Honda Civic 1.7 - Crank No Start
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- Опубликовано: 25 дек 2015
- Well the description says it all. We have this Honda Civic 1.7 that got towed in with a "crank no start." It was an easy mystery to solve though...
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"Uh-oh, the little rubber band under the hood broke!". Lmao, thanks Eric that made my morning
165 04 ? At 1:47 I see 165104 ! The owner is a gambler
I bought a 04 civic ex with 130k with broken timing belt for $500. The body and interior was immaculate!! I just bought a jdm engine for $550, a gasket kit for about $100, and a timing belt/water pump kit for $70. After all said and done, I had a running car for around $1300. Still have it 4 years/80k miles later!
Nice. Being able to do your own work opens up so many possibilities.
I bought a JDM d17 engine I only had it for 1 month the engine turned off on the freeway now it has a slow/ no crank , the timing belt is still on. Any recommendations ?
You bought a ricer
@@joelarso5348 Ricer? You are about 45 years too late, Japanese cars and engines are now some of the best in the world right up there with the Lasanya Lambo. lol
Do you still have it? (Vid is 3 years old.)
Takes me back a few years ago. They pack everything in such a tight space. Glad to see you didn’t have the antilock brake D block behind the washer fill. My 2002 with 238k miles had something get into the main pulley, tore the time cover to pieces and gasket slipped the timing belt off. Bent 4 valves, and I was reliving my adventure of doing that very job watching your video. Of course I’m old school so no fancy gadgets just the standard knowledge of sounds and mechanical sense. Great videos!
Great diagnostics. That Civic is definitely an interference engine. Looks like those pistons kissed the valves for sure. A lot of the Civics, Accords, Preludes are interference engines. Its a bad day when a Honda timing belt breaks. Best option for your customer is a different completely rebuilt head $240-$300 , $250 head gasket set with bolts, belt, tensioner, water pump etc. Thats if he can salvaged the pistons, in some cases you can unless they have a hole. But he has to do it his self DIY. My daughter just did a head gasket on this same engine 1.7L the video will be out soon. Great work South Main you handle your content like a real boss, God Bless.
+oldskool funk Hey man good to see ya over here on the SMA Channel. I enjoy your videos and the way you approach ministry. Good to hear from you :)
Old Skool funk and SMA! Thank you two for posting such great videos! I was inspired to work on car engines because of your guides and tutorials. Currently working on the exact same engine. Previous owner's engine died from oil starvation and I am ripping the old one out to put lower mileage engine in. 130k miles. Getting new timing belt, Water pump, serp belts, from and rear main seals while at it. Keep it up!
@Payton Izaiah Why is this comment showing up on so many channels? Sounds like a scam.
"Riding the ol' shoe leather express" had me cracking up hard. You keep me laughing constantly with your wit there Mr. O.
I know it has been 7 years since you made this video, but it is trouble shooting gold. You have a good ear 👍
great video, you showed every aspect of proper diagnostic troubleshooting. yeah your labor rates are cheap for the work you do. you are a blessing to your customers.
@3:45 ahahaha I had a similar situation with my wife... had a mechanic tell us the MAP sensor went bad and the wife had a blank look on her face... come to find out she thought the mechanic was trying to cheat us... she told me in private "we dont have GPS on the car so how can the MAP sensor go bad".... ohhh that was some funny shi....
Ernie Beltran ahahahahaha that’s too good! 😆
She tried
Hahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahaha that was great ! LMAO 😂
@Ernie, That's really cute!
That was funny... thank you for sharing the moment with us sir
Eric is sending one to the scrap heap after 20 minutes and Ivan is gettin' all DIY over the weekend saving one from the scrapper! It's a great day for South Main and Pine Hollow fans! Keep em' coming guys.
+Baxrok2 so true that POS that Ivan's working on.. but you have to give it up that engine is in great shape.. not so true for the front end.. wonder what the undercarriage looks like.. All I could see what the main beam COVERED in dirty oil..I'm sure the oil is just holding the rust together...
+Mike Pratali The cars down by him are in way better shape than the toilets here let me tell ya. They use very little salt down there.
+Mike Pratali The Prizm rockers are 100% aluminum roof flashing and bondo crafted by yours truly :) But honestly the rest of it looks pretty dang clean, original brake lines and all! Red spray paint is cheap :)
motoYam82 the classic DuPont overhaul!
Another high quality video with a thorough analysis and diagnosis. Keep up the good work and I'll keep learning from every video.
You know your business for sure Bud. I would have been cussing from the get go, dropping bolts, losing tools. I was impressed.
A lot of people don't know about timing belt maintenance and if the people that do his repairs don't suggest it to the customer that's what happens. It appears that he had regular oil changes done however. It's spotless inside. Nice job, Eric.
Good video eric o always glad to watch you at work my friend keep up the good work.
had my old 91 civc. done around. 115k belt was stretched. great little. car., body going 08. but. still ran like. a champ. great vid
Proof positive. Never skimp on timing belt changes. When the owners manual says its time to replace it, get it replaced.
Nick V thats the.number rule. My car is at 60,000 recommended change. Tho I had a 94 cavalier with a timing chain lasted over 100,000 miles.
I had an 86 Camry with an interval of 90K. I made it to 90001 when the belt failed... Luckily non- interference.
Marco Rubio chain not belt much different
Or do what I did and get a Honda with a timing chain.
hxtr timing chains also stretch and skip teeth. Most people think timing chains are the be all end all, they aren’t. They are better than Belts but with newer cars they have sides and guides. It’s not like the old 350 motors with a chain and gears only. Still have some of the same belt problems.
Great video. Like how you double check that everything else is right before the repair. Great job.
Eric, congratulations for your 20k subs =)
Eric, i inherited a 2000 civic 1.7 with 80k on the clock. She is a great commuter car stingy on gas. Luv it. Another awesome video
Thanks for this video : ) Showing my teenage drivers this video. I have suggested to them save your car, follow the manual scheduled maintenance. D'oh Saves $$$ and time away from the "shoe leather express."
When I first came across your videos I thought you were saying "Welcome to the Self Made Auto Channel" lol
Keep up the great work! Looking forward to your tool link.
Happy New Year Eric may God Bless you and your family...
Hey man good for you on your wonderful business and happy family.
The wife and I love watching all of your videos, and Mrs. O is indeed quite a great wife and it's always good to see her in the shop! Thanks for posting all of these great videos!
+Matt Cool glad you like them :)
Awesome channel Eric O I enjoy all your videos Im a Master ASE technician also Master Honda tech with 28 years experience I love watching your videos as well as others You can ALWAYS learn something new if you keep your eyes and ears open. I always love the break parts cleaner LOL that stuff is useful in soooooooo many ways ! Keep em coming bro !
+Grabblin Mechanic Haha glad you enjoy. I don't have any of those fancy patches. ETCG does and that is why he is the real master mechanic of YT. Thanks for watching :)
Just ordered my Astro Nano 3/8 impact, had to have it after I saw ur video with the dodge! Going to be getting a few things from ur store, Thanks Eric!
+Rick James Thanks we appreciate that.
Great video its nice to see someone that knows what he's doing working on a car very rare.
The coffee cup on top of the engine at the beginning of the video reminded me of how my mom's uncle used to set the timing on older cars. With the motor running he'd put his cup of Joe on top of the motor then turn the distributor until the ripples in the coffee were gone.
Love your videos I learn heaps!
Very good video thanks for your optimism and joy
Why do I enjoy watching this? I can't stop watching...
Great video ! Good to see that the guard dog is almost on the job 😊
+N Smith Pfff only way she'd come over to get someone is if they had a cheeseburger lol
Great video right away you know what was going on in the car, love it thank you
Excellent vid, shows why you should follow the manufacturer's scheduled service intervals (not the dealers). With proper maintenance that's easily a 225-300k mile cars. I assumed Honda 4 cylinders were all chain driven, I was wrong. I would have had you fix it, still cheaper than a replacement at that time and you would have done the job right.
I bet the timing belt shredded partially, jumped time, but kept spinning the cams out of time to cause the carnage. FUBAR!
The most bulletproof t-belt engine that I've come across is the Toy-oater 3.4L V6 ('96 to '04 4-Runner, Tacoma). Non-interference and a wide beefy belt. Have a customer with 200k on his original belt on an '04 Tacoma...runs like new :)
+motoYam82 Only diagnoses that really make senses. Jump timing would account for all cylinders with valves being tagged by a piston.
Agreed.
I have done about a dozen Hondas like this and never even check for valves bending I throw a new belt on and 100% of the time they have been good to go. ALso my turbo Honda has like 5 bent valves still drive it every week without issues. 450hp 1.6
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@@mashedpotatoes5323 very funny
There is a large amount of junk on RUclips but I have to say that I always learn something from these videos.
Moral of the story on this one? Change those timing belts as recommended in owner's manual.
great video Eric'o !!!!
Good video once again. Thanks for the stickers and magnet.
Great diagnosis Eric.
A very good woman that supports your cause, Eric. I've got one too. We're very lucky. Because of them, we go.
Yo Eric.
I'm at work today too, and I'm not self employed.
Merry Christmas to you and the clan.
I like the tools you use I bought that 1128 air ratchet
A thumbs up SMA video production! Great diagnosis on the engine condition and good to see that before making any replacement part decisions. At 5:00 the word description. Also, can you add to your amazon store the pry bar you used on the valve cover.
+Sandbag1300 Ouch , I need to talk to my editing department on that one haha oh wait I don't have one of those. As far as the bars they are snap-on so no I can't add them there. Good eye though :)
I'm surprised and happy for you that you've never seen that before. I've only never seen them hit the valves once. Merry day after Christmas.
+AssGrabber B Yeah I tell ya , if I wasn't doing a vid I might have just hung a belt on it :/
I was hoping to see the ritual you had for a similar diagnosis you did on a vehicle that ended up going to el deshuesadero .cannot remember the title of the video,but it looked like you thank (it)for the service it provided during its life time.ho well, maybe next time.thank you Eric and fine co workers on your team.
Nice post mortem! Great channel
I know of a place called Japan Direct and they will change out a motor with a used one for about a grand of so! Worked great on my 02 Civic!!!
Great video !
Thank you very much for taking your precious time to show us how a broken timing belt looks like. A lot of us doesnt know how some of the problems look like and believe our mechanics. This can prevent a lot of "ripoffs".
Send it over Ivan, he's doing a valve job on a Prizm. Broke a timing belt on a 73 Hondo Civic. Was doubling clutching as I was downshifting from 4th to second and just as I was coming out of the curve hit the redline and that was all she wrote. Had my dad help me tow her back home and before the night was over, I had a new belt on her and was ready for some more fun with the Hondo. Love that car, great on gas and because she was a rust bucket I could park her anywhere and not worry about door dings.
+Upallnight This is an automatic. Send it to the crusher Eric, no regrets haha
That little honda engine looks real clean! I bet they changed the oil very regularly.
Great video. I wonder if that timing belt was original. My 2009 Civic has a timing chain and I was told that it doesn't need to be serviced unless it stretches. It already has 150,000 miles and still runs like new.
Good profesor # 1 thankyou dude
Yep don't skimp! I did the timing belt, water pump, tensioner, spring, upper and lower timing cover, and head gasket at 208,000 miles, and i saw pieces of the timing cover gasket on the floor!. One cold day in Houston, went to crank it and nothing. But i looked at this video as well as old school funks vids to help me fix it!!!!!!!! Still running strong!!!!
Lovely . Mrs O
Great video ... Thank you!
"Must be from the VTEC." That cracked me up hahaha.
It doesn't even have VTEC hahaha. It's a D17A1.
@@nashstephenson1877 Shitty engine, give me the D16Y8 or a D16Z6 instead. Or even better, give me a B20B high compression and ill drop it in easily.
Man Eric I've never ever seen a Honda hit. Personally I don't like them, but in my experience they're excellent cars. Really surprised. Not about the timing belt because if you neglect anything it's gonna break, but frankly I'm pretty taken aback by it.
hi, great vids guy, I work on my own cars, a 1999 xj, 2002 ford e150, 200o buick century. 2011 nissan 1.6 versa and my project car 1984 mercedes 300sd. i always watch your vids to see if any of mine come in. good work.
Great video
love your show, very inspirational, loll
good practical video, thanks...
I did the timing belt on my Zetec Ford Focus... DOHC.. "Fun" project. As long as you win, it's a good day.
At least you don't have those valve seat dropping 2.0L Split Port engines.
I appreciate this video! My son has the same car and year and that sound is exactly what his car sounds like.
great video
Nice video
I just Bought one with a broken timing belt, Cylinder 1 & 3 Intake valves bent 1.7L engine.I also had the same thought that valves don't bend on the civic's but you learn some thing new every day.
+MrAKPAPA78 Sure do!
thank you for the real life diagnosis video
And I thought I had a nice Roackauto magnet collection, you got me beat.
+EZRider1979 That is only a 1/4 of it haha
In the junkyards we use to scope the pistons by removing sparkplugs. 5 minute to tell if valves are shot plus the general shape and rust from sitting
Good video! Thanks! Hey, what's that swivel air hose attachment? I want one!
Hey Eric, Enjoy every vid. The " its all over but the crying" - perfect!!! Just curious on the history of this 1.7 belt, Did owner ever change or is it the original?
Appreciate this video acquired a 02 civic ex that some one did a head gasket job on my buddy and I are trying to hook everything else back up Ive managed to get power going and thanks to your video found the crank sensor plug. Verified that timing belt is good but motor cranks but no spark seems to have power going to the coils but not a one of them has spark. Any thoughts? Checked for an easier means of contact in your video description but comment it is! Thanks in advanced and thanks for your time.
Yeah. I had that happen on a 2004 Aveo LS at about 120K. The damage to the engine was minor despite me being on the gas at the time (had it floored going about 70 on the highway, trying to get around a truck). In my case, it was a pulley that broke. My dad and I did the job, and it went surprisingly well. Kicked up and ran for a while. The bottom end of the motor went about 20,000 miles later due to oil pressure issues that developed with that motor. Sold it for a grand and got the Taurus a few months later.
Thanks so much man.
thank you for the amazon store i was going to ask where to go that astro light from
love the new intro sounds like a 4.0l inline 6 jeep engine cranking over
Great store. Now I can stop bugging you
I just replaced the head gasket on one of these. Cousin moved down here with it from Buffalo. I'm in Texas. I've never seen so much rust in my life.
Yeah man same here, I'm in Houston, and all these vids from the east coast have so much rust, but we got tons of rain and humidity!!!!!
@@dmonster808 it's from the snow and they salt the roads
The opening starter sounds, my guess are coming from a Plymouth Fury, old one? Thanks for the video.
Cool hoodcam Eric.
Can u do a tool box tour sometime
Great wife you have there. Truly blessed.
At 11:16 Eric says 'Alaska, baked'. But in my mind it was 'Baked Alaska'. That must be why I'm overweight. LOL
good job amigo
great vid as always! i need some of your knowledge 2000 chevy express 1500 5.7 crank no start, i changed the crank sensor, ignition coil, and icm, and i checked all fuses there good and when i hook up the scanner it say no communication. any tips? thank you
Experienced mechanics just amaze me. One quick turn of the key and this guy knows what's up.
I have 2001 Honda Civic. Car doesn't starts in the cold weather. When the weather is good, it starts usually. What could be reason?
I had a 2003 with the 2.4 4 cylinder. That engine was interference fit and at about 240,000km she let go and bent the no.2 intake valve. No head or piston damage so a whack of new parts and off she goes !
Regardless of OEM recommendations I've always been confident of belts and chains until about 200,000km ( 120,00 miles ? )
IMO at 200 ( 120 ) change it just do it regardless of what the book says.
Love Mrs. O's reaction! I can vouch for the Astro 1128 ratchet, bought it through amazon and it has some nut to it for it's size. Definitely worth the money.
+rider9195 I love that little tool
+South Main Auto Repair hey bud what the brand or model number on that leak down tester you got there
it is a snap-on
hey eric,before you do a timing chain job or head gasket ,lets say on a sohc engine,you put the cyl1 on tdc ,the valves are close for compression stroke,that's tsc?right? does that all timing mark are aligned?is it safe to work on the engine at this point as long as you put the tools to hold your cam shaft in place. thanks
Eric I'm learning sounds of an engine good and bad, is it possible to do a demonstration of a known good compression vs a known bad compression sound. I would watch it over and over!
Hey Mrs. O! You might want to bookmark this video incase you ever need to diagnose a broken timing belt. :P
I have a question Eric O my pathfinder 08 is jumping everytime I drive my car would slip like u pressing the gas quick but I'm not it's jumping do u know what would be the cause of that
Love the tool store. I took care of my Christmas there a couple of days ago. :) Loved the video, great lesson for me on how to perform a leak down test...more tools needed!
+wyattoneable Thanks, well we always need more tools right?
I like what you said. So I'm installing a piston cuz I had a bearing take a poop in cylinder 3. Well since replacing said new piston and getting it to timing it's still not working. But how am I gonna check things after I try things unless I turn it over to see if it starts. So kudos that was nice and made me feel better about feeling stupid as dumb as that is to say haha
Arrr shucks. Would have been EPIC to see another multi part video series on doing the head on a Honda engine. The RAV4 and EJ253 vids were epic.
If it was a manual transmission it might have been worth getting an engine from a scrap yard, but chances are the transmission doesn't have much life left in it at 165k and probably not a whole load of maintenance. I prefer Toyota's. But my sister has whats sold in the US as a Honda fit. Its literally had nothing go wrong with it in 9 years/70,000 miles besides some judder in the CVT that a fluid change fixed. Its a strange engine, 1.4 petrol, SOHC and its chain driven. Its actually as efficient as a diesel if you drive it properly. Gotta love Asian vehicles.
I had an 03 civic 1.7 with 400 000 km on the tranny when I sold it and it's still on the rd 4 years later
Jap engines and gearboxes have good tolerance in their builds.
ordered a hoodie even tho i live in PA, i support the channel. if only napa sponsored that’d be great
Honda recommends 90,000 for a timing belt change, which is when my neighbor had his done at the dealer, but they screwed up the job and didn't even use a Honda timing belt, the tensioner spring had come off and was wedged between the crank pulley and the crank sensor, thank goodness the engine wasn't damaged, I replaced everything with genuine Honda parts and it ran great, they used a dayco belt that wasn't even the right width.
Eric did you roll crank over so all the pistons were down in bores so when you were turning cam with the wrench the valves could no touch pistons?
Sheba was on her "LUNCH" hour!😁
hey i was wondering what the difference between a no compression sound and flooded sound. To me they sound very similar. Thanks for the vid
You ever do any timing belts on Ford Zetec motors? I got an 03 Escape with 176k on it and have no idea if the belt has ever been changed. I am a little scared of tackling it. Wondered if you had any pointers.