Finasteride vs No Treatment: Comparison on Identical Twins
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- In this episode, we are able to demonstrate the effects of Finasteride and effectively 'see' what the outcome would have been had Finasteride not been used.
A quick thank you to my patient for allowing me to demonstrate this. It is not very often that we get the ability to see this sort of comparison.
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hard to find such a rare data like this. probs to the twins and thanks for the great info as always Dr Vikram!
Glad you liked it!
I wonder how long the brother who was on finesteride was using it for
@@TheHairLossShow but what about side effects on both
I am a twin and my brother started treatment earlier than me and I do regret waiting. I have managed to keep my hair but unfortunately because I waited the hair has unfortunately thinned so a little noticeable. Don't be scared of finasteride, start early!
is your libido (s*x drive) normal? after taking fin
I bought it but got scared of taking it due to shit i heard online about Post Finasteride disorder. Not worth the risk imo
@@genz8034 yeah pretty much
@@cheetahbrfc9016 but your beard hairs must have got patchy and thin
i mean it does negatively affect beard
@@genz8034 Unfortunately with my genetics I have always had a patchy beard lol. It grows normally but like its something I don't want to grow out
Would have been good to see photos of both having the hair styled in the same direction but yeah you can clearly see the twin taking finasteride has more hair overall.
i have been on Finasrteride since 1997 still working ,and don't let people tell you about all these side effects not true
How old were you when you started taking it?
@@dmitrysomeone9867 37
Side effects are true it just depends from person
@BenBenson let me tell you something, i hear all these guys saying i have been on Finasteride for 3 or 7 years my sex drive has gone down guess what you can't blame it all on Finasteride aging is the main culprit
Same, I’m still a wild coomer… 2-3x per day
I'm an identical twin and I've started on Finasteride, I'm also using Minoxidil (topical) every day too. Due to COVID and living in different states, I haven't seen my brother in about 2 years.
I guess we'll see the difference when I see him at his wedding in a few months time 😄
Dude... you have an identical twin and you havent seen each other in 2 FKING YEARS? Bruv why even bother going to his wedding at this point. 2 years man? Yall livin in the north pole and Antarctica or what lol. I understand covid and all that shit in the first few months but yah 2 years is way too much and covid isnt an excuse lol
@@TheAmanor123 lmfao
Bro wth just face time him 💀
This happens in America. They don't get much annual leave and internal flights are expensive.
@@TheAmanor123 He sees his brother all the time. He just looks in the mirror.
the twin who on finasteride has also combed his hair to cover his thin spots so its kinda hard to tell how much finasteride truly helping that twin
This is a tremendous comparison I have been on Finasteride since last year and have no side effects that men talk about and my hair fall has been significantly reduced..
what's your dosage been?
@@jtlegionnaire6310 1mg every day
Are you physically fit and healthy?
@@Ken-yg4um isn’t this dose a bit too high ? Because
Dr vikram is advising 1 mg every second day
What's your age? Side effects are more pronounced in people with lower testosterone levels which happens as your age increase.
And the great doctor is back!😀👍
Thank you! Sorry about the brief hiatus!
there's also a similar example with dutasteride, the twin who used dut kept his hair
also please consider making a video on dutasteride mesotherapy
Missed you guys! Thanks for the great content!
More to come!
Hello doctor, i was wondering if you will gonna do some episode on the new study 2021/2022 about topical finasteride and give some advice about how legitimate it is, the size the lenght ecc ecc, really good work overall really appreciate your videos and advice, thanks
just take the pill its easier and works
There is a difference but the result it might be exaggerated the way how they combed theirs hair ???
It would be more helpful if the hairstyles were the same. Otherwise .. I enjoyed the video very much because it was unique
Thank you ! Im getting better results
We need multiple follow up vids on this. There are many unanswered questions.
How long has he been on it?
When did he start treatment?
Is he on any other treatment other than finasteride etc.
When someone gives you fingers, you have a tendency to hold onto the hands. Dude just appreciate that we got this. Just get on Finasteride asap. Why do you need to research this much? Finas and dutas are the only proven things that u can take, and they are highly highly effective.
@@lalitsethi2672 Shut up dude. Your comment is of no value.
If the info I asked is not of your interest why comment on it?
It's my problem to get the info (whether I get it or not).
@@k.t.1594 then why to ask over here dude? Do your own research then why are you putting nonsensical comments over here. Your original comment sounded like criticism, so, i would say that if you wanted to do “research” then do it somewhere else. Nonsense
@@k.t.1594 But What are you hoping to find out? If finastrides works? Of course it does ! How well depends on your own genetics
Been documenting my hairloss experience on my channel! Thanks for the great content!
OK, but what does the twin on Fin look like when he's not combing his longer hair over the balding area? All we needed was for the guy on the Fin to not do a combover for the photo. Crazy how we couldn't get a totally fair comparison.
Got a deep knowledge on your channel, which i think we cannot find anywhere. I am Glad to know this channel.
Sir one small request can you make a video on Telogen Effluvium.🙏
Astonishing content!
Thanks doc, Always the best !!
My pleasure!
great video. btw, why isn't Dr. Knudsen no longer doing vids?
Its a very minute difference as the hair has been combed a different way.
Both are still having the same issue with baldness regardless of finasteride
Where is Dr. Nutsi ?!?
Why dr Russell can't be seen lately?
oh, another episode where you explain for 1000th time, the basics behind hair loss and finasteride
have to in case they have new subscribers
Maybe because finasteride is the only scientifically proven medication that works to treat hair loss...
@@Rat0713 There's ton of other stuff worthy of discussion in the area of hair loss. PDO Scalp Threading, Pyrilutamide etc. The reason they recycle same old 2minute Fin talk is because they're lazy.
I started taking Finesteride way back in 1997 when doctors here in Australia never heard of it for hair loss. I had to import it from NZ and was $150 a box of Proscar .
I’m 53 now and it has stopped my hair loss and I grew some back at the crown. I started losing my hair 24 years old . I’m sure I’d be completely bald by now if I didn’t discover this drug. I have however lost strength and muscle over the years even though I have never stop pumping weights. Also lost a bit of libido but nothing viagra doesn’t fix. I have been taking 1.25mg for the past 25 years.
1 week ago I started Oral Minoxidil at 5mg a day. This made me end up in emergency department due to the causing me chest pains and breath shortness. I stopped taking the minoxidil 2 days ago and feel much better. Apparently it sent my blood pressure way to low.
After watching these videos, I now plan now to give Finesteride a month or 2 break to clear it from my body then change my dose to 1.25mg 3 times a week instead of everyday. It’s already been 1 week of my break from it and already feeling stronger in the gym.
Time will tell if 3 times a week of Finesteride will be just as effective as everyday and will give me some muscle back.
We’re you able to have a biological child while taking finasteride?
Yes I had a daughter who was born in 2004 with no issues at all. She is a normal 18 year old now
@@Andrew-mc6lk Hi Andrew - an update would be really appreciated💗
The Finasteride twin had his hair combed over. The non-Finasteride twin had his hair going straight down the sides of his head. I wonder really how much more hair has been saved with the Finasteride using twin if he styled his hair the same way as his brother. I'm pretty sure it would look much less full. I mean, look at how far the comb-over is! Anyway, Im sure it helped using Finasteride, but a true comparison should have been done with the exact same hair styling.
exactly my point
you are right but the brother who didn’t take finasteride can’t even do the first brothers hair length or style . he doesn’t have enough hair 😂
One covered the hair in the middle and the other combed it to the sides. Not a fair comparison
It would have been interesting to also know if the brother on finasteride has experienced things like ED whereas the untreated brother might have avoided this?
It happens in 2% of people
One twin has his hair styled, in an attempt to conceal his hairloss.
The other twin has his hair spread apart, to reveal his hairloss.
I noticed that also, he might in fact have more hair loss.
What happened to the other guy that was on this show?
The question is : for how long one of the twin has been on finasteride ? It's good to compare but we should know for how long he took finasteride....
following this, would also like to know the twin's dosage.
From an experience I can say after 5-7 years finasteride will stop working.
@@proudman6651 there has been people taking it for 20 plus years that are still stable you are just unfortunate as 5% of users will loss ground after about 5 years while 95% of users will continue to see results through many years on finasteride
@@proudman6651 that's false . It never " stops working" that's a myth. It still works but it's your MPB that is becoming more agressive as you age unfortunately... so finasteride by itself is not enough anymore (it happens to lots of people with very agressive MPB) . You should consider adding minoxidil to your regiment and also I would advice you to start dutasteride once a week at 2,5mg (on Sunday for example). While you will keep using finasteride of course.
Finasteride everyday + dutasteride once a week (enough cause it has a very long half life) and minoxidil at the same time = it's basically gonna stop your hairloss again (you might even get regrowth).
If that doesn't work after 2 years of use then I would go for a hairtransplant.
Ps : never ever stop finasteride anyway! (Even though you feel like it's not working anymore).
And you could also consider Fluridil as a topical anti-androgene or just wait for Pyrilutamide to be on the market by 2023 - 2024.
Hope I could help you 🙏
@@jtlegionnaire6310 the time of use and the dosage are 2 important informations indeed.
Been on finestride for 10 months now and still balding
I've seen some data about hair loss after succumbing to covid. Is it Correlation and not causation? There is literature out there. What are your thoughts?
hmmm tbh the examples are showing one brother with heavily combed over hair
Where’s the white Doctor???
Question I’m taking finasteride 1mg pills m/w/f on the days I don’t can I use the finasteride and minoxidil topical solution?
Dr Vikram, in your honest opinion, how optimistic are you of a cure for hair loss being discovered and if so, what would be a realistic time frame?
Who knows? But I don't think that it is going to be in the short term. The reason I say that is that there are multiple genes that code for male pattern hair loss. We only know of a certain number of them. There may be many more.
could you do a comparison between patients only on dutasteride vs only finasteride? i was switched away from 1mg fin daily to 0.5 dutasteride daily, and i'm still losing ground after 1.5 years
Time for a transplant. After a transplant and continued Dutasteride but you'll still lose hair, then time to accept reality and shave it off. Not everyone is a responder.
Probably best to add RU or CB and re-assess the situation in half a year to a year.
Could you please make a video about brittle hair. How we can fight with it. 😊What kind of oil we can use to improve structure and growth of hair.
Look, I’m pro finasteride as much as the next guy, but why are side by side or before and after pictures always taken in different conditions? One LITERALLY has a comb over, the other has his hair spread out to expose the thinning. It looks like the same guy just combed his hair over. No doubt it probably helped save a few hairs but why not just be realistic and fair. A lot of marketing and deception goes into this pictures and it always puts me off as doesn’t come across genuinez
Have you ever had someone that continued to recede while on finasteride/dutasteride? If so how often?
DEAR VIKRAM - ON THE SUBJECT OF FINANSTERIDE WHEN YOU'RE PLANNING TO CONCEIVE FROM A MALE PERSPECTIVE
• You say finansteride is a long-acting medicine, but half-life is only 5-8 hours. Could you please elaborate?
• Since half-life is only 5-8 hours how would you rate the approach on stop taking finasteride (as a male) 3 days prior to ovulation and then continue taking finansteride after ovulation. Approach is repeated with three days break of finansteride per month until pregnancy has been achieved. My concern is reduced male fertility and the prospect of harm to the fetus
Can you discuss if latanoprost is effective in hair loss. There’s many pharmacy’s that compound a foam containing both latanoprost/finasteride with limited studies showing effectiveness. However, there is one double blind study showed significant out comes with hair regrowth, just wondering if can you shed some light on the latanoprost if possible.
This is insane. A same comparison exists with Dutasteride and the difference is even bigger.
Dutasteride also has more side effects. I have experienced them myself and had to stop completely.
@@vipulgupta can you share what types of side effects were you getting because i just started to take Dut and so far so good
@@rami4294 i take finasteride 1mg every day apart from sat and sun on these days i take avodart instead dramatically increased my hair density no balding at all now all hair filled in etc including the front after adding dutasteride also in about 3 months i noticed the baby hairs that fin helped with grew really long and got thicker so much so completly filled in my temples now i think this was thanks to the combined therapy and no sides at all if anything im hornier now than i ever was
oh and im 40 years old been taking fin for 9 months and dutasteride for just over 3 months of this
i waited to the 6 months mark of taking fin everyday until starting dutasteride as well
I’ve been on fin for over 10 years but my hair is slowly thinning. I added 0.5 dut once a week but it gave me sides. I read it takes time for the body to get used to it so I’ll try it again some time in the future. But fin worked great for me cuz my brother is completely bald while I still have a full head of hair with diffused thinning.
The doctors on this show recommend stopping it for one month every 5-6 months to clear it out of your system a bit and still keep the benefits
were you able to have kids without autism,
Whats your side effects? I dont see any side effect by adding dut once a week and take finasteride the rest of the weeks.
there is a question about propecia, i find it will lose effection when propecia store in a refrigerator or in high temperature( above 30 ℃)。so, what is the best way to store finasterde in hot summer? thank you
Saifullah Shahen
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i am 26 and my family has no bald issues but I face hair fall. i want to stop my hair fall. Rest of my hair is enough for me. what dose should I take Finasteride ? kindly answer me.
PLEASE MAKE YOUR NEXT VIDEO ABOUT FACIAL BLOATING THAT FIN AND MIN CAUSES!
NO ONE EVER TALKS ABOUT THIS. IT'S A SERIOUS AND BOTHERSOME SIDE EFFECT.
HELP PLEASE.
When you begin taking Finasteride...3 times a week, as per the other doctor on your show's reccomendation.. How long will it take to begin to stop
hair from falling out? Thank you...!
one has a comb over and the other doesnt lol
i always wonder what meds vikram takes cuz hes like uhhh uhh alll the time and talks a lot of stuff he could leave out, hes really like someone on benzo's. his concentration is totally off all the time
Hi Dr. Plz , i wishe to answer me , can i take 5 mg Finasteride once on the week ?
I have had a very very great results with topical finasteride. I have gained a lot of hair back. I simply crush the tablets into minoxodil and the results is amazingg
How do you crush the tablets into minoxidil?
I always wanted to see something like this I wonder when will it be ok to get off the medication. Is there a period where the shedding stops after taking the pill for an amount of time?
No. You have to take the medicine till the time you want to retain your hair. Though after sometime you can reduce the dosage somewhat.
Did the finasteride reverse the hair loss or just halt it?
I cut down on my dose a few months ago… but I think a small amount of thinning has returned. If I re increase my finasteride dose, I’d it likely my hair will go back to its condition of six months ago? Ta
Thoughts on having kids when taking 0.5mg finasteride daily ?
For how long was the twin taking Finasteride prior to this photo?
Thoughts on dutasteride mesotherapy?
So Finastride doesn't make your hair to grow?
Hello
I started taking finasteride a month ago 0.5 mg pills every day. for 4 days I feel itching. Was it caused by Finasteride? Is it reversible symptoms?
please answer
The direction of hairstyle is adding to illusion and creating bias
I'm in my 50's and was seeing a lot of hair in the shower drain after washing hair so I started DHT blockers. After taking finasteride 5mg for 2mos followed by switching to only taking dutasteride 5mg for one month. My hair loss completely stopped. After the 3mos, I had my annual PE and my CBC (complete blood count) showed a slightly elevated AST (liver damage). I do not drink or smoke, but have been taking supplements like niacin and rosuvastatin for high cholesterol, so I don't know what caused my high AST, but as a precaution I DCed all supplements and meds (AMA) until I have blood work done again in 4-5mos.
It's been 2mos since DCing finasteride and dutasteride, and now only use an anti-DHT shampoo/conditioner 2-3x/wk (Keeps). Based on what I see in the shower drain after washing my hair, I have had no hair loss whatsoever.
I will continue monitoring but based on my results, I may not need DHT blocker meds until I see hair loss again. I also plan to only shampoo once a week or so because it seems to be harsh on fine hair and dries my hair too much.
Conclusion: finasteride and dutasteride worked great and completely stopped hair my loss.
When I first use finasteride, does my hair fall out?
Is it normal for nipples to be sore and puffy with dutasteride? Is that a sign of gyno?
They'd both benefit from hair fibers
Is Finasteride bad for diabetics?
Thanks Dr, The question is, if the brother who did not choose to take finasteride, starts taking it now, will he be able to regrow more hair at the baldness area?
No. Finasteride only slows down hair loss.
this is so ironic, its almost the same situation with me and my brother, he's 2 years older than me, I realized his thinning and noticed some recession in my own hairline, I took action and he never did, I have all my hair and essentially a Norwood 1 and he's almost bald. He doesn't regret his decision though cause hes a gym junkie and believes finasteride has harm on his gains lmao
Testing this on one twin is not enough to proove the effect of Finasteride. First, any serious scientifc study you need a large population size to get good stats. You need to omit the drug and compare again in the same population. Also with DNA sequencing, we know true twins are not really identical, they are very similar but not identical, as we know spontanous mutation are very common in human population.
They already have done studies on large groups, he's just showing a comparison with identical twins to show how people with the exact same DNA are compared.
Hello Dr. I have a small question. I have been on Finasterid over 4 months and I didn't experience any side effects so far. Now me and my wife are planning to have a baby. Is this continuation of Drug can affect our purpose to have a baby in any way?
I heard different videos where doctors say to be off for a month before trying to conceive and get on directly after you have conceived.the drug can affect male infertility and cause defect in the baby although I don’t believe there’s strong evidence about the defect part.
Better to avoid
They have answered this many times/in previous episodes/comments. It's recommended to have stopped taking it for a while before (mainly for psychological reasons - there should really not be a risk). But a woman planning to give birth should not be anywhere near Finasteride. Not touching it or so.
@@triedbuttdied this. The amount humans take is not the same as they did in animal studies. But for your peace of mind just rather not take it.
so basically grow your hair longer and comb it to the side.
Can 1 brother donate his hair to the other where they are twins?
I started taking finasteride in this month.in the beginning of the procedure my body started to show side effects (a discomfort and a slight pain in testicle region).then I stopped and side effects gone.my doctor prescribed 1mg finasteride and I'm 19 years old I was facing hair loss issue for the past 1 nad half years.i used finasteride for only 3 days.does minimising the dose helps in my hair regrowth
Im 22 and I started fin 9 months ago at the same time as my hair transplant. So as you I had the same Sides for about 1 months (mostly the first week) but then it tamed gradualy and finally disapered after this first month. The only side I have now is that my morning woods are less noticeable but besides that eveything is fine!
I would have suggested you to try lowering to every other day
What about breezula or kx-826?
What if someone gets psychological issues with finasteride
Question Dr. Do you have any recommended clinics in the US? For those of us who can't make it to Australia?
I would suggest you to look at the channel of Dr. Gary Linkov. He is based out of US, looks very accomplished and has a very informative channel, best channel on this as per me.
Check out Dr Cooley in NC. Search Cooley hair loss and his before/after w/patients comes up here on youtube. He's highly respected and regarded as one of the best, if not the best in the US.
Check out Dr. Matt Leavitt in Florida.
Any Finasteride brand recommendations for or things to look out for when buying? I want to start now before it's too late but I don't want to buy anything that's fake or doesn't work. Please help. Thank you!
The brand doesn't matter really, just got for 1mg finasteride from the brand which is available to you
@@dhuleepr1188 Tank you bro
How often would be best to start on Finasteride?Daily or every other day? Thanks for the great content
They usually recommend starting with 3 times 1 mg a week. I followed their advice and am satisfied.
Can you take finestaride 3 times a week instead of 1mg per day? If so, are there studies supporting this?
yes, they recommend a 3 times a week dose
What if the fin taker started 5yrs earlier?
night and day really
Sir I am using minoxidil 5% and now i want to switch to finasteried 1mg. what should i do?
can i stop minoxidil and start finastried to avoid hair shedding? Please reply?
Take both.
Vikram J. (Tiger) Uppercut
And what is the downside of blocking DHT? Because I think DHT isn't the priority of lowering your hair? :-P
So, what are the non-genetic causes/factors for male pattern baldness? Hormones/Anabolic steroids/Stress/Mental health/Smoking. Everyone's hair follicles are sensitive to androgens/DHT, but the degree varies. Identical twins don't necessarily both go bald. Yet, they're very likely to have similar lifestyles.
These before and after photos are never legit and they are always the same old tactic. The after is always longer hair and then combed over to appear to have more coverage.
Hello Dr. Vikram, would greatly appreciate your answer, I've began taking finasteride as a 5 mg pill quartered into 1.25mg parts. When quartered, the pill dissolves very quickly often in my mouth already. Do you think this could be a problem for its effect? I'm concerned that it isn't lowering my dht since it's dissolving before reaching my stomach.
Are you swallowing the pill after it’s dissolved? Your mouth isn’t going to degrade the active ingredient.
@@andrewvanness1473, Well, I try to swallow the quartered pill as fast as possible, but it begins dissolving very quickly, so it's clear that by the time it reaches my stomach it will be dissolved in the water that I swallow it with.
@@trapitusaventurez2190 It'll be absorbed into your bloodstream anyway. Whether it's dissolved in the mouth or stomach, the active ingredient would be absorbed and filtered by the liver and delivered into the bloodstream.
Why not cut pill in half and take every other day?
And now satisfactory results
Is topical effective
Yes, as per limited studies. Oral is more time tested.
I feel stomach aches right after taking 1.25 mg of finasteride (5 mg pill cut in 4). Is this normal? I started taking it about 1 month ago. I take 3 pills a week
How are you doing now, if you are still on it?
@@rcl300018 i quit weeks later. I reduced the dose and didn´t have any symptoms but I saw some "horror stories" related to finasteride and decided my anxiety wasn´t goint to let me take it long term lol. I´m using a minoxidil gel with bergamot every night. I´m also using cacahuananche and tepezcohuite soap while in the shower. These products are available in Mexico, maybe in the US too. They work fine, nothing magical or spectacular but at least I´m not afraid of long term and horrible side effects
Finasteride will reduce sperm count ????
They just did it so their mother could keep them apart.
Hey doc I hope you see this. I have been taking finasteride for about 2 months now and have noticed my hair part in the middle is a lot more noticeable now and can see my scalp. Should the finasteride stopped this kind of hair loss by now? I know shedding around this time is normal but I'm seeing a particular worsening around the part.
They talk about this on another video
That's good. That means your shedding the old hair and making way for the new stronger hair strands
Keep on using it. It takes longer to assess its effectiveness. My tip: take good pictures now and compare to pictures in 10 months (so 12 months in total). For me, the difference was clearly visible (thicker hair, hairline stabilised).
can we go bald in just shedding of finasteride...bcz i am in 2 months my hair shedding got worse...now scalp is more noticeble....and i am in confusion to go with it or stop finasteride ....i dnt wnna go bald
Still not the same person. Bald brother just needs to comb it over
The doctor himself is loosing hair
80% of men lose some hair by their 40s and 50s. That's not typical alopecia. That's just getting old. Older men look weird if they still retain their youth hairline. It's why good hair transplant doctors don't recommend bringing down the hairline for men in their 40s
i was on dutestaride for a whole year but i noticed that my hair fall has increased after taking medicines like this and minoxidil ,i know this doesn't seems Scitific but yes that is my condition...my age 21..can i get a reply sir?
What a disappointment. How are we supposed to believe they are twins if you don't show their faces?
Dnt Take It It.ll Make U Impotent
I'm not willing to take the chance with the side effects especially the sex drive
The side effects are very rare. And for some people finasteride will actually increase the sex drive, better libido due to the increase of testostérone.
Personally I got no side effects and only a better libido with finasteride. Definitely worth the try.
And if you do get side effects, then you can titrate the dose do to 0,25mg every other day and it's still gonna work against hairloss.
Just lower the dose if necessary, you won't get sides. And if you still get sides then after you stop the treatment : you sex drive will be back to normal in no time.
Ps : post finasteride syndrome is a myth
So, it didn't really do anything.... I mean the finasteride guy has a combover to cover the loss.
sharp eyes 😂
in the UK there's a brand called HIMS that offering a new topical Finasteride & Minoxidil all in one solution (no pills); however I worry that the "Twice Daily" recommended usage would increase the chances of side effects compared to taking a pill 3x a week along side Minoxidil use. Would love to know your opinions on this method/product if possible as I have my doubts but also hold a lot of anxiety towards taking Finasteride in pill form.