I got my first 22 rifle for Christmas when I was 10. It was a Cooey single shot that I still have. I'm 60 years old, and my father is gone, but it's still the last rifle I will ever give up! I have calibers from 22 through 30-06. I am a blessed individual. Thank you God!
6.5 Grendel is a good low recoil option. For my young grand kids, I put together a Howa Carbonstalker mini in 6.5 Grendel. Loaded with 115 grain TAC-TX over RL15, it is an accurate rifle. My daughter has been the Beta tester and has pulled the trigger on two does; both died quickly, and both were solid pass throughs. I killed my first deer with a Ruger Deerstalker carbine at 10 years old in 1985. I was alone, about 3/4 of a mile from the nearest human. In the interest of safety, my dad had bought me a 3 wheeler to ride the year before. :) i drug the hide off that deer on the dirt road coming back to camp...lol. To be fair, I had been small game hunting alone with a .22 for 2 full years at that point. Farm life is great for producing independent children.
I’m in my mid/late 30’s and don’t have any issues with shoulders or anything and I’m not recoil shy but I still take a minimalist view with recoil. I don’t get shots on deer over 100 yards typically so, intermediate cartridges are more than enough. I could have gotten away with a .357/.44 mag rifle but the only reason I never did is because I was going to use what I already had.
When you pulled out the lever action rifle the movie true grit popped into my head. The one with John Wayne as opposed to Jeff Bridges. That young girl with her fathers gun a Colt dragoon!
New England Arms use to make a single shot , break open rifle . I still have one on .270 . It’s a scoped rifle and one shot one kill .. but you can follow up shot fairly quickly ..
I picked up a Browning BLR lever in 243 for my boy. Sweet little rifle without a lot of kick. Very light too. I was able to test it out on an 8pt last year for him and only went 20 yards. He got his 6pt in archery season last year and again this year so he's not getting much use out of it😀
I have one, a takedown model, in 243 because as a shorter septuagenarian I’ve decided I’m too old for a harder kicking rifle. Good choice at both ends of the age spectrum.
I grew up in WY in the fifties. There were ‘family’ guns and since all my cousins were older I usually had my choice of several when it was my turn. When I was deemed old enough to deer hunt, my choices were a 30-30 lever action and a .243. I chose the .243 hoping to parley it into antelope hunts as well. My father worked some hand loads up for it which I assume were lower powered and I used it for three years until I worked up to the 30.06.
If you're looking for video ideas , how about wooden gunstock care ? From cleaning to polishing/waxing , do's and don'ts , etc from hunting season to next season. Care after being out in foul weather.
My daughter started with a 6.5 Grendel. Howa makes bolt guns chambered for it and there may be others. Hardly any recoil at all and great for deer within a couple hundred yards. She's taken several with it!
The weight of the rifle can be tricky. Heavyweight for shooting, but not so heavy that they don’t want to carry it. Enough of a caliber that it will perform well terminally but not so much that recoil becomes an issue. Many stocks have removable spacers, so that tends to be less of an issue. We chose 22lr to start shooting, then a step up to 223 for better performance, and now 6.5 creedmoor for hunting. They also shoot a 30-30. Bog pod tripods or similar help a ton with recoil. Suppressors help with felt and perceived recoil. Don’t over complicate things with a fancy scope reticle. Figure out the basics first, get close when hunting, and the rest will come.
Still want a video on triggers! Perhaps go over appropriate trigger pull weight for hunting situations, target shooting situations. And if after market triggers like timney are worth your cash.
I was never allowed to use a semiauto until I nearly an adult. My Dad and my other mentors insisted on showing mastery of the bolt action rifle first. I've still never hunted deer with a semiauto in my life. The rifle I was provided, and I will hunt with this weekend, is a Remington Model 600 Mohawk in .243 Win. It's my go-to for hiking the limestone bluffs on the Pine Ridge Reservation for trophy whitetail. I lost a heart shot deer with it when I was 17. Never found it. That's when an experienced hunter taught me about Nosler Partition bullets and to take the front shoulders first, then follow up with your kill shot. It's been the best advice I ever had. I find my deer right where they stood when I fired.
In east Texas the 243 Win seems to be a favorite for whitetail deer, especially for younger hunters utilizing lighter bullets (80 grain). The popularity of the 243 usually insures a good selection of used rifles in that caliber and the availability of ammunition makes for a great combination. Additionally, many of the firearm makers offer rifles with adjustable stocks, which can "grow" with the shooter. In addition to deer, the 243 is ideal for feral hogs and coyotes, which are in abundance in our area. In my opinion, the 243 Win is ideal for hunting in my area of the country.
Excellent discussion. Agree with your points about reduced recoil ammunition. I had always dismissed them and questioned their efficacy until my local shop had a few boxes of it on clearance in .270 Winchester. It had a 120 grain bullet slowed down noticeably. Sure, the .270 is no longer a 300 yard pronghorn cartridge with that specific load, but it is fine for the majority of whitetail hunting which happens under 100 yards. That load recoiled similarly to my varmint barrelled 22-250. Was really impressed with how comfortable it was to shoot. Wish I saw more of that reduced charge stuff on the shelves for a price that we could afford. I imagine a compact sized .243 or 7mm-08 with the reduced recoil ammo would be perfect for a youngster.
I'm going to be a father in a few months, and although this decision is several years away, I've already found myself thinking about this for the last few weeks. I can't wait to make memories huntung in the field and shooting at the range with my son.
It’s a tough thing to figure out. I started my son off with a single shot 20 gauge. He never shot it at a deer for the earliest couple of seasons. We got him a Remington Model Seven in .308 and some reduced recoil Hornady ammo. Time flies and he’s a big dude now. There’s only a few years that they’re too small to handle a regular length of pull and a little more recoil. Great video Gun Blue! Thanks for continuing the awesome content.
My daughter is 6 and GIANT for her age. She’s a head taller than the next tallest kid in the class, and she’s got a very long wingspan compared to her height as well, as do I. I’m only 6’ but my draw length is 31”. I’m worried that I’m gonna buy her a short LOP rifle when she’s ten or twelve and she outgrows it by the time she’s in high school.
That’s probably going to happen, but you can sell or trade the rifle or keep it for a younger child. You’ll find a solution. The important thing is spending time with her and introducing her to hunting. That’s awesome! Good luck and best wishes to you and your family.
I grew up in shotgun only area, my first was a bolt action mossberg 12ga. with the C-lect choke, had alot of fun partridges, pheasants, rabbits, squirrels. Got my first deer w/a mossberg 500 pump 20ga.. A Savage 30-30 bolt action might be a nice starter deer rifle, they have lite loads,, affordable neat guns. Yes Henry has some nice lever guns, .360 buckhammer is supposed to be a great deer round, any of those pistol caliber lever guns are great starter deer rifles, but prices are getting up there. Theres a lot to consider. My 29 yr old daughter and I have a blast shooting my shotguns when she visits, ahh the smell of shotshells having been spent!
I started out with a single shot 12 gauge and 3" magnum slugs when I was 12 years old. My father said it "kicks like a mule" so he took the .30/30 instead, and I learned how to handle that big recoil! I suppose I was rather sturdy for my age. I got my own .30/30 after a couple seasons, took my first deer with it, and still have that fine old rifle all these decades later. I no longer have that single shot 12 gauge...
Years ago I inherited a beautiful Remington 5 diamond 760 pump in the rare 280 caliber. Mine was even equipped with an old weaver K4 scope with Weaver flip over scope rings which allowed the scope to be swung over to the left utilizing the open sights. Lately I’ve been noticing on RUclips tube a resurgence of the pump action Remingtons with hunters in the Northeast area specifically NY’s Adirondacks and Maine using these rifles while tracking big bucks. Thought it might make for an interesting video as well as your opinion on these great rifles.
I bought a 350 legend with a leupold 2-7 on it. I got it for the grandson to learn on. I’ve found myself hunting with it since I got it. Recoil is very mild compared to my other rifles. I’ve taken three deer with it from 40-90 yds. It’s very effective with a double lung hit. Deer typically drop within 40 yds. My oldest grandson has taken his first two deer with it as well. As usual your advise is spot on.
For all my kids: AR-15 with collapsible stocks and limbsaver slip on recoil pads. They love the look. The modularity (ability to stick multiple caliber uppers on them) and modifiability (especially in length of pull) was key. When my oldest started hunting, we lived in a bottle neck cartridge area: he killed his first deer with a 300 black out (same power as a 30-30). Had a SBR stamp plus a form 1 suppressor on it too: lightened the recoil even more than the autoloader did. For second kid we lived in a straight walled only area: Same SBR but with 350 Legend short barrel: it did the deal and also had a suppressor and light recoil that didn't turn the youngster off.
My 12th birthday I got a Ruger M77 Ultralight 243, it does kick but practice, practice, practice. Both my kids have now used it for their first deer. I’m never selling it but waiting now for grandkids, it’s pretty close to needing a new barrel, lots of practice with the kids. Probably will add a couple inches and a little thicker barrel to add some weight. Grandkids aren’t even a thought yet but I don’t think my kids will practice enough to get them used to the recoil.
Video idea: Older S&W revolver cylinder end shake shimming. What is end shake and or cylinder rubbing the forcing cone, how to measure, what is "in spec", why its a problem and of course how to address the issue from a certified S&W factory trained gunsmith perspective and confirm its now correct. Very old Smiths have right hand threads and in the 1970's at some point they changed to left hand I believe. Might be a much needed stand alone video and very much appreciated. Thanks for considering. Max
Deer hunting is a right of passage, also IMHO a child can come along and help etc, but to shoot and kill a deer, they should be able to handle and operate the gun alone by themselves in a blind if need be. I wanted to trust their safety and full control so for me it was 14 years old minimum for my kids, my soon shot a 30-06 150 grain, my daughter a 25-06 120 grain. I taught them how to use their sling, and thus recoil is mitigated by a snug shoulder/check weld, scope with adequate eye relief. Both those rifles still serve them well as adults today.
300 blk, 350 legend, 44 magnum, 30-30, 35 Rem, 357 magnum, 360 buckhammer, 6mm ARC, 22 ARC (if 22 cal allowed). All will do fine. I'd probably go with the 6mm ARC as they can more easily learn to shoot longer ranges if they show an interest for improving their marksmanship.
@@FranzAntonMesmer I did forget about the grendel. I think 6 mm ARC sorta sunsetted the grendel, but it is still a good option and they're still making guns and ammo for it. The 257 roberts is a poor choice IMO because of poor availability of ammo and components. The cartridge itself is great, but I'm not spending a bunch of time and money tracking down brass and potentially doing a bunch of load development when I can but CVA single shot and be pretty sure factory ammo is going to be solid right out of the gate.
I love lever guns! I have a few. I started my first deer hunt in 1992. I was a tall scrawny boy at the age of 12, my dad gave me his Marlin 336 30-30 to use. His particular rifle had a factory Marlin hammer spur attached to the hammer and with my small weak thumbs at time while also being sensitive to the November cold in Wisconsin I on two separate occasions had an accidental discharge releasing the hammer while setting the safety. Praise God I was obeying the gun safety rules and was pointing the rifle in a safe direction. After the second time it happened I unloaded the gun and handed it to my dad and said I don't want to use this gun, it scares me. After he got done chewing me a new one he called around and found my uncle had an old Stevens 325 bolt action 30-30 for me to use instead. I had no problems with this rifle. I would never recommend a lever action to a youth hunter simply based on lack of hand strength, I know some newer models have a cross bolt safety but a bolt action is just a safer option for an inexperienced shooter in my opinion. I would recommend a Savage Axis or Ruger American chambered in 350 Legend for a new shooter. Yes they have limited range but how far does the average novice hunter shoot? They offer low recoil and good dropping power in an inexpensive rifle package, plus they both offer them in youth models.
Boy did this bring back memories! We're a New Jersey hunting family on our property near Blairstown (where the first Friday the 13th was filmed - so you can picture the landscape). For years slugs were illegal in Jersey, so it was buck shot or nothing, and we harvested a ton of deer. My first hunt was with my grandfather's Parker side by side. Soon thereafter I inherited my grandfather's Remington Model 29 pump, passed down to my uncle and then to me. Took a long shot on an 8 point buck with 000 and dropped him like a rock. One pellet broke his neck. Never underestimate the power of buck shot.
I live in Michigan and my part of the state rifles are legal. Back in the day we did a lot of deer drives and pretty much every chuck of land we pushed had what we called “the hole”. Deer would run by at 10-20 yards. Weapon of choice was a 12ga with a short smooth bore slug barrel with an iron sights and 00 buck. There was no way you were going to make a rifle shot especially a scoped rifle in those spots. The deer would just go down in a heap when you hit them with 00 buck at 15yards and field dressing really made you appreciate what that load could do both in the deer woods and a dark hallway
My daughter is starting out this season with a TC Contender carbine in 30-30 with a 2.5x Leopold compact scope. An oldie but goodie, small & lightweight rifle.
If i were buying a bolt action for a Childs deer rifle. I would get a .223. Use 55 grn soft points or harnady tap ammo. Ive used both many times. That combination performed flawlessly. But i do agree with you totally about a lever action. For a Parent to choose a lever action is a Wonderful way to help build novel memories. The child can tell of shooting the lever gun for the rest of thier life. And the story will never grow old. Great, thoughtful vidio! Best Wishes from Montana.
I wish I had a suggestion that I could make for your channel and hear you discuss. Your channel is really so great already! I will certainly drop you a note if I do think of something I would like to hear your thoughts on. You have been very very thorough and professional so far. I really do enjoy hearing your informed outlook and learning from your experiences and training. Truly informative on many points when it comes to firearms and becoming a more proficient marksman. I'm only a hobbyist myself but you've shared some real pearls of wisdom on your channel time and time again. My grandfather and uncle in their prime were very skilled deer hunters up in Maine. My grandfather also was a local law enforcement officer and was very skilled with his Ruger Security Six, I'm told. They both passed before I had a solid chance to learn from them first hand. But the way you present yourself on your channel reminds me soo much about the way I remember them having such respect for firearms and proper maintenance of them. I was blessed to receive Grampy's Marlin 336 in. 30-30 I believe it's from 1974. I absolutely treasure it and it's very enjoyable on the range. Genuinely thanks for all you have done, and all that you do for the community of gun owners. God bless! And I look forward to your next episode.
I’m a big fan of the 7mm-08 mild recoil short action but had more punch than a 243. I think I’d prob go with a 6.5CM tho with the availability of ammo but same idea as the 7mm-08. I’d buy a full size stock then buy a second youth stock as the child grew you could switch from the youth to full size stock. 350 legend is a great little round and would be great in shotgun zones where straight walled are legal.
300 Blackout with supersonic 150gr bullets has done me well for 2 years now. I built a ultra light straight pull out of AR parts. Keep shots under 100 yds.
71+ year old FUD here. Glad to see a new video GB. Are these boys just now getting interested in deer hunting or first time hunting anything? That wasn’t clear to me. I believe that first time hunting for anyone at any age should be for small game like rabbits or squirrels AFTER they have learned safety and marksmanship. Dad started me with the single bolt action 22 using shorts when I was five or six years old. Then rabbits and squirrels before deer as I grew older. I think I was about 14 when I was first allowed to deer hunt. That was in Iowa which was a shotgun only with slugs state in those mid 1960’s days. Used my Ithaca model 66 super single 20 gauge. Learned to make the first shot count. I wasn’t very big, but Dad taught me how to not be afraid of recoil. I’d suggest one of those or the H&R single shot rifles that sometimes can be found with two barrels often 20 gauge and 30-30 Winchester. If not a single shot but a bolt gun the inexpensive Savage Axis with their synthetic stock have been found to be (I hate to admit) very accurate. A friend of mine has one in 350 Legend with a cheap scope. Last year he took a nice buck grave yard dead DRT at a little over 200 yards. I live and farm in Kansas where we can use any legal to own center fire rifle or shotgun. My friend just used the rifle because he got it on a trade deal. A big thing for me is for new hunters to have a mentor whether it’s a dad, mom, uncle, grandfather or friend. My grandmother who was the daughter of a circuit riding Methodist preacher used to tell me about hunting on horseback in Mississippi with her father in the early 1900’s. Although she’s been gone since 1979 it looks like I’m finally going to get her Smith&Wesson 32 hand ejector. Yes, even grandmothers can be mentors. I urge all your viewers to try to be mentors. It’s the only way we’re going to bring people into hunting and keep our hunting rights. Happy hunting boys and girls! 😊
my first deer rifle was a remington 700 in 3006 back in 1968. now i would go with a light, short bolt gun in 243 win. do a video on some of the gun writers of the past.
I grew up in a Shotgun/Bow/Archery state. They did allow handguns 357 or above, and also muzzleloader. Got many deer with a 20 gauge smoothbore and a bow. Later on got into Muzzleloaders. Never got any with a pistol yet.
@ they banned pistol hunting up here in like the 80s or maybe earlier. Then they used that as justification to ban pistol sales. Step by step, inch by inch. Suddenly theyre 6 miles behind the line and you lost it all.
I have been on the hunt for a left hand compact rifle for my daughter. My father in law bought my son a sako bavarian in 243. He will be an apprentice hunter next year. But my daughter rifle was much harder to find. Most of the manufacturers stopped making left hand compact versions. I just recently bought her a ruger hawkeye hunter in 6.5 creedmoor. Not my first choice for caliber, but there are fewer options for left handed shooters as well. That will be something for her to grow into in a couple of years. I think she might start off with her great grandfathers model 94. I wish I had seen this video a week ago, keep them coming!
@@johnmorin9304 Consider this: as a left handed shooter I grew up shooting right hand bolt rifles. As a lefty you can keep your left shooting hand in position and looking through the sights/ scope and work the bolt easily with your right hand. When I bought a chassis long distance rifle a few years ago, I chose a right hand model.
Hello gun blue ! I have been enjoying your videos for years. Thank you. I would like to know what you think of silencers. Greetings from Germany. Manfred
My first hunting rifle is an older Remington 700 in 30-06 that was passed down to me from my grandfather. I was in middle school before I started taking real interest in hunting, mainly due to having moved to a different state than where my relatives who hunt lived. While that rifle wasn't too bad for me to get used to since I grew up around firearms, and had been shooting since I was 8, I know if I had taken interest earlier, that rifle would've been way too much in terms of recoil. You're points are all spot on for younger children getting into deer hunting. I would also add that for calibers that could still be a bit much for a kid, a good recoil pad such as Limbsaver, assuming it doesn't add too much length of pull, would help if one's options are limited. I generally agree with your sentiment on semi-autos for deer hunting. Most children don't have the muscle memory or the maturity to be able to contain their excitement enough to continue to follow the rules of firearms safety after taking the shot on the deer. Even as an adult, I still primarily use the 30-06, but I did just take a deer with an AR-10 that I built in 308, so I can now say I've successfully taken a deer with a rifle that I built. The only good reason I've heard for using AR platform for deer hunting is that such application allows for one to become more proficient in the use of that platform in the field. That being said, you're absolutely right that the follow-up shot rationale is silly if your shot placement is adequate. Great video, as always.
With all the Cartridges out these days, nothing wrong w the OLE ones but i think the new ones have merritt. 243 is one of the best 1st rifles to get your kids. New cartridges using the 243 bullet are real contenders. I like the newish 6 ARC. it uses the 243 long sleek bullets with lots to choose from, from light to heavy bullets and all the different types from soft point old school to newer solid copper bullets. in todays world lots of people hunt w an old fashioned bolt action and lots of people have started hunting w an AR. the 6 ARC can be used in both AR and Bolt. and the recoil of the 6 ARC is very similar to a 223. so very light recoil for 1st shooters. but it has enough power to take deer sized game out to 400+/- yards. NO ONE says the 243 is not enough for deer so then the 6 ARC would be the same. take a look at it and you will be very happy. if you think the 22-250 is enough then look at the 2 ARC. there are so many rounds today too many to list that would be great for 1st rifles for kids.
Video idea: I don't believe you have made any videos on 7.62x39. I deer hunt in Maine with this round and have had great success with the terminal ballistics. I have never lost a deer. I use a bolt action CZ 527, plenty accurate with Hornady hunting rounds. I can also have fun with my rifle at the range because surplus ammo is inexpensive. That's nice to be able to use your rifle for more than just one or two deer shots a year because ammo is so expensive for it. It also works great for keeping varmints on the farm in check. Thanks for all your videos!
Rifles that are not semo auto mu state alow it with a. license but uou have to be 21 my grand son is 18 so limit aply we want to hunt rabid. So 22 review done by you sir is perfect. Happy thanks giving from ny.
Overall I think this was a well don’t evaluation. I don’t necessarily agree with a 20 gauge and recommend jumping straight to 12 with reduced loads like 7/8oz. But I do think the 350 is similar to the 30-30. A 140 30-30 is 2500fps and the 350 is 2600 for a 140. Both have 6” drop at 200.
I remember as a kid, I wanted to get a Marlin 1894 .357 Magnum for deer hunting, just like my grandfather had. I eventually inherited it, would definitely have my son use it if he wanted to come deer hunting with me. Anyway, video ideas. What if you discussed Thompson Center Contenders and Encores?
Always good to see you again Gunblue. I always enjoy your firearms videos, but I also really enjoyed your New England cooking. I'd love it if you could give us some cooking videos with some wild game. I'm always looking to take my venison, squirrel and rabbit to a new level. Perhaps you could do a hunt with Murphy and then give us a cooking recipe. Happy Thanksgiving and all the best to you all.
A refresher on incremental load testing or ladder testing would be great for new viewers and old a like. Makes for excellent campfire conversations comparing notes and what works and what doesn’t. Music to the ears of us guy’s and gal’s that are looking for a little more accuracy.💯🤔
A howa mini action could do a good job or a Ruger American ranch if the howa is too steep. Defining “youth” or “kid” though really makes a difference since a 10 year old and a 16 year old are both children but there not the same.
My suggestion for a youngsters first deer rifle is the 6mm ARC or the 6.5 Grendel in a bolt action. Plenty of power, almost no recoil. Also very accurate, even with factory ammo.
I would really appreciate it if you shared your thoughts on past and present products from the same manufacture. Colt vs (CZ) Colt Marlin vs (Ruger ) Marlin Old S&W vs current S&W ...
Video Suggestion:Your video a while back on the Beeman R7 (HW30) was fantastic. You did mention the Red Ryder in this video. Ever consider making a Daisy video?
Mossberg centerfire rifles are no good. Don't waste your money. Their shotguns are good though. The Ruger American, Savage Axis, Stevens 334, would all better better options. Rem 783 probably ok too. If spending a bit more look at Howa ,Tikka. Savage 110. 20 gauge is pretty good for youth. 350 Legend doesn't recoil much at all. There is also a 400 Legend. 44 mag and 50 cal muzzleloaders are good options. You can load down the charge on a muzzleloader, and use lighter bullets to tame recoil. I'm seeing Ruger A rifles at $404 at the moment. CVA makes single shots in centerfire rounds like 44mag. Could be safer for youth getting started, being one at a time. If you practice, you can get quit quick. Same with muzzleloader reloading, you can get pretty quick once you practice.
How about a tutorial on adjusting a Mil scope for drop while shooting long distance. Not the deep drive science of Mil vs. MOA, but really useful info. For instance, you're in the brush and just walk out to the edge of open field. Spot a buck, or may cast hog out between 100 meters or so. I am dial in on between 25 to 75 meters. Now apply the math and figure incorrectly and miss and opportunity. Just an idea 💡
I like to employ a 200 yard zero for the most part. This applies to standard cartridges like .270 and .30/06, as well as most magnums. This puts the point of impact 2 to 3 inches high at 100 yards and 6 to 8 inches low at 300 yards (varies depending on the load being used). This is a very simple method and will keep your shots within the vital area from 0 to 300 yards (okay maybe 325 for the magnums) without the need for any sort of ballistic holdover reticle. Distances much beyond 300 yards are going to require a dial capable scope, precise laser rangefinder, and the use of drop charts appropriate for the load being used; another ball game. The mil-dot reticle can indeed be used for range estimates at long distance but this is more applicable to battle where a hit is a hit rather than for hunting where we must strive to make precise and ethical shots as best we can. The best use for a ballistic reticle when hunting is for windage correction as you dial for elevation and hold off for wind. I like to keep it simple with a regular duplex reticle and a 200 yard zero. Best regards.
@Craig-r8r2s good advice. I usually zero 100 yards and feel confident of making shots between 75 to 125 yrds. 200 yrds was advised years ago with my 260 remington. Thank you for your time.
Ok, You got a lifetime of experience. But Kids should be allowed to practice(With advice) with smaller bores till they get confortableand then with the bigger ones. Having a Father OR Grandfather with experience and a few guns. Weight?? well you make due with what you got. My first was Target Walter LG airgun arround 10-11. I lugged that one everywhere in the woods. The most important lesson was that I had to sneak up to 10-15 yds to make a kill shot
Thanks for all the videos, you taught us so much, most of all how to think with our own heads... Nowadays it's hard for a new shooter to make a difference between advertising myths and proper knowledge. My question is what is your opinion on lapping scope rings? I've had plenty without but lately a lot of manufacturers are cutting back on quality on every level so they can save a couple pennies and it might make lapping necessary. I'd love to see your take on this.
Gunblue490,with regard to reloading. Would you consider a video experimenting with brass tumbling, comparing wet vs dry methods, different concoctions and the benefits of each?
Thank you for the talk. I had often heard of the 7mm-08 being a lighter recoil option for younger shooters, and easily terminal to 200 yds. Basically a tamed .270. I had been looking for one myself for a test. Interested in any first hand accounts.
I got lucky when I had to make this choice for my son. I have a close friend who was a game warden. He heard me talking about my Dad having my brother's and I "cut our teeth" with a 30-30 lever action. He had seen accidental discharges with them, so he gave me a lot of grief. I decided a bolt action .243 would be right. My local shop didn't have any, but did have a like new, used .308. It was a Ruger M77 with a Leupold scope. That all-weather ("boat paddle") model. He talked me into it. My son took a buck and a doe at age 12 and, 21 years later, still loves that rifle.
A Gunblue video dropping is like Christmas!
My first deer gun from my father was a Remington 721 in 30-06. Still have it, still dead on.
I got my first 22 rifle for Christmas when I was 10. It was a Cooey single shot that I still have. I'm 60 years old, and my father is gone, but it's still the last rifle I will ever give up! I have calibers from 22 through 30-06. I am a blessed individual. Thank you God!
I had a cooey single barrel shotgun. My only connection to Canada. Serviceable item
6.5 Grendel is a good low recoil option.
For my young grand kids, I put together a Howa Carbonstalker mini in 6.5 Grendel. Loaded with 115 grain TAC-TX over RL15, it is an accurate rifle. My daughter has been the Beta tester and has pulled the trigger on two does; both died quickly, and both were solid pass throughs.
I killed my first deer with a Ruger Deerstalker carbine at 10 years old in 1985. I was alone, about 3/4 of a mile from the nearest human. In the interest of safety, my dad had bought me a 3 wheeler to ride the year before. :) i drug the hide off that deer on the dirt road coming back to camp...lol. To be fair, I had been small game hunting alone with a .22 for 2 full years at that point. Farm life is great for producing independent children.
I was 12 when my dad started leaving me alone in the deer woods. We dragged the hair off of several. 😂
Not just for kids. I’m old now with bad shoulders. I developed a neat little load for the .308 and 150gr bullet. Made a big difference. Good video
I’m in my mid/late 30’s and don’t have any issues with shoulders or anything and I’m not recoil shy but I still take a minimalist view with recoil. I don’t get shots on deer over 100 yards typically so, intermediate cartridges are more than enough. I could have gotten away with a .357/.44 mag rifle but the only reason I never did is because I was going to use what I already had.
When you pulled out the lever action rifle the movie true grit popped into my head. The one with John Wayne as opposed to Jeff Bridges. That young girl with her fathers gun a Colt dragoon!
New England Arms use to make a single shot , break open rifle . I still have one on .270 . It’s a scoped rifle and one shot one kill .. but you can follow up shot fairly quickly ..
.257 Roberts made by my grandfather, still slayin to this day
I picked up a Browning BLR lever in 243 for my boy. Sweet little rifle without a lot of kick. Very light too. I was able to test it out on an 8pt last year for him and only went 20 yards. He got his 6pt in archery season last year and again this year so he's not getting much use out of it😀
I have one, a takedown model, in 243 because as a shorter septuagenarian I’ve decided I’m too old for a harder kicking rifle. Good choice at both ends of the age spectrum.
@stog9821 those are hard to find, they really are nice. I want one in 30-06 for myself
It's done by everyone, but how about how to properly mount and level a scope?
hunting with grandpa is always great.
I grew up in WY in the fifties. There were ‘family’ guns and since all my cousins were older I usually had my choice of several when it was my turn. When I was deemed old enough to deer hunt, my choices were a 30-30 lever action and a .243. I chose the .243 hoping to parley it into antelope hunts as well. My father worked some hand loads up for it which I assume were lower powered and I used it for three years until I worked up to the 30.06.
Kind of have accepted my nephew's take on the 20 gauge. It shoots a slug flatter than a 12 gauge and is more than adequate to take a white tail.
God Bless you and your family, Sir!
God bless you and yours too!
If you're looking for video ideas , how about wooden gunstock care ? From cleaning to polishing/waxing , do's and don'ts , etc from hunting season to next season. Care after being out in foul weather.
I started out with an old J.C. Higgins bolt action 20 gauge. It was a kicker, but it got me out on the lake and in the field.
Your empirical knowledge is greatly appreciated. And, will be appreciated by those who seek an historical perspective for years to come.
My daughter started with a 6.5 Grendel. Howa makes bolt guns chambered for it and there may be others. Hardly any recoil at all and great for deer within a couple hundred yards. She's taken several with it!
GunBlu, I Believe You Are A Blessing in Plain Sight. God Bless You and Yours.
The weight of the rifle can be tricky. Heavyweight for shooting, but not so heavy that they don’t want to carry it. Enough of a caliber that it will perform well terminally but not so much that recoil becomes an issue. Many stocks have removable spacers, so that tends to be less of an issue. We chose 22lr to start shooting, then a step up to 223 for better performance, and now 6.5 creedmoor for hunting. They also shoot a 30-30. Bog pod tripods or similar help a ton with recoil. Suppressors help with felt and perceived recoil. Don’t over complicate things with a fancy scope reticle. Figure out the basics first, get close when hunting, and the rest will come.
7mm-08 is a great caliber. My daughter started with a model 7 243 and my son started with a 260 mountain rifle
Still want a video on triggers! Perhaps go over appropriate trigger pull weight for hunting situations, target shooting situations. And if after market triggers like timney are worth your cash.
Thanks for the suggestion! I'll put that on the docket.
I was never allowed to use a semiauto until I nearly an adult. My Dad and my other mentors insisted on showing mastery of the bolt action rifle first. I've still never hunted deer with a semiauto in my life. The rifle I was provided, and I will hunt with this weekend, is a Remington Model 600 Mohawk in .243 Win. It's my go-to for hiking the limestone bluffs on the Pine Ridge Reservation for trophy whitetail. I lost a heart shot deer with it when I was 17. Never found it. That's when an experienced hunter taught me about Nosler Partition bullets and to take the front shoulders first, then follow up with your kill shot. It's been the best advice I ever had. I find my deer right where they stood when I fired.
Thanks for the great story! I love hearing about hunters using a rifle they were given, for a lifetime.
@@GunBlue490 Yes sir. I do share your affection for lever guns, too. Specifically, the Savage 99 in .300 Savage.
In east Texas the 243 Win seems to be a favorite for whitetail deer, especially for younger hunters utilizing lighter bullets (80 grain). The popularity of the 243 usually insures a good selection of used rifles in that caliber and the availability of ammunition makes for a great combination. Additionally, many of the firearm makers offer rifles with adjustable stocks, which can "grow" with the shooter. In addition to deer, the 243 is ideal for feral hogs and coyotes, which are in abundance in our area. In my opinion, the 243 Win is ideal for hunting in my area of the country.
My first was a H&R 1915 410 my dad would give me 5 slugs . I was 6 . HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO YOU AND YOURS 🤠
Excellent discussion. Agree with your points about reduced recoil ammunition. I had always dismissed them and questioned their efficacy until my local shop had a few boxes of it on clearance in .270 Winchester. It had a 120 grain bullet slowed down noticeably. Sure, the .270 is no longer a 300 yard pronghorn cartridge with that specific load, but it is fine for the majority of whitetail hunting which happens under 100 yards. That load recoiled similarly to my varmint barrelled 22-250. Was really impressed with how comfortable it was to shoot. Wish I saw more of that reduced charge stuff on the shelves for a price that we could afford. I imagine a compact sized .243 or 7mm-08 with the reduced recoil ammo would be perfect for a youngster.
I'm going to be a father in a few months, and although this decision is several years away, I've already found myself thinking about this for the last few weeks. I can't wait to make memories huntung in the field and shooting at the range with my son.
It’s a tough thing to figure out. I started my son off with a single shot 20 gauge. He never shot it at a deer for the earliest couple of seasons. We got him a Remington Model Seven in .308 and some reduced recoil Hornady ammo. Time flies and he’s a big dude now. There’s only a few years that they’re too small to handle a regular length of pull and a little more recoil.
Great video Gun Blue! Thanks for continuing the awesome content.
My daughter is 6 and GIANT for her age. She’s a head taller than the next tallest kid in the class, and she’s got a very long wingspan compared to her height as well, as do I. I’m only 6’ but my draw length is 31”. I’m worried that I’m gonna buy her a short LOP rifle when she’s ten or twelve and she outgrows it by the time she’s in high school.
That’s probably going to happen, but you can sell or trade the rifle or keep it for a younger child. You’ll find a solution. The important thing is spending time with her and introducing her to hunting. That’s awesome! Good luck and best wishes to you and your family.
I grew up in shotgun only area, my first was a bolt action mossberg 12ga. with the C-lect choke, had alot of fun partridges, pheasants, rabbits, squirrels. Got my first deer w/a mossberg 500 pump 20ga.. A Savage 30-30 bolt action might be a nice starter deer rifle, they have lite loads,, affordable neat guns. Yes Henry has some nice lever guns, .360 buckhammer is supposed to be a great deer round, any of those pistol caliber lever guns are great starter deer rifles, but prices are getting up there. Theres a lot to consider. My 29 yr old daughter and I have a blast shooting my shotguns when she visits, ahh the smell of shotshells having been spent!
I started out with a single shot 12 gauge and 3" magnum slugs when I was 12 years old. My father said it "kicks like a mule" so he took the .30/30 instead, and I learned how to handle that big recoil! I suppose I was rather sturdy for my age. I got my own .30/30 after a couple seasons, took my first deer with it, and still have that fine old rifle all these decades later. I no longer have that single shot 12 gauge...
Years ago I inherited a beautiful Remington 5 diamond 760 pump in the rare 280 caliber. Mine was even equipped with an old weaver K4 scope with Weaver flip over scope rings which allowed the scope to be swung over to the left utilizing the open sights. Lately I’ve been noticing on RUclips tube a resurgence of the pump action Remingtons with hunters in the Northeast area specifically NY’s Adirondacks and Maine using these rifles while tracking big bucks. Thought it might make for an interesting video as well as your opinion on these great rifles.
My first rifle was a marlin model 25mn 22wmr. First hunting rifle was a savage model 110 .243
All passed down from my grandfather
I bought a 350 legend with a leupold 2-7 on it. I got it for the grandson to learn on. I’ve found myself hunting with it since I got it. Recoil is very mild compared to my other rifles. I’ve taken three deer with it from 40-90 yds. It’s very effective with a double lung hit. Deer typically drop within 40 yds. My oldest grandson has taken his first two deer with it as well. As usual your advise is spot on.
For all my kids: AR-15 with collapsible stocks and limbsaver slip on recoil pads. They love the look. The modularity (ability to stick multiple caliber uppers on them) and modifiability (especially in length of pull) was key. When my oldest started hunting, we lived in a bottle neck cartridge area: he killed his first deer with a 300 black out (same power as a 30-30). Had a SBR stamp plus a form 1 suppressor on it too: lightened the recoil even more than the autoloader did. For second kid we lived in a straight walled only area: Same SBR but with 350 Legend short barrel: it did the deal and also had a suppressor and light recoil that didn't turn the youngster off.
I always look forward to your videos thank you for posting
I would like to see a video on breakdown and cleaning your lever action😊
I'll add that to the list of future videos!
Just start out at the range with single rounds, but your point is very well taken
My 12th birthday I got a Ruger M77 Ultralight 243, it does kick but practice, practice, practice. Both my kids have now used it for their first deer. I’m never selling it but waiting now for grandkids, it’s pretty close to needing a new barrel, lots of practice with the kids. Probably will add a couple inches and a little thicker barrel to add some weight. Grandkids aren’t even a thought yet but I don’t think my kids will practice enough to get them used to the recoil.
Video idea: Older S&W revolver cylinder end shake shimming. What is end shake and or cylinder rubbing the forcing cone, how to measure, what is "in spec", why its a problem and of course how to address the issue from a certified S&W factory trained gunsmith perspective and confirm its now correct. Very old Smiths have right hand threads and in the 1970's at some point they changed to left hand I believe. Might be a much needed stand alone video and very much appreciated. Thanks for considering. Max
Deer hunting is a right of passage, also IMHO a child can come along and help etc, but to shoot and kill a deer, they should be able to handle and operate the gun alone by themselves in a blind if need be. I wanted to trust their safety and full control so for me it was 14 years old minimum for my kids, my soon shot a 30-06 150 grain, my daughter a 25-06 120 grain. I taught them how to use their sling, and thus recoil is mitigated by a snug shoulder/check weld, scope with adequate eye relief. Both those rifles still serve them well as adults today.
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For my nephew i went with a ar in 350L. Agestible stock very low recoil docents size a weight bullet
My daughter used one of the 6mm Remingtons.
I understand about the second rd. But if that's really a big deal. Just 1 rd in the mag.
300 blk, 350 legend, 44 magnum, 30-30, 35 Rem, 357 magnum, 360 buckhammer, 6mm ARC, 22 ARC (if 22 cal allowed). All will do fine. I'd probably go with the 6mm ARC as they can more easily learn to shoot longer ranges if they show an interest for improving their marksmanship.
@@FranzAntonMesmer I did forget about the grendel. I think 6 mm ARC sorta sunsetted the grendel, but it is still a good option and they're still making guns and ammo for it. The 257 roberts is a poor choice IMO because of poor availability of ammo and components. The cartridge itself is great, but I'm not spending a bunch of time and money tracking down brass and potentially doing a bunch of load development when I can but CVA single shot and be pretty sure factory ammo is going to be solid right out of the gate.
I love lever guns! I have a few. I started my first deer hunt in 1992. I was a tall scrawny boy at the age of 12, my dad gave me his Marlin 336 30-30 to use. His particular rifle had a factory Marlin hammer spur attached to the hammer and with my small weak thumbs at time while also being sensitive to the November cold in Wisconsin I on two separate occasions had an accidental discharge releasing the hammer while setting the safety. Praise God I was obeying the gun safety rules and was pointing the rifle in a safe direction. After the second time it happened I unloaded the gun and handed it to my dad and said I don't want to use this gun, it scares me. After he got done chewing me a new one he called around and found my uncle had an old Stevens 325 bolt action 30-30 for me to use instead. I had no problems with this rifle. I would never recommend a lever action to a youth hunter simply based on lack of hand strength, I know some newer models have a cross bolt safety but a bolt action is just a safer option for an inexperienced shooter in my opinion. I would recommend a Savage Axis or Ruger American chambered in 350 Legend for a new shooter. Yes they have limited range but how far does the average novice hunter shoot? They offer low recoil and good dropping power in an inexpensive rifle package, plus they both offer them in youth models.
Boy did this bring back memories! We're a New Jersey hunting family on our property near Blairstown (where the first Friday the 13th was filmed - so you can picture the landscape). For years slugs were illegal in Jersey, so it was buck shot or nothing, and we harvested a ton of deer. My first hunt was with my grandfather's Parker side by side. Soon thereafter I inherited my grandfather's Remington Model 29 pump, passed down to my uncle and then to me. Took a long shot on an 8 point buck with 000 and dropped him like a rock. One pellet broke his neck. Never underestimate the power of buck shot.
I live in Michigan and my part of the state rifles are legal. Back in the day we did a lot of deer drives and pretty much every chuck of land we pushed had what we called “the hole”. Deer would run by at 10-20 yards. Weapon of choice was a 12ga with a short smooth bore slug barrel with an iron sights and 00 buck. There was no way you were going to make a rifle shot especially a scoped rifle in those spots. The deer would just go down in a heap when you hit them with 00 buck at 15yards and field dressing really made you appreciate what that load could do both in the deer woods and a dark hallway
My daughter is starting out this season with a TC Contender carbine in 30-30 with a 2.5x Leopold compact scope.
An oldie but goodie, small & lightweight rifle.
If i were buying a bolt action for a Childs deer rifle. I would get a .223. Use 55 grn soft points or harnady tap ammo. Ive used both many times. That combination performed flawlessly.
But i do agree with you totally about a lever action. For a Parent to choose a lever action is a Wonderful way to help build novel memories. The child can tell of shooting the lever gun for the rest of thier life. And the story will never grow old.
Great, thoughtful vidio!
Best Wishes from Montana.
I wish I had a suggestion that I could make for your channel and hear you discuss.
Your channel is really so great already!
I will certainly drop you a note if I do think of something I would like to hear your thoughts on.
You have been very very thorough and professional so far. I really do enjoy hearing your informed outlook and learning from your experiences and training. Truly informative on many points when it comes to firearms and becoming a more proficient marksman. I'm only a hobbyist myself but you've shared some real pearls of wisdom on your channel time and time again.
My grandfather and uncle in their prime were very skilled deer hunters up in Maine. My grandfather also was a local law enforcement officer and was very skilled with his Ruger Security Six, I'm told.
They both passed before I had a solid chance to learn from them first hand. But the way you present yourself on your channel reminds me soo much about the way I remember them having such respect for firearms and proper maintenance of them.
I was blessed to receive Grampy's Marlin 336 in. 30-30 I believe it's from 1974. I absolutely treasure it and it's very enjoyable on the range.
Genuinely thanks for all you have done, and all that you do for the community of gun owners.
God bless! And I look forward to your next episode.
Our favorite "guntuber" has been dropping videos on the regular lately. God bless this man.
I’m a big fan of the 7mm-08 mild recoil short action but had more punch than a 243. I think I’d prob go with a 6.5CM tho with the availability of ammo but same idea as the 7mm-08. I’d buy a full size stock then buy a second youth stock as the child grew you could switch from the youth to full size stock. 350 legend is a great little round and would be great in shotgun zones where straight walled are legal.
Have a happy thanksgiving! Really enjoy your videos!
I bought mine a 45-70 carbine, no muzzle break. Saved a lot on ammunition, she’s only shot it once so far
Holy cow! I'm not surprised that she shot it just once! 😂
300 Blackout with supersonic 150gr bullets has done me well for 2 years now. I built a ultra light straight pull out of AR parts. Keep shots under 100 yds.
Hornady custom lites are a really nice factory option for a nice shooting, low recoiling, 250 yard and in deer load
71+ year old FUD here. Glad to see a new video GB. Are these boys just now getting interested in deer hunting or first time hunting anything? That wasn’t clear to me. I believe that first time hunting for anyone at any age should be for small game like rabbits or squirrels AFTER they have learned safety and marksmanship. Dad started me with the single bolt action 22 using shorts when I was five or six years old. Then rabbits and squirrels before deer as I grew older. I think I was about 14 when I was first allowed to deer hunt. That was in Iowa which was a shotgun only with slugs state in those mid 1960’s days. Used my Ithaca model 66 super single 20 gauge. Learned to make the first shot count. I wasn’t very big, but Dad taught me how to not be afraid of recoil. I’d suggest one of those or the H&R single shot rifles that sometimes can be found with two barrels often 20 gauge and 30-30 Winchester. If not a single shot but a bolt gun the inexpensive Savage Axis with their synthetic stock have been found to be (I hate to admit) very accurate. A friend of mine has one in 350 Legend with a cheap scope. Last year he took a nice buck grave yard dead DRT at a little over 200 yards. I live and farm in Kansas where we can use any legal to own center fire rifle or shotgun. My friend just used the rifle because he got it on a trade deal. A big thing for me is for new hunters to have a mentor whether it’s a dad, mom, uncle, grandfather or friend. My grandmother who was the daughter of a circuit riding Methodist preacher used to tell me about hunting on horseback in Mississippi with her father in the early 1900’s. Although she’s been gone since 1979 it looks like I’m finally going to get her Smith&Wesson 32 hand ejector. Yes, even grandmothers can be mentors. I urge all your viewers to try to be mentors. It’s the only way we’re going to bring people into hunting and keep our hunting rights. Happy hunting boys and girls! 😊
History and disassembly and assembly of the Remington model 24 semiautomatic in 22 short. Along with parts availability.
Could you do a video on chronographs? Thanks for all of your videos - I’ve learned a ton from you & I greatly appreciate you sharing your wisdom.
my first deer rifle was a remington 700 in 3006 back in 1968. now i would go with a light, short bolt gun in 243 win. do a video on some of the gun writers of the past.
Region where i grew up has a limit on calibers over .275, so a lot of people started their kid on a 270 and they just kept it all their life.😅
I grew up in a Shotgun/Bow/Archery state. They did allow handguns 357 or above, and also muzzleloader. Got many deer with a 20 gauge smoothbore and a bow. Later on got into Muzzleloaders. Never got any with a pistol yet.
@ they banned pistol hunting up here in like the 80s or maybe earlier. Then they used that as justification to ban pistol sales. Step by step, inch by inch. Suddenly theyre 6 miles behind the line and you lost it all.
Wonderful video, can you do a video on the 221 fireball?
I have been on the hunt for a left hand compact rifle for my daughter. My father in law bought my son a sako bavarian in 243. He will be an apprentice hunter next year. But my daughter rifle was much harder to find. Most of the manufacturers stopped making left hand compact versions. I just recently bought her a ruger hawkeye hunter in 6.5 creedmoor. Not my first choice for caliber, but there are fewer options for left handed shooters as well. That will be something for her to grow into in a couple of years. I think she might start off with her great grandfathers model 94. I wish I had seen this video a week ago, keep them coming!
@@johnmorin9304 Consider this: as a left handed shooter I grew up shooting right hand bolt rifles. As a lefty you can keep your left shooting hand in position and looking through the sights/ scope and work the bolt easily with your right hand. When I bought a chassis long distance rifle a few years ago, I chose a right hand model.
Hello gun blue ! I have been enjoying your videos for years. Thank you.
I would like to know what you think of silencers.
Greetings from Germany.
Manfred
My first hunting rifle is an older Remington 700 in 30-06 that was passed down to me from my grandfather. I was in middle school before I started taking real interest in hunting, mainly due to having moved to a different state than where my relatives who hunt lived. While that rifle wasn't too bad for me to get used to since I grew up around firearms, and had been shooting since I was 8, I know if I had taken interest earlier, that rifle would've been way too much in terms of recoil.
You're points are all spot on for younger children getting into deer hunting. I would also add that for calibers that could still be a bit much for a kid, a good recoil pad such as Limbsaver, assuming it doesn't add too much length of pull, would help if one's options are limited.
I generally agree with your sentiment on semi-autos for deer hunting. Most children don't have the muscle memory or the maturity to be able to contain their excitement enough to continue to follow the rules of firearms safety after taking the shot on the deer.
Even as an adult, I still primarily use the 30-06, but I did just take a deer with an AR-10 that I built in 308, so I can now say I've successfully taken a deer with a rifle that I built. The only good reason I've heard for using AR platform for deer hunting is that such application allows for one to become more proficient in the use of that platform in the field.
That being said, you're absolutely right that the follow-up shot rationale is silly if your shot placement is adequate.
Great video, as always.
Thank You For Sharing Your Thoughts And Knowledge. Excellent Presentation, As Usual. Happy Thanksgiving
With all the Cartridges out these days, nothing wrong w the OLE ones but i think the new ones have merritt. 243 is one of the best 1st rifles to get your kids. New cartridges using the 243 bullet are real contenders. I like the newish 6 ARC. it uses the 243 long sleek bullets with lots to choose from, from light to heavy bullets and all the different types from soft point old school to newer solid copper bullets. in todays world lots of people hunt w an old fashioned bolt action and lots of people have started hunting w an AR. the 6 ARC can be used in both AR and Bolt. and the recoil of the 6 ARC is very similar to a 223. so very light recoil for 1st shooters. but it has enough power to take deer sized game out to 400+/- yards. NO ONE says the 243 is not enough for deer so then the 6 ARC would be the same. take a look at it and you will be very happy. if you think the 22-250 is enough then look at the 2 ARC. there are so many rounds today too many to list that would be great for 1st rifles for kids.
My daughter’s first deer rifle was a Remington in .243 she still has (she was 14) my son had 8 mm Mauser he still has he received it at 14😊
Always a pleasure to see a new video from you sir. Best wishes from Australia.
I'd like to hear about deer hunting back in the golden years of America, and the type of hunting that was successful then and some old stories
Video idea: I don't believe you have made any videos on 7.62x39. I deer hunt in Maine with this round and have had great success with the terminal ballistics. I have never lost a deer. I use a bolt action CZ 527, plenty accurate with Hornady hunting rounds. I can also have fun with my rifle at the range because surplus ammo is inexpensive. That's nice to be able to use your rifle for more than just one or two deer shots a year because ammo is so expensive for it. It also works great for keeping varmints on the farm in check. Thanks for all your videos!
Thanks for your input!
Great subject
Ideas for videos history of your guns your favorite guns happy thanksgiving to you my dear friend god bless you
Outstanding
Looking good old buddy 😊 my first gun was a 12 gauge slug gun, it kicked like hell but it was Alot of fun lol.
300 blackout in single shot works well also
Rifles that are not semo auto mu state alow it with a. license but uou have to be 21 my grand son is 18 so limit aply we want to hunt rabid. So 22 review done by you sir is perfect. Happy thanks giving from ny.
Overall I think this was a well don’t evaluation. I don’t necessarily agree with a 20 gauge and recommend jumping straight to 12 with reduced loads like 7/8oz. But I do think the 350 is similar to the 30-30. A 140 30-30 is 2500fps and the 350 is 2600 for a 140. Both have 6” drop at 200.
I remember as a kid, I wanted to get a Marlin 1894 .357 Magnum for deer hunting, just like my grandfather had. I eventually inherited it, would definitely have my son use it if he wanted to come deer hunting with me.
Anyway, video ideas. What if you discussed Thompson Center Contenders and Encores?
Always good to see you again Gunblue. I always enjoy your firearms videos, but I also really enjoyed your New England cooking. I'd love it if you could give us some cooking videos with some wild game. I'm always looking to take my venison, squirrel and rabbit to a new level. Perhaps you could do a hunt with Murphy and then give us a cooking recipe. Happy Thanksgiving and all the best to you all.
A refresher on incremental load testing or ladder testing would be great for new viewers and old a like. Makes for excellent campfire conversations comparing notes and what works and what doesn’t. Music to the ears of us guy’s and gal’s that are looking for a little more accuracy.💯🤔
I would love to see a GunBlue490 video on glass bedding a 10/22.
A howa mini action could do a good job or a Ruger American ranch if the howa is too steep. Defining “youth” or “kid” though really makes a difference since a 10 year old and a 16 year old are both children but there not the same.
Thank you
My suggestion for a youngsters first deer rifle is the 6mm ARC or the 6.5 Grendel in a bolt action. Plenty of power, almost no recoil. Also very accurate, even with factory ammo.
My dad started me on a mod 94 30-30. Great gun, and I hope to start my kids on it.
Video ideas, how about the classic Remington 870's?
cva makes a nice single shot in compact model
I would really appreciate it if you shared your thoughts on past and present products from the same manufacture.
Colt vs (CZ) Colt
Marlin vs (Ruger ) Marlin
Old S&W vs current S&W ...
Video Suggestion:Your video a while back on the Beeman R7 (HW30) was fantastic.
You did mention the Red Ryder in this video. Ever consider making a Daisy video?
That's a great idea. I'll have to add that to the list!
goo video and good advice
Mossberg centerfire rifles are no good. Don't waste your money. Their shotguns are good though. The Ruger American, Savage Axis, Stevens 334, would all better better options. Rem 783 probably ok too. If spending a bit more look at Howa ,Tikka. Savage 110. 20 gauge is pretty good for youth. 350 Legend doesn't recoil much at all. There is also a 400 Legend. 44 mag and 50 cal muzzleloaders are good options. You can load down the charge on a muzzleloader, and use lighter bullets to tame recoil. I'm seeing Ruger A rifles at $404 at the moment. CVA makes single shots in centerfire rounds like 44mag. Could be safer for youth getting started, being one at a time. If you practice, you can get quit quick. Same with muzzleloader reloading, you can get pretty quick once you practice.
How about a tutorial on adjusting a Mil scope for drop while shooting long distance. Not the deep drive science of Mil vs. MOA, but really useful info. For instance, you're in the brush and just walk out to the edge of open field. Spot a buck, or may cast hog out between 100 meters or so. I am dial in on between 25 to 75 meters. Now apply the math and figure incorrectly and miss and opportunity. Just an idea 💡
I like to employ a 200 yard zero for the most part. This applies to standard cartridges like .270 and .30/06, as well as most magnums. This puts the point of impact 2 to 3 inches high at 100 yards and 6 to 8 inches low at 300 yards (varies depending on the load being used). This is a very simple method and will keep your shots within the vital area from 0 to 300 yards (okay maybe 325 for the magnums) without the need for any sort of ballistic holdover reticle. Distances much beyond 300 yards are going to require a dial capable scope, precise laser rangefinder, and the use of drop charts appropriate for the load being used; another ball game. The mil-dot reticle can indeed be used for range estimates at long distance but this is more applicable to battle where a hit is a hit rather than for hunting where we must strive to make precise and ethical shots as best we can. The best use for a ballistic reticle when hunting is for windage correction as you dial for elevation and hold off for wind. I like to keep it simple with a regular duplex reticle and a 200 yard zero. Best regards.
@Craig-r8r2s good advice. I usually zero 100 yards and feel confident of making shots between 75 to 125 yrds. 200 yrds was advised years ago with my 260 remington. Thank you for your time.
Ok, You got a lifetime of experience. But Kids should be allowed to practice(With advice) with smaller bores till they get confortableand then with the bigger ones. Having a Father OR Grandfather with experience and a few guns. Weight?? well you make due with what you got. My first was Target Walter LG airgun arround 10-11. I lugged that one everywhere in the woods. The most important lesson was that I had to sneak up to 10-15 yds to make a kill shot
Thanks Why Are There Still Shotgun States ?
Rifles shot too far for a close population. 🪦🔫
How about a video going over the history and development of popular wartime cartridges from each combatant nation?
good to see you
Thanks for all the videos, you taught us so much, most of all how to think with our own heads... Nowadays it's hard for a new shooter to make a difference between advertising myths and proper knowledge.
My question is what is your opinion on lapping scope rings? I've had plenty without but lately a lot of manufacturers are cutting back on quality on every level so they can save a couple pennies and it might make lapping necessary. I'd love to see your take on this.
G'day & cheers for the videos, would you make a video on how to clean a laminated rifle & the best way stuff to use, Cheers From Oz
Gunblue490,with regard to reloading. Would you consider a video experimenting with brass tumbling, comparing wet vs dry methods, different concoctions and the benefits of each?
You should check out the single shot break open rifles H&R, rossi,thompson 308 put a pacmeyer butt plate.
Thank you for the talk. I had often heard of the 7mm-08 being a lighter recoil option for younger shooters, and easily terminal to 200 yds. Basically a tamed .270. I had been looking for one myself for a test. Interested in any first hand accounts.
You're not wrong. It's a terrific deer cartridge.
Regardless, you could have them shoot “off hand” at first to get conditioned to the recoil, before they shoot bench rested where there’s more wallup.
I got lucky when I had to make this choice for my son. I have a close friend who was a game warden. He heard me talking about my Dad having my brother's and I "cut our teeth" with a 30-30 lever action. He had seen accidental discharges with them, so he gave me a lot of grief. I decided a bolt action .243 would be right. My local shop didn't have any, but did have a like new, used .308. It was a Ruger M77 with a Leupold scope. That all-weather ("boat paddle") model. He talked me into it. My son took a buck and a doe at age 12 and, 21 years later, still loves that rifle.