Let me tell you this video is pure gold, I like how he shares his experience with the Pilot, I want one in the incoming years, but I dont like to do so many maintainance, so maybe I should think more about getting one, anyways I saw all the video and I feel this is a genuine owner review, so thanks for all the honesty and clear information I really appreciate it.
I own 2017 Pilot. 93000 miles. Has been a good vehicle. Change oil @dealer ($80 full syn) whenever indicated, with tire rotation, MPI. One tire change @66K, replaced with same as OEM. Still on original brakes, but about time (bought replacement pads, still need to install--@~2-3mm, rotors smooth). Did experience the Transmission shutter mentioned--have done Trans fluid flush service twice (about every 35K)--its time for that again. NO MAJOR PROBLEMS. Wife has EXACT same vehicle. 76000 miles. Only issue on hers was had to replace Transmission pressure switch ($375). Same tire replacement timing and she is still on original brakes as well. We have been happy with these vehicles, but looking to trade in for full size truck soon.
Change the timing belt yet?? Not something for a shade tree mechanic! Dealers charge $1500 for changing the timing belt!! Oh, do not get your oil changed at Walmart!
Transmission oil change (drain and fill only) on Honda vehicle is very critical. I owned Civic, Odessey, HR-V and Fit. They are good vehicles. But you have to be on top of maintenance or thing will break down prematurely. Great tips, Mario!
After watching your video, I'm even more convinced we may have got a lemon. Let me tell you about it and maybe you have some advice. 2020 Honda Pilot EX purchased in November 2019, 100k miles. I haven't done most of my maintenance myself but found your channel due to transmission issues going on currently (hard shifts mostly, holding gear for longer, and maybe a little power loss). We have replaced a pressure switch in the transmission at about 50k miles and done all the recalls. The TSB last year for the MOST connectors finally seemed to fix our entertainment system - no complaints since. We're on our second set of brakes on the front and 3rd set on the rear (just had to do those recently about 95k miles.) Our biggest gremlin and ongoing problem is the LIDAR system and functions that use it. Our adaptive cruise control brakes for cars in the lane to the left of us and frequently does not detect cars in our own lane. The car often warns me of a collision (by flashing lights and vibrating the steering wheel) when cars are approaching me on two lane roads (nearly all or driving is on two lane roads.). Dealer says the system is "within spec". Any ideas on how to adjust that?? Would love to see a video on the differential drain and refill. Also your opinion on using another brand of ATF instead of the Honda stuff. Would also love to see the video if you end up doing that timing belt change yourself.
@@alece9697 it’s possible that you might need some additional work. I always used the Honda ATF, but not sure if it’s truly needed. Glad the MOST cables are fixed. It was such a pain for me.
Had a 2017 and 2019 Ridgeline with the same tranny. Drove them both to about 70k and never changed the transmission fluid once nor did I have any issues with it. I have since owned a 2021 and now 2024 which have the 9 spd. No issues or oil change done on my 2021 either.
I have a 2016 pilot and it literally took 15 min to change the trans fluid and no filter to change. Highly recommend changing it yourself and save money
Good video thanks. I have a 2018 Pilot that has been in service 6 times for code p2101 affecting the throttle body and now drive train modules. I am now being told it needs a new transmission at 55K miles. Limp mode 4 times and had I towed to dealer twice. Engaged with Honda America now.
You had a LOT of issues with your car. I'd sell the car if I were you ... immediately. I own both a2016 and a 2017 Pilot and they both run great. I'm just changing the oil every 3-5,000 miles. I've also replaced the tires and brakes on both cars. That's it. Now, I can't STAND the transmission on the 2017. I hate it. the 2016 is "ok", but the transmission isn't the best . Most timing belts easily last to 150,000. Mine broke on my old CRX, but I was at 200,000. I love Hondas. All they do is run :)
2020 pilot touring and driven 94000 miles. I’m the only owner. Those fluid maintenance are pricey. Just done trans fluid drain and fill and brake fluid and it was $500 and $300 respectively. I didn’t have any of those issues you had. I had the infotainment static and popping noise but has been corrected by recall. Next up is the timing belt and spark plug service. Might have to find a local mechanic to do those.
I have a Honda crv 2004, 2L petrol 180,000 miles, no major problems over 5 years, but I have had done reinforced wheel arches, sills, this car is bullet proof, it's towed up mountains, pulled cars from beaches etc etc, travelled all around Europe in it and I live in it 😁🤜🤛respect
Sounds like you had a pretty good vehicle! No CATASTROFIC failures/ major system (engine, trans, axles, radiator etc). Try saying that with a Chrysler or a GM product. If maintainece is all you have to complain about... you're lucky.
Im giving my 2014 Honda Pilot to my son, with 190 thousand miles, with requital maintance done, and now looking for a used Honda Pilot, my mechanic said to avoid the six speed transmission, and look for one with the nine speed.
Thanks for the video. You explained very well. I'm gonna send this to my dad who is dedicated honda fan. He owns two hondas including pilot, and has spent a lot of money for replacing this and that for years. I told him that spending that much of money every year on cars doesn't make good cars. He still thinks they are good cars though. 😂 This video won't change his mind, but still it will give him an idea.
You are crazy if you don’t replace the timing belt if your wife drives the car on the interstate. I don’t want my wife breaking down if I can help it. Plus you destroy the engine if it breaks
I bought a 2013 Touring model with 230K miles. Yeah I know it's high, but the service history is amazing on it. 15 pages of services on Carfax and the same on Honda website. All local Honda dealers. I can verify all the services on Honda website. Nothing was missed and had 2 timing belt and parts changed already. One thing I noticed is the a lot of transmission/trans axle/diff fluid changes at the dealer. I though to myself, maybe the owner was a sucker for the service advisor. But as I get to know more about this I can fully understand. Last change of the trans fluid has been 20K ago from when I bought it. I ordered the DW-1 fluid, 10 Quarts, and will do that myself. I am an advanced DIY. I come to Honda from Toyota, and I have seen Toyotas go150K on original trans fluid, so it is surprising the ridiculous low miles for trans service on this.
Fuel injectors were covered by extended warranty 150,000 miles or ten years. If you did before the warranty, they are to refund that. I have the Ridgeline (2018) and it will probably be my last Honda. Too many problems and maintenance required for a late model vehicle.
Thanks for this review. I did not realize this 2019 Pilot would require such a large amount of maintenance... I have a 14 Accord and haven't had the need to do 1/3 of what this Pilot requires. Maybe I might look somewhere else for a 3-door SUV. I wonder if the 9 Speed Transmission version of the Pilot requires less maintenance?
Hondas 6 speed transmissions are garbage same issue with mdx with 6 speed. Anything older also garbage like 5 speed etc. the 9 speed is made by ZF i believe so its better but has some weird shifts which are normal to the transmission. Other things is Honda’s 6 speed cant be fully drained in one shot not all of it comes out which i hate. You are always mixing old with new fluid.
I have a 2016 pilot with 105,000 mile. Transmission fluid change is a must radio for seri X satellite radio stop working . Honda wanted $2500 to change antenna. I switched to $10 a month and Bluetooth great music again . Have to change timing belt soon. Will used my local garage maybe . The seats are very wrong for my wife and I both over 6’ tail. Drive to Florida each winter 2400 miles
Currently have a 2010 Honda Pilot. Bought it when it was 2 years old from US. Had it maintained in Regina Honda Saskatchewan. For almost a decade. The services cost in the dealership is ridiculous. Thousands dollars per year. They are always finding an issue. Their services doesn't last that long. Trully a money pit. Rear door and passenger door is all rusty. Rear door is very bad now. And then guess what, majority of the 2010ish have bad rusty rear door. The same ridiculous service charges and recommendation when i go to Calgary Honda. Anytime you go to their shop, they fix one things and they discover a lot other issues. I have decided to use a local shop for some services. I am definitely not getting a jonda pilot again.
I have the same issue with my 2019 Pilot transmission and change the transmission fluid every 10-15 thousand miles. Some people have switched to a different fluid and claim that fixed the problem.
The car is a lemon. Have a 2020 EX-L since new. 40k miles and a lot of unnecessary repairs- tail light fail, AC compressor, power seat motor, rear main seal leak, transmission judder, interior components breaking on a sparingly used, well maintained garaged vehicle, not to mention the fluids that need to be changed sooner than the maintenance minder comes on- the trans fluid barely makes it 15-20k miles. Coming from older Hondas and newer Toyotas, this thing is garbage. Definitely my last Honda for sure.
Good video. Thank you for creating it. Currently, I drive a 2015 Cadillac SRX. Looking to buy a brand new Pilot or Toyota Grand Highlander. Do you believe the new Pilots have these issues or has Honda corrected the problems? Thanks.
I owned 3 new Hondas back in the 80-90s. Put a combined total of 200,000+ miles on them and did nothing but change oil every 3000 miles. Quality seems to have gone away or your vehicle is a victim of all the electrical “features” of newer vehicles. I would sell that before you’re forced to replace the transmission.
My dad owns two hondas, civic and pilot. He's spent a lot of money for replacing parts for years just like this guy, but worse since he's not maintaining the cars by himself. This isn't a new car problem. It's been like that all the time.
I have a 2019 Honda Pilot and what I would like to fix is the radio. The FM signal is not good, it gets lost very quickly when I am listening to a radio station.
No modern vehicle should require this level of detailed maintenance to stay reliable. Transmission fluid changes every 15 to 20 thousand miles? I was considering buying a used 2010 but there is no way the previous owners were this meticulous.
Nice video I have a 2018 pilot elite i have problem with the automatic high beam it just kept the light in high most of the time or just lower it when the coming traffic car is about 20 foot, so people always put the high beam on m
I have a 2019 pilot, 140k miles and I just changed the transmission fluid, hopefully it stops the jerking back and forth between the 1st and 2nd gear. I also have an “ All Wheel Drive System Problem” I have no idea what that means, any idea?
seems like your vehicle is a lemon , haven't heard of this transmission fluid problem from other owners . super hard to believe this happens commonly , seem like your vehicle is compromised somehow
I have a 2022 pilot changed the fluid at 25k to 29k as recommended by honda. My transmission was making a whining sound at around 75k had it replaced at 85k
Let me tell you this video is pure gold, I like how he shares his experience with the Pilot, I want one in the incoming years, but I dont like to do so many maintainance, so maybe I should think more about getting one, anyways I saw all the video and I feel this is a genuine owner review, so thanks for all the honesty and clear information I really appreciate it.
@@kenneth2405 thanks for sharing your thoughts.
I own 2017 Pilot. 93000 miles. Has been a good vehicle. Change oil @dealer ($80 full syn) whenever indicated, with tire rotation, MPI. One tire change @66K, replaced with same as OEM. Still on original brakes, but about time (bought replacement pads, still need to install--@~2-3mm, rotors smooth). Did experience the Transmission shutter mentioned--have done Trans fluid flush service twice (about every 35K)--its time for that again. NO MAJOR PROBLEMS. Wife has EXACT same vehicle. 76000 miles. Only issue on hers was had to replace Transmission pressure switch ($375). Same tire replacement timing and she is still on original brakes as well. We have been happy with these vehicles, but looking to trade in for full size truck soon.
Change the timing belt yet?? Not something for a shade tree mechanic! Dealers charge $1500 for changing the timing belt!! Oh, do not get your oil changed at Walmart!
Transmission oil change (drain and fill only) on Honda vehicle is very critical. I owned Civic, Odessey, HR-V and Fit. They are good vehicles. But you have to be on top of maintenance or thing will break down prematurely. Great tips, Mario!
@@MoBangFoYoBucks absolutely true.
After watching your video, I'm even more convinced we may have got a lemon. Let me tell you about it and maybe you have some advice.
2020 Honda Pilot EX purchased in November 2019, 100k miles. I haven't done most of my maintenance myself but found your channel due to transmission issues going on currently (hard shifts mostly, holding gear for longer, and maybe a little power loss).
We have replaced a pressure switch in the transmission at about 50k miles and done all the recalls. The TSB last year for the MOST connectors finally seemed to fix our entertainment system - no complaints since. We're on our second set of brakes on the front and 3rd set on the rear (just had to do those recently about 95k miles.)
Our biggest gremlin and ongoing problem is the LIDAR system and functions that use it. Our adaptive cruise control brakes for cars in the lane to the left of us and frequently does not detect cars in our own lane. The car often warns me of a collision (by flashing lights and vibrating the steering wheel) when cars are approaching me on two lane roads (nearly all or driving is on two lane roads.). Dealer says the system is "within spec". Any ideas on how to adjust that??
Would love to see a video on the differential drain and refill. Also your opinion on using another brand of ATF instead of the Honda stuff. Would also love to see the video if you end up doing that timing belt change yourself.
@@alece9697 it’s possible that you might need some additional work. I always used the Honda ATF, but not sure if it’s truly needed. Glad the MOST cables are fixed. It was such a pain for me.
Had a 2017 and 2019 Ridgeline with the same tranny. Drove them both to about 70k and never changed the transmission fluid once nor did I have any issues with it. I have since owned a 2021 and now 2024 which have the 9 spd. No issues or oil change done on my 2021 either.
I have a 2016 pilot and it literally took 15 min to change the trans fluid and no filter to change. Highly recommend changing it yourself and save money
They do have filters. I change mine when I service, but it's not required
@@NiceGarage it’s a quick job for sure.
Good video thanks. I have a 2018 Pilot that has been in service 6 times for code p2101 affecting the throttle body and now drive train modules. I am now being told it needs a new transmission at 55K miles. Limp mode 4 times and had I towed to dealer twice. Engaged with Honda America now.
You had a LOT of issues with your car. I'd sell the car if I were you ... immediately. I own both a2016 and a 2017 Pilot and they both run great. I'm just changing the oil every 3-5,000 miles. I've also replaced the tires and brakes on both cars. That's it. Now, I can't STAND the transmission on the 2017. I hate it. the 2016 is "ok", but the transmission isn't the best . Most timing belts easily last to 150,000. Mine broke on my old CRX, but I was at 200,000. I love Hondas. All they do is run :)
2020 pilot touring and driven 94000 miles. I’m the only owner. Those fluid maintenance are pricey. Just done trans fluid drain and fill and brake fluid and it was $500 and $300 respectively. I didn’t have any of those issues you had. I had the infotainment static and popping noise but has been corrected by recall. Next up is the timing belt and spark plug service. Might have to find a local mechanic to do those.
I have a Honda crv 2004, 2L petrol 180,000 miles, no major problems over 5 years, but I have had done reinforced wheel arches, sills, this car is bullet proof, it's towed up mountains, pulled cars from beaches etc etc, travelled all around Europe in it and I live in it 😁🤜🤛respect
@@Travelling-Tim from an era of dependable Hondas. Nice.
Sounds like you had a pretty good vehicle! No CATASTROFIC failures/ major system (engine, trans, axles, radiator etc). Try saying that with a Chrysler or a GM product. If maintainece is all you have to complain about... you're lucky.
@@Ram14250 excellent perspective. Never been stranded. The fuel injectors were frustrating, but it kept running.
Im giving my 2014 Honda Pilot to my son, with 190 thousand miles, with requital maintance done, and now looking for a used Honda Pilot, my mechanic said to avoid the six speed transmission, and look for one with the nine speed.
Thanks for the video. You explained very well. I'm gonna send this to my dad who is dedicated honda fan. He owns two hondas including pilot, and has spent a lot of money for replacing this and that for years. I told him that spending that much of money every year on cars doesn't make good cars. He still thinks they are good cars though. 😂 This video won't change his mind, but still it will give him an idea.
You are crazy if you don’t replace the timing belt if your wife drives the car on the interstate. I don’t want my wife breaking down if I can help it. Plus you destroy the engine if it breaks
I think If you change the transmission fluid the 3x to get it to 97% you should be good.
Chains don't last forever either. My 2021 EX-L has been great. Mine has the ZF 9-speed transmission which is a much better transmission.
I bought a 2013 Touring model with 230K miles. Yeah I know it's high, but the service history is amazing on it. 15 pages of services on Carfax and the same on Honda website. All local Honda dealers. I can verify all the services on Honda website. Nothing was missed and had 2 timing belt and parts changed already. One thing I noticed is the a lot of transmission/trans axle/diff fluid changes at the dealer. I though to myself, maybe the owner was a sucker for the service advisor. But as I get to know more about this I can fully understand. Last change of the trans fluid has been 20K ago from when I bought it. I ordered the DW-1 fluid, 10 Quarts, and will do that myself. I am an advanced DIY. I come to Honda from Toyota, and I have seen Toyotas go150K on original trans fluid, so it is surprising the ridiculous low miles for trans service on this.
Fuel injectors were covered by extended warranty 150,000 miles or ten years. If you did before the warranty, they are to refund that.
I have the Ridgeline (2018) and it will probably be my last Honda. Too many problems and maintenance required for a late model vehicle.
Thanks for this review. I did not realize this 2019 Pilot would require such a large amount of maintenance... I have a 14 Accord and haven't had the need to do 1/3 of what this Pilot requires. Maybe I might look somewhere else for a 3-door SUV. I wonder if the 9 Speed Transmission version of the Pilot requires less maintenance?
Hondas 6 speed transmissions are garbage same issue with mdx with 6 speed. Anything older also garbage like 5 speed etc. the 9 speed is made by ZF i believe so its better but has some weird shifts which are normal to the transmission. Other things is Honda’s 6 speed cant be fully drained in one shot not all of it comes out which i hate. You are always mixing old with new fluid.
I have a 2016 pilot with 105,000 mile. Transmission fluid change is a must radio for seri X satellite radio stop working . Honda wanted $2500 to change antenna. I switched to $10 a month and Bluetooth great music again . Have to change timing belt soon. Will used my local garage maybe . The seats are very wrong for my wife and I both over 6’ tail. Drive to Florida each winter 2400 miles
Currently have a 2010 Honda Pilot. Bought it when it was 2 years old from US. Had it maintained in Regina Honda Saskatchewan. For almost a decade. The services cost in the dealership is ridiculous. Thousands dollars per year. They are always finding an issue. Their services doesn't last that long. Trully a money pit. Rear door and passenger door is all rusty. Rear door is very bad now. And then guess what, majority of the 2010ish have bad rusty rear door. The same ridiculous service charges and recommendation when i go to Calgary Honda. Anytime you go to their shop, they fix one things and they discover a lot other issues. I have decided to use a local shop for some services. I am definitely not getting a jonda pilot again.
You are very good at explaining all the issues with the Pilot. Nicely done.
I have the same issue with my 2019 Pilot transmission and change the transmission fluid every 10-15 thousand miles. Some people have switched to a different fluid and claim that fixed the problem.
I have the same year and model. So far one tail light and the visors have gone bad at approximately 70k
Great video. I like the roof rack you have there, what's the part number if you don't mind, thanks.
The car is a lemon. Have a 2020 EX-L since new. 40k miles and a lot of unnecessary repairs- tail light fail, AC compressor, power seat motor, rear main seal leak, transmission judder, interior components breaking on a sparingly used, well maintained garaged vehicle, not to mention the fluids that need to be changed sooner than the maintenance minder comes on- the trans fluid barely makes it 15-20k miles. Coming from older Hondas and newer Toyotas, this thing is garbage. Definitely my last Honda for sure.
Bye Felicia
Honda actually has come up with a fix for the infotainment system. Did you have the recall done?
Good video. Thank you for creating it. Currently, I drive a 2015 Cadillac SRX. Looking to buy a brand new Pilot or Toyota Grand Highlander. Do you believe the new Pilots have these issues or has Honda corrected the problems? Thanks.
I'm glad I have watched your experience with this car. I was shopping for passport, pilot or a ridgeline. Not any longer.
Same here. I’ve always wanted a Pilot. I’m bummed….☹️
I owned 3 new Hondas back in the 80-90s. Put a combined total of 200,000+ miles on them and did nothing but change oil every 3000 miles. Quality seems to have gone away or your vehicle is a victim of all the electrical “features” of newer vehicles. I would sell that before you’re forced to replace the transmission.
My dad owns two hondas, civic and pilot. He's spent a lot of money for replacing parts for years just like this guy, but worse since he's not maintaining the cars by himself. This isn't a new car problem. It's been like that all the time.
Don’t forget to change your timing belt tensioner, with all the above you listed
I have a 2019 Honda Pilot and what I would like to fix is the radio. The FM signal is not good, it gets lost very quickly when I am listening to a radio station.
No modern vehicle should require this level of detailed maintenance to stay reliable. Transmission fluid changes every 15 to 20 thousand miles? I was considering buying a used 2010 but there is no way the previous owners were this meticulous.
was thinking about a 2020 ?
Nice video I have a 2018 pilot elite i have problem with the automatic high beam it just kept the light in high most of the time or just lower it when the coming traffic car is about 20 foot, so people always put the high beam on m
Those lights can be annoying for sure.
Try maxlife atf, it might go longer.
This is an absurd amount of maintenance for a modern vehicle right? Especially on a Japanese vehicle.
The Honda Pilot is made in the US.
@@AgentGrand12 fyi when someone says a country before the word vehicle they mean a Japanese car company…. Dense
@@Luciferisking512 whatever makes you feel better....Dense 😂
@@AgentGrand12 says the guy trying to make up his own meanings for common used language
Designed and built in the US
What trim level is that? What transmission?
Check your thermostat first
I have a 2019 pilot, 140k miles and I just changed the transmission fluid, hopefully it stops the jerking back and forth between the 1st and 2nd gear. I also have an “ All Wheel Drive System Problem” I have no idea what that means, any idea?
@@oliedumszthem it might just need a new sensor in the rear differential. Have you ever changed the rear differential fluid?
Coolant?
How are you driving backwards green screen?
That 100k is looking great!!
Thanks! Turned over about a week ago, and the plaque is on the way. No checkmark yet though.
@@AdventureGearTV you'll get there!
@@AdventureGearTV Plaque?
.I was looking for one ..not any more 😮 ,,after watching your video 😮😅 but not all vehicles are the same 😮
My 2007 Honda pilot has been super reliable, I do all the maintenance my self. For the timeline belt job you need OEM parts or the Aisin kit.
You just have a bad transmission
seems like your vehicle is a lemon , haven't heard of this transmission fluid problem from other owners . super hard to believe this happens commonly , seem like your vehicle is compromised somehow
I have a 2020 Honda pilot and yes I have the same transmission shutters 😡. Honda has to do better with the transmission
Common knowledge that the 6 speed tranmission on these needs the fluid changed more often, check out Piloteers forum.
@@jonathanpimentel177 2021 switched to the 9 speed transmission, even the lowly Pilot LX has a 9 speed.
I have a 2022 pilot changed the fluid at 25k to 29k as recommended by honda. My transmission was making a whining sound at around 75k had it replaced at 85k
2019 is an new earthdream timing chain engine.
Sorry but it still has a timing belt, not a chain.
2019's have belts only no chain...
I paid $750 for water pump timing belt Asin parts and labor at a local ase certified mechanic. So shop around. I
@@johnmountain4994 not bad.
Needs a torque converter
@@Whitehatch_Checo seems like it.