Totally Not Mark *It's fun when Super referenced the Abridged. They referenced Popo with the whole "banned thing" with Vegeta and the HTC. They even zoomed in on the eyes. They referenced Ghost Nappa. And having Kami and Nail talk to Piccolo during the ToP is a stretch, but still.*
"Kami I need you to tell me I can leave the lookout if I want to." Kami:"Mr. Popo you can leave the lookout if you wa-" *BITCH DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO!!!* ...all these squares make a circle
One of the not-funny parts, but I really like when Vegeta insults Future Trunks and Piccolo looks down at Gohan and says, "Gohan, you're a good kid." So simple, but so meaningful.
Dani Erdman Random? Piccolo sees the destructive nature of a father demeaning [edit]*his son* and chooses to use that moment to make a point of being kind to Gohan as his, despite how hard, father figure. You can be a hard father, without being a fuck and this moment really illustrates that distinction.
If you watch it again you’ll see the joke was a call back. They mention how Yamcha kills himself in the future, and goku reassures him that he’s not alone. Then Vegeta says something about “not talking to bastards” and Piccolo reassures him. Not entirely random 😁
my fav moment of DBZA is the fact that Perfect Cell and Yamcha are basically buddies, Yamcha is underappreciated in the series in general, the fact that Cell appreciates Yamcha is amazing! PERFECT CELL: Perfect. And Yamcha! What a surprise! How's it going man? YAMCHA: Oh! Uh, good. I brought towels and water bottles. PERFECT CELL: And like that, you've already contributed more than Vegeta.
@@rath3074 i already imagine Cell listing through the Z Fighters to look for some good quality food to gain more power in case for defeating Trunks, and seeing: "Krillin: got killed by Android 17" -Well, not so surprising "Tien: Killed by Android 18" -Now it's a tie again "Yamcha: suic!de" -Woah, that is unexpected. Well, Yamcha finally got more kills here, than everyone else. And... that's even more depressing... I'll need tocheer him up a little in the past, maybe, then he will make a good meal in the future, which for me will be the past, or, like, my present now, but in this moment, but for future me it will be the past, and... Ugh, dang it! I'll just sneak up on Trunks, while he is distracted.
The strongest character in the series at that moment and basically the weakest one having that convo is just so good. You'd never get a wholesome screwball to the face like that in the original.
My favorite thing about the Change to 16 backstory is that when they play the video he says the date is May 12th which means that Gero attacked with 19 on the anniversary of his sons death which is such an overlooked added piece of depth that DBZA created that I never see anyone mention.
SuperKamiGuru 62 it’s an oldish movie called Se7en in one of the scenes the guy is asking what’s in the box and one of the lines of that seen is “if you kill him, he will win” it’s worded differently on abridged but I’m positive that it was a reference to that move
"Now if you will excuse me, I will eliminate Cell." "I thought you were only programmed to kill Goku?" "This 'Cell' is comprised of 10.78% of Son Goku's DNA. These parameters... *are acceptable.* "
Zombiewithabowtie this might actually be my favorite DBZA line. Possible competitor is when Tien says “Enough! I am not a spectator, I AM A WARRIOR!” I always loved Tien as a kid and wished he had more cool moments.
@@dylankornberg4892 I can never read that guy. I know, right? TFS have a lot of talent with their writing, but they really show it off with the stuff they did for 16. P.S. My favourite line for Tein is probably the one to Android 18; "YOU!! Blow yourself up or leave!! I don't care which!!"
Something else about the Androids I love that TFS did is actually GIVE them a true brother and sister relationship. Just hearing their dialogue they have with each other is great.
they where empty as hell in original DBZ, they where kinda weird, like, their first apearence was killing Gero refusing to follow his orders but then for some whatever reason they just decide to go Kill Goku anyways. they barely had any dialogue, they joke a little bit about how stronger they are compared to the heroes and thats it. Thats why it was freaking weird when 17 ruled the ToP in DBS and sudenly lots of people started saiyng 17 was their favorite character from DBZ, like, the hell he was, nobody cared about 17 in dbz, 18 had a little more on her side cuz of the relationship with Krilin but 17 basicaly just existed so that Cell could get a second form for Vegeta to Shine a little.
Yajirobe before TFS: Oh yea he's the guy who cuts off Vegeta's tail and gives you Senzu beans in the Legacy of Goku games Yajirobe after TFS: Beandaddy
My favorite DBZA lines of them all: Krillin: "I was on Namek, shit got real. I got stabbed, and blown up!" Yamcha: "I was stabbed and blown up too. And dumped by the only girl I ever had!" Krillin: "Same. But you know the difference? When mine left she took all my money. When yours left, she took all *HER* money." Yamcha: ".........." Master Roshi: "....Gonna need a senzu for that one." They should have dropped one off the Krillin owned counter for that.
Can we appriciate for a moment that the androids were built by someone Bulma described as "adequate with robotics" and the implications of that if she was serious
"Terrorists, no androids, terroroids, Guy's we've got a bad case of terroroids!" Goku " Am I in hell? Why am I in a bed? You'd think hell would have beds made out of spikes, or spiders, or spikey spiders, spikers!" Bardock
@@awarmmilkandcookies In the manga 17 and 18 were cyborgs but 16 was an android, purely mechanical, which is why Cell couldn't absorb any energy from him. Did TFS give an explanation for it not working after they did make 16 a cyborg?
@@Azadi188 Yes. Cell: "Now you'll be a part of me" *fails to suck* "Of me" *fails again* of "Me" *fails again* "God, what are you made of? Pure metal?" Android 16: "Affirmative. I am ANDROID 16" Cell: "Mistakes were made"
Tien pointing out bullshit that was happening in the series was one of my favorites especially when he got so fed up with power gap and attacked cell to prove a point basically and said "fuck power levels" then went on to actually stop semi perfect cell for a short time
"The orange hillbilly beats his kid and wife" I loved how they portrayed the outsiders perspective to the insanity of the maincast. While the original showed perplexed faces, tfs showed dialogue, misunderstandings and even chichi fainting from the shock when seeing it on tv. Ingenius
Wait, I just remembered, before those misunderstandings happened, Cell had a 60 Minutes part where he told all of DBZ lore about Goku. Did nobody watch the interview? I know Mr. Perfect Cell killed the interviewer at the end, but wasn't it being broadcasted?
Worst part is that's not even the worst of it. They regularly chill with God, one of them is the reincarnation of a dude who called himself a demon king, Goku knows devilman, pretty sure God was gone for like over a week, and out of everyone in Goku's group only Yamcha, Krillin, and Gohan haven't tried to kill or seriously injure Goku
@@therighteously8454 yamcha and krillin both tried to kill/seriously injure goku. Yamcha tried to injure goku and rob him during their first encounter and after he got beaten snuck to gokus and bulmas house to rob and kill him while he was asleep. Krillin tried to kill/seriously injure goku when they were both competing to get the only apprentice spot under Master Roshi (which turned out to be a test from Master Roshi). Krillin cut the ropes off a bridge in order for goku to fall to his death/seriously injure himself to be the first to finish Roshis task and get the apprentice spot
Semi-Perfect Cell: How? How did you get so strong? Vegeta: I trained all day yesterday. Semi-Perfect Cell: Oh, you think you're being cute. Vegeta: Bitch, I'm Adorable!
rejczz to be fair it’s an F. To be honest though they don’t get paid and can actually lose money by being sued for doing this, soooo I guess the C- is appropriate.
The lines from Vegeta are so damn good: "Huh. That's a new feeling; pride in someone else. Unfortunately, it's overSHADOWED BY ALL THIS UNYIELDING RAGE!" Vegeta is fucking perfect. And they didn't even change him up all that much! It's just so spot on. Goku and Gohan's dynamic. I like that Goku is the exaggerated absentee father, and that Gohan actually has some trauma from it all.
*Look at your men. Now back to me. Now look back at your men. Back to me. I am not your men. I'm flipping you off (middle finger). Now look at the ground. Back to me. Where's the dragon ball? It's gone.* And *Didn't Frieza blow you up? tHeN U shOuLD REaLly wAtCh OuT foR tHaT!! That's you!* My favorite parts of the entire DBZA including the one line from broly movie. *Speak louder boy I can't hear you down here!* This and Tien's hate boner for him is just hilarious!
I like how they made a point of "deconstructing" Goku's Idiot Hero character. It's definitely exaggerated, but you can't forget he did so many incredibly stupid things in canon (like, well, giving Cell a FRICKING Senzu Bean). This also allows the other characters (like Gohan) to be played as aware of the fact that Goku's an idiot. A well-intentioned incredibly strong one, but an idiot nonetheless.
I think Piccolo and Kami's interaction on the lookout deserves an honorable mention. Kami, feeling bitter about being one with Piccolo, knowing his body would be just another prison, and that whole situation was handled much better with TFS than it was by Funimation. When TFS wants to write serious, they really do a damn good job of it.
@@LazyLoonz Well, DBZ A made me interested again in DB products, but whatever makes you happy buddy. I won't waste time arguing what makes a fan or not rofl
@@ShwappaJ That's what he said in Kai. It was a good line and conveys Cell's demented nature well, but I gotta say, the TFS line is pretty damn cold and played much more seriously.
@@darthyamideathbringer yeah but 'enough' works so well because it ties into what Cells side quest had been before finding them.. which was to get just strong enough to be able to go and face them again.. he's basically letting piccolo know he's has enough stolen energy to beat them
their 'exchange' (while Vegeta was destroying himself at 300X Gravity) was all they needed, AND it was more than the Original Dubs ever gave...just a simple 'fuck you...!' "Fuck YOU!!" '...my room, five minutes?'
They also fixed a number of plot holes in the original. Why can't Piccolo, Tien, Chiaotzu, or Yamcha use the Kaioken or the Spirit Bomb? Because they pissed off King Kai and he refused to teach them. Why does no one else ever learn instant transmission? Goku didn't learn it; he got it from eating sick aliens. The others don't have a bunch of sick aliens to eat. Why not wish back King Kai? Yamcha goofed when phrasing the wish. How did Trunks survive 18's blast, despite taking a huge blast at point-blank range and being too weak to stand? 17 got in the way. Why didn't Mr. Popo transport Goku straight to the Saiyans? He was makin' toast. I also feel like they humanized (saiyan-ized?) Vegeta a bit more by giving him his own sarcastic tender side. Him flipping off Trunks was genuinely heart-warming to watch.
@@greg77389 I disagree. I think he's a good writer, but his memory is terrible. The guy doesn't do well with following rules, but I think he understands characters and motivations pretty well.
Cell: I'm impressed behind all that angst and ridiculous hair, there's a real fighter. Trunks: And behind that insufferable smarm is a dead man! Cell: Trunks, you couldn't fathom the amount of dead men behind me. *Chills every time.*
A20: "19! Dodge!" A19: " *Beginning dodge protocol* " Get's hit anyway A20: "Why is dodging a subroutine?! It's not that complex!" Piccolo glares at Gohan Gohan: "What? ... What?!"
Counterpoint: During the fight between Piccolo and 17 A16: Dodge! A17: Dodge wha-? 17 gets hit by Piccolo and stumbles back. A17: You know 16, yelling 'Dodge!' is more distracting than helpful!
@@meatsauce3751 Not from our perspective, but it would be a bitch to explain how you actually died on a planet light years away from our solar system and somehow managed to get back to earth alive and well.
Meat Sauce well he took out a life insurance policy on himself before they went to namek and had them send the money to his “twin brother” knowing that if he died he would just be wished back and could pretend to be his brother. So since he technically faked his death it could be counted as insurance fraud
fact that that came full circle when the cell games started and cell greeted everyonbe then he came to tien and you could here the distain in his voice when he said tenshinhan with tien responding smugly kikohowyadoing.
The scene I liked way more in Abridged was when Gohan turned his rage on against Cell. He didn't become Goku Jr. He was still nerdy, but cool as fuck in his own way.
never liked dbza Gohan. Not only because he isn't funny, but because I find him boring too. In the original series I really saw gohan as a character. Because in my opinion, we can feel more emotions coming from the characters like sadness, anger, melancholy. Much of this is lost in dbza by treating everything as a joke. In conclusion, I still prefer Gohan turning ssj2 against cell in the original series, With the original soudtrack it gets even better.
@@ElissonDSouza I know you did not just say the English dub theme for Gohan's SSJ2 transformation is better than spirit vs spirit from the sub. That has to be a sin.
@@timmybear5284 I forgot about what he had said since this was a month ago and now I am just as enraged as I was before, like holy shit how can someone think the dub OST for Gohan's transformation is better than the sub's
I actually loved the change to Vegeta during the finale. The whole world kinda dropping away while he was at a loss for words looking at his dead son was far more impactful than the inner dialogue about how cell crossed a line to harmed his pride by killing his son that we did get. The “MY BABY BOY!” still hits deep.
Gero's son didn't became an android. 16 was modeled after him, with a simulation of his personality ( like loving birds ). DBZA makes the distinction between androids and cyborgs. For him to be his actual son, it would make him a cyborg, but he's : pure metal
@@shockwavesyndrome6433 Stealing implies that they are taking it and saying "Look at my animation" (Like mastar media) They give the proper credits to everyone who was involved with the old show (The studios not the actual people) Now dubbing over it would just be the tfs voicew with the same exact lines in the show. They have made the show into something else while also fixing plot holes. Please know about something before you screech.
A Nappy Headed Hooligan sure kid and if all of that's true then tell me, if it's fair use and not copied then why can't they put ads on the videos? Why must there be an entire minute long start up talking about how it's not theirs and they don't make money off of it because they literally take the entire show and dub over it? Notice how honest trailers can put ads on their videos because they take clips and comment it's fair use for them but why not for tfs? Maybe before you screech you should know what you are talking about
In the DBZA coolers revenge movie: Goku: *revives bird* " I'm gonna name you toriyama. Go and tame a dinosaur and teach it how to ride a ball." DBZA: Android 16: "what's you're name birdie?" Bird: "tweet" Android 16: "Toriyama?!?!" Bird: "tweet" Android 16: "Sure I would love to see your dinosaur." Bird: "tweet" Android 16: "IT DOES WHAT?!?!?!?!?"
All of which are references to Toriyama himself and the lyrics to Cha-La Head-Cha-La. I'm glad somebody else caught that connection, I remember laughing my ass off watching 16's reaction.
Imagine if they did the Buu saga. We could have the same gag where Goku needs to charge the spirit bomb, and he would ask Vegeta to stall Kid Buu. "And considering how much I struggled in the ssj3 form.... I'm sure you can handle it"
The Spirit Bomb is the least reliable technique in the series. It doesn't take out Vegeta (and it hits Gohan during that fight, who just kinda bounces it back). It doesn't take out Frieza. It implodes when Goku tries it on Android 13. Future Trunks finally makes it work by using it as a sword instead of a blast. Not only does it not work on Jiren, when it hits Goku it actually makes him stronger. Also it finally took out Buu. Not a great track record though.
@@TactfulWaggle oh god, NOOOOO REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, DONT DO THAT POPO, PLEASE I HAVE YOUR MONEY NOOOO, POPO PLEASE I KNOW THE PECKING ORDER, NOOOO
That's pretty ironic. TFS kind of started off all the Yamcha memes and hate. I really liked Yamcha before TFS, after watching DB when I was much younger.
@@Sunaki1000 I really didn't care all that much about the cell saga. It had it moments but, it doesn't compare to most of the tournament saga to the buu saga. That season introduced more characters and development especially for Vegeta. I also mainly grew up on that saga more when I was younger.
@@n.m.4138 The two tornaments of this Ark are a big fakeout, but I like the Story between Cell and Buu. It was nice little Charakterfokused Comedy. Not many high stakes, but harmless.
Sternia Hoenheim That’s great and all but you’re assuming people saw/read/know about original DB. There are people TO THIS DAY who think Pilaf Gang, more specifically Mai, because she’s the only one with relevance now, was first introduced in DBS. There are people who don’t know that Demon King Piccolo was a thing or than Shenron straight up died and had to be glued back together. People usually just watched Z and moved on with the series. I bet there are a whole damn lot of people who don’t know Tien and Yamcha both beat Goku in one on one fights either
It's absolutely the kind of thing we'd think of Freeza doing. It's utterly demeaning to everyone else and shows how he considers them nothing but props for his amusement.
There's one small exchange between the androids that I think sums up what I love about the changes TFS made to them: "Rocket Punch!" _"Wow, really?"_ _"THAT IS SO COOL!"_
I'm surprised you didn't talk more about Android 16. He became so badass and so wholesome at the same time. His love for birds, his fight with Imperfect Cell (especially his lines), his final message to Gohan before dying, it's all great and makes me love the character more. And he probably has the best one liners in the whole series.
Great parody is an act of love. It's from people who know and love the source, but can still recognize the sillier aspects and plot wholes. The parody emphasizes this while still maintaining the great parts of the original. It's why Star Trek fans love Galaxy Quest. It even went the extra yard in turning everything they made fun of around into an awesome moment later.
I agree. While the Ocean to OG Funimation Dub is my favorite version of DBZ, DBZA is still fucking hilarious and well written at times. IMHO Early episodes haven't aged that well but they started some great gags in the series so fuck it but once we get to the second half of Namek, we get stronger character moments, Nail being part of the series and improving Piccolo, Krillin and 18, Vegeta, Tien and Yamcha along with other side characters getting more love and character respectively, list goes on. I may not follow the canon of the series over the official one but there are parts of it I wish made it into the official material along with stuff mentioned in interviews like the Androids.
He didn't, and I'd welcome people to actually know think this. He just did what Freeza would've sounded like in a proper English dub, because in the original Japanese, Freeza always sounded sophisticated. It is something that Abridged merely emulated and hence, so did the English dubs made after. It is rather telling that a freaking *parody* needed to be made so the English dub actually gets Freeza right!
DBZA is the effect of having what in italy we call "the sense of after". After you do or perceive a thing and start thinking deeply about it, you can see how things turned out and how it could have been done better, beyond personal tastes, while in development you either consciously or not made decisions that cut off or clobbered some things. And thing is, it's extremely hard for companies to do it even while realizing it, since they all have an host of bindings they have to respect, but fanbases do not - while having their own issues by themselves. DBZA it's indeed a very good thing.
Confermo...conoscendo una cosa e vedendola per come è cominci a pensare “come avrei proceduto io?” ed Abridged è letteralmente la creazione di questi ragazzi, un gruppo che ha voluto riscrivere dragon ball per renderlo meno da bambini e più da adulti. Questo perché un ragazzino si fermerebbe all’ilarità di, non so, Krilin che si masturba nella grotta per Bulma, o goku che sforna muffin sulla nave di Frieza, ma l’adulto vede le cose più profonde e apprezza la qualità del loro lavoro, perché Abridged è un piccolo capolavoro. Ad esempio io ho riflettuto molto nella scena dove Piccolo fa quel discorso a goku, chiedendogli “hai mai chiesto a tuo figlio, almeno una volta, cosa gli piace e cosa no?” E goku dice “ma lui ha passato un anno con me nella stanza dello spirito e del tempo, credevo gli piacesse” e piccolo gli fa giustamente notare che Gohan non lo ha fatto per allenarsi ma per trascorrere tempo con lui, suo padre, che ha passato metà del tempo morto e l’altra metà ad allenarsi da solo, e a volte entrambe le cose contemporaneamente (bellissima anche questa precisazione dell’entrambe le cose)...per un uomo che ha vissuto col padre spesso assente per lavoro, lontano come rapporto o del tutto assente (morto o cose simili) quella scena ha un peso notevole. Ammetto di essermi sentito sinceramente male per gohan in quel momento
Before Dragon Ball Z abridged, I couldn't even be bothered to give a damn about characters like Nappa. In fact, as a kid I even though Nappa and Recoome were the same guy for some reason. Then came DBZA and changed _everything_ *Nappa:* "I am hilarious and you will quote everything I say"
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Recoome: ‘‘The name's... Recoome! It rhymes... with doom! And you're gonna be hurtin', ALL. TOO. SOOOOOOOOOOO-nuh!’’
@@scarybusey Vegeta: Did... did you just talk out your ass? Cell: Well, to be fair Vegeta, you are part of my DNA Vegeta: Ooh, that's the closest thing you've done to damage since I've gotten here
@@VampireObssessed Vegeta: "What the hell am I sensing? Is that the Namekian!!!?? Is that me!!!??? Is that me stronger than me!!!!!???? I'LL FUCKIN KILL ME!!!!!
No, no they didn´t. I have read it on the wiki but can´t find the source of the story how Dr. Geros son died. The only thing i found out now is that in one way or another Android 21 (from a DBZ game) is Android 16´s mom.
I think TFS did an amazing job with Cell himself, the way he acts, certain remarks he makes like telling Trunks that he's already killed him in another timeline and saying that 16 didn't have a soul was brilliant.
Not to mention the subtle point of 18 saying "there's a 'soulless' joke somewhere in there, but that's beneath me" about android 16 being a ginger. Then, later on, Cell makes that exact joke, saying "we both know he never had a soul!" after killing android 16. The joke WAS beneath android 18 since she's more humane, but it wasnt beneath the heartless asshole that Cell was.
I loved the PERFECT song he did, while goofy it was also menacing in a way how he was singing about the genocide he'll commit while everyone there was just shaking
It may not fit into the original series but my favorite TFS change is the back and forth between Vegeta and Gohan on namek. The "thwartin my plans" little skit is gold in my books
X Just Goku X Piccolo: You know how I use the Special Beam Cannon with one hand, what if I used two hands instead. Nail: Kinda like the Kamehameha? Piccolo: No, not like the Kamehameha. The Kamehameha doesn’t drill things. Kame: Neither does a cannon Piccolo: That’s what makes it special
Frieza (made funnier but definitely still sadistic), Nappa (sure goofy but way more relevant than just being a mucsle head), Piccolo (with his internal dialogs and more down to earth demeanor), and Tien (made a very real character, and out-right points out what he thinks of others) are the characters best changed and still themselves made by team four star. Also I really just love the scene where Gohan turns SSJ2 and when Goku tries to get him to stop torturing Cell Gohan just throws all of Goku's dumb choices right back at him. That dialog right there should have been in the actual series.
Honestly, I don't think there's a single character where they made them worse: they only ever improved them somehow. And that's an amazing achievement given how iconic and well-developed some of the original characters were.
@@leerobbo92 "how iconic and well-developed some of the original characters were" Toriyama: *spits out drink and laughs in every character that isn't Goku*
the best change that TFS made that you didnt mention was Kami fusing with Piccolo and the weight that it held. Kami's reluctance in the original material seemed to be out of his worry about cell, but TFS made it into a sorrow over losing all of his own free will and the fact he had to rejoin with what was an evil side of himself.
Goku's pep talk with Gohan during the final Kamehameha is criminally underrated. It's written like a joke, but the things he says to Gohan are SO beautiful. Especially: "You are more than just my son. You are Son Gohan." That line has so, SO much meaning behind it I could be here all day talking about it. It doesn't look like it, but it's *powerful.* It's so beautiful I cry just thinking about it.
It’s not just giving Nail and Kami more time around because they’re developed. It’s the fact that they even are developed. Nail had practically zero personality in Z and the fact that he’s interesting at all in DBZA is a huge accomplishment.
Yeah, he went from a generic honorable personality to a 'My asshole elder sent me to my death, so I might as well stick with you.' Which I prefer this better
Absolutely. He's kind of like that dick headed roommate you get annoyed with sometimes, but he actually helps pay rent and it's a good time to just shoot the shit with them.
Kami too, his "just another prison" speech before fusing was an amazing addition to a character that hadn't really been developed outside of the 23rd World Tournament arc
One of my favorite changes has to be Android 16's speech to Gohan. THE DBZA version completely flipped the script, becoming a statement to man up from a fellow gentle soul that really helped to highlight both the weight of Gohan's responsibilities in fighting Cell and the consequences of not trying. It just made so much more sense to me than the canon version.
honestly, i feel like DBZA actually transcended beyond parody shortly after they finished the Saiyan Saga and their production quality ramped up dramatically. I see DBZA as more of a retelling of sorts. A parody makes fun of source material, and while DBZA does that a lot, it also does an equal amount of updates, corrections and vast improvements in areas where the original just doesn't hold up, which puts it squarely in the corner of "improved retelling" or even "a reboot" of sorts. While the original Dragon Ball anime will always have a spot in my heart, I enjoy DBZA more because in many respects, it is just better. It's more entertaining, more accessable to a casual audience, it has better writing, more developed characters, plotlines, better worldbuilding. It also adds numerous little things that weren't available in the original that just enrich the experience even more. I've reintroduced countless friends to Dragon Ball again, after not being able to enjoy the original as an adult, with DBZA and they fuckin loved it. I think that says something. When a parody has to ability to rekindle love for something you liked as a kid, as well as act as a genuine replacement for the show for a lot of people, you go well beyond "just another parody". Side Note: I introduced my girlfriend to Dragon Ball with DBZA without her having any prior knowledge of the original shows. DBZA is what she thinks Dragon Ball actually is and I love it.
or its just comedy that people who hate on dragonball like seeing cause they don't have time to watch the actual show..while fans can laugh at too and nostalgic fans can rewatch some scenes they remember in a new way..everyone wins....the actual dragonball series even gt and super aren't that bad...their actually good..the toriyama hate needs to stop..he wrote a fun adventure story about a kid turning into a man but is part alien that became a martial arts story that became a save the world superhero story yet still remained focused on this kid and his progression to his heritage...not sure why so many feel the need to nitpick it when its made for kids...have they seen some of the arcs..their amazing...people act like now its simple but for its time it wasn't...its not as formulaic as people claim either..stuff does happen and other characters matter...an important scene people tend to not mention in the series is krillin breaking the controller...or tien holding back cell..these are scenes that aren't needed yet are there to give relevance to them..18 kissing krillin comes out of nowhere...krillin not stepping in since he knows in the future he dies to them is even more in character than out since he is rational and while brave isn't stupid...hes like you know what they didn't kill anyone and they just want to go after goku so im gonna let them after telling them not to..
my favorite line from dbza is without question the little exchange trunks and perfect cell have while they're fighting. "And behind all that insufferable smarm is a dead man!" "Trunks, you can't fathom the amount of dead men behind me." My jaw literally dropped. to this day i still think episode 53 is one of the best ones they ever did, including the finale.
@@logan6034 I think it's a funny way to highlight the fact that it was never shown or explicitly said that Goku even knew what the transformation does outside the power boost before coming back to Earth. It relates to the video by being another change. A small one, but a change still.
Goku:what about me? Trunks: You dont make it to the battle either, you die of heart failure the year before. Goku: What? How? Trunks: According to the Coroner, too much bacon. *Goku turns Super Sayian* "You take that back!" 😂😂😂😂😂 Crack up EVERYTIME.
"Vegeta what does the scouter say about his power level?" "Its...its...1006" "1006?" "Wait Nappa i had the scouter up side down his power level is actually... 9001... Rar *Breaks scouter"
My favorite change was that they made the most serious speeches better than the original show and since they were put into a comedic version of the show they carried mkre weight and the words hit a little harder
Yeah alot of the emotional bits were better. I was never as pumped for a next episode as when goku reaches namek in dbz abridged. The next time on dbz thing just isnt as good
TFS is the only team that does it well, everyone else are just swearing unnecessarily with bad voice acting. It's like TFS is George Miller, and every other Abridged teams are Michael Bay.
I think BlazingAzureCrow does pretty well with their stuff. Their Digimon Tri Abridged series, I enjoy it almost as much as I enjoy DBZA. And Unlimited Blade Works Abridged was also good.
SWE (Something Witty Entertainment) and TFS are hands down the two best groups out there who do abridges as they handle their shows like they are actual shows (now sure there are probably other good groups out there and TFS and SWE are not the only ones but they are 2 of the best and most well known.
Are they really? I mean, they kinda fit into the canon timeline better, but not perfectly. -Dead Zone is a story within the story, so it's okay that it doesn't match. -World's Strongest doesn't really fit, as it has Goku with Kaoi-ken. This could only work after the Saiyan saga, but that has Goku injured until after Krillin and Gohan had left for Namek, so there is no spot in the timeline where we can insert it. -The Christmas Tree of Might and Lord Slug are the same as above. -Revenge of Cooler fits well in the beginning of the Android Saga, where they are preparing for them. -The Return of Cooler is once again problematic, as it has SSJ Vegeta, and there is no point in time where there is a long enough lull in the action until the preparations to the Cell Games where they could leave for New Namek. -Super Android 13 could, maybe, with some stretch, fit into the downtime during the Cell Games preparations. -Broly fits pretty well during the Cell Games preparations. -The Plan to Eradicate Christmas once again doesn't fit anywhere, since the Cell Games downtime is not during winter, while we would have no Goku and have SSJ2 Gohan after the Cell Saga. I would rather say that the movies have their own canon that run in parallel with DBZA. In this timeline, Vegeta was beaten much quicker and easier, thus no injured Goku and less of a rush to Namek, allowing World's Strongest, The Christmas Tree of Might and Lord Slug to happen. Lord Slug's appearance leads to the discovery of the location of Namek, so they leave there, where the Frieza Saga happens. However, Frieza gets beaten easier and Goku returns to Earth with the others. Cooler happens after this, then Trunks' warning about the Androids, then Return of Cooler. Afterwards the Androids are quickly beaten, but Cell is very late in this timeline, so there is a full year of lull. During this time, Future Trunks stays around (in case there are other androids. :P), allowing Super Android 13 to happen. At the end of that movie, they find the hidden lab, but before blowing it up they learn about Cell. He is in hiding at this point, because he cannot just eat 17 and 18, so they know he is a threat but he is in the background, explaining how they have time for Gohan's college entrance and the wedding reception, and yet Trunks still calling after Vegeta because of Cell. Now the aforementioned year of timeskip comes into the picture: Trunks stays around and trains with the others in preparation to whenever Cell would show himself, explaining the long hair, but they don't enter the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, and since there is no brutal pressure, he never unlocks SSJ1.2 or whatever. The same goes for Gohan; he unlocks SSJ naturally, but because in this continuity they never entered the HTC, he and Goku never gets to the point where they master it to the point where they stay like that 24/7. Then Broly happens, and he smacks them around because of all those missed trainings and powerups. :P After this, The Plan to Eradicate Christmas happens, during which Cell uses the distraction to gather the Dragon Balls, wishes 17 and 18 back, only to eat them and becomes Perfect, then announces the Cell Games. Afterwards Goku and Gohan probably enters the HTC to master the SSJ form, then the rest of the Cell Saga plays out pretty much as seen in canon, leading into the upcoming Bojack movie.
I like the fact that when they were invited to cameo in DBZ Kai the Final Chapters, they essentially made it canon that Nappa came back and ended up working in Hollywood by using his voice for the actor that plays as Mr. Satan in the "movie" of how he beat Cell
I'm just glad they have such a good relationship. I feel like Akira was shown DBZA and he just loved the ever living shit out of it. Instead of being mad and like "how dare you steal my shit" he was probably smiling ear to ear with the interpretation these guys had of his show. It just makes me happy when things go the right way between the right people. Nintendo could learn a thing or two from this guy.
Too bad gokus english voice actor is a salty shitlord. Who said TFS were not real fans and were not protected under fair use because they wouldnt submit to toe and funimations dmca takedowns.
I greatly appreciate that DBZA and the spinoffs breathed life into characters otherwise long since abandoned. Yamcha forced to retire from his overly successful baseball career with a massive fortune. Nappa a Hollywood mogul and supportive mentor to Vegeta as a new father. Android 16 getting a happy, peaceful ending instead of the void. These characters are shown extra love, and it made them even more lovable.
TFS has basically an editor's freedom while knowing the entirety of the plot prior to bringing it to life. Akira went more by the seat of his pants, but did a well enough job to keep us interested.
Meanwhile all this abridged videos are indangered and for every episode you increase your risk for getting sued because they are scared to loose content, while destroying people's interest because they are scared to loose content. Thank you toriyama
@@prometheus5218 You realize Toriyama isn't the one copyright claiming them, right? I mean, it's not as if Toei animation holds the copyright to the Dragon Ball anime and merchandise.
Nail and Kami sticking with Piccolo is also a way to deal with his loneliness problem. Now he is never alone :D I'd say his character development works better in DBZA, since he is set up as desperately lonely since chapter 1.
Krillin to Yamcha: “When my girlfriend left, she took all MY money. When your girlfriend left, she took all HER money.” Roshi: “Gonna need a senzu for that one.”
You missed my favorite - and what I think, best - change they made, though you might have deliberately not touched on it since it's in THE finale. One of the pivotal end moments of the Cell saga is the Father/Son Kamehameha, which finishes off Cell. In the original, everyone fires energy at Cell from other angles to distract him and weaken his concentration, thus allowing Gohan's Kamehameha - amplified by Goku sending him energy from Otherworld - to destroy the evil bug man. In Abridged, however, two major differences. One, the big one, Goku sends no energy, and his pep talk is about how Gohan alone can step up and take Cell, standing on his own two feet...which REALLY shows the 'passing of the torch' that part was meant to be. Second, ONLY Vegeta throws energy to distract Cell, which shows both part of his growth (willing to be an aid to someone else's victory, and his grief over Trunks) and the difference in how they've established everyone's strength.
That's... not so much a change as a return to the manga. In it, Vegeta is indeed the only one to attack, and at no point is Goku implied to give Gohan extra energy beside motivational one.
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What are your favourite changes that have been made to the series by DBZA?
Totally Not Mark *All of them*
Totally Not Mark episode 1-194
Totally Not Mark movie 1-8
Totally Not Mark *It's fun when Super referenced the Abridged. They referenced Popo with the whole "banned thing" with Vegeta and the HTC. They even zoomed in on the eyes. They referenced Ghost Nappa. And having Kami and Nail talk to Piccolo during the ToP is a stretch, but still.*
Mr popo's character.
A17: lets change..lets forget killing people..
A18: Yea..
A17: forget killing son goku..
A16: LETS NOT GET CRAZY
Trunks: You mean cyborgs
16: I ve learned to love this planet from its birds, to it's people, to its birds.
@@elmeralvarado1236 Bro Bot!
You incorrectly quoted the line
Your punishment is catapult
all these squares make a circle,
all these squares make a circle,
all these squares make a circle,
"Kami I need you to tell me I can leave the lookout if I want to."
Kami:"Mr. Popo you can leave the lookout if you wa-"
*BITCH DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO!!!*
...all these squares make a circle
AND THATS ONE'S STILL GREEN
Lmao Mr. Popo had me dead in DBZA
When I first heard that i didnt understand it 😂
Ok, what’s up with him?
One of the not-funny parts, but I really like when Vegeta insults Future Trunks and Piccolo looks down at Gohan and says, "Gohan, you're a good kid." So simple, but so meaningful.
Well I think this scene is very funny because it's just so random but also makes sense (also I just find it funny that piccolo said this line)
Dani Erdman
Random? Piccolo sees the destructive nature of a father demeaning [edit]*his son* and chooses to use that moment to make a point of being kind to Gohan as his, despite how hard, father figure.
You can be a hard father, without being a fuck and this moment really illustrates that distinction.
If you watch it again you’ll see the joke was a call back. They mention how Yamcha kills himself in the future, and goku reassures him that he’s not alone. Then Vegeta says something about “not talking to bastards” and Piccolo reassures him. Not entirely random 😁
I literally teared the fuck up at that scene.
Lixxie Licious
For those of us with heckling older brother relationships with our dads, it’s a sweet moment lol
my fav moment of DBZA is the fact that Perfect Cell and Yamcha are basically buddies, Yamcha is underappreciated in the series in general, the fact that Cell appreciates Yamcha is amazing!
PERFECT CELL: Perfect. And Yamcha! What a surprise! How's it going man?
YAMCHA: Oh! Uh, good. I brought towels and water bottles.
PERFECT CELL: And like that, you've already contributed more than Vegeta.
Well I believe it’s also the fact that in Cell’s timeline Yamcha died from well himself. So I think Cell kind of wanted to uplift his spirits a little
Cell wanted Yamcha to be prey, not a statistic.@@rath3074
@@rath3074 i already imagine Cell listing through the Z Fighters to look for some good quality food to gain more power in case for defeating Trunks, and seeing:
"Krillin: got killed by Android 17"
-Well, not so surprising
"Tien: Killed by Android 18"
-Now it's a tie again
"Yamcha: suic!de"
-Woah, that is unexpected. Well, Yamcha finally got more kills here, than everyone else. And... that's even more depressing... I'll need tocheer him up a little in the past, maybe, then he will make a good meal in the future, which for me will be the past, or, like, my present now, but in this moment, but for future me it will be the past, and... Ugh, dang it! I'll just sneak up on Trunks, while he is distracted.
The strongest character in the series at that moment and basically the weakest one having that convo is just so good.
You'd never get a wholesome screwball to the face like that in the original.
@@NX-DeltaThat is a PERFECT dialogue for the character!
My favorite thing about the Change to 16 backstory is that when they play the video he says the date is May 12th which means that Gero attacked with 19 on the anniversary of his sons death which is such an overlooked added piece of depth that DBZA created that I never see anyone mention.
Thats really REALLY cool, and you're right, I dont think anyone else has caught on to that
Never noticed that. The DBZA guys made that series with love
I loved the fact they also had kid goku firing off a kamehameha at the end
Wow, I completely missed that!
I was even confused when Bulma says "that date sounds familiar"!
My favorite is tien’s ballzyness when it comes to Vegeta. “At this point it’s a game, if he kills me, I win. And he knows that.”
*Stares intensely*
I see what you did there...
Best part is that it’s a reference to an awesome movie scene lol
“Fuck power levels! Fuck Super Saiyans! And FUCK! YOU!”
@@shadow-km7vh explain?
SuperKamiGuru 62 it’s an oldish movie called Se7en in one of the scenes the guy is asking what’s in the box and one of the lines of that seen is “if you kill him, he will win” it’s worded differently on abridged but I’m positive that it was a reference to that move
"Now if you will excuse me, I will eliminate Cell."
"I thought you were only programmed to kill Goku?"
"This 'Cell' is comprised of 10.78% of Son Goku's DNA. These parameters... *are acceptable.* "
Zombiewithabowtie this might actually be my favorite DBZA line.
Possible competitor is when Tien says “Enough! I am not a spectator, I AM A WARRIOR!”
I always loved Tien as a kid and wished he had more cool moments.
@@dylankornberg4892 I can never read that guy.
I know, right? TFS have a lot of talent with their writing, but they really show it off with the stuff they did for 16.
P.S. My favourite line for Tein is probably the one to Android 18;
"YOU!! Blow yourself up or leave!! I don't care which!!"
@@Zombiewithabowtie Trunks says that, not Tien.
@@BBoy4040 They both say it, but Tien says it first. It's his first line after he hits Semi-Perfect Cell with the Kikoho.
Cell : "I see a light!"
A16 : " **WALK TOWARDS IT** "
Something else about the Androids I love that TFS did is actually GIVE them a true brother and sister relationship. Just hearing their dialogue they have with each other is great.
didn't the original do the same thing? it just had less jokes for obvious reasons.
@@jonathacirilo5745 The closest the original got to having them act like siblings was in The History Of Trunks Special.
@@RondoOfBloodX idk about that. the part with them trying to find goku and the fight against inperfect cell... also they very first appearences.
"GODDAMN CHEATING SON OF A BIT--"
"AHHHAHAHA! He rocked your shit!"
they where empty as hell in original DBZ, they where kinda weird, like, their first apearence was killing Gero refusing to follow his orders but then for some whatever reason they just decide to go Kill Goku anyways.
they barely had any dialogue, they joke a little bit about how stronger they are compared to the heroes and thats it.
Thats why it was freaking weird when 17 ruled the ToP in DBS and sudenly lots of people started saiyng 17 was their favorite character from DBZ, like, the hell he was, nobody cared about 17 in dbz, 18 had a little more on her side cuz of the relationship with Krilin but 17 basicaly just existed so that Cell could get a second form for Vegeta to Shine a little.
Yajirobe before TFS: Oh yea he's the guy who cuts off Vegeta's tail and gives you Senzu beans in the Legacy of Goku games
Yajirobe after TFS: Beandaddy
Have you ever seen what an old senzu bean diet does to a man?
@@s5701 no but i want to know more
@@ultimaboi2950 lol
Beandaddy on abridged is just a rrference to him calking himself that on the original revenge of cooler. Abridged didn't come up with that.
@@s5701 all* not old
My favorite DBZA lines of them all:
Krillin: "I was on Namek, shit got real. I got stabbed, and blown up!"
Yamcha: "I was stabbed and blown up too. And dumped by the only girl I ever had!"
Krillin: "Same. But you know the difference? When mine left she took all my money. When yours left, she took all *HER* money."
Yamcha: ".........."
Master Roshi: "....Gonna need a senzu for that one."
They should have dropped one off the Krillin owned counter for that.
Nah, that was fucking savage, but i'm glad they saved it for 18.
Not even a senzu could heal that
Vegeta no!!!
Vegeta Yeeeessss!!
@@mygame6076 Vegeta *no.*
Wait so krillin roasted yamcha, himself, or both?
“Krillian: Dude, he’s 11.....”
“Cell: I’m 6!”
“Krillian: Oh.....”
WAAAW
Maggot*
@@MrPopo-cc8lh 😂😂👌
Wow
@@MrPopo-cc8lh 🤣🤣🤣
“There’s more than one way to realise the legend!... I wanna be a super sayain! I wanna! I wanna! I wanna!”
DBZA Vegeta and Nappa were perfect
Frezia was also really funny tho
Okay, but it got funnier when they had Cell do it, "I wanna be perfect! I wanna! I wanna! I wanna! I wanna!"
Goku "Androids!"
Trunks "Actually they are cybo...
goku "androids"
"My siblings Cyborg 17 and 18"
"We call them androids"
"Well good for you, you're wrong!"
Can we appriciate for a moment that the androids were built by someone Bulma described as "adequate with robotics" and the implications of that if she was serious
"Terrorists, no androids, terroroids, Guy's we've got a bad case of terroroids!"
Goku
" Am I in hell? Why am I in a bed? You'd think hell would have beds made out of spikes, or spiders, or spikey spiders, spikers!"
Bardock
@@awarmmilkandcookies In the manga 17 and 18 were cyborgs but 16 was an android, purely mechanical, which is why Cell couldn't absorb any energy from him. Did TFS give an explanation for it not working after they did make 16 a cyborg?
@@Azadi188 Yes.
Cell: "Now you'll be a part of me" *fails to suck* "Of me" *fails again* of "Me" *fails again* "God, what are you made of? Pure metal?"
Android 16: "Affirmative. I am ANDROID 16"
Cell: "Mistakes were made"
Not gonna talk about tien being an actual good character?
The gag with Tien is that he is the only truly serious character. And that is hilarious.
"I'm the only real serious character in the show, that's the joke"
Tien pointing out bullshit that was happening in the series was one of my favorites especially when he got so fed up with power gap and attacked cell to prove a point basically and said "fuck power levels" then went on to actually stop semi perfect cell for a short time
@@isaac2990 "Ya know what? F*** Super Saiyans. F*** Power Levels. And F*** You! Ki Ko Ho!"
@@KWHere2 "ki ko fuck yourself"
"The orange hillbilly beats his kid and wife"
I loved how they portrayed the outsiders perspective to the insanity of the maincast. While the original showed perplexed faces, tfs showed dialogue, misunderstandings and even chichi fainting from the shock when seeing it on tv. Ingenius
Wait, I just remembered, before those misunderstandings happened, Cell had a 60 Minutes part where he told all of DBZ lore about Goku.
Did nobody watch the interview?
I know Mr. Perfect Cell killed the interviewer at the end, but wasn't it being broadcasted?
Worst part is that's not even the worst of it. They regularly chill with God, one of them is the reincarnation of a dude who called himself a demon king, Goku knows devilman, pretty sure God was gone for like over a week, and out of everyone in Goku's group only Yamcha, Krillin, and Gohan haven't tried to kill or seriously injure Goku
@@therighteously8454 yamcha and krillin both tried to kill/seriously injure goku.
Yamcha tried to injure goku and rob him during their first encounter and after he got beaten snuck to gokus and bulmas house to rob and kill him while he was asleep.
Krillin tried to kill/seriously injure goku when they were both competing to get the only apprentice spot under Master Roshi (which turned out to be a test from Master Roshi). Krillin cut the ropes off a bridge in order for goku to fall to his death/seriously injure himself to be the first to finish Roshis task and get the apprentice spot
@@beatsbyadmiralz5915 You're right I forgot about those.
@@beatsbyadmiralz5915 Wow, that kinda helps explain how/why Goku ended up the way he....is.
Honestly my favorite is the "You SEE FRIEZA, YOU AREN'T DEALING WITH YOUR AVERAGE SAIYAN WARRIOR ANYMORE"
Freeza: OH MY GOD!!!!
Fcking killed me everytime
Loved how they brought back that line from Broly's father saying that again to haunt Vegeta.
have we been here before, I feel like we've been here before
He said that 3 times
Semi-Perfect Cell: How? How did you get so strong?
Vegeta: I trained all day yesterday.
Semi-Perfect Cell: Oh, you think you're being cute.
Vegeta: Bitch, I'm Adorable!
Best bit about that is when trunks says that exact line to the androids in the future
@@daf6332 not the Androids, he says it to Cell aswell
My favorite line fr
TFS vegeta feels more vegeta than og vegeta himself
Cringe eww
Voices - A+
Story - A+
Characters - A+
Dialogues - A+
Waiting for next episode - C-
rejczz to be fair it’s an F. To be honest though they don’t get paid and can actually lose money by being sued for doing this, soooo I guess the C- is appropriate.
at this rate more like an E- barely staying above that f
Nah, Buu Saga is going to be released all at once, rather than spaced out. (Well it's gonna probably be weekly, but still)
@@dragonslayerz2220 please say this is confirmed
I think they confirmed it in April.
The lines from Vegeta are so damn good:
"Huh. That's a new feeling; pride in someone else. Unfortunately, it's overSHADOWED BY ALL THIS UNYIELDING RAGE!"
Vegeta is fucking perfect. And they didn't even change him up all that much! It's just so spot on.
Goku and Gohan's dynamic. I like that Goku is the exaggerated absentee father, and that Gohan actually has some trauma from it all.
I AM THE HYPE!
*Look at your men. Now back to me. Now look back at your men. Back to me. I am not your men. I'm flipping you off (middle finger). Now look at the ground. Back to me. Where's the dragon ball? It's gone.*
And
*Didn't Frieza blow you up? tHeN U shOuLD REaLly wAtCh OuT foR tHaT!! That's you!*
My favorite parts of the entire DBZA including the one line from broly movie. *Speak louder boy I can't hear you down here!*
This and Tien's hate boner for him is just hilarious!
I like how they made a point of "deconstructing" Goku's Idiot Hero character. It's definitely exaggerated, but you can't forget he did so many incredibly stupid things in canon (like, well, giving Cell a FRICKING Senzu Bean). This also allows the other characters (like Gohan) to be played as aware of the fact that Goku's an idiot. A well-intentioned incredibly strong one, but an idiot nonetheless.
I love the relationship between piccolo and Gohan where piccolo sees himself more as gohans father than goku 😂
"MY... BABY... BOY!!" Lani's read of that line gives me chills every time I watch it
I think Piccolo and Kami's interaction on the lookout deserves an honorable mention. Kami, feeling bitter about being one with Piccolo, knowing his body would be just another prison, and that whole situation was handled much better with TFS than it was by Funimation. When TFS wants to write serious, they really do a damn good job of it.
A PERFECT moment!
Serious doesn't work so well when everything is so serious. This is dragon ball damn it, lighten up once in a while.
@@tsm688 im confused... you think dfza is too serious...?
@@98loudare u dumb? Cause I'm pretty sure it means serious and comedic moments are not lined well.
Also the speech held by A16 to Gohan was a really deep talk! "There u are, the good man, doing nothing!"
Dragonball Z was written for me when I was a kid in the late eighties and nineties.
Abridged was rewritten for an adult me. I simply adore them both.
Almost the same. I had lost interest in DB like 20 years ago. What did they renewed my interest in the franchise.
@@Frost-yw9sz it showered your mind with a negative false outlook of the story, your no longer a fan of Dragonball.
@@Frost-yw9sz if you thought that watching a dub was enough to rejoin the fanbase.
@@LazyLoonz Well, DBZ A made me interested again in DB products, but whatever makes you happy buddy. I won't waste time arguing what makes a fan or not rofl
@@LazyLoonz wow you're such an extreme little bitch.
Piccolo: "How... How many people?!"
Cell: "... Enough."
Absolutely chilling, and not something I expected from TFS
"...All of them." would've been an awesome choice too
....a few.
@@ShwappaJ That's what he said in Kai. It was a good line and conveys Cell's demented nature well, but I gotta say, the TFS line is pretty damn cold and played much more seriously.
@@darthyamideathbringer yeah but 'enough' works so well because it ties into what Cells side quest had been before finding them.. which was to get just strong enough to be able to go and face them again.. he's basically letting piccolo know he's has enough stolen energy to beat them
And then Tri-clops shows up and decides "I'm going to turn triangles in to feckin squares"
Lmao also Mr. Popo on a gallon of LSD saying, "all these squares make a circle"
“I will never read that guy”
Cell in the distance: "How did all these squares make a circle!?"
Jesus Villarreal cell: and that one is still green
@@khupno3356 Let it go, Cell, you have sh!t to do.
I think they also really improved Vageta and Bulma’s romance. They hated each other, but that just got them going.
their 'exchange' (while Vegeta was destroying himself at 300X Gravity) was all they needed, AND it was more than the Original Dubs ever gave...just a simple
'fuck you...!'
"Fuck YOU!!"
'...my room, five minutes?'
@@rtyuik7 my favorite part xd
not exactly like they could have made that exchange even remotely in any original material
“Just to prove you wrong I am going to breed the nearest female.”
“Oh cool.”
@@hellboy19991...isn't this the same series where one wish from the dragon balls was a pair of a hot women's panties?
What do you call a group of humans?
Mr popo: An infestation
I laughed for a long time
Filthy ningens
IS THAT THE NEMEKIAN?!?! IS THAT ME!?!? IS THAT ME STRONGER THAN ME?!?!?! I’LL FUCKING KILL ME!!!!
Right🤣🤣
I gotta agree with the black man here.
Hi........
They also fixed a number of plot holes in the original.
Why can't Piccolo, Tien, Chiaotzu, or Yamcha use the Kaioken or the Spirit Bomb? Because they pissed off King Kai and he refused to teach them.
Why does no one else ever learn instant transmission? Goku didn't learn it; he got it from eating sick aliens. The others don't have a bunch of sick aliens to eat.
Why not wish back King Kai? Yamcha goofed when phrasing the wish.
How did Trunks survive 18's blast, despite taking a huge blast at point-blank range and being too weak to stand? 17 got in the way.
Why didn't Mr. Popo transport Goku straight to the Saiyans? He was makin' toast.
I also feel like they humanized (saiyan-ized?) Vegeta a bit more by giving him his own sarcastic tender side. Him flipping off Trunks was genuinely heart-warming to watch.
@@Mimhere are you an idiot? It's not from Manga and filler scene and mr. Popo thought kinto'un was enough
@@NixiePixie22 no he was just REALLY fast
@@NixiePixie22 nah, he was just moving really fast.
Yeah, Toryiama is a pretty bad writer
@@greg77389 I disagree. I think he's a good writer, but his memory is terrible. The guy doesn't do well with following rules, but I think he understands characters and motivations pretty well.
"In mere moments, the only thing you'll be feeling is oblivion"
Was the most perfect Vegeta line from anything dragon ball related
“Bitch, I’m adorable” was better imo
@@Cashtenator Good for you, you're wrong.
"Or disappointment. Go ahead! Flip that coin "
my favourite will always be "is that me? is that me stronger than me? i´ll kill me"
and later in the buu saga he would have
not sure if it was meant to be a reference to vegetas line in the budokai games when he performs the final flash.. yelling out 'welcome to oblivion'
I also loved how Piccolo went from being demon to a yoshi before they learned about Namek.
John Urbanek I liked it better when I had proper bladder control. Nobody’s perfect
mad props for such an old joke
My fav Nail line: “mom, dad please stop fighting”
"You're not meditating, you're sleeping-I know the difference!"
My fav Nail moment was when he asked if he had to move the pool table to make room for Kame
@@matthewlemon9282
*Pool table noises*
Nail: What trick?
"Lower"
"Nail gun?"
Cell: I'm impressed behind all that angst and ridiculous hair, there's a real fighter.
Trunks: And behind that insufferable smarm is a dead man!
Cell: Trunks, you couldn't fathom the amount of dead men behind me.
*Chills every time.*
It’s so badass 🔥🙌
Cell does like his slices of bread
Piccolo: "How many?"
Cell: *"Enough."*
"Feel free to pray to your god.....but spoilers, I won't be listening."
That writing made cell still feel like a threat and kept him from being lost in the sillyness. Cell is wonderfully written.
A20: "19! Dodge!"
A19: " *Beginning dodge protocol* " Get's hit anyway
A20: "Why is dodging a subroutine?! It's not that complex!"
Piccolo glares at Gohan
Gohan: "What? ... What?!"
Counterpoint: During the fight between Piccolo and 17
A16: Dodge!
A17: Dodge wha-?
17 gets hit by Piccolo and stumbles back.
A17: You know 16, yelling 'Dodge!' is more distracting than helpful!
Dangggg
@@quentincoetzee4313 Yeah that was funny af
Later in the cell fight...
Piccolo: "Gohan dod-"
Gohan: *dodges*
Kami: "You must be so proud"
Yea but he could be dodging better
Trunks: “NOTICE MEEEEE!”
Vegeta: “...Nooooooo....”
lul
Look at me! I'm Trunks! Love me daaaaad!
Goku: Hey Trunks! How's your training going?
Trunks: I don't know let's see... HEY DAD YOU WANNA TRAIN WITH ME!?
'Geets: FUCK OFF!
@@enforcer0175 that’s a terrible impression
@@phoebusapollo8365 but not inaccurate!
“What the hell is a Kami?!?”
“It means God, now bow.”
How do you not mention that amazing line!
Because almost every goddamn line in the series is golden. He could just replay the entire series for you if you'd like 😂
I legitimately think that's the best line followed up very shortly by Vegeta's "pound you so hard the boys mother will be jealous"
Vegeta: You! Namekian! Too strong! Explain now!"
@@bigcauc7530 i honestly would watch it lol
"Trunks... you couldn't *fathom* the amount of dead men behind me."
Krillen committed insurance fraud not tax evasion.
Is it insurance fraud if you actually died?
@@meatsauce3751 Not from our perspective, but it would be a bitch to explain how you actually died on a planet light years away from our solar system and somehow managed to get back to earth alive and well.
Meat Sauce well he took out a life insurance policy on himself before they went to namek and had them send the money to his “twin brother” knowing that if he died he would just be wished back and could pretend to be his brother. So since he technically faked his death it could be counted as insurance fraud
@@user-eu8kr5ub5m I think they could get him for having a beneficiary that doesn't exist, right?
either way hes going to prison for a loooong time.
The top DBZA moment was Tienshinhan, hands down.
"Fuck power levels."
"Fuck super saiyans."
"And FUCK YOU!"
"SHIN KIKOHOOO!"
"YOU UPSTART TRICLOPSE BITCH!"
fact that that came full circle when the cell games started and cell greeted everyonbe then he came to tien and you could here the distain in his voice when he said tenshinhan with tien responding smugly kikohowyadoing.
Ki ko how ya doin
The scene I liked way more in Abridged was when Gohan turned his rage on against Cell. He didn't become Goku Jr. He was still nerdy, but cool as fuck in his own way.
never liked dbza Gohan. Not only because he isn't funny, but because I find him boring too. In the original series I really saw gohan as a character. Because in my opinion, we can feel more emotions coming from the characters like sadness, anger, melancholy. Much of this is lost in dbza by treating everything as a joke. In conclusion, I still prefer Gohan turning ssj2 against cell in the original series, With the original soudtrack it gets even better.
@@ElissonDSouza I know you did not just say the English dub theme for Gohan's SSJ2 transformation is better than spirit vs spirit from the sub. That has to be a sin.
@@dankmagician7108 DING!
@@timmybear5284 I forgot about what he had said since this was a month ago and now I am just as enraged as I was before, like holy shit how can someone think the dub OST for Gohan's transformation is better than the sub's
@@timmybear5284 28 episodes of filler +100 sin DING
"Don't worry Vegeta, we'll help your baby boy!"
"Fuckin' better..."
I actually loved the change to Vegeta during the finale. The whole world kinda dropping away while he was at a loss for words looking at his dead son was far more impactful than the inner dialogue about how cell crossed a line to harmed his pride by killing his son that we did get.
The “MY BABY BOY!” still hits deep.
Facorite change... “Gohan’s Dad” in the subtitles whenever Piccolo talks after season 2.
Only the Canadian subtitles.
That’s just the joke subtitles and TFS doesn’t even do the subtitles
Gero's son didn't became an android. 16 was modeled after him, with a simulation of his personality ( like loving birds ). DBZA makes the distinction between androids and cyborgs. For him to be his actual son, it would make him a cyborg, but he's : pure metal
You’re schizophrenic
fullmetal, if you will.
no shit Sherlock
Honestly I loved when piccolo had to explain to goku that gohan didnt actually like fighting.
MaxSonic yeah that was in the real show as well, they only change so much when they completely steal someone's animation and dub over it
@@shockwavesyndrome6433 lol they arent stealing it
@@shockwavesyndrome6433 Stealing implies that they are taking it and saying "Look at my animation" (Like mastar media) They give the proper credits to everyone who was involved with the old show (The studios not the actual people) Now dubbing over it would just be the tfs voicew with the same exact lines in the show. They have made the show into something else while also fixing plot holes. Please know about something before you screech.
I'm Right You're Wrong not gonna refute me? Too stupid?
A Nappy Headed Hooligan sure kid and if all of that's true then tell me, if it's fair use and not copied then why can't they put ads on the videos? Why must there be an entire minute long start up talking about how it's not theirs and they don't make money off of it because they literally take the entire show and dub over it? Notice how honest trailers can put ads on their videos because they take clips and comment it's fair use for them but why not for tfs? Maybe before you screech you should know what you are talking about
"I'M KILLING EVERYONE....then I'm going to range the shit out of that park" -tfs android 17
Aaaand that's how TFS predicted the future
Maeve: The smug one they didn’t predict it he was a park ranger in the buu saga
That was TFS' Future 17, and I believe he said he's going to kill every human.
In the DBZA coolers revenge movie:
Goku: *revives bird* " I'm gonna name you toriyama. Go and tame a dinosaur and teach it how to ride a ball."
DBZA:
Android 16: "what's you're name birdie?"
Bird: "tweet"
Android 16: "Toriyama?!?!"
Bird: "tweet"
Android 16: "Sure I would love to see your dinosaur."
Bird: "tweet"
Android 16: "IT DOES WHAT?!?!?!?!?"
Bro never noticed that wtf
All of which are references to Toriyama himself and the lyrics to Cha-La Head-Cha-La. I'm glad somebody else caught that connection, I remember laughing my ass off watching 16's reaction.
Thanks for the tip. I didn't know about coolers revenge movie.
I kid you not, I didn’t get that joke until I first listened to Cha-La Head Cha-La with English subs about a year later.
Incorrect. Goku names the bird toriyama before he dies and goes super saiyan to revive him, that’s when he says the rest
Thanks to TFS's Vegeta, every time I call my rats cute, I imagine them replying, *"Bitch, we're ADORABLE!"*
I hope to find myself in a situation I can use it as a retort.
Imagine if they did the Buu saga. We could have the same gag where Goku needs to charge the spirit bomb, and he would ask Vegeta to stall Kid Buu. "And considering how much I struggled in the ssj3 form.... I'm sure you can handle it"
"The Namekian was right, you can hold a grudge!"
There's also a scene in which Videl fights a gangster who happens to look like Nappa. There's some possibilities there.
The Spirit Bomb is the least reliable technique in the series. It doesn't take out Vegeta (and it hits Gohan during that fight, who just kinda bounces it back). It doesn't take out Frieza. It implodes when Goku tries it on Android 13. Future Trunks finally makes it work by using it as a sword instead of a blast. Not only does it not work on Jiren, when it hits Goku it actually makes him stronger.
Also it finally took out Buu. Not a great track record though.
Yeah, cause repeating the same old jokes are “HILARIOUS!” 😒😒😒
@@DragonSword227 It's called a callback.
Totally Not Mark: "Mr. Popo doesn't count."
Mr. Popo: "What was that, Maggot?!"
Pecking order
I read this in his voice, mom dad pick me up, im scared
@@user-cn8xi4el6h the eternal darkness that is in your mind... thats no darkness...
@@TactfulWaggle oh god, NOOOOO REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, DONT DO THAT POPO, PLEASE I HAVE YOUR MONEY NOOOO, POPO PLEASE I KNOW THE PECKING ORDER, NOOOO
@@user-cn8xi4el6h I read that in Dbza krillins voice 😂😂😂
DBZA made me like Yamcha and Tien way more than I did in the original. They have actual character to them.
That's pretty ironic. TFS kind of started off all the Yamcha memes and hate. I really liked Yamcha before TFS, after watching DB when I was much younger.
Funny they had Personality in DB Classic, but lost all of this in Z. But oh wonder, everyone think Z is the best DB Season.
@@Sunaki1000 I really didn't care all that much about the cell saga. It had it moments but, it doesn't compare to most of the tournament saga to the buu saga. That season introduced more characters and development especially for Vegeta. I also mainly grew up on that saga more when I was younger.
@@n.m.4138 The two tornaments of this Ark are a big fakeout, but I like the Story between Cell and Buu.
It was nice little Charakterfokused Comedy. Not many high stakes, but harmless.
Sternia Hoenheim That’s great and all but you’re assuming people saw/read/know about original DB. There are people TO THIS DAY who think Pilaf Gang, more specifically Mai, because she’s the only one with relevance now, was first introduced in DBS. There are people who don’t know that Demon King Piccolo was a thing or than Shenron straight up died and had to be glued back together. People usually just watched Z and moved on with the series. I bet there are a whole damn lot of people who don’t know Tien and Yamcha both beat Goku in one on one fights either
When Vegeta says sorry at the end. Holy fucking shit I had to replay that like 4 times
My favorite moment from the show. Is when Freeza was counting lines. I genuinely thought it was from actual dragon ball until I rewatched DBZA again.
And 500, Dodoria give them what they want.
@@ElHarmonyV FUCK YOUR FACE!
@@sofakingonmynuts1438 Oh my !......
12.
It's absolutely the kind of thing we'd think of Freeza doing. It's utterly demeaning to everyone else and shows how he considers them nothing but props for his amusement.
"Imma deck you in the schnoz!"
"Sorry, that's a new one... Who are you?"
Tien: “this is the last cool thing I do. There is no joke.”
Semi-perfect Cell: “Respect.”
you mean "Respec"
AW BEANS
You've got 666 likes and I'm not touching that
Trunks: "Father! Notice me!"
Vegeta: "Nooooo!"
Trunks: *Dies*
Vegeta: MY BABY BOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Gohan: Vegeta no!
Vegeta:VEGETA YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!
@@nivek8787
Piccolo: Don't worry we'll go revive your "baby boy" *snickers* and flys off
Vegeta: fucking better.
"GOHAN BECOMES STRONGEST IN THE UNIVERSE AND STILL DOESNT DO CRAAAP"
Good old Freeza Planet 419
Nobody ever goes to Freeza Planet 419.
@@four8865 not since it’s species miraculously repopulated.
@@phoebusapollo8365 It's unfortunate, I heard the planet exploded due to a stray energy blast..
There's one small exchange between the androids that I think sums up what I love about the changes TFS made to them:
"Rocket Punch!"
_"Wow, really?"_
_"THAT IS SO COOL!"_
Lord Scribe STOP IT
I'm surprised you didn't talk more about Android 16. He became so badass and so wholesome at the same time. His love for birds, his fight with Imperfect Cell (especially his lines), his final message to Gohan before dying, it's all great and makes me love the character more. And he probably has the best one liners in the whole series.
"I was wearing my armor" -Vegeta.
"... you're an idiot"
Bulma
"The fuck's a condom??"
@Freddy Voorhees "You know you are being more bitchy than usual today, and NOT in a hot way"
@Freddy Voorhees Niiiiiice xD
@Freddy Voorhees I WAS WEARING MY ARMOR
Great parody is an act of love. It's from people who know and love the source, but can still recognize the sillier aspects and plot wholes. The parody emphasizes this while still maintaining the great parts of the original. It's why Star Trek fans love Galaxy Quest. It even went the extra yard in turning everything they made fun of around into an awesome moment later.
I agree. While the Ocean to OG Funimation Dub is my favorite version of DBZ, DBZA is still fucking hilarious and well written at times. IMHO Early episodes haven't aged that well but they started some great gags in the series so fuck it but once we get to the second half of Namek, we get stronger character moments, Nail being part of the series and improving Piccolo, Krillin and 18, Vegeta, Tien and Yamcha along with other side characters getting more love and character respectively, list goes on.
I may not follow the canon of the series over the official one but there are parts of it I wish made it into the official material along with stuff mentioned in interviews like the Androids.
So we're not gonna talk about how LittleKuriboh pretty much inspired the future of Frieza's voice in the anime and games now?
The voice of Frieza in DBZA and the Broly Movie is so similar.
@@TheKazragore LittleKuriboh literally is the father of Abridged on youtube.
@@farguc PurpleEyesWTF is like a mad scientist when it comes to humor for Abridged series.
No he didn’t...?
He didn't, and I'd welcome people to actually know think this. He just did what Freeza would've sounded like in a proper English dub, because in the original Japanese, Freeza always sounded sophisticated. It is something that Abridged merely emulated and hence, so did the English dubs made after. It is rather telling that a freaking *parody* needed to be made so the English dub actually gets Freeza right!
DBZA is the effect of having what in italy we call "the sense of after". After you do or perceive a thing and start thinking deeply about it, you can see how things turned out and how it could have been done better, beyond personal tastes, while in development you either consciously or not made decisions that cut off or clobbered some things. And thing is, it's extremely hard for companies to do it even while realizing it, since they all have an host of bindings they have to respect, but fanbases do not - while having their own issues by themselves.
DBZA it's indeed a very good thing.
Enrico Boccardi Hindsight is truly 20/20
Confermo...conoscendo una cosa e vedendola per come è cominci a pensare “come avrei proceduto io?” ed Abridged è letteralmente la creazione di questi ragazzi, un gruppo che ha voluto riscrivere dragon ball per renderlo meno da bambini e più da adulti. Questo perché un ragazzino si fermerebbe all’ilarità di, non so, Krilin che si masturba nella grotta per Bulma, o goku che sforna muffin sulla nave di Frieza, ma l’adulto vede le cose più profonde e apprezza la qualità del loro lavoro, perché Abridged è un piccolo capolavoro.
Ad esempio io ho riflettuto molto nella scena dove Piccolo fa quel discorso a goku, chiedendogli “hai mai chiesto a tuo figlio, almeno una volta, cosa gli piace e cosa no?” E goku dice “ma lui ha passato un anno con me nella stanza dello spirito e del tempo, credevo gli piacesse” e piccolo gli fa giustamente notare che Gohan non lo ha fatto per allenarsi ma per trascorrere tempo con lui, suo padre, che ha passato metà del tempo morto e l’altra metà ad allenarsi da solo, e a volte entrambe le cose contemporaneamente (bellissima anche questa precisazione dell’entrambe le cose)...per un uomo che ha vissuto col padre spesso assente per lavoro, lontano come rapporto o del tutto assente (morto o cose simili) quella scena ha un peso notevole. Ammetto di essermi sentito sinceramente male per gohan in quel momento
So you're talking about fucking hindsight then.
Frate non la ho mai sentita sta cosa
Sooooo... hindsight?
Vegeta: Wrestling's fake.
(Ginyu Force episodes are fucking masterpiece hands down)
"coreographed"
"when a man is inside you, you know when he's coming"
Always cracks me up
Wait, I don't remember this one. When did they say it?
It is when mecha frieza goes to earth if i remember correctly
Before Dragon Ball Z abridged, I couldn't even be bothered to give a damn about characters like Nappa. In fact, as a kid I even though Nappa and Recoome were the same guy for some reason.
Then came DBZA and changed _everything_
*Nappa:* "I am hilarious and you will quote everything I say"
Recoome: ‘‘The name's... Recoome! It rhymes... with doom! And you're gonna be hurtin', ALL. TOO. SOOOOOOOOOOO-nuh!’’
DBZMacky I thought recoome and Android 18 were the same
You were a stuuuuuupid kid lmao
@ Not only read it in Recoome's voice but alao in his pose... I need help!
But nobody cares about Raditz still.
From Raditz's: So nudity makes you stronger on this planet? to Future Bulma's explaining to Trunks the details of how he was born, TFS "nailed" it.
"in for a penny in for a pounding i always say, and boy was I."
*Nail Gunned it
@@KrawmKruach'...And I really was' *********
Imperfect Cell: "My brother and sister, Cyborgs 17 and 18"
Piccolo: "We call them androids"
Imperfect Cell: "Well good for you, you're wrong!"
The whole Cell arc was just amazing. Every line he says is just, and pardon the pun... perfect
@@VampireObssessed Semi perfect? How can you be semi perfect? You're either perfect or you're not me!
@@scarybusey Vegeta: Did... did you just talk out your ass?
Cell: Well, to be fair Vegeta, you are part of my DNA
Vegeta: Ooh, that's the closest thing you've done to damage since I've gotten here
@@VampireObssessed Vegeta: "What the hell am I sensing? Is that the Namekian!!!?? Is that me!!!??? Is that me stronger than me!!!!!???? I'LL FUCKIN KILL ME!!!!!
"Now I know what you're thinking. Should I rip off his tail? But the answer may surpri-"
*16 rips his tail off*
*AHHHHHHHHHHHHH*
17: Seriously what’s a kami
Piccolo: It means god now Bow
It came me goosebumps 😂
That bit with Android 16's past was a lot better imo. Before it was just Gero being upset that the army lost a fight
@Wayne Cox i'm aware.
His son lost his life in a fight for the red ribbon army. So when Goku destroyed them, he felt like his sons death was for nothing.
@@Vellione They don't talk about that in the anime though.
No, no they didn´t. I have read it on the wiki but can´t find the source of the story how Dr. Geros son died. The only thing i found out now is that in one way or another Android 21 (from a DBZ game) is Android 16´s mom.
What eps was that? I’ve watched every episode(least I thought I did) and I don’t ever remember seeing that
I think TFS did an amazing job with Cell himself, the way he acts, certain remarks he makes like telling Trunks that he's already killed him in another timeline and saying that 16 didn't have a soul was brilliant.
And being something of a masochist was funny as well.
Not to mention the subtle point of 18 saying "there's a 'soulless' joke somewhere in there, but that's beneath me" about android 16 being a ginger. Then, later on, Cell makes that exact joke, saying "we both know he never had a soul!" after killing android 16.
The joke WAS beneath android 18 since she's more humane, but it wasnt beneath the heartless asshole that Cell was.
I loved the PERFECT song he did, while goofy it was also menacing in a way how he was singing about the genocide he'll commit while everyone there was just shaking
@@JaysonLevicus not to mention that Cell was physically beneath her at that point as well.
@@SuperShanko Also, takahata101 voiced Cell perfectly.
My favorite change is Piccolo having Kami and Nail in his head
It was one of the best changes for him honestly.
Yeah it made him interesting
Yep
It's even funnier when you notice that Kami(god), Nail(jesus), Piccolo(holy spirit) share one body
XD :D
It may not fit into the original series but my favorite TFS change is the back and forth between Vegeta and Gohan on namek. The "thwartin my plans" little skit is gold in my books
I love when that comes up later with Trunks.
"Thwartin' my plans?"
"Thwartin' your plans?"
"Are you?!"
"....You know what? YES!"
Android #17: Oh.. oh... ohhh.. ohh shit.
Piccolo: HELLZONE GRENADE!
Android #17: Oh man it’s even got a cool name
Android #16: Rocket punch!
Android #18: Ugh.
Android #17: THAT IS SO COOL!
Wompa Stompa I was literally thinking the same thing
And the classic
KAIO-KEN
kaio What?
X Just Goku X
Piccolo: You know how I use the Special Beam Cannon with one hand, what if I used two hands instead.
Nail: Kinda like the Kamehameha?
Piccolo: No, not like the Kamehameha. The Kamehameha doesn’t drill things.
Kame: Neither does a cannon
Piccolo: That’s what makes it special
Kami: Why are you backflipping?
Piccolo: To gain some distance!
Kami and Nail: YOU CAN FLY!!
One line I absolutely love is: “this is so non-canon that it hurts”
Where is this referenced at? I wanna know the source
KankSchlap I think that it’s the turles movie, vegeta is watching from a tv and he says that, I’ll go make sure rn
KankSchlap yea it’s from the tree of might part 2, vegeta is sitting on namek and just randomly says that
"He keeps kicking me in the dick. Why? Why does he keep kicking me in the dick??"
yeah doesn't feel good does it kakarot?
Frieza (made funnier but definitely still sadistic), Nappa (sure goofy but way more relevant than just being a mucsle head), Piccolo (with his internal dialogs and more down to earth demeanor), and Tien (made a very real character, and out-right points out what he thinks of others) are the characters best changed and still themselves made by team four star.
Also I really just love the scene where Gohan turns SSJ2 and when Goku tries to get him to stop torturing Cell Gohan just throws all of Goku's dumb choices right back at him. That dialog right there should have been in the actual series.
My personal favorite "I know, how about I throw him a goddamn senzu bean and let you fight him"
Yeah in the end line: " I don't want to be a bad father I am just bad at being one"
feels man tugged my heartstrings there.
Honestly, I don't think there's a single character where they made them worse: they only ever improved them somehow. And that's an amazing achievement given how iconic and well-developed some of the original characters were.
@@leerobbo92 "how iconic and well-developed some of the original characters were"
Toriyama: *spits out drink and laughs in every character that isn't Goku*
leerobbo92 popo
the best change that TFS made that you didnt mention was Kami fusing with Piccolo and the weight that it held. Kami's reluctance in the original material seemed to be out of his worry about cell, but TFS made it into a sorrow over losing all of his own free will and the fact he had to rejoin with what was an evil side of himself.
I need an adult
I am an adult😂
No , no your not
@@sheogorathpatronofcheese4376 u right😂
your profile pic of Toby goes well with your comment, holy shít x''D
@@NixiePixie22 😂😂thank you
In the Buu saga, I could imagine moments like this:
"I need an adul... Oh, right. I am an adult."
Making dodoria the thiccest girl from her planet was probably the most hilarious change, a close second being krillin whackin it in the cave on namek
*shrill screaming* OH God it's everywhere!!!!
The wiki said he has
A
Ya now what should I say it
Just read the wiki
@@Matteo73M Oh my!!!!
To put in to perspective how long this has been going for... when they started, Myspace was still a thing... still love ya Tom
"Well hi, Tom!"
Dont forget he got replaced by Goku.
@@Sampletexto1 He came back in episode 49, though. Of course, he died fairly quickly afterwards.
Goku's pep talk with Gohan during the final Kamehameha is criminally underrated. It's written like a joke, but the things he says to Gohan are SO beautiful.
Especially: "You are more than just my son. You are Son Gohan."
That line has so, SO much meaning behind it I could be here all day talking about it. It doesn't look like it, but it's *powerful.* It's so beautiful I cry just thinking about it.
Now plant your feet, grit your teeth, and EAT THAT HORSE!
I also love that before Gohan falls he's like "Horse eaten".
It’s not just giving Nail and Kami more time around because they’re developed. It’s the fact that they even are developed. Nail had practically zero personality in Z and the fact that he’s interesting at all in DBZA is a huge accomplishment.
Yeah, he went from a generic honorable personality to a 'My asshole elder sent me to my death, so I might as well stick with you.' Which I prefer this better
Absolutely. He's kind of like that dick headed roommate you get annoyed with sometimes, but he actually helps pay rent and it's a good time to just shoot the shit with them.
Piccolo: Yeah, knda preachin' to the choir on that one...
“Mom,dad. Please stop fighting...”
Kami too, his "just another prison" speech before fusing was an amazing addition to a character that hadn't really been developed outside of the 23rd World Tournament arc
One of my favorite changes has to be Android 16's speech to Gohan. THE DBZA version completely flipped the script, becoming a statement to man up from a fellow gentle soul that really helped to highlight both the weight of Gohan's responsibilities in fighting Cell and the consequences of not trying. It just made so much more sense to me than the canon version.
Vegeta: boy, don't make me come up there and be a parent!!
Trunks: first time for everything dad!
Vegeta: OH HO HOOOO 😂😂😂
I love the siblings dynamic 17 and 18 have. It makes them seem closer but not out of character.
*”SSSSHHHIIIINNNN!!! KIKOOOOOOHHHHOOOOOOOOO!”*
“Aw that’s a adora-SHIIIIIIT”
"So I was hairs from perfection, until triclops comes along and decides to turn triangles into fucking squares!"
- Semi-perfect Cell
honestly, i feel like DBZA actually transcended beyond parody shortly after they finished the Saiyan Saga and their production quality ramped up dramatically. I see DBZA as more of a retelling of sorts. A parody makes fun of source material, and while DBZA does that a lot, it also does an equal amount of updates, corrections and vast improvements in areas where the original just doesn't hold up, which puts it squarely in the corner of "improved retelling" or even "a reboot" of sorts. While the original Dragon Ball anime will always have a spot in my heart, I enjoy DBZA more because in many respects, it is just better. It's more entertaining, more accessable to a casual audience, it has better writing, more developed characters, plotlines, better worldbuilding. It also adds numerous little things that weren't available in the original that just enrich the experience even more. I've reintroduced countless friends to Dragon Ball again, after not being able to enjoy the original as an adult, with DBZA and they fuckin loved it. I think that says something. When a parody has to ability to rekindle love for something you liked as a kid, as well as act as a genuine replacement for the show for a lot of people, you go well beyond "just another parody".
Side Note: I introduced my girlfriend to Dragon Ball with DBZA without her having any prior knowledge of the original shows. DBZA is what she thinks Dragon Ball actually is and I love it.
How is that possible? It says abridged before each episode. How would she not notice?
@@LordParticle People are oblivious🤷
DBZA and Red Vs Blue are quite similar, you'd probably agree if youve seen RVB, but its long and bingable so keep that in mind.
Your right honestly if you want a kind of refresher on the Z series I would recommend DBZA series a recommendation
or its just comedy that people who hate on dragonball like seeing cause they don't have time to watch the actual show..while fans can laugh at too and nostalgic fans can rewatch some scenes they remember in a new way..everyone wins....the actual dragonball series even gt and super aren't that bad...their actually good..the toriyama hate needs to stop..he wrote a fun adventure story about a kid turning into a man but is part alien that became a martial arts story that became a save the world superhero story yet still remained focused on this kid and his progression to his heritage...not sure why so many feel the need to nitpick it when its made for kids...have they seen some of the arcs..their amazing...people act like now its simple but for its time it wasn't...its not as formulaic as people claim either..stuff does happen and other characters matter...an important scene people tend to not mention in the series is krillin breaking the controller...or tien holding back cell..these are scenes that aren't needed yet are there to give relevance to them..18 kissing krillin comes out of nowhere...krillin not stepping in since he knows in the future he dies to them is even more in character than out since he is rational and while brave isn't stupid...hes like you know what they didn't kill anyone and they just want to go after goku so im gonna let them after telling them not to..
my favorite line from dbza is without question the little exchange trunks and perfect cell have while they're fighting. "And behind all that insufferable smarm is a dead man!" "Trunks, you can't fathom the amount of dead men behind me." My jaw literally dropped. to this day i still think episode 53 is one of the best ones they ever did, including the finale.
You just said that popo doesn't count...
You're gonna regret that
Seriously wtf. Popo is an OG
Pecking Order!
Hiiii
I know your singing about me maggots.
-Popo DBZA Popo the Genie
@@TheBanjoDuck Listen up maggots
Episode 34
*Trunks goes super saiyan*
Goku: "Whao, what hapened to your hair? It's Yellow"
Trunks: "So is yours"
Goku: "It is?"
😆😆😆😆
.....okay...? And how does this comment contribute to the subject of the video??
@@logan6034 It's only a line in the clip that was funny.
@@logan6034 I think it's a funny way to highlight the fact that it was never shown or explicitly said that Goku even knew what the transformation does outside the power boost before coming back to Earth. It relates to the video by being another change. A small one, but a change still.
Goku:what about me?
Trunks: You dont make it to the battle either, you die of heart failure the year before.
Goku: What? How?
Trunks: According to the Coroner, too much bacon.
*Goku turns Super Sayian*
"You take that back!"
😂😂😂😂😂
Crack up EVERYTIME.
"Vegeta what does the scouter say about his power level?" "Its...its...1006" "1006?"
"Wait Nappa i had the scouter up side down his power level is actually...
9001... Rar *Breaks scouter"
You left a bit out. After the "1006?" Vegeta: Yeah, go kick his ass" *Nappa getting pummeled* Vegeta: Wait a second..something's not right here"
@@neoanimefreak_7606 you missed a spot after the 1006 nappa says really and when he gets beat up he whattttttt I had it upside down
@@nikoquesada9739 XP
"Why do you sound so bored?!"
"Because, Nappa, he's not a threat--"
"Vegeta!"
"To me."
"9 minutes, 18 seconds"
My favorite change was that they made the most serious speeches better than the original show and since they were put into a comedic version of the show they carried mkre weight and the words hit a little harder
Yeah alot of the emotional bits were better. I was never as pumped for a next episode as when goku reaches namek in dbz abridged. The next time on dbz thing just isnt as good
DBZ Abridged...it's a hilarious parody, a clever critique, and loving tribute all-in-one.
TFS is the only team that does it well, everyone else are just swearing unnecessarily with bad voice acting. It's like TFS is George Miller, and every other Abridged teams are Michael Bay.
I think BlazingAzureCrow does pretty well with their stuff. Their Digimon Tri Abridged series, I enjoy it almost as much as I enjoy DBZA. And Unlimited Blade Works Abridged was also good.
SWE (Something Witty Entertainment) and TFS are hands down the two best groups out there who do abridges as they handle their shows like they are actual shows (now sure there are probably other good groups out there and TFS and SWE are not the only ones but they are 2 of the best and most well known.
I loved that at the beginning of dbza, king kai immediately referenced bojack is locked inside his planet. I like how the movies are canon to dbza.
Wait, does that mean we're gonna get a Bojack movie next? They just blew up his planet.
@@Glimare yeah. That and in the Broly movie goku said to gohan that his movie is next so yeah.
@@acedagreat25 wait, I could have sworn that there was a fan sub of the Bojack movie already?
except christmas tree of might. to quote vegeta 'this is so non-canon it hurts'
Are they really? I mean, they kinda fit into the canon timeline better, but not perfectly.
-Dead Zone is a story within the story, so it's okay that it doesn't match.
-World's Strongest doesn't really fit, as it has Goku with Kaoi-ken. This could only work after the Saiyan saga, but that has Goku injured until after Krillin and Gohan had left for Namek, so there is no spot in the timeline where we can insert it.
-The Christmas Tree of Might and Lord Slug are the same as above.
-Revenge of Cooler fits well in the beginning of the Android Saga, where they are preparing for them.
-The Return of Cooler is once again problematic, as it has SSJ Vegeta, and there is no point in time where there is a long enough lull in the action until the preparations to the Cell Games where they could leave for New Namek.
-Super Android 13 could, maybe, with some stretch, fit into the downtime during the Cell Games preparations.
-Broly fits pretty well during the Cell Games preparations.
-The Plan to Eradicate Christmas once again doesn't fit anywhere, since the Cell Games downtime is not during winter, while we would have no Goku and have SSJ2 Gohan after the Cell Saga.
I would rather say that the movies have their own canon that run in parallel with DBZA. In this timeline, Vegeta was beaten much quicker and easier, thus no injured Goku and less of a rush to Namek, allowing World's Strongest, The Christmas Tree of Might and Lord Slug to happen.
Lord Slug's appearance leads to the discovery of the location of Namek, so they leave there, where the Frieza Saga happens. However, Frieza gets beaten easier and Goku returns to Earth with the others. Cooler happens after this, then Trunks' warning about the Androids, then Return of Cooler. Afterwards the Androids are quickly beaten, but Cell is very late in this timeline, so there is a full year of lull.
During this time, Future Trunks stays around (in case there are other androids. :P), allowing Super Android 13 to happen. At the end of that movie, they find the hidden lab, but before blowing it up they learn about Cell. He is in hiding at this point, because he cannot just eat 17 and 18, so they know he is a threat but he is in the background, explaining how they have time for Gohan's college entrance and the wedding reception, and yet Trunks still calling after Vegeta because of Cell.
Now the aforementioned year of timeskip comes into the picture: Trunks stays around and trains with the others in preparation to whenever Cell would show himself, explaining the long hair, but they don't enter the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, and since there is no brutal pressure, he never unlocks SSJ1.2 or whatever. The same goes for Gohan; he unlocks SSJ naturally, but because in this continuity they never entered the HTC, he and Goku never gets to the point where they master it to the point where they stay like that 24/7. Then Broly happens, and he smacks them around because of all those missed trainings and powerups. :P
After this, The Plan to Eradicate Christmas happens, during which Cell uses the distraction to gather the Dragon Balls, wishes 17 and 18 back, only to eat them and becomes Perfect, then announces the Cell Games. Afterwards Goku and Gohan probably enters the HTC to master the SSJ form, then the rest of the Cell Saga plays out pretty much as seen in canon, leading into the upcoming Bojack movie.
I like the fact that when they were invited to cameo in DBZ Kai the Final Chapters, they essentially made it canon that Nappa came back and ended up working in Hollywood by using his voice for the actor that plays as Mr. Satan in the "movie" of how he beat Cell
fucking beautiful lol
I'm just glad they have such a good relationship. I feel like Akira was shown DBZA and he just loved the ever living shit out of it. Instead of being mad and like "how dare you steal my shit" he was probably smiling ear to ear with the interpretation these guys had of his show. It just makes me happy when things go the right way between the right people. Nintendo could learn a thing or two from this guy.
@@sunslap Gamefreak in particular imo
Hahaha for real
Too bad gokus english voice actor is a salty shitlord. Who said TFS were not real fans and were not protected under fair use because they wouldnt submit to toe and funimations dmca takedowns.
I greatly appreciate that DBZA and the spinoffs breathed life into characters otherwise long since abandoned. Yamcha forced to retire from his overly successful baseball career with a massive fortune. Nappa a Hollywood mogul and supportive mentor to Vegeta as a new father. Android 16 getting a happy, peaceful ending instead of the void. These characters are shown extra love, and it made them even more lovable.
anyone else got this on their recommended after TFS said they wont make DBZA anymore?
@Calvin Schuster Watch their video
@@olivergranviken5031 which one?
@@aangga.ranggasa I laughed at this response harder than I should have
They said they will not make any more D.B.Z.A but they did not say they will not continue d.b.a
Me😭😭😭
best change is still princess trunks
ALL HAIL PRINCESS TRUNKS
Lolx
WHERE BROLY'S WIFE!?
"Goku get me off of this planet right now I'm serious instant transmission!"
ALL HAIL PRINCESS TRUNKS
one brilliant change they made is the fact that every z warrior yells his attack when nutting
KA ME HA ME.... HAAAAAAA
SCATTER BULLET!!
Dieu De La Modestie MA-SEN-KOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
GALICK GUN FIRE!!!!!!!!!
It always bothered me how anti-climatic the original sex scenes were.
that weird moment when you realize the story and characterization in DBZA was closer to the source material than the "official dub" by Funimation.
Cell: "You think you're being Cute"
Vegeta: "Bitch, I'm Adorable!!"
Cell: "Oh hahaha! You think you're cute!?"
Trunks: "Bitch, I'm adorable!"
Ah yes, Princess Trunks
TFS has basically an editor's freedom while knowing the entirety of the plot prior to bringing it to life. Akira went more by the seat of his pants, but did a well enough job to keep us interested.
Meanwhile all this abridged videos are indangered and for every episode you increase your risk for getting sued because they are scared to loose content, while destroying people's interest because they are scared to loose content. Thank you toriyama
@@prometheus5218 You realize Toriyama isn't the one copyright claiming them, right? I mean, it's not as if Toei animation holds the copyright to the Dragon Ball anime and merchandise.
@@therighteously8454 r/whooosh
@@prometheus5218 r/fuckoff
Nail and Kami sticking with Piccolo is also a way to deal with his loneliness problem. Now he is never alone :D
I'd say his character development works better in DBZA, since he is set up as desperately lonely since chapter 1.
Krillin to Yamcha:
“When my girlfriend left, she took all MY money. When your girlfriend left, she took all HER money.”
Roshi: “Gonna need a senzu for that one.”
You missed my favorite - and what I think, best - change they made, though you might have deliberately not touched on it since it's in THE finale.
One of the pivotal end moments of the Cell saga is the Father/Son Kamehameha, which finishes off Cell. In the original, everyone fires energy at Cell from other angles to distract him and weaken his concentration, thus allowing Gohan's Kamehameha - amplified by Goku sending him energy from Otherworld - to destroy the evil bug man.
In Abridged, however, two major differences. One, the big one, Goku sends no energy, and his pep talk is about how Gohan alone can step up and take Cell, standing on his own two feet...which REALLY shows the 'passing of the torch' that part was meant to be. Second, ONLY Vegeta throws energy to distract Cell, which shows both part of his growth (willing to be an aid to someone else's victory, and his grief over Trunks) and the difference in how they've established everyone's strength.
Actually, the scene where everyone helps Gohan is anime exclusive, which is probably the reason why they didn't add it
And then he made goku the protagonist again
That's... not so much a change as a return to the manga. In it, Vegeta is indeed the only one to attack, and at no point is Goku implied to give Gohan extra energy beside motivational one.
Except that in the original, it was also only Gohan's power. Goku being there was just symbolic, he didn't do anything but give encouragement.
EAT THAT HORSE !!!!!!!!!