only bikes IU have ever had problems with. I just picked up a 2019 Fat Boy 114 and so far so good. However, no bike is perfect but this one suits my needs.
I always liked the look of the Challenger but thought the fairing was simply too big... it works *so* much better on the Pursuit though, especially with those lower fairings.
Do bike like this have a reverse gear? Coz I would imagine it to be really hard to move the bike out of a parking space be it by side straddling or duck paddling it
Liquid cooled engine should be a lot smoother ,vibration free bike to ride. If you were in the market for a grand tourer, you'd have to give it serious consideration just based on those stats.
I might consider trading in My Indian Roadmaster on this bike if it came with a proper old school Indian Fender!! To me that is so beautiful and at least Half of the reason to own an Indian that fender is Beautiful and one of a kind!!
I know of five long time (I'd only ride a Harley...for that is a 'real bike'...guys...) that are salivating over the Indian Pursuit Limited Premium....and two are talking jumping the Harley 'ship' already....and, I predict that within two years...both the EVO Road Glide, Unlimited, and standard Road Glide will have some deep price (factory incentive) price reductions....yep, that's what I predict, and ONLY because of this one bike out there...from ANY manufacturer!
Excellent overall review! The Pursuit appears to definitely be a winner. Our local dealer has one arriving any day now. Can’t wait to see it. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on so many different bikes.
I have all of this on my Indian challenger the pursuit looks just like the challenger I built for touring, and now they’ve add electronic suspension, heated seat as well as crash bars, and on the highway you have that mono shock and the inverted fork performance bagger, easy on your body heated grips& the top case as soon as I got the challenger I had to have it my helmet is a 3x fits easily powerlocks and has speakers in the upper box of my challenger, they should have named it the challenger tour though cause it’s the same bike as the challenger, liquid cooled and it flies the pursuit indian needed this to be competitive in the touring department a liquid cooled performance bagger that you can run fast and enjoy the comforts of being smooth at the same time I also like the new colors indian has to have more colors, indian start noticing challenger bike owners ordering top cases for their bikes, and lowers for Their challengers,
"Oh..that can prove deadly to your wallet or savings account...for I fear for myself...one test ride...one hour of gawking and walking and squatting looking at the bike...and I'd be done like dinner..."where's the Sale's Manager's Office? ".... Be careful (LOL) of that test ride....lol!
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Yeah... Indian in the last couple of years has been coming out with banger after banger. Harley might have the "heritage" for those who care, but if you want to ride a future classic American V-Twin, you're riding an Indian. /end _unpopular opinion_
I’ll be honest as a filthy european I always found the Harley style batwing fairing extremely ugly. Yet somehow I really like this bike. It’s like Indian designers can’t do bad. Sad that they are so costly here (not worth their price, I rather get a multristada V4 for this money)
The fairing and looks of the Pursuit will like the Challenger divide opinion, you will either love it or hate it , interesting to note in the report is that the video from Indian shows the Pursuit in Red/Black Two Tone , Blue and Black yet at the end of the report you tell us it's only available (in UK) in either Black Metallic or Alumina Jade Smoke or in Dark Horse spec Black Smoke, Silver Quartz or Quartz Grey, so what happened to the two tone Red/Black and Blue paint options ?
I'm keeping my 2020 Limited and adding the top case. I actually dont want the hard lowers. I have the soft lowers. The heat that comes out of that radiator is substantial, but very tolerable with wide open air flow. I'm all set with the electronic rear suspension. just more to go wrong. I'd be happy with a Challenger with no ride command.
It just looks like a supped up Challenger to me 🤔. Any who, the Challenger is still my go to bike. Now if I know that I’d be traveling long distance, let’s say from here, (Florida) to Texas to visit family, then maybe. Now are you able to remove the trunk from the bike 🤔. If so, I could definitely see myself buying one. It’s nice to have that option. I’am hoping to buy my first bike this Summer.
Can the ABS be turned off, like i could do on my moto guzzi norge. so I would actually have conventional breaking on the unexpected snow squall, or which happened to me, a downhill gravel covered road on my BMW K 1200 LT. When I tapped the brakes to maintain my descent on that gravel road, to my surprise, I had no brakes front or rear. For about 200 feet of descent on that gravel covered steep road, I was picking up speed on my almost 900 pound BMW with a 90° corner I was not going to be able to make at the bottom of the hill… I was very lucky that about 20 feet into the grass straightahead at the bottom of the hill was a cyclone fence around a salvage yard. I ran into that fence with my front wheel of my BMW to stop. The only damage I sustained was a broken front fender. I got rid of that bike immediately after that and bought the Moto Guzzi Norge because it had ABS that could be turned off in that situation. personally after more than five decades behind bars, six road racing championships, two National championships road racing, tire test rider for continental,108 motorcycles so far, I think ABS brakes are for idiots, beginners, to give them a False sense of security… better training and stricter testing to get the license would be a better solution than ABS brakes on vehicles with a single front wheel.. In my experience, I have found that the letters ABS Stand for, all breaking stops.. Think about it. You’re in the rain, a deer runs out in front of you, I have hit two of them while riding my motorcycles, but you nailed the brakes instinctively, and the brakes don’t work because they detect a little bit of wheel slippage.. let’s say you have a motorcycle like a V Strom 1000, and you are doing some back road traveling on dirt and gravel roads. You have ABS brakes, you’re going down a muddy back road dissent. You touch the brakes, the ABS detects that the surface is somewhat slippery, and rather than you being able to modulate and compensate for a little bit of slippage, you have no breaks at all.. I had a Suzuki V Strom 1000, it did not have ABS. I wanted to buy a new one, but it had ABS that could not be turned off. So I passed on that machine.. I would have bought that machine, and I wanted to see if the ABS system could be disarmed for off-road riding
The 2022 Indian Pursuit Limited Premium, is the new and true KING of the touring heap...a real Harley Davidson Road Glide Limited 'shot to the temple'....a true Road Glide 'kill shot'....
I have a golwing 2021. Unhappy with the seat and the reduced luggage capacity. I been a goldwing rider since high school 1980. I rode harleys during the era of golwing 1500 as I worked for the company. I then returned to the 1800 and rode it for 12 years. I thought I would up grade to a new 2021. While it is a great machine and handles way better than previous model, it mean next to nothing to me when all I want to do is pull over and rest my bum. I am looking hard at all others and with liquid cooling the pusuit is really taking my attention. Its the bike harley should of made long ago instead of v rod. I am going to ride this pursuit. This may be the vest of all worlds. American icon, liquid cooled, infotainment and decent luggage capacity. It cant be any less comfortable than goldwing. I just spent 2k on utimate seat and am very hot under the collar to the point I'm jumping ship! Well done HONDA!
I loved my Indian, until I had problems with it. The Polaris customer service will NOT stand behind their three year factory warranty. I have had electrical problems since the first year. It is sitting in my driveway as I ride my Street Glide, everyday. I will never buy another Indian. NEVER
I have a roadmaster icon that I love buy I ordered a deepwater blue pursuit limited last week and I am very excited for it to get here. Love my Indians
Here's a brief clip by the Indian channel of the "Power Plus" 108 cubic engine. Why they use cubic inches, I'll never know, since nobody ever uses "Cubic Inches" unless they are a dedicated, life long Harley rider. The reason I'm posting this is because this is a Mandela Effect for me. I've never heard of this. I've watched videos and reviews on all Indian motorcycles for years and years, and today is the very first time I've heard of this "Power Plus," 122 HP 128 Ft. Lbs torque, engine. I am really dumbfounded, because this engine has apparently been around for a couple years at least. It's my favorite Indian engine by far. ruclips.net/video/9EGFk7RybH0/видео.html
looks great might be better than harley . people dont kid your self . if your going to put on lots of miles . get the goldwing . dont let a group of people pick your ride for you . test them all . let the best bike win .
Est 1903, not. Indian has been in and out of business more times than I can recall. Polaris revived Indian in 2011, in the meantime their Victory line went out of business. The Indian has some of the line's of the defunct Victory. Polaris is owed by a Canadian Corp. American?
Seriously dude? Harley has 3 factories in the USA. ALSO, factories in Brazil, Thailand, and India. Don't ever throw stones unless you’re willing to receive a brick a brink in your face.
Different perspective here. I am from the school where more products from the leading American Motorcycle company is good for us and the competition. I love the new Indian Pursuit. Not ecstatic about the name but the bike, options, and color selections are wayyyyyyy better then HD Road Glide Limited and the 2022 Road Glide CVO--which by the way does NOT include a trunk….and the Pursuit is less pricey than the CVO. I will surely be waiting for them to drop at the dealer….my 21 Challenger may be for sale….who knows. YOLOnce.
Great for trans continental touring, but for a quick blat after work, nah ,way overkill. I'll keep my super chief limited for nz roads and hire the pursuit for a bucket list roady in the states. We'll done indian
When, oh freaking when is Polaris going to update the top case for their motorcycles. Come on, On Road Team, I know some of you are sick and tired of that top case. At least change up the look if nothing else. Have Industrial Design in Medina do something about it. Please.
Looks like a great bike but more than what I want to spend for two wheels. Really like my Kawasaki Voyager 1700 not all the bells and whistles but I don't need all that. Great video
I forgot to add that I like the fork mounted faing bike as well and feel that Indian should offer the liquid cooled engine here as well along side the Thunderstroke. I would likely buy it over the pursuit as I rode many hd classics. I will take H2o allday everyday.
i was a fan of the Challenger for quite a while now, but i missed the top case for the comfort of my girlfriend ... now this is pure porn on wheels :D love love love
I own 2 Harleys, you’re fooling yourself. Go test ride one like I have (Challenger, stock). The Stock Challenger blows the fairing off of my 21 SG Special 114 with S&S Cam and 2 into 1 pro pipe dyno’d. Seriously, stop hating
@@likebikes302 I have rode 2 Challegers and not disputing they are quicker than my 2019 RGS, its just the way the figures are quoted here are not at the same place. Check online, most stock challengers put out 108 on the dyno where as a stock 114 RGS is 86. So not a hater, just disagreeing with this RUclips giving misleading information
Rented a Challenger and hated it. It was like riding a Crack head. Twitchy and hard to control. Glad to hear they have tuned the Pursuit for slower speed work. Rented a Roadmaster for a trip from Ft. Meyers to Key West...fabulous bike easy to ride and control. Blew the Harley Ultra out of the water. I have Rented a BMW Grand America and loved, loved that bike. You can do 12 hours on that bike and wish you didn't need to stop and sleep. I have sadly not been able to rent a Gold Wing.
@thestcroixkid tough choice, love them both. Love the Roadmaster big twin style and ease of use. But that Grand America with it's clutchless shift was so fast and so smooth, it lacked an exhaust note, So it had little personality. One of each?
The Challenger makes me wonder why anyone would blow money on an HD. It's superior in a majority of categories. With HD, you're 100% paying for the name
With HD, there is a massive aftermarket, almost complete rebuild-ability and value retention over time. The only issue is can Indian sell enough of these. Competing in the same space is great, but is it worth switching for something that doesn't have good aftermarket support or a dealer network? Almost all Indians look better than HDs on paper, but so did Victory. From experience of owning and riding both HDs and Indians, HDs feel more solid and substantial. My Road King Special handles incredibly well for a touring bike and leans more than the Low Rider S. Where Indians shine is how they carry their weight and that extra bit of power from the 108. I personally prefer an air cooled big twin from Harley, but I will never rule out Indians. With right machines and right marketing will continue to push HD.
@@Anton_G_604 A Victory is still a better bike than a brand new Harley.
@@semperfipar1299 I don't disagree. Parts and service will be an issue over time though. I seriously considered buying a Victory but didn't because of lack of parts and service where I live. Victories are truly amazing bikes. I still think Polaris made a huge mistake by canceling the line.
@@Anton_G_604 You can still order any factory parts from Polaris and I do my own wrenching so service is not a problem for me. If it is stock then there is no service required other than oil changes and tire changes. Most bike shops can repair and replace parts.
@@Anton_G_604 so basically, you’re paying top dollar for a cruiser, then have to pour even more money into just to make it what it was supposed to be stock?
I actually like the look of the Pursuit better than the Challenger ... This is a first for me, I always like the bagger version better. ..oh damn! I hope I haven't just crossed some kind of age line 🤔
Ever since seeing the challenger and sitting on it at the NEC this year, Idian bikes have gotten right under my skin. I have no idea why. I am a triumph adventure bike rider, but I really want a big Indian as well now. Great videos buddy. 🙂👊
Great bike good ride, still learning!
Where is the powetplus model 108 w just a windshield. No batwing fairing!!???
OMG. I'm only 5 minutes into the video, and I'm in shock at how many amazing features this Indian Pursuit has.
This is by far the coolest V-Twin long distance touring bike I've ever seen. Looking at all the features, this bike is really in a class of its own for fully dressed classic "bagger" cruisers.
They literally made the bike more powerful and better in every single way, and didn't cut a single corner. This is a proper build.
This bike should do for Indian, what the Harley Pan America did for Harley. This Indian Pursuit is simply the best classic bagger out on the market today.
They managed to create something that is visually stunning, modern, and yet "classic." It feels like an impossible achievement.
I just called my local metric dealer, and asked him (in voice mail...) no BEGGED him to consider becoming an Indian Dealer in my area. If he did...I'd be the first one to plop down for a 2022 Metallic Blue Limited Premium Package. This bike will feature/style/tech decimate all competition....and I mean Harley/Honda/Yamaha, Kawasaki/BMW....this bike will ride right over their Full Tour offerings...hand's down....
just like a harley but better
Great video! Super informative and entertaining as always MOTOBOB! I think Indian Motorcycle should fly you to the states and have you do a trip on the Pursuit so you can review it for us!
Haha I wish dude! But I believe they're getting a UK press bike so I'll definitely try to get a few days on that. And they're lending me an FTR Rally long-termer this year so can't complain :) They're a good bunch!
@@motobob …. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts on the FTR!
Could this be Polaris’ return to the Police market after pulling Victory away?
Indian are you listening. We want a 750 Adventure bike. FTR frame, but slightly off roadable. All of us who bought a RE himalayan want something bigger, but not a Pan America. If it's not light, it's not right. If you build it, they will sell.
That would be an Indian that we could afford. The pursuit is the price of a truck. I'll buy the truck first.
Love those Indian motorcycles!
They just keep getting better and better!
me, who just wanted a non-fixed fairing bike that doesn’t cost as much as a car: :(
Go used. You can make it happen.
When I look at the HD line up this is what I wanted to see. Once again HD is being outclassed by a competitor that is offering more for the money. I just wish it was from a company that didn’t have a history of leaving its customers high and dry without notice. Indian pulled out of two nearby dealerships without a word taking their authorized service with them. Now the only place left to get warranty work is two hours away.
It is a shame you feel that way overall. The Sportster S and Pan America are internationally competitive and do outclass Indian with those bikes. From Australia the price of the Indian Scout can't be justified against the Sportster S (an 18% saving on the Scout with simple ABS compared to the tech package and 20% added power on the HD?). I admit that the FTR Carbon is a great bike that is the near paper equivalent of the Sportster S, but they are a different ride style so although the specs match they don't closely compete in the market. The Pan America is competitive with high end ADV tourers across the category. Having said that, I would buy the Challenger over the Road Glide on any given day. I bought the Sportster S on spec two days after the announcement (after a year of looking at the Scout and Rebel- I had settled on the Rebel) but would still buy the Challenger over the Road Glide. HD is on the right path but I think the heavy tourers will need to up the engine to at least 1700cc before release. I actually see a return of the discontinued Sport Glide with the 1250 Rev Max as a light tourer first. I think it will be before November and that will knock Indian back a bit. I fully expected Indian to capitalise on the Powerplus with naked cruisers by now. They left a huge hole for HD to beat them to the punch.
So close of a ride, I'm 7 hrs away.
Harley pulls franchises every year no matter how loyal they have been.
Every since I test rode the Challenger I've wanted to see a touring version of it, glad to see Indian finally is making one! I'm going to have to test ride this bike ASAP.
basically a coupe without doors and missing two wheels 😋. I love it
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No android auto is the deal breaker for me even though I really want the pursuit I absolutely cannot justify it without android auto.
If all I did was have to go Apple...from my Samsung...well, so be it...I won't cut off my nose to spite my face, and NOT own this simply outstanding ride...just because, it does not support at this time, Android...hell, I would be riding...and not talking...
I think the name ( Pursuit ) and letter styling is hideous on it. It doesn't flow with the bike at all.
For me, the power difference between my RG Limited and the Challenger is a non issue since a stage 2 on my bike would equal out to Indian’s power plant. I I came from an FTR and parts of me do miss every bit of it and loads of me is attracted to the Challenger. I almost bought the Challenger instead of the RG Limited.
What makes me the most jealous of the Pursuit is the suspension and braking. It’s a MASSIVE cost to put that level of suspension and braking on my RG. The cheapest direct bolt on inverted front suspension is 4 grand and to upgrade to radially mounted brakes would be another ~$1,600.
Basically, a ~$2,000 stage 2, ~$5,500 suspension upgrade, and a ~$1,600 brake upgrade to get the same kind of things the Pursuit has stock. It also doesn’t help that since November, I’ve had to get 3 warranty repairs done on my RG over 5 different trips to the dealer, and 2 weeks total of being in the shop.
If this continues, I’ll be VERY tempted to lemon law my RG, get the money I invested back, and go back to Indian.
The point is that you would have to put in a stage 2 and the Indian already has it. One of the biggest Achilles heels with a Harley is that they have always been underpowered. Just about every other brand out there puts out more power for approximately the same money, but the Harley argument has always been that, "Ill put a stage 2 or 3 in it" without even thinking about how much it will cost to do so. Many guys even say, "I do it myself and will save a ton of cash", which is comical to me.
Harley should be using dual front disc brakes as standard and Its mind boggling that they dont. Electronic suspension? Not on a Harley... "Lets spend x more thousands to fix the suspension..."
I have had MANY new bikes and the Harleys were the only bikes IU have ever had problems with. I just picked up a 2019 Fat Boy 114 and so far so good. However, no bike is perfect but this one suits my needs.
Great video. Makes me appreciate my Honda Goldwing DCT even more.
Love that DCT
I always liked the look of the Challenger but thought the fairing was simply too big... it works *so* much better on the Pursuit though, especially with those lower fairings.
I like my Kawasaki !700 voyager most reliable tour bike. From 2009 till 2022 they havent changed the bike because its that good
Do bike like this have a reverse gear? Coz I would imagine it to be really hard to move the bike out of a parking space be it by side straddling or duck paddling it
That kills it for me. I’ve been is situations with my Goldwing where I was really grateful to have reverse.
And no, the Indians don’t have reverse
Liquid cooled engine should be a lot smoother ,vibration free bike to ride. If you were in the market for a grand tourer, you'd have to give it serious consideration just based on those stats.
I might consider trading in My Indian Roadmaster on this bike if it came with a proper old school Indian Fender!! To me that is so beautiful and at least Half of the reason to own an Indian that fender is Beautiful and one of a kind!!
They should add a DCT option like the Goldwing. This thing would sell like crazy. Good looking bike.
At this point 2022 the lack of Android phone support is ridiculous !!! Harley did the same friggin thing only Apple support.
That's a nice bike but they went in the wrong direction. We want a version of the Challenger with LESS stuff on it.
Looks like a sweet ride. I have a 37 year-old Goldwing I can still get parts for. I wonder if that will be the case for the Indian.
I know of five long time (I'd only ride a Harley...for that is a 'real bike'...guys...) that are salivating over the Indian Pursuit Limited Premium....and two are talking jumping the Harley 'ship' already....and, I predict that within two years...both the EVO Road Glide, Unlimited, and standard Road Glide will have some deep price (factory incentive) price reductions....yep, that's what I predict, and ONLY because of this one bike out there...from ANY manufacturer!
Excellent overall review! The Pursuit appears to definitely be a winner. Our local dealer has one arriving any day now. Can’t wait to see it. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on so many different bikes.
It’s an American company so use the imperial units when talking numbers.
I've gotten so much hate in video comments simply showing comparison features and specs between indian and Harley its hilarious.
I find all the new bikes with TFT screens and internet connectivity too distractingly. Playing with that stuff while riding will get you hurt.
I have all of this on my Indian challenger the pursuit looks just like the challenger I built for touring, and now they’ve add electronic suspension, heated seat as well as crash bars, and on the highway you have that mono shock and the inverted fork performance bagger, easy on your body heated grips& the top case as soon as I got the challenger I had to have it my helmet is a 3x fits easily powerlocks and has speakers in the upper box of my challenger, they should have named it the challenger tour though cause it’s the same bike as the challenger, liquid cooled and it flies the pursuit indian needed this to be competitive in the touring department a liquid cooled performance bagger that you can run fast and enjoy the comforts of being smooth at the same time I also like the new colors indian has to have more colors, indian start noticing challenger bike owners ordering top cases for their bikes, and lowers for Their challengers,
The most technologically advanced Cruiser is 2022 BMW K1600 Grand America & Honda Goldwing
Are they American made? If not, not interested
I have a 2015 Roadmaster and I love it, but if i could afford it I would be putting my name down for one of the Pursuits NOW!!.
the bike sounds promising and looks amazing. that PURSUIT badge though... looks like a after thought.
Yeah...the font style should have matched the Indian script on the tank.
Agreed, that'll be the first thing to go when mine arrives
Clear is the best bagger out there 🙌👏👏👏
Excellent review again, so in depth, gonna love test riding one of these when i can to see how they handle.
"Oh..that can prove deadly to your wallet or savings account...for I fear for myself...one test ride...one hour of gawking and walking and squatting looking at the bike...and I'd be done like dinner..."where's the Sale's Manager's Office? ".... Be careful (LOL) of that test ride....lol!
Yeah... Indian in the last couple of years has been coming out with banger after banger. Harley might have the "heritage" for those who care, but if you want to ride a future classic American V-Twin, you're riding an Indian.
/end _unpopular opinion_
Would like to see this compared to BMW K1600 Grand America which I think with the goldwing is it's main competition
Oh Dear , this might make the H.D salesmen , very concerned
I’ll be honest as a filthy european I always found the Harley style batwing fairing extremely ugly.
Yet somehow I really like this bike. It’s like Indian designers can’t do bad. Sad that they are so costly here (not worth their price, I rather get a multristada V4 for this money)
No android auto in very stupid choice
My Victory XC stays in the garage. I was hoping the Pursuit would resemble the Victory in some form, but it does not.
I've been waiting for this bike. Perhaps I will be selling my Victory Vision. I do dig the electronic controlled windshield, it's awesome 👍
Im doing the same thing, my vision has treated me great!, my pursuit i ordered will be here in a couple months hopefully!
@@curtisvandersluis8102 awesome what color?
@@I_am_archie the quartz grey or whatever its called
Hmm, I'm not a Honda man but I'd take the GoldWing over this if we're In the market for a Grand Tourer.
The front susp., dct & reverse hard to beat!
The fairing and looks of the Pursuit will like the Challenger divide opinion, you will either love it or hate it , interesting to note in the report is that the video from Indian shows the Pursuit in Red/Black Two Tone , Blue and Black yet at the end of the report you tell us it's only available (in UK) in either Black Metallic or Alumina Jade Smoke or in Dark Horse spec Black Smoke, Silver Quartz or Quartz Grey, so what happened to the two tone Red/Black and Blue paint options ?
I’ve looked at the American webpage. The colours Bob is describing are for dark horse. The other colours are for limited and limited+premium
I'm keeping my 2020 Limited and adding the top case. I actually dont want the hard lowers. I have the soft lowers. The heat that comes out of that radiator is substantial, but very tolerable with wide open air flow. I'm all set with the electronic rear suspension. just more to go wrong. I'd be happy with a Challenger with no ride command.
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It just looks like a supped up Challenger to me 🤔. Any who, the Challenger is still my go to bike. Now if I know that I’d be traveling long distance, let’s say from here, (Florida) to Texas to visit family, then maybe. Now are you able to remove the trunk from the bike 🤔. If so, I could definitely see myself buying one. It’s nice to have that option. I’am hoping to buy my first bike this Summer.
Can the ABS be turned off, like i could do on my moto guzzi norge. so I would actually have conventional breaking on the unexpected snow squall, or which happened to me, a downhill gravel covered road on my BMW K 1200 LT. When I tapped the brakes to maintain my descent on that gravel road, to my surprise, I had no brakes front or rear. For about 200 feet of descent on that gravel covered steep road, I was picking up speed on my almost 900 pound BMW with a 90° corner I was not going to be able to make at the bottom of the hill… I was very lucky that about 20 feet into the grass straightahead at the bottom of the hill was a cyclone fence around a salvage yard. I ran into that fence with my front wheel of my BMW to stop. The only damage I sustained was a broken front fender. I got rid of that bike immediately after that and bought the Moto Guzzi Norge because it had ABS that could be turned off in that situation.
personally after more than five decades behind bars, six road racing championships, two National championships road racing, tire test rider for continental,108 motorcycles so far, I think ABS brakes are for idiots, beginners, to give them a False sense of security… better training and stricter testing to get the license would be a better solution than ABS brakes on vehicles with a single front wheel..
In my experience, I have found that the letters ABS Stand for, all breaking stops.. Think about it. You’re in the rain, a deer runs out in front of you, I have hit two of them while riding my motorcycles, but you nailed the brakes instinctively, and the brakes don’t work because they detect a little bit of wheel slippage..
let’s say you have a motorcycle like a V Strom 1000, and you are doing some back road traveling on dirt and gravel roads. You have ABS brakes, you’re going down a muddy back road dissent. You touch the brakes, the ABS detects that the surface is somewhat slippery, and rather than you being able to modulate and compensate for a little bit of slippage, you have no breaks at all..
I had a Suzuki V Strom 1000, it did not have ABS. I wanted to buy a new one, but it had ABS that could not be turned off. So I passed on that machine.. I would have bought that machine, and I wanted to see if the ABS system could be disarmed for off-road riding
Still no android auto, very frustrating to see that segment of the tech ignored with apple car play being accessible.
Bob the pursuit is a phenomenal bike can’t wait where in uk I can get one.
The 2022 Indian Pursuit Limited Premium, is the new and true KING of the touring heap...a real Harley Davidson Road Glide Limited 'shot to the temple'....a true Road Glide 'kill shot'....
I have a golwing 2021.
Unhappy with the seat and the reduced luggage capacity.
I been a goldwing rider since high school 1980.
I rode harleys during the era of golwing 1500 as I worked for the company. I then returned to the 1800 and rode it for 12 years.
I thought I would up grade to a new 2021. While it is a great machine and handles way better than previous model, it mean next to nothing to me when all I want to do is pull over and rest my bum.
I am looking hard at all others and with liquid cooling the pusuit is really taking my attention.
Its the bike harley should of made long ago instead of v rod.
I am going to ride this pursuit.
This may be the vest of all worlds.
American icon, liquid cooled, infotainment and decent luggage capacity. It cant be any less comfortable than goldwing.
I just spent 2k on utimate seat and am very hot under the collar to the point I'm jumping ship!
Well done HONDA!
That’s a rolling couch!!! 🛋 💨
I loved my Indian, until I had problems with it. The Polaris customer service will NOT stand behind their three year factory warranty. I have had electrical problems since the first year. It is sitting in my driveway as I ride my Street Glide, everyday. I will never buy another Indian. NEVER
I like everything except the choice of colors. Great video. 👏👏
Funny you keep saying "American" baggers blah blah blah. Your British bikes are junk!
Very nice presentation of the Pursuit. I didn't even know Indian made this thing. Great job. Keep 'em coming bro, keep 'em coming.
Fugly motorcycles. Why would anyone buy one cheap looking . Junk just like Polaris
Somebody should’ve told Indian that Mono-shocks suck for 2-up riding…
Sold Indian motorcycles for awhile. The challenger is a fantastic bike. This touring model has to be awesome.
Amazing cruiser! Great vid motobob 👍
The Indian Pursuit is the ultimate modern US tourer.
I have a roadmaster icon that I love buy I ordered a deepwater blue pursuit limited last week and I am very excited for it to get here. Love my Indians
You might want to add BMW K1600 grand America on the list
Oh man I’m up grading my scout to this pursuit. Or maybe give it to my brother and go purchase the pursuit
Loads of motorbike information, yet why do you sport that chezzy face fur?
Wish they would quit copying Harley. Do your own thing.
For 40 grand let me guess. No thanks!
over 400kgs.....better get the weights out
This is designed and even named after it's target market. Police bike, pretty bad ass
Here's a brief clip by the Indian channel of the "Power Plus" 108 cubic engine. Why they use cubic inches, I'll never know, since nobody ever uses "Cubic Inches" unless they are a dedicated, life long Harley rider. The reason I'm posting this is because this is a Mandela Effect for me. I've never heard of this. I've watched videos and reviews on all Indian motorcycles for years and years, and today is the very first time I've heard of this "Power Plus," 122 HP 128 Ft. Lbs torque, engine. I am really dumbfounded, because this engine has apparently been around for a couple years at least. It's my favorite Indian engine by far. ruclips.net/video/9EGFk7RybH0/видео.html
looks great might be better than harley . people dont kid your self . if your going to put on lots of miles . get the goldwing . dont let a group of people pick your ride for you . test them all . let the best bike win .
Est 1903, not. Indian has been in and out of business more times than I can recall.
Polaris revived Indian in 2011, in the meantime their Victory line went out of business.
The Indian has some of the line's of the defunct Victory.
Polaris is owed by a Canadian Corp.
American?
Seriously dude? Harley has 3 factories in the USA. ALSO, factories in Brazil, Thailand, and India. Don't ever throw stones unless you’re willing to receive a brick a brink in your face.
Wish they'd give these changes to the Roadmaster...
That pursuit logo is laughably bad ..😂😂
Un challenger équipé ...Bref, une grande attente pour pas grand chose ! Je suis très déçu ! Je garde mon Challenger et son GPS lamentable !
Different perspective here. I am from the school where more products from the leading American Motorcycle company is good for us and the competition. I love the new Indian Pursuit. Not ecstatic about the name but the bike, options, and color selections are wayyyyyyy better then HD Road Glide Limited and the 2022 Road Glide CVO--which by the way does NOT include a trunk….and the Pursuit is less pricey than the CVO. I will surely be waiting for them to drop at the dealer….my 21 Challenger may be for sale….who knows. YOLOnce.
The engine designed for the new Victory than never were...
Why no comparison with the K1600gtl??? It's got way more power, over 50kgs lighter and way better looking.
Great for trans continental touring, but for a quick blat after work, nah ,way overkill. I'll keep my super chief limited for nz roads and hire the pursuit for a bucket list roady in the states. We'll done indian
I like it. look out Harley you might get your rear kicked.
TBH, I'm just watching this to hear the announcement of how heavy this bugger is! HOW MUCH???
When, oh freaking when is Polaris going to update the top case for their motorcycles.
Come on, On Road Team, I know some of you are sick and tired of that top case. At least change up the look if nothing else. Have Industrial Design in Medina do something about it. Please.
Looks like a great bike but more than what I want to spend for two wheels. Really like my Kawasaki Voyager 1700 not all the bells and whistles but I don't need all that. Great video
I 1st. saw the prototype of this motor on a Victory CCT. Same forks and swingarm geometry too. Sweet bike ! Great vid!
Looks great.... If you live somewhere other than the UK and you have a spare £28k to throw at a bike that you wouldn't have as your only transport!
I forgot to add that I like the fork mounted faing bike as well and feel that Indian should offer the liquid cooled engine here as well along side the Thunderstroke.
I would likely buy it over the pursuit as I rode many hd classics.
I will take H2o allday everyday.
With all that distracting tech stuff why don’t you take a car. I much prefer more basic bikes.
It’s ugly like the road master
i was a fan of the Challenger for quite a while now, but i missed the top case for the comfort of my girlfriend ...
now this is pure porn on wheels :D love love love
Looks like Harley copy cats !
Typo accessories slide text 6:55
Misleading info, the Harley quoted figures are at rear wheel, the Indian at crank... BIG DIFFERENCE!
I own 2 Harleys, you’re fooling yourself. Go test ride one like I have (Challenger, stock). The Stock Challenger blows the fairing off of my 21 SG Special 114 with S&S Cam and 2 into 1 pro pipe dyno’d. Seriously, stop hating
@@likebikes302 I have rode 2 Challegers and not disputing they are quicker than my 2019 RGS, its just the way the figures are quoted here are not at the same place.
Check online, most stock challengers put out 108 on the dyno where as a stock 114 RGS is 86. So not a hater, just disagreeing with this RUclips giving misleading information
Road glide ultra limited........
I like the looks but Indian and Bankruptcy scare me even if new owners have the funds if it is not profitable scrap it
Nice
Rented a Challenger and hated it.
It was like riding a Crack head. Twitchy and hard to control.
Glad to hear they have tuned the Pursuit for slower speed work.
Rented a Roadmaster for a trip from Ft. Meyers to Key West...fabulous bike easy to ride and control. Blew the Harley Ultra out of the water.
I have Rented a BMW Grand America and loved, loved that bike. You can do 12 hours on that bike and wish you didn't need to stop and sleep.
I have sadly not been able to rent a Gold Wing.
I'm split between the Roadmaster and the Grand America, seeing the Pursuit makes me wish the Roadmaster had this motor...what do you choose?
@thestcroixkid tough choice, love them both.
Love the Roadmaster big twin style and ease of use.
But that Grand America with it's clutchless shift was so fast and so smooth, it lacked an exhaust note, So it had little personality.
One of each?