What is the cheapest gas boiler I can buy today in 2024
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2024
- Derek in this video needs to replace a boiler at the training centre so he goes to his local city plumbing, screwfix and B and Q to see if he can buy the cheapest boiler he can that day.
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ive fitted one of these to customers choice, fitting it was a doddle i actually quite liked the bracket incoorprtated onto the boiler itself. Thanks for the breakdown of parts does look a simple one to fix.
Thanks Derek. That was a very interesting and accurate video❤
As a kid in the 80s the old boiler was a block of cast iron with a control valve that hung down by the wires. And it was bomb proof . Not a curcuit board or sensor in site.
Thanks, great video 👍
Great video mate. Looks OK to me.
Main eco is are best boiler fors the money.
Great video ❤
Is that a new make of boiler “Excusive”😂🤣👍
Can’t beat a good spelling mistake 😋👍🏻
Looks similar to the compact I fitted in my own house a few months ago. Wish I had fitted the Navian tbh.
Intergas boilers are some of the cheapest and the best , retired lifeboatman
Before I became a gas engineer I had an ariston combi boiler that lasted 19 years with zero repairs. As there advert said Ariston On and On and On
Wish ours did 😂👍🏻
I knew of a Microgenus that lasted 15 years. Auto air vent packed up. Only problem. Replaced only because of a refurb. Replaced with an Intergas now fitted for 6.5 years and not a whimper from it. Built like a tank.
My go to cheap boiler is the main eco compact. About the same price as the glowworm but you get much more for your money. Fitted a navien recently and that was also fairly decent for the money, just didn't like the exposed valves on the bottom of it.
And just a slight correction on the 830 at screwfix, it's the combi2 which is compatible with both natural gas and lpg out the box but I admit screwfix's wording do make you think it's an lpg boiler.
The main eco compact really is an excellent boiler.
With you on that one. Love Main eco compacts
Looks okay,not sure about the plastic hydro block over time.Cheers Derek.
You would hope they had learned their lesson on those.
After having a Viessmann 200W for nearly 14 years & loving the reliability, I won't even think of going to anyone else's boiler manufacturer, well built well designed for ease of service, if i was a plumber heating engineer I wouldn't think of installing any other makes, would make my life easy with happy satisfied customers 👍 I worked in the Aerospace Defence Manufacturing industry as a qualification verification test engineer, I'm very fussy when it comes to quality & performance,
I read how much Viessmann put into research it's many millions, quality German Engineering ❤👍
Spare parts are not off the shelf though. Decent boilers but Baxi is my choice.
Yoi should try Intergas boilers - great piece of kit😊
My cheap goto boiler + flue is an alpha e-tec 28 KW from Wolsley with a 7 year warranty for £710 incl vat. It's a decent boiler and even has a stainless steel heat exchanger. PRV is built into the condense so one less thing to do!
I've the alpha intec28kw. I'd say I'm happy with it, except for the e96 and that it won't integrate with things like opentherm.
It was a godsend when my old combi failed and needed a cheap replacement.
the company I work for fitted 180+ alpha boilers last year with no issues and only 3 manufacturer call backs on the other hand done 30 Worcester boilers and had 70+ manufacturer call backs I was worcester through and through but I have lost faith in them I am finding 3rd service on new Worcesters the electrodes are like tooth picks. Not impressed but although I was sceptical re the Alpha boilers I was pleasantly surprised by them easy to install really easy to strip for servicing only time will tell
My vokera lasted 9 years and went wrong diverter valve and i decided to put a ideal in insted of fixing it as it was showing other signs of issues of strange water marks on the heat exchanger
I'd be interested in watching a Worcester 1000 video before the increase they were below £600 +vat for the 24kw !!
Caught that padding slightly with me blow lamp.
Went up like a volcano.
Copper tails would be nice. Scary shite haha.
That was my fears when I saw it
That happened to my mate
I only install the one brand of boilers. The only difference would be the warranty the customer wants. I really like the Glow-worm Energy , great boiler to install and service. The cheapest brand of boilers I come across imo would be the Vokera. They have several issues.
Me Gloworm CXI 24 still going after 8 years. I've no doubt it's not got long left but I'll run it till it dies!
Nice one mate ❤
This is good to know for all those customers who want cheap as chips boilers
Baxi/ Main eco decent cheap boiler
The fitting of the boiler costs just as much as buying it, if you can not do it yourself, i think Ideal are a great budget boiler.
long term, the cheapest is not often the cheapest
Navien are cheap and quality. Biggest combi maker in the world. Korea.
I have a Vaillant VCW 242 EH combi compact, 30+ years old, still going strong. Dreading the the day i have to change it.
Fitted a few, major plus the flue is centre, but I didn’t like no hanging bracket
Vokera easiheat ? Is cheap and 7 yr warranty apparently. Before everything kicks off about them , in 1997 i went to get a vertical fan flued system boiler like Derek did to takeaway. All i could get was a Vokera Mynute. It is still on the wall and since 1997 it has had two control boxes swapped as they had intermittent faults , a limit stat and even the original pump only stopped in July 2023 so its been great bearing in mind i had my doubts about it .
It may be going this summer tnough for a viessman 111 w if I can find someone to do it🤷
Surely the next question which boiler is the cheapest to maintain over its manufactuer warranty peroid . Servicing parts cost can vary hugely from each manufacturer
Definitely look at the Main eco compact, cheap but very good boiler quality parts including a s/s heat/x, as the yanks say best bang for your buck
Mrcentralheating and Williams are the two cheapest network merchants .
WB Greenstar 1000 surprisingly cheap but slightly noisier than the rest of the WB range and less control options available.
Also worth noting, officially the 1000 needs a burner seal replacing each annual service to maintain the 5 year warranty. Got this info a week before I was due to fit one when doing WB product training...so back to the Main Eco Compact.
Best boiler is Intergas - well engineered - diverter valve not necessary - brilliant design Very reliable - excellent value.
What’s the betting that the price won’t come down now that the government has dropped the boiler tax.
About the same odds as winning the Spanish Lottery with a Canadian ticket....
Ech seems tobe the budget choice or the top end glow worm or main
Looks very light so you should be able to nip it straight on install.
As a customer, i personally believe that value for money is best fit for me. Last year i had to replace my 30+ year old Glowworm hideaway. In the end i went for an Ideal combi max plus c35. Yes it was expensive, but its made in England and has a 10yr warranty.
Ideal have had a massive recall on their boilers, any suppliers stocking them have been told to not sell them…Google it…it’s not all their boilers…but quite a few
I really can't be bothered to lay my new boiler flat in the back of the van! Just throw it in!
Nobody takes a blind bit of notice of stick on lables, might as well bin 'em. They changed the electrical regs so you don't have to plaster consumer units with inane lables anymore.
Got a question for you. Boiler is in loft. The only way a condense can be run is about 14 meters to nearest point. Out wall from boiler then to gully . Can’t drop in house anywhere can’t fit a soak away. So what’s the options ….
Pump
@@tomkatgastraining even if dropping all the way. I thought pump would only help if the condense has to rise
Even if the gov scraps the fine - manufacturers won't drop the prices. It's just conviniently up there, why make less money...
Hi ya. As it is so small do you think it would be suitable under the kitchen worktop in the corner ?
rgds Don
I wouldn’t like to service or repair if it’s fitted there
It’s possible but it’s super tight and filer has to be elsewhere, better with a boiler that has a rear flue such as baxi heat our rental had it like that you could hear the strip down service engineer down the end of yhe street he was not amused
You would not be able to fit most boilers under the worktop as you would not have the clearance below the appliance needed for maintenance. Also you would have no warranty as the manufacturer 's instructions have not been adhered to.
nice little boilers ,get the pipe bender out .....
Is it an aluminium heat exchanger?
Stainless steel
i got the ideal behind you - what do you reckon?
Ideal make good boilers at a reasonable price
Hi
Is this combi compatible with the Glow-worm Climapro2 controller (ebus) and external temprature sensor
I believe so it has ebus
@tomkatgastraining Thanks Derek, looking forward to seeing install
Having ebus means we are snookerd into having to fit manufacturers own controls (Valiant/GW) which means it's not a cheap option after all. Most people on a tight budget will fit a third party cheap thermostat and not be able to take advantage of opentherm. They would be better off getting a slightly more expensive boiler that has OT capabilities.
I’m now retired but still enjoy your honest down to earth utube content. I use to work for Glowworm/ Vaillant so I’ve worked on most if not all there boilers new and old. Never been a fan of plastic manifolds on Glowworm or any other manufacturer but I’ve got to say Glowworm aren’t the worst. I’m impressed with the addition of a stainless steel heat exchanger on such a budget boiler so to me that’s a plus. The aluminium heat exchanger was a pain particularly when the boiler had a few years under its belt , condense water and aluminium don’t mix and most of the problems was caused by the lack of proper strip servicing. The rubber pipe on the AAV was an addition they did a few years ago , it was done to vent any explosive gasses from the heating system outside the boiler casing because I think there was incident were a build up of gas in the room sealed case ignited, but I think the boiler was LPG. Thanks for a great video.
I believe it is compatible with climapro ebus range of controllers.
They are a bag of scrap, Dirk, Why are you not registered with Williams (Trade only) To buy all your gear ,They have a branch in Manchester.Oh by the way it’s raining here in my retirement apartment in Margarita Venezuela. Keep The Faith .LondonPaul.
Somebody stole your roof?
Why can I fit an LPG system to a vehicle without any qualification, but to fit it in a house you need to be gas safe if you get it wrong on a vehicle it could still be a big explosion.
The cheapest AKA rental homes boilers that i can get from my local plumbing store are Biasi Basica 24C 24KW Combi Boiler & Flue £612.24 OR Vokera Easi-Heat i 25C 25kw Combi boiler & Flue £624.95
The time clock is a waste of time because you still need a boiler plus room stat .
Taco pumps are big here in the states
Are they reliable ?
@@briansyme7722 they are okay I prefer grundfoss
Great boiler if you have a bad back ;)
Yeah I noticed how he tossed it in the back of his van. I thought either that fella's stronger than he looks, or that boiler is really light.
😂👍@@markrainford1219
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Ashton BQ ! Do you live in the area ? Its my local BQ
I don’t live in that area but my training centre is in Ashton under Lyne
Haha……..I overtook you on the M2 today 🤣
I was on my way to Dover I am in France for a week. Not called William by any chance 😁
@@tomkatgastraining Happy Holidays 👍🏼
Don’t go bringing any ELM Leblanc’s back they can keep them.
As a trainee gas engineer looking to get my flue gas analyser any suggestions much appreciated 🙏
To start off you can’t beat TPI for value
The Anton sprint basic model is a good instrument for the price. You have to decide what you need it to do, if it's just to test flue gases then this is all you need but if you want thermometers and extras the costs go up. Also, it needs to be calibrated every 12 months which will cost you £130.
Thank you very much
Anton obsoleted my v2 analyser. I changed to Kane. Much faster recalibration service too.
No , hard to work on it , not my preference
Trade price?
see alot of navien in america trying to get off oil
chinesium parts no doubt, much like a disposable built-in obsolescence washing machine
City Plumbing should be City supporters .🧐
Great Britain
Worcester 1000
£550+
Screwfix never have anything it stock!😅
Don’t forget Toolstation
I can’t see B&Q or Screwfix being cheap for boilers
Screwfix sells Ariston boilers
My budget boiler is the main combi its cheap an easy to install an has 5yrs warranty
What is the warranty? It would be good to retro fit into a property and monitor for a year
5 years I believe
Even Vaillant stainless hx LEAK & when a lazy condense pipe internal you miss where there leaking: hate all these cheats on what is best: our choice Intergas few £ more than your Glow Worm.
How about trying to get a CHEAP heat pump. Let us know how you get on.
Don’t think that exists 😂
Heat pumps are to expensive to run and at the moment not worth it
I can’t see past WB in the uk.
For cheap boiles?
Quality? Go Intergas.
WB are really awful boilers, incredibly badly designed.
Nothing wrong with glow worm but the inside looks like a nightmare to work on.
The energy model is great to work on imo. Their Flexicom range was slightly more awkward. The PRV on the Energy for example is easier to replace compared to the Flexicom range but still nowhere near as bad to change as the Worcester Greenstar.
Navien lcb300🎉🎉🎉🎉
You get what you pay for
B&Q own screwfix
Screwfix don't stock. boilers are sent direct from the manufacturers. Don't know why the boiler comes with analogue option? Isn't it at very least supposed to be "smart" now days.
Analogue simpler to use for people like me.
Inter gas fit and forget
Ravenheat..😂
my ravenheat still going strong bot BQ nearly 30 years ago ony ever changed diverter valve 3 times
@@magnus9701 😊👌🏻
Cheapest old boiler...
Is a valiant in disguise ?
Said valiant in the back.
Get the cheapo one as well squire
Awful things cheap and nasty navien much better but for the price the baxi main eco compact is youre boy much better build quality and reliable.woh does anyone remember the heatline vizo 😢
Drop prices? One word. Doubtful.
Be smart, buy Viessmann.
Fitted 12 not one call back on them, nice and easy to wire but to be honest I'd put an alpha etec over one of them
A Kettle
You'll be lucky to get 7 years out of that piece of crap. Gloworm and vokera are the worst boilers on sale in ireland and all our stock comes from the UK. I got a quote for a 24kw worcester system today and it was €1435 inc vat. Youll get twice the lifespan at least with this boiler. Ideal are the best value option and they give a 7 year warranty on there Logic model. Baxi are also good value. The boilers that i replace in dublin are either 30 year old bulletproof pottertons or vokeras and gloworm pieces of crap. The best advice is dont buy the cheapest boiler on the market unless you want to pay more money for parts or a replacement.
Agree with Vokera and glow worm are crap but I would jump up and down about worchester Bosch boiler better yes but not great
@davidlewi1313 I've a greenstar which is 13 years old and the only thing wrong with it is the expansion vessel. I very rarely change parts on worcesters. Viessman is the best but I'd highly recommend worcester.
Worchester Bosch Full of plastic, rubber gas valve connection to fan, prv a nightmare to access,flow turbine leaks very common that’s why they put green cap below flow turbine, internal filling loop crap.
Don't agree about Vokera boilers,I have a Vokera Unica 28 he which is 14 years old with only 2 repairs,still going strong with a service every 3 years with a filter and water treatment checked regularly.Lots of videos of faulty Ideal boilers as well as Vaillant boilers but few of Vokera maybe I have got a good one ,comments please.
The Glow Worm is a Vaillant.
why are you buying boilers i see your wearing an ideal coat couldnt the ideal rep or another manufacturer have given you a boiler so they can wreck? so lpg or nat gas can you find out for me if the flue seals are different. ive found running glowworm aka vaillant (both acctually)at low temps but within MI tollerances in the past have been problematic. they changed flue seals from black to a red more silicone based seal? then ammended the MI to say the boilers shouldnt be run below a certain temp. you are at a guess running on lpg at your test center. or nat gas?
was that all plastic i could see under the boiler and you said no tails. zee germans eh. press fit how long do the rubber seals last? ebus too i thought everyone while we were in eupore agreed to the same. am i right in thinking ebus is only supplied by germans. is bosch on ebus too or is that something else? ie do they lock customers in to boiler products only supplied by them, with
inerent flaws they only know.
edit. do you stick it on the wall or take it back to mr evans ceo of city plumbing supplies. box it up and send it back. i see you unboxed it very carefully.
Reduce prices lol
Vokera are cheap .
BEWARE of the cheap boilers. had one for i year - had to replace it. Unreliable, terrible after sales service.
Stop doing videos like this you'll have every landlord in britain on the phone saying I've seen a video on RUclips. 🤷🏻 Your killing me.
Not my choice
False economy
Donald Trump
Rubbish.
Vokera Easiheat i is the cheapest Combi. A great wee boiler for the money Del👍👍
Which is the best?
@@robertallardice8119 The Vokera has lots of redeeming features & a rock bottom price!!
I also like the Main Eco Compact & the WB Greenstar 1000. A few of the National merchants were selling the WB 1000 very cheap. But I guess it depends on their stock & your Merchant Terms.
I think Vokera give a 7 year warranty with that boiler so it's well worth buying. The money you saved in not going with Valiant or WB you can throw it away after 7 years and buy another one.