I have used the Bell Pitt Boss for the last few years and love it. Because of this review I decided to try a Gmax GM65. It was a very nice helmet but I did not like the fit at all. It sat very high on my head like a skull cap and wobbled from side to side on me. It left me with a very venerable feeling. Also as pointed out in the video the visor did not come down far enough for my liking either. As much as I liked how it looked and that the liner was removeable I sent it back and ordered a new Pitt Boss to replace my old one. To me it is a far superior helmet.
I have this debate with myself all the time. I own a Shoei full face, Bell Pit Boss (half helmet), Bell custom 500 (3 qtr.), and numerous others. I wouldn't ride a sport bike at the track, or my sport touring bike (Concours 14), with anything other than the full face. But when I'm on my Street Glide, I prefer the half or 3 qtr. unless it's very cold riding conditions. I know it makes no sense at all, the full face is the safest and most logical choice for all riding situations. But, it does detract from the riding experience on a cruiser IMHO.
Personally, I never wear a helmet in hot weather, wear a half helmet in cooler weather, and a full face helmet in cold weather. The truth is that on a hot day if I had to put on a helmet I wouldn't bother even getting on the motorcycle. I have survived 46 years of motorcycling using my own rule book and will continue to do so no matter what anyone else says. Motorcycling is inherently dangerous and there is absolutely no reason to do it except for the experience...so I dress for the ride and not the slide.
@@Angryegg387 Safety nuts like you shouldn't even sit on a motorcycle; drive a car instead with a nice solid roof, seat belts, and airbags. I also go skydiving for which there is NO effective safety equipment if my chute didn't open and I hit the ground at 120 mph, but I accept the risk and love it. If you wanna die in a hospital bed at 80 years-old, all eaten up with disease, and your mind gone, that's your choice. Myself? I will have options when I eventually face that fate. And we ALL will eventually face that, you too, if you don't die suddenly of a heart attack or stroke first. You're not going to get out of this world alive no matter how careful you are.
If you needed the same kind of helmet for all speeds then bicycle riders would be wearing Bell Stars. The faster you ride the more at risk riding styles, the better protection you need. I wear a Bell Revolver when going for the day on fast rides doing lots of curves, at higher speed, longer distance. better weather, sun, rain and head protection. Around town I use the helmet in the video the GMax, a high quality lid that is light, cool in hot weather, and a joy to wear, quick to get off and on and better visibility in traffic. I have fallen off bikes more than a few times and never landed on my face.
I wear the Harley rebranded Bell Pit boss and it is the most comfortable helmet I have ever owned. Makes day-long and multi-day touring much nicer. I also wear the Harley rebranded HJC modular helmet. Also good, better protection in the rain and cold, but bakes my head in the heat and it’s more confining.
Wow the comments are shitty. Here's what I'll say: Do what ever the fuck you want. You want to be more safe by wearing full face helmet? Go for it. Jaw injuries suck. You don't have to justify that to anyone. You want to go a little more raw with a half helmet? Go for it. To some it's worth it. The breeze is nice in a lot of areas. You don't have to justify that to anyone.
@@jacobarbez3214 fair enough, you're right. although i would point out that 40kph is still 25mph. that's fast for a bicycle. certainly at the weight of an adult, to hit a solid object at 40 kp, is ALOT of force
Never saw much use for a half helmet either, until.... I got a SxS, full cage and five point harness. When I go the King of the Hammers race Kalifornia requires helmets on every damn thing. I just bought a half helmet to ride around Hammer town, a full face is a pain in the ass in that situation. Picked up the GM65 for $50.
I crashed wearing a full face(Lady pulled out in front of me at 70 mph) Believe me you want one! The pavement ate up the chin bar of the helmet instead of my face!!
I was driven into by a Toyota Camry at a 90 degree angle while riding my bicycle on the way to work on April 2nd, 2015. I was wearing a Giro helmet. I suffered a severe head trauma which resulted in a brain injury. I spent 28 hours in the intensive care unit at San Francisco General Hospital. It took until October for my brain to return to normal. That was a fucked up 6 months for me. That helmet saved my life. But bicycle helmets only cover the head, not the face. My face sustained no damage at all. None.
Yes, dumbo, when you ride your super sport at 70mph or more, you want a full face helmet, leather, gloves, and whatnot. Me too. But when you ride your 50cc scooter at 25mph from the barn to the ice parlor at the corner of your lil' town, and it's 100+ degrees outside, you want to wear NO helmet at all. Since that's against the law where many of us live, we settle for the next best thing: a light half helmet. Its sole purpose is to be in compliance with the law, not to protect anything.
Just an update on rogue. That muzzle when placing it. You dont need to realign. Just stick it and it will attached. Compare when removing you have to re allign.
I used to be a full-face only kind of guy, but back in 1999 I took a motorcycle group tour in India. I knew it would be very hot, so I took a 3/4 helmet - and I was glad I did. When it's 40c and high humidity, you still sweat a lot in an open-face - you just sweat less than with a full-face. Use the right tool for the right job. There are hot summer days here in Canada where a 3/4- or a half-helmet actually does make a lot of sense, rather than baking your skull in a full-face.
I like the wider peripheral view factor of a half helmet in the city, you know, animals and kids suddenly darting from the side and such, but I wear full helmet when driving further, in faster traffic. I don't see the point of Bell Rogue though, you can get motorcycle masks that keep your face warm and bugs out of your mouth, which cost less - and are easily washable: buy two and you don't have to worry about waiting one to dry. Masks come with all sorts of cool designs as well. I wear wrap around sunglasses during the day but cannot find the same in clear glass so a clear visor would be really nice: nothing is worse than getting a bug or piece of rubbish in the eyes when driving and you cannot even stop to rub your eyes, until having navigated a junction of something like that... which doesn't even always help. And as much as I like the wind in my face, when it is raining and the raindrops feel like needles in your face, let alone when they hit your eyeball... Yes, a clear visor would be REALLY nice accessory for a half-helmet, because you can't always predict if you are coming home after dark; you'd have to carry TWO pairs of goggles/glasses with you every time, just in case. Not a problem if you have storage space in your bike but some models can just about store a driving licence. Mine cannot even be fitted with a box. Now, I met a young man from England who's face looked a bit odd. It turned out that he had been in an accident wearing a half helmet: he had already had a few operations and was on his way to have one more, to set his skull, and his eyes, right. I don't think he wore a helmet that complied with ANY kind of safety standard (there is none in this country I live now) but anyway, he swore that from now on he would only wear a full - face helmet from England...
FortNine, great review, you know your stuff and you present it well. I personally don't like the full face models,they feel restrictive and seem to limit your peripheral view. I don't catch much wind because I now ride a 'geezer Glide' 2016 Road Glide CVO. the half helmet with the pull down shield for rain works just fine. You next review should include the Voss DOT 888CF Bullet Cruiser Half Helmet, very light, comfortable and includes a drop down shield, as well. In my humble opinion, if you are riding fast and eat it, the difference between the full and half helmet is the difference between an 'open casket and a closed casket'. Apologies for the dark humor. All the best
well done its nice to see younger riders being honest useing education for explanation trying to get information from my fellow older theologens usealy ends with blaa blaa HARLEY rules there ideea of advice is based on there experance or a fellow rider who has had a bad experance and when it comes to helmets its an hour conversation about the RIGHT to ware one, well done be safe and thank you
As always: Good Job! Even with helmets?!? I see the comment regularly that this is the best Motorcycle related content on YT but after nearly exhausting your library I am convinced you have the best "Do-It-Yourself" content on the Inter-Web! I watch everything from Auto-Centric to Xylophone Repair and Race/All Terrain/Off Road/4X4 to DIY of every topic and I do not see the consistent high quality and creative thoughtfulness of F9. Nobody, Nowhere, Knowhow. I will shut up now and start at the top. Thanks for the great Videos and for sharing your talents.
I prefer a half helmet for use in town, where traffic is heavy and speeds are low, up to 30 or 40 mph..... unimpaired hearing and peripheral vision are a big plus for avoiding accidents. However, on the open road out of town, at higher speeds more coverage is more comfortable, and safer.
I wear a modular. Best of both worlds. However, it amazes me all the people on the roads and highways on bicycles . Some move pretty quick, and close to speeding cars. Skinny tires, spandex, crazy helmets, no lights, no horn, weak brakes.
A decent road bike is going to cost you at least 5 grand there's nothing cheap about the brakes on them, everyone i know that has lights on their bikes, i totally get the helmet thing i'm amazed at the lack of tech development, but there open because they require you to generate the power. you should look at FortNine's testing of 1 of the top of the line modular helmets the neotec, the side impact on the helmet kills you and the front hit to the chin bar shatters the chin bar, basically what i'm saying is your wearing a half helmet you just don't realise it.
If you wreck on a bicycle, people will pat you on the back for being environmentally correct. If you wreck on a motorcycle, people tell you they think you got what you deserved for riding such a dangerous contraption. It's a serious double standard.
F9; thanks for all the great content. I normally wear full gear when I ride (to/bottom, kilimanjaro, and neotec 2). That being said, sometimes I go around the corner to the grocery store. Would a helmet that comes down on the sides (but still lacks the front that a full face has) be any safer, or is a half the same as that type (from a safety perspective)?
Full face > modular helmet > open face aka 3/4 face helmet > half helmet. Personally, I wouldn't buy a half helmet. If you just want to go to the store, get a 3/4 helmet.
@@scpower I don't have a bicycle. But funny you should ask, a few weeks ago I saw a video of a mountain biker saving his face from a crash by wearing a full face helmet.
I always wore full face but would borrow my brother's 3/4 for the backroads sometimes. I have gone without a helmet a few times but not often. I have never been brave enough to rock a half helmet.
What about a helmet review just for suburban/city scooter riders who don't go onto highways etc and don't reach those speeds. I'm looking at food deliveries and don't need/want something I have to be taking on and off all day long because it hides my face, but I need a full face pull down visor. Plus, this is 7 years old now.
The same physics apply to all of us. YOU have to decide what YOUR risks are, and balance that against comfort and convenience. A full helmet protects better than a half. There are full face helmets that allow the whole front to lift up for talking/eating/smoking. Search for "modular" helmets. They're not cheap, but it'd cover your needs the best IMO. Ryan's videos have become epic in the last 7yrs. Enjoy the evolution. ;)
BELL ROGUE the mussle is really easy to put in ... you just need to put it in front and magnet to the rest you only need to remove it by passing over the magnet this is made for dont loose it easealy
Here you can buy scull caps: they only protect you if you land on top of your head like a bullet and even then a bicycle helmet is much safer, but as any helmet will do to keep the police fining you on the spot... :p
In my country, unless we are talking about couriers (who are insane fast and reckless), most squids on crotch rockets actually end up being middle aged men in existential crysis, after their kids are old enough that they don't need the minivan anymore. Those rich enough get an R1200GS and solve the problem more politely, ATGATT brigade. The poorer ones get a 2nd hand completely f'ed up 900RR Fireblade and pretend that they are "cool" at the top of their 40 years old, giving up middle fingers on the highway at 150km/h to people who don't let them lane filter and making us see their butt crack by riding with the short track day leather jacket on a full tuck. Millenials are usually driving a 125cc to their unpaid internship in the safest jacket they could buy, barely reaching 50km/h - because petrol is expensive, ofc. I know for a fact that as a female 27 years old bike enthusiast (buying my first bike this week, an NC700x), I'm actually the exception among people my age.
I have the Bell Rogue and have used it for the last 8-9 months. Been hit in the face by bugs and rocks (live in FL) and never had an issues. Looks badass and is comfortable to wear for longer cruises, even in the summer heat.
I think there needs to be more info about the aesthetics, comfort and fitment. Some of these helmet have a straight line edge that run along the temple and over the ear. Some are contoured around the ear and then some cover the ear. The ones that cover the ear have a more bulgy look, and I'm not even sure why brands bothered making them, since they're basically a 3/4 helmet. Removable padding is a big consideration, imo.
I use a half helmet. Less wind noise, more awareness of the environment around you. Lots of noise in a full helmet because your head is placed in a cathedral environment. Noise resinates throughout it. Like putting your ear to a sea shell. It's a noise magnet. This noise is a distraction you don't need. Yes a full face is preparing you for a crash. It's no wonder, you can't hear and vision is restricted.
The Bell Rouge looks great but starts to fall apart in 6 months. The faux leather on the neck pad starts to flake off after use. Bell sells washable liners but not neck pads! I have an expensive helmet that look like sh*t now!
I ride a Harley, and I ride it all over the south and southwest U.S.. I take trips anywhere from 3 days to 14 days as often as I can. I wear a half helmet most of the time especially on short rides or around town. I carry a 3/4 helmet with a face shield on the trips in case of rain. I wear a helmet even in states that do not require it. These are what I choose to wear and I am comfortable with the risk. You wear what you want to wear and let everybody else wear, or not wear, what they want. That is part of the "freedom" we claim to enjoy as bikers. You people need to get off the soapbox telling everyone else how stupid they are. It is just your opinion,, and just your head. Let everybody else worry about theirs. And remember, in all your self righteousness, there are way more people out there who don't ride, who hate motorcycles and the people who ride them and they all think all of us are stupid and don't deserve to be on the road no matter what kind of protective gear we could wear.
sometimes people need to be told how stupid they are, so they can see for themselves and correct their stupidity, If they choose to continue, it just shows their level of stupidity was too excessive to correct. Yeah you keep on keeping on fucking around without a helmet or with a half helmet. Also post pics when you crash.
I agree with what you are saying. Choice of helmet is a combination of what your own risk analysis is and whether emphasis is on avoidance or collision damage minimisation. Personally I emphasise hazard avoidance and hazard mitigation, which relies upon maximum vision, hearing and 100% concentration. This also requires maximum peripheral vision which some helmets restrict. I used to wear a full face back in the day, but found that when I took to riding less sporty bikes and sat upright my peripheral vision was compromised by the full face. Safety is a combination of many factors and personal strategies and not just the helmet and clothing
If you think a helmet is a save all piece of equipment you are wrong. I wear a helmet, leather coat, boots, and chaps, but that is my choice. I have been riding for over 50 years and have had a number of crashes because of someone else. Did my helmet save me, maybe, but one time it came off as I slid down the highway and I survived because of my heavy leather coat. My full dressed Harley-Davidson probably did more to lessen my injuries then my helmet ever did. I retook two motorcycle education classes, just to make sure I remember good riding techniques, one advance rider two wheel and one three wheel class. Those will help save a rider too and probably are more helpful in the long run. Unless you have at least 50,000 miles on a motorcycle, you should not be throwing insults at people who choose to wear a half helmet or no helmet. I agree with jcf1057, to each their own.
They are vastly more comfortable than a full face shield. Many people feel if they get in a motorcycle accident they're as good as dead anyway so what use is there protecting your face when your guts are going to be splattered on the highway. Even a half shell helmet is still designed in such a way that your face itself should be elevated from the ground if you go sliding off your bike. The sides of the helmet will grind against the pavement keeping your chin and cheeks an inch or so away. Imagine laying down on the floor with this helmet on, the helmet would touch the floor first and your face would be suspended in the air. Also there are a few reported instances of a full face helmet getting caught on something during a wreck and ripping your entire head off or snapping your neck, whereas a half shell helmet is likely not to get caught on anything. Most motorcycle accidents involve other cars, not the rider just falling off his bike for some reason. If you avoid traffic, ride in low congestion areas, take rural country roads etc you will enjoy a half shell much more and be risking very little. If you ride in the cities or on the freeway a lot then you'd probably want a full face helmet to protect yourself from stupid car drivers and debris on the road getting kicked up into your face.
What would anyone ride an engine strapped to two wheels! You're either stupid or playing stupid. You know perfectly well why someone would use one. If you don't agree that's perfectly ok, but don't feign idiocy about it. Oh nvm, I took a look at your channel. You ARE actually stupid. All is forgiven.
I just saw a video on live leak of a guy who was wearing a half helmet had gotten his jaw completely ripped off. Boy was that a sight to see. Let that be a lesson
Well, personally, I would never use a half helmet or a three-quarter helmet for me. It’s full face all the way hell I only have one helmet so even if I was riding my bicycle, I would be wearing my full face because that’s all I got, and it would definitely do the job
Sorry i disagree .the Bell is in every way superior lining and fit .Also the GM 65 drop down visor is useless it does not come down low enough and the lining falls apart in no time ..spend your money on the Bell
Would rather not wear a half helmet, but I have to have one in order to fit under my vespa seat on the 1 mile ride to the beach to go surf! Too bad the vespas don't have enough room for a full helmet
I had one years ago and man I hated it because once I started going, the damn air would ketch the visor and pull my head back. It had an adjustable visor but it didn't matter. Still sucked. Plus, I wasn't comfortable not having my whole face protected. Good review though.
My half helmet use is only for rides under freeway speeds commuting back and forth from work in light traffic. All the preaching about helmet safety is presumptuous if you consider PPE is a personal choice and riding at all means you too have opted for fun over safety to some degree.
No doubt a full face helmet is much safer. But the riding experience pales in comparison to a half helmet. "...you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do you, punk?"
Obviously you did not land face first onto the road - so you were lucky - you can walk across the street against the red light too - but some day it will backfire.
Are these the best half helmets, your favorite half helmets, or a paid advertisement for half helmets? Why wasn't a Seer included if it was a best half helmet video, as the title stipulates?
I wore a Seer for years on the job, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen one on a civilian head in the wild. Presumably, the relatively high price and low general market penetration keep it off the reviewers radar.
Half helmets are good for bicycles riders. I mean, safety aside, when was the last time you (say a dude), thought, "wow, that guy really looks cool in that half helmet cruising down the street?" Well... maybe, but not me. Protect your melon. Insurance rates will drop!
Fact: There are more motorcycle crashes among crotch rocket riders with full face helmets then riders with a half shell helmet riding a cruiser motorcycle. I see it all the time working with the highway patrol.
Lightning Brigade Primary reason: Sport bike riders ride more aggressively in almost all occasions. No surprise there. But as a cruiser rider myself, I'd STILL prefer a full face over a brain bucket any day. But I'm no "Gear Nazi" so I don't judge anyone for what they wear on a ride.
That is just is an excuse for you to justify not wearing a full face helmet. I live in north Texas. Summer temps frequently hit 100F. Then I ride Out West where it gets REALLY hot.
I don’t enjoy riding a motorcycle with my face baking in a helmet in 95 degrees. If I’m not going to enjoy myself then there is no point in riding. 100 people a day die in car accidents. 18 people a day die on motorcycles. Yes I know there are way more cars on the road than motorcycles. But the point is the road is deadly no matter what you’re in or on. I’m way more likely to die on a bike that’s for sure..but I’m also way more cautious. I’ll take my chances in return for the enjoyment.
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I have used the Bell Pitt Boss for the last few years and love it. Because of this review I decided to try a Gmax GM65. It was a very nice helmet but I did not like the fit at all. It sat very high on my head like a skull cap and wobbled from side to side on me. It left me with a very venerable feeling. Also as pointed out in the video the visor did not come down far enough for my liking either. As much as I liked how it looked and that the liner was removeable I sent it back and ordered a new Pitt Boss to replace my old one. To me it is a far superior helmet.
I have this debate with myself all the time. I own a Shoei full face, Bell Pit Boss (half helmet), Bell custom 500 (3 qtr.), and numerous others. I wouldn't ride a sport bike at the track, or my sport touring bike (Concours 14), with anything other than the full face. But when I'm on my Street Glide, I prefer the half or 3 qtr. unless it's very cold riding conditions. I know it makes no sense at all, the full face is the safest and most logical choice for all riding situations. But, it does detract from the riding experience on a cruiser IMHO.
true. I have full and 3/4 face. I use both equally I guess. But the full face has better protection.
Agree, if all your worried about is safety, drive a car.
Personally, I never wear a helmet in hot weather, wear a half helmet in cooler weather, and a full face helmet in cold weather. The truth is that on a hot day if I had to put on a helmet I wouldn't bother even getting on the motorcycle. I have survived 46 years of motorcycling using my own rule book and will continue to do so no matter what anyone else says. Motorcycling is inherently dangerous and there is absolutely no reason to do it except for the experience...so I dress for the ride and not the slide.
@@CaneFu my grandad used to say something similar about not wearing a seatbelt.. and then he he got flung through the wind shield...
@@Angryegg387 Safety nuts like you shouldn't even sit on a motorcycle; drive a car instead with a nice solid roof, seat belts, and airbags. I also go skydiving for which there is NO effective safety equipment if my chute didn't open and I hit the ground at 120 mph, but I accept the risk and love it. If you wanna die in a hospital bed at 80 years-old, all eaten up with disease, and your mind gone, that's your choice. Myself? I will have options when I eventually face that fate. And we ALL will eventually face that, you too, if you don't die suddenly of a heart attack or stroke first. You're not going to get out of this world alive no matter how careful you are.
If you needed the same kind of helmet for all speeds then bicycle riders would be wearing Bell Stars. The faster you ride the more at risk riding styles, the better protection you need. I wear a Bell Revolver when going for the day on fast rides doing lots of curves, at higher speed, longer distance. better weather, sun, rain and head protection. Around town I use the helmet in the video the GMax, a high quality lid that is light, cool in hot weather, and a joy to wear, quick to get off and on and better visibility in traffic. I have fallen off bikes more than a few times and never landed on my face.
I wear the Harley rebranded Bell Pit boss and it is the most comfortable helmet I have ever owned. Makes day-long and multi-day touring much nicer. I also wear the Harley rebranded HJC modular helmet. Also good, better protection in the rain and cold, but bakes my head in the heat and it’s more confining.
I love all of the crotch rocket writers who wouldn’t dare buy a half helmet but they’ll do 187 mph through downtown streets doing wheelies.
We love you too
You made a good point but it’s 189MPH
Wow the comments are shitty.
Here's what I'll say:
Do what ever the fuck you want.
You want to be more safe by wearing full face helmet? Go for it. Jaw injuries suck. You don't have to justify that to anyone.
You want to go a little more raw with a half helmet? Go for it. To some it's worth it. The breeze is nice in a lot of areas. You don't have to justify that to anyone.
Had an accident with the Pit Boss. It worked however I did still hit my right cheek bone on the A pillar. Luckily I was only going 40 kph.
@@scpower ummm no. a bicycle doesn't do 40mph. that's nuts. most bicycles are going to max out around 15-20 mph
@@cheezyridrhe said 40 kph not mph what are you talking about
@@jacobarbez3214 fair enough, you're right. although i would point out that 40kph is still 25mph. that's fast for a bicycle. certainly at the weight of an adult, to hit a solid object at 40 kp, is ALOT of force
Never saw much use for a half helmet either, until.... I got a SxS, full cage and five point harness. When I go the King of the Hammers race Kalifornia requires helmets on every damn thing. I just bought a half helmet to ride around Hammer town, a full face is a pain in the ass in that situation. Picked up the GM65 for $50.
Cool I just bought a gm65, glad to see you recommend it
is it good for oval head shape?
I crashed wearing a full face(Lady pulled out in front of me at 70 mph) Believe me you want one! The pavement ate up the chin bar of the helmet instead of my face!!
OUCH. I think that half-helmets are fine, for riding around the town.
I was driven into by a Toyota Camry at a 90 degree angle while riding my bicycle on the way to work on April 2nd, 2015. I was wearing a Giro helmet. I suffered a severe head trauma which resulted in a brain injury. I spent 28 hours in the intensive care unit at San Francisco General Hospital. It took until October for my brain to return to normal. That was a fucked up 6 months for me. That helmet saved my life. But bicycle helmets only cover the head, not the face. My face sustained no damage at all. None.
Yes, dumbo, when you ride your super sport at 70mph or more, you want a full face helmet, leather, gloves, and whatnot. Me too.
But when you ride your 50cc scooter at 25mph from the barn to the ice parlor at the corner of your lil' town, and it's 100+ degrees outside, you want to wear NO helmet at all. Since that's against the law where many of us live, we settle for the next best thing: a light half helmet. Its sole purpose is to be in compliance with the law, not to protect anything.
@@CalClassix what the fuck. Are you actually claiming you would not wear a helmet at all in this situation if it was allowed?
@@CalClassix eating the pavement at 25 mph is still gonna fuck your face up pretty bad
Just an update on rogue. That muzzle when placing it. You dont need to realign. Just stick it and it will attached. Compare when removing you have to re allign.
I used to be a full-face only kind of guy, but back in 1999 I took a motorcycle group tour in India. I knew it would be very hot, so I took a 3/4 helmet - and I was glad I did. When it's 40c and high humidity, you still sweat a lot in an open-face - you just sweat less than with a full-face.
Use the right tool for the right job. There are hot summer days here in Canada where a 3/4- or a half-helmet actually does make a lot of sense, rather than baking your skull in a full-face.
I HAVE THE HJC IS CRUISER...LOVE EM...GREAT HELMET...LOVE THE PULLDOWN VISOR..
Half helmet product links and timestamps:
0:27 - Bell Pit Boss: frt9.co/5h28nf
1:45 - GMax GM65: frt9.co/z8xpbf
2:39 - Bell Rogue: frt9.co/k7boih
4:05 - HJC CS-2N Helmet: frt9.co/4xbiir
I'm going to be transparent, you seem like a tool.
BEST HALF HELMET = NO HALF HELMET
Half helmet better than no helmet
Half helmet=half a helmet : ))))))))
I like the wider peripheral view factor of a half helmet in the city, you know, animals and kids suddenly darting from the side and such, but I wear full helmet when driving further, in faster traffic. I don't see the point of Bell Rogue though, you can get motorcycle masks that keep your face warm and bugs out of your mouth, which cost less - and are easily washable: buy two and you don't have to worry about waiting one to dry. Masks come with all sorts of cool designs as well.
I wear wrap around sunglasses during the day but cannot find the same in clear glass so a clear visor would be really nice: nothing is worse than getting a bug or piece of rubbish in the eyes when driving and you cannot even stop to rub your eyes, until having navigated a junction of something like that... which doesn't even always help. And as much as I like the wind in my face, when it is raining and the raindrops feel like needles in your face, let alone when they hit your eyeball... Yes, a clear visor would be REALLY nice accessory for a half-helmet, because you can't always predict if you are coming home after dark; you'd have to carry TWO pairs of goggles/glasses with you every time, just in case. Not a problem if you have storage space in your bike but some models can just about store a driving licence. Mine cannot even be fitted with a box.
Now, I met a young man from England who's face looked a bit odd. It turned out that he had been in an accident wearing a half helmet: he had already had a few operations and was on his way to have one more, to set his skull, and his eyes, right. I don't think he wore a helmet that complied with ANY kind of safety standard (there is none in this country I live now) but anyway, he swore that from now on he would only wear a full - face helmet from England...
pit boss offers a clear shield as an after market purchase.
The helmet has a really nice design and I like the fit! Perfect for me.
I have that HJC helmet. No complaints with it.
FortNine, great review, you know your stuff and you present it well. I personally don't like the full face models,they feel restrictive and seem to limit your peripheral view. I don't catch much wind because I now ride a 'geezer Glide' 2016 Road Glide CVO. the half helmet with the pull down shield for rain works just fine. You next review should include the Voss DOT 888CF Bullet Cruiser Half Helmet, very light, comfortable and includes a drop down shield, as well. In my humble opinion, if you are riding fast and eat it, the difference between the full and half helmet is the difference between an 'open casket and a closed casket'. Apologies for the dark humor. All the best
Clayton Pulley ....... I am with you. That is why I got the Bell Bullet.
Nice full face with relatively huge visibility
John LeBaron open casket ✔️
I feel a good review video would be to do some on these low profile "smallest legal helmet" type helmets
Smallest legal size of brain needed for ride mc you said?!?!?
well done its nice to see younger riders being honest useing education for explanation trying to get information from my fellow older theologens usealy ends with blaa blaa HARLEY rules there ideea of advice is based on there experance or a fellow rider who has had a bad experance and when it comes to helmets its an hour conversation about the RIGHT to ware one,
well done
be safe
and thank you
As always: Good Job! Even with helmets?!? I see the comment regularly that this is the best Motorcycle related content on YT but after nearly exhausting your library I am convinced you have the best "Do-It-Yourself" content on the Inter-Web! I watch everything from Auto-Centric to Xylophone Repair and Race/All Terrain/Off Road/4X4 to DIY of every topic and I do not see the consistent high quality and creative thoughtfulness of F9. Nobody, Nowhere, Knowhow. I will shut up now and start at the top. Thanks for the great Videos and for sharing your talents.
Joffrey Baratheon's long lost brother selling half helmets lol!
I prefer a half helmet for use in town, where traffic is heavy and speeds are low, up to 30 or 40 mph..... unimpaired hearing and peripheral vision are a big plus for avoiding accidents. However, on the open road out of town, at higher speeds more coverage is more comfortable, and safer.
Bell Pit Boss has an optional clear visor for about $8
I wear a modular. Best of both worlds.
However, it amazes me all the people on the roads and highways on bicycles . Some move pretty quick, and close to speeding cars. Skinny tires, spandex, crazy helmets, no lights, no horn, weak brakes.
A decent road bike is going to cost you at least 5 grand there's nothing cheap about the brakes on them, everyone i know that has lights on their bikes, i totally get the helmet thing i'm amazed at the lack of tech development, but there open because they require you to generate the power. you should look at FortNine's testing of 1 of the top of the line modular helmets the neotec, the side impact on the helmet kills you and the front hit to the chin bar shatters the chin bar, basically what i'm saying is your wearing a half helmet you just don't realise it.
If you wreck on a bicycle, people will pat you on the back for being environmentally correct.
If you wreck on a motorcycle, people tell you they think you got what you deserved for riding such a dangerous contraption.
It's a serious double standard.
I wear a half helmet with ear muffs. So nice and quiet. And my ears are always warm.
F9; thanks for all the great content. I normally wear full gear when I ride (to/bottom, kilimanjaro, and neotec 2). That being said, sometimes I go around the corner to the grocery store. Would a helmet that comes down on the sides (but still lacks the front that a full face has) be any safer, or is a half the same as that type (from a safety perspective)?
Full face > modular helmet > open face aka 3/4 face helmet > half helmet. Personally, I wouldn't buy a half helmet. If you just want to go to the store, get a 3/4 helmet.
@@scpower I don't have a bicycle. But funny you should ask, a few weeks ago I saw a video of a mountain biker saving his face from a crash by wearing a full face helmet.
I always wore full face but would borrow my brother's 3/4 for the backroads sometimes. I have gone without a helmet a few times but not often. I have never been brave enough to rock a half helmet.
What about a helmet review just for suburban/city scooter riders who don't go onto highways etc and don't reach those speeds. I'm looking at food deliveries and don't need/want something I have to be taking on and off all day long because it hides my face, but I need a full face pull down visor. Plus, this is 7 years old now.
The same physics apply to all of us. YOU have to decide what YOUR risks are, and balance that against comfort and convenience. A full helmet protects better than a half. There are full face helmets that allow the whole front to lift up for talking/eating/smoking. Search for "modular" helmets. They're not cheap, but it'd cover your needs the best IMO. Ryan's videos have become epic in the last 7yrs. Enjoy the evolution. ;)
Haha he's presentation style was so much more different and plain and straight forward than what it is today
BELL ROGUE
the mussle is really easy to put in ... you just need to put it in front and magnet to the rest you only need to remove it by passing over the magnet this is made for dont loose it easealy
The reason I wear a full helmet with face shield because I've had huge bugs and rocks hit the shield right in front of my face.
Hi, which model is good for oval headshape? Pit boss is not available in Europe so maybe the rest..
Hi I know you don't like half helmets do you recommend a bluetooth for them
Thank you sir for the review. 👌🏾👍🏾
Best “half” helmet? Maybe for walking in a construction site, not riding a bike
Nobody cares
What about scorpions exo compat and shark drak ?
Thanks saves me a lot of leg work
Nice review, I like your style of helmets.
Depends where you live. The hjc IS cruiser is much better. I've owned both.
The lens on my Pit Boss rests on my nose. How do I make it taller?
Regards, Ralph
Nicely done Ryan
Damn I don't even like half helmets, but the quality of each video you guys put up is amazing. Keep up the awesome work and reviews ❤️
Here you can buy scull caps: they only protect you if you land on top of your head like a bullet and even then a bicycle helmet is much safer, but as any helmet will do to keep the police fining you on the spot... :p
millenials are very particular about protection and gear. wheelies and triple digit speeds in the city are perfectly fine though.
M Nabavi I'm 28, I'm safety conscious and IL tear into any idiot riding that stupid.
M Nabavi ....... LOL
brandon you are the exception to the rule.
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In my country, unless we are talking about couriers (who are insane fast and reckless), most squids on crotch rockets actually end up being middle aged men in existential crysis, after their kids are old enough that they don't need the minivan anymore. Those rich enough get an R1200GS and solve the problem more politely, ATGATT brigade. The poorer ones get a 2nd hand completely f'ed up 900RR Fireblade and pretend that they are "cool" at the top of their 40 years old, giving up middle fingers on the highway at 150km/h to people who don't let them lane filter and making us see their butt crack by riding with the short track day leather jacket on a full tuck.
Millenials are usually driving a 125cc to their unpaid internship in the safest jacket they could buy, barely reaching 50km/h - because petrol is expensive, ofc. I know for a fact that as a female 27 years old bike enthusiast (buying my first bike this week, an NC700x), I'm actually the exception among people my age.
That muzzle half helmet looked cool, but ill stick with my shoei qwest
The Shoei Qwest is a handsome lid.
I have the Bell Rogue and have used it for the last 8-9 months. Been hit in the face by bugs and rocks (live in FL) and never had an issues. Looks badass and is comfortable to wear for longer cruises, even in the summer heat.
Hjc by virtue of the fact that it's the only helmet in this group with ventilation.Huge oversight by the other makers.
Any of these can fit in Harley's touring stretched bags?
Super seer best half helmet!
How well does it adapt to the unclear system?
I wear my LS2 Rebellion while Door Dashing on my Honda CT125 Trail.
My Shoei modular on the Goldwing and RE Interceptor.
The cinch design is from construction hard hats
I think there needs to be more info about the aesthetics, comfort and fitment. Some of these helmet have a straight line edge that run along the temple and over the ear. Some are contoured around the ear and then some cover the ear. The ones that cover the ear have a more bulgy look, and I'm not even sure why brands bothered making them, since they're basically a 3/4 helmet. Removable padding is a big consideration, imo.
I use a half helmet. Less wind noise, more awareness of the environment around you. Lots of noise in a full helmet because your head is placed in a cathedral environment. Noise resinates throughout it. Like putting your ear to a sea shell. It's a noise magnet. This noise is a distraction you don't need. Yes a full face is preparing you for a crash. It's no wonder, you can't hear and vision is restricted.
Anyone know if the gm65 shield will work with glasses on?
I only wear this type when doing food delivery on my Honda 250 Reflex scooter.
Half helmet is really for my 50cc brothers
I can get an ECE full face for $90 and now you're telling me there are half helmets for $300?!
Make no sense
@@victorymanifesto3953 it makes sense if you slap a Harley sticker on it lol.
Your links to the products are broken
The Bell Rouge looks great but starts to fall apart in 6 months. The faux leather on the neck pad starts to flake off after use. Bell sells washable liners but not neck pads! I have an expensive helmet that look like sh*t now!
Educational video. What NOT TO BUY...
I ride a Harley, and I ride it all over the south and southwest U.S.. I take trips anywhere from 3 days to 14 days as often as I can. I wear a half helmet most of the time especially on short rides or around town. I carry a 3/4 helmet with a face shield on the trips in case of rain. I wear a helmet even in states that do not require it. These are what I choose to wear and I am comfortable with the risk. You wear what you want to wear and let everybody else wear, or not wear, what they want. That is part of the "freedom" we claim to enjoy as bikers. You people need to get off the soapbox telling everyone else how stupid they are. It is just your opinion,, and just your head. Let everybody else worry about theirs. And remember, in all your self righteousness, there are way more people out there who don't ride, who hate motorcycles and the people who ride them and they all think all of us are stupid and don't deserve to be on the road no matter what kind of protective gear we could wear.
True....but also triggered! :) Also, WE CARE ABOUT YOUR HEAD TOO YOU"RE AH UMAN BEING WE DON"T WANAN SEE YOU GET HURT!
When you get your jaw ripped off and your face scraped off remember this comment.
sometimes people need to be told how stupid they are, so they can see for themselves and correct their stupidity, If they choose to continue, it just shows their level of stupidity was too excessive to correct. Yeah you keep on keeping on fucking around without a helmet or with a half helmet. Also post pics when you crash.
I agree with what you are saying. Choice of helmet is a combination of what your own risk analysis is and whether emphasis is on avoidance or collision damage minimisation. Personally I emphasise hazard avoidance and hazard mitigation, which relies upon maximum vision, hearing and 100% concentration. This also requires maximum peripheral vision which some helmets restrict. I used to wear a full face back in the day, but found that when I took to riding less sporty bikes and sat upright my peripheral vision was compromised by the full face.
Safety is a combination of many factors and personal strategies and not just the helmet and clothing
If you think a helmet is a save all piece of equipment you are wrong. I wear a helmet, leather coat, boots, and chaps, but that is my choice. I have been riding for over 50 years and have had a number of crashes because of someone else. Did my helmet save me, maybe, but one time it came off as I slid down the highway and I survived because of my heavy leather coat. My full dressed Harley-Davidson probably did more to lessen my injuries then my helmet ever did. I retook two motorcycle education classes, just to make sure I remember good riding techniques, one advance rider two wheel and one three wheel class. Those will help save a rider too and probably are more helpful in the long run. Unless you have at least 50,000 miles on a motorcycle, you should not be throwing insults at people who choose to wear a half helmet or no helmet. I agree with jcf1057, to each their own.
why would anyone use half helmets???
how safe is that.
They are vastly more comfortable than a full face shield. Many people feel if they get in a motorcycle accident they're as good as dead anyway so what use is there protecting your face when your guts are going to be splattered on the highway. Even a half shell helmet is still designed in such a way that your face itself should be elevated from the ground if you go sliding off your bike. The sides of the helmet will grind against the pavement keeping your chin and cheeks an inch or so away. Imagine laying down on the floor with this helmet on, the helmet would touch the floor first and your face would be suspended in the air.
Also there are a few reported instances of a full face helmet getting caught on something during a wreck and ripping your entire head off or snapping your neck, whereas a half shell helmet is likely not to get caught on anything.
Most motorcycle accidents involve other cars, not the rider just falling off his bike for some reason. If you avoid traffic, ride in low congestion areas, take rural country roads etc you will enjoy a half shell much more and be risking very little. If you ride in the cities or on the freeway a lot then you'd probably want a full face helmet to protect yourself from stupid car drivers and debris on the road getting kicked up into your face.
ur guts wont be splatterd on the road if u put the right safety gear..
If you hit a telephone pole at 60 mph or have a headon collision with a car no amount of gear will protect you.
What would anyone ride an engine strapped to two wheels! You're either stupid or playing stupid. You know perfectly well why someone would use one. If you don't agree that's perfectly ok, but don't feign idiocy about it. Oh nvm, I took a look at your channel. You ARE actually stupid. All is forgiven.
yossi4652 Idiot
I just saw a video on live leak of a guy who was wearing a half helmet had gotten his jaw completely ripped off. Boy was that a sight to see. Let that be a lesson
I was going to buy a half helmet, tnx.
HJC downright best bang for bucket, over pretty much all of the categories.
What is a sunpeek? I call it a visor. The Pit Boss is a great helmet. It has a better sunpeek. lol
A sunpeak isn't a visor.
Well, personally, I would never use a half helmet or a three-quarter helmet for me. It’s full face all the way hell I only have one helmet so even if I was riding my bicycle, I would be wearing my full face because that’s all I got, and it would definitely do the job
Sorry i disagree .the Bell is in every way superior lining and fit .Also the GM 65 drop down visor is useless it does not come down low enough and the lining falls apart in no time ..spend your money on the Bell
Would rather not wear a half helmet, but I have to have one in order to fit under my vespa seat on the 1 mile ride to the beach to go surf! Too bad the vespas don't have enough room for a full helmet
Get a Vespa top box,full face fit in them.
No headshot of the cs2n 🤷🏽♂️
Price kitna hai..bhai
Was in a pretty serious accident wearing a basic $50 DOT half. Saved my noodle and no face damage either. They work.
Gr8 review as always. You're very generous for doing so much for no money.
I had one years ago and man I hated it because once I started going, the damn air would ketch the visor and pull my head back. It had an adjustable visor but it didn't matter. Still sucked. Plus, I wasn't comfortable not having my whole face protected. Good review though.
half helmets are fine as long as you have a windshield but no shield and your hitting bugs and rocks
they're also fine if you're okay with the idea of having no jaw
This video talked me out of the half helmet, thanks.
I only use a half helmet when im driving my car. When im on my bike i use full face
My half helmet use is only for rides under freeway speeds commuting back and forth from work in light traffic. All the preaching about helmet safety is presumptuous if you consider PPE is a personal choice and riding at all means you too have opted for fun over safety to some degree.
No doubt a full face helmet is much safer. But the riding experience pales in comparison to a half helmet. "...you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do you, punk?"
Very good
Soup bowls [ half helmets ] are ridiculous and no protection
It kept MY head safe when I had an accident.
Obviously you did not land face first onto the road - so you were lucky - you can walk across the street against the red light too - but some day it will backfire.
If safety is your main concern why do you even ride a bike?
I like open face helmet for daily ride
I like half head helmet .
Crazy Al’s is the best for my opinion, also endorsed by state troopers.
Nice video however, Bell pit boss is $129.00 not $185.00😉
This video was made over 3 years ago
you really look like Stipe Miocic
Are these the best half helmets, your favorite half helmets, or a paid advertisement for half helmets? Why wasn't a Seer included if it was a best half helmet video, as the title stipulates?
I wore a Seer for years on the job, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen one on a civilian head in the wild. Presumably, the relatively high price and low general market penetration keep it off the reviewers radar.
Good info. Thank you
Half helmets are good for bicycles riders. I mean, safety aside, when was the last time you (say a dude), thought, "wow, that guy really looks cool in that half helmet cruising down the street?" Well... maybe, but not me. Protect your melon. Insurance rates will drop!
I love all chrome helmets.
i have a purple helmet in the morning
Sena!
Sean Reeves rides naked! Live life to the fullest!
Fact: There are more motorcycle crashes among crotch rocket riders with full face helmets then riders with a half shell helmet riding a cruiser motorcycle. I see it all the time working with the highway patrol.
Lightning Brigade Primary reason: Sport bike riders ride more aggressively in almost all occasions. No surprise there. But as a cruiser rider myself, I'd STILL prefer a full face over a brain bucket any day. But I'm no "Gear Nazi" so I don't judge anyone for what they wear on a ride.
+Kawffey the inKredible I wish you only safe travel on your motorcycle.
Lightning Brigade Same to you my friend
Lightning Brigade Same to you my friend
By "working with" do you mean you mop the floors of fetch coffee? Hehehe 😋😜
I had a crash the other week, mercedes knocked me off, i have scratches on the chin bar....would've been my face
I cannot wear a helmet that covers everything I can't breathe in that in the fall or the spring let alone in the summertime it's too damn hot
That is just is an excuse for you to justify not wearing a full face helmet. I live in north Texas. Summer temps frequently hit 100F. Then I ride Out West where it gets REALLY hot.
Great H.
Eye protection is required by law in Kentucky.
Makes sense.
I don’t enjoy riding a motorcycle with my face baking in a helmet in 95 degrees. If I’m not going to enjoy myself then there is no point in riding. 100 people a day die in car accidents. 18 people a day die on motorcycles. Yes I know there are way more cars on the road than motorcycles. But the point is the road is deadly no matter what you’re in or on. I’m way more likely to die on a bike that’s for sure..but I’m also way more cautious. I’ll take my chances in return for the enjoyment.
Feel like a half face is saying, I'm just doing this for the law. Which I could also understand as everyone is making comprimises when they ride.