I've got a theory: I think the reason Giselle was so convinced Michelle and Scott were sleeping together behind her back is likely because she did the same thing to Michelle. Giselle couldn't believe her friend was honestly not betraying her because she had done the very thing she was accusing Michelle of. In her mind Michelle couldn't be a good friend because Giselle wasn't.
So Michelle possibly had a boyfriend (not her baby daddy) that cheated on her with Giselle. It is impossible to be the dad since they only dated for 3 weeks, they weren't even in a relationship at that stage.
I think you nailed it. I have seen over the years liars accuse someone truthful time and time again, adulterers accuse faithful partners again and again, etc. The old saying, "It takes one to know one," is definitely not true.
Exactly. My father constantly accused my mom of cheating. If he went to work with one of his brothers and left the family car at home he would check the odometer before leaving then upon returning after work the first thing he did was check the odometer. He then would ask mom where she went that day. He knew exactly how far it was to each store and home, how far to the beach and home. Guess who was cheating? That's right, good ol dad.
I have friends that were close with Michelle. We prayed for her safe home coming but couldn't shake the thought of the worst. She was a good friend, excellent student, and the very least, a decent human being. To be a home wrecker was inconceivable...laughable. Her only fault was her unwillingness to cut someone out of her life. Thanks for covering her story.
I'm sorry for your friends loss. She was a beautiful young lady and I have a feeling that that's one of the reasons Gisele was so jealous & unhinged. Gisele was the opposite, through & through.
There’s a reason why Giselle didn’t get custody of her child. Clearly this woman was unhinged for some time before she murdered Michelle. My heart breaks for Michelle’s family. What a senseless and devastating crime.
Right? I wonder if anyone has dug up why she didn’t get custody. She must of done some crazy stuff (besides the fact she kinda kidnapped the child in the first place)
I always find it pretty strange how the stalkers like this always talk about how pathetic the victims are, but their entire lives revolve around harrassing said victims
Note to self: If ever interviewed by police involving a missing person, always cover face with hands the entire time and do not make eye contact with the interviewer. Nothing screams "innocent" more than this.
Mike's delivery is always spritely and witty despite the grisly content, and that makes listening to these tales enjoyable. I'm waiting, however, for a love triangle story to veer off into new new, unexpected territory, but it never happens. It's always pretty much the same story. A template could be made with the faces cut out; you know, like those old fashioned carnival placards you and your buddies could stick you heads in for a few photos.
I dunno maybe she told em to eff off she wants a lawyer its not smart to talk to police guilty or not, either way good for her. Whats her best friend doing sleeping with the fiance and whys Scotty Boy Sleeping with her exactly
Even if she didn't understand what her mom was saying, she knew the tone of her voice all too well. I wonder how many times "mom" interrogated her on what happened when she was with her dad. She was so paranoid and domineering that you just know that that kid was being used as a pawn and being put through some shit too.
Damn, Giselle is insane. The car ride recording almost sounded like something out of a movie, like she wrote a script before hand and said it. I’m honestly surprised that Scott put up with her as long as he did.
I met Michelle my freshmen year in college, we bonded over both being from San Diego. She was a genuinely nice girl, it was truly tragic to see all of this unfold on the news.
Mr. Give it a Gooo is making the online community come together harmoniously twice a week. All of us feel the love every time you say I love you to all of us at the end of your videos.
I was immediately suspicious of her when the cops said Michelle's name and she went "who??" like they weren't at one time close friends and would know her name instantly
It's like an obvious red flag at this point. I don't know how many videos guilty suspects have done this in, but I've seen a lot. I was pointing at the screen when I watched that as well. XD
I'm new in this but for Giselle to first answer with "Who?" And follow up with the story of her trying to get in touch herself is basically a smoking gun if I ever heard of one.
I know her brother was always right there next to whoever was talking to the media whether it was the father, sister, or mother, just holding them and being so supportive. The clip where he is being interviewed and had to pause and push back the tears too. It's clear he loves his family very much. :(
Giselle blamed Michelle for ruining her relationship with her ex-boyfriend but, after hearing his recording of her, I’d say Giselle was probably the reason…
@likeable antagonist Prove me that it is fake, I mean forensics and other investigators have checked it and believed it was her, plus text messages that proved that she is a very spiteful person.
That she paid no attention to her child witnessing all that says so much about Giselle as a mother. I'm glad the girl will grow up without her abusive presence.
When I was 8 I flew to see my bio dad for my summer visit. When I returned no one was there to meet me. It was 1974 so it was not possible to reach someone who was out. After many hours my mother showed up in a rage.. On the ride home she ranted about my step dad and told me in detail about the affair he had with his Co worker. There was so much of this through my young life with her many husband's and boy friends. My siblings and I were often left in the wake. I'm sure that's why I'm the least jealous person in the world. Please just leave if you no longer want to be with me, I will help you pack. I don't need a man to tell me who I am or validate me as a woman. To actually think someone deserves to die for cheating on you. The arrogance! And the little girl in the backseat, that was me. Made my heart break.
@@teejae2065 ,,, Long story short .. kids lived 800 miles away ,, never saw them grow .. got all "cried out" .. ever since ,,, i never fall in love with a woman that i will miss, if she leaves ... wanna go ??? BYE ... Now days my dates and i like it as "friends with benefits"... but we lean moire towards friends ... we admit we have "urges" .. and "It's" no big deal ,, it's like the "ol' hippie days", again,, anymore ... ( p.s., , i'm 70 y.o. ,, i go for those young tender 55 y.o. "chicks"...LOL)
I feel that the murderous one's family sure missed a lot of warning signs somehow. I am not blaming them, but I am sure that they knew that there was definitely a disordered personality in their family, and they really should have tried to get her some help and address and confront some issues with her, because one does not start talking to loved ones like there part of Team Sllitherin and making DEATH Promises just out of the blue, especially in front of their small child. There has to be some sort of a ramp up, you know? I feel sure with whatever disordered personality problem that she that she had, that she was just a loaded gun waiting to fire on someone, and if it was not poor Michelle or the father of her children, I suspect it likely would have BEEN her children, particularly as they grew older and possibly started having personalities and ideas of their own. She is one scary, unhappy, uncertain lady who who really spread the wealth of her unhappiness and poison personality around, and has as really torturously affected so many people's lives. We need to people like Michelle in nursing Hey nursing and it is so sad so sad that she had to pay the price...
Sorry speech to text so I apologize for all the errors. To rattled from this sad sad story to have checked before posting. I hope you can get the just through the speech to text errors!
@@nickelsworthmytencents393 I do the exact same thing! I swipe to text and when I read it again later there's ALLLLL kinds of grammatical errorss so no worries!
Yeah. What a truly awful person. That poor little girl, my eyes immediately started tearing up. I guess one silver lining is that the daughter doesn't have to deal with that unbelievably toxic selfish parent now.
@@LynxStarAuto I think it’s possible she was on the search team and volunteers for these sort of searches so it’s more like a logical reality than a coincidence.
@@mobilegameclips5628 yeah, she was actually the one who brought in the klaas foundation to help. Dateline did a whole episode on Michelle. I just found it interesting that Mike covered the daughter's story about a month ago.
When i was on the Search and Rescue team for Sierra LaMar, i met searchers who searched for Le. The last searchers who remained, searched tirelessly. Shout out to searchers everywhere and RIP LaMar n Le.
@Neria Wolf it’s the context that was chilling in my opinion, she’s saying that about someone who was once a close friend & also because of how things turned out
Giselle "How long has she been missing?" Cop: "Since yesterday." Giselle: "And have you guys tried calling her?" Cop: "Doh! No we didn't! Thank you so much Giselle! We'll try that right now! We *NEVER* would have thought of calling her!" Giselle: "You're welcome. Just call me if you guys need any more investigative advice." 👌
Plot twist: Imagine if the cops tried calling Michelle as soon as Giselle suggested it, and the ringing came from her purse? Ooooo buddy that would have been spicy.
as a healthcare worker it's honestly scary how quick many people (including my coworkers) assume someone in a white lab coat is a doctor... and noone wants to risk questioning a doctor and being wrong.
@@pinkbombshellcasing2672 I don't like my parents, like my dad was kind of abusive, but I can imagine how it would feel to have a murdering psycho as a parent. Sucks.
Yeah, that was so sad listening to her sweet little voice calling to her mummy. It really scared me they might have an accident because it was raining hard and Giselle is yelling at him to look at her while she's threatening him. What a psycho woman, very unstable and very sad - why do so many ppl think that murder is the answer? She won't get to see either children anymore and Michelle's life and her family's destroyed, forever changed, just like her own children when they learn about mummy dearest.
My 81 year old Mum and I think you're the best on RUclips and the hardest worker too! Thank you for all your hard work, you bring a lot of happiness to a lot of people 💯
I found a couple of videos of mike about two years ago and he didn’t have his confidence yet. It’s so great to see how more confident he’s gotten. I love this channel
This was the case that got me into true crime years ago and it's still one of the most chilling. You can be living your life and someone you see or know of could literally be seething with jealousy and hatred of you to the point of wanting you dead.The stories other people tell themselves about you can be so wild and even dangerous.
Agreed, this case is so creepy it could be made into a Netflix type documentary!! It’s like an unrealistic movie, with Giselle posing as a nursing student and stealing the ID, the car erratically driving, the dark way she talks about Michelle while being interrogated, the car recording all seem like a scripted movie. Like Mike said “a comic book villain “. Can’t believe I hadn’t heard about this case before!
@@cortneyrens It’s true it’s so wild that you think how is it real, how is it not scripted but then you realise you have seen bitter people who are that hateful but it’s still shocking that any one can convince themselves this would solve anything,
I remember this sad story well. Grew up in that area. My mother went to Samuel Merritt College for nursing also. How ironic that nut case Giselle accusing someone of having no goals or dreams.
What a horrendous tragedy for Michelle’s family. As others have said, my heart broke for that little girl trying to distract Giselle during her rant in the car. I have to wonder about Scott’s critical thinking skills.
@likeable antagonist same comment for the fourth time. Same dumb comment, for the fourth time. No doubt you've strewn them throughout. I won't bother to call you out again.
@@ShermThursby 🤣 I had to like both of your comments about the asinine "copy-paste conspiracy toddler". Oh no....we must be blind, uneducated sheep..... On 1 hand we have a "staged" murder. On the other hand we have court & public record documents about this case. Actors able to "buy" legal documents & upload them to the DoJ database?? Hollywood is pulling them strings 🙄🤣
@likeable antagonist you should take "likeable " off your nick name. It does not apply. You think Mike's videos are fake? Google the names of the victim and CONVICTED MUDERER. *smh* Do you have any idea at all how ridiculous you sound? 🙄
The fact that Scott not only hooked up with Giselle after their break up but fathered another child, clearly he wasn't interested in Michelle romantically. Giselle was too blinded by hate and jealousy and frankly too stupid to realize that. No man is worth killing over.
@abigmonkeyforme I mean, all of that is nothing but (overwhelmingly) baseless speculation, because - as far as I know - you don't actually know him as a person. There's not nearly enough to go off of to reliably assert such bold and specific assessments about his actual intentions or motives. You're free to guess and speculate, but you've gotta keep in mind and acknowledge that you very well could have a flawed or outright incorrect impression.
Scott sounds like a dummy who'd shag any hottie he could. I second the fact that men think very differently than women when it comes to sex, in general. We can have zero emotional ties and can be very opportunistic, with romance literally being something we do only to please women. Blame evolution. I wouldn't for a second doubt he banged Michelle many times after that first relationship, but that's just my hunch and I don't know the guy. I just know guys...
I initially had this case confused with the Annie Le case that occured at Yale. So I was super confused for a sec, but as this story kept unfolding it really got under my skin. She was fixated on Michele in such a scary way.
Giselle’s wicked tone during Scott’s recording of her in the car sounded just like how my abuser (mother) would threaten and verbally/emotionally berate me. Years after I got away from her, she attempted to kill my father because she snapped. She was convinced he was cheating on her (a lot of the abuse I endured was her accusing me of trying to take him away from her by having sexual relations with him. I’m his biological daughter and I used to have a close bond with him. It was her insane accusations and abuse that tore us apart. I was 15 when her abuse started.) My father ended up surviving the attack and she tried to tell officers he was the one he came after her. The evidence spoke for itself and she went to prison for attempted murder. Be extremely careful of people who talk to others like that. They’re dangerous people.
Yes exactly, I agree! When somebody gets mad at you and talks to you like they're on Team Slithern, you know you are dealing with somebody with something wrong in their upstairs.
Sorry you had to go through that. Where do you think the abusive behaviour came from? I have a mom who kinda does this too (lesser degree). I don't understand it.
@@pronoydutta614 my mother was severely abused by her mother. It runs in her family. She is very mentally unsound and needs serious help but she doesn’t think she needs it. :/
@H Oh, honey, I'm so sorry for your family experience. I can't imagine! So much loss for such a young person. Please consider reaching out to your dad if you haven't already. Remind him and yourself of the good times and close bond you once shared. Express interest in forming a relationship. Take baby steps. Be patient with each other. You were both the victim of your mother and you are both, therefore, very understanding of the other. Call him. Go have a cup of tea with him if you are within driving distance. I am rooting for you.
I too am sorry for what your mom was. I understand completely because my mom did the same to me starting when I was twelve. There is a specific term for this though I can’t remember it at the moment. You should Google it as it’s a very interesting subject. My therapist has said this is a form of sexual abuse and I get some relief knowing there are terms to describe this and while I am not happy others have had to endure it too, it has helped to know I wasn’t at fault nor a disgusting monster unlike any other that deserved it.
How the cops didn't immediately realize Giselle's statements didn't add up after they interviewed her I'll never know. It was painful to listen to her change her story so quickly practically unprompted. She jumped from not immediately recognizing the name to trying to contact Michelle for two weeks.
She couldn't lie her way out of a latex thong tbh, she's so bad at it. That makes it kind of amusing if it weren't so tragic. I'd love to watch more interrogation footage of her, covering her face like a child who got told that if you lie a spot appears on your head.
@@preston74 Mostly their laid back attitudes during the interview and the fact that they didn't seem to attempt put more pressure on her or put her under surveillance or anything. She's a horrible liar.
I have met and dated a individual who had these EXACT traits.... I could be courteous, and kind to employees at stores, complete strangers, then we'd get into crazy fights where she was convinced I knew them and was keeping lies from her. I've never dealt with such violence, and distorted reality. I'm glad we were able to go our separate ways and I honestly wish her the best because no one should live a life so full of toxicity, jealousy, paranoia, anger, control, no trust, twisting reality. I honestly want her to have the greatest life after our relationship. Like it can be a learning lesson if looked at from the right perspective. Just put out kind energy, and it's best to try and roll and be understanding with whatever life throws at you. Anger and violence is never the correct option. You can talk about tough subjects and stay level headed and content at the same time.
I think Mike does a great job informing the general public how dangerous emotionally unstable people can be. But in your post you wrote“ Put out kind of energy and roll whatever life throws at you” this is exactly the mentality narcissistic and other personality disordered people look for in mates and friends. There are great doctors and narcissistic abuse survivors here on RUclips. Dr. Ramani is a great place to start. Please get educated, you sound like the type of man that will probably raise outstanding children with the right woman. God bless and happy Thanksgiving.
Ben M. ,,, At 70 y.o. i kind of take life slower ... But i tried to live by the old saying ,,, """ Don't sweat the petty things ... Pet the sweaty things """ ... LOL
Spot on. I also had to move on from someone like that, despite our good memories, they changed… in a not so great way. I used to admire them until they started accusing me of shit I didn’t do and attacking who I was. Which was :/ no basis behind it. Hope you’re doing better. It’s worrying as hell thinking about what might set someone off man, it’s like you never know how when someone will snap, and what lies they’re buying into so much that leads them there.
@benmcreynolds, calm down luv 🦋.... You're not in that environment anymore, you can breath..... Sounds like in your comment you were reliving the moment.... It's okay now ( I am hoping anyway, at least you're saying it's over)... Anyway relax, continue to enjoy your life 🤘🏽👅..... Sending positive energy and loving prayers your way luv.... Hope your day's are full of joy and happiness ❣️😌......
So many questions. I'm trying to figure out why Scott wasn't petrified that she would follow through with her threat. Why get a restraining order and not let Michelle know she was in danger? Why continue to engage with someone threatening to murder you? I would've pulled over immediately and told her to get tf out. Idk. I just feel like no one took her seriously because of her size and gender. If this was a man, I think things could've been different.
He must've thought michelle would stop seeing him. He was keeping it a secret because he wanted to have sex with her. Didn't care for her at all. You shouldn't get involved in other people's marriages tbh, it almost never end happily for anyone involved. She should've just noped out there. Feel really sorry for her.
I think he maybe did tell her? It's not stated whether he did or didn't. He did have video so he def did share it. He and michelle also may have thought Michelle was safe since she was 8 hours away. And Michelle seems nice so maybe she went despite knowing about the threats?
@@dryb3301 Are you really suggesting that Michelle got involved in their marriage even tho it was proven wrong? The phrase 'you shouldn't get involved in other people's marriages' sounds like you're victim-blaming Michelle for the obsession of another woman who clearly wasn't in her right state of mind. Yikes.
Do you know how common it is for a woman to threaten a man? I'm not going to say it's most, but it is sure a lot. Ask a few men if they've ever been threatened by a girlfriend and take note that the majority will likely say yes. You kind of get used to it after a while. Plus, him being a decent guy, probably didn't want his kid to be completely cut off from the mom.
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Truth. I tried to go back to Dateline and I just can't. They drag it out for soooo long with irrelevant info and dumb interviews with the victims old mailman from that one apt they lived in 10 years ago just to hit that one hour mark.
the fact Gizelle lost custody of her daughter, IN California, tells you EVERYTHING you need to know about her .. CA is a very - VERY - mom-friendly state; meaning in custody battles, it is rare the mom loses custody unless egregious actions are proven .. rest in peace, Michelle 💔
@@tinawindham6958 : i’m talking about a COURT RULING. if a Court rules custody to ONE parent, it doesn’t matter what THAT parent does, where that parent goes, etc etc .. custody is theirs.
I cant believe that freaking psycho had the nerve to talk shit about Michelle to the detective, knowing damn well that she had murdered her. It is sad that the little girl lost her mother, but perhaps its fir the betterment of the child in the long run. 💜🦋
It was not that dumb actually. Police already knew they had a tumultuous relationship. Hiding that when Michelle was only missing for 24 hours would have been tipped off the police.
Red Alert weather warning, severe snow and winds. I'm snuggled up inside with trusty ol' Mike. Thank you for bringing the entertainment and always being reliable we love you x
If your girlfriend or partner or FRIEND speaks like that to you. That tone... those words... PLEASE RUN AS FAR AS YOU CAN!! My abusive ex boyfriend speaks like that to me. I was able to get out but not without being busted.. I wish nothing but peace for the LE family
I think the problem is the mental state prior to the relationship that allows a person to be abused. This is a complex topic and while good advice I had heard many times "i never thought I would be the one in a abusive relationship". Something changes in people either in a traumatic experience or lack of education and there are some good theories but no definitive. I wish it was as easy as telling people not to get abused but life is more complicated than that.
When a psycho says sh*t like that, in that tone of voice, you can pretty much know that they will follow through with their threats. The problem is that often when people go to the police to report this, the police say come back when something happens. Or people, even health professionals or any other normal human being cannot wrap their head around the fact that the person making those threats would actually carry through with them. I actually feel sorry for Michelle and Scott that they had such a monster in their lives, they both seem like really decent people.
@@EricHamm in my ‘50’s I finally understood why. It took 4 years and a breakdown before I understood something that I wish I’d known at 20..so perhaps my experience can help someone else not fall into the same trap over and over. It was 4 years after Mum died that I finally understood that she had a narcissistic personality disorder..and she had been a very, very abusive mother..in every way. Physically, mentally, emotionally, socially..also, I was her possession ( she called it love?)..and she did not want to share me with anyone, and that included my own sisters. The problem was that without understanding it, she has essentially turned me into a sitting duck for people just like her, and I found myself being treated in exactly the same way...I’d have Mum doing absolutely everything she could to destroy my relationships on one hand, while having a relationship and been treated exactly the same way that Mum had treated me when I lived at home..from birth to 17. If I had understood how Mum’s narcissism had essentially shaped me into being prey, I could have avoided two abusive husbands. You live and learn.
My ex did the same. Always looked me in the eyes when he was sober and said ”i know i get all cute when i smoke. But now i am telling you this. That one day i Will kill you” then when he smoked, he Said sorry and that he wanted to marry me and so on. I got pregnant. And i have always said to myself that if i ever get pregnant(Because i did not know that i even could get preg) i Will never do an abortion. But i did. I was so scared, he Said that he would kill me and the baby, and i knew that he was serious. And i Dont wanna hide for the rest of my life. Now i finally have a good man. But wow… my ex really f me up . For No reason at all , other than… he was just crazy
Can't thank Mike enough for making these easy to listen to at work even when I can't see what's going on, he describes everything in great detail and even reads texts between people! Always a good listen.
That car recording reminded me sooo much of my ex-girlfriend it's unreal. Glad I dropped her a year or so ago, being a bachelor is absolute bliss nw, f all that co-dependency, not being fulfilled if single bs, my life is so beautifully simple now....and why fix what isn't broken. Another great upload Mike, showed the perils of jealousy which is one of the most destructive emotions, you never get any winners come out of it it.
Ian, just remember….next time, take time to get to really know the woman. Not all women are jealous and crazy. Pick better, you will have a better outcome. 🙂
Definitely you don’t need anyone to be happier or successful. Not all men or woman are poison, but it’s so rare to find someone who is open minded enough to worry about you and themselves and same goes for you. If you feel happier single, that’s all that matters. Relationships aren’t a necessity. They are a privilege if they’re not toxic. I’m glad you got out of that mess, you deserved better.
god, she had such a promising, full life in front of her....this is so heartbreaking. it makes me furious and so sad that people feel they have the audacity to take away a human life....not only destroying that life, but all those lives around that person who loved and cared for them. its really that simple NOT to do shit like this. People are fucking crazy. In what world is murder ever an answer for jealousy? how does your brain even go there and think its going to work?
Agreed. She may have very well saved Giselle's children from harm, emotional, physical or otherwise. There's never a "silver lining" in these stories is there? But I try to find good things. I hope Those 2 children live their very best lives away from their biological mother. The sadness and immeasurable waste of the loss of Michelle is profound - seeing and listening to her brother and sister and father made me cry.
That recording is so chilling. The fact that her daughter is in the car and she's talking like that around her blows my mind. Glad she got what she deserved
So let me understand this...Michelle dated Scott and her then "best friend" decided to take a run at him after they broke up? And she is the one who didn't trust Michelle...oooookay. Looks like the fella got off "scott" free...he could have been next on her killing list. You are awesome Mike.
Why did Scott date Giselle? full stop, especially after datimg her best friend. Don't people have any comman sense any more, or any loyalty in friendship?
The way Giselle was talking to him in the car, like he was her 7 year old child, was so frustrating to listen to. That condescending yelling, "Do you hear me?", "Look at me!" and "Do you understand me?" .. I'm sure she had red flags springing up all over the place before all of this went down. Giselle is the type of person that everyone should avoid or run from.
Cellphone towers have to ping devices to make sure they can communicate. Its normal and not some sinister tracking action. More times then not that information is only obtained in cases like this where a suspect's previous whereabouts need to be confirmed via the device's location over time.
Jesus, what a tragedy 😕 When someone has that much hatred for another individual, it usually means that person is quite miserable with his or her own life. RIP Michelle Le
This channel and Jim can't swim are one of the few channels that actually make respectable, respectful content about heinous crime. Thanks its nice to have a fluff free, mature coverage of these sensitive stories
Although you have no idea who I am, I am proud to call you my friend. I visit you once or twice a week which is far more frequent than I see my IRL friends. You’ve taught and entertained me so much over the past 2ish years, thank you so much brother. Have a good weekend
Many would wonder why Scott would date a girl like Giselle who is clearly crazy. I dated a girl like that years ago, who I believe was a sociopath. They can only hide their true selves for while, but then their true selves start to show. I wouldn't be surprised if while Giselle and Scott were together, she started noticing that Scott was figuring her out and might dump her, snd that's when she got pregnant. And then she used sex to try and get him back, and when that didn't work, she got pregnant again. - It's also likely she blamed Michelle for her failed relationship as a way not to blame herself.
Great day to spend the day at home with Mike! The weather sux and I don’t go anywhere near stores on Black Friday. Rather spend it here watching Mike’s videos!
My former fiancé actually DID cheat on me with a married man. I think she’s a bad human being but I’ve never had the desire to ruin my entire life because of it.
Hearing that little "Mommy" from the back seat twice in that crazy rant while driving down the freeway in the rain just broke my heart. The rant is 16:00 - 16:50, and the little one speaks up at 16:29 and 16:31. *She,* a wee tot, is trying to calm her mother, knowing full-well that something is way amiss. Poor sweet child. Mike, thanks for pronouncing Michelle Le's name correctly! You always research such things and we all really appreciate it!
Ah cheers Mike, you’ve brightened up my Friday! Red weather alert in NE Scotland, I’m under 2 blankets and a duvet, have the heating on and thick clothes, so you’ve made my Friday a LOT better!!!
I feel that. I’m so afraid that I’m going to see friend the story of my friend in some German true crime podcast. She was murdered almost 2 years ago in April, when her ex shot her around 10am when she left her home to go to work. He ran after her, she was able to call 911 while running into a flower store, where he killed her, execution style. It was horrendous. She was a social worker, a Christian who worked with kids. I used to be religious and feel from faith after this happened. There is no god where children suffer and a young woman is killed senselessly.
Wow. That would be weird to experience. 2 people I went to high school with were murdered in separate cases a couple years apart. One will probably never be solved because they've never found her and the likely killer committed suicide shortly after it happened. The other case the cops have a pretty good idea who did it, they've just never been able to solve it. Both cases have been cold for around 20 years now. I wasn't super close with either person/victim but it's something I think about from time to time and would love for both cases to be solved. I think that a lot of us that are interested in true crime have experienced it irl in one way or another.
If you’re gonna make threats, at least be grammatically correct. LMAO Mike! Another tragic story expertly presented. You have one of the best true crime channels out there. RIP Michelle Le, rot in hell Giselle.
Thank you for pronouncing her last name correctly and for covering this case I never thought i'd see a case about my city ! I was 11 when this case came out and this case was unraveling very close to me so I was keeping every part of this case updated. I was very sad to see the tragic news..
I had grown up jealous, and it's such a self destructive emotion. Going up through my teens I saw how it was based in my own insecurity and lack of self esteem - which is why it's so hurtful when you feel it! Thankfully, I put a lot of effort into recognising it and working on it! Otherwise you'll be convinced your partner's unfaithful and you'll do everything to find the "proof" as if it's going to make you happy! As the problem is really your own self esteem, you'll keep looking for the proof until you drive him away one way or another! Jealousy and happiness pretty much don't go together 🤷🏻♀️ That's my lesson to all you young ones from one who's way over the hill!😸 Hope someone is able to learn from my mistakes!
Proud of you for recognizing and doing the work necessary to get past this issue! Self-awareness doesn't come easy, we can grasp for excuses and play the name-blame game all day and night, but if we ever want to make progress, we are going to have to sit with ourselves to the point of acceptance... And even then, there's still SO much work to do. It's not easy, it's not fun, and it's not the sort of thing one can tackle in a day... It's an ongoing battle with a darkness that seeks to destroy us, all the while acting like our only friend, pushing all others away with crazy accusations and complete disbelief that anyone could truly love us... But this darkness resides so deeply in our own minds, no one can fight it but us. Well meaning friends, family, loved ones can try to help, point out the nonsense and the unbelievable truth, but that deep seated darkness is quick to jump on the defensive, always at the ready to convince us that anyone trying to help us is actually just using that as a ploy to further harm us. It's all a sham, it's all a conspiracy, it's us against them and the only way to win is to side with our selves, our own delusions, bc only we know us and we know that no one in their right mind could ever truly love us. But that's not true. We can be better, we can do so much more, if only we can find the will and the strength to turn our back on the one who has been there from the start, because THAT is the one who has been hurting us all along. The dark within us needs to be pushed out into the light and shown for what it really is: our own worst enemy.
@@bad.avocado thank you, that's kind of you. Yes, you really need to be honest with yourself but ask yourself the questions and don't ignore the answers! So much misery comes from not being taught we have worth or not believing it. Sounds like you've done some self reflection yourself!☺️
@@ThimbleFox350 No, the point being made is that the issue lies in the person feeling that way. No-one MAKES you feel anything, it's entirely your responsibility what you do with your own emotions. That doesn't mean that there aren't ppl out there who will see someone's insecurity and low self-esteem and play with them, use it against them, to enjoy watching them unravel - when you're with someone like that you definitely run!
I remember this like it was yesterday. Was in my last semester of grad school at Berkeley when this happened and I had friends in med school at UCSF across the Bay that were talking about it and how strange it all was. To say that we were all shocked when everything came out would be an understatement. She had such a bright future ahead.
Mike's delivery is always spritely and witty despite the grisly content, and that makes listening to these tales enjoyable. I'm waiting, however, for a love triangle story to veer off into new new, unexpected territory, but it never happens. It's always pretty much the same story. A template could be made with the faces cut out; you know, like those old fashioned carnival placards you and your buddies could stick you heads in for a few photos.
This was one of the first cases that got me watching TRUE CRIME story’s! It was on Discovery ID’s show called See No Evil. It just made me feel so sad for the victim and all those affected by their death. So senseless....
Been so busy the last few months. But am relieved I have hours upon hours of that chapter to catch up on. You the best mike! I remember thinking “wow this channel is going to blow up” _wasn’t wrong_
Giselle's audio clip was so overly dramatic, I had a crystal clear image in my mind of her putting her fingertips together and muttering the word "Excellent" in a low, sinister voice, like a real-world, flesh and blood, female version of Mr. Burns.
My partner of five years came out to me as a survivor of mental (some mild physical) abuse from a previous relationship. No one deserves to be unsafe in relationships. This toxic behavior is systemic to being possessive of a person as private property. His sister helped him out and I’m thoroughly thankful. This young woman deserved better. RIP Michelle.
I always though this was such a sad story, just needless violence. Thanks Mike, great job putting this one together. I'd never heard the recording from the car before.
The recording of Giselle's threat is not the sound of a comic book villain. It is the sound of a very violent person being dead serious. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. Especially one whose grievances are fictional.
My husband's daughter and her mother are this kind of crazy. It's scary. I've actually included provisions in my will to cover us and our son dying in a suspicious manner. I feel ridiculous, but this shit happens in other families, so....
@@ShermThursby Let them know that they will be the first suspects if you fear them that much. Or just take a bat to their heads. But that's more a NYC thing :)
@@ShermThursby You've done the right thing. If this channel has proven anything, it is that wills and life insurance policies are the perfect motivation for would-be murderers within the family. I wish you did not have to be vigilant all the time in the face of these people.
Wow I remember you hitting 100K subs. Now you're knocking on the door of 1.5M!!! Congratulations Mike! You really do deserve it! You even have your own genre of "That Chapter inspired" videos!
For the life of me I cannot understand how Scott went back to Giselle. You get a restraining order on the sociopath, not even a judge would entrust her with the care of her own child, but you go and have another baby with her? How?
Probably the usual abuser cycle of abuse and then love bombing, the book Why does he do that? Is pretty good for understanding the psychology of abusers amd the abused
This makes me so angry! A jealous psychopath that murdered a innocent girl trying to make life better. I know what an insane jealous person can do to ruin lives. It hits me in the gut! At least the child won't be subjected to her, thank the goddess! Great video, Mike, that sort of hit home. Thank you and stay safe!
I've got a theory:
I think the reason Giselle was so convinced Michelle and Scott were sleeping together behind her back is likely because she did the same thing to Michelle.
Giselle couldn't believe her friend was honestly not betraying her because she had done the very thing she was accusing Michelle of.
In her mind Michelle couldn't be a good friend because Giselle wasn't.
So Michelle possibly had a boyfriend (not her baby daddy) that cheated on her with Giselle. It is impossible to be the dad since they only dated for 3 weeks, they weren't even in a relationship at that stage.
It is usually the cheaters and liars who are the quickest to accuse others of cheating and lying, to be sure.
I think she was also aware Michelle was prettier and had more going for her
I think you nailed it. I have seen over the years liars accuse someone truthful time and time again, adulterers accuse faithful partners again and again, etc. The old saying, "It takes one to know one," is definitely not true.
Exactly. My father constantly accused my mom of cheating. If he went to work with one of his brothers and left the family car at home he would check the odometer before leaving then upon returning after work the first thing he did was check the odometer. He then would ask mom where she went that day. He knew exactly how far it was to each store and home, how far to the beach and home. Guess who was cheating? That's right, good ol dad.
I have friends that were close with Michelle. We prayed for her safe home coming but couldn't shake the thought of the worst. She was a good friend, excellent student, and the very least, a decent human being. To be a home wrecker was inconceivable...laughable. Her only fault was her unwillingness to cut someone out of her life. Thanks for covering her story.
I'm so sorry for your loss. Thank you so much for taking the time to tell us what a great person Michelle was. God Bless 🙏🏾💙🙏🏾💙🙏🏾💙🙏🏾 ...
People don't go back to or someones else's .... vomit.
@@davidcross701 what
I'm sorry for your friends loss. She was a beautiful young lady and I have a feeling that that's one of the reasons Gisele was so jealous & unhinged. Gisele was the opposite, through & through.
@@davidcross701 Huh...? 🤔
There’s a reason why Giselle didn’t get custody of her child. Clearly this woman was unhinged for some time before she murdered Michelle. My heart breaks for Michelle’s family. What a senseless and devastating crime.
Right? I wonder if anyone has dug up why she didn’t get custody. She must of done some crazy stuff (besides the fact she kinda kidnapped the child in the first place)
oh yeah
@@pinkbombshellcasing2672 she must of been telling wild tales in front of the judge if she easily lost custody. Big red flag.
I was thinking the same thing. Normally courts favour the child being with their mother, so she must have been deemed unfit.
Making death threats in front of her own daughter, to kill the father! That would be enough.
I always find it pretty strange how the stalkers like this always talk about how pathetic the victims are, but their entire lives revolve around harrassing said victims
Very good point.
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Michelle was pretty pathetic...
To me stalkers are as pathetic as anime fans
Note to self:
If ever interviewed by police involving a missing person, always cover face with hands the entire time and do not make eye contact with the interviewer.
Nothing screams "innocent" more than this.
Kanye West has a skit about that
Mike's delivery is always spritely and witty despite the grisly content, and that makes listening to these tales enjoyable. I'm waiting, however, for a love triangle story to veer off into new new, unexpected territory, but it never happens. It's always pretty much the same story. A template could be made with the faces cut out; you know, like those old fashioned carnival placards you and your buddies could stick you heads in for a few photos.
Ayyyy nice tip my guy 😊😘
...and if asked about a lifelong friend turned arch enemy, always respond with, "who?"
I dunno maybe she told em to eff off she wants a lawyer its not smart to talk to police guilty or not, either way good for her. Whats her best friend doing sleeping with the fiance and whys Scotty Boy Sleeping with her exactly
Heartbreaking hearing the child worriedly saying "mom..." while Gizelle was ranting about murdering them.
right?! cot dayum.
The baby knew there was something wrong with Mommy and wrong with the words she was using. No wonder she lost custody. Damn that psych evaluation!
Truly sickening!!
Pure insanity
Even if she didn't understand what her mom was saying, she knew the tone of her voice all too well. I wonder how many times "mom" interrogated her on what happened when she was with her dad. She was so paranoid and domineering that you just know that that kid was being used as a pawn and being put through some shit too.
Damn, Giselle is insane. The car ride recording almost sounded like something out of a movie, like she wrote a script before hand and said it. I’m honestly surprised that Scott put up with her as long as he did.
A lot of men will put up with abusive controlling women for some cooter (vagina).
For years, men have been raised & groomed to tolerate abuse from women
@@aliinwonderland656 Exactly!
He is a dummy to have had a second kid
The weakness from Scott in that recording was real tough to hear. Poor guy was a total Beta male Soy boy.
I met Michelle my freshmen year in college, we bonded over both being from San Diego. She was a genuinely nice girl, it was truly tragic to see all of this unfold on the news.
Crazy to hear a story so close to home. South Bay here.
Sorry for your loss..it's crazy isn't it
She went to SJSU for her freshman year. You meant her first year at where?
@Julia Kerber 🐼
Moral of the story is dont fck your best friends boyfriend specially if they have kids, thats sick also.
Mr. Give it a Gooo is making the online community come together harmoniously twice a week. All of us feel the love every time you say I love you to all of us at the end of your videos.
i just noticed Disturban also does tuesdays and fridays
Some of us only hear “I love you” when we hear it from Mike!
Mike is the best. MrBallen is also right up there.
He didn't say it in a recent video and I was genuinely bummed.
@@kimmyfreak200 I noticed that too! I rarely watch that channel though because I feel like I'm cheating on Mike. 😂
I was immediately suspicious of her when the cops said Michelle's name and she went "who??" like they weren't at one time close friends and would know her name instantly
It's like an obvious red flag at this point. I don't know how many videos guilty suspects have done this in, but I've seen a lot. I was pointing at the screen when I watched that as well. XD
oh that call is like the end of the game, all clear. ehh who? ehh oh.. 🤦🏻
Exactly and her hate of michelle was obvious
Yup, at that point we all knew she was guilty.
Not to disagree, since Michelle was still in Giselle’s life, but you’d be surprised how fast you can forget someone!
I'm new in this but for Giselle to first answer with "Who?" And follow up with the story of her trying to get in touch herself is basically a smoking gun if I ever heard of one.
I thought the same thing. “WHO?” Followed by; “I’ve been looking for her for a week to tell her stay away from child.” 🧐 What an absolute psycho!
Yeah, the “how long has she been missing?” immediately followed by “actually I’ve been looking for her myself” did not do her any favors
Welcome to the internet police hahaha
Yeah the who part was so cringe don’t be dumb right?
@@deadinthewater218 lol my body completely did the ol involuntary eye roll
Giselle: "Have you guys tried calling her?"
Police: WTF... THAT'S an option? Why didn't we think of that before tracking her friends down?!? 🙄
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My heart went out to Michelle’s brother & sister addressing the media together. So brave and so supportive of each other
I know her brother was always right there next to whoever was talking to the media whether it was the father, sister, or mother, just holding them and being so supportive. The clip where he is being interviewed and had to pause and push back the tears too. It's clear he loves his family very much. :(
Giselle blamed Michelle for ruining her relationship with her ex-boyfriend but, after hearing his recording of her, I’d say Giselle was probably the reason…
I feel as though Scott and Michelle stayed friends because they needed to commiserate about dealing with batshit crazy Giselle.
Yup. She's crazy and trying to control. Typical personality disorder type stuff.
@likeable antagonist What are you talking about? Who is acting?
@likeable antagonist you clearly are the one with an impaired sense of judgment if you think it was fake!
@likeable antagonist Prove me that it is fake, I mean forensics and other investigators have checked it and believed it was her, plus text messages that proved that she is a very spiteful person.
the little girl going "mama..." in the background is so haunting
Her brother's love for her rips at my heart. Wishing them love & healing.
16:29 The little “Mom” coming from the backseat breaks my heart…Poor kid, can’t imagine having a mother like that…
That she paid no attention to her child witnessing all that says so much about Giselle as a mother. I'm glad the girl will grow up without her abusive presence.
Explains why she lost custody.
When I was 8 I flew to see my bio dad for my summer visit. When I returned no one was there to meet me. It was 1974 so it was not possible to reach someone who was out. After many hours my mother showed up in a rage.. On the ride home she ranted about my step dad and told me in detail about the affair he had with his Co worker. There was so much of this through my young life with her many husband's and boy friends. My siblings and I were often left in the wake. I'm sure that's why I'm the least jealous person in the world. Please just leave if you no longer want to be with me, I will help you pack. I don't need a man to tell me who I am or validate me as a woman. To actually think someone deserves to die for cheating on you. The arrogance!
And the little girl in the backseat, that was me. Made my heart break.
You get use to it.
@@teejae2065 ,,, Long story short .. kids lived 800 miles away ,, never saw them grow .. got all "cried out" .. ever since ,,, i never fall in love with a woman that i will miss, if she leaves ... wanna go ??? BYE ... Now days my dates and i like it as "friends with benefits"... but we lean moire towards friends ... we admit we have "urges" .. and "It's" no big deal ,, it's like the "ol' hippie days", again,, anymore ... ( p.s., , i'm 70 y.o. ,, i go for those young tender 55 y.o. "chicks"...LOL)
Hearing that tiny voice saying "Mommy" from the backseat during GIselle's psychotic rant just broke my heart in pieces. Rest in Peace Michelle 💔
I feel that the murderous one's family sure missed a lot of warning signs somehow. I am not blaming them, but I am sure that they knew that there was definitely a disordered personality in their family, and they really should have tried to get her some help and address and confront some issues with her, because one does not start talking to loved ones like there part of Team Sllitherin and making DEATH Promises just out of the blue, especially in front of their small child. There has to be some sort of a ramp up, you know?
I feel sure with whatever disordered personality problem that she that she had, that she was just a loaded gun waiting to fire on someone, and if it was not poor Michelle or the father of her children, I suspect it likely would have BEEN her children, particularly as they grew older and possibly started having personalities and ideas of their own. She is one scary, unhappy, uncertain lady who who really spread the wealth of her unhappiness and poison personality around, and has as really torturously affected so many people's lives. We need to people like Michelle in nursing Hey nursing and it is so sad so sad that she had to pay the price...
Sorry speech to text so I apologize for all the errors. To rattled from this sad sad story to have checked before posting. I hope you can get the just through the speech to text errors!
@@nickelsworthmytencents393 I do the exact same thing! I swipe to text and when I read it again later there's ALLLLL kinds of grammatical errorss so no worries!
Yes. I almost had to pause it. That was so heartbreaking.
Yeah. What a truly awful person. That poor little girl, my eyes immediately started tearing up. I guess one silver lining is that the daughter doesn't have to deal with that unbelievably toxic selfish parent now.
Interesting fact: the person who located Michelle's remains was the mother of another victim your channel covered just a few weeks ago - Amber Dubois.
Poor women 😓 is interesting tho 👍
Wow what a morbid coincidence. Jesus
@@LynxStarAuto I think it’s possible she was on the search team and volunteers for these sort of searches so it’s more like a logical reality than a coincidence.
@@mobilegameclips5628 yeah, she was actually the one who brought in the klaas foundation to help. Dateline did a whole episode on Michelle.
I just found it interesting that Mike covered the daughter's story about a month ago.
@@Die-Angst Hardy-har-har. Your name fits. Grammatical errors aside, you know what i meant.
When i was on the Search and Rescue team for Sierra LaMar, i met searchers who searched for Le. The last searchers who remained, searched tirelessly. Shout out to searchers everywhere and RIP LaMar n Le.
thank you also❤
They never found sierra did they ? So sad
“I stopped knowing her a long time ago.” That line’s actually pretty chilling.
Not really for a bilingual person..I hear ppl talk with that kind of phrasing a lot in California w people who speak Spanish and english
Bruh is your profile pic the ice man? It looks so creepy
Yes it is because she said it so cold
@@KarenLeos91 it is
@Neria Wolf it’s the context that was chilling in my opinion, she’s saying that about someone who was once a close friend & also because of how things turned out
"We're looking for Michelle."
"Who?"
*a minute later*
"Actually, I've been looking for her for about a week now."
why do they always act so suspicious lol
Lmao as soon as she said it I thought, "gotcha!!!"
Major red flag
Yep, liars do that to buy time. Red Flag
Through gritted teeth "To tell her to keep away from my child" well that sounds innocent haha
Giselle "How long has she been missing?"
Cop: "Since yesterday."
Giselle: "And have you guys tried calling her?"
Cop: "Doh! No we didn't! Thank you so much Giselle! We'll try that right now! We *NEVER* would have thought of calling her!"
Giselle: "You're welcome. Just call me if you guys need any more investigative advice."
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Lmaoooooooo God right? That was so insulting
@@annaelisavettavonnedozza9607 Lol she's got a big ego.
Call her? What a novel idea you should be a detective!
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Plot twist: Imagine if the cops tried calling Michelle as soon as Giselle suggested it, and the ringing came from her purse? Ooooo buddy that would have been spicy.
as a healthcare worker it's honestly scary how quick many people (including my coworkers) assume someone in a white lab coat is a doctor... and noone wants to risk questioning a doctor and being wrong.
All you need is a clip board and a hi vis vest If you dont want to be questioned.
@@Tezwah I wold find a doctor with a hi viz vest quite suspicious haha
@@gru6y17 haha true, but you could still get into a hospital with the hi vez. But fair call lol no one is going to take a prescription from you
That's why you don't believe Fauci or any doctor about effectiveness of the vaccine. Always double check things :)
@@kam1470 double check them where? Links?
The fact that during Giselle telling Scott she was basically going to kill them you can hear her little girl trying to get her attention is so sad.
yes the little girl was scared and trying 2 calm her mother down 😢
@@shadipahlavi that’s so sad. No child should have to go through that
@@pinkbombshellcasing2672 I don't like my parents, like my dad was kind of abusive, but I can imagine how it would feel to have a murdering psycho as a parent. Sucks.
That broke my heart
Yeah, that was so sad listening to her sweet little voice calling to her mummy. It really scared me they might have an accident because it was raining hard and Giselle is yelling at him to look at her while she's threatening him. What a psycho woman, very unstable and very sad - why do so many ppl think that murder is the answer? She won't get to see either children anymore and Michelle's life and her family's destroyed, forever changed, just like her own children when they learn about mummy dearest.
My 81 year old Mum and I think you're the best on RUclips and the hardest worker too! Thank you for all your hard work, you bring a lot of happiness to a lot of people 💯
My 76 yo mum seconds that 👏👏
My mom would have loved Mike! Enjoy watching with your mommas! Your time together is truly precious.
I found a couple of videos of mike about two years ago and he didn’t have his confidence yet. It’s so great to see how more confident he’s gotten. I love this channel
This was the case that got me into true crime years ago and it's still one of the most chilling. You can be living your life and someone you see or know of could literally be seething with jealousy and hatred of you to the point of wanting you dead.The stories other people tell themselves about you can be so wild and even dangerous.
Agreed, this case is so creepy it could be made into a Netflix type documentary!! It’s like an unrealistic movie, with Giselle posing as a nursing student and stealing the ID, the car erratically driving, the dark way she talks about Michelle while being interrogated, the car recording all seem like a scripted movie. Like Mike said “a comic book villain “. Can’t believe I hadn’t heard about this case before!
@@cortneyrens It’s true it’s so wild that you think how is it real, how is it not scripted but then you realise you have seen bitter people who are that hateful but it’s still shocking that any one can convince themselves this would solve anything,
I remember this sad story well. Grew up in that area. My mother went to Samuel Merritt College for nursing also. How ironic that nut case Giselle accusing someone of having no goals or dreams.
She is projecting.
What a horrendous tragedy for Michelle’s family. As others have said, my heart broke for that little girl trying to distract Giselle during her rant in the car. I have to wonder about Scott’s critical thinking skills.
@likeable antagonist so a fake homicide with crisis actors? Was this done so Michelle could get a clean break & flee somewhere?
@likeable antagonist same comment for the fourth time.
Same dumb comment, for the fourth time.
No doubt you've strewn them throughout.
I won't bother to call you out again.
@@ShermThursby 🤣 I had to like both of your comments about the asinine "copy-paste conspiracy toddler".
Oh no....we must be blind, uneducated sheep..... On 1 hand we have a "staged" murder.
On the other hand we have court & public record documents about this case.
Actors able to "buy" legal documents & upload them to the DoJ database?? Hollywood is pulling them strings 🙄🤣
@likeable antagonist you should take "likeable " off your nick name. It does not apply. You think Mike's videos are fake? Google the names of the victim and CONVICTED MUDERER. *smh* Do you have any idea at all how ridiculous you sound? 🙄
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The fact that Scott not only hooked up with Giselle after their break up but fathered another child, clearly he wasn't interested in Michelle romantically. Giselle was too blinded by hate and jealousy and frankly too stupid to realize that. No man is worth killing over.
Also clearly he wasn’t thinking straight.
@abigmonkeyforme
I mean, all of that is nothing but (overwhelmingly) baseless speculation, because - as far as I know - you don't actually know him as a person. There's not nearly enough to go off of to reliably assert such bold and specific assessments about his actual intentions or motives. You're free to guess and speculate, but you've gotta keep in mind and acknowledge that you very well could have a flawed or outright incorrect impression.
Scott must like crazy if he went back for more. That is self-evident!!
Scott sounds like a dummy who'd shag any hottie he could. I second the fact that men think very differently than women when it comes to sex, in general. We can have zero emotional ties and can be very opportunistic, with romance literally being something we do only to please women. Blame evolution.
I wouldn't for a second doubt he banged Michelle many times after that first relationship, but that's just my hunch and I don't know the guy. I just know guys...
No person is worth killing over. Period.
I initially had this case confused with the Annie Le case that occured at Yale. So I was super confused for a sec, but as this story kept unfolding it really got under my skin. She was fixated on Michele in such a scary way.
I did too. Quite confusing for a bit.
Giselle’s wicked tone during Scott’s recording of her in the car sounded just like how my abuser (mother) would threaten and verbally/emotionally berate me.
Years after I got away from her, she attempted to kill my father because she snapped. She was convinced he was cheating on her (a lot of the abuse I endured was her accusing me of trying to take him away from her by having sexual relations with him. I’m his biological daughter and I used to have a close bond with him. It was her insane accusations and abuse that tore us apart. I was 15 when her abuse started.)
My father ended up surviving the attack and she tried to tell officers he was the one he came after her. The evidence spoke for itself and she went to prison for attempted murder.
Be extremely careful of people who talk to others like that. They’re dangerous people.
Yes exactly, I agree! When somebody gets mad at you and talks to you like they're on Team Slithern, you know you are dealing with somebody with something wrong in their upstairs.
Sorry you had to go through that.
Where do you think the abusive behaviour came from?
I have a mom who kinda does this too (lesser degree). I don't understand it.
@@pronoydutta614 my mother was severely abused by her mother. It runs in her family. She is very mentally unsound and needs serious help but she doesn’t think she needs it. :/
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Oh, honey, I'm so sorry for your family experience. I can't imagine! So much loss for such a young person.
Please consider reaching out to your dad if you haven't already. Remind him and yourself of the good times and close bond you once shared. Express interest in forming a relationship. Take baby steps. Be patient with each other. You were both the victim of your mother and you are both, therefore, very understanding of the other.
Call him. Go have a cup of tea with him if you are within driving distance. I am rooting for you.
I too am sorry for what your mom was. I understand completely because my mom did the same to me starting when I was twelve. There is a specific term for this though I can’t remember it at the moment. You should Google it as it’s a very interesting subject. My therapist has said this is a form of sexual abuse and I get some relief knowing there are terms to describe this and while I am not happy others have had to endure it too, it has helped to know I wasn’t at fault nor a disgusting monster unlike any other that deserved it.
How the cops didn't immediately realize Giselle's statements didn't add up after they interviewed her I'll never know. It was painful to listen to her change her story so quickly practically unprompted. She jumped from not immediately recognizing the name to trying to contact Michelle for two weeks.
What made you think they didn't know?
She couldn't lie her way out of a latex thong tbh, she's so bad at it. That makes it kind of amusing if it weren't so tragic. I'd love to watch more interrogation footage of her, covering her face like a child who got told that if you lie a spot appears on your head.
Quite possibly she was at the top of their suspect list due to her statements, but without enough evidence yet to charge her with at the time.
They knew, they let them keep talking to incriminate themselves as a source of evidence. Hence why we are read our rights. They knew
@@preston74 Mostly their laid back attitudes during the interview and the fact that they didn't seem to attempt put more pressure on her or put her under surveillance or anything. She's a horrible liar.
I have met and dated a individual who had these EXACT traits.... I could be courteous, and kind to employees at stores, complete strangers, then we'd get into crazy fights where she was convinced I knew them and was keeping lies from her. I've never dealt with such violence, and distorted reality. I'm glad we were able to go our separate ways and I honestly wish her the best because no one should live a life so full of toxicity, jealousy, paranoia, anger, control, no trust, twisting reality. I honestly want her to have the greatest life after our relationship. Like it can be a learning lesson if looked at from the right perspective. Just put out kind energy, and it's best to try and roll and be understanding with whatever life throws at you. Anger and violence is never the correct option. You can talk about tough subjects and stay level headed and content at the same time.
I think Mike does a great job informing the general public how dangerous emotionally unstable people can be. But in your post you wrote“ Put out kind of energy and roll whatever life throws at you” this is exactly the mentality narcissistic and other personality disordered people look for in mates and friends.
There are great doctors and narcissistic abuse survivors here on RUclips. Dr. Ramani is a great place to start.
Please get educated, you sound like the type of man that will probably raise outstanding children with the right woman.
God bless and happy Thanksgiving.
Ben M. ,,, At 70 y.o. i kind of take life slower ... But i tried to live by the old saying ,,, """ Don't sweat the petty things ... Pet the sweaty things """ ... LOL
Spot on. I also had to move on from someone like that, despite our good memories, they changed… in a not so great way. I used to admire them until they started accusing me of shit I didn’t do and attacking who I was. Which was :/ no basis behind it. Hope you’re doing better. It’s worrying as hell thinking about what might set someone off man, it’s like you never know how when someone will snap, and what lies they’re buying into so much that leads them there.
Jesus Mary & Joseph...poor you, she needed medication in the worst way
@benmcreynolds, calm down luv 🦋.... You're not in that environment anymore, you can breath..... Sounds like in your comment you were reliving the moment.... It's okay now ( I am hoping anyway, at least you're saying it's over)... Anyway relax, continue to enjoy your life 🤘🏽👅.....
Sending positive energy and loving prayers your way luv.... Hope your day's are full of joy and happiness ❣️😌......
So many questions. I'm trying to figure out why Scott wasn't petrified that she would follow through with her threat. Why get a restraining order and not let Michelle know she was in danger? Why continue to engage with someone threatening to murder you? I would've pulled over immediately and told her to get tf out. Idk. I just feel like no one took her seriously because of her size and gender. If this was a man, I think things could've been different.
He must've thought michelle would stop seeing him. He was keeping it a secret because he wanted to have sex with her. Didn't care for her at all.
You shouldn't get involved in other people's marriages tbh, it almost never end happily for anyone involved.
She should've just noped out there. Feel really sorry for her.
I think he maybe did tell her? It's not stated whether he did or didn't. He did have video so he def did share it. He and michelle also may have thought Michelle was safe since she was 8 hours away. And Michelle seems nice so maybe she went despite knowing about the threats?
@@dryb3301 Are you really suggesting that Michelle got involved in their marriage even tho it was proven wrong? The phrase 'you shouldn't get involved in other people's marriages' sounds like you're victim-blaming Michelle for the obsession of another woman who clearly wasn't in her right state of mind. Yikes.
@@tangerin__a4804 true... And for a mom to lose her kid she def wasn't stable since they give the mom rights aleays
Do you know how common it is for a woman to threaten a man? I'm not going to say it's most, but it is sure a lot. Ask a few men if they've ever been threatened by a girlfriend and take note that the majority will likely say yes.
You kind of get used to it after a while. Plus, him being a decent guy, probably didn't want his kid to be completely cut off from the mom.
Mike, I would say you’ll end up on the ID channel with your own show but,… your content is 100% better than any show on cable or network television!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
That is absolutely true. I am addicted to his channel :D
Truth. I tried to go back to Dateline and I just can't. They drag it out for soooo long with irrelevant info and dumb interviews with the victims old mailman from that one apt they lived in 10 years ago just to hit that one hour mark.
No idea network television was still around...been years haha
Agree!
The downside of getting a tv gig is then the suits control the content and you must answer to them. Definitely a good time to be working for yourself.
Giselle essentials got with her friends ex then had the nerve of accusing HER of home-wrecking. Pathetic.
“Have you tried calling her?” I mean, absolutely genius! Case closed!
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right? like no we're knocking on doors before calling her .....
We've been checkin dumpsters but dw, calling her is on the list right after storm drains.
the fact Gizelle lost custody of her daughter, IN California, tells you EVERYTHING you need to know about her .. CA is a very - VERY - mom-friendly state; meaning in custody battles, it is rare the mom loses custody unless egregious actions are proven ..
rest in peace, Michelle 💔
That’s actually pretty much every state. Which frustrates me for my extended family’s sake.
@@jediping haha they call it “mom-friendly” which is just a nick name for “men get discriminated against in our justice system and we don’t care.”
@@skidguy2893 find a different soap box
Courts don’t like one parent taking the child away where the other parent can’t see them.
@@tinawindham6958 : i’m talking about a COURT RULING.
if a Court rules custody to ONE parent, it doesn’t matter what THAT parent does, where that parent goes, etc etc .. custody is theirs.
I cant believe that freaking psycho had the nerve to talk shit about Michelle to the detective, knowing damn well that she had murdered her. It is sad that the little girl lost her mother, but perhaps its fir the betterment of the child in the long run. 💜🦋
She’s had two kids with Scott
@Moby DIll They only dated for 3 weeks.
I believe they have mother and child jails.
It was not that dumb actually.
Police already knew they had a tumultuous relationship.
Hiding that when Michelle was only missing for 24 hours would have been tipped off the police.
@Moby DIll Giselle put herself into that situation lol
Red Alert weather warning, severe snow and winds. I'm snuggled up inside with trusty ol' Mike. Thank you for bringing the entertainment and always being reliable we love you x
Be safe fellow Chapter-er
What state is that Wendy?
Me too all snuggled up in bed
@@hansolo631 old york
Ghoul.
If your girlfriend or partner or FRIEND speaks like that to you. That tone... those words... PLEASE RUN AS FAR AS YOU CAN!! My abusive ex boyfriend speaks like that to me. I was able to get out but not without being busted.. I wish nothing but peace for the LE family
I think the problem is the mental state prior to the relationship that allows a person to be abused. This is a complex topic and while good advice I had heard many times "i never thought I would be the one in a abusive relationship". Something changes in people either in a traumatic experience or lack of education and there are some good theories but no definitive. I wish it was as easy as telling people not to get abused but life is more complicated than that.
When a psycho says sh*t like that, in that tone of voice, you can pretty much know that they will follow through with their threats. The problem is that often when people go to the police to report this, the police say come back when something happens. Or people, even health professionals or any other normal human being cannot wrap their head around the fact that the person making those threats would actually carry through with them. I actually feel sorry for Michelle and Scott that they had such a monster in their lives, they both seem like really decent people.
@@EricHamm in my ‘50’s I finally understood why. It took 4 years and a breakdown before I understood something that I wish I’d known at 20..so perhaps my experience can help someone else not fall into the same trap over and over. It was 4 years after Mum died that I finally understood that she had a narcissistic personality disorder..and she had been a very, very abusive mother..in every way. Physically, mentally, emotionally, socially..also, I was her possession ( she called it love?)..and she did not want to share me with anyone, and that included my own sisters. The problem was that without understanding it, she has essentially turned me into a sitting duck for people just like her, and I found myself being treated in exactly the same way...I’d have Mum doing absolutely everything she could to destroy my relationships on one hand, while having a relationship and been treated exactly the same way that Mum had treated me when I lived at home..from birth to 17. If I had understood how Mum’s narcissism had essentially shaped me into being prey, I could have avoided two abusive husbands. You live and learn.
@@virginiaviola5097 all my best to you... - from another narcissist’s daughter, turned codependent.
My ex did the same. Always looked me in the eyes when he was sober and said ”i know i get all cute when i smoke. But now i am telling you this. That one day i Will kill you” then when he smoked, he Said sorry and that he wanted to marry me and so on.
I got pregnant. And i have always said to myself that if i ever get pregnant(Because i did not know that i even could get preg) i Will never do an abortion.
But i did. I was so scared, he Said that he would kill me and the baby, and i knew that he was serious. And i Dont wanna hide for the rest of my life. Now i finally have a good man.
But wow… my ex really f me up . For No reason at all , other than… he was just crazy
Can't thank Mike enough for making these easy to listen to at work even when I can't see what's going on, he describes everything in great detail and even reads texts between people! Always a good listen.
That car recording reminded me sooo much of my ex-girlfriend it's unreal. Glad I dropped her a year or so ago, being a bachelor is absolute bliss nw, f all that co-dependency, not being fulfilled if single bs, my life is so beautifully simple now....and why fix what isn't broken. Another great upload Mike, showed the perils of jealousy which is one of the most destructive emotions, you never get any winners come out of it it.
glad you are out of that situation
I love this for you 🤧🤍
Glad you were able to get out of a horrible relationship like that and I’m glad you’re happier now 😊
Ian, just remember….next time, take time to get to really know the woman. Not all women are jealous and crazy. Pick better, you will have a better outcome. 🙂
Definitely you don’t need anyone to be happier or successful. Not all men or woman are poison, but it’s so rare to find someone who is open minded enough to worry about you and themselves and same goes for you. If you feel happier single, that’s all that matters. Relationships aren’t a necessity. They are a privilege if they’re not toxic. I’m glad you got out of that mess, you deserved better.
god, she had such a promising, full life in front of her....this is so heartbreaking. it makes me furious and so sad that people feel they have the audacity to take away a human life....not only destroying that life, but all those lives around that person who loved and cared for them. its really that simple NOT to do shit like this. People are fucking crazy. In what world is murder ever an answer for jealousy? how does your brain even go there and think its going to work?
She was a chinese spy, she got what she needed.
Ego, solipsism and narcissism.
We've taken the Lord out of everything , school , homes , and the media !! The world is diseased , the ONLY answer is Jesus !!!!!!
Agreed. She may have very well saved Giselle's children from harm, emotional, physical or otherwise. There's never a "silver lining" in these stories is there? But I try to find good things. I hope Those 2 children live their very best lives away from their biological mother.
The sadness and immeasurable waste of the loss of Michelle is profound - seeing and listening to her brother and sister and father made me cry.
@@michaeldailey7103 lol that’s fucking stupid if you’re being serious.
I live in NorCal, & remember when this happened. Michelle's family seems so loving & loyal. My heart goes out to them.
That recording is so chilling. The fact that her daughter is in the car and she's talking like that around her blows my mind. Glad she got what she deserved
So let me understand this...Michelle dated Scott and her then "best friend" decided to take a run at him after they broke up? And she is the one who didn't trust Michelle...oooookay. Looks like the fella got off "scott" free...he could have been next on her killing list. You are awesome Mike.
Exactly. Soooo weird to date your best friends ex
@@amazingsupergirl7125 no proof that Michelle did date the slag scott. None.
Why did Scott date Giselle? full stop, especially after datimg her best friend. Don't people have any comman sense any more, or any loyalty in friendship?
@@amazingsupergirl7125 It happens sometimes.
I dated someone like Giselle. Grateful to have gotten out. Michelle didn’t deserve any of this.
What made me chuckle was when Giselle said “look at me” - Scott was driving with rain pissing down.
Right?! Who does she think she is
"Looook at me Hector..."
“LOOK AT ME!” said the Joker in The Dark Knight
This line occurs in "The Forty-Year-Old Virgin" directed at the Steve Carell character.
I laughed too! I couldn't help it 🤭😬
The fact that girl sat there with her face covered for that interview/interrogation is pretty telling
The way Giselle was talking to him in the car, like he was her 7 year old child, was so frustrating to listen to. That condescending yelling, "Do you hear me?", "Look at me!" and "Do you understand me?" .. I'm sure she had red flags springing up all over the place before all of this went down. Giselle is the type of person that everyone should avoid or run from.
Total psycho I am glad she got what she deserved. Life in jail.
I know alot of people don't like any "big brother" tracking them, but the cellular data is really a fantastic tool.
So is CCTV. : )
Cellphone towers have to ping devices to make sure they can communicate. Its normal and not some sinister tracking action. More times then not that information is only obtained in cases like this where a suspect's previous whereabouts need to be confirmed via the device's location over time.
I am one of those people who hates big bro...but if that's what would find my kids ..go for it.
@bOuLeVaRd oF bRoKeN dReAmS the conundrum there is...who decides what's "terrible"....
It has to do with who's hands it's in. Up with the good guys.
Jesus, what a tragedy 😕
When someone has that much hatred for another individual, it usually means that person is quite miserable with his or her own life.
RIP Michelle Le
So true!
This channel and Jim can't swim are one of the few channels that actually make respectable, respectful content about heinous crime. Thanks its nice to have a fluff free, mature coverage of these sensitive stories
Adrian at Coffeehouse Crime is a good one.
Yikes, jealousy is a hell of a drug. Hope she never leaves prison, she fits right in there.
I swear, I feel like we're all one big family here. Mike, as usual, you're the absolute man. We love you!
It is a great group of people :)
🎄agreed! 👍
Hello Mike lots of luv great work and research and luv your silly /funny moments
Remarkable 🌞👍❤️
But then again....there is alot of murders that happen within a family on this channel😁
Absolutely!!!
Although you have no idea who I am, I am proud to call you my friend. I visit you once or twice a week which is far more frequent than I see my IRL friends. You’ve taught and entertained me so much over the past 2ish years, thank you so much brother. Have a good weekend
Many would wonder why Scott would date a girl like Giselle who is clearly crazy. I dated a girl like that years ago, who I believe was a sociopath. They can only hide their true selves for while, but then their true selves start to show. I wouldn't be surprised if while Giselle and Scott were together, she started noticing that Scott was figuring her out and might dump her, snd that's when she got pregnant. And then she used sex to try and get him back, and when that didn't work, she got pregnant again. - It's also likely she blamed Michelle for her failed relationship as a way not to blame herself.
Yeh an the bit wer scot was banging someone else,,, who he knew cud get pregnant!! Naughty boy, tut tut!
yeah she is clearly very manipulative i feel bad for her kids
Did ur gf do that to u ???
People that have dated the crazy ones know why or how people can date the crazy ones
Great day to spend the day at home with Mike! The weather sux and I don’t go anywhere near stores on Black Friday.
Rather spend it here watching Mike’s videos!
Nothing spoken but the truth😀
@@lostcub8572 😀🌹
You have an interesting surname lol im joking.
No lies there!!! 🙌
Hands down best true crime channel! The music, the thorough coverage of the cases, the editing, and Mike of course! ❤️
🌟🌟🌟🌟!
My former fiancé actually DID cheat on me with a married man. I think she’s a bad human being but I’ve never had the desire to ruin my entire life because of it.
Ironic, isn't it? Those that wrong you usually aren't worth the prison time if you take "revenge", like some of these people.
That car conversation gave me mad chills and I wasn’t even in the car with her.
Her friend looks so guilty covering her face up like that.
That's so ignorant as well.
Came in right as my tea finished brewing. Thank God for Mike!
Have a good weekend, Mike! Thanks for kicking it off for us!
Hearing that little "Mommy" from the back seat twice in that crazy rant while driving down the freeway in the rain just broke my heart. The rant is 16:00 - 16:50, and the little one speaks up at 16:29 and 16:31. *She,* a wee tot, is trying to calm her mother, knowing full-well that something is way amiss. Poor sweet child.
Mike, thanks for pronouncing Michelle Le's name correctly! You always research such things and we all really appreciate it!
11:56 Giselle must have no self-awareness to not realize how odd covering your face for an entire conversation is.
That was so frustrating…I wanted the interrogator to grab her hands from her face so badly
Agreed, and zero awareness of CCTV cameras.
Have you guys tried calling her?" "oh wow, no, we didnt think of that... thanks " hahaha
Ah cheers Mike, you’ve brightened up my Friday! Red weather alert in NE Scotland, I’m under 2 blankets and a duvet, have the heating on and thick clothes, so you’ve made my Friday a LOT better!!!
Same downunder in Sydney, thunderstorms predicted.
It’s a perfect 72 degrees here in Florida! 🌞 Love to hear about other countries!
Thank you to Mike for bringing us together! ♥️
It's 37 degrees in Maryland and very windy hope everyone stays warm
@@bulldogmomx2901 I'm so jelly wish it was 72 here hope you have a great night
I’m in south 🏴 wales and the wind is. Howling outside. We got a yellow warning and our lights keep going out. 😳🇬🇧
This woman and case is so disturbing. And that poor child. So glad the kids survived and are away from that sick woman.
Mike, you don’t even know how much you have helped me. Your vids have helped me stay level while everything has been going upside down. Thank you.
It is so insane seeing previous classmates & friends end up on series like these.
Wow I can’t even imagine how that looks tbh. It must feel seriously weird seeing it play out.
I’m sorry :(
I feel that. I’m so afraid that I’m going to see friend the story of my friend in some German true crime podcast. She was murdered almost 2 years ago in April, when her ex shot her around 10am when she left her home to go to work. He ran after her, she was able to call 911 while running into a flower store, where he killed her, execution style. It was horrendous. She was a social worker, a Christian who worked with kids. I used to be religious and feel from faith after this happened. There is no god where children suffer and a young woman is killed senselessly.
Wow. That would be weird to experience. 2 people I went to high school with were murdered in separate cases a couple years apart. One will probably never be solved because they've never found her and the likely killer committed suicide shortly after it happened. The other case the cops have a pretty good idea who did it, they've just never been able to solve it. Both cases have been cold for around 20 years now. I wasn't super close with either person/victim but it's something I think about from time to time and would love for both cases to be solved. I think that a lot of us that are interested in true crime have experienced it irl in one way or another.
@@M1985- That sounds horrible. I hope they caught her ex.
I love the way Mike always tells us to take care of ourselves. ,
It's like he's saying "I dont wanna be covering any of my fans murder stories"
I think it would break Mikes heart if he did a story on someone and it was revealed that the person liked to watch 'That Chapter' videos.
If you’re gonna make threats, at least be grammatically correct. LMAO Mike! Another tragic story expertly presented. You have one of the best true crime channels out there. RIP Michelle Le, rot in hell Giselle.
Thank you for pronouncing her last name correctly and for covering this case I never thought i'd see a case about my city ! I was 11 when this case came out and this case was unraveling very close to me so I was keeping every part of this case updated. I was very sad to see the tragic news..
I had grown up jealous, and it's such a self destructive emotion. Going up through my teens I saw how it was based in my own insecurity and lack of self esteem - which is why it's so hurtful when you feel it! Thankfully, I put a lot of effort into recognising it and working on it! Otherwise you'll be convinced your partner's unfaithful and you'll do everything to find the "proof" as if it's going to make you happy! As the problem is really your own self esteem, you'll keep looking for the proof until you drive him away one way or another! Jealousy and happiness pretty much don't go together 🤷🏻♀️ That's my lesson to all you young ones from one who's way over the hill!😸 Hope someone is able to learn from my mistakes!
Proud of you for recognizing and doing the work necessary to get past this issue! Self-awareness doesn't come easy, we can grasp for excuses and play the name-blame game all day and night, but if we ever want to make progress, we are going to have to sit with ourselves to the point of acceptance... And even then, there's still SO much work to do. It's not easy, it's not fun, and it's not the sort of thing one can tackle in a day... It's an ongoing battle with a darkness that seeks to destroy us, all the while acting like our only friend, pushing all others away with crazy accusations and complete disbelief that anyone could truly love us... But this darkness resides so deeply in our own minds, no one can fight it but us. Well meaning friends, family, loved ones can try to help, point out the nonsense and the unbelievable truth, but that deep seated darkness is quick to jump on the defensive, always at the ready to convince us that anyone trying to help us is actually just using that as a ploy to further harm us. It's all a sham, it's all a conspiracy, it's us against them and the only way to win is to side with our selves, our own delusions, bc only we know us and we know that no one in their right mind could ever truly love us.
But that's not true. We can be better, we can do so much more, if only we can find the will and the strength to turn our back on the one who has been there from the start, because THAT is the one who has been hurting us all along. The dark within us needs to be pushed out into the light and shown for what it really is: our own worst enemy.
@@bad.avocado thank you, that's kind of you. Yes, you really need to be honest with yourself but ask yourself the questions and don't ignore the answers! So much misery comes from not being taught we have worth or not believing it. Sounds like you've done some self reflection yourself!☺️
& If you're with someone who constantly making you feel this emotion then you're just not with the right one and you gotta get outta there.
Very thoughtful post - and being over the hill isn't so bad you can now see the other side:)-
@@ThimbleFox350 No, the point being made is that the issue lies in the person feeling that way. No-one MAKES you feel anything, it's entirely your responsibility what you do with your own emotions. That doesn't mean that there aren't ppl out there who will see someone's insecurity and low self-esteem and play with them, use it against them, to enjoy watching them unravel - when you're with someone like that you definitely run!
"Giselle Solid Snaked her way into Michelle's nursing school..." That one made me laugh. You're the best, Mike.
I remember this like it was yesterday. Was in my last semester of grad school at Berkeley when this happened and I had friends in med school at UCSF across the Bay that were talking about it and how strange it all was. To say that we were all shocked when everything came out would be an understatement. She had such a bright future ahead.
Mike's delivery is always spritely and witty despite the grisly content, and that makes listening to these tales enjoyable. I'm waiting, however, for a love triangle story to veer off into new new, unexpected territory, but it never happens. It's always pretty much the same story. A template could be made with the faces cut out; you know, like those old fashioned carnival placards you and your buddies could stick you heads in for a few photos.
This was one of the first cases that got me watching TRUE CRIME story’s! It was on Discovery ID’s show called See No Evil. It just made me feel so sad for the victim and all those affected by their death. So senseless....
This has got to be one of the best episodes of That Chapter. The story is put together so well.
Been so busy the last few months. But am relieved I have hours upon hours of that chapter to catch up on. You the best mike! I remember thinking “wow this channel is going to blow up” _wasn’t wrong_
Mike has to have one of the best like to dislike ratios ever, truly a great RUclipsr
We’ll never know now.
Mrballen has him beat
Both are good!
@@matttaylor9070 I wouldn't say he has him beat but MrBallen is definitely in the top 3 imo
Mike and MrBallen fan bases are probably comprised of the same people.
Crazy that they have her on tape texting while all the texts on Michelle’s phone were being answered.
Nothing says guilty AF like being afraid to even look at the cop 😂
Giselle's audio clip was so overly dramatic, I had a crystal clear image in my mind of her putting her fingertips together and muttering the word "Excellent" in a low, sinister voice, like a real-world, flesh and blood, female version of Mr. Burns.
My partner of five years came out to me as a survivor of mental (some mild physical) abuse from a previous relationship. No one deserves to be unsafe in relationships. This toxic behavior is systemic to being possessive of a person as private property. His sister helped him out and I’m thoroughly thankful. This young woman deserved better. RIP Michelle.
I always though this was such a sad story, just needless violence. Thanks Mike, great job putting this one together. I'd never heard the recording from the car before.
I was working at this hospital as a travel nurse when this happened. I'm glad you covered this. Great job👏.
Thanks
The recording of Giselle's threat is not the sound of a comic book villain. It is the sound of a very violent person being dead serious.
Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. Especially one whose grievances are fictional.
My husband's daughter and her mother are this kind of crazy.
It's scary.
I've actually included provisions in my will to cover us and our son dying in a suspicious manner.
I feel ridiculous, but this shit happens in other families, so....
@@ShermThursby Let them know that they will be the first suspects if you fear them that much. Or just take a bat to their heads. But that's more a NYC thing :)
@@ShermThursby You've done the right thing. If this channel has proven anything, it is that wills and life insurance policies are the perfect motivation for would-be murderers within the family. I wish you did not have to be vigilant all the time in the face of these people.
That recording actually made me feel physically sick and nauseous. Brings back awful memories. And her daughter having to hear is just so twisted. :(
Wow I remember you hitting 100K subs. Now you're knocking on the door of 1.5M!!! Congratulations Mike! You really do deserve it! You even have your own genre of "That Chapter inspired" videos!
Yes great start to the weekend. Hope everybody ate well and enjoyed Thanksgiving! Appreciate you Mike!
Happy Holiday weekend to you as well. Enjoy!
@@Die-Angst I'm sorry about your father. My mom and step dad were out of town, and my step mom has COVID so I spent time at home.
For the life of me I cannot understand how Scott went back to Giselle. You get a restraining order on the sociopath, not even a judge would entrust her with the care of her own child, but you go and have another baby with her? How?
Exactly
Thinking with the wrong head.
People are stupid
It's hard when a child is involved . And clearly she was manulipating him
Probably the usual abuser cycle of abuse and then love bombing, the book Why does he do that? Is pretty good for understanding the psychology of abusers amd the abused
she took obsession to the next level. may Michelle rest in peace
This makes me so angry! A jealous psychopath that murdered a innocent girl trying to make life better. I know what an insane jealous person can do to ruin lives. It hits me in the gut!
At least the child won't be subjected to her, thank the goddess!
Great video, Mike, that sort of hit home. Thank you and stay safe!
Yeah most people would agree, murder won't solve yer problems.
So, she dated her friend's ex, then got extremely jealous of the said friend? *Insert rolling eyes here*
The way her voice drops to a low whisper at 16:20 is absolutely terrifying..
Mike has a stash of endless, great story-telling. I love the account, my favorite on RUclips!