Fix your leaking toilet! American Standard Champion
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2023
- Leaking toilet? I show two ways to replace potential failed components on my American Standard Champion toilet. #diy #repair #toiletrepair
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Thanks for showing how to unscrew the flapper! You have the only youtube video I could find with my style of flapper
Glad it helped!
Same.
Same here
Also same man just saved the day for me
Same
Great Video. Precise and to the point. I'm a home improvement contractor and I know the difference. You even called the "air filled bladder" the correct name. Thanks for taking the time to make the video. I will definitely use your tips. Thank you again!
Thank you for watching
No idea you could unscrew and replace that flapper piece. You just saved me alot of time. Thanks so much!
Your welcome
Great instructional video. Your explanation will make the process of replacing the valve on my American standard toilet very easy, and I appreciate that. Thank you very much.
Glad it helped, they also started making the gasket only available for these amzn.to/3PoxyGF
@@TKCL Still having issues. Now the water keeps running more frequently. Any ideas?
@@moneymoneynow1CALL AMERICAN STANDARD. Their parts are guaranteed for TEN YEARS and will send you out replacement parts for free as long as you have registered your toilet(s). I own SIX Champion 4's.
We have a toilet that had a nagging leak a few years ago. I replaced the flapper several times and it still leaked. Old timer at the hardware store told me to apply a coating of Vaseline Petroleum Jelly on the bottom of the flapper where it contacts the opening it seals up. I was skeptical, but gave it a try. Toilet hasn't leaked yet. I did the same thing to our 2nd toilet and both my Mom's toilets when they started leaking, and it fixed those too.
Nice!
This is super simple, saved me some $$ too. Plummer told me it would 550 for a new toilet and to install it.
Thank you!
Wow that's crazy! For a few bucks you can fix this toilets only issue. I found just the seal here amzn.to/4aLKBKY
Great video! I too usually have no issue with DIY plumbing repair but American Standard had me stumped on this one! Thank you again you have the only video online that shows this!
Glad it was helpful!
Bless your heart!! Again, you are the only youtube video I could find with my style flapper, almost. Excellent job explaining the workings of a toilet for those slackers who don't bother anymore to figure it out.
Glad I could help!
Thanks so much for the video, these were the only instructions I could find for parts that didn't have the twistable part that removes from the top. Was able to fix our leaky toilet on my own. :)
Glad it was helpful
Oh my gosh. THANK YOU! All I needed to do was buy the replacement gasket. Thanks again for taking the time to do this video.
Your welcome
Thank you. I was pulling my hair out trying to figure out how to remove the top to replace the gasket without breaking anything based on other videos. This is the model flapper valve I have so your instructions were spot on. Thanks again.
Glad it was helpful
Thank you for the video Andrew. Hopefully it will help people to change out just the flapper
Thank you for watching
Just what the doctor ordered. Great video. Thank you so much for taking your time to process. Supremely help me out with an issue. I was having kudos to you brother.
Glad it was helpful
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!! Great video and I've been so frustrated by this valve and how to remove the seal to replace it. You save me a lot of work showing how it clicks and unscrews. Now I don't have to replace the whole assembly.
Glad it was helpful, they now sell just the seal on Amazon m
Awesome educational video. Thanks for sharing. 🤠
So much great information. You post the most informative videos.
Thank you for watching a rather odd video 🤣
Except he missed the most important part that the parts are guaranteed for 10 years and AS would have sent him the newxkit for free.
Hey just a comment I bought a Fluidmaster American standard Champion 4 seal for my grandpas toilet. Figured I didn’t have to spend the extra dough on the whole apparatus and so far so good. Great vid!
Great Instructional video!
Dude! Thanks so much for saving me time and money. Your super-comprehensive video and the excellent comments below helped me with 3 things. 1) How to fix the toilet. In my case, it is a leaky flapper 2) Do it for free by calling American Standard as the toilet is under warranty. I didn't save the receipt but the guy was nice enough to do a one-time courtesy shipment 3) Fix it temporarily while I'm waiting for the warranty item to arrive b applying Vaseline on the bottom of the flapper. That stopped the leak for now.
Such a great example of the RUclips community coming together to help each other out. I would've spent at least $40 on doing it myself and $100+ had I called a plumber.
Glad you enjoyed it and it was helpful
You saved me a ton of time trying to figure out how to get that flapper off so i could change the seal! Much appreciated!
Your welcome
Great video my man!....I went ahead and changed the whole unit....Your video made it a breeze!!!....Thanks you so much!!!!
So glad I could help! Take care.
I had the same issue , I registered my toilets and there is a 10 year warranty. I called them and they sent new revised seals and problem solved. The video is great as you need to know about the clicks on removal and reassembly.
Good video Andrew, Thanks!! 👍👍❤️❤️🇨🇦
Great instructions!
Damn fine video. Thank you. I have two of these toilets in service. One for about 5 or 6 years which has given me zero problems. One I installed a year and a half ago. That is now leaking but I don't know where. Doesn't appear to be the flapper but I'll replace it just to see. This showed me extremely well How to understand a flush valve from American standard Even though I've installed several of my own and repaired all of my own toilets for many many years. Thanks again!
Glad you enjoyed it
Great video. Thanks for showing how to remove the top piece on the flapper.
Glad you enjoyed it
Excellent video.
Watched your video very helpful. You can replace just the gasket which is likely the problem with the flapper. Saving you the cost of the full canister.
I found the gasket after making this video, thanks to a viewer. Ordered two of them, now my other toilet just started leaking 🙄
I have an older Champion 4 which I previously did battle with the part that screws into the flapper from the top. After conquering that technique, I replaced another toilet with a newer Champion 4. The new one started phantom flushing after a few months. I opened it up and was faced with a new flapper design. Your video really helped me conquer this one. The new design is an improvement over the older one, but that gray clip seems pretty flimsy. I think the next time I need to replace a toilet, it will not be a Champion 4.
You do a fantastic explanation on this…thank you..thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Wow thank you I have had this problem and didn't know how to fix this I'll give it a try thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
Good video. I have two of those getting close to a year old. That was helpful.
Thank you for watching
Huge help, thank you
Glad you found it useful.
Absolutely super video! I bought 4 yes four toilets because I was tired of the cheap flappers; I also heard good things about American Standard. Well, you are spot on. I changed the first one a year ago and did it the hard way. Slipped off the seal over the top. This time, I took off the entire drop-down flapper. So much faster!!! Some suggestions: take off the flush lever and use latex or rubber gloves, which allow a sure grip if you have a weak grip or a build-up of slime on the parts.
FYI they now make just a replacement seal that appears to be new and improved.
You just saved me a ton of time. Thank you
Glad it was helpful
The lock got me lol thanks for the video! You helped me fix my leak 😊
Glad I could help!
It's a shame things made now don't last longer. Good info, Andrew. Thank you!
Especially when you pay a premium for something.
@TKCL Agreed and sad, really. Good info on the fix, a shame the manufacturer doesn't acknowledge the issue. More money for them with a full replacement, though. .
Thanks man! Just fixed my flapper, appreciate it. 😊
Glad it helped!
Nice. Appreciate the info. Interesting 👍✌️
Thank you for watching
excellent video !!! I did not know that I could replace only the flapper!!!!
Check the video description, I found only the seal on Amazon saving more money.
Thanks for the hack, just what needed to know
Glad you enjoyed it
Good video...Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
Before replacing anything!
Remove flapper cover and make sure the gray ring that holds flapper right under green cover is secure, mine came loose from manufacturer and leaked. Thanks to this video I removed cover and found gray ring loose. Fixed my situation. Good luck people.
You saved me a ton of time and headache brother
Glad I could help
Great video. Once I got the flapper off, I found I could turn the bottom a quarter inch and pop the bottom off. That way you can just replace the seal and not have to buy the whole assembly.
Great video! Thanks. I’m having the same issue but I was able to get free replacement parts from American standard. I believe they have a lifetime warranty on the internals.
Your correct, they do.
thank you! i got the right part!!!
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you thank you!!
You are so welcome!
I feel your pain, I got tired with replacing toilet parts on these brands, so I switched to the TOTO Drake, that has the neat flush channel instead of holes. I have replaced 2 out of 5 in the house. The MSRP of the Toto Drake will give you a bit of sticker shock, but I have been watching the Amazon prices and have been saving around $100.
Great video. Our friends highly recommended this model. Ad said it could flush ten golf balls! I told my wife next time I accidentally swallow ten golf balls I know my toilet will handle it the next morning. Sadly, the toilet started leaking after six months. Thanks for the tutorial.
Thank you for watching
Same thing happened to me. You can replace just the faulty seal with Korky part number 450. Worked great.
I found it after this video amzn.to/3PoxyGF
Thank you.
Thank you for watching
Excellent Video what did was sucked out the remaining water in the tank with a shop vac
Mine was leaking from the flapper. Took it out and noticed the bottom part was loose and not pressing the seal firmly to the flapper body. Gave it a twist to tighten it up, reinstalled, and all is good. Thanks for the video
Thanks for sharing
Thank you!! I found a replacement flapper seal at HD but couldn’t figure out how to take off the green part.
I also discovered the flapper as well and had to repair our other toilet.
Gracias, gracias 😊
Thanks for the tip on the top screwing off if you hold the stem below. You can just buy a replacement gasket and replace once you take the cap off. The cap has a grey plastic large retaining ring that you can easily pry off and replace the underlying gasket
I recently found the gaskets.
Another thank you. I bought 2 of these toilets in 2022 and one is one is now cycling every 20 minutes or so. I couldn't see or hear any leaking but this is most likely the issue. reading in the comments, it sounds like Home Depot now has replacement gaskets or flappers in stock. I will have to check it out. Great helpful video.
Amazon now carries just the seal as well.
@@TKCL Got a link?
@@imsirius2Call AS. Parts are guaranteed for TEN YEARS. They'll send you free replacement.
man, thank you so much we have had ours for maybe 9 months i already replaced the entire flush valve once and its leaking again i took the silicone gasket off and were the bubbles were in it i just took a needle and poked a hole and water came out the gasket then flattened out i put it back on and no more "running" toilet will see how long it lasts.. i did order replacement seals just to have in case this does not last again thank you for the video this was the best instructional video i have found for the champion toilet
Your welcome! There are new green or blue seals now, I replaced them on both of our toilets and so far so good 🤞
The gasket is available separately Korky # 450 fits American standard champion and eljer titan
I found the new style after making this video.
Excellent job! Thank you so much!
I’m just going to replace the whole toilet. I’ve been through this before w this toilet. Do you recommend a better toilet?
Not offhand, but they do make a new and improved seal now. I'd try that before tossing the toilet. I love the power of this one.
Great video. FYI, Fluidmaster 510A-001 is the flush valve seal alone so you don't need to buy the whole assembly. 🙂
Correct, I found that later on and ordered it. I already had to replace the seal on my other toilet 🫤
Fluid master makes the seal for this toilet 😅😊
Hi, Andrew! I recently had to replace the flapper on my Crane toilet, and all I had to replace was just the flapper. I’m happy I don’t have American Standard.
That's the way it should be.
Excellent video. I had the flapper accidently come off. Not sure how. Home Depot couldn't figure the problem although I showed them the video. They sold me a 25 dollar kit which I luckily didn't install. All I had to do was twist the flapper back like you showed.
Glad it helped!
I have the exact same toilet. I had to replace the flush assy also after about a year. After some research, I found that the flapper goes bad because of the use of tablet cleaners being placed in the tank. The chemicals/chlorine cause the rubber to bubble up and cause it to not seat flush on the valve. My wife now uses the stick on ones in the bowl instead of the tank.
Good to know
We also use those chemical tablets and now have a running tank. I bought a generic replacement valve seal and replaced the original, but it still runs.
@@JasonMaehl If you have stopped using the tablets, I would recommend replacing it with OEM. I bought four of them as spares and havent had to replace it since we stopped using the tablets.
I have three Champion 4 toilets installed over several years. I know, I know. My thinking was over that time the design process would have improved but it did not. All three have the ghost flush. I called American Standard and received a new gasket for free ( this was 5 years ago). I changed the blistered gasket (very easy) not the cap as shown in this video. Six months later ghost flush again. I see NU Flush has a conversion kit for this toilet, to go to the tried and true flapper valve. I may purchase one and if it works after six months may get two more conversion kits. I see there is also a class action suit regarding this faulty toilet.
They now offer an upgraded green seal on Amazon. I put one in my second toilet. A few months later and no issues.
Great video. I've had the champion 1V
For probably 6 plus years & have been very happy.
However.. recently after putting in new flooring my toilet rarely flushes first time. I don't have a leaking flapper. Could it be it's not tight enough to new flooring?
Any theories are greatly appreciated.
Hard to say, but I would start with the resent floor change. You might have a seal issue partially blocking the exit of the toilet.
I bought 3 of these toilets in my home when I bought it about five years ago. They’re all bad and my water bill just jumped $350. Thanks for showing this. They were running every three minutes
Wow! Get them fixed asap! Amazon now sells just the new seal.
Thanks for your help you have the only video I could find to help with this type of flapper. I saw in a comment you said you found just the flapper can you tell us where found just flapper? Thanks again and great job
I'll have to dig that part number up. Please comment back so I get a notification as a reminder
Just wondering if you found the part number thanks again
Bought a Kohler from Costco over 2 years ago. No issues yet.
So I encountered a problem that wasn't addressed in this video and it may be because the newer flush valves don't come apart easily or something. I was able to take the old flapper off inside the tank but the new flapper would not come off of the new flush valve. What you can do in this case is unscrew the top where the chain connects to the new flapper. You will see the seal held on by a gray plastic ring. Twist that and remove it and take that seal out and replace the one that's leaking on the old flapper and put the old flapper with the new seal back on.
good job by the way fixing the office chair!
Lol
@@TKCL i had to lol! its a wonder you couldnt convert it to a normal flush mechanism
Might could have.
Thanks! I just ordered the part to do this. While I have the tank off, I'm going to replace the gaskets that are around the bolts that hold the tank on. Is that overkill? I figure that all gaskets will eventually wear out and leak so I might as well do it now. What do you think? My toilet is about 15 years old.
15 years old is worth replacing all gaskets in my opinion.
Upon searching online for a valve assembly I find that none shown actually state my model number. Will the valve assembly used in this video be the valve assembly to use for American Standard model 4266?
I completed agree that having to disassemble the whole tank is ridiculous! I wish it was just my flapper. Unfortunately the plastic rod that runs through the center of mine snapped off. Im thoroughly aggravated!
Great job doing the video! Best vid I found while searching all afternoon and I can't express enough how happy it has made me! Thank you!!!
You'll have to contact the manufacturer directly to answer that.
Thank you again, I was afraid that was the case.
Very helpful! Mine is almost EXACTLY the same age as yours. Poor toilet design. Menards sells the replacement seal!
I found the seal on Amazon after making this video.
It worked just as you said but I encountered an issue where the shaft on my toilet did not have the barbs on each side to keep the shaft from falling down into the toilet and yes mine disappeared into oblivion lol. So I took the new shaft to use and found the next issue. The hole in the center of the flush valve has reliefs built into it for the locking tabs to pass through. Mine does not. So I ended up cutting them off so the new shaft woo I’ll old pass through the hole in my existing flush valve. If it happens to come loose, at least the new shaft can come out. Thanks for the help !
Sorry to hear that you had some issues.
@@TKCL - it’s okay! Your video helped me immensely
The new ‘standard’ is of profit for the company, they know exactly what they’ve done.
Would any other repair kits work for the Champion 4? And do the newer flaps last better?
There is a new flap only that seems to be better and is also available on Amazon.
Thank you for the video.... i just dropped the threaded pole in the hole 😢
Oh no!
You can also buy just the seal ring at Lowes for $6.00. The weird thing is the lower black portion that holds the silicone ring in place is not concentric. Mine had a mark on one of the tabs to show how it goes back together. I don't know if it came from the factory that way or the previous owner put some fingernail polish on to mark it. However if you do not have it aligned properly the flapper will be offset when you get it back together. Why they didn't make it concentric is beyond me.
Interesting, Thanks.
The American Standard Champion toilet isn't the problem. The gasket may be suspect to early failure, but the manufacture will replace it for FREE. Every plumbing part ever manufactured will have a component that isn't bullet proof. In this case your water most likely will continue to cause failures of that gasket. The newer replacement gaskets seem to hold up much longer no doubt due to different material being used.
I actually love these toilets and plan to keep them. Luckily I found a newer style gasket that appears to fix the faulty factory one.
Thanks for your good explanation.
Glad it was helpful
Can you tell me how to replace the rubber seal/gasket at the bottom of the tank under the float assembly. It’s the rubber seal that should be flush with the bottom of the tank. Also, please tell me what that seal is called. Thank you.
If you find out, let me know. I also need the bottom seal
Can you replace an older Champion flush valve flapper that has a thumb screw on the top with the newer flapper that your demonstration shows? Thank you
I don't believe so, you would need to contact Champion to verify.
Took a chance and bought the flush valve for the one piece Champion as the picture of the flapper looked similar…green with a black thumb screw. It worked! Also the silicone gasket and o-ring replaced. Of course I’m left with a non usable shaft but it did the trick. Going to try to attach 2 pics. Feel free to use. Thanks for your attention.
Well, I guess there is no way to send pics that I could find. Thanks again.
If you call them they send you 6 new seals and instructions. Lowers sells just the seal.
Thank you
Menard’s carry’s just the flush seal for the American Standard Titan/Champion 4 toilets.
I found it on Amazon.
I have the same unit in my tank. I can't believe the engineers at
American Standard thought this was an improved design.
First off, I didn't see anywhere in your video if it's possible to
replace JUST the blistered gasket ? The previous design had a black
lock nut on top of the green flapper cover that you could unscrew.
Then you could replace JUST the gasket.
This new design eliminated that black lock nut.
Even if I was able to remove the flapper cover as you describe in your video,
can you replace JUST the "blistered" gasket ? If you have to replace
the entire top flapper piece which comes with a new gasket, I don't
see where you're saving any money since you would have to buy the entire
flush valve assembly just to replace the gasket !
You can replace just the gasket, I did it to my second toilet. I found the new and improved gasket here amzn.to/4aLKBKY
The thing I like about this toilet design is out do you flush it? There’s still about a gallon of water in there which means if you put a traditional flapper valve in there and converted it, it would be dumping that extra gallon and it would flush good like toilets used to before the regulatory people ruined them.😅😂
This toilet does flush extremely well, I've never plugged it. That's why I bought it, I HATE these new low water toilets. They plug anytime you wipe more than once.
@@TKCL yep, typical government regulators they don’t want you to use 2 gallons per flush so they make 1.6 gallon toilets that you have to flush twice. 😂😂
I've seen that same exact failure at work and had to fix it with the whole assembly like you said. But all I really needed was the seal
It's apparently a really bad design or low quality materials.
Can you please send a part number for the flush valve assembly or a amazon link. The screw broke on my flapper stem. Thanks Nice video
Here is the assembly amzn.to/3NiIQex
You can buy just the seal or flapper and the top comes apart to replace after it’s removed
I found the new seal after making this video. I've already had to replace the seal in my second toilet.
So I had the older model. There was seperation forming, but I developed a crack on that plastic bit on top. With the older model, you cant just swap these out. The way the top fits the bottom has changed, as well as the thread diameter.
I am having the same problem. How did you fix it? Did you have to take the toilet apart to put in the new valve assembly?
I have the same toilet with terrible streaking
Streaking is usually due to leaking. You need to replace the seal.
I have the same toilet and despite adjusting the float level it works for 1 or 2 flushes and then starts pouring water into that overflow spout again. Do I need to replace the float part and if so how? Which one do I purchase?
You made full adjustments on the float level? Sounds like the float might be waterlogged. There is a model number on the inside of the toilet tank. Type that in for parts.
That's disappointing. I just bought an American Standard a few months ago. Not looking forward to potential failure. Thanks for sharing.
If it has the large 4 inch valve like mine, the reviews all over the internet show this is a common problem. Sad!
I was able to just buy an off brand gasket for my tank. I have only have it 9 months and the manufacturers gasket was all bulged. An $8 amazon part fixed this issue.
Thank you for your video. I also have another American Standard toilet and it's the same exact issue with the damn flapper. I don't see why they don't fix that damn issue with the flapper bubbling up and causing a gap on the seal that makes it leak. Makes you not want to buy their products due to their issues. Well I called American Standard and the rep stated that the toilets are under a 10 year warranty and they going to send me a couple of flapper rubber seals at no charge. I would recommend you call American Standard them and explain.
They do cover parts, but I wanted mine fixed quickly. I also found just the seal.
Yes, yours is the only video with the newer one-piece valve, but unless I take the tank down and remove the entire assembly, I cannot get the valve to “click” to continue the removal process. It feels like I’m going to break the stem on the lower assembly. Just won’t easily come apart. I just hate the idea of removing the tank!
I just did my second toilet, it will click and pop loose if you twist hard enough. They now sell just the seal amzn.to/3PoxyGF
3:08 Sadly, you contacted everyone.BUT A.S. about your issue. American Standard DID NOT LET YOU DOWN; Flush valves are guaranteed for 10 YEARS by A.S. As long as you registered your toilets, just call them and they will send you the Parts for FREE.