Pilot hands down. It’s just as roomy, but It’s better quality, drives better superior engine transmission AWD system combo. Toyota has none of that yet it’s significantly more expensive
Just my opinion, I will take a NA V6 over a turbo 4 any day of the week. Call me old school, but this will influence my future purchase decision. I will give Honda props for the removable center section to the 2nd row bench seat with ability to store it in the rear.
Everyone complains about the screen but honestly you hardly look at it while your driving. it doesn't need to be any bigger. its completely fine and frankly a completely irrelevant issue. It would be much worse if there weren't dedicated buttons from things like seat and climate controls. ... that would be idiotic. (we own a 2023 top end model).
For me, the problem isn't the screen size itself necessarily, but the awful cheap looking bezel surrounding the screen. This bezel reminds you every time you look at it that Honda actually designed the dash to fit the bigger screen found in the accord.
You should note that many of the features you don't get with the Pilot lower trim levels are also not available on lower trim levels of the Kia Telluride. For example, Telluride EX doesn't have 360 deg view and it doesn't have front obstacle sensors. Yes, the display is smaller than a Telluride, but you can put some of that data into the digital instrument cluster e.g. music data. The displayable nav map on the Elite 9" screen is the same as if your Telluride is in the split screen mode. I recently traded in my 2023 Telluride EX for a 2024 Honda Pilot Elite and I'm very satisfied with the Pilot. The user interface on the Pilot to me is far more intuitive than the Kia and not as quirky.
That V6 will be more dependable that a turbo 4, less moving parts and less abuse on the engine. Hondas reliability speaks for itself. Ive had 2 Pilots and will buy a third one soon.
@@joelc9329 To be fair, Toyota has only started to use Turbo's for most of their vehicles and well it seems to have gone unnoticed, Toyota has undergone a huge philosophy shift with the retiring of many of its key execs. That is why the sudden shift to turbos and all hybrid Camrys.
Loved the Pilot. Was so close to buying a Touring last month. Love how it drove and looked. I just got so many more "extras" for my money with the Palisade, so I went with that.
I just bought a 24 touring and I love it. It is the nicest Honda pilot. I’ve owned since 2013. It has a different feeling when you’re driving it than any of my other pilots and it feels more luxury than anything else. I’ve had. so far no complaints. I’ve always been happy with Honda. I don’t care about the screen size and I’m not gonna downgrade to a Hyundai ho for silly unimportant features.
I m interested in the Honda because of Honda quality and reliability, i own a 2019 Aura RDX and it has only been in the shop for oil changes and as you may know Honda makes Acura.
1. The techs you mentioned were mostly personal preference. On the scale, I would say Honda's current generation tech would be one of the easiest to use. Screen size is likely going to be updated soon as the refreshed MDX just received a larger infotainment screen. 2. In terms of the powertrain, could we be realistic and honest, almost all of them get the similar projected MPG, and not to mention they are basically the same in the real-world. I will take Honda's V6 over most of these Turbo-4 engines on the market. 3. Some of the luxury features would be nice to have but they would achieve absolutely nothing, and only to drive up the MSRP. For example, you mentioned the head-up display, personally it is super distracting, I will stick with the gauge only; in terms of the folding mechanism of the 3rd row, give me the basis manual lever or a strap, way faster and easier. As they said, if it did not break, don't fix it. 4. AWD adds extra, and almost unnecessary costs of ownership, maintenance, and fuel economy. It is awesome to see Honda gives it as an option, not forcing consumers to eat it up. 5. In the real world, the 3rd row is only meant for children and only very brief trips for adults, I personally do not notice a significant difference between Pilot, Grand Highlander and Atlas.
This won't tell you that Hyundai gets stolen so much that the insurance is ridiculous. He won't tell you that the V6 in Hyundai is basically obsolete design, he never mentions reliability.
I just do not like the Computer Screen sticking up like that. I didnt like it on other cars and do not like it on this Honda. There are many other doable styling designs.
One of the main deficiencies of reviews of SUVs is the lack of measurement of cargo- or passengers- or towing-WEIGHTS. For example, it should be easy for the reviewer to put, say, the necessary extra 150-180 lb dummies or even sandbags into the vehicle to see exactly what effect all that cargo mass would have on the get-up-and-go necessary to climb an entrance ramp onto a superhighway to merge safely with traffic. While testing TOWING performance is harder if the test SUV does not have a tow package, towing performance is also critical in a SUV. These vehicles are not meant to be sports cars, so watching the reviewer zoom off at a high speed may be entertaining, but it does not impart that much useful knowledge in the cargo-hauling sense.
The ventilated seats on the elite don't work that well. HUD never had one , I have it now and its no big deal. Info screen could be bigger. Tha accord has a 12 in screen. I bought a pilot for the reliability and name.
Bro what are you talking about? The Highlander is SIGNIFICANTLY smaller than the Honda Pilot. I mean, ok, point out the incrementally smaller third seat, but you’re getting a ton more space everywhere else.
@@dwnshfteveryone says that the third row is larger in the GH but what about where it matters, up in the first row? I’ve always found Toyotas to be slightly more cramped than equivalent Hondas
Folks I test drove 5 Honda Pilots and I can tell you, they really are not that impressive. The biggest thing for me was the steering wheel is weird? I feel like I'm rotating the wheel completely just to turn slightly left or right. I ended up buying another SUV but don't get the Honda Pilot. This suv sucks
Your comments don't match other reviews. I have watched a lot on 4th Gen Pilot 2023-2025 the last few years. Steering is not one of the Cons they ever mentioned. In fact more than a few praise it. Pilot gets knocks for infotainment screen size. Less tech features than many competitors. Fuel Economy. Not as luxurious as some others. Use of a Timing Belt. Another review also said Pilot handles better than Korean twins.
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Pilot hands down. It’s just as roomy, but
It’s better quality, drives better superior engine transmission AWD system combo. Toyota has none of that yet it’s significantly more expensive
The screen is not great. It looks like an afterthought. The overall design of the vehicle is generic and boring IMHO,🥱
Just my opinion, I will take a NA V6 over a turbo 4 any day of the week. Call me old school, but this will influence my future purchase decision. I will give Honda props for the removable center section to the 2nd row bench seat with ability to store it in the rear.
The only way they can keep the v6 is by having that engine destroying cylinder deactivation system.xd
I've owned two Pilot's, and I prefer the dependable engine and transmission. The fancy extras are not going to distract me.
great review thank you. Toyota can keep their little 4 cylinders hybrid turbos
Everyone complains about the screen but honestly you hardly look at it while your driving. it doesn't need to be any bigger. its completely fine and frankly a completely irrelevant issue. It would be much worse if there weren't dedicated buttons from things like seat and climate controls. ... that would be idiotic. (we own a 2023 top end model).
*you’re
@@iamthedutchbrogay
Exactly!!! It’s not like we’re talking about the view screen of the USS Enterprise !!!
For me, the problem isn't the screen size itself necessarily, but the awful cheap looking bezel surrounding the screen. This bezel reminds you every time you look at it that Honda actually designed the dash to fit the bigger screen found in the accord.
You should note that many of the features you don't get with the Pilot lower trim levels are also not available on lower trim levels of the Kia Telluride. For example, Telluride EX doesn't have 360 deg view and it doesn't have front obstacle sensors. Yes, the display is smaller than a Telluride, but you can put some of that data into the digital instrument cluster e.g. music data. The displayable nav map on the Elite 9" screen is the same as if your Telluride is in the split screen mode. I recently traded in my 2023 Telluride EX for a 2024 Honda Pilot Elite and I'm very satisfied with the Pilot. The user interface on the Pilot to me is far more intuitive than the Kia and not as quirky.
Wow it just looks so generic and kind of boring IMHO 🥱
That V6 will be more dependable that a turbo 4, less moving parts and less abuse on the engine. Hondas reliability speaks for itself. Ive had 2 Pilots and will buy a third one soon.
Toyotas reliability speaks for itself and has a better resale value.
@@joelc9329 To be fair, Toyota has only started to use Turbo's for most of their vehicles and well it seems to have gone unnoticed, Toyota has undergone a huge philosophy shift with the retiring of many of its key execs. That is why the sudden shift to turbos and all hybrid Camrys.
Loved the Pilot. Was so close to buying a Touring last month. Love how it drove and looked. I just got so many more "extras" for my money with the Palisade, so I went with that.
I just bought a 24 touring and I love it. It is the nicest Honda pilot. I’ve owned since 2013. It has a different feeling when you’re driving it than any of my other pilots and it feels more luxury than anything else. I’ve had. so far no complaints. I’ve always been happy with Honda. I don’t care about the screen size and I’m not gonna downgrade to a Hyundai ho for silly unimportant features.
Same here and totally agree with you!
I m interested in the Honda because of Honda quality and reliability, i own a 2019 Aura RDX and it has only been in the shop for oil changes and as you may know Honda makes Acura.
Really like your videos. What camera do you use? Do you edit the videos yourself? What program do you use? Thank you.
I got the black edition 2025 it’s love no complaint at all fantastic ride
1. The techs you mentioned were mostly personal preference. On the scale, I would say Honda's current generation tech would be one of the easiest to use. Screen size is likely going to be updated soon as the refreshed MDX just received a larger infotainment screen.
2. In terms of the powertrain, could we be realistic and honest, almost all of them get the similar projected MPG, and not to mention they are basically the same in the real-world. I will take Honda's V6 over most of these Turbo-4 engines on the market.
3. Some of the luxury features would be nice to have but they would achieve absolutely nothing, and only to drive up the MSRP. For example, you mentioned the head-up display, personally it is super distracting, I will stick with the gauge only; in terms of the folding mechanism of the 3rd row, give me the basis manual lever or a strap, way faster and easier. As they said, if it did not break, don't fix it.
4. AWD adds extra, and almost unnecessary costs of ownership, maintenance, and fuel economy. It is awesome to see Honda gives it as an option, not forcing consumers to eat it up.
5. In the real world, the 3rd row is only meant for children and only very brief trips for adults, I personally do not notice a significant difference between Pilot, Grand Highlander and Atlas.
we had a crv touring 2019 and got the pilot 24 touring and LOST the rain-sensing windshield wipers.... WHAT??
The trailer hitch is extra, $1295. A very comfortable drive. 😀
I wish the 2nd row had armrests when the middle seat is removed to mimic captain's chair.
It doesn’t??? Not cool
This won't tell you that Hyundai gets stolen so much that the insurance is ridiculous. He won't tell you that the V6 in Hyundai is basically obsolete design, he never mentions reliability.
This is a Honda.
@@ShiIoh27 He keeps comparing it to the Hyundai.
Not full adjustable passenger seat at any trim level....toyota gets it on comfort
I just do not like the Computer Screen sticking up like that. I didnt like it on other cars and do not like it on this Honda. There are many other doable styling designs.
One of the main deficiencies of reviews of SUVs is the lack of measurement of cargo- or passengers- or towing-WEIGHTS. For example, it should be easy for the reviewer to put, say, the necessary extra 150-180 lb dummies or even sandbags into the vehicle to see exactly what effect all that cargo mass would have on the get-up-and-go necessary to climb an entrance ramp onto a superhighway to merge safely with traffic.
While testing TOWING performance is harder if the test SUV does not have a tow package, towing performance is also critical in a SUV. These vehicles are not meant to be sports cars, so watching the reviewer zoom off at a high speed may be entertaining, but it does not impart that much useful knowledge in the cargo-hauling sense.
The ventilated seats on the elite don't work that well. HUD never had one , I have it now and its no big deal. Info screen could be bigger. Tha accord has a 12 in screen.
I bought a pilot for the reliability and name.
Bro what are you talking about? The Highlander is SIGNIFICANTLY smaller than the Honda Pilot. I mean, ok, point out the incrementally smaller third seat, but you’re getting a ton more space everywhere else.
Grand Highlander
@@bowdenimages1197 yep
@@dwnshfteveryone says that the third row is larger in the GH but what about where it matters, up in the first row? I’ve always found Toyotas to be slightly more cramped than equivalent Hondas
No road test ?
No armrest in the front seat????
I rather have a heads up display than a larger tech screen.
Pushing the screen while driving is extremely dangerous. It takes your attention from the road.
Not Hyundai good???wtf
Cool Honda pilot…
Those are not real exhausts.
It's year 2024 and it still has a timing belt engine.no thanls.
Pathfinder has a V6
Folks
I test drove 5 Honda Pilots and I can tell you, they really are not that impressive. The biggest thing for me was the steering wheel is weird? I feel like I'm rotating the wheel completely just to turn slightly left or right. I ended up buying another SUV but don't get the Honda Pilot. This suv sucks
Your comments don't match other reviews. I have watched a lot on 4th Gen Pilot 2023-2025 the last few years. Steering is not one of the Cons they ever mentioned.
In fact more than a few praise it.
Pilot gets knocks for infotainment screen size. Less tech features than many competitors. Fuel Economy. Not as luxurious as some others. Use of a Timing Belt.
Another review also said Pilot handles better than Korean twins.