Honda DIY Head Gasket - Vehicle Will Not Start Now
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
- There is an old sayin', "Some times you get the bear and sometimes the bear get's you." In the case ogf this van the bear got the owner. He and a friend attempted to DIY their head gaskets on this 2004 Honda Odyssey and unfortunately the crank gear has two marks on. Some of you know where I am going with this.... -Enjoy!
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My first big DIY project was a timing belt on a 90 Acura Legend. I had one 100+ piece tool set from the local parts store that used for oil changes and brake work. I also had Haynes repair book for a reference. I had been given a price of $350 plus parts by friend of mine but he was working on a big project and really didn’t have time or space for my car. So I gave myself a $350 budget for tools, parts and transportation being I had no working car. It took three day ( few hours a day after work) and cost well under budget. I replaced water pump, timing belt, pulley/tensioner, is timing cover gasket, all drive belts ( 3 if I remember correctly), thermostat and coolant of course. Everything went good car ran great afterwards. I was so excited I drove straight to my friends shop to show him I did it myself And he said “ I guess you don’t need me to work on your car anymore because if you can successfully do I timing belt you should be able to handle almost anything else the car may need in it life time”. That one experience changed my life and I’m now an ASE Certified technician soon to be master technician. So timing belts have a sentimental place in my heart. Thank for the vids Eric the car guy
Man....that is a GREAT story
After doing a 5.4 3v plugs 3 times with none broken and new timing set. I might as well be one. It definitely boosted my wrenching confidence tenfold
I feel that lol. I pulled my motor (thought it was knock turned out to be the crank pulley keyway widened somehow) did it with a 50 dollar Walmart socket set and a engine crane I borrowed from my uncle that taught me that you don't need 15 million tools to do involved jobs. Just a good imagination on how to use what you got. I have the least amount of tools at work and I am just as ready to tackle something if not a little more lol. Only using 3 drawers of my roll cart
Christopher Elrod being able to do it is one thing, but being able to do it properly and efficiently is another. It can be done though, I only buy tools so that it makes it easier and faster.
Eric the car guy? Wrong channel bud.
The great thing about my memory going bad is that I can rewatch vids like this and its all new to me!!
I just found his channel, so I have 8 years' worth of videos to binge watch.
Whenever I do a timing belt, I mark the old belt and the gears relative to each other. (2 or 3 marks unevenly spaced so the marking pattern for each gear is uniquely spaced) Then I transfer the marks from the old belt to the new belt. Then put it all back together. Unless the old belt wasn't on correctly, it's virtually impossible to reassemble it incorrectly this way.
I've changed a timing belt twice from two different vehicles. This here is the reason I like to check at least three times before cranking the engine. If I'm even a little bit frustrated after the belt change, I take a break, usually around an hour. Just to calm my nerves and that way hopefully make no mistakes.
And you know its going to be a good day, when just a few hours after waking up you see that SMA Repair has uploaded a video.
rule no 1: after timing adjustment, turn over the engine by hand a few times.. this is usually included in adjusting timing belt tension... I doubt you can bend valves by hand... if it turns over easily without noise or resistance, insert plugs and fire up... should not have a problem like this
and als a DIY, double double tripple tripple check your timing
Yup, so true. Double/triple checking everything is a good habit in every repair/build job. Couple of times have found a few not so critical bolts loose on the second checking.
Stenkish I always,always turn the engine over by hand slowly,checking the marks,making sure everything it aligned properly. Any binding means STOP! Someone lined that up wrong and bent a valve. Had they turned that engine over by hand only,and slowly, they would have noticed it right away. It is always nerve wracking. My first timing job, they didn't stamp the timing mark on the timing gear so there was no way to properly time something like that. It is always bad news when you have to call the owner and tell them about the big boo boo .
Also he should have made marks with a paint marker before tearing it apart so he would have know what marks to use for sure. It looks like he skipped that step on the crank pulley which turned out to be a huge mistake. He will learn from this one i guarantee that. Poor guy i feel bad for him.
Dude, that pico test is pretty cool. Never seen that demonstrated before. Thanks!
Wow my Subaru instructors watch each others videos 😂
That scope is pretty nifty. A lot of math involved there. Being able to measure the compression of one cylinder then using it to calculate the compression on all the rest is something I never thought would be made a thing. I know it can't be totally accurate but it's probably pretty close. I was a big math geek in high school and I like seeing math put to work in real-world applications.
Eric O. , if I owned a Hondoo you would be the one to work on it. Even if it meant trailering 675 miles to your shop. A very thorough explanation today. Sorry for the customer that made the fatal mistake. I could see how he missed the timing mark .
The reason I'm so down on the guy has nothing to do with the timing mark. Shit happens. What about missing hoses and loose bolts - like maybe head bolts. A mistake is a mistake. Crappy workmanship is different from a mistake.
I messed up my first timing belt job (lined everything up correctly, but left the tensioner bolts loose). Thankfully I caught it in time and was able to save it. You live and you learn. This customer should be proud that he at least tried to do something that would intimidate many seasoned DIY guys.
A wiser man than I, a long time ago, warned me against fixing someone else's fix. Even if you fix the immediate problem you "own" everything that goes wrong with it from then on. My experience has shown this to be true. Loose screws and bolts are a very worrisome sign of bad, bad, bad karma. Be careful.
No bad karma. Just a dumbass worked on it before you.
Oh yea, i can hear the customer now "The, insert completely unrelated problem, worked fine before you worked on our car, so what are you going to do about?"
Most shops have a waiver
Eric O. could probably get at least 10,000 subscribers to testify as character witnesses...I know I would
Known as a since you customer as in sin e you fixed my brakes, the transmission died
I’m a DIY guy? Changed transmissions. Head gaskets. Brakes. Roters. Spark plugs and a lot more stuff and saved a so much money. Just listen and do it right. Literally following instructions.
I love Eric’s one liners. They always make me chuckle. “Oh boy...”
Being a professional shadetree mechanic I remember doing one of these on a friend of my sons. He says yeah dads done a bunch of these. I said “ive never done one of these”. But I did the job and it turned out great.
It was a pleasure meeting you. You and Keith are both honest outstanding guys
I pulled a motor for a guy so he could get overhauled. Installed it, no start. Timing belt off, got running & then found variable cam wasn't installed correctly. Runs great. Great videos.
Great explanation. Keep the Picoscope videos coming. they are very helpful and informative.
i would pay double the price if this shop was close to me..ive seen alot of shops but theres not any with mechanics as honest as this guy and he always does the best he can on ever car he works on....man wish you was close to me lol..like the sip tie noone would have taken the time to do that thumbs up to this guy
I’m a DIY’er and I can say that after some very expensive mistakes I have learned that it’s critical to read they all procedures at least four times before I even start
Eric, I really appreciate the way you explained the work you were doing to test the problems on this engine. Some of the technology is simply mind blowing - yet it works.
you know man as much as you may not want to admit it, you are getting better and better at explainin' things. ;-)
The last time I had a DIY head gasket was a Honda civic. They ran the Cam bearing bolts in with oil in the holes. Cracked every boss on the head. Really saved a lot of money.
Great vid! Loving the fact that you're sharing the pico files with us. Always love seeing that stuff. Thanks a bunch Eric, it's appreciated.
Coming from scanner dinner channel watching, your videos are valuable because you are using thought processes along the way that are In between the diy guy and danner, which is more real world and more believable because you don’t edit out to make you look better. That makes your channel so valuable to us. I thank you on behalf of us all : professionals and non!
The power of the Pico is particularly potent and precise. Props to your patient perusing the problem there partner!
Listen to this man ALWAYS crank engine by hand. I always do it slowly and without spark plugs to get a good feel without the engine building compression.
I like watching these diy fails. It shows what happens when you don't know what you are doing or overlook something.
Don't let these videos stop you from DIY jobs, just use them as something to learn from and be sure to study the FSM or repair book/forums etc before you take on any job.
Good to know. Triangle to triangle. Don't recall other videos mentioning that detail. Thanks so much for that info. Will keep it locked up in my noodle which is great as long as I can remember where I put the key to unlock it. Thanks Eric feel better👍
Hello 1st I would like to say thanks for the informative video on the Head Gasket Video. I managed to acquire a Dodge Caravan Sport 1999 from a inlaw. The van was loosing coolant at times, but needing a vehicle we paid no mind to it, we would just add water to the radiator when it got hot. We used the van couple mo with some driving of 100miles a week 1 trip back and forth. When it got hot we added water on the side of teh road, we were in rough times financially as well. So taking in to a mech was not a option. One day the van got hot we rode it hot till it turned off at a light we had no choice we was on a freeway noone to call and had to get home wife pregnant.
It died on us and it cranked again but soon turned off about 1/4 away from home. A mechanic saw us and went to check if we needed help which we did. He checked and said radiator cap is not even hot and that it has a smell to it. He said the water pump must not be working. He towed us home and towed the van to his place to get fixed. He came back and said water pump was busted and that it seems we rode on it like that for some time cause the fins or propeller was grinded down missing. He said looks like the head gasket is blown because water shot out the radiator cap when he tried to crank it. Now we were stuck with no van, I went ahead and said hmmm maybe I can fix it. Mind you van has not cranked since that day it shut off on us.
Well I removed the heads 1st time doing it mind you. I have the gaskets off and heads off was a pain in the rear. Now I have everything in my cart to buy and get shipped to me that is needed to repair this. I got 2 new heads since I have no way to take my current ones to a machine shop no car mind you. Then I see some videos stating that I need to check if the engine had compression to see if its even worth repairing the gaskets. Well its to late to test that cause I have no heads on the van atm. From my story so far what is the odds of my van working with the new heads and gaskets,since I never got to check my engine. The engine is cast iron block. I also notice I did not have a thermostats to even begin with I can't find it at all.
Please help me out thanks.
if you live close to his shop, i guess he can help you... "• 3.0L SOHC 12 Valve Engine Non-Interference
• 3.0L DOHC Interference
• 3.0L SOHC 24 Valve Engine Interference
• 3.2L Interference
3.3L Interference
• 3.5L Interference
3.8L Interference"
Interference engines are money especially when shady mechanic mess them up I love them
I will never not thumbs up your videos Sir. The amount ive learned from you would make every technician proud of me. In turn makes me proud to of learned from you. Thank you for your videos Sir!
The reason i always verify timing after a job with plugs out of the engine, so your not fighting compression and can feel if your valves are doing the knoughty. Also, appears the dude didnt didnt do his research. If your unsure, ask for help or do your research.
He didn't even tighten the bolts up on anything LOL!
I got an old ford 800 tractor with a blown head gasket. dragging butt on fixing it. this video just saved me a ton of problems. thank you.
Harry said, “A man got to know his limitations.”
argue for your limitations and they are yours
Your sympathy to the guy's frustration is admirable. It's tough news to break to a person that's likely put way too many hours in a project. Hopefully the bolts were loose because the owner saw that there was an issue starting it and was trying to figure it out and finally gave up and slapped what he had a apart back together to get it to you. I've done this on my first Subaru (1998 EJ25 DOHC)... luckily it was just a few teeth off and didn't interfere.
If you don't do Mrs. O's timing belt soon, you'll be going through this again.
Its been 3 yrs has he done Mrs Os belt yet? Lol
@@sendit1158 Good question...
Nahhh
@@sendit1158 She has a new van now. Easier than changing the belt. 😄
I remember on my 95 accord with 236000 miles at the time the cam was kind of falling apart and a sorted head was $190 but you needed gaskets and this guy who sold a ton of cleaned up heads on ebay offered to sell me a used cam and lifters for $40 shipped. Well, I did the oil pump which I will never do again and the timing belt and the cam. But the heads are line bored so you have to put his rockers on your rocker assembly and it's all under tension so you have to hold it all together while you do this. So, having never done any of this after asking 19000 questions, it took me a few weeks. And then I adjusted the valves which I had done before luckily (and strangely is kind of fun on an old accord, thanks Eric the car guy). And you know I didn't want to start the thing after all that. But it started right up and almost 100K later it's almost ready for another timing belt. I felt like I won something LOL.
After you said you were getting vibes - I could see what you were thinking written all over your face haha 👍
I did the timing belt on my 2003 Odyssey and followed the factory service manual. It started right up the first time. The instructions weren't difficult. I torqued everything to spec. Maybe I'm OCD. Maybe I don't want to junk a car for being an idiot.
Love the JB weld behind the cam pulley, must have been a great shop that rebuilt those heads.
Jeremiah Dillingham I saw that too. Was it sealer or JB. I would question head bolt torque next.
I'd guess "grey " silicone for the OD of seals
those are just backing plates for the timing gear. the bigger questing is how did they get broken? either way that van is a hot mess.
14:00 i did a head on a hyundai accent, installed the belt and "tested" it. it ran for 10 seconds, just long enough to throw out the woodruff key and bend all the valves. i had to drive 300 miles to another state to get a decent cylinder head. now i put the pulley on EVERY time!
Keep the great videos coming you definitely have a talent with people and explaining things. You are probably one of the best RUclipsrs out there
That's an awesome tool. Me, being a shade-tree mechanic, would have to take the heads off to check it.
At least the baked potato air intake is good for 5HP. The more I see the Pico capabilities, the more I think I need to sneak one into my toolbox. Excellent video yet again Eric!
Emil Gawaziuk oh cmon that dryer vent is good for at least 10 hp. If he buys one of them vortex spacers it’s good for another 5 horse.
tom h
Ha!
I just did head gaskets on a T100 with the 5vz-fe engine. My first purchase was a Toyota service manual for that truck. Yes, it was not easy but the timing marks are shown very clearly.
This is exactly why I have a deep appreciation for push rods
Ouch!! Really interesting diagnostic test using the PICO to find the bad cylinder. Current draw on the starter. Wow. You are very creative! I am super glad a good shade tree mechanic, AND a Chilton's manual instructed me in the fine art of using the correct timing marks on my 1974 Vega 35 years ago. That motor went to crap, of course, but it wasn't due to valve timing! 🤣
Very cool. Takes less time than a traditional compression test. The loose bolts sure are disconcerting.
Wow that compression test is really cool. Pretty simple yet genius idea.
Now his screw-up is memorialized on youtube forever!!! Good side is there's a distinct possibility this video saved others.
Man that sucks, I hate these intake and exhaust marks, I did the same thing with my car. Now I spin it first and recheck the valves individually. Great video
Classic 'basket case'... in my experience these always end up as perpetual nightmares; there is absolutely no telling what was/wasn't done. Even recall my old c. 60's 'auto shop' instructor [1] waving his finger while saying never get involved. Personally when presented with these, I graciously thank the owner/operator for thinking of me and diplomatically let them know such 'jobs' just aren't viable candidates for my services.
[1] Don Kyle; Uni High, Los Angeles, CA. Extremely nice & knowledgeable guy, fantastic educator!
Ouch I can feel the valves bending
Love the way that compression tester works!
Ya know -- they make books that cost like twenny bucks that you can get at the auto parts stores. Guy name "Haynes" writes 'em. They tell you all about timing marks & stuff. Whenever I start to work on a vehicle like with technical stuff like those fancy "Timing Marks" -- well I always get me a Haynes manual. Cheap insurance, I say.
Mitchel, Alldata, etc also sell DIY subscriptions for just the car you own.
I shall investigate these fresh new sources of auto information. God bless the internet.
One thing I've learned is that you never ever ever ever use a Haynes or Chilton manual. The information in those books are incorrect. Only use a factory Honda OEM shop manual. I did a timing belt job using the Haynes book and the timing they suggested was totally wrong. Had I put the timing belt in and set the timing the way the Haynes book told me I would have toasted the valves when I cranked it over.
@Steve Christianson is RIGHT. I've poured over Chiltons and Haynes manuals before...and come away more confused than ever about timing/cam issues. That's why I've never torn into an engine. I've taken apart everything else successfully except engine and transmission.
Chilton was the best, but have bought haynes..lol
Every video you put out reinforces what we all already know.. You sir...Are the F'ing man.. The people of Avoca are lucky to have you
Good vid. My rule of thumb, if working on something that I'm not familiar with, and timing is involved, I set timing before i tear it apart, so I know how it goes.
Wow! Ive actually been there not that long ago but i got extremely lucky! It was a Non Interference engine. I got the camshaft mark off. Never understood why they put 2 marks. Ah well. Now I know. It was a 1995 Geo 3cylinder engine i was working on. Next I will be doing the clutch.
eric thanks for being a great mechanic they are hard to find
I had initially misread the description as "Some times you get the beer and sometimes the beer gets you." Which on a DIY head gasket job surprisingly still works as a saying.
Gotta love interference engines! Cam belt/timing chain goes and all hell breaks lose! A simple case of head gaskets turning into a complete engine rebuild! Sometimes it's cheaper in the long run just to take it to a qualified mechanic. It's a lesson that I also had to learn the hard way
Yup. It's not cheap. But a little peace of mind(if you have a trusted mechanic) and clean hands at the End cof the day is worth it. The money I save on easy diy( non critical) stuff just gets recycled into the mechanic fees. ( ill do my brakes, suspension etc) basically if I can get to it easily ill do it after a month of research. Timing stuff is shrouded away for its protection and to keep my paws out of it. I gladly paid 1200 for the 90k service on my 2003 sequoia v8 2uz (205k miles) which was timing belt tensioner pulley, water pump, And 8 sparkplugs.
Awesome compression test. Those PIco's are impressive.
Never seen that done or knew it existed. That has to be pretty handy.
Dang, that's why I started with a manual in hand. Thank you for the video
Love your work Eric, can’t believe the rusty stuff you see over there.
Did the timing chain on a 1980 Olds 350 when I was 17, no internet, just the crappy Haynes repair manual. Even for that push rod engine, the book told you how to align the cam and crank for Chevy, Pontiac, Buick and Olds motors (they were all different!)
Love the content being a mechanic myself love watching not doing once in awhile
IMO probably the best proesssional auto mechanic show on You Tube along with FordTechmakULoco and EricTheCarGuy.
Great video thanks brother. I like the way you break it down for us. Keep up the great work see you in the next video
I dont own a Honda and am not a mechanic (american car hobbiest) but just watched with intrigue... Heading to Part 2.
Hey if he junks the car can I have the air intake for my dryer?
that silver multi-layer flex foil pipe is against most dryer venting/fire codes ;)
very funny
throttle bottle yes it is, that junk isn’t even good enough to use on a dryer.
That is the problem, they used an air outtake for an air intake.
Doom2pro they need the cold air intake, 10 horsepower and some compression back xD
Besides hearing that obvious dead cylinder, that Pico has an amazing feature! I've never seen that feature on anyone else's channel, including ScannerDanner.... That's awesome! Thanks for showing that! Very soon, I'll have my own Pico... trying to save up enough
Like many people today the owner probably watched a couple RUclips head gasket videos and thought that made him a master tech.
Nutz4Gunz45 If you don't have the right tools and know EVERYTHING there's to know to do the job correctly, DON'T do it! Even tightening the head bolts incorrectly will cause a leak. Then the head comes off again. If you drove it enough to warp the heads, then it costs 3 times as much!
Should of watched them for a few days to fully study how to do it properly
Honestly if you're going to be serious about it, get a cheap beater to learn on, get your main vehicle serviced unless you're confident..
At least go to the junkyard and experiment on those cars before touching the one you drive
@@rickyharris9897
Afterwards you are not going to do it again.
I had to pause it Eric when u said you dint film taking covers off and u said herby jeebys.. ok mechanic of 25 years here shop owner all of it and my family owned and ran a dyno and built race motors so iv been around well I do alot of these honda timing sets like more of this particular motor than any other...well once I did the timing set on my wife's uncles and it ran like a top for 2 weeks then all of the sudden it jumped time I had it toed to my shop and the top back timing cover there is a inside lip that holds the little rubber gasket in a Grove.....it was dry rotted and broke off going down the road fell got in-between belt and gear and she jumped 4 teeth on the back head and I found the plastic piece behind the bottom timing cover and layer it on the gear and it fit the imprints on the plastic perfectly and it was exactly how many teeth it jumped lol ......new belt and did the job free just cuz lol 😆 just a funny random thing to watch out for
This job is where being one of the good guys sucks! Your gut says kick it down the line yet your heart wants to help because you feel for them...........For me jobs like this depend on the customer,if they are good folks struggling I'll do what I can.But otherwise I'll send it.
I used to be this way too but I've recently been cured of this terrible affliction by someone who just wouldn't take good advice. Now I operate a principle of simply uttering "That's a damn shame" when people inform me of their problems with which I could assist and I'm sure they'll actually learn nothing from it.
Send it where? 😀
@@TonyRule thats just bc noone trusts mechanics. everyone has been robbed by a mechanic before
Now that is really clever. I've never seen a compression test done that way. Gotta look into this
Great video! Really like the clear, full screen shots of the Pico data.
Hey Eric,
I got my Astro light a couple days ago. It works great! I’m glad they decided to put a better hook on it. I hope you are feeling better.
Like Mike, I'm learning my new (lower, two channel) PICO so this video was helpful. Sucks for the owner but he should be comfortable now that it's in good hands.
Master diagnoses tech.
Super mechanic.
Really wish more mech/techs like you.
Then I could trust a shop out here.
Only found one or 2 in 50 years.
Do my own component replacement due to that.
I run vehicals 15 years on average, replaced several motors, trannys, transfer cases, rebuilt a few.
To old for the big heavy stuff now. 96 pick up4X at edge of my skills now also.
Let shop plug it in read print out for sensor replace.
The brain box's scare me to death.LOL
Think a professional mechanic is expensive? Wait till you hire an amateur do it.
What do mean that's an easy head gasket
That’s like health care. If you think health care is expensive, just wait until it is free!
Correction..." Wait 'till you try a cheap one ! "
@Alexander Hazell Canadian healthcare is the best
Alexander Hazell I wish someone would tell the idiots here who want “free” healthcare
Wells just did a series of videos using the pressure transducer and the Pico on a Honda van. It was really well done.
Gotta be _really_ careful with the valve timing, especially on interference engines. If it were me doing it, I'd figure out some way of locking the crank and camshafts in place so they can't rotate before removing the timing belt/chain, or add my own marks with some paint or a centerpunch, just to make sure.
Barring over the engine by hand before trying to start it is a good idea, I'll have to remember that. :-)
Any recommendations on what mileage you should change an Ecotec's timing chain at? Mine's got about 150k, and I plan on pulling the powertrain out soon to replace the clutch, thinking about replacing the timing chain and maybe the water pump while they're easy to get to.
Funny enough you say you'd find a way to lock it out. People do that with rods all the time, I've seen a dude do it with a stick.
I am so glad that I have an ej22e, that the engine is a non interference because I did a timing job, and the hydraulic tensioner failed. Timing jumped on the crankshaft and the cams were in time with each other
Same with my EG33, which is just an EJ22 with 2 extra cylinders.
@@erwinramen6089 learned my lesson on reusing hydraulic tensioners
“A Man’s got to know his limitations” Clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry
You mechanics have a strong tolerance for constant head aches!
Order a box of compression & ship it 👍
But make sure you use the good air, or god knows what might happen
Use nitrogen during break-in.
Unfortunately Dorman is the only manufacturer of boxed compression so there is a 95% chance it won't work.
Wait Eric has that rusty air,will that still work ?
...but starting with 95% blowby they'd cancel out and you'd be fine....
Thank you for taking the time to show the help section of the Pico scope
I almost always do my own work. Everytime I have gone to a mechanic, I pay a lot of money and get poor results. I am not saying all mechanics are dishonest, but I would rather do the work myself.
The good ones are worth every penny. The trick is finding one.
I've seen two dealerships make major reinstallation mistakes (failure to reconnect an oil pump and failure to reconnect the exhaust downpipe to turbocharger) in 30 years.
I've also seen tire shops:
- overtighten lug nuts (some even claim they have a minimum lb./ft. of 85 even though the manufacturer lists it as 66)
- cross thread lug nuts
I'd rather work on my car myself. I might make a mistake, but I learn from them and I don't make such novice mistakes as failing to reconnect parts. 🙄
My advice: If you have to go into any shop for service (or recalls, which is what the turbo to downpipe connection failure was), then take pictures of your car, engine bay, and undercarriage both before and afterwards for evidence in case they monkey stuff up...
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Nobody will ever take as much care with your machine as you will. To you it's your world, to them it's a work ticket.
Eric; The screen-in-screen shots of the scope are terrific. Everything is much clearer and it makes it easier to follow your narration. Well done!
I can hold a fart at higher pressures that cylinder 5...
Lol! 1.92 psi
It got to be that red hot chilli bean dinner you had earlier.
ERIC, I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU ROCK BRO! THANKS FOR SHARING!
I spent 20 years at Honda and saw the same timing mark error going down the assembly line.
greg warner.....What, really? Would they catch the error before it was too late?
You're right; those 3.5s always seem to bang the valves in the rear head. Had some long-time friends who live out-of-town at our place one weekend. When they went to leave, they cranked up and their 06 Accord ripped a few teeth off the belt (never been changed. Had 175k on it). Bent two valves in the rear head, and if I remember right, they were in fact in the #3. Eh well, gave us a good excuse to get together again a couple of weeks later after I fixed it.
I heard the cranking sound in the beginning and I realized that this is an expensive mistake made.
Prolly sounded a LOT worse when the owner cranked it over trying to start it up for 20-30 minutes giving it plenty of gas pedal action wondering why it wouldnt start, by the time the garage got the car the valves were pretty much pre-broken in to the piston tops- literally LOL!
Really good work by you Eric, too bad for the last guy.
Pico test's a timesaver.
I'd put my money on a HF Torque wrench. I used one of those on Struts one time and almost had my front end come off. they seriously under report specs... I use the Guttentight method now, and if there is a mandatory torque spec, I use a better torque wrench.
I hear you but I must share this...I have a 1/4", 3/8", and a 1/2" torque wrench...all from Harbor Freight (Pittsburgh brand). I've owned/used them for about 7 years. I recently had their calibration tested by my quality engineer friend at his work. Without making any adjustments, they all tested accurate within 1%...far better than the 4% that they advertise. I was shocked. I had no idea they'd be that close. For what it's worth, I always store them looser than their lowest setting when not in use.
Seek & Repair mine is certainly not calibrated. I've never had it tested though. I do keep mine loose when not in use too. Just know I "clicked" those bolts on the struts. And next day they were less than finger tight. Scared the crap out of me!
the downfall is, people use adapters, extensions, loose sockets, don't clean the threads, is the spec lubed or dry? it all makes a world of difference :)
@@seekrepair5887 I have their 3/8 and had not even noticed it was made in Taiwan not China. That I thinks seems to be the difference. I just used that on my Miata water pump and timing belt change. I use my dad's older Craftsman torque wrench for the larger bolts. Nothing has fallen off yet.
I quit wrenching 5 years ago. Still have all my tools and box. Including lots of auto-tensioner pins. Never throw those out. lol
All this mess just to have the transmission blow up in 20k
Tony Chariton
Yeah boy keep drinking that Honda kool-aid!!!
Meh. If you get the new ones or put a jet kit on itll be fine
Junk Honda trans
I just finished a ‘97 CR-V head gasket. Wasn’t too hard but had to remember to NOT rotate the engine clockwise. After confirming valve timing was dead-on, I rotated the crank 90 degrees and this caused the timing belt tensioner to loosen and exhaust cam jumped two teeth. Crazy! Engine had 220,000 miles but now putts like a kitten after giving it a full service + valve adjustment.
This past November I did a Subaru flat 6 head gasket and that sucked. Engine must come out, torque converter seating was an UGH moment!
Great work as usual, sucks for the owner but RUclips and other recordings give some a false sense of security when It comes to automotive repair. This can happen to a professional but highly unlikely as mechanical TDC alignment and verification is key for anyone that does this for a living. A man(or woman) has to know their limitations.
What? You sayin' I can't replace my AC compressor after watching a three minute Scotty Kilmer vijayo??
Well spoken Clint.
If anybody thinks of doing their own timing belt after a 3 minute Scotty review, they need to come here, first. I'm puzzled by people who don't bother to get the dealers repair manual and do adequate research before jumping in. That said, by putting two different marks on the crank pulley, Honda engineers messed up, too. Good engineering should make it nearly impossible to put stuff together wrong. Great video, it's always nice to see in-cylinder pressure measurements.
If you can do Miss O can do her HONDOOOO
Maybe they were on to something? Maybe they were on something.
It took me a couple of seconds to guess as to why all the bolts are so loose as you said; most likely what had happened was when he tightened everything down, he did it to inch-pounds instead of foot pounds.